FUCK FUCK FUCK
>>720397827What is the deal with that locked bell-house deep inside Deep Docks? It's not something dumb like "you need to wear both bell charms to enter", right?
>>720397882You are going through the spa, right?Also don't forget to jump in dining hall at the beginning to get the the guy, I almost broke it on the door once
>find a secret pathway>wow I wonder what's inside, I can't wait for my reward!>OOPS LOL YOU NEED WALL JUMP, MAKE SURE TO COME BACK IN A DOZEN HOURS OF GAMEPLAY IF YOU REMEMBER TO VISIT THIS PLACE (alongside the other 11 secret pathways that also require double jump in act 1!!!)
>shakra doesn't show up in a lot of new areas>you end up just buying maps from generic stands>even when she does show up sometimes she doesn't sing>last stag replaced with a big worm that doesn't even talkThey've removed so much soul that was in the first game..
>>720397827FA RI DU LA SI MA NETDO NI PUA NA VO LI NETPI NA SA MI MA NI SETDA NA FAN SU LU BON
>>720397827Man some of these gauntlets you unlock later reall feel like they're meant for when you've got more upgrades because FUCK that fucking gauntlet that is hidden in the Far Fields. I can't even beat the fucking enemies never mind the fucking lava escape you need to do after.
>>720397951it's an act 3 thing, you can't miss it. If you're in act 2 just ignore it
>>720397963That's what markers are for
>>720397951Act 3
>>720397963And people complained about backtracking in Hollow Knight.(Just to be clear I also think it's incredibly gay and tedious after like 4 zones)
>>720397951I was wondering that too.The real debate is who to give the broken weaver tool for.I found 2 people who will do it, one in underworks in the mech room and obviously deep docks smith, but it doesn't say what either does only that they add a personal flair or whatever
>>720397963put a marker on your map niggerand it's literally in the fast travel room so i don't wanna hear you complain about having to backtrack either
>>720398024GIT GUD
final boss and ending were kinda shitit was nice to see knight thoanyway gay ending and gay title screen unlockeddlc when
>>720397963>double jumpI think you might be a little stupid, anon? In what universe would a second jump make you reach the top of this, you rucking retard?
>>720397963>I hate metroidvanias!!!ok
>>720398069there are actually three outcomes for the broken tooli will not say more than that though
>>720398024i found that one is tolerable after unlocking double jump
yoharpoon has iframes
>>720397930there are a couple of rooms with those guys; ive found the outside section with the rooftops, is it near there?
>>720398115learn to read dumbass
>>720398162I can't think of a third smith besides the nail polisher guy and he won't do it.Still trying to get everything out of act 2 before I move on anyway, so probably will be a while
I love nuu
Pharloom>benches are one-time use only, they eject you and demand more money if you want to use them again >no hot springs, no trams, no public service>shit economy that creates a huge division between rich and poor, everyone below the Citadel is a bum left to fend for themselves>message from the ruling class: a confession you have to pay for, which shames and chides you even if you're free of sin>the ruler of the land essentially harvests its subjects for raw materials>so many buzzsaws and spikes and thorns everywhere that if you ever drop your rosaries, you'll never get them back>even some tiny critters do 2x or stunlock you in 1+1 damage animations>areas like Sinner's Road and Bilewater are absolute hellholes of monsters, fatally toxic air and waterHallownest>most benches are free, buying access to a paid bench grants access forever>public hot springs, trams, the living standards between different areas are consistent and similar>economy so stable that it still lasts even after the kingdom completely fell apart>messages from the ruling class: support, guidance, promises of safety and salvation>the ruler will protect his people at any cost, he'd sooner sacrifice his own sons than harm his royal subjects>Buzzsaw festival is only in the White Palace, the rest of the kingdom is constructed safely>one mask damage most of the time - 2x only from giant enemies, heavy explosions, or godlike creatures>the worst possible area is the Royal Waterways just because it's kind of smellyRETVRN TO THE TRVE BVG KINGDOM
>>720395748>but then for some reason gm silk loves lace so much suddenly that she's able to survive in the void (???) to protect her and for some reason her living in the void is making everything worse?Granny Silk always loved Lace. That was neither new nor sudden.In fact much was sacrificed for Lace's sake. Not necessarily for Pharloom's greater benefit, but at least for Lace's subsistence.And though Lace surely harbours some affection for her mother and isn't just full of spite or hatred or anything. Considering how Lace was described as living as a guardian of Pharloom, even if at the detriment to most of its citizens, but presumably in order to live up to the role given to her by her mother. Presumably to please her or make her proud.But evidently. It's also obvious that Lace wasn't happy. Felt stifled and restricted by said role. Or eve Pharloom at large. And she felt her instable existence to be harrowing and dreadful, and further demoralized by her senior sibling's much worse state.In short it's clear that Lace and Silk did not understand each other. And though Silk loves Lace, Lace wanted to be "free" however that was to be defined.So it's clear that there was already tension between Lace and Silk even before Hornet's arrival. But Hornet's capture does escalate things. It appears like Lace is assuming that Silk might be aiming to replace her with Hornet, similarly to how the other weavers were replaced by Phantom and Lace. Since Hornet is special. A weaver like Lace's predecessors, but also a pale being like Silk herself. So it seems like Lace simultaneously harboured resentment towards Hornet from the get go. And probably even jealousy since Hornet was "free". But it also seems like Lace kind of enjoyed how Hornet were shaking things up and destabilizing Silk's order, which would align with Lace's rebellious desires.
>>720397963If only mankind had discovered ways to store information to access it when needed.
>>720397963first metroidvania?
>>720398109Retard>>720398203Yeah that's what I thought. Playing the floor is lava(cause it is) with a bunch of flying cunts who want to fly just out of reach is not fun but at least the double jump would optimise air time. I also think I'll wait until I get the oil from the capital too.
>>720395748>>720398287And when Lace saves Hornet from Silk, she outright claims that was her final act of rebellion, but it makes sense since the act robs Silk of Hornet, as if Lace wouldn't let Silk to have her. Saving Hornet's life, instead sinking to her doom alongside her mother. So that instead of Hornet being claimed, she'd be the only one to run free, with Silk falling. And Lace already felt doomed, she presumably didn't feel much resistance to the idea of falling down with her.Hornet's actions towards Lace also make a fair amount of sense I'd claim. Not only did Lace save Hornet's life, so to some degree she probably feels a bit indebted. But more than that I imagine that Hornet likely feels some degree of kinship with Lace. Both Hornet and Lace are the princesses of their respective kingdoms. Both are daughters of pale beings, who have lived long, cursed existences not by their own choice.And since Hornet is hopeful unlike the doomer Lace, she likely wants to believe that Lace can be saved just like she'd like to hope that she herself could live true.That's my take on it all at least. Seems plausible to me. Makes sense I'd say. Don't know if I missed or misinterpreted something, but the way I understand it I am not particularly confused.
Shakra is a fucking filter holy shit. She's the fastest boss in the game. Literally almost no downtime between attacks. I see one or two openings but fucking hell she just moves nonstop and has projectiles damn
>>720398335no, this is my last metroidvania
>>720397965>in one zone hornet just draws the entire map herselfthis was possible the whole time?
>>720398235I can't remember exactly but you know those ladder like things that let you wall jump up them, it's one of those just barely visible sticking out of the roof, it leads to the hole in the First Shrine so it should be around there
>>720398287Yeah Mother Silk and Lace are clear inversions of Pale King and THK.No Cost too Great but the other way around.His one beloved son for the kingdom. And in Silksong, the kingdom for her beloved daughter.
>>720398284god i miss hallownest so bad. It’s telling how in fartloom the citadel is at the very top crushing everything beneath it. And Hallownest, the palace is at the very bottom, the city on top signifying the weight of the kingdom on the royal’s shoulders.
>Heretic key only gets you a meager treasureThat's it? Tell me this wasn't all. I am very disappointed with the Slab if so.
>>720398259so this dude is a snail, but a different snail species than the shaman snails?
>>720398352her melee moves are very punishable
>>720398428Look around more :)
>>720398352I beat her using the memory shard and a bunch of the bug summons and tacks.I fully rested at the hot spring to fill up silk then just let her kill herself on my clones (I intentionally took 1 damage attacks at times to get the memory shard clones out) and focused on dodging with only a cheeky hit here and there.
>>720398428You have all 3 keys? You can fight the secret boss if so.
It took me 30 hours to reach act 2. Am i shit or is that typical? I feel like im shit at the game but I like it anyhow.
>>720398428anon there are three heretic doors
>>720397827i love her!
Man, there better be a Lace III in act 3. Hyped for the rematch all game and she's a total jobber. Only boss since act 1 I got first try. Give me a proper rival fight man.
>DUDE JUST MAP MARKER IT>(ignores that theres only two types of map markers and a dozen different locking mechanisms for each secret, and you're limited in how many map markers you can place so by the end of act 1 you've already dumped all 20 map markers and don't know what any of them actually mean)
>>720398284i kneel to the pale king
Where do you get the third silk heart? Does it happen automatically? I'm pretty late into Act 3.
>>720398435Feels more like a hermit crab
>>720398518It took me about 35 to get into act 3, so that's doing 100% of act 1 and 2 content.
>>720398418got it; id tried jumping on that before but on the wrong side kek. thanks anon
>>720398501I really don't want to cheese her because of warrior's honor or whatever but damn. I'll try a few more times
>>720398110>7 years>still unfinishedLOL
>>720398284>>benches are one-time use only, they eject you and demand more money if you want to use them againthis one room mind broke so many players>no hot springsyes there are, and not just the flea one
>>720398350>>720398287>>720398420question lorebroswas lace laughing or crying in the finale?my personal interpretation is she was crying or holding back tears through whimpered laughter because while she did despise silk, she still wanted her affection and she only realized that in the very end when her mother sacrificed herself to save heror am i offbase and she was just laugjing because shes a broken psycho
>>720398636why haven't the kickstarter backers sued yet
>>720398561There simply aren't that many things you can't access on first approach in act 1. Sounds like you're marking stuff for later that you could do now if you looked around a bit more.
>>720398549It took you two tries for even the chef?Even for easy stuff like him?Some bosses would take 2 tries because I ran into the room with barely any health or got ambushed but apart from first sinner most bosses in act 2 haven't taken many tries beyond like 2
>>720398287>In fact much was sacrificed for Lace's sakeexamples or is this just head canon
>>720398606you missed a boss in whiteward
>mfw the Slab
>>720398636Reminder that this fucking in the middle is a kickstarter boss that STILL hasn't gotten in lmao.Meaning we know what DLC we're getting.
>hard filtered by karmelita>decide to try another boss>hard filtered by flame father>decide i need the needle upgrade to make it easier>hard filtered by flea dodgehow did it make i even make it this far
>>720398561There's way more types of map markers you just haven't unlocked them yet. Stop talking about the game when you don't know anything about it yet. It's a massive game
>>720398606Mandatory boss. Just keep playing.
>>720398758simon says
>>720397957Honestly I feel like the trick is to just not panic. I just tried it, got hurt retardedly, tried again, and then did it. I'm pretty sure I also didn't take any gimmicky secret route or anything, I just ran left through Shellsomething and then up where the evil white flowers are, then up the blasted steps. I even got hit twice and I did it with time to spare. They were really generous with this one, all things considered.
>>720398758You just repeat the pattern back
>>720398629It's not cheese if she has better movement than you and more health.
Please bros tell me the best tools/crests to deal with multiple enemies/adds, I know I'm bad at the game and old and retarded but I fucking can't follow the erratic movements of multiplle enemies on screen, I get filtered at the beastfly which has the most pathetically telegraphed attacks and I take zero hits until it starts spwaning trash mobs, I get filtered at the fucking crow room where I can't keep track of those niggers flying randomly while the other one throws knives.Zero issues platforming and pogoing everywhere, and minimal death to single bosses, and yet I can't see tow attack patterns at the same time.
>>720398759Fug forgot image.The game is teasing a City of Iron/Steel.
>>720398352Don't forget about your grapple. Use that to close the distance when she does her melee attacks
so the third game would be about lace right?
>>720398658Laughing I am pretty sure. Probably because she is now free.Losing her mother might be bitter sweet, but remember that she drew the blade on her mother first. A rebellious and maybe hasty act sure, but Lace was feeling stifled by Pharloom's haunting and the curse of her being. And her mother was at the core of it all. But I am basing this read primarily on how I think the sound sounds a fair bit more like laughter than crying. But I'll admit that the sounds be surprisingly similar at times and I wouldn't confidently claim that it couldn't be crying. Just doesn't sound like it to me.
>>720398831just fucking try your tools until you find one you like
>>720398776Flea Juggle is the hardest of the 3 minigames sorry.
>>720398725Not that anon but the chef took me the most tries out of any act 2 boss
>>720398831Don't underestimate tools in general.
>>720398831>crow roomBuy the trap from forge daughter.
>wears red>has lanterns everywhere>has little tents in the background>Hidden area>called fire bugs>actually has literally nothing to do with Grimm its just a coincidence :)Pretty fucking gay desu
>>720398561There's 5 markers
>>720398616Do they give you your total deaths at the end of the game? I feel like im gonna be well into the thousands
>>720398864Nah, in the third one we'll play some swaggy chrome insect.
>>720398518It took me 17 hours but I am decently quickl
Please help with Widow second phase. First phase isn't bad but there's just too much shit flying around the second phase for me to stand any chance in hell.
>>720398740>examples or is this just head canonThere are texts detailing all the weavers kidnapped and milked dry just to keep lace alive.
>>720398831the circular blast silk ability pretty much one shots flying enemies if you're close enough
>>720398831wandererwith needle upgrades you can spam attack things and half their attacks will get auto parried by your fast attacksmakes gauntlets very easy in late game, you just face tank them and you get more than enough silk from your hits to heal back any damage you took
>>720398712>There simply aren't that many things you can't access on first approach in act 1.
i just wanna say that i really love the game but i fucking hate how i don't know where to go, i'm 26 hours in the game, bosses aren't too hard and just take me a few tries sometimes, but the biggest obstacle is knowing where to go
it's *NOT* possible to get into the cogwork upper part for the melody using any jump combo right? i do have double jump
you know what? maybe this game is comfy if I'm so bad that half my playtime is farming
>>720398350>it makes sense since the act robs Silk of Hornet, as if Lace wouldn't let Silk to have hermakes no sense. makes slightly more sense the other way, not walking SILK to have HORNET because she's jealous of hornet, but even that is done because they'd both be doomed to the void anyway and it's not like lace gives a shit about saving pharloomalso didn't address why gm silk having lace with her lets her live in the void and ruin the kingdom, but taking lace away without even finishing off silk somehow resolves the issue
>>720398979Just stay in the right corner. Bells won't hit you and just pogo off him when he slashes. You'll take 0 dmg im serious.
>>720398984You have to beat the crow room to get that
About 10 hours in and i still don't know what the main theme of the game isi know i'm retarded but HK1 drilled that into me much earlier
what’s the deal with the hidden green fat bug statue in the vaults?
>>720398864I hope we get an entirely new protagonist and a kingdom near its peak
>>720398501>bug summons>clones??? how does one learn this power
Hey lads, I'm back. Took the week off /v/ to avoid spoilers, went through the entire game almost completely blind. I just had to look up how to get to Act 3 because it felt very arbitrary. And those last fleas were a pain to find. Overall greatest thing I've got spoiled on was the name, but that's fine. Clocked out at 61 hours and 89% completion, I'll probably use a guide for the rest. I think it's my GOTY.What happenings did I miss in Silksong threads?
>>720399028if you have hookshot, double jump, and dash, then you can access all of the melodies
>>720399028There's a door, why does everyone miss it (I did too)
>>720398658>>720398872Thematically for true tragedykino, Lace should be crying there. But yes, we only ever hear her laugh and it sounds very muck like her giggles.But then again, Team Cherry made Sherma sing scared in Whiteward if you Needolin'd him. So I think while she was laughing there's a hint of sadness with how subdued it sounded. Not haughty or victorious but the anon is right more bittersweet.That is to say, if Lace looked like a himan she'd be laughing but there'd be some hint of tears forming at the corner of her eye I reckon.
>>720398918I like how they self immolate after you beat the boss
>>720399002>hunter's march entrance markednigga what just wak in there
>>720399050Far right corner? I can give it a try I suppose but goddamn I hate when to make a boss harder it just becomes a mess of shit flying everywhere. I know it's just a me problem but it's still frustrating to have fun getting the first phase down and then the last one just being a mess of hurtboxes.
>>720399108there's no way to make that jump?
>>720398284Apologize.The last and ONLY kingdom.
>>720398982Didn't one of the NPCs state that one of the reasons things started falling apart around the same time the new daughter took center stage?
>>720399104most discussion of the game online right now is retards whining that they got filtered by savage beastflyi am not exaggerating
>>720399104oh look, someone who truly played the gamesic him and cover him in steel soul spoilers
>>720399028I think you can do it purely with pogos.
Okay, who the hell are these guys?
>>720398474>>720398502>>720398521There are? Ive looked everywhere and only found 2 uses for the key...
>>720398831Use the silk spear and boomerangs, burn enemies down before they have a chance to damage you
>>720399104Steel soul this time has exclusive content. There's a shitload of references to a City of Steel that we're probably going to see some time in the future
>>720398776dodge is rng, just keep grinding. my winning attempt i got over 70 without the big flea ever showing up. also jumping off the platform and just floating for a bit can help if a lot of them spamming the platform, was able to get back up after being hit a few times with the harpoon after doing that
>>720397827Holy shit I love the crest of the witch moveset
>>720399239real doubtful. You can do it without double jump(like I did) but cling grip is at least needed for it.
Uh I tried rebind crafting in the Dream World and I lost almost all of my shards. I don’t really use Architect, was that just an anti-cheese thing? I’ll get them all back, surely?
>>720399028i did !00% cogwork before getting double jump
>>720399326Oh right, wall jump is necessary to even access it. I just mean without double jump and grapple I think it's still possible. I did it without the double jump
>>720399097High halls for bug summons, ice area for ice clones (memory shard)Poison with those and tacks and fat dodging is the strat
>>720398831You just spam tools against flying niggers. Triple knives, the floating spike traps, boomerang.
>>720398804Not mandatory, I never got the third silk heart, and I've been to Whiteward, even did the quest there
>>720398831the floating pin you get from forge daughter is great for fliers as long as they don't trigger it prematurely with projectilesif you have the one thread attack that makes a circle around you, that's pretty good for multiple enemies too. i think you get it from far right of greymoor
>>720399391>>720399326are you fucking kidding me?
I remember reading in some interview long ago that there were offers for making HK movies/animated series. Do you think we wil ever see somrthing similar? I feel tempted to just draw my own comics set in that world out of spite
Fuck yeah I beat shakra with no tools no bullshit just straight wanderer. That's actually a pretty fun fight once you git gud. I'm glad I didn't just cheese it
>>720399043>also didn't address why gm silk having lace with her lets her live in the void and ruin the kingdom, but taking lace away without even finishing off silk somehow resolves the issueSilk singlemindedly loves Lace. Lace being there made her use all of her power to create a coccoon to hold back the Void for as long as possible to keep Lace alive.It resolves the issue because at the end Hornet saves Lace and Silk gives Hornet the strength needed toe scape the Abyss. All she wanted was to save her daughter.
>>720399258They look like baby versions of the brass shield guys
>>720398864Remember when one of the Kickstarter goals was meant to be a DLC about Quirrel? Maybe the guy isn't dead just yet
>>720399516>wanderer>didn't just cheese it
>>720398864third game will be a city builder where we play as sherma. my dad works for team cherry
>>720397827>no steamy babymaking leglock /ss/ sex scene at the baths
>>720399516>wanderer thats cheesing it
this is supposed to be possible?
be honest, you looked them up
>>720399516What the fuck how do you fight shakra
>>720399583I told you, there's a door in the lower section in the top right of it, it'll take you up there
>groal required for Act 3i'm not gonna make iti don't even wanna make the trek back to that secret bench
is quickslash for noobs?
>>720399313Such as? Honestly I died to pretty much everything, no way I'm getting even past the Marrow in Steel Soul mode.Also it should be Steel Silk Team Cherry, FUCK
>>720399553how is wanderer cheese? It's the standard hollow knight moveset anything else is secondary
>>720399534the brass shield guys look like the flatwoods monster
>>720398982huh, obviously knew the weavers/part weavers were getting kidnapped but thought it was just because grandma silk wanted more silk or a monopoly on silk, where does it say it's specifically about keeping lace alive?
>>720399641dude what are you talking aboutTHERE'S NO DOOR
>>720399452Triple knives come after the crow room, unfortunately
>>720399043>not walking SILK to have HORNET because she's jealous of hornetThat's what I meant though. Maybe it wasn't clear, but I was referring to Hornet with 'her'. >also didn't address why gm silk having lace with her lets her live in the void and ruin the kingdom, but taking lace away without even finishing off silk somehow resolves the issueI mean. The void falls off of Lace because we quite literally beat it off of her. If left alone she would have surely been consumed again. And Silk managed to keep Lace alive in the void the very same way she kept herself alive. Partially shielded in the silk cocoon, and with the pale might of her divine silk. And when escaping, why would Silk be in any immediate danger? They escaped void free thanks to the flower and thanks to little bro. Without someone to supply Silk, Lace would surely fade in time though. But presumably Hornet would be able to do so herself, since she is apparently one of few rare (final?) beings with a silk heart that can produce silk. And for what it matters, Hornet's silk is presumably better than most weaver's silk, thanks to being part pale. Probably making her silk closer to Silk's silk than other silk. Who the fuck knows if Hornet can actually do it though or if it's easy or difficult. Either way, it's not as if Lace would instantly crumble without Silk. She'll just fade in time and I don't think we can surmise how fast or slow of a process that'd be without her being sustained with fresh silk.
>>720397827I would kill every single one of you and then myself for Sherma
>>720399478It's true but way harder and you need the ascendant grip tool if you don't have double jump.
>>720399670Wonder why they changed it.
>>720399553Maybe if the others crests did not fucking suck I wouldn't keep using Wanderer.I only need one tool anyway
Garmond and Zaza fight is basically this game's version of Arena of Fools Zote fight, which is pretty hilarious with how everything is harder in SS so even the fucking Zote fight is only like 80% a joke.
>>720399601No? I found them casually, little did I know they would lead me to Greymoor
2 goddamn hours trying to beat the lava Savage Beastfly and the run where I manage to beat it I do it fucking hitless.
>>720399769i have double jump but not ascendant thingdoesn't seem possible
>>720399601Anon, there are 30 of the buggers in the game, do you really think anyone needed to look up how to find 5? I just payed the in-game helper for the last 4 or so.
>>720399723Go down the hole on the right side of the room in that screenshot, you'll see it blocked behind a wall
>>720399090you mean musical theme, right? yeah i was kind of thinking this earlier too, odd that there isn't some super obvious hornet theme in the game like the knight had
>>720399678the entire point of the game is to have a different pogo
>>720399797Why were you using tacks for it?
It's over...
REMINDER THAT THERE'S ANOTHER KNOWN KINGDOM IN THE GAMECITY OF IRON/STEEL>City where Steel Assassin Sharpe, Steelsoul Jinn, and Steelseer Zi are from.>It's apparently a totalitarian civilization that knows how to control "void".>Steel parties are sent out across the world to hunt down people who know how to use void. They are marked for death.>Jinn said that the Knight with Void Heart resembles his Masters.>City of Iron is a steel/void robot totalitarian hellscapeHere's your DLC bro.
>>720399837hitless and itemless, he may be actually playing the true game
>>720399654Good luck man.I cheesed him with the cog summons
>finish the High Hall gauntlet using cogflies and cogwork wheel>talk to the sick conductor at the end>"You didn't beat the game" he says from behind the drapes>gives me the melody normallyI can't believe this shit, bros
>>720399756>Without someone to supply Silk, Lace would surely fade in time though. But presumably Hornet would be able to do so herself>black and whiteTeam Cherry watched too much Prisma Illya
>you were an order... finest casteUhhh bros? Is my wife Pinstress actually Indian?
>>720399797You pretty much have to do it hitless, otherwise you wind up in a healing deathspiral.
>>720399797Its honestly not a terribly hard fight if you're hyper aggressive, instead of trying to heal I just used the silk to spam specials when the other mobs showed up, hate those guys more than the fly itself.
>>720399849I didn't use any tools, they were just what were equipped
>>720399797I accidently beat this thing in 8 seconds because I was running around exploring with 4 poison cogflies out, the boss spawns and they just melted it
>>720399923Bro Silksong is 100% a pure fucking fetish gameThe amount of degenerate shit Hornet goea through is absurd
fuck me i guess...............
>>720399836>musical themeye
>>720399417ah, yeah i have the ice thing but it's just stationary, thought the clones would like run around and attack. i have the bug bots but haven't found them to be as OP as people in these threads make them out to be. maybe i just need to use them more
>>720399794I'm still not sure where people even find a final one BEFORE Moorwing. I must be missing an early game one from somewhere.
>>720399891can't wait for Hollow Knight 3: Steelsoul in 2032!
>>720399891why was that one steel bitch in hallownest again? I don’t remember if it was anything specific
I did it.My right thumb's joint hurts after Lace 3, fuck a chaotic fight.
>>720399818You can chain grapple, double jump, and parachute to basically have infinite air and like triple tries for pogoing the gears, it's easier with double jump, honest.
>>720399837If that were true they wouldn't give us the option but fuck it I'll try the fight with hunter just for laughs since she lets you rematch her
Is there a good place to farm those shards in Act 3? I'm running low because I spam tools too much.
>>720399891>>City of Iron is a steel/void robot totalitarian hellscapeHOW IS HALLOWNEST THE ONLY GOOD FUCKING KINGDOM IN THE HKVERSEAPOLOGIZE TO THE PALE KING RIGHT NOW
>>720398212yeah but not instantly so it's actually kinda useless for dodging
Flea juggling is the hardest boss in the game.
>>720397827Just beat Vergil 3. I hope they patch in some more encounters with Lace and more Silky Grandmommy foreshadowing because they do take too much of a backseat. Also the Hunter's Journal notes are all fucking boring but the same was true of the first game.I like that they saved the HK1 callbacks for the very end. >>720399891STEEL SOUL JINN LET'S GO.
>>720399935>>720399797This. I pretty much understood that the instant I died for the first or second time and accepting this fact, I simply equipped the Barbed Bracelet.
>>720399962Might be why it took 2 hours.It took me about 30-45 minutes because I realized that I shouldn't use spike traps and used triple pins.
>>720400017If you want to use bug bots, use the poison tool too.
>>720400074i got like 90 juggles on my first try, you must be doing something wrong. it was probably the easiest and most fun challenge out of anything in the entire game
>>720399851Unless...
>>720399891It's going to be steel soul exclusive
>>720400027Steel Soul Jinn. Who I never really met because the idea of playing Steel Soul Mode disgusts me.
did lugoli hitless after like 10 attemptssomething just clicked
>>720400065>APOLOGIZE TO THE PALE KING RIGHT NOWWas he ever portrayed as a villain? IIRC he was always a fairly tragic figure trying to save his people no matter the cost.
>>720398864Quirrel game.
>>720399670A new NPC who gives a quest that ends in a boss fight. All the other Steel City lore is in the base game though
>>720400017They are just free spike traps. Don't underestimate them. She absolutely kills herself on them and the other stuff.Just try to dodge her big hit attacks and intentionally take only the one mask damages occasionally, having enough silk to heal
>>720399891So the next big bad are sentient void beings
>>720400151>Who I never really met because the idea of playing Steel Soul Mode disgusts me.Steel Soul in Hollow Knight is genuinely nothing, zero downsides. Jinn gives some mad payouts for those dumbass rotten eggs you otherwise never use, if anything it's a little nicer than base game.
>>720399851>goldman
What a game. It frustrated me a lot and made me quit a few times, but it also made me feel like a kid on a grand adventure again, sticking through the hard parts and being immersed up my ass in this cartoon bug world.These comfy threads have been a blast, see you in the DLC fags.
>>720400090Nah it took 2 hours because of mistakes. Using tools on bosses I know I can beat without feels cheap to me. Those tools I had equipped were for the High Halls gauntlet which I did earlier today. No problem using tools in that room though because fuck that room
am I missing something or was the entire point of this pogo niggertorture area just to get a mid attack skill?
>>720400064Farm the minibosses between the High Halls bench and the Songclave bench.Buy the shards with the rosaries.
Just did Granny. I hope the real final boss is less 'Radiance but again'.
>>720400090Before you get the conch thing for large enemies, boomerangs can hit the beastfly like three times per throw and I don't think there is a massive damage falloff per hit like the triple pins have, although you can bring both to the fight
>>720399923And remember that Hornet and Lace look VERY young. Child-like even.Literally loli yuri.
>>720400327lol
>>720400158The more retarded parts of the fanbase compared him (negatively) with European colonization, or Nazi Germany, or Drumpf. No, I'm not meming here.
>>720400313I think some of those are dead permanently now
>>720400303>Those tools I had equipped were for the High Halls gauntlet which I did earlier todayThat took me two tries (first try was wasted because took damage in rosary room), the beast fly took me way longer because I was still figuring out what tools I even liked
Highlights of my playthrough>Finding the gun>Understanding what the Needlolin actually does>Getting our good boy back and finally understanding that Hornet calls it "Herrah">Killing ffffffffucking Groal
>>720400065He literally has a Holy Trinity thing going on with the Hollow Knight and the Little Ghost, you have to bend over backwards to find a reason to criticize him because he is narratively the ultimate good.
Why is sherma a boy, but his voice sounds like a girls and why is Shakra a girl, but her voice sounds like a boy?
Maybe Wyrms really are superior beings after all
>>720400309Anon you can clearly see the bottom half of a weaver shrine...
How would one go about the 100% speedrun cheevo? Do an actual speedrun then play the game normally now that you have every upgrade? Play normally from the very start and just use your experience to cut time on bosses?
>>720400339I used booms and triple pins. The spike traps aren't as good on fast flyers who just charge through them
>>720399756>The void falls off of Lace because we quite literally beat it off of her. If left alone she would have surely been consumed again.>And Silk managed to keep Lace alive in the void the very same way she kept herself alive. Partially shielded in the silk cocoon, and with the pale might of her divine silk.my point was if the kingdom is fucked up in act 3 because gm silk is living so long in the void, then why does taking lace away from silk the void solve that problem. but i guess with you and some other people in this thread i'm buying that there's more evidence that gm silk really loves lace and without having lace in the void with her, maybe she'd give up and let herself die to save the kingdomstill feel like the main story needed more lace and more focus on lace/gm silk's relationship put in your face rather than in side lore dumps
Explain the appeal of Bilewater. So far this place just seems like one giant fuck you to the player.
Well that was easy. Beat shakra again with hunter what a fun fight. Hunter is too easy with the extra damage the pogo takes like half a second to get used to and actually makes the shakra fight specifically easier. I probably will keep hunter on for a bit though because it's just nice being able to one shot enemies with max focus and barbed bracelet
In Act 3, I died during a random encounter with Shakra, and she was gone when I came back. What did she say, and is there a quest related to her?
>>720400436This ever in doubt? Why do you think Hornet can do half the outrageous shits she did?
>>720400381They are. You still get solid results with the thief tools slotted. The pathing is also piss easy, literally a straight line
>>720399923Hornet basically just becomes Lace's caretakerHornet is a several thousand years old hag, Lace is a bratty loli
>>720400494you bought the dark souls knockoff don't ask me
>>720400238I'm expecting a twist where it's actually LIfeblood (which is also from the void)
>>720400494It improves the rest of the game by comparison
>>720400372That’s gonna get worse especially when pale beings have now been canonized to have the urge to destroy and take over stuff. Though with Silk Grandma actually being the only one who does any of those things, maybe she’ll take the brunt of faggots now.
look at my hornet
>>720399797this shit took me three tries, was NOWHERE near as bad as the first one imo. worst part of the first fight is how small the room is, having way more space in the second fight helped a ton
>>720400019I wouldn't be able to tell you because I myself don't remember, I found them casually, but I assume you'd need them to get to Greymoor and go through the phantom route
>>720400309The silk skill and the tool you get from there make it so you never have to fear flyers ever again
>>720400507Near Bellhart? I don't think you missed anything, she just says that she'll defend the village when you're gone. She'll pop up in the same spot occasionnally
>>720400612Less about the boss and more about managing the summons but especially the floor
>>720400485Silk made the weavers by transforming common bugs.Weavers betrayed her because they realized they were fake creations.Silk felt betrayed and enraged so she screwed over all the weavers and turned them into cows to milk thread from.From that thread she made Lace and Phantom.Lace was created to perpetually be a child.Silk kept the entire kingdom running just to supply Lace with thread and keep her alive which Lace hated.Hornet was captured just so she could be milked
>>720400065HE SPENT ALL OF THE MONEY ON SAWSHE BROUGHT THE KINGDOM TO RUIN
>>720399797How can people have trouble with this one? I get the first one, it fucked me over like everyone else but by the time you fight this one you're stronger and you already know what it does, beat it first try with no trouble whatsoever
>Find Garmond and Zaza for backup>Equip wanderer's crest>learn to grapple offensivelyGod fuck damn that enemy wave in high hallJust give me a boss next time jesus.
>>720400663Alright, thank you.
FILLTHEFORMUPRETARDS
>>720398808Unironically the trick is to take your time.Taking any damage cuts your time by like a sixth. If you don't rush and take your time focusing on not taking damage the time limit is basically meaningless
>>720400684NOCOSTTOOGREAT
I got the true ending. No spoilers because most of ITT has yet to play it, but for me the stuff with the Vessels and the Infection and Hallownest was a lot more compelling than the worldbuilding and lore of Silksong. They didn't replicate that feeling.I'll admit that from a pure gameplay perspective Silksong is more interesting though.
Man I wish the flee dodge highscore was lower so I could get 57 on all of them
>>720400684He thought if there were enough the Radiance couldn't get to him and the kingdom.We still never saw his master plan, which involved surrounding the sun itself with saws
>>720400420cause he's like 8 years old
>>720400420Shakra is a woman, Sherma is just a little kid.
>>720400681Where do the bits about the kingdom running just for Lace get revealed?Also why do we know why the Weavers betrayed Silk?
other than mt fay, bilewater, and the ducts, am i missing anything for act 2? ill post my citadel map in a sec
>>720399050THANK YOU! I had one health left because I fucked up and ate several attacks but that was so much more manageable.
>>720400603My hornet is amazing
>>720400710You probably used OP tools
>>720400745You have six minutes and taking a hit or bumping a wall cuts an entire minute off
There's more than one NPC you can get in the High Walls gauntlet? It was Shakra for me.>>720400603Cute
>>720400485>then why does taking lace away from silk the void solve that problemOh that's simple. 1. Because Silk downright gives Hornet the last of her being in order to assist Hornet to escape the void. And even if some of Silk was to remain, Silk would have no reason to resist the futilely anymore. The only reason she did so at all was to protect Lace for as long as possible. Nothing ever suggested she'd fight and thrash so hard for so long just to save her own skin. She did it for Lace. Futhter reinforced by how she downright sacrifices herself to power up Hornet. So of course the issue is resolved. The void threads were going bananas across the kingdom because Silk was fighting the void. But if Silk is no more, then it would follow that it would cease.
>>720400808Bilewater and Putrefied Ducks can be accessed in Act 2.
>>720400808something for the conductor thingy maybe but ill obviously go there regardless and its my last priority right now
>>720400538Hornet also looks young, and Lace is way older than she looks since she has been around for centuries.Hornet is single because mortals can't match her lifespan, Lace likely can since she is just living Silk, they are going to lesbian bait them.
Huh didn't expect to find these. any good? (Act 3)
>>720400751Pale King is definitely a more compelling character and is more straightforward. And the Radiance is just a straight up clearcut bad guy.Mother Silk and Lace's story are less in your face and you really need to poke around to figure shit out. But now that I've stewed over it more, I like the conclusion just as much but I can see why others might not feel the same.Hornet's character arc is great though and my favorite part of the game.
>Widow's 2nd phase is easier than her firstWell color me damned, I bout near shat myself when I thought the fight was over and she hopped back in, but it turns out, my panic was unjustified. Just beat her.Now that I have a damage upgrade, time to pay that bitch ass Beastfly a visit for some unfinished business
>>720400519I think I'm just gonna cheat some in. This is too inefficient. Thanks though.
>>720400158i wouldn't say this makes him a "villain", but in the end he does pretty much say "well i tried to stop the infection but i guess it didnt' work, you're all on your own now" and then he seals himself away in a separate dimension with a million buzzsaws
>>720400751I dunno, I like Silksong better. HK1st was just copying Dork Soul wholesale. I like that in this one it's basically just part of Hornet's overall bigger adventure.
>>720400465Be really good at the game, set a path that you can easily followI think the most annoying part would be to grind for beads overall
>>720398284>HallownestDelusion.>PharloomReality.That's what Team Cherry are saying.They were clearly pissed about something while they were making this game. I wonder what it was.
Oh man I hope I didn't miss some things in Act 2 that would lock me out of 100%
The red area dream world really blows. Bunch of gauntlets, what everyone loves. Can’t even refill your tools with Architect
>>720400803>Where do the bits about the kingdom running just for Lace get revealed?It's all conjencture and theorizing on my part but mostly because Pharloom is clearly dying because they don't have much silk anymore.>Also why do we know why the Weavers betrayed Silk?First Sinner.
>>720397882This happened to me. Almost did it first try but I slammed into the door by accident and that was enough to break it
>>720400494that is the appeal. did you never play dark souls 1? it's literally blight town with a touch of sen's fortress
>>720400906When do you get damage upgrade? Last major thing I did was drive with the fleas to a new area. I've been roaming around in previous areas doing stuff and I'm still on base needle.
>>720397963How many people trying Silksong have never played a Metroidvania before?
>>720398918I also wanted more Grimm content. He is immortal right?
>beat Widow on the 7th or 8th try>beat Last Judge on the 5th try>beat Phantom on the 3rd try>beat Clockwork dancers 4th try>beat Trobbio on the 7th try>got my stuff back in the slab in about twenty minutes>got the fayedown cloak in about twenty minutes from the start of the areaDoes everybody fucking blow at this game or something? And I'm playing it on the switch, so I probably have some gay input delay or whatever. I won't pretend it's easy, but the way I see crying over it you'd think it was DS3 Sister Friede for the entire game or something. The only really hitchback I had was Moorwing of all bosses.
Witch crest with this setup is fucking broken holy shit. Not too sure about the Warding Bell though, should I replace it with Multibinder? Would binding hit twice with it?
>>720400803>Also why do we know why the Weavers betrayed Silk?This one is easy, the Slab.
>>720400896So that's the final skill huh, no shadow dash? We could say it's a silk dash that makes you invulnerable
>>720400986I mean why did they do it though. Why betray Silk.
>>720400571Pale King is the only one not trying to force everyone to be in a retarded hive mind. He just asks that you be civilized instead of being a murder hobo bug.
>>720401015Right after Widow
>>720400612First one I did first try, the Beastfly kept killing its own summons. For the second one the chances of that happening were much lower.
Anyone else bust to Lace's fat ass at the end of the game?
>>720401027the way healing works on that crest feels kind of shitty.
>>720401043There's that too somewhere
>>720400465playing on the beta branch cuts down rosary grinding significantly, other than that it's mostly just a mix of route planning and playing well. Getting clawline and double jump early speeds up the game a ton
>>720401023>Does everybody fucking blow at this game or something?Yes, feel good about yourself?
>>720401083That's the last boss I beat so cool.
>>720397963The walk back is artificial content to pad the game's playtime.
>>720401125Everything usually die as soon as I heal with that setup though
>>720401023This is a joke right, those numbers aren't good
>>720401027I don't like it's basically impossible to heal during platformer section with that crest. I'd rather use Reaper/Wanderer/Hunter the whole game tbqh.
>>720400896mostly good if you find yourself whiffing your silk moves all the time
>>720400872High Halls on the left and Memoriam on the right.
>>720400769He should have hired the Architects from Pharloom they had a lot more saws
>>720401015Return to Bellhart and show the dude in the top right bell your Needle
>>720401081He does like being worshipped.But as we've seen that's literally the most benign way for a Pale Monarch to hang around. My man left the fungal god and mantris tribe the fuck alone when Silk Mom went went full Ferngully on multiple civilizations for no real benefit.
>>720401027Druid's Eyes would probably be a lot better than the bell
>>720400896It's good for bosses, basically aims itself.You can keep going up even higher.
>>720400945>somethingProbably arguments over how many esoteric fetishes they could force into the game while not getting the "adults only" rating.
>>720401043shadow dash is in the wormways. It sucks though, too much startup time
>>720401043nigga that shit's in the game, pretty sure i got it in act 1 even. idk where though
>>720400740fuggg why did pharloom get a chance to survive and not hallownest. fuck this gay earth
Whichever member of Team Cherry that implemented The Mist needs to be dragged out into the street and shot.Actual cancer in video game form. The textbook example of “anti-fun.”
>>720401210cool, thanks anon
>>720401192Oh right I'm sorry, I didn't no-hit every boss one try while fingering my asshole and playing with Donkey Kong Bongos. Guess I'm not a real gaymer!
TROBBIOO
Any tips for the big guy & flying spear dude duo at the top of Hunter's March?They are whooping my ass something fierce
>>720400901Its been a while I don't even remember what the Radiance's motivations were. I only really remember that place which had a statue of it and it was in ruins.
>>720401281It's fine. I just wish that if you were the butterflies they had a very mild melody as a clue as to what to do.
>>720401202pls
>>720401248I am currently going up. looking for the mushroom
>>720401313Use your tools/skills to blow up the flying guy and 1vs1 the big guy
>>720401152>>720401265>>720401270That's a skill though, I'm sure you know what I meant when I compared to the shadow dash
>>720401313Bait big dude, kill spear chucking bitch and pogo big dude to death
>>720397882on my successful try not only did I slam in to on of the doors I also forgot that he was in the upper section of the room and not the lower one. Still managed to reach him in the last second.
I'm late to the party, really late, I decided to play HK1 to see what the hype was about, I'm actually loving the game, I have 82% completion or something, I got one ending, not sure if good or not, basically I took the aids and got chainednow I'm exploring more and found what I'm pretty sure is a hyperboss, shit's so fucking good but hard, nightmare king, even the intro is so great
>>720400751I agree anon. Pale King and his family can’t be topped. Or well, Pale King can be topped but only by his wife’s tentacles.
>>720401023How the fuck do you get to Trobbio? I can't find any path towards it.
>>720401335something related to seething at the pale king for granting bugs sentience i think
>>720401362Wait no I'm fucking stupid, we were talking about skills after all, ignore that
>>720401043No, the devs recognized the i-frames are completely cringe and you have to be good at the game now.
>>720401362>that's a skill though>>So that's the final skill huh
>>720401016I genuinely think Silksong has what I would call "bad Metroidvania design". It doesn't funnel you well, it lets you go to terrible dead ends and then be forced to go back because you don't have the right thing yet. The design has more in common with Dark Souls 1 than something like Super Metroid. A good Metroidvania doesn't even need mapmarkers because it's tightly designed enough that you never have the problem of "running by a bunch of cans and waiting to get the can opener".I don't mean to be overly harsh to the game, I like it, but it and HK are not great Metroidvanias, they are great sidescrolling open-world RPGs.
>>720401245I think the bell is mandatory, get rid of longclaw and the mirror for the two other binding tools
>>720401414through the vaults
Man, it just wouldn't be team cherry if they didn't arbitrarily block paths lategame for no reason other than to waste your time.
>>720401281The Mist is a fucking resort compared to Bilewater. You're just not getting it
>>720401125it's pretty good against bosses that get stunned
>>720401414From the upper right side of his stage.
>>720401463Agreed honestly
>>720398547He's a man though
>>720401463This entire criticism feels like it's rendered completely redundant by the fast travel and dash which make getting in and out of areas a complete walk in the park. The game gives you more then enough tools to make it easier. To the point that I'd genuinely say HK itself is worse for your criticism than Silksong is because of how lacking in movement options the Knight is.
wheres the best bell farming spot in act 2?
>>720401463I disagree, on a first playthrough Super Metroid loves slamming doors in your face and making you wandering blind - it's the one that invented map stations, not Hollow Knight. It seems fluid now because everyone knows the basic routing.Hollow Knight isn't a great Metroidvania because it doesn't give you 11 billion health and get-fucked auto rockets which is kind of the fun of character progression based games.
Good boy
>>720401463if you think about it, it's 2d elden ring.
>>720401594See >>720400313
I died to No Eyes in HK1... i fell into the spikes
>>720401496Where the fuck is that??? It looks like Hunter's March but i don't know this room.Yea, i hate the arbitrary path blocking too. Something is close and then you get a quest to go there and it's suddenly open.
>>720401223This. Which makes me wonder why Hornet was like ‘our kind only allows two fates, devotion or destruction.’ when her father made alliances or left them alone so clearly there’s more than those two fates??
>>720401604Yeah I think HK tried too hard to be Dark Souls and doesn't sell the power fantasy well enough of end game metroidvania making you a complete powerhouse.
>>720401594Right on top of First Shrine. After you get the double jump it's an easy 200 rosaries in two minutes
>>720398561it's okay anon if you miss secret number 27 of 2354. It's not the end of the world if you miss some rosaries or a memory locket or something, you don't need to 100% the game in your first run to enjoy it.
>>720401281The enemy ghosts there are bullshit. Both the diagonal and horizontal charges have the same telegraph; there's no way to tell whether or not they'll grab you, you just have to guess.
It's bullshit that you can save lace from the void but not Garamond
>>720401646>>720401684i dont have double jump yet :(
>>720400064Just find whatever high-rosary farm, it's 5 rosaries for 8 shards when buying shard packs. Almost certainly faster than farming shard mobs.
>>720401463most of the stuff you back track for all optional collectibles, boss fights, etc. super metroid absolutely makes you back track constantly if you want full completion or to get more missles/e-tanks/etc. Silk Song just puts way more content behind the back tracking to the point that it feels crazy to ignore that shit. but if you're going for the speedrun achievement or doing a steel soul run or just care about getting to the end, it really isn't that bad. plus you're never really that far from a fast travel point, it's not like super metroid where if you missed something down in lower norfair you have to walk all the way there
>>720401724You don't need double jump
>>720401653These spirit minibosses are the worst part of Hollow Knight. The fact that they got added to the bossrush mode is criminal.
>stop worshipping your own creator because... reasonsAre weavers retarded??
>>720401653All those Kickstarter bosses are fucking bad, don't feel bad.
>>720401017The nightmare heart is immortal. He's not. He dies and gets reincarnated as a child that saps power from something else.
>>720401463felt this a lot more when playing Environmental Station Alphathat game had entire lengthy platforming sections that would lead to doors you can't open yet, Silksong doesn't feel half as bad in that regard
What's a good rosary farming spot in act 3? Seems like a lot of the good spawns got eviscerated.
karmelita is raping me. i heard she was the easiest of the 4 heart bosses too????????????????????
>>720398832>hasn't found these bossesanon the one in the left is mandatory to get the true ending I...
I dont like double jumpI feel like messing with player's muscle memory is the only thing you shouldnt do
No...
>>720401760Yeah I misspoke, you just need the double jump for the tool that gives you even more rosaries
Act 3 Spoilers I didn't realise you can super jump into Styx's nest, there's nothing really in there though
>>720400808Sands of Karak, Mount Fey, Bilewater and Putrified Ducts
>>720401202How do i get to the bottom part here?
REMINDER>wanderers crest + flea brew + flint>poison build>cogflies>caltrops + traps>achitect anything>shaman anythingIf you used ANY of these you didnt beat the game
>>720401858She was the hardest imo
>>720401858Nobody said she was the easiest.Everybody said she's the 2nd hardest boss in the entire game because of her massive health stat.
>>720401858No? She's the hardest
>>720401919Break something at the very top of the room I think
>>720400064farm rosaries (piss easy) and buy shards. or cheat like a bitch
>>720400309literally the one silk skill you should have equipped 90% of the time since it helps against the worst enemies (flying ones)
>>720401594Up-left from First shrine. The big guys on the path to the clockwork dancers drop plenty and are easy to farm
Fuck the boss in Bilewater, they somehow made it worse than beastflyWhat the fuck were they thinking?
>>720401940>used runes + railgun + spikes + magnetic dicePhew lucked out
>>720401906Where the fuck did he go? He just disappeared at some point in Act 2 for me
how do i get to putrid ducts
>>720401858I think she's by far the hardest short of Vergil. Crusty Cock man is a pushover and his waves are way easier than High Hall, Seth just has you play defensively and Gayboy Prince is... Clockwork Dancers again, the easiest boss of Act 2. Go explore, Flea Festival for that final nail upgrade, maybe bitch it out with venom cogflies and weaverlight pale nails, it's fine. Nobody will know. It will be our little secret, don't tell your parents.
>>720401946>>720401965>>720401959oh, good
>>720401858Nyleth (plant boss) is a very easy one - genuinely think it may be the easiest "major" fight in the game
>>720401335Tl;dr is that the radiance created/uplifted the moth tribe, pale king came around and established his kingdom, the moths abandoned radiance for the pale king, which lead the radiance being mostly forgotten. But she lived on in dreams, and in her rage(?) gave everyone the infection.
I cannot fathom trying to do cogwork core without double jump, shit would be so infinitely frustrating.
>go sinners rise, bilewater, slab, back, choral chambers, blasted steps, underworks >only thing I find the entire goddamn time is the silk parryJesus christ this is brutal I havent seen a mask shard
Where are the caltrops and traps
I still don't understand the snare setter. I hold the buttom, Hornet plucks a cannister on the floor, the cannister bounces off empty.
>>720402034Up from Bilewater or right from Memorium
>>720401940>architect>shaman>in any way goodlol. lmao, even.
>>720401023That looks about normal to me. It just means you're above average.
>>720402090i went through from Bile water but it seems to door to go any farther is blocked.
>>720401808Silk basically just wanted slaves
>>720401940Shaman's not really that strong honestly, having to be grounded to heal is a pretty significant con against most bosses
>>720401940>witch + injectors + claw mirrorsphew, I beat it
Nice
>>720402001I wonder if you can reach him through the other side, by the Putrefied Ducts anyone tried it?
>>720401023>didn't first try any bossah you are the kind of gamer that plays in easy mode, aren't you?
>>720401607This is actually a great fucking comparison. HK was like Das1. Kinda janky, kinda small, pretty slow, but utterly full of soul. Fantastic worldbuilding and all these mysteries and crazy hints going on.SS is very much like Das3/ER. The gameplay is much much better. But they're trying to do way too much, the story is a complete rehash, the world is too big for it's own good, and all the worldbuilding is surface level without introducing anything new.Just like ER, I don't think I will ever replay SS. It's a good game but it just doesn't have the same focus and gets way too fucking tedious.
>>720398831once you beat coliseum of birds you can climb to the top of the area and get the gossimer storm from Hornet Hollow Knight. It stunlocks and 1hkos a lot of adds in an aoe.Also finish the polyp quest in shellwood to get an item that lets you melt through normal enemies with your tools.
>>720401663it's the connection room between hunters march and deep docks. it gets blocked from the docks side after a certain point, thankfully you can at least unblock it from the Hunter's March side, which is an improvement compared to the first game, where the random blocked paths were just a big orange FUCK YOU.
>>720402127you gotta kill the boss and then go up. from there you're in the ducts, i think the way to the fast travel point needs you to hit some breakable walls on the way
>>720402127Oh you might be forced to go from the other entrance then.
>>720402162It's blocked by the bridge thing you break I think, assuming there isn't something else blocking that
>>720402159Blue charms are so fucking good. Why do yellow charms all suck apart from the "actually get the money enemies drop" one.
>>720401484>get rid of the mirrorYeah no, you have no idea the ungodly damage this thing dishes
>>720402182What I like about SS is that it doesnt fucking run out of juice and rehash every damn mob and boss halfway in.
>>720401023After beating the game, I'm pretty sure Bloatfly 2 took me more attempts than anything elseA couple bosses took me a decent few tries, but nothing like the hardest if FROM's output
>>720399601I did all of them without looking anything uplater on you can buy map markers for themthere was only one I found to be bullshit and it was near first shrine/gramophone guy
>>720400917bro just wanted to be alone with his tunnels filled with saws. something any man should be able to understand.
>>720402220>once you beat coliseum of birdsAre you talking about the big arena fight that unlocks the balloons?
>>720398284>>720399202
>>720402351yee
>>720402275Because people (rightly) complained that there were too many useless useful charms in HK that you'd want to use but couldn't warrant a charm notch on
>>720402182>Just like ER, I don't think I will ever replay SS.I share that exact same sentiment. Great games but not ones I want to revisit.
did I really just kill the guy for a decoration?this whole zone felt like it should have been part of the main campaign questline?
>>720402275bro your dice?
>>720402298>run out of juice and rehash every damn mob and boss halfway in.That's Act 3
What the fuck is this thing?
I HATE THE JUGGLE I HATE THE JUGGLE I HATE HTE JUGGLE
stuck bug in putrified docks above the huntress, how to remove?
>>720402280Okay, get rid of longclaw instead
>>720402410One of the barnacles eating one of the flies from the Slab, it's just to explain why you find one of the keys there though what the fly was doing there isn't explained, guess looking for people to capture
>>720402390i think it can serve as one of the three bosses you have to beat to get to the final boss, but i'm not positive. doesn't really matter if you plan to kill them all anyway tho
>>720402069I keep finding silk upgrades and no mask shards. Where the hell are they?
>>720401027Weavelight is deceptively good, it's an extra silk heart which means you need less silk for skills or heals.
>>720401463>doesn't funnel you well, it lets you go to terrible dead ends and then be forced to go back because you don't have the right thing yet.Not even remotely true, Silksong is consistently good at either blocking off areas immediately if you don't have the right tools (Mount Fay, High Halls) or looping you around so you don't have to do massive backtracks like in Cogwork Core or in Bilewater where you go all the way around and reach the fast travel if you don't have double jump.
>>720399601I currently have 13/15 fleas according to my steam cheevos page which is helpfully tracking it for me and I haven't looked up a single one. And I know where the 14th is because I passed by him in Whispering Vaults but couldn't get to him, when I find the map for that area he is mine. I assume the 15th is somewhere in the Sinner Path area that I haven't explored yet because it looks like a fucking shithole
>>720402434might have to let yourself get pulled up to a path by one of those dangling things
>>720402418The juggle was the hardest but pretty fun. I disliked Bounce the most since sometimes the double jump wouldn't work
>>720402390You can use it for the quest if you really want, it is kind of fucked up that Hornet just kills him even if you didn't have to though, I know he was sad but I don't remember him saying he wanted to die and it's not like she asks
>>720402370heh
I opened the door next to the pilgrim camp in the far fields from the inside, jumped over the monster and leftI thought he'd follow me to the next zone but he's gone
Is there a shopping checklist? I feel my rosaries are useless now
>>720402558bounce was one try. I was afraid at first there was a limited number of fleas but you can just keep going and float to stall for more to show up
>>720402434I don't think you can. He drops a key and that's it
>been playing silksong every day after workonly have about 30 hours inThink i'll take a small break and recharge my batteries.I stopped on cogwork warriors though that was super rad for the one attempt I did.
>>720402596I did that too, I found him again later in the cathedral
>>720402390that heart counts as one of the three you need for the macguffin quest, so you can skip karmelita if you're getting filtered. the decoration is just the last one you collect.
>>720402485>>720402571oh I see, I guess it's a failsafe to skip the karmelita fight if some people really need to
>>720399962>>720400303you have been mindbroken by /v/ so hard you will literally not use game mechanics because /v/ will tell you You Did Not Beat The Game, and you will believe them. It would be sad if it weren't so pathetic.
>name is titled hollow knight>the hollow knight is nowhere to be seenI MEAN CMON WHAT WAS THAT CLIFHANGER ENDING IN OG HK WHERE HK WAS FREE AM I SUPPOUSED TO FORGGETABOUTIT
>>720402463but it's blocking the way to a flea
>>720402405Effectively like 5% less damage, it's fine only because there's nothing better. If longnail was a yellow I'd choose that every time.>>720402379We're at the same problem, I like a lot of the blues and can't use them.
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU RNG bullshit i wanna curbstomp those fleaniggers into the fucking asphalt
>make stupidly long game with a fuckhuge map>gives you only 3 types of markersWhy are the devs like this?
>>720402715non canon
one mask shard for 100%... pain...
>>720402727AWOOO
>>720402763there's like six kinds of markers dummy
>First Pale Oil sends you on a multi-hours quest with specific NPC and bosses>Second Pale Oil is just found lying around somewhere>Third Pale Oil is given by the least likely people to have found it
>>720402418I'll take the juggle anyday over dodge, honestly if I replay the game I'll just live with an unoptimised weapon rather than doing dodge again, and I'm not even talking about beating Seth's score.
>>720401710bro just jump and down attack when they charge. they always charge straight at you.
>>720402786same here... I'll have to check most 1 by 1 because I have no clue what it is
>>720402719He's not, it's somewhere else, if you got there coming up from Bilewater you can't get it yet>>720402724That is also true but I feel there's more variety than always have Mark of Pride and Quickslash at least which basically limited you to 2-3 extra slots anyways
>>720402715wait till Hollow Knight: Silksong: Lace Land
>>720402813Uhh you got the order wrong, the quest one is the second unless youre the most unlucky person alive, or blind.
>>720402715>the hollow knight is nowhere to be seendo we tell him?
is this the dialogue that indicates I unlocked act 3?
>>720402786I just used Polygon's interactive map to find them allDont forget to do all wishes, though if you're close to 100% i assume you already have
How do I get garmond's quest?
I never once dueled Shakra or the bug cavalier guy. I'm still in Act 2.Shakra is sitting in bellhart rotating between>I have no supplies>I still have supplies>I might settle down hereAnd the Cavalier is saying>Ill protect the bugs for a little whileDid both of these get fucked up? I heard you can duel them
>>720402786>>720402858If you haven't done the Sprinter quest, it's 100% that one.
>>720402903No, he gives you a quest
>>720402903No, you'll know because you'll be very tired from running around looking for the one fucking trigger you missed.Also he'll call you cool and give you a quest.
>>720402813>first needle upgrade is a free reward for saving the town>second needle upgrade is a reward for exploring>third needle upgrade is won with hard effort from a lengthy quest>fourth needle upgrade is a post-game bonus and not factored into the difficulty of any fightsfixed
>>720402892That wasn't the Hollow Knight you know
>>720402903You will know if you unlocked act 3 because there is a bonus quest
>>720402903Yup
>>720402805Oh, sorry, I forgot I have to buy the basic functions of the game, some being. Where are the latter 3?
>>720402903If the Caretaker is outside the final boss room, you're good for Act 3That dialogue means you're probably good
>>720402903If he's gone, you can get to Act 3. If he stayed, you fucked up.
>>720401023>>720401295nta but...>beat Widow, Phantom and Clockwork Dancers on my first try>beat Trobbio in 3-4 triesreally the only two bosses that I died a lot to in your list was Last Judge with the victory coming at the 7th try.Anyway,>Does everybody fucking blow at this game or something?fucking seems like it, either that or going through Hollow Knight quickly helped a lot.
>>720402959anon... do you really think I'd have missed a marked quest?
>>720400419>>720400436After the act 2 ending I'm almost sure that Pale King was just some bug who killed and absorbed the real Wyrm.
>>720402678>tfw beat the game>Still haven't found pollen heart>It's gonna live in my house forever now making me sneeze
>>720402275i can't imagine not using the silksprint charm.
Maaaaaaaaaaaan, do I really gotta go on a multi-region fetch quest for another needle upgrade, or is there another Pale Oil somewhere in the citadel unrelated to the Gourmand
>>720402813Fleas are everywhere on the map, they're likelier than anyone else to find the shiny bottle
>>720402981>fourth needle upgradena-nani!? There's a fourth one?
>>720401023>Does everybody fucking blow at this game or something?Well you do judging from these numbers.
the way this bitch speaks makes my anus tickle
>the edge of the areas in blasted steps where hornet talks about why she wouldnt liveInstead of the typical case where your save goes back to right before the final boss, i really wish this game just had the world actually be cleansed and all the void shit removed. So you could have the ending and roll credits be hornet walking off into the distance
>>720403071there is another, but each pale oil is another upgrade so you want to get both.
>>720403070I've seen a lot of people praise that one and I don't get it, Hornet is so fucking fast anyway I only bothered with it for the racing quests.
>>720403106Yeah, you beat the Flea gamesMind you theres only 3 pale oils
>>720403070this, but mainly because the picture of hornet wearing anklets is hot
the ant woman might be the most retarded and unfun boss fight in the game along with the fleas
>>720403070My nigga
>>720403106anon why do you think the upgrade guy is still saying>hey bring me a pale oil if you find oneyou think they just forgot to update his dialogue or what?
>hunters' mark in hollow knight 1wow that was fun>true hunter in silksongehh no ill cheat in the achievement and pretend i 100%ed the game
>>720403170Unironically filtered - she was fun.Shes far easier if you just stay in the air and bounce off her often
>>720403170skill issue also all of them are wasy because you have infinite tools
>Pinmaster doesn't offer up his life when he's done fully upgrading your needle to a masterpiece, so you can test its effectivenessA dishonor to his craft
>>720403187Hunter's Mark in HK1 was not fun. It was equally as grindy with equally as boring flavour dialogue, it is a shit quest in both games.
>>720402727Take a break and look for the Seth guy in the Underworks. After you beat him he's gonna eventually join the festival and assist you.
>>720403070I don't want to lose silk just from my basic movement.
>>720403139Yeah I grasp that. Was gonna do it as I find the shit required for it, but I was just hoping for another upgrade sooner than that.
Went for phantom instead of judge on 2nd playthrough and realized people who found phantom first naturally experienced kino of the highest caliber with both boss and citadel introduction.While judge cucks experienced pain, suffering and then total garbage of starting from underworks.
>>720403071anon you don't need to get it right away. i probably had the pale oil quest for a good 15 or 20 hours before i completed it. i just happened to collect all the items along the way.
>>720403213She's fun until you realize she suffers from HP bloat. Then it's tedious.
>>720403217the male population in this game is already way too low for him to die, especially ones that aren't incompetent or assholes
>>720403187Are we just coming up with random things to insult the game with now, who the fuck found the Hunter's Mark fun though the boss fake-out was good
>>720403175I mean, they did forget to change the Hermit's dialog in Act 3 if you have the parasite within you...
>>720403148>NOOO I'M ALREADY FAST ENOUGH, I DON'T WANT TO GO FASTERsaid no one ever.
please fucking tell me theres a different bench in bilewater
>>720403254you should have already gotten two needle upgrades before that one
>>720399002>Using silver markers for jumps and yellow markers for locked doors instead of the other way roundI'm gonna puke.
>>720402727>>720403225next attempt fueled by rage but that would've helpedi really wish there was a set pattern getting screwed over by rng is infuriating
>>720403280I did that and it really surprised me because I was exploring there precisely to delay moving on towards the main goal.
>>720403217He's not a homo (had a wife even) so he doesn't need any unnecessary drama to spice up his character.
>>720403332Yes
Where do you get more map markers besides the yellow, red and silver ones?
>>720403430Shakra just starts selling them
>>720403430Shakra sells more as you get further
>>720402903this is how you know you're in act3
>>720403250it uses so little i don't even notice it.
>>720400751I personally find it really interesting how you have this godlike who desperately wanted children but couldn't have them normally. Adopted children of her own and imbued them with her own power. Only for them to rebel. Making her change tactics and make her own children entirely from scratch, shaped by nothing but the very silk she shapes. And then these children too grows to resent her due to the impression of them not being true beings. There are multiple steps and levels of desperation and obsession at play here. Yet with a sympathetic core that ultimately still has disastrous consequences. And then I find it really interesting to have all the many individuals caught in these consequences, regardless of whatever motivations lies beneath it all. Then you've got different individuals who have different yet incomplete pictures of the above puzzle, and it's interesting what different conclusions they draw. That's what I think at least. And it also personally resonates with me a bit more since Pharloom's kingdom is actually alive (if falling) as opposed to having already fallen. It kind of raises the stakes you know.
Why the fuck does the Needlolin consumes SilkI just want to read the dialog but it cuts halfway through. Let me jam
i did it
>>720403567collect more silk hearts
>>720403213>>720403214its simply not fun to fight
>>720403383>132seth is gona seethe when he sees this
>>720403645You need a full spool to see most full songs.
>>720403491>>720403494At what point in the game? I’m in act 2, and some variety would have really been useful by now. Don't know why this shit strings you along
>>720403070It doesn't feel like it makes you sprint even 25% faster. Same placebo garbage as the longclaw where the actual effect is in the ballpark of 10% but people still go crazy over it.
>Pinstress duel>expect kino swordfight>LOL, just gonna jump and spam projectiles man fuck this bitch. the charge attack she gave me was worthless too.
>>720403682Try talking to her in Bellhart.
I hate this pale stag fight. Why do the projectiles block my projectiles?
>>720403683It's noticeable especially when you end up getting a new crest and it unequips it and really what else are you going to put in a yellow slot
>>720403690I agree, Phantom and Lace are the actual masters of the craft, not that granny.
>>720403316in hk1 there were a lot less mobs and i had like 10 niggas remainingin silksong i have like 4509 niggas remaining>>720403690the charge attack is great on architect crest and shaman crest, it also helped me a lot for the cursed ending. i assume its nice for reaper specially with how lacking the normal upslash isBut its very bad on hunter and beast
>>720402976>>720402903>>720402967What even are the conditions? I got the quest like, the moment I finished the prior main quest. Pretty sure at least. It was very early at least. Is that uncommon? I didn't even get the 'regular' ending since I foolishly did the other ending first. Naïvely assuming it would just be like when you fought Hollow Knight, and that the game would just reload you before the fight and allow you to do all other options afterwards. I didn't even know act 3 existed. I genuinely thought the game was ending. Aside from the quest directly tied to the ending, I wasn't aware that there other conditions people apparently struggle with.
>>720403779Barbed ring, wall cling, weighted belt
>>720403690yeah whoever had the idea to turn what was obviously going to be a KINOMAX swordfight to the death on top of a snowy mountain at the end of the world into "lol i jump and spam projectiles xd" should have been fired
>>720403683what the fuck? its extremely noticeablealso please dont tell me none of you niggas combine that with the speed drink. You go super fast and theres even an easter egg in the place where you get silksprint if you do it
>>720403690honestly it might be the most disappointing fight in the game for how much shit she talks beforehand
>>720403832You can lock yourself out of the regular ending in Hollow Knight, too, so it's about the same. Conditions aren't datamined, all we know it's all sidequest boards, about 20-25 fleas found with the caravan at the last place and a handful of other friendly NPC quests.
>>720403832You need the snare, the fleas already moved to aqueduct, and like every town appreciate you, I think.
>>720403725Thanks
If you unlock the gate in the Far Fields and the rhino bug escapes, are you just fucked for the Hunter's Journal?
>>720403683Longclaw slander is for retards
Wait did all the weavers betray granny? I got the impression that only sinner didIs that why widow was crippled??
>>720403690Charge attack isn't worthless you're just not far enough into the game. Flintslate boosted architect charge attack one shots mini bosses and Max focus barbed bracelet boosted hunter charge attack basically two shots mini bosses
>>720403960There's another one in Act 3, but I can't remember where exactly.
>>720403960nope there is another one
im doing the mushroom guy quest right nowIts ludokino but i feel like it could have picked some cooler locations not a SINGLE location was the edge of the world in blasted steps? seriously???
are there any hidden areas you can get to with scuttlebrace? i remember in act 1 grendle said something about a treasure room in the deep docks if you could squeeze through something but i dont want to scour the entire map all over again
>>720403996>>720404003You need 2 for completion.
>>720403832It took me ages to get that quest, although I don't remember the last time I checked Bellhart's notice board. Feels like you need to complete side quests, although whether its a specific set or just a number I dunno.
>>720403960Nah theres another one - i think in the memorium hall in the citadel?
>>720404004You get the better edge of the world.
>>720404026Well good thing there's 2 of them then
>>720403890The amount of places where you can sprint uninterrupted is absolutely negligible. I spend the majority of time in this game cycling clawline and drifter's cloak across rooms.
Can you get locked out of any endings besides the curse one? Like if you do the mushroom one, are you locked out of the regular one or vice versa?
>>720404026It infinitely respawns in Far Fields in act 3, can't remember precisely where, but it's not far from the bellway
>>720403960One becomes a regular spawn in Hunter's March in Act 3.
>>720404092No, the mushroom need you to get the true act 3 ending first.
Ive seen maps of a little room back here, how do i get in?
>>720402460you crazy, the reach you get with that thing is insane
>>720404062yeah that ones cool but two cakes>>720404084works in my machine, theres piles of long ass linea places in this game. if i get interrupted for a second or two i also dont care
>>720404092Curse and Weaver Queen you can be locked out of. Mushroom isn't a real ending just an extra cutscene like the first game, developer shitpost really.
What stuff is permanently missable in the game? There's the enemy journal entries in the dreams/memories, the Lace fight in Deep Docks if you go to the Citadel first, the curse ending if you remove the root, what else?
TEAM CHERRY PLEASE I BEG YOUI NEED A FIRST SINNER AND PHANTOM SUPER BOSS
>>720404195I didn't find it that useful honestly, just tossed it for Lace 3. Even in base game, past Trial of Fools, Godhome doesn't care about nail reach at all.
>>720404150steel soul mode
>>720401027multibinder lets you get more health but im not sure about the damage
>>720404026go left from the far fields bellway
>>720403972Go ahead. Tell me what situation makes longclaw so indispensable that it'd be a problem to reach the enemy without it. It had better not be something about pogo skill issues again.
>>720404214Lots of NPCs just die if you go to Act 3 without completing their miniquests. Siegmeyer and Solaire's duels. Probably a lot more stuff, we don't know yet.
>>720404214>There's the enemy journal entries in the dreams/memoriesThye fill up automatically when the zone gets locked. You can miss the entries for Shakra and the old dude if you don't duel them but the game doesn't consider you need them for a complete log.
Where is the NPC that gives the fleas location?
Architect crest is fucking broken lol, the Bilgewater boss, that you have to fight a gauntlet surrounded by shit water before, was pissing me off, so I decided to just spam my tools at them, so I spammed tools, recharged them with silk and spammed some more and the gauntlet and the boss died in 10 seconds or so. Fuck this zone, I don't even get what it is or how it makes sense lore wise.
>mfw watching someone get hard filtered by Mount Fay
The First Sinner was kicking my shit with all that spam until I realized I can just pause the game to plan my next counter move.
>>720404362Flea Juggle(Seth's memento)
>>720404382>>720404385How do you duel the gramps?
>>720398864TC's next game will be their Zelda clone, Fearless Fox
>>720404416I do this with every boss with a second phase desu
>>720404412But that's the most fun area in the game.
Which of these wishes are pre act 3
Hold on, was this hole under the Slab always here?
>>720397957Exhaust Organ route is easier
>>720404505Silk and Soul
>>720404436The flea minigames strip you of all of your tools and leave you with a bare crest. Retard-chama, you were overdosing on placebo again.
>>720404526Yes, leads to some area with those spiky rocks from the Sand area if I remember correctly
>>720403942>You can lock yourself out of the regular ending in Hollow Knight, tooI suppose you can screw yourself out of the first ending. But you aren't locked out of any of the others. Sealed Siblings and Dream no More is just the difference of whether or not you actually dreamnail the Hollow Knight and fight the radiance. No matter what ending you choose you can just return to the other. And the same is true for the flower or godhome endings. It's not like Dream no More starts an entirely new act that erases all prior endings and fundamentally changes the entire game world. The act3 stuff is exciting in its own way. But it certainly caught me very off guard.
>>720404391putrified ducts
how do I fight the map lady and don quixote bug?
>>720404362Most fights benefit from having extra reach since ut hives you more flixibility on positioning around attacks - especially woth the wanderer crest, where it goes from short as hell range to being on par with the base Hunter crest
>>720404402I think it's supposed to be a zone that's been poisoned by runoff from the Citadel, whose inhabitants have adapted and become the most spiteful motherfuckers in the kingdom.
>>720404385So you're saying you can't ever be locked out of completing the Hunter's Journal?
>wait a half second before using clawline again if out of silkNice way to ruin the flow of your platforming
>>720404646Map Lady can be challenged east of Bellhart. Where the Flea Caravan would otherwise set up camp. So presumably you must have progressed them far enough ahead to have left Greymoor. I imagine. There might be other conditions. Like buying X number of maps from her or something. But I don't know. If you can duel her, there should be a ring on a stick where the Flea Caravan used to be.
>>720404736there are so many baffling design decisions like this in the game you wonder what they were doing down under for seven years
>>720404643Thanks, and fuck that zone
>>720404646>>720404780Map lady is after her personal quest AND the Flea Caravan is not in the area anymore. Oh, and Act 2 only.
Just met Lava Beastfly. Why am I being punished for exploring? The only thing that's ever in these side passages is the most rancid dogshit imaginable, every time. I thought Team Cherry were experienced metroidvania devs? This isn't how it's supposed to work.
>>720404736>>720404794That and the needolin using up your silk is retarded
>>720404736Why wouldn't you always have Weavelight? Not just for platforming, but in general. For all things silk.
>>720404362Its great for annoying flying fagsAnd as the other anon said, it helps the Wanderer Crest out immensely by giving it a respectable range so you're less likely to fuck up and take contact damage
>>720404820Why did you pick up the quest? It only spawns after you pick it up. It is quite literally, your own fault and doing
Any idea what I'm missing here?
>>720404819>Map lady is after her personal quest AND the Flea Caravan is not in the area anymore.You can duel Shakra before you've concluded her quest.
I have 9 masks, are the last 4 pieces reserved for Act 3?
>>720404761Would you?
>>720404907ye
>>720404916
Threefold pin is underrated
>>720404984That's literally what I've been using all game.
>>720404845I don’t have that yet. If it’s so nice that it should always be equipped, they should have given it to me
>>720404883A delivery item maybe? Did you do the delivery for the mask-maker?
>>720404962kek wtf
>>720404984>>720405038Gripping onto walls and spamming niggers in arenas with them is kino
>>720399776Quick tell me how to get the garmond quest before the thread dies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>720404984>Threefold pinI've been using it with poison for every act 2 bosses
>Hunter crest upgraded twice>2 venticrestsIs there any point visiting Eva anymore?
>>720405121Yes
>>720405121Yes.
>>720405121Yeah, there's one more upgrade
Wish Hornet wasn’t an idiot and felt the need to freefall to attack up on a wall
so what's the lore behind this area? Act 3CAPTCHA: XXG4Y
>>720404883It's the Mask Maker delivery item
Jesus witch crest is absurd for bosses but complete ass for anything else.
>>720404526how do you get here?
>>720405215Wouldn't it be even better for normal enemies, where you can round them together and bind them all
>Garamond and Zaza sleeping at First Shrine>done literally everything before Act 3 except the duel with them>they refuse to show up at the area where the duel happensWell what the fuck then.
>>720402054It was a trillion billion times easier than path of pain, did it first try without double jump
>>720405215It's pretty good for arenas, with the mirror you can practically delete an entire wave
>>720404984I always preferred the boomerang. But the threefold pin is very strong I suppose.
>>720403942I dont think you can lock yourself put of the base ending this time. When you strike the final blow im pretty sure I saw both prompts to 'bind' and use the needolin, so you should be able to still access both.
>>720404579you get to keep equipped crest so shaman is pretty good
lost lace is such a disappointment>start sprinting >boss spawns inside of you or some off screen tentacle hits youwhy even have a wide arena if im not supposed to do that
>>720404579>>720405426Beast is better at juggle desu
HOW DO I DUEL GARAMOND
>>720401902Only now did I connect this is the guy that got no absolution in the Slabs area
>>720405560Elaborate?
