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I got stuck under ground
>>720296549disgusting BUG-vania
Is it better or worse than Hollow Knight?
>>720296756Better for sure
He just left the boss arena after I stunned him and I've been waiting over a minute, I think this shit is glitched
So Act 3 just doubles the health of all the enemies in the game, to what end
What were they thinking??Why do they ads have so much hp? Why 2 ads?? Why can the boss do the ground destruction attack twice in a row? Why does he pick his fly by height off screen??
>>720295374Despite her experience she's still pretty naive. that doctor could just have killed her
>>720296756More content but some of it is annoying while some is great. It's harder overall which also might affect your judgement
Fuck this nigger tier fight and whoever designed it, 2 fucking hours it took.
What is the secret of The Mist?
>>720296549Nameless Town ascent is nowhere nearly as bad as White Palace, just finished that and I don't know what that anon who said it worse and took him an hour are on about. The near pixel perfect SMB platforming in White Palace is infuriating, Nameless Town's worst part is that the floating creatures aren't remotely in sync. Which doesn't make it more difficult, it's just like annoying, on a personal level.
>>720296549The secret deer boss is actually filtering me more than most other bosses. impossible to dodge screen full of projectiles
>>720296802There's a glitch where bosses can throw you out of bounds, it always happened to me on left walls. They would hit me and send me through the wall. It happened with an Act 3 boss and the true final boss. They can still hit you there so you're not softlocked but I thought it was funny
>>720296803Sex
>>720296841>>720296756Moment to moment 100% better.However, I do like the story in HK more.
Make a real thread that isn‘t pedobait
>>720296756MUCH better movementMUCH largerMUCH more technical fightingMUCH greater move varietyMore difficultMore stingy with rewardsMore mean-spirited at times (this is different from difficulty, I think of it as unnecessarily painful, like how the grapple can destroy generators on Mt Fay)
I haven't been back to Styx since first visiting him because I figured he'd stack up multiple Silkeaters for me to collect over time, but nope, still just one. Kinda weak if that's all there is to this guy.
What the fuck am i meant to do with the adds on sister splinter?>jump up and they fly higher out of reach>attack ahead and they counter with a spinI've died 20 times on this boss and every single time its because one of these cunts touched me, not attacked me, but their model moved past me and contact damage killed meI tried traps but now im out of shards and need to go farm them like its blood vials in bloodborne. The boss itself is fine -bar elbow contact damage which seems the games biggest flaw overall- but these adds are a fucking nightmare.Like ive died 20 times and not once because of the fucking boss in the fight.
>>720296756Lower lows, better mids, and more highs (would only say 1 high was higher)
Compledted act 2/ I' done for the week
>>720296756Better, Hollow knight feels very basic in comparison.
>>720296549>Lace is consistently described as a childEating good cunny bros
So are the end-of-act2 optional bosses supposed to be HK tier easy?>Automaton>Chef>Brothers behind Deep Cock's simple key doorEven Bilewater boss is only "hard" due to the runback and gauntlet prior, not because of itself. Only one left for me is Slab boss, which I assume is the First Sinner.
Can you still get 100% if you didnt buy everything before act 3?
WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS HIGH HALLS MOB RUSH ROOMHOW IS THIS FAIR
>>720296878It's not that bad but it's annoying having to farm energy with the snakes.>>720296879Yeah poor gimmick fight, not fun.
>>720296902>the bench in Bilewaterthat was really mean.....
>>720296756significantly worse start
>>720296919Silk Storm. Seriously, that is the "fuck off mobs" move.
>>720296957There are two ways to nerf that room btw.
>>720296919silkstorm
>>720296802Happened to me too. Just save&quit and try again.
>>720296919Thread storm nigga
>>720296802This happened to me twice it's a super glitchy fight. You have to exit out and try again.>>720296919The sting traps should be mopping them up. Don't forget to use the standard silk move so you can clear adds + vines with a single attack. Sister Splinter is not a hard boss, so calm down and pick off adds.
>>720296756Much better on every single level from movement mechanics, pacing, NPC dialogue to map creativity. Their excuse for this taking so long was that they were having so much fun with it - and frankly you can tell.But people are going to be getting filtered and crying about it for the next month I'm afraid until everyone collects gets better. It's pretty punishing.
>>720296919Nuke them with skills
>>720296549Can't wait for Hollow Knight: Lace editionShe better have the ohohoho laugh integrated into the gameplay
Meh!Ooh wah!
>>720296992I'm guessing the tall bug and the old man bug can help you?
How do I gitgud with Last Judge's runback?
>>720296860Play needolin to have butterflies guide you
>>720296981probably yeah, none of the early game is memorable as the wizard bug in city of stars
>>720296893Yeah to be honest I'm not actually sure what happened here>>720296831In fact how can she trust lace when she knows she's batshit insane?
My 2 favourite boss fights so far were trobbio and the cog dancers.Notice how both arent very hard, just fun to play
>>720296919Use your silk attacks. I'm pretty sure the silk spear will one shot them. If you have Threadstorm that'll be even easier since you don't need to aim. She's optional so you can just come back later, though I didn't think she was very difficult.
>>720296947I found the chef pretty hard but I went there as soon as I got double jump, I imagine it's easier with the maggot charm, the other two were easy
>>720297084Just run by the drill flies, don't wait for them to spawn, Hornet is faster. That should be the only part that's annoying you.
WHICH NIGGER DESIGN THIS FAGGOT HOLY FUCKING SHIT KILL YOURSELF
>>720297084First flying bug: you can get past it with a fast sprint + immediate jump. If you take damage here just leave and retry until you can get it every time. The rest is easy, remember to take the shortcut up on the left after the first bronze guy.It gets easier, but it IS worse than the boss itself.
>>720297080Yup. The map bug can practically solo it
>find out for the chef quest i have to run the meat all the way back to the citadel from bell townyea fuck this i'm done for today
>>720297084>Run straight past the mosquito, no hesitation>Jump to the mini platform, then left big, then right big>Climb up the upward tunnel at the left (instead of going to the right, it's longer with enemies)>Finish normally
Silksong's only problems at least for me is that they doled out too many of the upgrades/tools/rewards via shopkeepers and quests.Also, we never got a proper City if Tears or CHALLENGE THE SUN moment. All the cutscenes and Red Memory is fucking kino though.
Silksong is more similar to soulslikes than metroidvanias tbqh
>>720297178Thanks, now I have to find them
>>720296756To me so far it seems less charming and more punishing. Polished though.
>>720297153It's literally just the room you first encounter them in. I promise you meet more in 2 later traprooms and they aren't bad. It's just the lack of room to stand. Don't feel bad about spending tools to kill the 2 in that first room. If you open the shortcut above them, you can avoid them on every runback.
>>720296976Kill off the small annoying ones first, since they are the most erratic.The bigger ones are more predictable and you can easily kite them will you poke them to rebuild silk.For example, the cogfly guy can't attack below him, and the drapey slasher one will follow you up to the top corners, so you can go under them when you do.Save your tools for the end
>>720297153I'm surprised everyone complains about Bilewater while deeper Deep Rocks was absolute ass. I guess there's no maggots eating you...
>>720296549Am I crazy? I feel like there should be something up here.
>>720296756Worse. Hollow knight was self-contained and tight, Silksong is just bloat on bloat on bloat with no coherent line.
>>720297226It's a metroidvania with good bosses
>>720297113Cog Dancers was a way too easy, not that I'm asking for double heart contact damage add-spam RNG movement memes but I wish they were out of sync more or the final phase should've been a step up, not a Sif moment.Both Trobbio fights are fantastic and that's totally understandable as a favourite.
>>720296858Took me two tries, and the try where I died I didn't even make it to the boss so it's not even his fault
>>720297205>CHALLENGE THE SUNman this was a fantastic climax 100%but i think the intro to act 3 was enough hype
>>720297247For >>720296957
>>720297246I AM IN THAT TRAP ROOM
>KarmelitaI’m getting filtered. First tried the crust king but this ant bitch is destroying me.
>>720297258I tried everything but didn't find anything, apparently there's a Steel Soul only boss in that area so that might be related
Still the best boss.
>act 3>hear singing near songclave>investigate>its a gauntlet>kill them>recieve nothing?
Has any anon figured out how to fight Shakra in act 3 yet?
I've been so focused in boss fights, I barely remember any song.Please post good songs.
>>720297205I think they were hoping that the Citadel would somehow be their big City of Tears moment but they clearly didn't understand why people liked the City of TearsAlso the City of Tears theme mogs the music for the Citadel's areas.
>>720296756some things are better, others are worse, I'd say it's a better game but only slightlyhollow knight is much more cohesive however
>>720297113I didn't like Trobbio at his projectiles glitched me into the ceiling several times. I felt he had a lot of health too for a boss with only 1 phase, and I have both needle upgrades.
>>720297335The block she pulls up constantly is pretty cruel when her health pool is that high.
>>720297335Just litter the floor with poisoned caltrops in the final phase
>>720296549Uh oh
>>720297338>a Steel Soul only bossBut why?
cbt room
>>720296957Poison floor tacks and bombs or the ground saw blades. Hang from the wall as high as possible. Double jump also helps.
how in the world do I start the quest chain(?) leading to act 3?>songclave>bone bottom>druid guy in moss area>caretaker near where you start>bellhart>architect in citadel>plasmium guy from wormways>some hermit on the west of greymoornone of those have anything to say. the only new (maybe) thing I noticed is that couriers have some queen egg thing? idk what that is.just about the only npcs I haven't talked with are fleas, the bug from far fields that makes your cloak and her sister from blasted steps and the deep docks merchantI got some shrieking root child in my inventory, the soul from grool and beat up lace already
>>720296860>>720297085I hate how I tried this and it didn't work. So I checked on the internet and it just confirmed I was doing the right thing.I was so mad I had figured out the puzzle and it just didn't work for some reason (probably too far away).I was disappointed the wraiths were killable. I kinda wish they were unkillable. That made them horrifying to me until I finally killed one and realised they were killable.
>>720297380I never got the tacks if that’s what you mean, where are they?
>>720297386This will hopefully be me in two more years :3
>>720297345There's a few random gauntlet rooms in Act 3. That one was funny.
>>720297074considering I haven't heard a single SHAW! or GID GUD. I doubt it
>>720296825that's the worst boss in the game by a mile, don't bother and come back later fully upgraded, it's not doable early even with the fire resist charm since the ads just pile up and fly away
>>720296756Much better, I feel like HK peaked at City of Tears and then never really got close to the same heights again, Silksong felt a lot more consistent around the board to me
>>720297197https://www.nexusmods.com/hollowknightsilksong/mods/53That's what I did. I even tried one run normally, but 70% of the pathing is boring hold directional button, so I said fuck it. Also potentially getting meme'd by flying enemies went into the equation.
>It gets easier, but it IS worse than the boss itselfI'm getting tilted by the runback so much that I'm barely getting to learn the boss' attack patterns. Nothing in this game so far has gotten me stuck and frustrated as this part.
>>720296803well... this is me
>>720297356Don't think you can, her slot is missing from my journal when I compared it with someone who had fought her in act 2>>720297391Dunno, it didn't look very impressive but there's an NPC too apparently, assuming the whole thing isn't a bunch of bullshit, I sure as shit aren't going to attempt to find it myself
i'm doing steel soul now
>>720296885sex
>>720297356Can you even do it in act 3? I don't think you can, she's not counted in the total amount in the journal, same for the other duel (the dude on the mount).The dude in act 3 has been corrupted and it's dead, so can't duel his normal form (which is apparently a different journal entry according to another anon).Not sure if both of them counts for the hunter journal though.
>>720297113Neither are phantom or judge though. Also kinda fun.
>>720297442woah you go big guy
>>720297362>I think they were hoping that the Citadel would somehow be their big City of Tears moment but they clearly didn't understand why people liked the City of TearsI think they do it's just a way harder sell in Silksong because the kingdom is alive and Pharloom is a naturally way more overwhelmingly oppressive place.Actually now that you mention it. I DID get a City of Tears moment in the game but in reverse. When I got to the rent a bench in Underworks and sat there I was fucking floored.
>>720296825>double jumptrivializes it>harpoonuse it against the charge>wandereradds are free silk, just jump on themall in all it's fairly easy as long as you have at least one of the three
>>720297436Sinner's road sidequest, topright of the big room
>>720297414The thing that triggered it for me was getting enough fleas to move the caravan to the ducts. (Also, make sure you’ve explored the ducts.)
>>720297414get all fleas
>>720297153>I'll crump for you boy!
>>720297498Indeed
>>720297410It is a baby room compared to something else later. (Don't read next)Can't wait for people to rage at the Coral Tower triple gauntlet LMAO. The boss was really weak though thankfully.
>>720297596finally artists drawing her on model?? no more sloppa needed?
>>720296756It's messy slop they didn't even care to playtest (I am serious, according to credits, it was played only by 6 people aside from team cherry and 4 of them as speedrun trannies). That's why they didn't want to send keys to journalists. They know it cannot survive critique. I'd wait 1 more year maybe they will test and balance it after release. God, I hate modern gaming so much.
>>720297567>>720297572>the fucking fleas are how you progress main story
>>720297343that asshole was kinohe filtered me hard tho, never managed to beat him
>>720297563Are you talking about the two fags who charged me for the spines to get the parasite out?
>>720296825Harpoon spam the adds and bait big man into the lava to get space.It's not good, any boss that's just summons and contact damage isn't going to be, but the harpoon was made to kill flying fuckers.
>>720296549Honestly, can you stupid fucks save some surprises for people and not use them as OP images? Thank you.
>>720297656yikes.Yeah that's shithouse.
>>720297478>I'm getting tilted by the runback so much that I'm barely getting to learn the boss' attack patterns. Nothing in this game so far has gotten me stuck and frustrated as this part.You unironically need to get better at pathing and platforming, because you can skip every fight.But because you are a shitter that won't figure it out if you're dying regularly, this is the route you should takehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mKO6ANK5Z5c
>>720297656It’s a number of things I think, you probably need to have completed a certain number of quests too. And you don’t need to get ALL the fleas, just enough for them to make their final move.
>>720297618I was initially a bit mad at the endless gauntlets but it makes sense that you have to fight this dudes entire army first to kill him
>>720297665They were free for me
>>720297085Is this hinted in any way?
>>720297656You don't need to get every one. Don't know the exact number, but I was missing at least 2 when I entered Act 3. There's an NPC who can give you the locations of them if you need
>>720297701Lace is the final boss. You return to the abyss.
>>720297618I fucking hate Coral Tower and I feel like shitter because I died 3 times to the boss just because I was keep walking into him...
>>720297656It doesn't make any sense, easily Silksong's weakest story point.Not that Hornet had to prove that she cared to be given the alternate route, that makes sense in itself, but what happens immediately afterwards with the snails, it shouldn't have mattered.
>>720297490>>720297516WTF shitty ass game
I think Silksong has a stupid amount of extremely memorable moments. Not as somber or melancholic as HK but shit that sticks with you. Here let me remember my own playthrough:>using the simple key to wormways and reach greymoor from there>sitting at haunted bellhart and loading up to see Hornet strung up>getting into Act 2 via the Mist and the kino Phantom fight>the god damn prison escape sequence>First Sinner being hidden in some random ceiling>the funeral at Bone Bottom and the tyrant>EVERYTHING ABOUT ACT 3>Bilewater >getting cursed>the Witch CrestAnd so so so much more.I am legitimately surprised at how surprising TC made this game. Like every few hours or so it'll hit me with some genuinely memorable from the smallest interaction to an entire new area I never even knew existed.
Where's the key? Only door I can't open, haven't fought the pale monarch yet but been everywhere i can possibly go
>>720297178How do you get the old guy to help? I only saw him clear mobs in halls.
>>720297490>>720297516Thank you anon. It’s so sad I can’t fight her without making a new save
>>720297728Yeah, it makes sense, though it wouldn't surprise me for them to nerf the encounter by having checkpoints between floors, considering how bad most people are at playing the game.
>>720297819There's no key, Act 3 thing, just ignore it.
Your favourite bosses? For me it's:>Karmelita>Trobbio>Phantom>Widow/First Sinner >Lace>Second SentinelI am only mad I missed Shakra because I would probably love her, I couldn't fight her in act 3
With how stingy this game is with currency u find it kinda bullshit you get nothing for beating any locked room battles.
>>720297819Story related, don't worry about it
>for use in craftingwhere do I use this thing?
>>720297656>>720297785From what im understanding you basically need to restore and establish every relevant town in the game (including fleatopia) so that the residents can survive the act 3 transition
>>720297823I think you need to duel him first in the vaults
Was lace intentionally made to be a harder boss fight than her mother? I killed grandma first try surprised she was so easy
>>720297638I dunno, most still draws boring big ass/boobs.
>>720296549Found this dead end in the underworks, right next to the drill tool. Is there something I'm missing here, or is it just a dead end?
>>720297658Nightmare king grimm is my favourite boss of any game of all time.It's the best designed boss I've ever played.When i first tried him, after 3 times I said to myself I am NEVER doing to be able to beat this boss. I know what you are thinking, that now im gonna say, dark souls style, but then after many tries I killed him. Thats not it.The difference, and what makes NKG absolute God tier, is on the exact try I killed him, I can now kill him and take 0 damage. I could kill even if he had double the hp. That's what makes it brilliant, once you learn it you can do it forever easily. No other boss was like that to me.
>>720297807OH AND HOW CAN I FORGET THE MISTER MUSHROOM IS WAY MORE KINO THIS TIME AROUND LIKE A LAST MINUTE KINO TWIST TC THROWS AT YOU BEFORE YOU LEAVE
>>720297880wait nevermind I can't read
>>720297880you break it and get shell shards that you use to craft tools you have equipped
>>720297827Each playthrough have backup saves, you can check if you're not too far in act 3 if you can't get it and move it in another save slot.But only if you really want to fight her, it wouldn't change much to your journal never complete.
>>720297884I understand why mechanically, but narratively - the snails do not give two fucks about the Pharloom Pilgrims. They very expressly and actively do not care.
>>720297892Shame. I even beat the vaults first too. Anyways I solo'd that fight. Was rough.
>>720297935Come from the other side later
>>720297935It's a hint that there's something there but you can't do anything from that side
>>720297914that sucks
The pinstress told me about a crystal cave in mt fay, anyone know where that is? I did find a mini crystal area with a flea in it but i can't break anything there to go further
>>720297861Top 3 for me are probably>Karmelita>Clover Dancers>Widow/First Sinner
>>720297984I agree but I guess the point here is that Hornet somewhat cares. That's why she bothered going down to the abyss to begin with instead of just fucking off Pharloom.
>>720297771I died once on this guy for the same reason. He really is weak so I get how shitty you felt, contact damage on big bosses is really infuriating me too, but it is what it is...
void dlc confirmed
>>720297861Wait you can actually miss the 100% in this game?
>Steel Soul has exclusive content
>>720298053It's in the middle. You have to super jump from an ice lake to get there
>>720298014>>720298013>does not open from this sideSometimes I forget I'm playing a Dark Souls game.
>>720296756Hollow Knight has a better story, better music, more signficant feeling power increases, the charm system's cool synergies and because the map is smaller, the exploration tends to be more rewarding in terms of what you'll get.Silksong has better moment to moment combat and platforming (albeit, Path of Pain remains uncontested in terms of raw challenge), more polish, better map design and better NPCs.
>>720298053It's somewhere around the middle in a big room with water, I think the one on the left if I remember correctly, you'll need a special Act 3 ability though
>cant beat ants>cant beat crows>cant beat sister splinteri think im just done. I'm not good enough and have nowhere else to go.
where is mushroom man?
>>720298113>>720298143>super jumpyeah then I can't reach it yet lmao, gonna come back when I have that
>>720297343NKG was fucking trash, too many attacks where he just teleports off-screen and you just have to dodge, so fucking boring, half of the time you didn't even need to move because the pillars were spawning or the flames were dropping around you. PV was much better.
>>720298179Flea town
>>720298152sister splinter is being nerfed soon
what are some places I should go back to now that I have silk soar? I already got the shaman crest
>2 beautiful locations>Coral Tower>Verdania>can't come back to thoseWhy the fuck
>>720297618Don't wanna go full WERKS ON MAH MACHINE faggot, but I found all the arena fights decently fun and had only like 5 deaths in them over the course of the game. Maybe my unga bunga playstyle favors weaker enemies, because I sucked against defensive bosses like Seth and Pinstress.
>>720298093Game completion is weird, it's not EVERYTHING EVERYTHING. I think it's mostly>quests>tools>upgradesNot sure though. I don't know if filling the journal (not killing each enemy 20 times) is even needed. If you miss Shakra's fight like me, she isn't counted in the total amount of log entries in the journal. Besides her, there is a duel with the knight on the beetle that you can miss, too.
>>720298152your next destination should be nexusmodsor just give up i suppose
1 year to make the game6 years for playtesters to beat it
>>720297483I still remember
>>720297807>wormways to greymoorWtf? How?
>>720298097you can just quit to main menu when you are low on health like literally everyone who got the steel soul achievements in HK did
>>720298135The charm system is super disappointing in HKAfter fucking around more in Silksong I can genuinely say that the tool and crest system completely mog it
>>720297116>She's optionalShe's 100% required, unless the wall climb is technically optional or there's another way to get to it I'm not aware of
>>720298249>I don't know if filling the journal (not killing each enemy 20 times) is even needed.You get a memento but mementos don't count in the 100%
>>720296756Worse if you're a shitter. Better if you're a functioning human being with pattern recognition skills. If you get filtered by Beastfly then you're the former.
>>720298152Sounds like you need to learn how to play action games. You watch for telegraphs - audio cues and animation startups, learn to avoid them, and then look for safe attack opportunities. First attempt should be spent just learning what attacks look like. This isn't a problem in most metroidvanias, you just facetank and shit damage.
>>720297976It’s too late for me unfortunately. I entered act 3 and got so excited that I progressed a good amount (and the painful parts) of act 3 already. Thank you for the suggestion anon
>>720297724While I agree, some runs are just not hard at all and are just boring.
>>720298301most tools are boring as hellcrests have clear winners and clear beast crestHK wasn't some surpassing system but idk, i'm just not feeling SK system either
>>720296756I am sure I am biased because platforming and movement is pretty much my favourite thing about videogames in general. And I also love tight, speedy combat that uses said movement. So I genuinely enjoyed all the combat arenas too. So I'd claim the game is much better than Hollow Knight personally. Though I still love Hollow Knight even as it is. I just much prefer Silksong, it's as if the game was made for me. I also really love the game's world design and how progression works. I like how Act1 is somewhat linear, while Act2 opens up and becomes much more like Hollow Knight. Even simple bosses are made fun thanks to the core movement of the game.
>>720298152Craws are easy man, just fucking spam the spike trap when the heavy part rolls inYou need the silk storm to easily defeat Sister Splinter, but honestly if I had to do it without I could. I'm not good at the game either, this is advice from someone who doesn't play these types of games typically, so I know you can do this.
How do I get up to the cogwork core for the last melody? I can't use the elevator that leads up there, and I don't see any other path.
>Thought the wraiths in Mist were unkillable>Finished the area without killing anyAm I just completely fucked out of getting 100% bestiary (and the item) now?
>>720298152>cant beat antsThey are pretty scary.Talking real life ants.
>>720296756Worse. You have mobility from the start (diagonal attack) so there is already not much challenge then you get normal dash and the game becomes easy, you get wanderer's crest and it becomes even easier then you get the wings and you can play it with your eyes closed.
Where’s the duel with Garamond that lets him help you in the forum?
how many of these upgrades are there?
>>720296549Used goods
So this is where the fun ends.
>>720298415The door to the right of hornet's face
>>720298415bring a good pogo crest and a lot of patience
>>720298005It's in a secret area, I only found it because I was hunting for fleas and putting off the gauntlet
>>720298295You‘re almost permanently on low health in silksong though. You have 2,5 hearts and there‘s very few recovery frames when you get hit so you can die insanely quick
>>720298061It is annoying but what I hated about entire arena and boss is that you do this entire annoying gauntlet just to get a boss that does nothing but jump around and throw corals at you>>720297861I am still collecting hearts in act 3 but so far>Trobbio>First Sinner>Phantom>Lace>Clover/Cog Dancers>Great Conchflies/Savage Great Conchfly
>>720298472That's it for the Vesticrest unfortunately, would have liked another blue but it'd probably be too strong
Does anyone know how to let him out?
>>720296756Movement is significantly betterMost other things are worseIt's maybe one point worse than HK
>>720298483We don't know if those were female so it might not count
>>720298379I can name like four builds in HK>nail build>spell build>meme minion build>and meme tank buildAnything else beyond that are largely superfluous.The existence of shit like Architect Crest and Shaman Crest alone adds si much potential to the shit you can do.Even supposed meme crests like Beast turn into a powerhouse with the right combos.
>>720298360Yeah, a good example for me was with Lace. I didn't think to use the bench in cogwheel and went from the shrine. I'd kill some of the big guys when I was bored, but would typically skip them. It was just boring to do.Then I thought about the bench literally under Lace's room.
>>720298385VREN
>>720298514Oh my god I thought I was near the end. Holy fuck how long is this game?
>>720298553Fast travel station
>>720298553secret entrance in the bellway for that area
>>720298540just rush for the fractured mask
>"Oh boohoo this game is too hard, wahwahwahwahwahwahwah!"When will casuals stop whining.
>>720297724Damn you're right, I have been a shitter. I need to learn how to float better
how do I unfuck the controls?My two dedicated tool rebinds work great (needolin now on dpad up, map on dpad down).But I want to make RB only ever use skills. It's fucking annoying wanting to use sharpdart for dodges in fights but accidentally using a tool instead because the joystick is slightly up. Is there a config to make it reset joystick direction at time of press or something.
>>720298549I see, she still says the same thing as before so I was wondering if there were more, there's a lot of bugged out dialogue in this section of the game though
I feel like I should be able to get in there. This is where the ball bug falls from.
>>720298598For me it was reverse Judge (from the east) because it's literally just nothing but a saw and couple dudes. It made no sense to keep the run there when I'd already reached act 2 through Phantom (the best boss).
>>720298549>>720298717How do you fucking trigger thoseDo you NEED to use the memory lockets
Is the implication here that Hollow Knight took place a long while agoEveryone keeps calling Hornet old but this wasnt something hinted at in the original game
>>720298717She still has more upgrades just not for that thing
>>720298672And on the final long float, I found it more consistent to float stationary and let myself go lower first, before passing by the drillnigger's spawn, and then float underneath it, to reduce the risk of taking damage when it spawns.
>>720296549WHERE IS HIS BOSS?
>>720297658his fight is like a dance, never try to facetank and mash away. You need to take turns attacking.
>>720298756we just don't know
>>720298691>up + R1 for projectileThis should be illegal. It is KILLING me when I'm on walls and shit. I'm not using architect just for R1 only projectiles. That's fucking stupid.
>>720298751I'm seeing conflicting reports but all I can say is for me it was using Memory lockets, it might also be tied to unlocking Crests in general but it wasn't until I used all my lockets that I got the last one
>>720298756Hornet is older than Elderbug...
I heard there are 2 more oils after the taste quest. I don't need to know specifics but I'd like to know the areas they're in if someone would say. I am guessing they are in memory vaults and that optional(?) memorium zone?
>>720298751I genuinely have no clue, I barely used any memory lockets and only used reaper the entire game pretty much, I think mine triggered from getting the witch crest if I had to guess but idk what the condition ismaybe total crest in general or something
Would you?
>>720298795he saves you and lace in the true ending sequence
>>720298756>this wasnt something hinted at in the original gameYes it was, you retard. Hallownest is basically in ruins and has been for a long time. Hornet was around in its prime. She talks about the past as if it is centuries ago
>>720297258That feels like 90% of the hidden spots in the game. Its that or 5 beads.
>>720298910but the flowers and the flower lady are still there in HK
>>720298756Ze'mer, one of her father's Knights, is from the place where they grew.It's likely Hornet remembers those from her encounters with Ze'mer in her childhood.Also Hornet is old as fuck and she was already old during Hollow Knight anyway.
I'm not supposed to know this puzzle now right?I think I got one by luck
>>720298795best you'll get is a steel soul exclusive void boss
I wonder if there is any anon here that actually reached act 2 through the second way in, aka THE MIST.I've been watching the early speedruns route, it's so fucking kino.>Skipping glide>Alternate route to the citadel>The mist is actually fucking up a lot of the speedrunners, since there are 8 possible maps, but the traps are randomized>using taunts to setup flying enemies for gamebreaking pogos>Finishing any% with 5 hearts, almost nothing in two hoursNow I understand why the final boss is really weak, it's to compensate for speedrunners arriving at it with jack shit gear/upgrades.
i just realized this spent so long in development that sinners road and bilewater are less hacky than i thought because they were technically made before a lot of other garbage poison swamps
>>720298756>Everyone keeps calling Hornet old but this wasnt something hinted at in the original gameNo she was already old by Hollow Knight. Hornet, no matter how soon she was born. Was born before Hallownest succumbed. And that was ages ago already in Hollow Knight. And it's her minimum age. She should be like the second or third oldest character of Hollow Knight, not counting dead people.
how do i act 3
>>720298891Absolutely.
Wanted to save videos of my boss fights but Steam recording seems to flip a coin to decide if it wants to work for a session
>>720296549You guys dont' really want to fuck bugs do you
where do i install crawbell thanks
>>720298795Why would he fight Hornet he clearly cares about her in the ending.
>>720298959I just matched the lines and it worked
>>720298959It's pretty intuitive if you have a brain. It's literally just connecting lines from top to bottom. You are just dumb
>>720298891Yes but how
>>720298959it's just trial and error, and finding the linked shapes for each column, there's no solution elsewhere
I got a bad ending or something right? No way the game just ends after weaver queen?
Bell eater is pure bullshit.
>>720299032For the FLEX.
>>720298968I legit thought it was the right way to go and I'd just unlocked the Needolin so the puzzle was easy to figure out
>>720298756>Everyone keeps calling Hornet old but this wasnt something hinted at in the original gameShe was ancient. She was the reason Hecah the Beast cooperated with the King's dream door plan, which happened so long ago in Hollow Knight 1 that City had time to both prosper and then fall to such ruin that nobody knows a thing about it. This isn't hidden 2deep4you lore, it's outright said, just that nobody has said "damn bitch, you're OLD".Although bug aging is weird because Quirrel is even older than Hornet in HK1, much older, and boy that motherfucker can zip around. And he's not a weaver-void-god nether entity, he's just some dude.
>>720299015Yeah, ha-ha sure we don't..
>>720298959You have to make them all connect nicely. Easiest way I found is to try and match the bottom two for each tower then work my way up
>>720299070not as bullshit as american wrestling
i'm at the high halls fight and i think i might just give up.i don't know what to do, it takes 10 minutes of concentration to get to the last stage and then i die in 10 seconds because i have no idea how to approach this fight.
>>720298891I dont get that last scene was Lace laughing or crying?Crying surely? Because her mom died?
>>720299048NTA but I wouldn't say it's really that intuitive as you don't really have a fixed beginning and end.Obviously people starts tinkering with the poles, try things like what you suggested, but in the end it doesn't feel like a puzzle AT ALL, but more like an "official" bruteforce. I tried making the lines, and I was even surprised it really worked, I was expecting something more.
>>720297076Yah!I MISS ADIDAS HEGALE SHAW bring my niggas back
>>720298514That actually wasn't so bad. But what the fuck is this? Is it actually just trial and error to get everything to match up?
>>720299070>Fuck huge health pool>Tiny hurtbox on his head>Touch damage double damage>Projectile spamAnother one of those parts
>>720299032I don't think the void does. Just her brother. And fortunately her brother has quite the influence over the void.
>>720299069Do more sidequests
>>720299140IT'S REAL YOU STUPID NIGGRE
>>720299092Damn anon, that's pretty SICK of you.
>>720299171Stop baiting for heals and start spamming silkspear every chance you get. Save tools for final phase spam to clear one of the big dudes. Otherwise there's 2 ways to nerf that room pretty heavily.
>>720298795DLC
>Steel Faction DLC>Lifeblood DLC>Godhome/Boss Rush DLC>Phantom of the Opera DLC>Knight Duel DLCWHAT ARE WE HOPING FOR BUGBROS?
>>720299069Do all the shitty side questsMake sure the fleas are fully moved
>>720299271i don't have any metal anymore. the fight does not drop any. i can't use tools
>>720299187Laughing. Probably because she is now free. Losing her mother might be bitter sweet, but remember that she drew the blade on her mother first. A rebellious and maybe hasty act sure, but Lace was feeling stifled by Pharloom's haunting and the curse of her being. And her mother was at the core of it all.
>>720299015Unironic homosexual if you don't want to stick your dick in this>fat ass>obviously human-coded face under the darkness>fetish queen
>>720299214Just use your eyes nigga
>>720299317Boss rush dlc is all I need
>>720299317>>Steel Faction DLCThis is guaranteed because Sharpe is a backer boss apparently
Anons is this the highest needle upgrade? The weaponsmith seemed to elude to there being yet more oil, but I haven't seen any more than two around the Citadel.
so why was hornet dying to void a few times at the start and then couple more times at the end? was a part of hollow knight inside her and it came out at the end to save them? idk why the void was sperging out if hk was in control of it the whole time
Do I remember wrong or is Silksong darker than Hollow Knight? By darker I mean illumination. Feels like in many areas you can barely see what's around you.
>>720298968>>720299092Wait have I missed out on The Mist by entering Act 2 via Last Judge? I reached Mist before I reached Last Judge but I backed out at first because it was spooky
>>720299069do the sidequests or download the save of someone else who did if you're on pc.
>>720299171Pogo them, they have terrible and obviously telegraphed air attacks plus half the time they use their floor attacks fruitlessly
>>720299317Shakra DLCthat will take 7 years to finishtakes place in a new kingdomwith no mention of Silksongs plot
>>720299358You are a degenerate coomer with a rotten brain, you are worse than a homosexual.
>volt ore>It's just for log>Magnet ore>It's just for log>Coal>It's just for logThat's omega gay
>>720299216Legitimately how the fuck do you kill it?I am almost out of shards.
>>720298751Total slots so getting new crests and using memory lockets both count
>>720299317Lesbian cutscene DLC. People kept bringing it up and can't find it. must not be in the game yet
>>720299396Last one is fleas
>>720296756Much better. Movement and combat alone make it better. Then there's the map which is more varied, larger and more challenging.SS has way more enemy variety and cooler boss fights.HK is 7.5/10 , SS is 9.5/10t. 112% on Hk and 100% on SS
>>720299345You're in the rosary dropping center of the game, do a quick loop to get like 600 rosaries and then just buy 12 shard bundles.
>>720299358>Mother Silk>Radiance>White LadyWHY DID THEY MAKE ALL THE FEMALE HIGHER BEINGS SO FUCKING SEXY AAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>720299409No, you didn't miss anything, it's just another way into act 2. You can still do it later.
>>720299221>>720299326>>720299414Seemingly irrelevant sidequests mattering so much for the ending makes sense from gameplay perspective however they could've at least tried it make more sense like in hollow knight
>>720299454fucking fuck
>>720299398She was just hurt
>>720299441Someone said the explosion spell did good damage to him, otherwise just focus on the ass and learn how he throws the explosive shit so you can dodge it, I think it always comes out the same pattern
>>720299464>Then there's the map which is more varied, larger and more challenging.This is it for meThe maps have well defined themes and gimmicks that actually work to make them memorable
>>720298983HK, Ghost, White Lady, Eternal Emilitia, Herrah, Monomon, Lurien, Soul Master, Quirrel, Grimm, Moth Seer and Ze'mer.They all are or are plausibly older than Hornet and alive at the beginning of Hollow Knight.Granted, Herrah, Monomon and Lurien are asleep.
>>720299441I spammed storm when I could and hoped that I didn't get fucked by the red head spamming its projectiles. Took forever
>>720299426Gay ass bitch nigga detected
>>720299203>you don't really have a fixed beginning and endonly one set of lines actually matches so you can just brute force one end and go from there
>>720299475Bro you're literally horny for a plant and a fucking moth
>>720296549>have no issues with the boss damage is 2 mask meme>fight the pickled muckmaggot boss>his fat ass does 4 FUCKING DAMAGE and puts the maggot effect on you so you can't heal anymoreWhat the actual fuck went into this boss design.
Is there any reason to do the deliveries other than beads?
>>720299554You are not normal and you will never be normal.
The fucking runback from getting the melody is killing me more than actually getting up here.
>>720297197>Make it with barely any time left after taking two hits on the way up>sprint into the room full speed, forget to go UP to the level the banquet table is on>bounce off the door with the lever>bounce impact kills the last sliver of health on the rasherI was so dejected by that, I was in the damn room already and still blew it.
>>720299579Of course only one set works, or the "puzzle" would be fucked.It's just not a puzzle, it's the equivalent of kids coloring books once you know it's that.
>>720299624>expecting anyone to be normal on 4chan
>>720296756betterunfortunately a lot of people are spoiling themselves because they don't like the genre and exploring is tedium to them
>>720298968>I wonder if there is any anon here that actually reached act 2 through the second way in, aka THE MIST.I did.It was so good.Must have been painful to go through Judge and Phantom is a phenomenal fight. My hands hurt right now (it's been 2 days) because of it but it felt so worth it. That fight was fun. And you get the most OP parry move at the end of it, which I refuse to use because it's cheating.
>>720299693Normalfag website.
>>720297113Tormented Trobbio is fun too but holy shit he turns the arena into a seizure-inducing bullet hell
This thing is fuckin baller
>>720299661You can just bounce on the cogs on the left side without even bothering to go to the right side of the climb. Getting up is a fairly speedy process.
>>720299614No. They are essentially skyrim's radiant quests. except for 3
>>720299583And he is based for that
>played Reaper until the Citadel>got kidnapped which forced me to change to Hunter>now I like it more than Reaper, the attacks come out much faster, the upwards aerial slash is not so thin and hard to aim, the pogo repositions you so that you can pogo again or get to safety whereas Reaper's just makes you fall onto the enemy and take damageIs Hunter just the best overall?
>spend hours upon hours combing through every inch of the map trying to find shit for wishes>or just look them up knowing i never beat the gamedecisions, decisions....
I'm stuck. Act 2, got the first song, but didn't get any upgrades, don't know how to get to either of the other 2 as they require a double jump or some move to activate the rings and I've went over the whole fucking map, even Blighttown, beaten both ways into the citadel and I have no clue where to go. All sidequests complete, no hint anywhere.It's not new, because I remember being as stuck in HK while missing a single jump in the Queens Gardens. Can someone hint me on where to go?
Are we ready to admit that the quest system fucking blows yet
>>720299683For me it was>Jumped down a long pit>Noticed that took a huge chunk off the time>Panic sprinted to the room and bumped again>Made it with a tiny pixel of time remainingIf I had failed it I would have installed the mod. I still might for the mountain climb one
Hollow Knight's story was extremely well done.It all ties together into a neat little bow.From your origins to the Pale King to THK to the Abyss and all the way to the Radiance which makes Dream No More such a satisfying ending.Silksong feels more centered around Hornet's character development as she discovers Pharloom. Less holistic and focuses more on how much you like her development as a character.
>>720299794Hunter has literally 0 flaws once you get used to the pogo, for general play it's the best. Architect has a ton of bullshit you can do though, its peaks are the best in the game imo
>>720299807Underworks, honestly it looks like you already went the right way from what I remember so you must have doubled back
>>720299795I'm going to avoid walkthroughs 1st playthrough.It kinda ruined my 1st playthrough of HK.
>>720299807Continue from Whiteward to the underworks, you get an ability there.
>>720298959it's just trial and error, I also thought I missed something, that's just how it is
Idk how to feel about this game. Just finished the true ending.I'd say the game was both an upgrade and downgrade from Hollow Knight.Some things could have easily been fixed through any sort of actual playtesting of the early game.Lots of really bad bossesLots of really dumb dude in room fightsLots of poor exploration rewardsAmazing art style/directionTools are boring and uninspiredBadge system should have been an expansion of HK1's Badge system.Side quests were smart addition, allowed for easy tracking.
>>720299918i completed my first playthrough but i'm missing a lot of stuff looking at the pictures in this thread
>>720299812I didn't really mind it, I never found myself with more than 3-4 quests at a time since they were easy enough to complete
>>720299859yeah thissilksongs thruline about motherhood is interesting tho
>>720299859HK had a story?Nothing much was said.At least things are detailed in SS.
how do I get progress for the mushroom quest? I think I've found a location
>>720299812What's wrong with it? Nice to have some shit spelled out to you in a game like this and there's still enough hidden stuff too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw4pHkHqaVcI kneel
Here's my full opinion on itHk + DLC = Silksong > Base HKIf Silksong gets some great DLC then its GOATED
>Occasionally run into Garmound and Zaza while roaming the castle beating up random mobs.how cute
>>720299683Same for me, got it next try tho.
>>720299812Been saying it since the start. Who wants to farm enemies for arbitrary quest items in a metroidvania? Most of the quests coming from a board rather than individual NPCs makes the whole "Hornet cares about Pharloom" feel flat as fuck too
>>720300083>Ongbal agrees with meI'm vindicated
>>720296885I look like this
>>720299984I don‘t mind the ones you get from talking to npcs and them being tracked but going up to a quest board and getting them that way is just boring
>>720300016Look for small mushrooms then play the needolin near them
>>720300016Do what you should always do when you don't know what to do, play some music
I can’t beat Karmelita. I just can’t.
Can I get a pointer on how to access the area with the silver marker? It looks like there is an area below the elevator shaft, but I can't figure a way into Whiteward with the elevator raised. Accessing it from The Cauldron doesn't seem possible, there is a one-way door here and besides that, even with double jump I can't go back up this pit.I presume there must be some other way into Whiteward.
>>720299918>>720299795The find the NPC quests are really bullshit. They're usually not even in the area the quest says they are in.Like the courier is not in Shellwood.His missing brother is not in Greymoor.It's bullshit, just look it up.
>>720299859feels like they watered down what they had by leaning harder into the elder gods controlling spheres of influence slop
So I finally got to last judge, and that's what people have been complaining about? I mean I didn't beat them my first try, but it really was not a problem at all.
>>720299794Hunter's evolved form makes it generally the best, but Reaper is definitely solid for boss fightsArchitect gets to do some funny shit and IIRC Wanderer might be the highest DPS with Flea Brew and its crits, plus the basic HK pogo is nice for some platforming.
>>720299967For me it's Act 3's fault (but it has tons of good stuff though). Too much projectile spam unironically, fuck the curves especially.Too many Act 3 bosses are just "spam this projectile" or "have one or multiple gauntlet without checkpoints before me" (and the boss himself is usually shitty).Side quests were good, but for some reason they didn't use it for everything, like Shakra's and Garmond's duels.I don't remember ANY music, but maybe I was too focused in the fights.
>>720300173What? how did those filter you? Just use the tracking mechanic, you find a pile of bullshit in the area they tell you to look, you interact with it, and you get trails to follow to where they actually are.
>>720300173You do know you can interact with the environment to find a trail you can follow right
>>720300160Call the elevator while it's down and jump down, go left or right, wait for it to go up and jump down.
>>720300190Last Judge is fine, it's the runback people dislike.
>>720296823to make sure you feel no sense of progression whatsoeverthe player must be miserable at all times
>>720300206>Hunter's evolved formwut?
>>720299908>>720299936All right, thanks, I dunno how I missed anything there as most of the unexplored areas I have are stuff thats behind bars, but maybe I ran past something in the darkness. I've ran it a few times to save Sherma, girl what are you doing there.
>>720299859>Silksong feels more centered around Hornet's character development as she discovers Pharloom. Less holistic and focuses more on how much you like her development as a character.I did enjoy all the Hornet stuff. But I also really liked learning about Pharloom. It's a really interesting place that was and has been influenced by very interesting forces and people. It turns out. And they've been up to really interesting and odd stuff. Learning about all that stuff was really exquisite. It's the stuff I liked the most about Hollow Knight and its Hallownest too, but there is a lot more to uncover about Pharloom than what you can find about Hallownest in Hollow Knight.
>>720299610Just cheatengine it, everyone else does. The fight is incredibly bullshit and glitchy so the boss just randomly despawns on top of that.
>>720300226>I don't remember ANY musicYeah this sadly for sure. I honestly can't recall a single song. Nothing really stood out, even the final boss theme was super standard.
>>720300226>there's an act 3don't tell me i have to complete every sidequest to access it
>>720299859I liked Hornet’s development. But I still feel there’s some loose ends when it comes to the Pale King.
Besides the two NPC fights, are there other missable content before Act 3?
>>720300105>Hk + DLCGodhome was kinda shit though and the only DLC of any worth was Grimm. The reason being that SS was going to be the main DLC obviously. kek>it's like thrice the size of HK already just to compensate for Hornet's speedKinda strange thought that it's meant to be the DLC to HK when it's 3 times the size.Then again, SotE was massive for an expansion that many felt was just a sequel to Elden Ring (and superior in my opinion).
>caring about plot in a bug gamelollmao even
It seems like there's more to this area other than the item, especially with the bench nearby. Any tips or is this a red herring?
>>720297861Lost LaceTormented TrobbioGreen PrinceCogwork DancersFirst SinnerPinstress
>>720300149>>720300150>Past the cradle's peak, last test of fitnessI'm pretty sure I'm here but don't see any mushroomsI've already got the memento before making the post
>>720296823I hate it, completely shits on all sense of progression. Who cares if the basic mooks aren't threatening in the endgame? They don't matter anymore
>>720299171do shakras quest and then ask her for help during the high halls gauntlet
>>720300272I hate overthinking shit. It's why I'm so dogass at puzzle games.
>>720300335Ok I won't tell youYou also have to find all the fleas
>>720299812I don't mind it. Gives a little more to do when exploring upgrade-gated rooms with extra reward.
>>720296549It looks like she has a little carVroom vroom
>>720298152The only thing that tripped me up with Sister Splinter was her ads also doing 2 damage.
>>720300372Act 3.
>>720300372act 3
>>720300372You'll return there later in act 3
>>720300335>don't tell me i have to complete every sidequest to access it
>>720300173>The find the NPC quests are really bullshit.I kinda agree, but then I compare it to HK and I feel like that was even worse. So maybe a step in the right direction?>All the grubs to collect just for 1 charmThat was cancer. At least you don't have to collect as much and it's not all over the map most of the time.
>>720300273Nta but my only problem with runback was that place with statue and flying enemy
>>720299171Anons have given good advice with getting Shakra to help, but for me what helped me was going to sleep and trying the next day. Felt much better about the fight and nailed it after 3 tries then. Look after yourself, anon
>>720296549Does the venom from the pollip pouch do a good amount of damage? Is it worth using over just slapping something better on it?
>>720300335If you're lazy and on PC then download a save file at the start of Act 3, I'm sure there's some on nexusmods.
>>720296825anon you have thread storm right therethose adds are fucked
>>720300335You don’t have to complete all the quests to access it and you don’t need all the fleas. The exact parameters are a little unclear. You definitely need enough fleas for the caravan to move to the final location though.
This seems ass, is it worth using
wtf how do I beat last boss she's zooming too hard
>>720300393He's in the cave just before the peak
>>720300272I tried that, but I seemed to get sucked in to the lift when i hit the lever. Maybe I just didnt try hard enough, cos I gave up after I saw that happening
Why does it feel like the bosses just get progressively easier as the game goes on, instead of being consistent?
>>720300549Tools are for scrubs
>>720299771Where do I get it?
>>720300335you need to get enough fleas to where they move the caravan to the top right of bilewater. you also need to clear every quest except for the courier quests
>>720300330Exactly, HK had a lot of iconic songs, like Mantis Lords or Sealed Vessel. But in this game, I don't know why I can't remember a single of them, I'm not even trying to troll or say they are bad. And I'm one step behind the true ending, so I'm pretty sure I have seen and heard almost everything.
>>720300549that's the strongest crest but you need to grind shards
How has everyone beat this game in 5 days? There are people who beat it 2-3 days ago. Are you just playing it non-fucking-stop 13 hours a day?
I just got to last judge and i'm 18h in, who the fuck cleared this game in 14h??????? also fuck the runback as peopel have saidb efore
>>720300507Poison tacks shred most ground enemies
The only problem quests in Silksong are the material gathering ones and those are only like I don't know a handful. And they're easy set it and forget it quests.The Huntress is kino though because it makes you experiment with your tools if you havent before.Eh. I thought I would hate them more but they were pretty fun. And technically they're just an expansion of the shit you already did in HK.
>>720300549it's fucking awesomedrill baby drill
>>720297758Lace controlled the same butterflies with music when you first saw her. Also, much like the Dream Nail, you should learn to use the Needolin the second you feel suspicious about anything.
>>720300575Nigga I said to call the elevator not enter it and go down/up with it.
>can’t duckNOOOOOOOOO’ HOW THE FUCK DO I T-BAG??
>>720300301Not a girl
Is it just me or does the second lace fight straight up feel unfair? She does her moves at mach speed and half of the time after she does anything she instantly goes into parry mode, meaning if you actually try to attack her you get punished.
>>720300575call it from the top, not from inside, you dummy
>>720300549I also dislike this thing because it proves they could have had projectiles on R1 instead of up + R1 which is complete ASS.
I wish they'd nerf how many fucking shards tools use
>>720300652use taunt
>>720300652right stick up and down is a worthy replacement.
>>720300603Lace and Choral Chambers is already stuck in my head. Same for Bonebottom and Bellhart.They also made fantastic use of the old trailer music for parts of the game. Really hits.
>>720300696Taunt is boring...
Best boss fight AND theme in the game.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPZU_xt1XNc
>>720296549do I need to finish hollow knight or can I just skip to silk song?
>>720300690Why are shards even a thing ay? Kinda annoying to have to farm them between boss attempts.
>>720300174From as early as the reveal trailer, wasn't it a pretty safe assumption that pharloom had a godlike being or something similarly mysterious? The question was always, what influence granted pharloom's bugs sentience and evolution? We already learned in hollow knight that bugs outside of the pale king's influence were simple and unevolved like our real life bugs. And this was similarly shown in silksong where we got to see bugs on the surface outside of grandmother silk's influence. If anything I found the origin of the weavers to be fascinating and more interesting than I had initially assumed from just having played hollow knight.
>>720300670You can dodge her parry attacks and then punish her but you need to do the right move cause she varies them
>>720300615It took me 25 hours to reach credits but that was without act 3
>>720300584Idk. I just got to the twin cog dancers and the fight was insanely easy. The flying mobs are more of an obstacle than that boss.
>>720300615neet life is where its at most fun ive had in a decade racing to beat this game ahead of everyone still stuck on bosses like judge lmao
>>720300287Go talk to Eva, if you've used enough Memory Lockets she'll upgrade your Hunter crest where your Needle gets a damage buff when you fill a meter from hitting enemies enough without getting hit yourself.And if you haven't talked to Eva, go back to Moss Grotto.
>>720300741Are there different taunts? Going to try this.
I can tell once I beat this game I will never touch it again
>>720300507Venom is very good yeah, used for nearly the entire game
>>720300619the runback is the only reason the last judge is a memorable fight, you'd beat it in a minute if there was a bench nearby
>>720300619speed runs are down to under an hour and a half
>>720300615Bro, this is /v/, it would be weird if people here didn't beat the game in 3 4 days. Don't apply your wagie thoughts to others, here.
How do I get a heart in far fields?
>>720300590Look high up in a cold place once you've found the broken Weaber toolJump down to the right after getting the double jump in Mt Fey and use the crafting bench inside the cave
>>720300820nah, it's just looking up and down rapidly, so it just looks like "uh,-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh, yeah"
>>720300603there’s nothing in Hollow Knight that compares to choral chambers. But there’s also nothing in silksong that compares to white palace. I like both soundtracks for different reasons
>>720300132>lie
>>720296549is she supposed to be a fucking spider? why are there other spider like bugs that look nothing like her. I am so confused.
I'm getting filtered by last boss wtf is this
>>720300549allows you to overdose which is useful for at least 2 platforming sections
These two games are the most BLOATMAXX'D pieces of shit ever. 40 hours, really? For a genre of games that should never ever be more than 15?
>>720300549>cool moveset>weighed down by having the worst crest imaginable
>>720300897She's a mixed race abomination
>>720299610Just install a mod to instant kill it and be done with it. The boss is bugged and no one is fighting it legitimately.
>>720300823This game for me will be that meme>Want to replay the game>That partAnd "That part" being 70% of the game.
>>720300897She's half Spider.
>Enlightened under the Pale King>Hiveminded by the Radiance>In Servitude to the Silk Mother>Endless Breeding with the White Lady>Emptiness with the Void>Drugaddled by the Life BloodCHOOSEYOURHIGHERPOWERRIGHTNOW
>so many seemingly impossible to reach ledges without a double jump of some kind, even with the needle dashAm I missing something?
>>720300650>>720300673
>>720300956her mother doesn't look anything like a spider either
>>720297205yeah the zones need to feel more meaningful.every zone in HK is dripping with meaning. Each little touch contributes to the story.I never felt that in SS so far, and it was just the bland late Darksouls crap of "zone that looks neat; anyway let's get to the rollslop." and that's it.
>>720300897She's a spider/wyrm hybrid what with her dad being Pale King
>>7202968582 hours (100 minutes of runback and 20 minutes of fighting)
>>720300957I did
>>720300947>worst crestYou install all the red buff tools on it broFlint, brew, and lifeblood
>>720301000Yeah was that a retcon?
>>720300976White Lady seems the best choice.
>>720300151Cheese her with poisoned tacks. You can cheese lace like that too
>>720300980there is a double jump alter in the game. there is also a wall climb move
>>720300980This might shock you, but it is a double jump
>>720300778Padding to make the game longer
>>720300947>spam tools>win>worst
>>720300976PALE CHADS KEEP WINNING IM AFRAID
>>720300980yes, the double jump
People have mentioned a switch that affects citadel enemy spawning in these threads. Where is it?
>>720297418Yeah I was avoiding them out of fear until I realized they have one singular attack thats really easy to dodge, and then farmed them for silk.
>>720300670She always parries after doing the jump attack after a slight delay after landing. You can time hits around it.
>>720300823Same unless they add ng+. I have no intention of playing without upgrades again
why did team cherry put this ledge here in sands of karak above the throne room where you get the conch tool, am i missing something or is this just a meme spot
>>720300925Which last boss? If it's who I think it is you just have to power through it lol.
>>720301131High Halls I think, in a room where you can push a cart assuming you're talking about despawning enemies, there's one in the Vaults that spawns some
>>720300961"that part" is the entire game for me. I'm really enjoying my playthrough and nothing pisses me off to where I want to stop playing, but I have no motivation to go through everything again and collect everything again. I'm going to finish act 3 and just move on
>>720300649Playing the needle around random shit actually does something?
>>720296756HK: low 8SS: Strong 8
>>720300891>>720300741I do this while my friend is watching me stream. I also do a dance when I unlock a new shortcut or area.
>>720301174Lost Lace
>>720300670Jump around, play the distance. Hornet is so strong by that point, it's not even fair her or the next boss.
>>720301168Homie I'm standing there right now in my game, can you see me?Also, Act 3, probably
>>720300823I can see myself replaying it more than hollow knight soleh because of the sprint. But that's not saying much.
>>720301186thanks
Is there actually content you can miss forever if you don't do it before Act 3
>>720300767Guys hear me out
>No boss replay mod yetI have no hopes for silksong's godmaster DLC in at least 2 years
>>720301142That's straight up wrong. I literally just fought her and several times after jumping she didn't parry.
>>720301103Not even, it pads what - 5-10 seconds per boss run? It's not even worth the padding and must be an incomplete mechanic in my opinion like they had no idea what to do with it. It's so petty though that it doesn't really bother me though. I can just ignore it.
>>720300976Pale King is the only one who isn't a total fucking disaster by himself.Silksong really recontextualized him, it's so clear he's a fucking anomaly because he's not a massive cunt.Like you could never imagine Grandma Silk letting the Mantis Tribe, Deepnest and the Hive remain independant.
>>720296756like others have said, it's great in some ways but honestly, imo, it's mostly just bad and full of paddingdoes any of this bullshit REALLY add to gameplay, am I REALLY learning anything from running past these enemies and doing shit ass platforming, again? No. I don't really think so, but i just say these games aren't for me, they all play exactly the fucking same, the only thing silksong is missing is a shit ass stamina bar>it's another parrybait game where you play retarded footsies because every boss wants to punch your dick whenever more than 1 second passes, just enough for like 2 swings before going back to the retarded footsiesi'm so sick and tired of "learning" boss fights that do literally nothing for me, i don't feel proud beating a fucking jigsaw puzzle, these games are just as boring
>>720300226>I don't remember ANY music, but maybe I was too focused in the fights.It's in no way the only track I remember. But I don't get how people can say this when Lace's theme is such a strong track. It's similar Hornet's old theme, but with some stronger pacing to it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6is6K8jbho&t=1157sIn before Hornet's theme also being forgettable or something. I disagree though. Love that track. And this too.
https://x.com/MD_thetest/status/1965455623736508822?s=19
>>720301052Yeah finally managed it too. Absolute cocksucker of a boss. Did Team Cherry forget bosses should have readable tells for their attacks? Half of them the only tell it had was "you got hit by it". Also>every attack the boss has blocks your next healFuck everything about this thing.
>>720296756Better
>>720301219hope so, it's a cool area
where is shakra in aidswater
wormways doordeep docks doorgreen guy cellhigh halls doorare there any other simple locks that I've forgotten about?
Is granny Silk the only incompetent female character in the game?
I want everyone here to apologize to him right now.FUCKING SAY YOURE SORRY
>double needle upgradePharloom won't know what hit them!
>>720301296What do you mean 5-10 seconds per boss run? Are you talking about RECRAFTING or REFARMING?>Need from 30-80 to recraft everythingThat's not 5-10 seconds, at all.
>>720301405nuu
I can hear them down there having fun, but when I go down they run away :(
>>720300690>LET'S ADD 50 DIFFERENT SUBWEAPONS>OH YOU USED IT LIKE 5 TIMES?>ALL YOUR SHARDS ARE GONE SORRY
>>720301306>Pale King is the only one who isn't a total fucking disaster by himself.In the post covi- I mean infection world he is the most grossly negligent of the lot.
What's the point of this? Seems pretty useless
>>720301168I've heard people say it has something to do with Steel Soul.Could also be part of cut/readjusted content.
>>720301168Yeah. That place bothered me. Maybe it's DLC. Maybe it's cut content. I did notice that one of the early trailers had a moss grotto pathway that is completely in the final game if favour of a wall with a vertical tunnel behind it now instead that leads to some shell shards.
>>720300823Same. Act 1 is such a slog because you have fuck-all abilities + movement options and it's gonna be a shitshow losing all of that.
>>720300976Speaking of DEEPESTLORE, why does the second game use "pale" as an epithet for all higher beings, and not just Wyrm? Feels like a bit of a weird retcon, considering *White* Lady and all the other weirdos have nothing in common visually.P.S. lifeblood is just another goop and not a higher being, where is my nigga Unn?
>>720300976No one remembers Unn... you missed nightmare heart too
>>720301409people who complain about needle damage are to shit-for-brains to use their tools.they want brain-shut-off and wack things with their nail, then complain nothing dies quickly.all the while their tools get dmg upgrades as well as their nail.
>>720301406i’m fucking sorry please take me back to hallownest. Glory to the Pale Wyrm.
>>720301391That's all of them>>720301440Play music
>>720301462>what's the point of speed?
>>720301413>That's not 5-10 seconds, at all.Well usually I just collect shit on the way to the boss for the next respawn so it is for me. If you think ahead, it's no biggy.Rosaries is harder because you lose all of them.
>>720300670Cheese her with poisoned tacks
>>720301462I use it for the oil mission
>>720301462what do you mean what's the point of itit's the most straightforward item possible
>>720301346I went architect on his ass with the poison charm equippedspammed projectiles and used the drill tool when he tried hitting me with his assbut yeah, he's not topping anyone's boss rankingstill not as bad as broodmother though
>>720300823absolutely zero chance until they patch out rosaries or make every enemy drop them. absolute fucking aids on replays
>Introduce foreign ecology into Pharloom>It takes over the entire area in a matter of days, mutates all the wildlife and animates the corpse of your assistantWhat was his end goal?
>>720301548:D
>>720301462Probably one of the best tools there and I refuse to not use it.
>>720301391nah, there's just four
>>720301493nah pale is only for higher beings who are made of soul. This includes silkma, white wyrm and white lady
We hate Lace puta here.
>>720298385>i like progression>the progression is doing 9 hits to kill something instead of 10
>>720301557>>720301574I can't feel speed...the run is already fast and areas are too small.
>>720301618Quick, kill it for hunter's journal entry!
>running has braking distanceshit mechanic
I feel like I've missed so much shit it's easier to just start a new playthrough. Will be interesting to see how quickly I can reach act 2 this time
>>720301342Reading the hunter's journal she specially hates those guys.
>>720301560Bruh, you're either at the very beginning (with the straight pin), not using your tools at all, or straight up lying.
>>720301536The gun is super OP.But the quickslash crest is also OP most of the time. Carves through enemies.
>>720301672spam attack when you run into an enemy without stopping
>>720300372It’s for act 3
How were you supposed to find Verdania? I stumbled on it while looking for the ant but the guy talked like Hornet somehow knew itd be there, I had no idea the green prince had anything to do with greymore.
>>720301618wow that can happen? they didn't come after 2 seconds of needolin so I tacked them
>>720301406"only a fool would mess with void"
>>720301493Wyrm is a specific species of incredibly powerful big armored worms with foresight.Lifeblood is a higher being, it's in the background of a locked room in HK's Abyss and it's in the background of the Lifeblood room in Godhome.
>OHOHOHOBRAT SEX
>>720301672you absolutely can feel the speed if you've used it for longer than five minutes and go back to not having it
>>720301669>>i like progression>>the progression is doing 9 hits to kill something instead of 10I meant how you progress through he world. Not character progression or whatever. Though growing stronger is also fun but it wasn't what I was referring to.
>>720296549So did they already nerf it into the ground for casual shitters? How massive are the changes?
>>720301786They specifically take longer than most NPCs to throw you off
>>720301679:(
>>720301727Well I use my nail when I run out of shit so it's no problem to me.You need to git gud my friend.
>>720301804She's like one of the oldest character, maybe the second oldest, in Pharloom
>>720301601The Infection 2: Plasmium Boogaloo.
>>720301809I can't...you anons are gaslighting be to waste a slot! I can't see through your tricks.
>>720301832It was act 1 nerfs, i don't see them nerfing any of thr act 2 or 3 bosses
>>720301804Lace has big Naga the Serpent vibes.
>>720301661She attacked her own mother and sacrificed to save you
>>720301801Hornet says it because she learned that the hard way too
any reason to use crests other than the quick slash one? since everything deals the same amount of damage, barely need to use any tools with dps that high
>>720301860Yeah, tell me how you're farming 30-80 rocks in 5-10 sec in a run back. Enlighten us, now.>Well I use my nail
Where to next? Still haven't figured out how to climb the Cogwork Core. No idea where to go now.
Was the solution to the Aspid complaints really "let's give it input reading"
>>720301893I literally miss jumps if I don't have it.
>>720301893That anon is right. There's quite a difference with it on. Is it worth a slot? Personal preference. I like the compass and bead magnet so I don't wouldn't switch.
>>720301209Oh yes, good luck with that kek. Her 3rd phase is where she's the most annoying but also the most open to retaliation since she's standing in place casting AOEs. Close the gap and beat her up.
>>720298968>>720299718I reached Exhaust Organ by random movement without understanding the puzzle the first time. Then came back and found proper route later.
>>720300327> Just cheatengine it, everyone else doesyou cannot be seriousTook me 5 attempts total, eith 3 and 4 being almost kills. All you need to do is hug the wall, then when he appears you harpoon his face and spam pogo. He has huge hitbox and is totally helpless if you’re above himHonestly there are meme bosses tougher than grool
>>720301686only if you turn while runningif you just release the run button as you change direction, it negates the drift animation
>>720301893>Waste a slot>In yellowThere's like 4 good yellows in the entire game
>>720301957I honestly don't see one, it's really down to what moveset you like the most. I'm thinking of using Beast from my second playthrough just because it stands out a bit more with that insanely awful (at least at first glance) pogo
>>720301978I get like 30-40 in a run to the boss maybe?Takes fuck all time.
>>720301893I 100% the game with itMobility is your best friend
>>720301462I'd go as far as to claim it's the best charm in the entire game. Not only is it good outside of combat for exploration and whatever. But it's also excellent in combat. Maybe all the people complaining about not being able to catch enemies that escape from you have been playing without this badge? You're super fast with it. Rather what's the point of picture related? Silkspeed seems to be all but strictly superior to it. Does Scuttlebrace have some kind of quality to it that I never noticed?
>>720300767Amazing music and design of the boss fight with how it pick up the pace Also would
>>720301980Shit, forgot my pic.Anyone wanna give me a hint on where to go next?
>>720301601In the best traditions of dork souls, devs realized they haven't made lifeblood evil and/or tragic enough, and so transformed blue blooms that give you extra health into corrupting regenerating force like it's a fucking RE virus.
The final menu screen is so kino I cant even
>>720302014nigga I'm raped in phase 3
>>720302019How lucky are you? There are 5 to 6 rooms per run (based on 8 total rooms), 2-4 exits per rooms, and you somehow stumbled back to back to the right exit? Hmm... Either you need to buy a lottery ticket, or you're lying, or it took you 5 days.
>>720302106Do all the platforming in cogwork core and you will find out
>>720302047He's not talking about Grool
>>720300759use taunt with the rings equipped
>>720302125>>720302125>>720302125
>>720300957>>720300327>He struggled on the chef so much he needed to install a modShe has like 3 attacks and they're all fine, the only issue is that she can fly off screen and never come back
>>720302019Phantom was SS's equivalent of Hornet 2. Super fun, but a bit of a difficulty spike.
Do you unlock other crests in act 2 or did I miss content? Have 3 + hunter.
>>720302106how do you find strong black woman selling maps in aidswater
>>720300670I got absolutely annihilated with 2 weapon upgrades and no double jump then oneshot her with both of thoseDouble jump in particular has huge value there, but you do so much more damage with 3rd upgrade, or so it feels likeWanderer also helps since you attack so fast you parry a lot of her attacks on accident
>>720302162Isn't all that done after getting all three songs? Have I really not explored everything I can?
>>720302146I got up to at least 4 rooms without figuring out the puzzle. Pretty regularly too.Just go fast.You get a break room after 3.
>>720302146The first time I went there I managed to get the first transition screen with the fireflies by pure luck when I still thought you just had to go to the exit with the closest fireflies, still I find it odd he reached the organ and then also came back because that would mean not killing the boss
>>720302246climb up the clockwork core, its not connected to the lift
>>720301957>>720302076The magic sword crestis really goodBut so is the Hunter crest. People keep claiming Wanderer has the highest dps, but I don't actually think that's true provided you don't get hit as Hunter.
>>720302102It lets you dash backwards which can help on certain bosses.I still wouldn't waste a slot on it.
>>720302297How though? There seems to be no way up from here.
>>720300778They're too strong. Farming is punishing.
>>720302143I did it with the beast crest, you can do it anon I believe in you.
>>720302102You can climb straight walls with it really fast if you buttdodge into them, that's about it
>>720302014>lat 2 masks>avoid the arena sweep void>drop down>she respawns right at my landing spot>dieniggerbitch
>>720301391Where is the halls door?
>>720302106how do you get into the putrified ducts?I beat groal and found the key of the apostate but couldn't find any way to advance in that areaam I coming in from the wrong side?
>>720302398youve been up there oncethere are 2 small icons top right and bottom right from your character
>>720302320>It lets you dash backwards which can help on certain bosses.Well. Yeah. But Silksong has no turn speed (unless you're already sprinting)So why wouldn't you just turn left in a milisecond and then sprint left instead? And it comes with the added option of being able to run forward. And jump out of sprinting to attack or further avoid stuff or whatever.
>>720302285Yeah I don't buy it. I can understand getting to the first transition screen, but beyond that it's not possible to just stumble onto the exit without any struggle.
>>720302462Wow I never would have known that if you had not pointed that out to me. Thanks Anon.
>>720301893Use it with a delivery quest and you'll see.
>>720302413Then you need to try pic.You learn their patterns enough to do them quick if you are aggressive with them. I used to play more conservatively in HK, SS has changed that because it's just more fun to play fast despite the risk.
>>720302442it's in the room right before the gauntlet roomif you take the tube there and just jump around, you'll see a sign with a rosary on it
>>720302504I might be wrong but it might save the correct paths you've taken, as in say you take the first correct path and then get lost on the 2nd the next correct path will still take you to the 3rd
>>720302102This item is quite good. Instant dash with no recovery time, more i-frame than normal dash and yeah can climb walls and spikes with it.
>>720302419I'm doing it with hunter, I get it to phase 3 practically without being hit but aoe spam rapes me
shhhh
>>720302713What spikes, I went around testing it when I saw someone say that and I couldn't find a single one that you could walk over
>>720301957>hunterfor god gamers that can properly exploit the damage buff>wandererfor quick slash and classic pogo fans, a good all-rounder>reaperfor slow and defensive players, also decent for slippery bosses that you can't hit more than once>beastfor cavemen that want to stack all the damage buffs and madmen that actually got used to the downward attack>witchhas a funky downward attack and 3 blue slots but a bad heal, not sure>architectcheese: tool edition>shamancheese: spell edition
>>720302774WAKE UP
>>720301346An anon gave me the advice to dash under as much as possible which triggers the boss to do the ground pound move making it very predictable. Still had to deal with the dive but it made it much more manageable
>>720302774>no decorations are you an animal?did you even paint your bell?
>>720302815the Beast downward attack is hellgood
>>720302774>spiders really live in bells like this and don't see any issue
>>720302853>>720302774broke ass bug
>check out a speedrun>the entire time, he’s jumping in the air and doing the down-diagonal attack because it’s slightly faster than runningabsolutely miserable
>>720302303As long as wanderer is 25% faster than hunter then it will have more dps than hunter. Even more if you account for the extra silk gain allowing you to use a spell. What is less talked about is how busted architect charged attack is, it's equivalent to 6+ hits. And if you had to that the tool spam you can't do, it's fucking op.
>>720302113Lifeblood was already implied to be bad in the first game
I have no fucking clue what to do. I've done every single side quest I've found, I've gotten (what I think) is all the crests, I've done so much bullshit. But I go beat the last boss again and it does nothing, and there's a fucking bell I can't access either and I've looked everywhere for a way to access it. I'm going insane.
>>720302969>a style of playing a game known for autistic repetition to make marginal split second saves is autistic and repetitiveInsightful
No fucking way it was just a mask shard
>>720303051Whoops
>>720303076Are these crystals the same as the ones in Crystal Peak from the first game?
>>720302113They told you it's bad mojo and taboo in the first game. They've shown you WHY in this game.
>>720302195You need double jump
>>720301802>lifeblood is in the abyss and godhomeAnd how does that prove anything? Legit don't see your point, there are crawlids native to the abyss, and Godseeker is a weirdo. Nobody talks about lifeblood because it is mostly a gameplay thing, I have no clue why it was suddenly elevated to a higher being status.
>>720303035>As long as wanderer is 25% faster than hunter then it will have more dps than hunteryou need to account for opening windowsdps means shit if you can get 1 or 2 swings in with either crest
I got all the nail upgrades, but void fuckers are still taking dozens of hits, is there a item later that does more damage to them?
>>720303305The gitgud
>>720303035>As long as wanderer is 25% faster than hunter then it will have more dps than hunter.Even with max Focus with Hunter from having gotten a damageless combo streak? The damage boost seems to be pretty great.
>>720303286>opening is long enough for one hit periodHunter hits for 125%>opening is long enough for one hunter but two wanderer hitsWanderer sits at 200% without crits>opening is long enough for two hunter hitsThen the opening is long enough for three wanderer hits, so he sits at 300% vs 250% damage, excluding crits.Hunter is strictly only superior in very dodgey quick fuckers.
>>720302431She pops up inside one of her AOE so you don't see the next attack coming and you jump in panic. Then you get hit anyway because she did her jump attack.
>>720302931i hated base hunter pogo just because its starting frames move you downward and forward a bit, before the active frames of the attack actually start, and beast is 3 times worse on that fronti use it for boss-killing
>>720303379It's only at max focus that you get additional damage, and it's 25% extra. Also, yeah don't forget that wanderer can crit for triple damage.
>>720302815>>witchHas the best nail art. With the only contender being architect's.
>>720303450>>opening is long enough for two hunter hits>Then the opening is long enough for three wanderer hits,No, there can be openings where you can hit with either no more than two times. You would only have guaranteed three hits if it was 50% faster or more, not 25%.
>>720303507>starting frames move you downward and forward a bit, before the active frames of the attack actually startI think that's actually the main issue most people have but are too dumb to figure it out. It's specially egregious against flying enemies with their dumb schizo movement. There is no game design for the dive kick to have unactive starting frames.
>>720303548>It's only at max focus that you get additional damageNo. There are two hunter crest evolutions.
so is the mist just a big fuck you labyrinth with no way out?
>>720303706I only have and tested the max evolved one, you only get additional damage at max focus and it's 25% extra.
>>720303732there is a way to find correct exitplay the needolin to fireflies
>>720303732Refer to >>720297085
>>720303450I think pogo's attack speed is the same too, and again when some enemies blitz through the screen you can get a single hit offI think it's way closer than you think
>>720303787oooooooooooooooh, ok, they were following em around but i didnt know about that
>>720300497took me 4 hours to do it but i finally beat it now.pogoing and hoping they don't do air attacks did it. still hadn't figured out how to recognize them, i suppose that was my mistake
are you serious nigger?
which builds are noob traps? currently quickslash + 4x heal + fast heal
