>ruins you're game
>>720382923How so? It was a lot more convenient than sitting in the middle of Varrock typing "SELLING LOBBIES PRESS 123 TO BUY" over and over again while being drowned out by a sea of other people yelling out their trade offers
>>720384437This desu.
>>720384437>How so? It was a lot more convenient
>>720384751/thread
>>720384437It was convenient alright, convenient for the botters.
>>720382923not my problem
>>720382923>Opinions you grow out of
i just cant play it anymore. i hit 2100 a year ago and i just cant do it anymore. something about this game makes me acutely aware im totally wasting my time. i can play other games fine but this one just *feels* evil, wrong, cursed to play. i just cant play it anymore.
>>720382923not my problem I play the real game mode
>>720384913>>720385260Shut the fuck up Helmies
>>720384437It was part of the soul, something Jagex couldn't bring back.
>>720384857>implying getting drowned out by botters scripted to repeat trade offers or scams was any betterAt least with the GE you could just put your shit up for auction and then fuck off to do something else.
So what's stopping you from trying to buy and sell items without the auction house?Oh, right. You just scammed people and now you're mad you can't do it anymore.
>>720384913>>720385260>Tons of official alternative game modes>Need to pay a separate subscription per character All to justify doing jack shit about the botting problem because it prints money.I'll never go back.
>>720382923You're trying to argue with a bunch of autistic losers that avoid social interactions why the removal of said interactions was bad for the game.
>>720382923>"REEEE, the GE ruined the game!!!">OSRS is launched, a version of the game without the GE (literally 2 months before its release)>everyone soon realizes that it's actually fucking SHIT having to spend 3 hours offloading your items and buying more supplies>everyone overwhelmingly votes for a "trade post" to be added (basically a GE-lite, lists trades but you still have to manually find and trade players)>this is still shit>players overwhelmingly vote in favor of the GE>all is good againThen the nostalgiafaggots come out of the woodworks again to complain about how much better things were, even though they were proven wrong in real time.I hate you people so much. You pretend history didn't happen.
>>720384437I thought runescape was supposed to be a game about adventuring, dialogue, and crafting, not relentless moneymaking.
>>720384437>a lot more convenient than trade being taken over by forumsftfy
selling gf
>>720385785That shit gets thrown to the wayside when they give you a chance to buy a sub with in-game money then crank the price of memebership to typical MMO levels.
Just play IM like a normal man. >inb4 seething non-helmies
>>720385785>and craftingand what would you do with those crafts anon?
>>720385571I'm as big a believer of the "Jagex will never ban bots because they make up ~30% of their revenue" conspiracy as anyone, but they did actually ban a shitload of bots lately. Wiped out many of the problem areas, player count tens of thousands lower.But yes making alts is a pain if you don't have tons of bond cash on a main. I eventually bled my old main dry so I actually main a single uim instead of hopping between meme accounts.
>>720382923>Just sell at the grand market for profit anon>Shit still haven't sold a week laterHow the fuck do you make money in this game if your shit don't sell, and yes, i've been selling stuff they say to sell in the many money making guides
>>720387557Lower your prices
What the FUCK were they thinking
>>720382923All they needed to do was tax it, massive gold sink social aspect of trade maintained as you stand to make more profit by finding a buyer outside of the GE but still facilitated finding and trading niche, rare or very low demand low volume traded items that used to be a nightmare forum trawling for.
>>720382923i just started the game recently and have just been questing and exploring and literally just adventuring without any guides whatsoever (and without any zoomer plugins) and i've had a BLAST, best MMO experience i've had in a decade. BUT, yes, this grand exchange aka auction house system is like a huge tumor in the game. it fucking sucks and i don't think it should exist. such a shame
>>720384437>Why do you even level up skills ? They should all just be 99>Why even acquire gold, you should just have infinite gold>Why do you even take damage, you should just be immortal>Why even struggle you shoud just win by defaultYeah, just click the .exe and a big "You Win!" pops up and you just watch that for 2000 hours instead of playing the game.
When I finally get back into Runescape I'm going to be a pseudo-Ironmman who still accepts trades with other players. Like if I need an item for a clue that I can't get myself I'll ask around and maybe join a clan chat to trade for it.
>>720384437Every single time an auction house equivalent has been introduced to any game with an economy in any genre, it has been at the determent of the average player in the long run. Even if it was unanimously celebrated by the player base at first, people eventually lose interest over time.This is because people forget what brought them to play and enjoy the game in the first place. The gameplay devolves into a "do whatever is efficient and most profitable right now', instead of doing what you want, and playing the game on it's own merit.
>>720384437If it didn't have the market mechanics and bidding, it would have been great. It should have been a bazaar with sections.
>>720391015>RuneScape gets the GE on November the 26th, 2007>the game's PEAK is then between this date and ~2011 (bear in mind that EoC was 2012)>OSRS gets the GE in February 2015>before February 2015, the plaercount had rises and dips. Since the GE, it has literally ONLY risen in popularity for over a decade straight>"people eventually lose interest over time."WRONG.
>>720391458>only thing that matters is peak player numbers Says a lot more than you think actually.
>>720392570>people are quitting the game before the GE>people are continuing to play, and new players are joining, after the GE>"t-that doesn't mean anything!!"Whatever you say, anon
>>720384437>It was a lot more convenient than sitting in the middle of Varrock typing "SELLING LOBBIES PRESS 123 TO BUY"The whole point of an MMO is to interact with other people, GE took that away. Now OSRS is a glorified singleplayer game with an occassional quest where you need a single other player to do something for you.
>>720389670alright, this post was made by a previous trade scammer
>>720391458My favorite era was after the RuneScape HD update, roughly 2008-2012.I still think about the game sometimes, but I don't really want to start over in OSRS, especially after the membership price increases and having limited time as an adult.I played RS3 for a couple years after EoC, but the combat system felt garbage compared to any other game and the microtransactions just kept getting worse
>>720391015>the gameplay devoles into a "do whatever is efficient and most profitable right now"this is a very funny thing to say about runescape.
>>720387557Just undercut until it sells
>>720388145I've always seen this on the map since it was added but never got around to it. It's unusual density of buildings and dark landscape make it look very mysterious. Could that be what they were thinking or is there something else?
>>720384913I wish there was a non-ge non-ironman mode but I acknowledge it's not different enough to warrant it.
>>720391015>The gameplay devolves into a "do whatever is efficient and most profitable right now', instead of doing what you want, and playing the game on it's own merit.optimization obsession is a blight on multiplayer games
>>720394212The majority of the 'city' is useless to the player, for gameplay purposes the whole area mostly just serves as a maze to navigate a few times, and narratively a way of showing how dominant the Vampyres are here (it's full of pale, suffering citizens being hounded by vampyres who are constantly demanding blood tithes)So yeah that's half the purpose of it; ambience
>>720382923>ruinsits runescape not ruinscape
>>720384437going to the community gathering spot to peddle your wares like a real medievil merchant was the most soulful & immersive shit ever
>>720394603No it's run escape
>>720394358The lepers of OSRS, snot-helms (Unranked Group Ironmen), who very deservedly get made fun of by everyone when their icon appears in chat, are basically that really.They can "trade" (there's UGIM 'stores'), but can't use the GE.But again nobody likes snot helms.
>>720394808sounds like nofriend havers being mad someone could get a group together to play runescape with each other
>>720394758dont be stupid its runes capethe game is about capes
>>720394906You're describing regular Group Ironman, most players are indifferent towards that.It's the unranked ones that are seen as scum, because they can just buy everything (but still want the prestige of being irons).
>>720395076True
I would pay 80$ for an offline version of OSRS, assuming I can use a second character to complete all of the quests and cheevos that require a second person.Jagex please
>>720395901careful what you wish for, i wanted a single player warframe and now we're getting soulframe
>>720395901I would pay a stupid amount of money for a singleplayer version of RS.It's more of a singleplayer MMO than any other, hell, the most popular gamemode literally makes it singleplayer.
>>720395901>80$ for an offline version of OSRSNever gonna happen.A 6-month membership is $70.A 12-month membership is $100.Not to mention all the sales that would be lost due to piracy.
>>720396807it probably wouldn't sell very well either, big draw of the game is the player economy
>>720384437it spawned ironman mode, the absolute antithesis of an mmo.
>>720395901the black grimoire is bretty gudhas a demo you can try out
>>720382923That isn't runelite
>>720395901You might get a version of RS3 when it goes belly up
>>720384437>pre GE>barely spend any time selling commodities and treasure trail rares for high prices>post GE>have to grind more because the price of everything tanked, greatly outstripping the minimal effort of typing "selling x 1k ea" 5 times
>>720396873I think an offline version would be popular. Even people who like the online aspects would be very tempted by the prospect of freedom from subscription costs.Jagex has no incentive to do it, though. It would directly lose them money and reduce the online population.
>>720384437>turn the entire game into a vending machine where the only focus is acquiring gold and exchanging it for XP, contributing even more to the "capescape" epidemic and ultimately leading to faggotry such as "xp waste" coming into being>give bots an insane advantage in botting resources and selling them on instead of having to shift around resources and then sell them later on a single account, thus making rwt explode>allow faggots to influence prices and make massive stacks of money without any issue, the profits depend on starting capital, before GE it was admiral to see a guy going around finding the best trades on the forum, after GE its just a fag maxing out buy orders with his clan to raise the value before dumping it to crash the prices before doing the same again>allows players to get resources they shouldn't be able to easier, thus cheapening the overall experience and removing a vital component called player growth - when players don't need to adapt and change to the game, they become complacent, lazy and demand the game adapt and change for them>allows jagex to artificially influence prices and also remove huge chunks of excess resources or gold from the economy via a stealth tax, instead of addressing the dogshit broke dick economy and trying to fix things like the abyssal whip going from a stable 1.4m for years to 100k in months>ultimately contributed to massive fluctuation in prices which had been otherwise stable for years, including things such as gems, unids, iron ore and coal, lobsters and sharks etc fuck jagex and fuck the GE
>>720397275again I disagree, I think the amount of ironmen compared to regular players shows that the people interested in a runescape divorced from the player economy are a very mall minority.
>>720397376ironman are like 30% of the playerbase, thats with included bots for mains
>>720395901runescape private servers have been around since the very start you based retardjust download one and play itthere are even versions that has bots that run around and populate the world, goofing off at lumbridge, skilling or pvping with eachother
