>here's your 5000 dollar PC gaming experience bro
>15fps above the ideal framerateI don't see an issue.
he looks like he's having a blast
>4k badass
reminds me of this for some reason
>>720397129>>720397202fuck off Randy.
>>720397246it's a 4k gpu
>>720397032>IT'S THE POORFAGS>UE5 is actually good>it's not the devs, it's a YOU problemwhat's the next cope now? I heard them all and no use
>>720397032>blur on the weapon viewmodel and armsFucking... why?
>>720397032>517W for 39FPS
>>720397032this guy is a professional ragebaiter and this retard board falls for it every time. he does this for every single new release to farm engagement. I have a 4070 and and a i9 shitel that literally cooks at 95c and I run the game at 1440p high settings getting 140+ fps, NO stuttering and no crashing
Fuck pc gamers
>>720397656Hello there Gearbox employee! thanks for the confirming this game runs good, I'm buying right now!!
>>720397526The DoF makes even less sense with the super human FoV
>pc plebs can't get 4k 60 on the mightiest hardware>ps5 gods get 4k 60fps no problemo
>>720397032Bad. Ass.
>>720397770i dont give a single fuck what you do. maybe kill yourself instead
>>720397032>517WJesus Christ my space heater doesn't even draw that much
>200k people playingI thought we were supposed to be boycotting this sloppa...
>>720397656and i'm also trans and forgot to mention this is on 4x frame generation and dlss performance
>>720397831Owning a PS5 is a problem now, since the PS6 is coming out.
>>720397941Nowhere near the numbers of Silksong
Roblox
>>720397032>over 500 watts
>>720397526It's badass
do nvidia fags just love running their gpus at 500-600w? do you care about coil whine or fan noise?
>>720397831>ps5 gods get 4k 60fps no problemowho's gonna tell him?
>>720397032Are those temps with or withour water cooling?
>>720397032Why does the game look like an AI generated image?
>>720397938>ameriwarriors preparing themselves after the death of fellow shabbo goy Israel supporter Kirk.
>>720398291borderlands has always looked ugly in static screenshots. the movement blur and post fx in motion is supposed to cover it up but once you stand still you get OPs image
>>720397032That would be $59.99 USD dollars + tips.
>>720397032Thanks bro looks fun
>>720397358It's because you don't have a custom GPU, stop being broke.
>>720397358It's *cinematic* :)
>>720398514$80 actually, get in with the times grandpa.
>>720397656This guy is probably the most fair benchmarker on youtube.
>>720397129Something on the right hand side of the screen invalidates you very quick.
>>720397032This industry is cooked
I'm really sadI thought I would be able to play this on my 2060but everyone bowed down to ue5 slop
>>720397032>4K Badasslolmaybe he should buy better hardware if he wants to run the real settings?
>>7203976561440p or "1440p"?>NO stutteringhas to be a lie. either it's a lie or Borderlands 4 of all games is the first UE5 game that doesn't suffer from shader compilation stutter. this easily comes out to 99% certainty you're a liar. Randy Pissford is gonna make a game that barely runs on high end PCs while looking like 2010, and he's gonna beat Epic's Fortnite at optimization? the former is expected, the latter is basically impossible.
>>720400796Sir I have a 1080TI SLI setup and I get 80 FPS on high settings with raytracing turnted offs. Please cease your poverty.
>>720397032>game needs 8 cores>34% CPU uselol?
>>720400883Who you calling poor bitch? you can get a 1080 for $100 these days lmao
>>720397032what are you poor? just buy an H100
>>720400883SLI hasn't even been used by games in a decade, wtf are you doing?as for your 80 fps, we both know you're not getting those while anything is actually happening on screen. look at that frametime graph in the OP. you're telling me a 1080 TI is gonna look smoother? lmfao
>>720401147>A 1080 for $100And yet you cant afford two of them for 80 FPS in a shitty gamewowwaohwoahhory shid
>>720401227anon, nobody wants to play a shooter at 80 fps.
>>720397831>4kYou mean 900p upscaled to 4k lmao
>>720397032Imagine being a part of the PC faggot race in current year+10
>Brags about not playing a shit game on PC at medium settings>Gets off 4chan to do that very thing at a worse framerate on his shitbox console
BADASS
>>720401564yea, imagine playing all the games at higher frames and resolutions than consoles, what a bunch of suckers
>>720397656>1440p high settings getting 140+ fpswith framegen and upscaling you mean
Bros why are we regressing so hard
>>720397032did everyone forget how to make games? this looks like should fly on ps4-level hardware
>>72040134780 fps > 39fps
>>720397938>0:44Does he choke his target so he can scratch his ass or what?
>>720401227Whatever you say timothy I hope the electricty bill is worth those 80fps
>517 watts>39 fps>still looks like a PS4 game from 2014/2015
>>720401784because the profit has to come from somewhere and cutting costs is the only lever left that hasn't been exploited to death, plus normies are still buying the slop. the law of number go up dictates that all games MUST become complete shit as long as normies keep buying. that is how a game publisher profits in a stagnating market.
>>720401784Unironically because nvidia hit a hard stop in what they could sell cards with tech advancement wise, so they're trying to find the next gimmick to sell their overpriced cards on, RTX, DLSS, Upscaling AI fake frames, etc. They pay videogame devs to shill their new shiney bullshit in their games, the problem isUE5 is actually a bad engine, coded by retardsThe games on top of it are coded by retards because the entire industry is mid competency crisis because of an influx of elon musks favorite types and the old guard who *cared*(about profit and legacy) leftSo what you end up with is just shit that doesn't run even on the shit they were meant to sell.
What's the point of realism if you can't distnguish what's interactable without extra visual aid? Fuck realismslop
Games being unplayable at max settings was desirable back when Doom 3 and Crysis did it. Bragging rights to the first person who could play those games at 60FPS. Now it's a sin, apparently.Keep in mind there are now technologies like DLSS and frame generation designed explicitly for this purpose, but people like to be retards and call it "fake graphics" while still complaining about the low frame rates that they refuse to do anything about. It's like an audio nerd claiming he can hear the difference between 320 bitrate MP3 and FLAC. How many of you faggots have calibrated your monitor? Talking about "visual quality" with an uncalibrated Viewsonic/AOC monitor.They should start hard coding DLSS/FSR balanced into games, and add in an "HD textures" free patch a year or two later. It would stop all of the retards from complaining.
I love that in 2025 we're still blaming engine and game devs for this shit.It's the publishers. It's the executives. It's the PM who shuts down devs who try allocate a story point or two to optimization. It's the finance department that thinks paying 50% more for a dev who knows how to write performant code isn't worth it since you can just hire 3 pajeets instead.It's not Unreal's fault that companies want to use UE but refuse to hire experts. It's the most configurable engine on the planet, you can easily re-write literally every single part of it. But to do so, you need somebody who actually knows how it works. Not some 1 yoe college chump with bright eyes and the willingness to work for shit wages.Can we at least point fingers at the right people?
>39fps at that specific second while playing at 4k with an antialiasing method that's known to be more performance-crushing>make screenshot 1080p so all the redditors and retards think a 5090 is struggling with potato resolutions>it's a youtube video so it's even blurrier and muddier than it should be
>>720402153>Doom3 and crysissilly newfag tourist larper, doom 3 ran on any machinebecause solid black screens are the easiest thing to render ever.>crysisCrysis got mocked and "BUT CAN IT RUN CRYSIS" has lost its original meaning as dumb fucks like you latched onto it.
im playing bl2 and its comfy
>>720397032Does the game really have a guy in the corner?
>>720402153>Games being unplayable at max settings was desirable back when Doom 3 and Crysis did it. Bragging rights to the first person who could play those games at 60FPS. Now it's a sin, apparently.hm. what could be the perceived difference between what Crysis and Doom 3 did, compared to what Borderlands 4 is doing...? it's a mystery.>Keep in mind there are now technologies like DLSS and frame generation designed explicitly for this purposefor the purpose of devs not having to optimize a game that looks like it came out in 2010? to the point where it can't even run native 4K on the most expensive GPU in the world?? shut the fuck up and kill yourself instantly, you disgusting shill. kill yourself in real life, for real.
>>720397032why is half the screen grey
>>720402310Yes. That's the Jeet-o-Vision, he's there to tell you to stop being poor whenever your framerates dip.
>>720402025Maybe if they had some good competition, amdjeets never bring that up
9800 is some trash tier budget card or something? get nvidia faggot
Anyone on a 6600XT? Can you get 60fps on any settings?
The increase in price is really justified here.
>>720402398kek
>>720397032>games that could run on a toaster a decade ago are mogging current games without generating half their framesthe future is grim
>>720397612That cat wheel looks more fun than boredlands 4.
>>720402310It has a gay in the corner. You, the player.
>>720402689The Fox Engine isn't available to anyone else.
>>720402612you think im trolling but nah bro, youre poor
>buy game in shit franchise>it's shit>be surprised when it's shit
You already knew it was fucked when the PR team had to do damage control before the game was even out.
>>720402915I did think you were trolling. Now I know you're a fucking idiot.
>>720402689Honestly ever since MGS 2, the series has always had mind boggling technology advancements way ahead of everyone else.
>>720402471a 4060 gets about 45fps at med settings. a 6600xt aint gonna fair much better.
>>720397032>here's your 5000 dollar PC gaming experience broMine? I don't play UE5 Slop
>>720403058>"That you can get 55 - 60 fps out of heavy combat is actually incredible given how the engine and what's going on under the hood"dude is on some serious drugsI will never look @ him the same after his bathroom photo
>>720397032>this graphic>this voltage>this hardware>this fpsI have no words
>>720402176I didn't believe this until I played The Finals. It's a UE5 game with DLSS and it actually fucking works. The game looks great with an almost completely destructible environment on even midrange PCs. Chinks know something about optimization western publishers don't, I guess.
>>720402806its like saying they cannot write their own equationmath is available to everyone
Um um chuddies!!!? DLSS with TAA and raytracing is actually...le good!
>>720397032>$5000 PC>not even 40fpslol
>>720402915look above the 9800
>Jeets will still try to gaslight people into believing that UE5 slop is good when their games run and looks worse than games that came out 15 years agoCan't wait for this Unreal Slop 5 trend to stop. This bubble must pop any time now, right?!
>>720400486>everyone bowed down to ue5 slopBandai Namco is actually using a customized Unity as their inhouse engine instead.Yup. Shovelware-pushing penny-pincher Bamco is going to end up being the savior of the industry. Chew on that revelation for a bit.
>>720402176>It's the publishers. It's the executives.they are the same people. devs which have no dignity or integrity sell out to those fags for a petty penny. lmao.guess what shithead? without devs they cannot publish their slop.
>>720397032>5090 uses over 500wholy shit
>>720397938Small town warrior avenging St Kirk I see...
>>720403554Kevin we all know you are a grifter and your little "campaign" is going nowhere.
>>720397032>4k dlaa is expensive>Another poorfag seethe thread with a video from this fat spic
>>720403612you can hear the WHIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR from here
>>720402153>Now it's a sin, apparently.It was impressive back then because the game actually looked fucking insane for the time on maximum cum settings. Now these games look like absolute shit, but somehow can't break 60 fps consistently on supercomputers.
>>720403636who the fuck is Kevin, jeet? Fucking faggots trying to create a new boogieman every month now, trying to make a new Barry happen
>>720402153>Games being unplayable at max settings was desirable back when Doom 3 and Crysis did it.Exceptions to the rule dipshit.
I have never bought a borderlands game, you don't need to run some anti-shill campaign to get me to not buy trash from gearbox of all people.
>>720397032I don't care about the graphics, it is an exhausted IP. Plus the gameplay and story will suck.
>Rooks exactly the same as a game from 13 years ago thanks to the cell shaded aesthetic>Requires thousands of dollars of hardware to runExplain why
>>720397032>Cell shaded cartoon graphix that looks barely better from a decade ago , which ran back then 100+ FPS on 2010s midrange >shits the bed on a 5090 on 1080pFUCKING HOW
>>720404027Dogshit engine 5
>>720400486https://youtu.be/5C0J14TQhuc?feature=shared&t=323 Heres a video on a 3050 which is weaker than 2060 on medium settings idk, decide for yourself also: Why the fuck does this game look so ugly despite the graphics-setting ? Like, "very high" doesnt even looks much better than "normal"
>>720403636i thought my name was timmy, captain poorapist
>play at 2560x1600>need TWO top tier gpus to hit 60fpsFUCKING UNOPTIMISED SLOP
>>720401935PS4? dawg i think you can actually trick people by posting screenshots of borderlands 2 on a ps3 and saying its 4.
>5090 is now entry level for industry standard UEslopEngine for graphics that haven't improved from 2010
>>720404235but think of the AI performance tokens per second, goy!
>>720397358>Poor fagsUnironically this is not a cope. What is happening and what the point of the unreal engine as a whole is creation of a platform and and catering of entertainment that increases divide between poor and rich classes. Middle class from the stand point of the rich is problematic since it's a bridge of wealth. What is happening in world society now is destruction of that bridge. All their DEI globohomo agenda, political reformation, immigration, wars, all of it is in one way or another contributing to that.Unreal engine is on the front of entertainment industry that is games. It's the highest quality tools available for creation of that entertainment. What is happening and what message UE is sending is that the highest quality experience is only accessible only to overwhelming rich through performance requirement. You are NOT ALLOWED to enjoy the "state of the art visual fidelity" because you are simply poor..
>>720397032HOW? IT BARELY LOOKS ANY BETTER THAN BL2
>>720404221OH GOD THREAT INTERACTIVE BROS DON'T LOOKhttps://www.techspot.com/review/642-crysis-3-performance/page5.html
>>720404302>5090 for cell shaded shit on 1080p 35fpsI shan't be buyening, Jensen/Timmy.
>>720402153I have a 5090 thoughbeit, I also have a nice quality sound system and don't use MP3 or flac, I use dsd 512 for my audio. I also own a calibration device for my monitor and regularly check it. Ue5 is dogshit.
>>720404302This might actually scare me if any of these games were actually worth playing. Rich fags can have their borderslop 4. Im gonna enjoy actual games.
>>720404221Hmm yes? CoP was unoptimized dog shit.
>>720402153Here is the (you)Crysis was a breakthrough for graphics, completely new level of fidelity and engine capability.This is just slop that looks 5% better than 2010, subhuman corporate bottom spastic bitch.
>>720404535Rich fags to give a shit, as long as it shines bright they are satisfied, along with you not being able to enjoy, creating separation and exclusivity.
>>720397032>franchise known for le heckin celshaded meme>they put anti sovl gas all over it these people just want you to hate women
>>720404757That looks more like really shitty hdr than anything else.
>>720404392>>720404221what are you trying to prove retard? That is not UE5's fault? GSC did a sloppy job with Stalker because they were a small company that built their own engine and Crysis was a game a that pushed the limits of graphics like never seen before. Dumb nigger.
>>720397358careful now, when you mention anything shade against UE5 it causes unending melties from psudo devs to pile on you about how you're wrong and it's always the devs fault
>>720397938>snake try to remember the basics of BBQ
>>720397032That's not generating 4k furry porn with chroma, then animating with Wan 2.2 ti2v
>>720404812Uhm akshually you're replying to 2 different people :)>>720404827Literally never seen anything like that in any ue5 game.
>Squid massage 3d runs better in a wine window in a virtualbox running debian >Than BL4 does native windowsI'm not sure what this saysBut it says something
>>720404392>>720404221
just buy it when it goes on sale for $20 in January and it actually gets patched
>>720404302Anon. What's happening is that developers are mishandling the engine. UE5 games can be well-optimized. They can run smooth as butter. But the industry viewpoint over the last two decades is that "new tech magic, new tech fix game if not work" So when you have an entire room of grugs slamming shit together and then mass-applying tech thinking it's literal make game work magic, you end up where we currently are. The engine may have issues, but it doesn't deserve half the hate it gets.
>>720397335That's not a thing.
>>720397032how does this game run so shit? it looks like borderlands 1 and that game is from 2009
>>720402153have u seen what a game in early2000 looked? compared to crysis?now have u seen what bl4 looks compared to typical, non UE5 AAA games?
>>720405205The characters and the location in that picture aren't even from bl1 lol. XD
>>720405179There's only one (1) game that is UE5 and is well optimised but you don't know what game it is and I am not going to tell you and even then people were saying they were having problems when it released.
Do normies not see shit like this?Or the TAA blur?Games still sell a gorillion copies even when they're not optimized
>>720405324Riven?
>>720405368They do not. Framerate has never, ever mattered.
>>720405306could be from 2, i don't remember because it's been over a decade but the point stands, it looks the same due to the cel shaded art stylethere's no reason why this game should run like shit on modern hardware, it looks like a toaster game
>>720405205BL1 looks like shit dude and you posted a BL2 screenshot.
>>720405439And it isn't even ingame BL2 screenshot but promo.
>>720405368>thinks games still use TAA in 2025 FSR+DLAA+XeSS have superseded it YEARS ago
>>720397335Sometimes games have settings for future hardware, sometimes games are a bit fucked and will get fixed. >but it runs on my shitbox 5X at low, 720p and 20 fpsConsoles aren't immune to either of those.
>>720405368normies are fucking retards dudemost of /v/ is also retardedit's over
>>720405205this is bl3 with settings on low>renamed the file to bl1you are pathetic
>>720405389Tokyo Xtreme Racer and people with Nvidia were having problems to hit 60FPS on release but I was getting 60FPS on low with a RX580.
>>720405324If you use masked materials in Unreal Engine 5 and then apply the engine's proprietary lighting and materials handling stuff, your game will rope itself due to overdraw. Basically, don't use Nanite unless you're building everything for Nanite.
>>720405532No that's BL2, the image comes up when you google Borderlands 1 thoughThe game is 13 years old and looks the same as this NASA PC benchmarkNow stop sucking Randy's unwashed cock, faggot
>>720405496I'm on amd 7000 so fsr is shit desuMost likely you're right, cuz most normies use DLSS by default
>>720405408Go play BL1 then and show us how good it looks and runs lol. That game dips below 60 even on modern computers because of it being optimized for 60 fps and 2 cores.
>>720402689>it can run on a toaster because it's made for the xbox 360 and genuinely looks like shitIt being forced to run on 7th gen consoles is also why there's a hard, low cap on active npcs and development had the struggles that led to kojimbo being fired and the game being shipped unfinished.
>>720402310Yeah, they doubled down on the streamer related story line of the 3rd game, so now there is a guy constantly reacting and taunting you based on what you're doing. The game runs like shit because it's using an AI model to fully customize the taunts.
>>720405679>playing the remasterthat's your problem there kiddo.
>>720405575Explaining this. If you as a developer use texture cards or masked materials or you're not good with your geometry, and you run Nanite, you will go from 80FPS to under 20FPS. Nanite is built for every blade of grass and every leaf on the tree to actually be there, and it freaks the fuck out if you're telling it to render a bunch of shit that's stacked on top of one another where, in its ideal, that shit wouldn't be counted for rendering in the first place. That's the big one.
>>720397358You know the 5090 can do 200 fps if the turns dlss and mulltiframe gen right?
>>720397032Game runs great for me. It never dips before 30fps on my 5090
>>720405813>just use fake frames to get decent frame rate bro
>>720405179Yeah, that is exactly the case, but it's a problem below the fact I stated. Devs do be slapping shit together with tools they don't understand, but who makes those tools and for what purpose? What's their agenda? Efficiency? Looks? Investor appeal? And then what's the agenda of the investors? And what's the agenda of those who these investors follow? I'm not saying this is how you should think, and your explanation is enough for average layman, but I believe there is a broader problem going on and Unreal engines "problems" are happens to conveniently fit into place. Devs and their retardation is also indirectly part of this problem and in that sense, if it's a not a simple "misunderstanding" by some devs or people who use the engine but a direct and purposefully movement towards certain goal, can you even be mad about it? Since you are the direct target?
>>720405813this post makes me so fucking mad even though you're obviously just using it as an example
This is literally lower visual fidelity than games had in the late 2000's and yet it runs like complete dogshit on a gpu that costs more than 4 high end pc's combined did a in the past.
>>720405781You can even tell from the filename that it's 10 year old screenshot...
30fps is good. You are poor. Stop coping.>b-b-butNo, shut your fucking mouth. No more crying.
>>720397656without frame gen?
>>720405679>she doesn't have a physx capable gpushouldn't have bought AMD kiddo - the software fallback is broken
>>720405368the vast majority of steam users leave vsync on when playing shootersmost people ARE retarded, anon
>>720404221>playing a game in 1600p when the standard was 1080p>>720404392>playing a game which has a selling point of good, demanding graphicsYou proved nothing.
>>720403636>>720403803
>>720399714Didn't he have performance issues with mgsv that no one else replicated? Like his game was stuttering
>>720405919>gain full-stack monopoly on all graphics and LLM hardware and software>gimp VRAM on all your midrange and lowrange cards>develop "solution" to the low performance of these gimped cards which uses your monopoly tech stack thereby shutting out your competitor>use cherrypicked screenshots and footage and misrepresented statistics to goad content creators into parroting your perspective on graphics technology>manufacture marketwide consent for your features being an objective good>engines add them to cut down on their own ballooning dev costs>profithmm
>>720405897I mean yes, the point of framerates is to increase image clarity and stabiltiy and in a game like borderlands 4 DLSS has no artifacts so there is no reason to not use it. Soon with Reflex 2 reducing latency by 75% you'll be able to have a smooth 60 fps experience even when the native frame rate its 40 as latency will be the same, the issue is that reflex 2 has been delayed so all this games that are meant to be using Reflex 2 to archive a good experience feel like shit (reflex 2 was supposed to come like 5 months ago)
>TAA? Ghosting? Blur? Haha dude, not sure what any of that means, I just love videogames and love playing and enjoying them. 30fps is more than enough for me to enjoy my life with. You should try being more positive instead of this constant negativity, there is so much good in this world for you to enjoy.
>>720397032AAA devs chase the fortnite numbers and money all the time, I just don't understand why this shit is not a sign that they should make they games run on fucking tablets or poorfag hardware. Don't they want sales? Or do you anons think they get some bonus for selling GPUs?
>>720405897Do you have a counterargument or are you just going to continue whining about a non issue?
>>720406165are you stupid or what? monhun sold more than elden ring and you asking if they don't want sales lmao
>>720397032Why does that look worse than Borderlands 1? Am I wearing rose tinted glasses or something? I don't remember it looking this bad.
>>720406068I guarantee this post was made by poopdickschizo
>>720397032so what? I'm a boomer and have had a full time real job for 15+ years now, 5k bucks to use on my main hobby ain't shit to me
>>720405679>That game dips below 60 even on modern computers because of it being optimized for 60 fps and 2 cores.>150fps on a 5060 no suttering, no lag spikeswhy do they always lie?
>>720406089Basically nvidia salesman tricked the publisher or studios into the neural rendering meme but without reflex 2 these retards targetting 40 fps on powerful hardware now are holding the bag its also why some big titles got delayed recently
>>720401784more advanced technology = less need for problem solving = less creativitythis is really all it boils down tothe best retro games held up because they were made by developers who cared enough to nitpick everything and make thins workmodern technology enables developers to do whatever their mind desires with no limitations, meaning they have significantly less problems to solve and use significantly less creativity in the process
>>720406045>playing a game in 4k when the standard is 1080p/1440pI accept your concession you filthy black>>720406204Anon these people are universally on decade old hardware or don't even own a pc at all.They have no first hand experience with any of this, they just smash together random buzzwords and 5 second snippets from different youtube grifters into their own special blend of retardation and poorfaggotry.
>>720406316>suttering>>720406306Yes, you have nostalgiabrain.
why am /v/ so poor ?
>>720397032you dont need more than 60fps
>>720406358What, no I don't. I actually went to look up screenshots to confirm what you just said and it looks way better. What the fuck is wrong with your eyes?
>>720397032>517Whuh? my steam deck uses 20W....
>>720406358oh man I typed the T after the U, that totally proves he isn't lying!! I got epicly PWNED!!!
>>720406459Why are you so poor, Ranjeesh? Is $5k a lot of money in your country?
>>7204064815090 is also at minimum like 20x faster so...
>>720406259World (game that runs on a fucking 1650)? No but they're close. Wilds? No. ER got 16.6 million in the same time Wilds got 11M. ER got 30M by april this year but not even Capcom thinks they will get as many sales as MH Rise.
>>720406506What's that non sequitur supposed to achieve? Actually, how's that even relevant to the discussion?
>>720401868The constant motion of punches was causing his fat to jiggle and the heavy gun belt was dragging his pants down; that tactical choke was so he could readjust his pants. Based fatty, I would've done similar.
>objectively bad and completely unacceptable thing>/v/ rabidly defends itI don't know why I come here anymore.
>>7203970321080 60fps should be what devs should always aim for, they can't be trusted with anything above that. But on the other hand, if they aim for that you just know they will deliver 720p 30fps.
>>720406650>how is me being brown relevant to me being poorYou tell me, Prandeep.
>>720401551Shh, the average console plebian's eyes can't see so well, you'll mindbreak him..
>>720406820What are you even trying to cope with here? You're talking to someone who has two monitors that cost 2k USD each.
>>720401868>fat guy grabs you by the throat with one hand and starts choking you>reaches his other hand down the back of his pants and starts scratching deep between his butt cheeks>releases you>as you gasp for air he clasps the hand he used to scratch his ass over your nose and mouth and you suck in lung fulls of swamp ass and shit particlesAdmit it, you'd immediately be incapacitated
>>720406898>only 2>acting like $2k is a lot of moneySAAAAAR
I've never played Borderlands. Should I play 1 and 2? It's like Diablo with guns right?
>>720406506>pwning the chuds my making fun of povertyi'll fuck my Che Guevara poster with my neovagina to that one, commiesister
>>720406934Well whatever, keep seething about whatever it is that you're seething about. I estimate you're subhuman.
>>720406746No one is defending its the shills deflecting dev responsibility on the consumer by calling them poor. It's a bewildering tactic
>>720397938>my space heater doesn't even draw that muchThen it's a really bad space heaterWatt is a unit of heat flow for a reason, a space heater that draws 500W is never going to outperform a space heater that draws 1000W, that's like saying your 500ml glass can hold more liquid than your one liter glass. By the way this means that yes, a PC drawing 500W and a space heater drawing 500W are practically the same thing for the purposes of heating a room over a long period of time.
>>720406085Its even worse, they pay and teach acclaimed studios how to use their proprietary tech so they become standard and good for everyone in the industry's resumes.
>>720407107That tactic would be a lot less retarded if the product was actually good. Like if it didn't look like a blurry mess, that'd be nice. Maybe even worth buying expensive graphics cards for.
>>720407107It works because it's true. You ARE poor. If you were a trillionaire alpha male this would be a nonissue. Get grinding, bitch.
>>720406142Like what dickhead? The decline of the west or israel using our money to kill women and children in the middle east?
>>720407230Entertain me, show me where to buy this trillion dollar graphics card that plays this game at 120 FPS?
>>720406316physx status?
>>720406089no, the point of frames is to reduce input latency, not make it look smooth like a cheap TV, which is what nvidia's input lag generation does
>>720406615fun fact: Wilds got 10M the first month... it's been what, 5 months? and they got only an extra 0.6M sales in that time, which is why crapcom is shitting their pants, they invested way more money than in world and they got way less in exchange
>>720397032so if this guy has a 5090 and its not strong enough to run it at 60fps...what is strong enough?
>>720397032>4k DLAA with max settingsJust asking for trouble
>>720407291You ok over there lil gup?
>>720406314are you retarded?
>>720407381Probably one of those overpriced workstation GPUs that go for upwards of 20k
>>720407381duh just set your resolution to 720p and lock it to 24fps!
>>720407315> the point of frames is to reduce input latency,You do not need more frames to reduce input latency, reflex already halves 50% of total latency and reflex 2 with halve that into 75% As i said, if nvidia didnt fuck up 40 fps would feel exactly like 60 fps do
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1768650/Path_of_the_Abyss/Fun little dungeon crawler, it also lets you have your own custom images for your party
>>720407315>no, the point of frames is to reduce input latency, not make it look smoothyes it isyou can sample input at 1000Hz on a 60fps gameforza sampled input at 180Hz on the 360
>>720407469Those are not stronger than 5090s. For gaming anyway, they aren't intended for gaming.
>>720407301BL1 doesnt have physx, only 2 and PreSequel
>looks like shit>runs like shit>forced raytracing>$80>made by a pedophileYeah I think I'm not going to be buying Borderlands 4.
>>720402176Every single UE5 game didn't have the exact same problems regardless of developer, the engine is clearly at fault.
>>720407560oops, wrong thread
>>720407534and for the last time, im just explaining why all the recent devs releasing unreal engine 5 titles have been targetting 40 fps on powerful hardware. is because they believes nvidia so that was their optimization target
>>720406778>1080 60fps should be what devs should always aimIn 2025? Sure I still run 1080p despite a 7800x3d/7800xt built from last year. But most new system gamers are aiming for 1440p or very high muh esports fps gaming. That's not 1080/60I knew performance issues where going to get worse and worse as devs start to crutch up on frame generation. What should happen is devs optimize more and frame gen is an bonus fps bump if you want. The problem is devs treating frame Gen as the default mode to reach 60fps
>>720407592>>720407534nvidia's latency generator is shit tech for retarded normies that can't feel difference between 6.9ms of input lag and 40ms of input lag, you belong in this latter group.
>>720397032borderlands isn't supposed to be a graphically impressive game either, it really shouldn't be struggling this hardall they had to do was just raise some model fidelity and get some of the lower res textures in a higher resolution
>>720402176>It's not the engine>It's a coincidence that every single game ever made have the same problems!>It doesn't count that Epics own game on the engine also runs like shitYou are right that pajeets can't make games and don't understand how to optimize code.You fail to realize that those same pajeets also made the engine.
>>7204063534k didn't fucking exist when the GTX 680 was released
>>720404108>50+ fps on low on a 3050that doesn't seem too bad
>$600 console can run it>$1600 PC cant>People will defend this and attack YOU for asking why this stupidity is allowed.
>>720407889nvidia is evil, you can sample input at high rates without them retard
>>720402025It has more to do with the complexity of writing software increasing exponentially, imo.
>>720408051nvidia's latency generator is shit tech for retarded normies that can't feel difference between 6.9ms of input lag and 40ms of input lag, you belong in this latter group.
>>720408091i agree with you retard
>>720408091Again forza did it, the idea that you need higher fps for lower latency is retarded and shows that you are tech illiterate
>>720407889>waaaaah normiezz!! not like meee uber haxor!!!40ms lat is better than 4ms in games. for one simple reason, because it adds weight and is actually immersive as fuck. unless a game already uses some kind of camera smoothing method, then 40 ms > 4 all day.
>>720408190>the idea that you need higher fps for lower latency is retardedkek
>>720408091You know you can activate reflex without frame gen, right, anti lag from amd uses the same technology, this shit has nothing to do with frame gen but optimizing the pipeline between the frame are rendered.
>>720408249trying too hard
>>720404108WTF happened to Claptrap's voice? It sounds disgusting. I haven't played any borderlands since 2.
>>720408283Yes, the issue is the pipeline. You can have a system with 0.1 ms latency that renders at 1 frame per second theorically
>>720408320nvidia's latency generator is shit tech for retarded normies that can't feel difference between 6.9ms of input lag and 40ms of input lag, you belong in this latter group.
>>720397831>ps5 gods get 4kdoes he know?
>>720408375the issue is nvidia's latency generator is shit tech for retarded normies
>>720408382>retard is spamming the same shitrefllex and anti lag both reduce the input lag without generating any fake frames
>>720408364lol how about you go fuck yourself imbecile. why do you think smoothing exists? why do you think the best in class devs of the entire gaming industry added weight to camera movement system in rdr2? they went as far as adjusting the smoothness for both fps and third person view, where in fps view it was less smooth but still smooth enough which could be comparable to 80ms latency.
>>720408451yes keep on reducing your framerate for better latency with nvidia's latency generator
>>720397032
>>720408442are you retarded? for the last time im explainijng why the DEVS rre targetting 40 fps on recent releases. Reflex which already halves 50% PCL latency was supposed to reduce PCL latency up to 75% with the supposed magic tech warping tech nvidia promised and announced so 40 FPS would actually feel like 60 fps
>>720408375>>720408519>the idea that you need higher fps for lower latency is retardedkek
>>720397032How can it run this bad while still looking like a game from 2010?
>>720408498so you are just retarded. got it>>720408558there is actual computing system with 0.1 input latency and render frames ata 1 frames per second. They have been used on millitary tech since the 1960s
>>720408585ITY KLOOKS SO MUYC HB ETTER YOU FUCKING POOR SHITTER FUCKING BLIND POOSHITTER YTOUR MONITORS PROBABLY FROM 2010 YTOU RETARDED IDIOT NUFAG TRYING TO FIT IN MAKING HBATE THINGS DORSNT YOU COOL
>>720408732sup, Randy
>>720408585>2010racist pigwe had actual lookers back then
>>720402153Engines made inhouse specifically tailored for your game are obviously better than shitty third party engines meant to make anything.
>>720408370the original voiceactor got sexually assaulted by randy pitchford so they replaced himI'm not kidding
>>720408813IM NOTM E YOUF UCKING KEKOLD
>>720402915absolute idiot
>>720408820And it ran great.
>>720397358Cinematic experience. Human eye performs best at 24 FPS
>>720408916even with 2010's pathtraced reflections
>>720408870Ok, I had to look it up. At least the "sexually" part is thankfully not true.
>>720409028A MAN WHO NEVER EAT PORK BUN IS NEVER WHOLE MAN!
>>720409028>>720409224fucking love this game
>>720402176dangerously sane post
>>720397032>39 FPS with the best consumer CPU+GPU combination for gaming currently on Earth>Game looks about as good as Borderlands 2 on the Xbox 360BAD ASS
>>720402176ok but have you considered>randy bad?
>>720409615Beta testedIN THE FUTURE
Someone tell me how Shroud is getting 300fps?
>>7204098714x mfg lil brofor some weird jewish reason fake frames are counted by the fps counters
>>720409871meme frames/upscaling
>>720409871nasa pc from streamer moneythis is like asking, "how does a truck driver have such good tires?" like nigga its literally his job to have the best pc
>>720409871It's literally bullshit to make you feel less ripped off for buying a 5090.
>>720407789>>720407940Expedition 33 runs well despite being and Unreal 5 game and you can get the source code and make it so that the Unreal 5isms aren't a thing or even a big deal as a developer. But that would require the publisher (a) wanting to pay for that and (b) they would want to hire people that have Unreal engine knowledge to make that a realityPublishers are fucking retards that chase trends but don't know how games are made, so they think outsourcing and seasonal employment is a good idea instead of hiring people with experience in the field. It is not a mistake that gaming went to shit as soon as these types of people started leading game dev companies and started treating creative work like a 9-5 type job where uninterested normalfags make a product they don't know or care about. Not to absolve blame from the devs that act like this, but if gaming companies had better executives, the gaming ecosystem would be a lot healthier. You can honestly say that about most companies really.,>>720409675Fair enough.
>>720410136>Expedition 33 runs welllol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls4QS3F8rJU
>>720397032>4k badassffs randy
>>720410257>Threat IntertactiveOpinion ignored
>>720409871is this the guy that cries at the star wars trailers?
>>720397032okay now how much FPS do you get when you run it at 1080p native?
>>720410423not much more, 1080P native scored me 98 FPS with dips below 60 during combat with a 9800X3D + 5080
>>720410326>double spacing reddittard cum guzzling over ue5die for all i care
>>720410554Nice non-argument. You couldn't use more buzzwords if you tried, you actual retard.
>>720397032Is this on UE5?
>>720410326>>720410136Threat interactive is a giant retard, but Expedition 33 does look terrible in motion and was clearly designed around a lot of compromises.
graffixfags and their consequences have been a disaster for video games>I want to run at the absolute maximum possible settings with the absolute maximum resource intensive options enabled>I also want it to run at 286 fpspick one and only one
>>720410678Problem with that, Chuddie?
>>720410749it looks like dogshit, even with max settings though
>>720410768No Master Tim, your game engine running at 24fps at AI upscaled 4k which looks worse than native 1080p is marvelous, I can't think a single thing wrong with it.
>>720410624>opinion ignoredyeah nice non argument fucking tranny ywnbaw LMAO>>720410742another reddittard and also a poorfag. keep grinding that karma through the contributor program and maybe you'll receive enough shekels to not be an utter moron on the internet LMAO
>>720410749both were never a problem in 2015, demented ape>paid shills and women gamedevs at full force todayLMAO
>>720403720this
>>720397032consolechads just cant lose
>>720398113What's that in inches?
>>720402153>add in an "HD textures" free patch a year or two later.textures don't effect performance at all if you have enough vram
>>720397032what the genuine fuck happened to the original borderlands art style? this is the ugliest fucking game I've ever seen, it's like they aimed for photorealism and then slapped on a shader at the last minute.
>>720397032UE killed PC gaming
>>720409871>ska reduced to a c-tier streamer sucking off shroud's popularitydark days for /ourguy/
>Pick rafa>do starting area>get lit up every time I try to do melee skillalright, so that's fucked, are his other skills better? or do you need to build for them?
How many people are aware that DLSS and fake frames are moving to a subscription based model soon
>>720411747Shit balance. Enemies either die or kill you in .01 seconds or 100.
>>720405303Crysis looks better than borderlands 4.
WHY DOES IT LOOK LIKE SHITHOW DOES RANDY DO IT
>>720411753>Pay for internet>Pay for game>Pay for online access to game>Pay for ingame cosmetics>Pay for framerate boostWho is making the money to afford this?
>>720409871Playing at 1080p upscaled to 4k with framegen at max
>>720397032consoles are going to get sued
Post Deck Performance
>>720412017We in the first world don't make enough money to afford housing. However we can afford luxury goods while living with our parents.
>>720397358Should've used a 6000 ada pro poorfag
>>720397032BADASS
>109 countries? what the fucks wrong with all of them?
>>720397032>$5000Why are you so stupid? Mine's only worth $700 at best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx0HG7599Mglow settings on this looks pretty fucking awful (worse than bl3) but at least it's playable. i wonder if this is the switch 2 preset
>>720397032is that silent hill? why so much fog? is it a PS1 game?
>>720401703>all the gameslol how’s borderlands and snake eater working out for ya? imagine not playing gta 6 too
>>720415709>Buying a shitty remake of kojimaslop without kojima.
>>720403828>trash >84 on metacritic oof
>>720397032Performance issues have been debunked. A 3060 is good for 1080p 60fps on medium settings
>>72040383984 on metacritic>>720404075runs fine on console
>>720415874
>>720415893>84Yes. One point above Starfield is verified trash.
>>720404235or you could be smart and just play on console where it runs fine
>>720415709>lol how’s borderlandsruns exactly the same as console, i dont get where this delusion comes from>and snake eateri haven't checked> imagine not playing gta 6 tooI'll be playing the better version a year later like GTA 5, oh nooo
>>720397358>>it's not the devs, it's a YOU problemEven fucking UE5 says that it's a Dev problem lmao.I love how people will shill for companies and devs like they're personally fucking them.>In a world of 200+ hz monitors and 144 fps being like night and day, a top of the line 2000 dollar grafix card barely hitting 60 fps without DLSS is actually ok since it's 60 fps bro.It's not fucking 2012 anymore. 60 fps is the absolute barest of minimums and only hitting that with top of the line hardware on high is fucking embarrassing.144 should be the average period for middling hardware on medium, and medium on modern games should look like max on older games.God I hate india and lumen. Also fuck epic for shilling Lumen so much.
>>720415893>runs fine on consoleGames pretty heavily cpu bound on pc, it's not going to be able to do even 60fps on console.
>>720415938>>720415874>frame gen and upscaling onThat looks like absolute shit, nice try Randy
>>720407654And you can turn off 2 physx anyways.Also 2 looks really fucking good for a game of it's time
>>720397358i genuinely believe it's not the devs fault at this point, UE5 has to be just that fucking bad. literally every release has been a disaster for performance no matter the game
>>720397938must be a small space heater, most are 1500W at max due to the limit you can draw continuously (in the US at least)
>>720397358Surprised we haven't heard "it's for cinematic experience" a la The Order 1886 fiasco from back in the day.
>>720415829it’s a good remake and kojima didn’t make the mgs games by himself yknow
>>720416076N1gger you know that it's not using framegen
>>720416052i played it and it runs at a smooth 60fps on the base ps5
>>720405324>>720405919The problem is jeets. Shitty devs with easy-to-use tools means shitty optimization.
>>720416254>The problem is jeetsWho's hiring those jeets?
>>720402153Doom 3 on max settings still looks better than most games released today and certainly better than Bordershit 4.
>>720416245Post the graph then or at least a video snippetPeople said the same about sh2 and mgsv and it turned out they were somehow under-performing if anything compared to the usually equal pc parts. Neither was actually able to hold 30, let alone 60
>>720406316my piece of shit RX 570 gets around 90 FPS at 1080p with Physx. It doesn't go much bellow that but it also only goes above it if I look straight up into the sky or straight down to the floor.
>>720415874>>720415938did you actually watch his video? the guy said it's pretty fucking rough even when there's only like 2-3 npc's in a hallway or simple room. there's still traversal stutters as usual with UE5.
>>720402153Not a single game has made foliage look good as Crisis's foliage did yet.
>>720397032i fucking love kino fog
>>720416363(((who))) indeed
>>720397032>You're a poorfag if you can't run afford a system that runs this at 60fps native>Can you run a system that runs this at 60fps native?> I:> I:<
>>720408375except when your input happens in the middle of the current frame in which case you would have at most 1 second of latency, which is what happens to real time graphics in general.
>Borderlands 4 doesn't really look like a current-gen title thanks to the art style, lacks PhysX or any overly fancy shit>pulling top end graphics cards like the 5090 at the Badass setting (which isn't even the highest you can set shit; there's further graphics settings) at 1080p>it drags a DLSS game down to 60-80 FPS in the open world proper, especially in combat, despite the AI not actually doing anything all that amazing or specialJesus christ, this doesn't even look substantially different from BL3, and shit like Destiny is running goddamn Blam! from the Bungie Halo days beneath all that paint and still does large areas and content with barely a dropped beat. Gearbox really just built their shit on top of UE5 and didn't even bother one iota to try to make this not run like shit, figured people could brute force it or the consoles were good enough at upscaling. But even UE5 games don't typically shit the bed this bad without being an Immortals of Avenum scenario of particles and explosions and shit flying everywhere. What the FUCK happened here?
>>720417225whoops, 1440p, not 1080p, but DLSS upscaled so really not much difference overall
>>720417225I mean it's nice devs give you retard settings even if they're retarded and shouldn't be used. The game on high the issue is mostly cpu requirements
>>720415874>medium settingsa stylized game should not be this unoptimized
>>720417464Just play the game on high and the gpu performance issues are mostly gone.
HAHAHAHA SHE WORKED RETAILGET ITLMAO
>>7204175825090 averages 80fps with upscaling on high preset anon. Per JackFrags video. Do you suffer from profound mental retardation?
>>720417954that char design holy fuck>what if we took white nigga, mexican nigga, nigger nigga, gook nigga and combined bits and pieces of it into 1 characterdeislop overload
>>720418092we don't sign our posts here
>>720404661a price filter to prevent thirdies, /v/tards, and compfags (who, aside from streamers, are too poor to afford top-of-the-line hardwire because they play vidya and rot instead of work)? sign me the fuck up
>>720418172>elitist gatekeeper over generic western AAA slop fpsnigga what are you doing
>>720417954
none of the heroes appeal to me
>The biggest to smallest companies just cant make UE5 games not be total unoptimized shitYeah its definitely the devs man
>>720418361its incredible, the hardest choice wasn't which one to pick but the fact that i had to pick one of them
>>720397358You Idiot, if you want games made nowadays to run decently, you need specs that will only be available 10 years in the future. And in games made 10 years later will need specs that will only be available 20 years in the future. It has always been like that. Games nowadays aren't created with today's hardware in mind, that that has been true for decades.Don't believe me. Sonic Unleashed ran terribly on the 360 & PS3, it only took today's hardware and a PC decompile to finally get a smooth running port.
>ryzen 7 7800x3d>32 gigs ram>4070 super>TSR quality upscailing with reflex boost>shadows/fog/lighting at medium>texture quality at low>everything else maxed outGetting around 75fps in heavy combat scenarios. DLSS frame gen just flat out doesnt work and TSR gives me 10 extra frames over DLSS for some reason.
>>720409871So aimbot makes your pc run better?
>>720408370>>720408870>>720409212at least it's not Jack Black
>>720418453The Finals runs surprisingly well for what it is, but that is borderline indie for former BF devs fucking off to do their own thing on their own terms. This isn't just a skill issue, it's a studio, publisher and other sort of issue all around. These games just do not get the time in the oven they need, and college hires are trained to just throw bullshit in UE5 without much thought, so people who don't know their shit are doing this in swaths. And that's not even accounting for how much outsourcing modern AAA games do.
>>720397032>Fucking PS2 graphicsBack to 16 bit machines NOW
>>720397032Damn, what absolute garbage. I don't even understand what the fuck is going on in that scene to run that shit, it doesn't even look impressive in any way.
>>720418261nah that's the black chick harloweshe looks like shit
>>720419015open world which probably means culling issues or some shit processing somewhere off-screen that genuinely shouldn't be that bad.
works on my machine
>>720419165
>>720419142Yeah it could be something like that, though we've had so much open world shit that such issues aren't excusable.
>>720419270EXCUSE MEFRAMEGEN
Why did this need to be UE5? Looks identical to 2.
>>720419304Imagine using frame gen at 30FPS. That shit's like Steam Deck levels of desperation. If you're going to use that shit you should have at least 60 real FPS.
>>720419165lmao>30 to 60 FGkeep up with this and i'll come to kazakhstan to fuck your sister
>>720419376>>720419395retards
>>720419376>>720419395that steam ui is retarded and so are youI don't use framegen but when I turn it on it displays the same stupid shit 60/30 even thought I run at 60 without it
>>720419576Nah it doesn't, I tested it too and what you're saying is not true. It's accurate in displaying when FG is in use. It even switches dynamically if the game turns FG off and on while running (some games turn it off in menus). Eat shit, lying bootlicker.
do people still use the term badass?
>>720419349you can't ask that out loudget inside the car
>>720404392UE5 slop wishes it could look half as good as Crysis 3
>>720416972No, how the fuck do you think millitary radar and real time tracking system work retard, computer system with minimal latency input and graphical rendering capabilities have existed since before AT/AT got split, the issue is the pipeline consumer hardware use and its not even down to the GPU but the x86 based vs arm64 funnily enough network card and most of the hardware that operates in the ethernet eco-system already operate at minimun latency and those require real time input when being heavily monitored in real time.
>>720418863The Finals is running on modified custom fork of UE5 made by Nvidia and Embark lol. Every single time theres "optimized" UE5 game its on modified fork or straight up doesnt use nanite/lumen or has below default values like Expedition 33. You can look up default Nanite values in UEs SDK and its 1.0 while E33 is on fucking 0.3 lol.
>>720404827Direct capture instead of from your shitty monitor?
>>720419304>framegenenjoy the vaseline and smearing i guess
>>720420058>let me move the goalpost
>>720406068I went to /feg/ for a bit and it was exactly like that. I don't understand why.
>>720420219Stay delusional then thinking all devs are super amazing savants who cant do wrong.
bitchy femdom enjoyers won
>>720397032isn't this just borderlands 2?
Gorgeous game
Meanwhile a 500 dollar PS5/Series X can run it fine enough
>>720420684am I a blind nigga if I think this looks a lot like BL3?
>>720420301>>720420058that just means someone actually got the time to bother to do their own thing, it doesn't disprove the original post. if anything that proves that less people should just be using lumen and nanite as if expecting it to run perfectly.
>>720403479sadly the destruction calculations is all run serverside, so that kind of optimization would only be profitable for a multiplayer game.still its fucking nuts, I got it to run solidly on a shitty work laptop, though at a really low resolution
>>720416376All Doom 3 really needed was just higher polygon count on its meshes, especially on the human heads, as an option for its launch version. The texture work still hold up to this day.
>>720420684If you told me this was BL2 with the HD texture DLC installed, I would have believed you.
Funny. Games are supposed to adjust to PC and not the other way around. Why? Only Allah knows that.
LMAO BRUH IT BE LOOKING LIKE BORDERLANDS 2 BUT HAVE SHIT FRAMERATE
>>720420684>compass clutter garbage instead of minimapim puking in my mouse
>>720419715what are you babbling about
I'll be the first to say it.I'd fuck Harlowe in his zesty ass.
There he isour beloved fan favorite
>>720397032from the screenshot thumbnail it looks like a game from the 2000s.
>>720397032Holy shit look at that draw distance, unreal sucks
>>720402176>points at (you)
>>720421914>No no the writing is better, it's like borderlands 1 again!>The writing:
>>720410554So-called reddit spacing has nothing to do with reddit as it has existed since the 90s at least.
Let's fucking go
just play at 1080p and everything works>but-i dont care
>>720421302borderlands 2 looked way better than that
>>720422216he bought?
>>720422192I'd be fine with claptrap being insufferable if you could actually fuck him up with bullets/melee, and just grab off him whatever you need to open up the next scripted-door or whatever.
>>720401784We've reached the limits of hardware. The next big thing will be quantum computing.
>>720422216>he boughted
>>720404302Fine, i gonna buy another 10 copies of silksong because it makes you mad.
How much is this like bl3? I played 1,2, and 1.5 nonstop for the last decade but hated 3 and tina.
>>720401784None of these tards know how to code, they're all going to the same engine because they're all glorified modders
There's barely any visual differences between DLAA(native) and Performance mode
>>720422649
Valorant was upgraded to UE5 and it runs BETTER than it did on UE4.Its only the developers fault if a game runs like shit.
>>720422834Apparently it isn't forked, either. They just put in the time and work to directly convert without trying to swipe in UE5 graphical features slathered over top of it because it's still trying to be a competitive game.
>>720416106>bf6
>>720422649>>720422709
>>720397032damn borderlands 2 got a new dlc
>$70>UE5>Denuvothe trifecta of slop
>>720422834UE5 is faster than UE4 when you use it as UE4.If you use baked lighting on it somehow it's probably a fucking rocket that can run on the steam deck at full res 60 FPS.
>>720422463>>720422531Gunplay is incredibly fun actually
>>720420684Looks like BL3
why dont you show the framerates, screenshot nigga
>visuals peaked a decade ago>games still look the same>but all new games run like shit nowcould it be modern engines or the lack of white developers?
>Intel Arc B580 on the recommended GPU list>it runs at sub 30 FPS at 1080p>meanwhile the battlefield 6 beta ran at 120 FPS on ultra at 1440p with no frame gen/ai slopBAD ASS, THANK YOU RANDY
>>720423258It's still white developers, but their minds are poisoned with far shit poltics.If you're spending all your mental power getting deranged by the current president or thinking on how to shove propaganda into the game, or triggered by some dude that just don't give a fuck, you can't work, you can't produce.
That’s not that bad.
>>720422921battlefield 6 is on the frostbite engine
>>720423389Man, if it was that simple then we'd have lefts or rights or whoever the fucks having strong corners somewhere, but no politics are coming out worth a damn for games. It's the brain drain. The old talent ushered out, getting the fuck out, or straight up just taking an early retirement in favor of college kids that get baby's first guidebook for UE5 and the blueprint basics, and get thrown into the industry like bodies at a No Man's Land for solving problems by filling the gaps with glue, duct tape and dying dreams.
>>720422834wow fresh take niggerfaggotriot is worth more than epic and they use the mobile toolset for all platforms which is why the game looks like shit. 1 dev managed to make a game run above 200 fps, now what?
>>720410136Looks perfect. Gold standard. All games should look like this.
>>720422649Are you whipping the camera for both examples so we see how they're resolving shit in motion? DLAA means fuck-all for a mostly static shot.
>>720423698No ghosting really but game runs like shit
>>720423621This also.Raytracing is still waiting John Carmack to show how to use it well.But it's not happening.
>>720423802Well, that's the cleanest image I've seen of the game yet, and I'm still baffled at the shit performance, while you get anti-soul gas from 20ft away.It's not like the game is doing anything special there. Props just clipping through the environment hap-hazardly (pipes on the building, the tree in the back-right distance). I'm going to bet they just leaned really fucking hard on Nanite for everything.
>>720397032Takes me back to 2012.
>>720397938>t. european
>>720402176>it's current year chud accept your slop
>>720423941>full openworld without zone loading screens>UE5>Lumen>extensive post processing effect when use elemental guns or blow up shit
>>720424157Open world shouldn't mean shit, especially on modern hardware where we have the excess RAM kicking around to keep extra detailed distant LODs in memory while streaming in more detailed chunks of land around the player to blend into it.
>>720423802Borderlands doesn't even look like Borderlands anymore.This looks like a chink bootleg, the only thing that distinguishes it is Claptrap.
>>720423860Honestly I can't even hate on Lumen by itself because when used competently it's a surprisingly lightweight solution that mostly just has problems with reflections and foliage shadowing or slow updates. But when your entire game depends on Lumen because you stripped out the baked shadows in favor of the lighting and GI solution that does the work for you, shit gets so absolutely fucked like what happened to MGS Delta on its low/off settings, and because most devs are retards, they're not using Lumen correctly and relying on it for EVERYTHING which fucks performance in its own ways.This example image is kind of a bad marker by the way because they do that shit too now; all Fortnite does in low graphics is run a single light from the sun, no more baked lighting anymore, and if you're on performance even that light goes away.
>>720424269what?
>>720424272Meanwhile here's what happens when you peel back the graphics to low on Delta because the retards just tied all lighting/global illumination to Lumen. Not a great image capture, but literally no lighting. And a Steam Deck or ROG Ally still can't get good framerates at native resolution with this shit off.
>>720423663>the hub area is literally fucked and everyone who played the game will see thistim sweeney is such a fucking ape
>>720397032The UE5 experience.
>>720424272The dumb thing about Lumen in your examples, is the main differentiating factor is the blown out edges on the lit areas, which they could easily do on the non-Lumen implementation.
>>720397612look at him go
>>720424421Art-wise.
>>720424478
>>720397358Its a dev issue. UE5 is just a engine.
>>720424534The example comes from Fortnite where whole structures explode and people build things on the fly, so a dynamic tracing/GI solution like what The Finals does isn't a bad idea, and it escapes some of the old limitations with baked lighting. That is probably the main reason why IdTech introduced its own equivalent with shit like Indiana Jones and Doom TDA, since it probably saves on render time for huge maps and lets you blow apart objects or have destructibles all over that don't have clashing lighting or some shit.But it also means the tech requirement to even play shit raised significantly for very little tangible or necessary benefit but destruction that isn't even like, Red Faction Geomod shit. THAT would be a smart implementation of such a solution.
>>720397129More like 110fps below playable.
>be billion dollar game developer>bunch of NEET neckbeards on 4chan know betterMany such cases!
>>720424697Funny enough, The Finals uses an nVidia fork of UE5 better made for performance reasons on the Lumen end, to the point my ancient 1060gtx can get 90fps+ on average during chaos.Meanwhile every other modern UE5 game makes that old GPU fucking cry without aggressive upscaling from sub-1080p.
>>720424809wait, so even development is pay to win now?
>>720424798Yes.
>>720410742>>720423663I never said anything about it looking good. I said it ran well. It still has the typical UE5isms, but at least it isn't raping my GPU while doing it.
It makes no sense how a stylized game like borderlands runs this badly, it doesn't chase GRAPHICS.
>>720397656Why would you lie so blatantly.
>>720424960The black outlines in 2 were and still are performance crushers.You're easily pulling a noticeable amount of extra frames when you disable them.
>>720424798modern video game companies are completely fucking delusionalIf they had developed this shit on UE4 to allow more leeway for all their terrible code + made the game 20 bucks these retards would have had 2 million concurrent players day 1.
Guns feel right
>>720424269Gunfire Reborn is the chink bootleg of Borderlands...and it looks better than this.
>>720424845Always has been
>>720425084>Stripper clip loaded from the sideAre the bullets being forced into the bottom? Did the people who designed the new Jakobs (I'm assuming it's a Jakobs) not look at real guns to see how they work?
I don't see what the problem is, I hit 75 fps on a 3080ti, I've got a QHD ultrawide though, not 4K but according to Steam surveys 60% of yall use a 1920x1080 poorfag monitor anyway.
>>720425362that is a very powerful graphics card
>>720425164Let's not pretend Borderland guns were ever the pinnacle of realism.
>>720424798>STOP QUESTIONING THINGS GOYIM
>>720425417it's not top of the line, meanwhile everyone is complaining you need CERN to run this game. What?
>>720425164It's Borderlands, it's the one series I will give a pass on retarded guns for because they never made much sense.>akimbo pistols that reload by throwing them to explode at someone as you pull more out
>>720397358"jewish cock in your ass is actually a GOOD thing"
>>720425164the magazines used to be wheel rims
>>720425164That one looks to be based on the Johnson M41, which is loaded by charger clips from a port in the side, so it's not inaccurate.
>>720420481more like sex
>>720397358this. hell is us and expedition 33 run really well for ue5 slop.
Maliwan went full alien looking aesthetic
>>720419715bro it always shows half your fps is you use framegen so if he was playing at 120fps it would show 60
>>720425417it's mid range. 5070 is better.
>>720425858they dont. robocop and talos principle 2 run good.
>>720397358big companies and asian ones can't into optimizationI've noticed it's the smaller teams that have them run well
>>720426012>they don'tyes they fucking doI get 120fps in both without dlss or framegen
>>720425926so they stole hyperion's schtck
>>720425858E33 is fucking blurry though. Haven't touched Hell is Us though.
>>720426012robocop runs well because it looks like a ps3 game lmao
>>720426132it said it ran welllearn to read
>>720426167>it looks like a ps3 game lmaoso does borderlands 4
>>720426226yeah but it has much larger areas with more shit to render
>>720423802I feel that they aren't using culling
>>720426071u dont
>>720426481fuck off retard
>>720425858>Always used upscaling>Run wellAre you subhuman, aren't you?
>>720426672dumb ape starts calling unoptimized games optimized the moment they get framegen patches lmao
>>720404108How badly from a range of "doable but painful" to "ngmi" would a 1070 run it, assuming lowest possible settings? I can't seriously fathom it being impossible to really run when I can run 3 at max settings on 1080p.
>>720427015>24GB VRAMDo you load-in the entire game? What needs that much memory?
>>720397656yeah and you're running lighting on low which is the bare minimum/disabled RT setting. With upscaling and/or frame gen enabled because the 4070 cannot pull such numbers otherwise. Disingenuous nigger.
>>720397335A 1080Ti run this at 4k better lmao
>>720397831>ps5 gods get 4k
>>720427024I literally said I didn't need framegen you fucknut
>>720427015I literally said I didn't you fuckwit. You have even played the game.
>>720427015you didn't play the game
>>720427015>>720427024retards who haven't even played either game
>>720427015>needed to Google this because he talks shit about games he hasn't played
