Will silksong ruin the video games industry because of how cheap it is for it's quality? Now the GAMERS will feel ripped off at the new $80 and $70 pricetags and other indies can't compete
>>720277504goodnot my problem
>>720277504doesnt matter what price it is Im still going to pirate
>nerfing games le good>nerfing game prices le badMay the next indie game lower the prices further.
>>72027750499% of games are utter shit.
>>720277734Is there a particular boss they are all upset about?
>>720277796>>720277504Fucking this. People think they can take 2 years putting together some shitty game and make billions on greenlight. Get a real fucking job,
I doubt it'll change anything long term, same way Hollow Knight being 15 bucks didn't "force" other indies to be cheap. The biggest impact is a bunch of devs delayed their release, which is an ephemeral concern.
>>720277734sister splinter is easythe big moth isn't even that ard
>>720277504Made by one person? Weren't cheery two guys when they made hollow knight?Price it at 50% of hollow knights price
>>720277504Just make a good game of fuck off
>>720277631fpbp
>>720277504I was already feeling ripped off at $70 games so I never bought themlol lmao at snake eater remake, more like cock eater
>>720277504How about reducing team sizes? Both HK games were made by tiny team.
why are these devs are such fuckin pussy ass jobbers
>>720277504I will always find precarious situation that the industry is in baffling. I mean I get it but it’s just so fucking dumb. There is so much money being thrown around for shit that is 100% not involved in making a good game that the one (1) fucking indie came setting the price low is enough to throw retards into a tizzy since it reminds people that you don’t actually have to spend shitloads on a which in turn makes all those needlessly expensive games look even more retarded. I mean for fuck said the term “AAAAA game” has been thrown around.
>>720277504>HK cost 15 bucks and now on sales it's mostly 6 bucks>I know! I will make my own metroidvania 20 bucks!!!
>>720278109This is literally all there is to it. First step is to remove every advertisement, public relations, community management, HR branch. Second step is to remove all women.
>>720277504>I originally thought* would be fairly price at 20 USDThink again.You got complacent with trash being shoveled out and slowly upping the price to make people accustomed at paying more for garbage.>Waaaah I can't afford to give it away for freeNooone's going to buy it anyway, just put it up for 10 dollars, if it's worth anything people will buy it.Indie devs shouldn't be in a situation where they say "I can't afford", you are not a business, not a company, you should have been making the game in your spare time, not putting all your hopes and dreams into the game making you rich overnight.
>>720277504>no one posted it yethttps://store.steampowered.com/app/2463220/Lone_Fungus_Melody_of_Spores/>20bux for this
>>720277504I've played Lone Fungus, it was decent but I don't think I'd bother with a sequel even if it's $10Anyway Silksong is an exception, 99% of games will keep giving less while costing more and unless one wants to wait 7 years for the next TC game he'll still buy games that are not as fairly priced.If this was ever an issue people would just play the thousands of old games that you can get for pennies or even for free rather than spending $100 on some new AAA slop
>>720278769>pixelshit in Q4 2025>previous entry wasnt fully fledged pixel>literally downgraded>devs : WHY CANT WE PRICE IT HIGHER THAN 20 BUCKS
>>720278882>If this was ever an issue people would just play the thousands of old games that you can get for freeHey, that's me!
>>720277504Why would this affect normalfaggots' perception in any capacity? A 5 hour game is priced the same as a several hundred hour game in many cases, yet nobody makes a fuss about it.
>>720278769>He priced this above this
>>720277504>b-b-but I made it by myselfI thought market set the price, not the developer’s sob story
>>720278769This looks great, way better than I expected
>>720279013this is even more embarrassing to compare
>>720278938the amount of games in those megapacks made for emulators is rather silly, I'm pretty sure I've thrown over a thousand in my chinkheld and I've only played a dozen or so of them.But even without going into emulation and piracy, last spring I bought Metro Exodus with all dlc for $5, and the game's not even that old. Doesn't mean that I wouldn't spend more on a smaller game if I felt like it.The dev in OP could just release his game for $20 but with a 25% release discount or something and nobody would bat an eye
>>720278769>Lone Chungus
>>720278769>>720278934WTF, he did literally downgrade. Why the fuck would he do that?
>>720279612I hate pixel "art"Draw normal, faggots
>>720279612despite i pirated and finished the first game, the upcoming sequel is such a letdown after they showed 1 screenshot of the progress and thought wtf were these devs thinking
>>720277504A lot of indies struggle with the fact that the market is flooded with cheap games, and that a lot of those are at least as good or better than the games they put out themselves. I know an indie dev who wanted to price his 2D sokoban clone at 8 bucks, and I had to talk him out of it because I argued nobody would buy it at that price when he's virtually unknown and you can get Portal 2 for less. "Yeah but we spent a lot of time and money on it!" That doesn't matter, nobody will look at your game and say "oh I normally wouldn't buy it for that much, but they put in so much money and effort". A lot of indies put in money and effort.This whole Silksong debacle baffles me. Fifteen to twenty bucks is what I'd charge for a game as big and good looking as Hollow Knight. Why did people assume they'd charge much more? How many people did he think would buy a small Metroidvania at 20 bucks by some unknown dev?
>>720277823its just nerfing Moorwing and Sister Splinter
>>720277504>the mario-tier bing bang wahoo sidescrolling isn't priced at 1.9 thousand dollars>how will i buy my ferrari now?>this is predatory capitalism's fault>i can't afford to give it away for free>20$ is "free"How rich is this guy?
I genuinely can't believe there are people complaining things are too cheap.
>>720284183If I was a AAA corporate suit and saw that the hip new thing on the market was 1/4th the price of the game I funded wageslaves to work on, I’d be pissed too.
>>720277504>Now the GAMERS will feel ripped off at the new $80 and $70 pricetags and other indies can't competeBecause it IS a rip off. I've never bought a game at $70, let alone $80, because no game is worth that price.
>>720277504No, it didn't ruin anything. It was a much-needed reality check for these retards thinking their retro pixel platformers are worth $20 when that's the upper limit of what an exceptional indie game should cost.
>>720277504I'm more and more convinced that these price war threads are made by shills who are aimed at destroying the idea of actually paying for a videogame.>Why would you PAY for a videogame, just stick to our eternal service game nightmare for years on end. It's FREE to start playing after all!!!!!!
>>720285078No, people hate live service games and literally nobody thinks they are good value even if they are F2P or very cheap. Silksong is only praised for being cheap because it also happens to be a fully feature complete game without any in-game purchases.
>>720285264If that were true, live service games wouldn't make money hand over fist
>>720277504Zortch was also developed by one dude. Released at 5$ and made his money back after a short while. Maybe price games what they're actually worth? No, 20$ is for a high quality game, and anything beyond 30$ is "I ain't buying this shit" tier.
>>720285051>$20 when that's the upper limit of what an exceptional indie game should cost.>>720285451>20$ is for a high quality game,How the fuck did retards get thjis detached from reality? Imagine unironically complaining about a $20 game? Do you play nothing but the most retarded normie garbage ever? Newsflash, Silksong didn't get to price itself at $20 because it's "good", it got to price itself at $20 because it has a really wide appeal and a lot of hype behind it. Games can price themselves low when lots of people are going to buy them which has fuck all to do with actual quality.
>>720278769Looks fine, dev shouldn't be such a whiner though
>>720285812The average I pay for a game is 5 dollars. If you want me to pay more than 5 dollars for your game then you must prove to me that it is a good game. Simple as.
>>720285897Then enjoy games dying, you colossal fucking retard.>hehehehe but games are already bad!Yes, because of retards like you.
>>720278938https://www.gog.com/en/game/betrayerhttps://www.gog.com/en/games?priceRange=0,0&order=asc:releaseDate&hideDLCs=true
>>720285923>Then enjoy games dyingMy backlog is going to last me until old age. If no games was ever developed past this moment I genuenly wouldn't care. Go work for mcdonalds if you are this incompetent, indieslopper.
>>720280381What should we do about all the excess lonely gamedevs who make too many games? Is it time for Chudjak to rule the earth and get rid of billions?
>>720285997If you're so disengaged, you can fuck off instead of complaining that games aren't $5>indieslopperAnd there it is. At the end of the day, you're a retarded fucking shill that will pay for AAA garbage poured down your throat. The problem is those damn INDIES being... $30 sometimes! What an outrageous price!
all this shit for a Platformer????? i dont get it
>>720277734casuals should be brought out to the streets and shot leave my vidya alone go watch movies or read booksif i ever make a game i will listen to difficulty complains and make it even harder in upcoming patchescasual normgroidfaggots have ruined vidya
>>720285923We're on 4chan. I agree though that devs shouldn't be afraid to charge $20 for a well-crafted game even if the quality isn't entirely up to par with Silksong. The whining is annoying though.
>>720286057I will buy games that have their prices reduced 80-95% off. I don't fucking care if one autist or 100 autists worked on it.Entertainment isn't worth more than a few dozen bucks a month. Simple as.
>>720286057>you're a retarded fucking shill that will pay for AAA garbage poured down your throatHis posts indicate the opposite. I don't know why you're throwing a school-shooter tantrum because the other poster thinks cheap games should be priced as such.If no one wants to buy what they perceive as overpriced, then you'll just have to deal with it instead of being grumpy online.
>>720286278Nah, I'm going to call self-righteous faggots the faggots they are.
>>720285812>Imagine unironically complaining about a $20 game?I'm not complaining about $20, just saying it's the upper limit.>Do you play nothing but the most retarded normie garbage ever?If you mean AAA slop that costs $70+ then obviously no. If I'm too stingy to spend more than 20 bucks for indies, what makes you think I'm willing to spend even more for that trash?
the same thing happens all the time in the manufacturing industryif other companies do not improve their quality to compete with a superior, cheaper product, then they die
>>720278769I gotta admit aside from the aspect ratio and obvious indiegame style main character it does look like an actual SNES game
>>720287443videogame quality is subjective its not the same as products you can buy at a store like a bike or a new fridgeits a work of art and thus everybody is gonna see something different in ittheres probably people who wouldnt mind paying 50+ bucks for silksong just as there are people who think the game is worthless
>>720277504Because price tags over $30 or $40 (for an AAA game) are a ripoff. Always were. Just like you have two, identical T-Shirts, one made by some fledgling brand and the other by, say, Adidas. There will be at least a $100 price difference not because of quality (the same materials, made in the same Vietnamese sweatshop), but because of brand name. The massive part of price of items like iPhones is only caused by "brand tax". The more famous a brand is, the higher the price, regardless of actual quality. I have a chink phone, brand TCL, from Hong Kong if I remember correctly and it's fucking better, cheaper and has the same, if not better, specs than Sony Experia in the same specs range. Plus, you can take off the back of the phone yourself (it's not glued in), so if you want to, say, change the battery, you can do it yourself for MUCH, MUCH cheaper. I have a big fucking battery and it holds no problem for almost an entire day. For an example, today, I've used it a lot, different apps and so on, and I'm down from 98% only to 70% after 6 hours (without battery saver use).And, due to the system being basically minimally modified Android 12, it allows me a huge degree of control through Developer Options, including sideloading apps no problem, or running ReVanced with microG and installing every app I want with modifications such as no ads and playing in the background for YouTube or YT Music.
>>720278769>>720279612>a metroidvania but with a mushroom cartoon characterGood god I fucking hate these faggots with their bullshit ass indie games.
>>720277504Just make games worth paying for lmaoLike just make good games instead of sub 2 hour walking sims
Journalists making this a big deal is unironically much worse for the indie devs than Team Cherry pricing it $20As it is now they are just putting a lot of focus on it to a point it wouldn't reach for most people otherwise, and it opens it up for people to meme about it and demanding devs to price their games low as well just for memes
