With Playstation brand being stronger than ever thanks to support of pc community, how long until Nintendo follows the suit and ports their games to steam?
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>>720343243>PC contributed 31 billion dollars of revenuehow??
>>720343448Where does it say 31
Nintendo makes games in order to sell overpriced hardware
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>>720343625I dont see 31 anywhere
>>720343243Never, and all this does is kills the PlayStation console as hard as it killed the Xbox console. You better prepare yourself, next gen. The Xbox "Magnus", PS6 "Orion", and PS6 "Canis" are going to cost an arm and a leg, $700-$1400+, since they're all going to have dedicated NPUs and AI Accelerators while the Xbox is going to launch with PC gaming launchers out of the gate to install.
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>>7203436704268 billion yen was 31 billion dollars
>>720343694pure speculation conjecture
>>720343735All of that wasnt done by Pc though
>>720343807If it wasn't done by PC then why does PC get the credit. Fifa/Cowadoody/live service children have done more for the brand than PC ports
Games?
>>720343851I dont know. Who credited PC? Yeah, its an easy to use AAA box. So what
>>720343763It's not, dedicated NPUs and AI Accelerators are going to cost a lot, Steam Deck 2 will also use Zen 6 and RDNA 5/UDNA but it won't have dedicated NPUs and AI Accelerators, it'll be more like the Switch 2's AI usage. These things are going to cost a lot, especially the Xbox.
>>720343886How do you know theyll have those
>>720343625>250% "sales">50% the profitBy "sales" they just mean revenue from the looks of it? Either way. Lol.
>>720343886discrete ai has more purpose than discrete physics accelerators, but it's going to be integrated or bust with the gamer crowdand for actually practical home applications you don't need more than a coral tpuproduct for nobody
What are people buying PS5s for exactly? Is it really just a Fortnite machine?
>>720344325f2p, sports, and call of duty yeahit's also much quieter than a ps4 pro for what that's worth, but seeing as the average sony household can't identify the smoke alarm, it's probably not that
>>720344092Leaks>>720344309Exactly, Sony and banking on the PS6 looking better because of ray tracing and AI upscaling and enhancements while Microsoft is banking on a console that's 50% more powerful than the PS5 Pro with BC and Game launchers but at a ridiculously high price. They're both done.
>>720344175sales also means revenue, I suppose you are financially illiterate?
>>720343243We already are getting native ports, if they were ever needed. Having Nintendo meddling will fuck up our decompilation/recompilation efforts, leaving us with shitty ports.
>>720343243Steam is already porting their games to switch
>>720344623>Steam is already porting their games to switchWhat?
>>720344504>sales also means revenueHuh?
>PS5 generating record profits when inflation is at record highsHuh, here I go again noticing patterns.
>>720343243I genuinely Nintendo is too culturallly insular and autistic to consider making their games work on anything but their own hardware.
>>720344726Portal 1 and 2 are on Switch
>>720345087OH NO!!!!!!!!!!! anyway
>>720343243How. PS5 has almost no games. I can understand reading the room and being the most profitable gen to date, but dwarfing every previous gen's profit in a single gen? I guess they ported their shit and increased PS+ prices but even then, FUCKING HOW.
>>720345354Because people buying PS5s dont really care about exclusives.
>>720343243when they give up on their IP crusade, so never
Don't they have multiple big gachasloppa that make retarded amounts of money? Like Genshit?
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>>720344894so it is indeed the same
>>720343243why can't you read anonplaystation needed pc support because it was bombing
>>720344325Every first world middle class gamer + casuals.If you log off from /v/ for a day or two you will realize that outside this shithole videogames = Playstation.
>>720345354little timmies, especially from migrants backgrounds), see the console as a social status things. "I'm not a poorfag beggar peasant anymore because I have a ps5" is their new "I'm not a poorfag beggar peasant because I have n adidas"
>>720349001>t. russian
>>720345354Consoles still have their 2000s era marketing momentum, but they're no longer being sold at a complete loss and instead have very exploitative marketing models.For the average person the PS5 will ask for more than the initial investment in paid online and controller replacements not covered by their scummy warranty.2000s consoles had the advantage of a marketing boom misleading investors into thinking that they had an audience interested in more than Fifa and Madden, whereas 2010s consoles lost that advantage and needed to be profitable as purely Fifa and Madden devices, hence the disastrous Xbone conference.
>>720343243you’ll never get Nintendo to bend the knee, schlomo
>>720350575The average person plays f2p shit without paying for online.
>>720343243>With Playstation brand being stronger than ever
>>720343625Less profit for less tax
>>720348835>Niggers and Arabs>First worlr middle classlol
>>720343243I doubt they will. They only compromised with mobile and I think that was just because they realized the handheld market they previously dominated had just been utterly destroyed. At most I could see one of their studios like Retro do a multiplatform release but not that it would include any Nintendo properties. So no Metroid Prime 4 on Steam or anything.
Xbox was high on its horse, meanwhile Sony came to SEAChads in early 2000. Now Microsoft beg SEAChads to use their shitty gamepass service lol
using ai, adjusting for inflation, from 1994 to 2025:>The $10 billion earned between 1994 and 2025 would be worth approximately $14.79 billion today, assuming an average annual inflation rate of 2.55%
>>720343553and sony doenst make any games and raises the price of 5 year old harware
>stronger than ever>support of the PC community Sony still needs to release games concurrently before there's any fucking justification to treat them as a worthwhile supporter of PC. Bringing stuff years later is better than nothing but fuck you if you expect full price or anything close to it. I'd accept 1-3 months at most provided PC releases had proper technical development on release, but fucking around for ages is not acceptable - same with proprietary network bullshit (ie online play for Ghost of Tsushima Director's Cut. ). Its not hard to get this stuff right, but we already have >Death Stranding 2 not yet available>Ghost of Yotei upcoming and console faggotry only So Sony needs to get their shit together and realize that PC players are not going to double-dip and instead they lose money by not releasing concurrently or close to it.
>>720351629PC players bitch endlessly about not being forced to buy a console they will bitch even further if they get day one releases. Sony would be wise to always delay everything.
>>720351629?It's not about Sony supporting pcIt's about pcfags being ready to buy anything from Playstation Even concord sold better on pc, thanks to steam users trust in the Playstation name
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>>720343243>With Playstation brand being stronger than ever thanks to going 3rd party.
>>720352175>If you give people what they want on the platform they want, they'll somehow be upset about it? This makes no fucking sense. PC players are rightly bitching about the delays, pricing, and sometimes the quality or issue with ports along with the pricing . If they released everything concurrently, there would be no reason to bitch and there would be more purchases both early and after a time on sales. The only way anyone could see it differently was if they were sycophantic corporate garbage who wanted to be raked over the coals out of 'loyalty' to a billion dollar corporation. >>720353414Concorde? Even if that's true, its in a >Well, 5 players is more than 3 sort of way, atop the fact that Steam has wider distribution and more metrics available than console proprietary platforms. Keep in mind Helldivers 2 had a major issue with the PSN requirement stuff because the game had sold in places that didn't even have PSN capability, so people who bought the game on Steam, ended up not being able to play when PSN requirements were shit down from the suits on high
>>720343243Can't wait for the meltdown in a couple of hours and the main event on Friday, your poor heart won't be able to handle it
>>720351352anon that's not how it works, Retro is fully owned by Nintendo. They're not HAL or IS
>>720353548Pc players bitch about the ps5 not having games because they want to be forced into buying one and can't just be happy getting the games. It's not logical, no, but that's life.
>>720353719I know. I'm saying I could see Nintendo experiment with the PC market by letting one of their studios make a multiplatform release, as long as it was 100% original, no Nintendo characters included. But even that would be a stretch.That being said I could see a Pokemon game coming to Steam in a similar vein to the mobile games. No mainline stuff, just some MMO or gacha or whatever. Again, massive stretch, but it wouldn't surprise me.
>>720351629>>720353548If they release the PC port day 1 the overall product would be worse off, do you realize that you brown turd worlder? Resources and time would have to be split and sacrificed in order to hit the deadline for both platforms
>>720343625>Barely make any profit>Have gorillion dollars of debt while nintendo have noneLmao, next console going be PS3 all over again but worse.
>>720354318Nintendo will never release their games on PC or rival platforms because they're not selling their purpose as a company is not to sell software but to sell overpriced hardware.This is the core difference between them and Sony and the reason why Sony made Horizon 2, god of war 2, gran turismo 7 and so many other games crossgen while Nintendo locked their games into the Switch 2 while obviously being able to run on the OG switch. They were crossgen during Wii U/Switch period for crying out loud
>>720356360>release overpriced and outdated tablets with 80 dollar exclusives that never get discounted and made with indie game budgetsIf Sony wants to be as profitable as Nintendo they can simply do that by making their products as bad as theirs, be on autopilot with no R&D and make 1000$ consoles with 5 year old hardware.>going be PS3 all over again but worse.Except that you'd realize that would never happen if you had above African IQ
>>720343625>revenue.jpeg.pngwhy would you use lossy compression just to use lossless compression afterwards?
>>720356519Based
>>720356360>Lmao, next console going be PS3 all over again but worse.You know it will with dedicated NPUs and AI Accelerators. The next meme devices Sony and Microsoft are adding to their next gen chips.
Next Sony console is portable that can run ps5 games...
>>720343243When all the millennials die of old age, Nintendo will pivot to exclusively making phone-slop just out of spite. They hate how open and free computers are.
>>720360598While being weaker than the PS5 playing the games worse. You might as well spend less on a Switch 2 and Steam Deck 2.
>>720343243Can't believe more people are buying the PS5 compared to PS4.PS4 had cool exclusives, those are all on PC now. There is no reason not to build a PC instead at this point, and yet people are buying PS5's for some reason.
>>720345354Look at the best selling games on Xbox and PlayStation for the last decade. Exclusives aren't on there. People don't buy consoles any more for exclusives.
>>720343243SIE should have ended with the PS3 before turning video games into cinematic experience slop
>>720361404Just wait for gta
>>720343696does anyone ever question why this graph is almost a perfect 25/25/25/25 split?
>>720343243>consolebabs saved from death by PCGODSkek, holy shit thats funny to me, we won so fucking hard, that we both killed them and saved them
>>72035636028 billion isn't a "gorillion dollars in debt"that's chump change
Why did sony claim the ps5 is the fastest selling console ever?
>>720361329Cost. It's not worth buying a pc.
>>720356519>If Sony wants to be as profitable as Nintendo they can simply do that by making their products as bad as theirs, be on autopilot with no R&D and make 1000$ consoles with 5 year old hardware.Sony has tried for decades to create successful franchises. They just couldn't do it >>720344325They posted the most successful Playstation games ever and it was pretty much only GTA/COD lol
>>720361156the Switch 2 is worse than a ps4 from 2013
>>720361329>There is no reason not to build a PC instead at this point, and yet people are buying PS5's for some reason.People didn't buy a PS4 just because it had exclusives that weren't on PC.The PS5 could have 0 exclusives and people would still refuse to build a PC LMAO
>>720362102PS4 was Sony's last generational leap. These consoles haven't changed since. That's why the Switch 2 is going to last for a long time.
>>720362102PS4 didn't even get the cyberpunk expansion, a last gen game
>>720362152>The PS5 could have 0 exclusives and people would still refuse to build a PCThey've clearly lost millions of console sales already. PS5 is still 2 million behind. Now Nintendo got third party games and xbox shit and possibly Playstation games as well. Sony went full retard
Why are Nintendofans so delusional. Nintendo makes less money than Xbox, the company they proclaim to be dead regularly. Playstation is the only winner of the console wars.
>>720362298Nintendo makes more profits than Sony and Microsoft ever made on the PlayStation and Xbox, even Valve shits on Sony and Microsoft with Steam. Those retards went big and are now going home.
>>720362204PS5 was an 8-10x performance leap wether you cope or not.
>>720362396lol lmaodelusional.
>>720343243Nintendo has no reason to port titles to PC since their games are the main reason their hardware sells
>>720362267>They've clearly lost millions of console sales alreadyHold that judgement until after GTA 6 is released.>>720362396Valve and Nintendo objectively give you the worst value. No shit they are passively making pure profit while having 500 employees and shitting out shovelware
>>720362529>Hold that judgement until after GTA 6 is releasedIt'll come to Switch 2 and PC anyways lil bro>Valve and Nintendo objectively give you the worst valueHow? PC/Nintendo gives you access to all games
>>720362476>It'll come to Switch 2 and PC anyways lil broSure, in 2028 after everyone spoils it on the internet and multiplayer gets ruined by updates, especially on PC when it will be full of brown cheaters from the third world
>>720362448Everything looked the same, it was just a bump to 60FPS from 30 along with a resolution increase with less loading times. It was a sad boost.>>720362468>RevenueProfits?>>720362529>Valve and Nintendo objectively give you the worst valuelmao
You can tell Nintendofags are insecure when they latch onto Steam everytime we have these threads when Valve does not need Nintendo either.
>>720362590>How? PC/Nintendo gives you access to all gamesNintendo gives you access to games made from 2017 and afterwards on overpriced and outdated tablets.Valve makes no hardware and therefore no reason to skim 30% off every purchase. They make no games outside of shit no one wants like dota card games with 8 concurrent players.Valve is Sony but even worse. PC would be a better platform without them and with EGS & GoG as the only options
>>720362691Just tell them that emulators on PC invalidate the reason to own a Switch and they will immediately start seething and calling you names
>>720362747>overpriced and outdated tabletsNice try retard. Inb4 you post some 1-2 grand PC handheld with FSR framegen lol>Valve makes no hardware and therefore no reason to skim 30% off every purchaseAnd yet despite Sony being around since the 90s with Playstation they couldn't compete with Valve and had to release their games there
>>720362865Nice try retard. Inb4 you post some 1-2 grand PC handheld with FSR framegen lolI never intended to, are you so insecure about your purchase that you need to point at obvious pc handheld scams that have similiar profit margins as the shitch?>And yet despite Sony being around since the 90s with Playstation they couldn't compete with Valve and had to release their games thereSony is not competing with Valve. Porting their games over there avoids them from having PC cattle buy a PS5 at a loss and buy 1-3 exclusive games.Unlike Bingtendo, Sony sells their hardware at a loss and can't afford to have PCtards taking advantage of that for a few games
>>720343243nortubel is a stronger brand than playstation
>>720363042>I never intended to, are you so insecure about your purchaseNo it's just what you retards do every time and it still looks like shit. You said outdated and overpriced. Okay prove your point them. Post a $450 handheld that can outdo Switch 2 in games like Star Wars Outlaws. >Sony is not competing with Valve.Of course they are and Valve's winning. Plus PC gamers are now pirating Sony games for free easily so they have fewer reasons to buy Playstation ever again>Sony sells their hardware at a loss Haven't been true for years and they've been scamming their fans for 2 generations now. They're never gonna go back to the PS3 days where they tried to make advanced shit and take a big loss on that.
>>720363429PC gamers were only going buy 1-3 PS exclusives so them pirating Sony games on Steam harms Sony less
>>720363860>PC gamers were only going buy 1-3 PS exclusivesThey can pirate anything releases on PC so no. And losing out on console sales means they lose out on everything else, paid subs, controllers etc
>>720343625People look at this and laugh at Sony but really it's just Nintendo overcharging for shitty android tablets and cheaply produced games with AAA prices. The profit margins are just a consequence of how stupid and milkable a fanbase is.
>>720364016Sony has done a ton of price increases for generations now
>>720343694Every console manufacturer is freaking out over children moving away from console gaming towards f2p mobile shit. It is a consequence of both consoles and games pricing out everyone under 100k a year. Raising prices just accelerates the trend and ages the audience into irrelevance
>>720363980PC gamers who were going to buy Demon's souls and astrobot WITHOUT PS plus or extra controllers are not a net loss if they stay on PC
>>720364156To try and match Nintendo's profit margins, it's working to increase revenue short term but it's just driving people to PC.
>>720364213lol no Sony could have kept their exclusives to Playstation. Games like HD2 and so on could lead to paid subs/console sales but Sony went full retard so now they don't got shit
>>720364176I think the price increases just incentivizes people to stick to older hardware and refuse to upgrade. the lack of of game sequels paired with long dev also alienates newcomers.Like why would first time Console buyer care about, say returnal instead of the tried and tested Gran Turismo 7??
>>720364330PC gamers make up the majority of HD2. Those people would not have bought a PS5 JUST to play that game and nothing elseCan you even read you stupid nigger? people don't buy gaming devices on a whim because they like 1 or 2 games. Sony would've lost money if it was a PS5 exclusive
>>720364213If they had exclusives those pc gamers would buy a playstation and their entire business model of rent seeking for using your own internet or releasing games on their system would still function. What is profitable about being a console owner is not your first party releases, it's everything else.Sony has sold their future for short term profit, I'm not complaining because I'm tired of buying gaming hardware I don't need.
adjust for inflation
>>720344325More or lessMost people are fed up will all the bullshit too but don't know any better>t. showed some boomer how to play Pokemon Red on his smartphone and another one how she can install NewPipe and Firefox with ublock
>>720364412>Those people would not have bought a PS5 JUST to play that game and nothing elseRight, Sony losing millions and millions of Playstation sales/paid subs is totally worth it. All you're doing is repeating Xbox shills talking points lol
>>720364439PC gamers who were going to buy it for 2 first party games were not going to hold onto it to play third party games.Sony wins every time a PCtroon says they have no reason to buy a PS5 because of PC ports.
>>720364581please rationally reason why a console sold at a loss would benefit from a situation like this
>>720364701Partly that situation happened BECAUSE all third party companies wants to be on Nintentendo/PC so having real exclusives is more important than ever
>>720364176I kept hearing that for more than decade, and yet both 3ds and switch were very successful
>>720364634That's why you offer more than 2 exclusives, nobody buys anything for 2 fucking games. The point is it stops people from becoming pc gamers in the first place if the console market is healthy. If the software package is more compelling than the new releases on PC they will pay for other shit like PS+, the way every pc gamer who is partially a tendie pays to play their baby games online.Sony has basically accepted they are too incompetent to make a compelling software lineup for their console.
>>720364794>Partly that situation happened BECAUSE all third party companies wants to be on Nintentendo/PCThird party companies want to be on every platform because they are all extremely similiar, easy to develop for and make the most money>so having real exclusives is more important than everSony's Success for the past 10 years was because of normies buying third party games and NOT first party games.I can't tell if you are too dumb to reason with logic or illiterate.
>>720364961>the way every pc gamer who is partially a tendie pays to play their baby games onlineNo PC gamer is partially a tendie because they can already emulate Switch games for freeNot going to read the rest of your babble if you're going to repeat the PC + Switch meme
>>720345354The chart doesn't really adjust for inflation so right off the bat newer has a huge advantageAfter that its just general shareholder pleasing.Rinse the consumer for more money, operate with workers doing more work for the same pay, gut any incentives once you've made your sale.
>>720344325Third party games. These are the top 10 most played games.
>>720364995>Third party companies want to be on every platform because they are all extremely similiar, easy to develop for and make the most moneyMore like Capcom said PS5 was a barrier and Square Enix said Playstation wasn't working out for them anymore. Something like "If Sony doesn't believe in Playstation why should we.">Sony's Success for the past 10 years was because of normies buying third party gamesBecause Nintendo gets third party games now and if Playstation doesn't have exclusives they have no selling points vs PC or Nintendo
>>720343243Nintendo will literally hold their IPs on their locked-in systems for as long as Miyamoto is alive, there is no fucking way in hell they will ever bother porting them when they can wrench damn near full price out of their paypiggies years after the fact
>>720361329Tech illiterates don't like PCs and never will.
>>720365174Cheaper than pc, stronger than nintendo. It's the best balanced system out there.
>>720364932The 3ds was middling and both were also the most price sensitive consoles of their era. The explosion of Roblox among kids is a consequence of them being priced out of real games. They keep cranking up the prices and more people fall out the bottom.
>>720364995>because of normies buying third party gamesand most importantly, buying DLC and MTX for those third party games. That's where they make most of their money.There's a reason why the OP propaganda graphic says PS5 ***GENERATION***.
>>720365059You can't emulate online play you retard.
>>720365308>Cheaper than pcWith paid online and price increases this isn't even true anymore. I could get a NEW PS4 with free games in bundles for like 200-300 or something like that. Now PS5 is expensive as hell and got 0 exclusives
>>720365174Nintendo always had third party games and its audience clearly doesnt buy them.Why isnt GTA 5 or CoD on the Switch when its more powerful than a PS3?
>>720365365>You can't emulate online play you retard.Ok?? why would I play multiplayer on toddlerslop games designed for literal children. Im not a pedophile>>720365406PS5 costs less if you buy it brand new, subscribe to PS+ premium and play 20 of its first party that you have buy full price on Steam
>>720365424>Nintendo always had third party gamesFortnite played like shit on switch 1 and some games were cloud only>Why isnt GTA 5 or CoD on the Switch when its more powerful than a PS3?Companies were retards after the Wii U flopped
>>720365308The price of ps+ is now so high we already went over the tipping point where pc gaming is just cheaper.
>>720365609>Fortnite played like shit on switch 1 and some games were cloud onlySo the hardware was not adequate for games designed with 2013 hardware in mind. Got it
>>720343243>Profit increases due to inflationI thought businessfags were supposed to be smart?
>>720365524Ask the tendies who pay to play online while owning a pc. This isn't an argument about your personal taste you narcissistic moron.
>>720365668Yeah still not sure where you're getting with this. It's obvious to see why this is a big advantage for Nintendo now.
>>720343243>Nintendo follows the suit and ports their games to steam?Nintendo putting their games on PC is inevitable, but there's not a chance in hell they go straight to Steam. They'll create their own launcher and try to lock it and their games down into the absolute dirt. Only if that fails would they go crawling to Steam.Nintendo fanboys would swear up and down none of that will ever happen and Nintendo could just live forever no matter what and if their hardware tanks they'd just let their brands die with it, but Nintendo isn't about hardware, its about their brands. They will do whatever it takes to keep their brands alive.
>>720365749If the hardware was not up to part for third parties then why do you try to revise history as if third parties cared for it???
>>720365792>Nintendo putting their games on PC is inevitable
>>720343243This is you waiting for Nintendo games on Steam.
>>720365837Use words, anon. Try writing more than 1 schizo sentence
>>720365406Stronger than both nintendo and the ps4, while being cheaper than pc. What part of best balance don't you understand?
>>720366132Because even for the PS5 owners they'll save money selling their Playstation and buying Nintendo or PC and still getting the same games then that's not balanced at all. Like we'll see if that job listing is for real or not but HD2 on Xbox means it's probably legit. Not to mention all the PS4 owners out there, they're better off buying Nintendo at this point
>>720366259>the same gamesShow me the nintendo store listing for Clair Obscur: Expedition 33. Must be blind as I can't seem to find it.
>>720366471Why are you writing neogaf shit on 4chan
>>720366557Show the fucking listing, dude. They play the same games, right?
>>720366647???
>>720365308>both lies proven by the real worldKeep living in your delululand faggot snoy.
>it's another "Sony actually going multiplatform is a good thing because they said so" thread>it's another "snoy falseflagging as a PCerdo" thread>it's another "actual PCerdo taking the bait" thread>it's another "snoy vs the world" thread>muh culturally impactful GTA6>muh PC emulation>ackthually PS5 is better than a PC because this and that>ackthually exclusives don't matter chudThis Sony vs PC "discussion" is getting old, literally the same points over and over again, it's like I'm having a dejavu or watching a pair of chatbots throw opposing arguments at each other for the sake of being contrarian. I literally read the same arguments yesterday.
>>720343243>ps5 generation
>>720343243this is really sad, looks like going ultra woke somehow paid off
>>720367159It's the conclusion to vee posters who don't play any videogames whatsoever; they argue about the games they once enjoyed 20 years ago before becoming bitter (You) addicts.
>>720369261Nah dude sony fanboys are literally insane. Check the other forums where they have profiles. They have endless of posts just defending Sony for free. They're mentally ill and broke
>>720367159>>720369261Exclusives are bad for gamers, how is that hard to understand
>>720345354Anon, have you forgotten how much money they lost with the PS3? It literally deleted their profits from the PSX and PS2.
>>720367159>no i actually profit off a corporation artificially limiting games to unremarkable hardwareyou either have sony stocks or you hate yourself
>>720371125>no i actually profit off a corporation artificially limiting games to unremarkable hardwareBut enough about the Switch 2 and Steam dick
