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Hollow Knight: Silksong just released to an enormous player base, showcasing how important indie releases have become for the industry. Amid all the positivity, people have complained about the game being too difficult, and there’s a reason for it.

According to a survey, most of Hollow Knight: Silksong players are also soulslike fans, so the difficulty is something they prefer rather than take it as a negative. This makes the difficulty quite understandable.

Alinea Analytics has revealed that over half of Hollow Knight: Silksong players also play soulslike games. These include Elden Ring, Dark Souls, and Bloodborne, with the first one being the most popular among the fans.

This explains why the difficulty isn’t that big of a problem for most people. Also, this isn’t something Team Cherry has done for the sequel; the original title wasn’t easy either. Nonetheless, the Silksong is a lot more brutal.
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>can't even mention Nine Sols or you get blacklisted by the CCP
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>late gen soulsfags
their standards are extremely low
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>>720282418
>hollowknight-soulslike.jpg.webm.jpg.webm.png
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>>720282418
ah yes
my favorite video game
blasphemo
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>>720282418
There's a surprising overlap between Silksong and Hollow Knight
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>>720282618
You jest, but it's impressive that 22% of Silksong players possibly didn't play the original
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>>720282418
"soulslike" tag on steam is literally meaningless
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>>720282705
I think it's quite accurate to a very defined style of gameplay
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>>720282569
sounds like some kind of cat food brand
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>>720282418
>Soulslike is most liked by soulslike fans
No shit???
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>>720282418
Dark Souls 3 and Bloodborne were easy, and most Elden Ring players just abused summons or cheesy builds. Silksong doesn't have those crutches.
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>>720282510
been pondering a little kot lately
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>>720282827
You can get reinforced health before the Citadel?
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>>720286669
You don't have to beat last judge to get to the citadel. I fought last judge after completing a bunch of act 2.
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>>720282418
>Blasphemo
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>>720282827
The gameplay style is Zelda 2, not souls like
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>>720286835
Oh ok I'm still in Act 1, trying to do absolutely everything I can before proceeding. Guess I'm getting ahead of myself.
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>>720282418
so they are brainless drones, thanks for clearing that up
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>>720283247
Dark Souls 1 is nowhere on the list
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>>720282418
>Shitsong players have played the biggest exponent of normie slop in recent years
NO WAY DUDE!?!?!???!?!?!?!?
PEOPLE THAT HAS LITERALLY ONLY BOUGHT A GAME BECAUSE ITS POPULAR HAS BOUGHT ANOTHER GAME ONLY BECAUSE ITS POPULAR????!?!?!??!?
NOOOOO??!??!?!?
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>>720282418
I like Metroid, Megaman X/Zero + autistically retrying arenas and bosses in Kirby post-game, but not Souls.
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>>720287189
No Khazan or LoP too
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>>720282418
Is Ori really as good as they say or is it another reddit game?
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>>720287618
Do you like the idea of free flowing platforming?
If so, then yes
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>>720282418
Based Ori chads not consuming brainrot souls slop.
Ori - the game for true action platformer and metroidvaina fans.

>blaphemo
Don't know what that is, must be a parody of blaphemous literally the most sluggish, jank and dogshit metroidvania ever made.
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>>720282418
>studies say
kek
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>>720282519
Elden Ring bosses mog everything before it apart from Sekiro and some DS3 bosses lol

DS1/DeS etc. aged horribly

I'm 35 btw in case youre going to retort with "zoomer take", and Ive been playing these games since DeS
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>>720286835
>I fought last judge after completing a bunch of act 2
ahem

YOU

DID NOT

BEAT HIM
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>>720282827
I've been stuck on this boss for like 3 hours
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>>720288170
You're misreading the data. This is percentage of silksong players that have played those games, not the other way around.
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>blasphemo
Damn it. Is this the prequel to Blasphemous back when the Penitent One was called Penito?
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>>720282418
>source: alinea analytics steam estimates
where do these estimates come from
how did they get them, do they have special access or something?
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>>720288170
>blaphemous literally the most sluggish, jank and dogshit metroidvania ever made.
Bro, I am beggin ya to play some MVs beyound the stuff that just gets talked about on /V/. You do not know what jank is until you have tried to 100% bullshit like Chronicles of the Wolf.
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>>720282418
How similar are these games to Dead Cells?
I really like Dead Cells. Would I enjoy these hollow knight games too? Or are they not very similar, but just happen to have cross over fans?
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>>720289154
Zero similarity in gameplay
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>>720282827
The fuck is that bunnyhopping tech?
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>>720289495
tapping the sprint button.
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steam stats dont mean anything. its like doing a study on reddit
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>>720289145
does it have slow pathetic clunk movement like blasphemous? that wall jump is the worst thing I've seen in any game.
I played it on release, just moving from place to place feels like watching paint dry. the design was so bad there are spike pits but the camera wont move down to see them.
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>>720288254
elden ring is only "good" at having more cosmetics since everything else is bland and lacking
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>>720282418
I have 100% completed Hollow Knight without ever having played a Soulslike before. If anything the Metroidvania exporation aspect and the Silksong hype drew me in to play it in the first place.
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>>720282418
>most X players also played these other games with massive playerbases
and they actually pay these analytics goobers to come up with these slides
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>no nine sols
theyre retards?
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>>720289590
From the moment you open the game it is an unpleasant experience. The controls handle like dogshit, your character moves at a crawl. Hitboxes are a suggestion. It is legit terrible, and makes Blasphemous look like a polished smooth high speed action platformer.
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>>720282418
>people playing popular games
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>>720288254
>bosses
Opinion discarded.
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>>720289821
fotm fans but yeah
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>>720282418
How the fuck are ori games soulshit???
They are actually well designed good and platformer focused.
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>>720282418
>According to a survey
Sample size?
Where was the survey advertised?
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>>720282418
No shit sherlock.
“Soulslike” is basically a subset of the “metroidvania” genre which itself is just a subset of the “action-adventure” genre. Of course it’s going to have a massive overlap.
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>>720282827
I really really hate the Flash art style. It's so cheap and hollow like it has no weight or texture to it.
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>>720289835
Woah this game has abysmal messy pixel art, sprite stretching and mixels.
You saw these screens and still paid money for it?
see I would never get that far.
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>>720290052
All the good soulslikes are not on the list though. Looks like their purchase are based on popularity.
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>>720290183
It is what it is.
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>>720290056
People have no standards and will play actual visual diarrhea.
Noita having 10000s of sales and overwhelmingly positive reviews taught me that.

They didn't even shade most of the characters.
if they weren't inconsistent, lazily animated with so few frames and had actual depth the game wouldn't look so fucking cheap.
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>>720290461
Your edit looks like fucking trash, m9
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>>720290507
the games looks fucking trash m8
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>>720290537
your face looks like trash, m7
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>>720289893
Bosses is the most important part of souls games
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>>720290461
>lazily animated with so few frames
This is the biggest problem. Imagine having choppy animation in an action game with hard boss fights where you need to tell and memorize their patterns.
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>>720290461
This edit looks really bad anon

Pls dont voice ur opinions on aesthetics ever again
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>>720290776
That makes ER the worst souls.
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>>720290836
>>720290507
mentally ill
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>>720282827
does the fire charm reduce the fire damage from this dude?
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>>720291384
Yes
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>>720291384
Yes. But keep in mind the fire charm isn't a flat reduction, it has a recharge time after you eat a hit.
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>>720290461
See I actually prefer the left. I don't think the shading adds anything, I think it just looks cheap and shitty either way. Flash animation is for novelty porn games from 2004.
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>>720282827
Deserved
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>>720290796
you are just shit at the game, dude.
everything is well telegraphed in ss.
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>>720291606
It doesn't add anything because the whole game is dynamically lit.
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>>720282418
>the difficulty isn’t that big of a problem
Difficulty are never the problem. Even if I suck, I will learn
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darksois getting filtered by actual difficulty will always be hilarious
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>>720291105
Can you stop rolling like a retard, and wait for the boss to actually launch an attack, and then roll?
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>>720290461
What's your beef with noita?
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>>720291874
this is how 99% of Souls players play every Souls game. Roll, roll, roll... And it's only gotten worse with newer games because the stamina is more forgiving, so you can spam roll without a care in the world.
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>>720291874
Does that change the hitbox of attack from the boss?
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>>720290461
Visual clarity > fidelity
Especially in a game such as this
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>>720291874
It's a game that has immunity frames. The target audience are retards.
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>>720294009
Mostly because it's abusable. Roll spam won't happen if From make it like monhun (long recovery).
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>>720282534
What did OP mean by this?
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>>720282418
You know there are silksong player who also played sex with hitler
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I'm currently on ant queen memory boss and its all getting so tiresome. I hate arenas
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>>720290461
>MARIO IF HE REAL
This is bait right?



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