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I completed all wishes from the wish boards
I got the bell home
I moved the fleas to the lake
I got all 3 cogheart pieces and did final audience
I got all three melodies and played the song in front of the cage (I didn’t go to the final area, idk if you can go back)

And I still haven’t gotten silk and song. Can anyone help?
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Make sure you never die.
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>>720422581
You have to never die once to unlock act 3?
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What does the guy that takes care of the First Shrine who I forgot the name say when you talk to him? He should tell you how much you helped everyone and how he trusts you with stuff and blah blah blah and give you the quest.
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>>720422831
To me he just does his old dialogue
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>>720422507
Go to the final area, there's one thing before the final part and it's probably mandatory to unlock the quest.
Even if you beat the game you will be able to come back and do it, it's what I did.
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>>720422507
Did you beat the game to get any ending? I heard various people say the quest unlocked after reloading a save after any ending.

Also did you get all the crests so far? I was missing the witch crest and it’s a hidden wish not on a board. Look into what to do to get witch crest. Unlock the other crests if you didn’t yet too.
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>>720422928
Can anyone confirm? Sorry bud can’t trust anyone, you might be trolling me to ruin my save. Apologies if you aren’t
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>>720422967
Actually I remember now adding to the post you only need to beat the 2nd to last final boss not the actual final boss to trigger the quest but you can keep playing after any ending.
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>>720422967
I got wanderer, reaper, hunter, beast, and witch. The only areas I haven’t completed is bilewater, the mist, and the area with the wicker man. Btw I did a lot of the off board quests like savage beast fly, the map maker woman’s quest, etc
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>>720422976
When you beat the game you get sent back to the place before the final boss so it's fine.
The first HK was like this as well so you could get all endings.
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>>720423093
Okay ty, I’m going up the cage now
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>>720422976
You've never been to the last area? That's probably it, then.
Even if you beat the last boss and finish the game you'll still keep your save right before you beat the boss and are able to get the other endings. I did this myself. But you have to unlock the last area for the good ending, some stuff happens there. It's a very explicit trigger to enter the last boss fight, you can explore the zone without any worries.
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>>720423183
Thanks, was pleasantly surprised by who met me when I went up the cage
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Blessed thread.
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>>720425214
Not a long thread, but a good thread nonetheless.
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Remember that Hornet was morbing at the start of the game, when the screen flashed back? What's up with that?
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How long is Act 3? If I beat Act 2 in 22 hours with most things completed, do I have a chance of getting the 100% under 30 hour cheevo?
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>tfw locked out of the shakra and garmod duels
they better be in the inevitable godhome update
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>>720425439
Probably not lol.
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>>720425556
They’re not even good, I don’t understand why you guys care so much.
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>>720425672
its about the principle of it all
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>>720422507
uhh, I just activated the robot chick and watched her beat down one of those tall dudes. Hope I kind find where this quest continues, I think shes neat (and forgot to take a screencap)
Some little pilgrim dude in the citadel town keeps talking about some little kid laughing - where do I go?
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>>720425884
>she
also if you find her again beating down some of the niggas go back to the wish board.
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>>720422976
Yeah it's fine
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>>720425672
1. how the fuck would they know if it's good or bad if they haven't found it?
2. nobody likes missing content forever
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>>720425672
I wanna fight all the fights.
I can't finish my tier list if I haven't done all the fights.
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How?
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>>720425556
Garmond duel was extremely easy
Shakra was pushin' my shit in, but I just got Witch's crest and am still struggling with overcoming Reaper crest muscle memory.
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>>720426121
The path to that flea involves a zone you haven't even found yet. Good luck.
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>>720425351
It was just a way to nerf her, because midgame Hornet is Hornet during Hollow Knight.
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I have 8 masks and 3 needle upgrades, but only 2 Craftmetal. Am I retarded, or is Craftmetal just extremely well hidden? I don't want to look it up.
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>>720426168
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>Lost Garmond
>play the Needolin afterwards
>Zaza's words
I didn't want to feel today.
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Does the music get better as the game goes on? #1 thing I was hoping for in this sequel was more interesting/varied music and environments than the first game, but so far I've been pretty underwhelmed on that front.
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Does anyone have that architect relic meme? I saw it in an earlier thread but I forgot to save it.
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>>720425556
They don't even count towards Hunter's Journal completion, who gives a shit. Just do it on your next playthrough.
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Mount Fey or White Palace
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>done everything except the true final boss and the mushroom man wish
Does completing that wish before I fight the final boss lock me out of the normal ending?
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>>720426570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igY6vEBu26U
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>>720425884
Seriously does anyone know what this laughing kid thing is about? Otherwise I guess I'll move on to getting the other 2 songs.
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>>720426893
They're talking about Lace, you retard. She comes at the end of Act 2.
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>>720426893
>laughing kid thing
that's just Lace lol
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>>720426893
its a media literacy thing. don't be that guy who looks at his phone during a movie and then asks why nothing makes sense. at least understand who you are and don't ask the questions that don't matter to you.
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>>720422507
There a shortcut you can open between the terminus and the cradle after you fight a boss.
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What do you get from Eve for maxing out all your crests?
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>literally just realized that The Unraveled is the same big fuckin' cylinder shape as the statue of the Conductor
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>>720425884
It's past the gay firework butterfly. Go down and then left and hten you'll see a bunch of giant robots. She's somewhere above, but you need the grappler to reach her. It's somewhere further in the area.
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>>720426570
Yeah. I'd say a lot of it gets better around Greymoor and Bellhart, when you get past a lot of the samey looking forest areas
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>>720426856
I mean more, the music you're hearing while exploring. That's been very underwhelming, though this is much better than the generic music that plays during early boss fights
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>>720427009
>Greymoor
That's actually one of the areas I was most disappointed by. I hate that it fe
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>>720426570
it does, but hollow knight still squarely beats it in the music department
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>>720426424
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els like the soundtrack is afraid to have any kind of percussion or groove, with the areas all being very drab looking
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>>720425315
Why did he save her? I never got the feeling he really cared about her.
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>>720426424
It’s in greymore
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>>720427079
>hollow knight still squarely beats it in the music department
That's pretty bad, then. The first game's OST was very forgettable by metroidvania standards.
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>>720426989
free silk refill when you sit on a bench
just like salubras blessing in the first game
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>>720427069
Damn, Moorwing killed him. Inshallah.
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>>720427127
All part of doing the job.
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>>720427163
what metroidvanias have significantly better music than hollow knight? I thought its OST was pretty good.
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HORNET EATS HER OWN MATES CONFIRMED.
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>>720427223
'twas the bird gauntlet that killed the unprepared
Anyway, Greymoor is the area that finally taught me how to pogo and after I went back to Hunter's March it felt like a cakewalk
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>>720422507
>And I still haven’t gotten silk and song. Can anyone help?
You go in the cage and then you can open a door after that leads to the Terminus so you can tube your way back to Songclave
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>>720426931
>>720426941
oh alright, I was assuming there was another NPC to save, that makes sense.
>>720426968
>don't be that guy who looks at his phone during a movie and then asks why nothing makes sense.
I'm trying to figure out if this is relevant to some questline - the first thought through my head was "Its probably Lace, but just in case I'm missing something I should check and see if somethings changed in the Citadel"
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>>720422507
>And I still haven’t gotten silk and song. Can anyone help?
Gotta beat lace
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>>720422507
I got the quest after being Lace at the cradle. I had all the fleas
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>someone said they had 9 masks by the end of act 2
>need 2 more fragments to get my 9th mask
>decided to look at a map
>went to every spot where I got a mask fragment
>have all of them besides the 4 in act 3
What the fuck?
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>>720426570
I really like the Cog area's music, 10/10
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>>720427521
some of the mask fragments are locked behind quests
hope you're ready for a beastfly rematch
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>>720427323
>what metroidvanias have significantly better music than hollow knight?
Symphony of the Night, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Metroid Zero Mission, Aria of Sorrow off the top of my head
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>friend thinks he can 100% before fighting silk mommy with the trap
>refuses to listen to me that he can't but can't tell him there's an act 3
how the fuck do i make him progress
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>>720427602
I did that one already. There's 3 in act 3 that give fragments from quests. 1 I need the ability from act 3. I don't know where these other 2 are
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How do I get back into the cradle in Act III? I'm chasing a mushroom.
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>>720427720
look at the map, you should see a few passages
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>>720427672
One is sold in songclave, another in bilewater, long maggot jumping room. Another in putrefied ducks I think pale lake.
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I HATE LOST LACE SO FUCKING MUCH
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>>720427605
metroid games have alright OSTs but I can't think of any songs I would say definitely clear hollow knights'. I think you just might be feeling nostalgic. I won't speak for castlevania because I never got into those entries
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The 1st patch is now live and the game is officially the ez mode version. Reminder that if you did not 100% the game before updating you did NOT beat the game.
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>>720422507
>Using a guide before even "finishing" the game and cucking yourself out of the experience
Do niggies really? learning about act 3 was kino.
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>>720427780
I've gotten those. I'm literally going back through these areas and triple checking
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>>720427831
Dude this shit takes 78 hours to 100%, no one should be fully finishing it before the patch
I know you’re just joking though lol
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>>720427329
>SANS ATE ALL THE FOOD IN THE FRIDGE
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>>720427890
Im a slowpoke compared to some of the other times I saw.
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>>720427890
Wrong pic FUCK
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>>720427805
Ganbare anon, you want some tips?
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>>720427970
PLEASE

I keep getting fucked in the second phase, if I even get there. I can consistently get to P2 if I spam my tool but it feels like the projectiles are impossible to dodge, and sometimes they just appear in my path when I'm dodging something else.
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>>720427808
>I think you just might be feeling nostalgic
Nah, metroid and castlevania games seem to just have more memorable soundtracks in general. Metroid dread is definitely a notable exception, though, it only has like one area with a memorable theme, same as the first hollow knight
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I think all three are S tier fights but I think I would rank them thusly:
Best Fight: Karmelina
Hardest Fight: Lost Lace
Favorite Fight: Clover Dancers
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>>720428063
Projectiles are way easier to dodge on the ground. This was something I learned way back in Hollow Knight and it still holds true. I understand sometimes you gotta jump when Lace is doing some other bullshit but try to do it as little as possible.
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Not only there is nothing special for doing twisted child on steel soul, you dont even get steel soul achievement for finishing the game.
They literally fucking forgot to flag twisted child as an ending for steel soul.
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>Eve tells me to come and see her if my nature changes
>Get stuck with some sort of parasite, figure Eve will probably be able to help
>STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME YOU FILTHY DISEASE RIDDEN WALKING CARRION
Thanks for nothing, Eve
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>>720422507
>Nyleth
Oh, the game is bad again. What a roller coaster this has been.
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>>720428063
Whenever she parries you just jump straight up to dodge both variants of her ripost and get some hits in
When she summons her void projectiles don't dash and sprint she will spawn in your path half the time. Either dash on alternate sides and jump
By the way, phase 2? My man, you're barely in the warmups
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>>720428141
You mean I gotta give up the sprint attack double jab into double jump to dodge both of her potential counters? This is gonna be a slow ass fight.
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>>720427741
kek yeah, I was relying on the map more than my fuckin eyes to find that entrance
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>>720428209
Man one of the things that's going to drive me crazy is finding all the weird dialogues you can easily miss in a playthrough. I never even got Pilby's name in mine.
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>>720428238
>spoiler

I am so completely and utterly fucked. You have no idea how fucked I am. I've been at this for like 45 minutes now. I seriously have no idea how I've gotten this far. Hollow Knight was a piece of cake compared to this game.
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>>720428209
I never actually found out what it was that caused "my nature to change".
I've went back to her after getting a new crest and it didn't do anything
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>>720428251
No I just mean try to stay grounded when she's doing the projectile attack specifically. Like you see her do that you stop jumping unless you have to because you move slower in the air.
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>>720426570
Act 2 has great music so far.
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>>720426570
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4WCRgzUlRw
i liked choral chambers
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>>720428236
Bro, she's easy. Restful, even. Maybe find the tool that lets you hold on a wall without slipping, I think it's sold by the little thief
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So I've been using Wanderer crest since I found it since I just cannot stand the diagonal pogo. I've seen people call it a crutch, others suggest finding Reaper. Recommendations? I don't want to pump any crest slot enhancers into wanderer if I'm going to come across a better one, or if I should try to get reaper.

As far where I'm at I found the fleas and got a ride with the caravan to a new area. After that I went back and have been dinking around in previous areas. I have the dash, wall cling, Needolin. I lack double jump and air gliding. Currently I've been trying to find the last three polyps for the quest in Shellwood but I can't fucking find the damned things. I swear I've been everywhere.
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>>720428297
Probably when you obtain a new ability from binding?
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>>720428297
I think it's investing memory lockets into your crests
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>>720428297
it depends on how many memory lockets you use
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>>720428236
>>720428348
>equip wall stick tool
>grapple, smack, run away
>she charges, get a hit in, run away
>repeat
Super easy, barely an inconvenience.
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>finish 100% completion
>start working on monster journal
>thought I already had all bosses done
>mfw I find Watcher at the Edge
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>>720428348
Nah it’s from the merchant in songclave 200 rosaries
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>>720428348
>>720428403
I have that tool, and I cannot think of a single argument why I'd want to use it when I can walljump/pogo/Harpoon. It's just that she keeps point-blanking me with her vomit attack.
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>>720428357
I'm most of the way through the game and wanderer has served me perfectly well. the fast attack speed makes it good for both damage and silk generation on bosses, and the pogo is good for normal enemies.
plus, you get plenty of memory lockets so there's no real need to worry about not being to upgrade the crests you like
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>>720428286
She took me 2 and a half hour anon, don't worry about it.
She has a relatively small amount of HP, don't play aggressive, just wait until she comes for you. I never tried to push some hits in when she was spitting gobs of void or summoning shooters, I just waited for her to go back to a melee attack
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>Shaman crest and Volt Filament are act 3 exclusive
>having 3 skill slots is way worse than having 3 tool slots
>Shaman only has 2 blue slots and no yellows
>Shaman can't heal in midair
meanwhile
>Architect and Quick Fling are act 2(Poison is act 1)
>tools are busted
>Architect's charge attack is busted
>Architect has 2 yellow and 2 blues
>Architect can heal in midair
Why did they do this?
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>>720428305
Understood. I did this on my last attempt and immediately noticed a difference. Gonna harden up.
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>>720428357
Dude ignore the memes just use the wanderer since you like it best. People recommended architect but it feels awkward to me.
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>>720428357
>Currently I've been trying to find the last three polyps for the quest in Shellwood but I can't fucking find the damned things. I swear I've been everywhere.
keep a lookout for the purple and white flowers, as those are your only hint. the locations can be pretty well-hidden
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>>720422507
How do you start Final Audience?
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>>720428209
man, i never thought to ask around and see what all everyone thought of the parasite.
i was just so fed up with the stupid fucking crying that i was deadset on removing it and its consequences ASAP.
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>>720428450
Pierce brosnan memes
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>>720428408
>start working on monster journal
Whats the mosnter between the squrimm and the shardilard
>spoiler
the fucking what?
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>>720428506
Look for a secret in the first room of Sands of Karak with those tree platforms.
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I don't use TOOLS, I don't use SILK SKILLS, I don't use NEEDLE ARTS, I slash and I HEAL, and if I DON'T heal, I DON'T LI
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>>720428506
the sandcarvers (aka those bastards that pop up all the time in the blasted steps)
just throw a tool of your choice at them
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>>720428696
i had no idea you could even kill those
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>>720428081
bait and shitpost
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why is the charge-up attack so useless in this game compared to in hollow knight (hell in that game you had three of them)?
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sister of the void ending is the PEAKEST I have ever felt in gaming for a long time
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>>720428823
Use architect
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Am I crazy or is something with Father of the Flame eating my double jumps? I mean to pogo then jump over a wisp but I just parachute and eat shit.
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I genuinely don't know where the 2nd weapon upgrade is. I know the gourmet mission gives one, but I can't find anything similar in the citadel going off of looks.
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>jump
>enemy appears in the trajectory of my jump and attacks me with 0.2 seconds of reaction time to avoid the damage
>die to the same boss for like the 30th time

great game
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>>720428973
Well why did you jump? You control what buttons you press
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>>720422507
What? All I had to do was move the flea caravan once and talk to 3 npcs to get it
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>>720428894
don't hold down when you try to double jump. Died way too many times to flame before I realised it was doing that
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>Hornet telling Lace that even a god can fall speaking from experience
Kino, just kino.
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>>720428894
I was having the same issue before I decided to say fuck it
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I beat Nyleth, but there's no way anyone actually defends that design, right? What an unenjoyable fight. It only took me a few tries, but man, it was just so lame.
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>>720428236
just spam lightning rods at her
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>>720429006
To avoid the thing you dingus

>jump to avoid thing, get telefucked by boss, die
>don't jump do avoid thing, thing hits me, die

Choose carefully, Anon
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>>720428894
you, your hands, and your brain are the reason single jump gliding just got patched out for everyone
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>>720429072
>Wanderer
You did not beat him by any stretch of the imagination.
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>>720428823
you get a blue that makes it a lot shorter........at the end of the game
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>>720429162
Clearly I did
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>>720429072
oh yea new rule, magma bell isn't real either
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>>720429082
I thought it was fine but probably not worthy of being one of the three (actually four) big important motherfuckers of Pharloom's ancient past. Krusty Krab kinda sucks too. Honestly doing Karmelina first was probably a big mistake because she set a bar nothing else could meet except for Clover Dancers.
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how do i make beast crest good
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>>720428949
It's somewhere in the Citadel but it's just lying around
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>>720429082
i actually really liked that fight
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>>720429082
The fight is fine but yeah it's a little underwhelming. When the Shamans talked about her I was hyped because I thought it was going to be the same kind of being as the Pale Lady
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>>720429345
there's one you can get without doing the gourmet shit, right? where is it?
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>>720429334
you dont homie
its the worst crest for no reason sadly
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Got the Lace 3 wall stuck glitch. I’ve had three different game effecting glitches this past session, when I previously had 0, just a graphical one.
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>>720429449
Yes there is, I don't remember exactly where though
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>>720429416
But why?
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>>720429128
the devs could've made it a toggle, or made the binding something else.
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>>720429449
I'll give you a hint, it's in this area
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>>720429526
mostly just phase 2
gimmicky enough to feel like a unique fight but not hard enough where it becomes annoying
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No idea what 4% I missed, don't really care. 9/10, great game. I'd say the difficulty was like a 7.5/10. Nine Sols was a 9.5/10 cause I'm not good at parry slop.
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>>720429634
Was there a phase 2? Or do you just mean when the floor breaks away?
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So in terms of lore power how would you rank;
> Radiance
> Pale King
> NK Grimm
> Shadelord
> Silk
> Lost Lace
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>>720429449
you gotta beat the cogwork dancers, go inside the cogworks, and go east. from there, your prize will be in a room located a bit north of the grand bellway that can only be accessed from the vaults
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>Get infected with the bud in Act 3 (don't ask me how it took me so long)
>Dude tells me to look for the hermit below Bellhart so he can tell me where to find a doctor
>I may have already met him because I have the Bellhart shortcut already but it's been so long I forgot
>Spend somehow 30 minutes looking all over for him despite the fact that he's literally 10 seconds from the entrance, I just constantly took the wrong turn
>When I finally meet him I trigger his Act 3 dialog instead
>Nothing I do (leaving and coming back, resting in a separate area, quitting the game) gets him to aknowledge that I'm sick
>By pure luck I happen to remember the bellhome in Greymoor that told me to bring something squirming inside
>Worth a shot
>It was the correct NPC
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>>720422507
>I moved the fleas to the lake
the number of fleas matters as well for some godforsaken reason
I was running around like a headless chicken since I did mostly everything I could think of, then I freed some more fleas (caravan was by lake) and suddenly I could progress
fucking bullshit is what it is
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>act 3
>at old hearts quest
>still no hollow knight
>still no explanation of what was growing in hallownest

So was the post-credits scene of Godmaster just dropped?
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Does anyone else feel like not refilling your silk at a bench is stupid? I don't mind silk as a mechanic, but it's tedious to make you refill it every time you respawn. Say you're fighting a boss? You're forced to fight a few things instead of getting back into the action against the boss. Making you refill it yourself during battle, exploring, in a boss fight, that makes sense. If you're starting from a rest stop I see no reason not to just fill you up.
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Taking about progress, I just got the wings from mountain something. I think I have all movement upgrades now.
How far into the game am I to get true ending
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>>720427654
Just tell him there is post game stuff that counts towards completion and that he has to beat Silk again to access it.
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>>720429726
>he doesn't know
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>>720429726
there's one more upgrade later
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Yep. An hour and a half in, and I still can't beat Lost Lace

At least I can somewhat consistently get to the third phase now. The fact that I can barely see where the abyss tendrils spawn is fucking bullshit
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>>720429693
yeah that
i kinda assumed that was phase 2 but since it happens so early you're right it's a bit debatable
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>>720428949
Does the first upgrade even do anything? I've attacked shit and it takes the same amount of hits they took before I got the thing. Was rather disappointed.
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>>720429334
equip the drill to make up for your shit pogos
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Is Wanderer crest overtuned? I've been one shotting bosses since using it
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>>720428286
>45 min
You are like Baby. I was sleep deprived and I fought her for SIX HOURS because I refused to leave and come back with more health and the last of the Eva upgrades. Or to switch to a different Crest, because I felt like Hunter was themetically appropriate. Seriously, trying to fight against her with only 7 masks was a fucking mistake.
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>>720428949
Fight the Enemy Gauntlet in Lower Cogworks Core, once you beat it you'll be able to enter that nail shop that was blocked off in Choral Chambers and you'll find Pale Oil there.
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>>720429808
>8 masks
You didn't beat Phantom
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>>720429724
you get a skill for that. also you dont need to fill your meter up at all times OCD-chan. just hit the boss.
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So aside from Lace & Phantom what other artificial children did Silk create after the Weavers bailed, also do you think we could face any in the DLC, like maybe something akin to Lost Kin in HK where they've been claimed by some other higher being?
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I love when a boss has a 3rd phase that’s just so much more annoying than their first 2.
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>>720429971
We will get a City of Steel DLC(all content locked behind Steelsoul mode)
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>>720429808
the low range balances it, I think. though if you are skilled it probably is one of the best non-gimmick crests
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>>720430002
Which boss are you referring to?
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>>720428063
the multibinder + injection tool carried me through the fight, super fast healing that heals for 4? yes please
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>>720428845
my little nigga knight
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>>720429890
Thats the other thing, game got way easier when I started collecting the mask shards. I can make huge mistakes like at the start of the webm and learn boss patterns now instead of dying near instantly.

>>720430028
Ya, its a pain to hit certain enemies like the ones that jump around all over in bileswamp
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>>720430032
Lace 3.
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>>720430018
Perhaps, if not an outright Steel Soul mode DLC I could see them doing something roguelike in nature where you'd have to complete the entire DLC in one life ala Steel Soul but each attempt would have a different layout for the location, you kinda see it already happening with The Mist as a very small version but the layout of traps, wraiths and butterflies changes between each appearance of the rooms so there's degrees to what TC can change for such a system.
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>>720430002
>I just love when [...] a boss [...] is more annoying
Silksong in a bugshell.
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>>720429781
Good luck anon. That's the true skill test
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>>720430201
oh I'm bug nutting alright
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>>720430054
Fuck, I really don't wanna give up my DPS, and I definitely don't wanna give up my nail length.
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I'm gonna 100% this game and then give it a negative review because the devs never stop fucking with you
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I get all these errors and stuff in my Player.log
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>>720429781
What do you mean you can't see where they spawn? Doesn't the floor light up?
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>>720430347
Maybe I'm not paying enough attention but every single time I've gotten hit by the tendrils I didn't notice them until it happened
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>>720429697
>Shadelord
HUGE POWER GAP
>Radiance
>NK Grimm
>Pale King
>Silk
Power Gap
>Lost Lace

Imo Grimm, Silk, And PK are probably around the same level and matchups matter more than their overall power so you could mix them all up.
Shade Lord beats everyone's ass and it's not even a fucking contest. You could have all of them at the same time try to jump Shade Lord and Ghost would not care, shit Ghost could probably do it in vessel form.
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>>720430284
long nail on wanderer barely makes any difference imo besides maybe hitting flyers and lace don't fly as much
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>Missing one memory locket and it's not in a shop
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>>720430404
Pogoing her is a big part of my DPS whenever she counters. I guess I'll try without. Can't hurt considering how many tries I've had at this now
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>>720430380
The boss got way easier when I started dashing down to get back to the ground faster so I could get more swings in, like when the boss jumps in the air dash down so I can land in time to get the hit in when she lands.
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>>720430505
PLEASE tell me there's a checkpoint after her since she's clearly not the final boss.
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>>720428450
Architect being able to turn every enemy into the game into a total joke is balanced by forcing you to grind out shards for hours to use it.
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Just how much content does this game have holy shit
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I'm so mad I forgot there were rings right next to The Slab.
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>>720430626
A bit too much. I just did one of the races with the sprintmaster and I don't really feel like doing two more. Probably just gonna beeline finishing the game now unless the reward is really, really good.
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>>720430401
I'd generally agree with this, I only really included Lost Lace since she's also a final boss. But yeah I mean Shadelord outright beats Radiance. This might just be from the vibes but I think Silk is a notch lower than the others and would probably be more comparable to White Lady, just given the inherent control Radiance, Grimm & PK have over dream essence and elements like PK being able to hide the Palace away or Radiance being able to infect Hallownest without even being physically present.

Silk having to be physically present, plus her silk seems less effective than the Radiance's infection. I think her also being the creator of the Weavers makes me think of her more of being in line with Unn (Mosskin) and White Lady (Pre-Abyss Vessels). So I'd probably go;

> Shadelord
> Radiance
> Pale King/NK Grimm
> Silk
> Lost Lace
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>challenge Grandmother Silk
>see a spider crawling up my wall behind my monitors
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>Architect Crest
>lifeblood syringe
>flea brew
>flint

HOW IS THIS FUCKING BALANCED
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>>720430408
Aside from Quests, did you get the one in Blasted Steps? Can't remember if it was in the room with Shakra, or the room next to Judge.
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>>720422507
Are there actually enough memory lockets to upgrade all the crests? I'm missing one and I can't find it even when using a guide
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>>720429563
What's wrong with down + jump? Why is the player base so fucking retarded that they can't relax during platforming and need to mash their buttons to the point that their bad inputs have to be rewarded.
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>>720427672
do you have the one in the brightvein cave in mount fay? that was my last one.
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>>720430950
I got all the ones before Act 3
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>>720430884
Because you hold down when you pogo you oaf. It's very likely that someone could still be holding it when they jump afterwards. They don't even explain the mechanic to you so people think it's a glitch
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>if you get enough lifeblood masks your health bar will "break" and turn into entirely fast regenerating lifeblood masks until you sit at a bench
If this works in Steel Soul...
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You VILL eat ze plasmium!
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>>720430884
bad input =/= accidentally triggering a shortcut that was never explained to the player and is very easy to trigger
had that shit kill me several times during the bell eater fight despite knowing it exists because its way too fucking easy to pogo and double jump fast enough that my fingers simply do not have time to move.
they could've very easily made it so that holding jump triggers the double jump skip while
there's also no practical use for skipping the double jump the only places it could possibly be usable, you already have clawline which is the same thing but better for those extremely specific cases.
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Is there anything I can permanently miss if I don’t finish it in act 1? Or act 2?
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>>720430680
Tip for Sprintmaster if you Clawline through him he stumbles.
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>>720431196
Yeah I noticed that in the first race I'm just kinda ready for the game to be over now.
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>>720431117
How many do you have to get, I just got into Act 3?
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I have been here for almost three hours

Evens I give it one more try before going to bed
Odds I fucking beat this stupid cunt before I am allowed to sleep
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>>720426682
Path of Pain > Sands of Karak > White Palace > Mount Fay
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>>720431302
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>>720422976
You cant ruin your save, the game resets back to before you killed final boss.
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>>720431302
Did you play a song for him, Anon?

He cries while singing in that room
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>>720431315
Get to work Nigga.
The GOAT is rooting for you.
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>>720431306
One of the devs clearly played Bravely Default 2
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>>720431350
I did, my poor boy is broken..
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>>720431315
I want to mcfuckingkill myself
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>>720431331
Have you done the mister mushroom climb yet? Total pain in the ass.
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>>720431382
I never beat Bravely Default 2
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>>720430997
You're wrong, though. Downward slashes are downward diagonal left or right presses. The glide shortcut only comes out when you hold down independently on a jump, it's an intentional long input. If you're only holding down to pogo you are prone to way more errors and likely playing reaper or wanderer where accuracy doesn't matter at all. I agree that the mechanic should have been explained when you got double jump, but it's removed anyway so it what it is.
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>>720431404
It uses a very similar gimmick to unlock the final act
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>>720428450
>hollow knight
>up to 198 soul capacity
>consume 33 for a heal or spell - up to 6 stored at once
>or with a charm, consume 24 for 8.25 spells/heals
>generate 11 on hit - a heal or spell in 3 hits (1.5 hits if you use both generation charms, 1.1 if you use the cost charm)
>silksong
>greater focus on using your skills and
>18 silk capacity - 21 with a charm
>consume 9 for a heal - up to 2 heals at once
>consume four for a skill - up to 4 skill usages at once (+capacity, 5)
>or with a charm - 6 held skill usages at once (+capacity, 7)
>btw an extremely important movement tool uses your silk as well
the fact that the game went through seven years of development without any of the devs realizing "hey wait this is a bad idea, maybe add a separate silk meter for skills?" is fucking ridiculous.
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>>720429713
You are lucky they fixed this last patch, because you should have done the cure in Act 2. Act 3 kills another NPC you need for that quest. I wonder if they just put the steel spikes on the ground in that area where they would have been.
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im tired of wave challenge rooms. just stop this shit. its tedious and artificial difficulty
>J-J-JUST USE TOOLS N ABLITIESLAID
yeah nah i gotta farm shards because bad game design. fuck flying enemies too.
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>>720430401
>>720430701
Why is Silk so fucking weak?
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Does the long nail tool even do anything? I dont feel it or see it? Fuck. Act 3 also fucking what the fuck, any good spots to farm rosaries in act 3 i need like 10k to buy all shops. Bone bottom thieves??
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>>720425996
>if you find her again beating down some of the niggas go back to the wish board.
NTA but I did and I don't see any quest involving the sex robot.
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>>720431414
You won't be holding the diagonal if you want to pogo in place, which is pretty common in the more tight platforming sections where you're just hovering in place to get your bearings.
They should have just let you toggle upgrades like Super Metroid
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>>720431306
god i love fakeout endings
>ahhh the bastards, only made it worse with the trap.
>now to go back in and unlock the third act so that i can get the GOOD end-
>ah
i want to say that more devs should do it, but it loses its appeal if everyone does it.
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>>720431414
>Downward slashes are downward diagonal left or right presses
says who?
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>>720430874
Ok I found it, it was hidden in one of the coccoons near the secret bench in bilewater. Just another reason to hate that place
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the runback to challenge rooms is incredibly insufferable. probably the worst design decision ever made. completely rng fest of flying enemies. worst than just doing a fuckin normal boss.
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>>720431350
When he started ringing his stuff during the fight at a fast place, like it would help I truly felt sad for the guy. I teared up when playing the needlein for him too.
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>>720431548
not every high being is born equal
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>>720431375
I can't even get to phase 3 anymore and my eyes feel like dried raisins. Gonna give it a few more attempts. Last number of my post dictates how many tries.
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>>720431414
I play on KBM there's no "downward diagonal", the game suddenly not registering my double jump when I'm pogoing off an enemy has gotten me killed and and trolled me during plataforming challenges. And letting go of down when I'm pogoing, double jump, then holding down again to pogo is incredibly unintuitive and there's no way to turn it off.. And I play Hunter crest the whole playthrough.
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uhhh, did i take a wrong turn somewhere?
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>>720429789
It barely does anything, but the second and third upgrades are more noticeable.
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>>720431693
nevermind, i missed the opening right above me. guess i'm doing this again real quick
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>>720427387
>I’ve already found 2 items for this despite being nowwherw near the end of act 2
Neat
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>>720431179
Clawline isn't a free action, if you wanted to hover the gap between a flying and ground enemy without the extra jump height which would cause contact damage with the enemy above you, then you're shit out of luck now. And yeah, you're playing with bad habits, just let go of the fucking buttons while your pogo animation is playing out
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>>720431676
just go to sleep. your subconscious will automatically adjust your muscle memory and pattern regconizing neurons for you. you will get better at the game after u wake up, not even joking this is how brain works.
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>>720431676
>>720431781
It's true, you'll probably first-try it tomorrow
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top 3 areas?
For me they are:
>sand of karak
>cogwork core
>high halls
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>>720431781
>>720431807
After five more attempts
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>>720431751
the last two are tied to the quest itself, so good job.
i only found the seeker's soul because i stumbled into bilewater while exploring the vaults and it became personal.
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>>720431627
It's pretty hard to do it at the scale TC did.
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>Just got to the final boss
MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY
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game needs more exploration without mandatory arena fights with random faggots to halt your progress before you can explore more

people shit on mount fay but that felt actually fun since it was just pure platforming
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Mount Fay
Deep Docks
Cogwork Core
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>>720431117
You also lose the effect if you bell beast, so have to be careful with that.
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>>720431865
the only people complaining about mandatory arena fights are shitters dying in them. for anybody else it's a temporary obstacle that resolves itself in about a minute
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>>720431548
I'm not sure if you're asking that as a genuine question or that's your assertion, but for me (second anon) as I stated in my previous post I view Silk as being more comparable to Unn & White Lady in terms of power, she really doesn't seem to have had the same reverence and power over her kingdom that PK did and the lack of any indication of connection to the dream essence is somewhat of a mark against her. Although yes the Silk does have the ability to puppet lesser bugs like the Radiance's infection, I think given we see pretty significant populations in Bone Bottom, Bellhart & Songlave that exist independent of her direct control somewhat marks against her. Consider that the Radiance was even able to infect the mind of someone as powerful as Sly and the Radiance was also doing all this while only really existing within the dreams of the bugs of Hallownest whereas Silk has to be physically present in the world to exert her influence. I'd say that if it wasn't for PK being able to hide the White Palace and himself in the dream then I wouldn't consider him quite so highly.
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>>720431780
i use wanderer because its faster, so there's really not that much time.
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>>720431929
The 3 you have to do back to back in act 3 are shit, and the ones before bosses are also shit
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>>720431813
1. Mount Fay
2. Cogwork Core
3. Blasted Steps
Honestly, I think a lot of people overblow the difficulty of Mount Fay.
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>>720431496
He would be the best and most hated boss in the game purely because if you hit his parry he pogos you for three masks. But if you try to pogo him back he abyssal shrieks your ass.
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>>720431865
The arena complaints seem overblown desu

The only arena fight in the game that really stood out to me was High Halls
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you didn't beat the game
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>>720431813
Sands of Karak
Hunter's March
Choral Chambers
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>>720432028

mount fay is one of the easiest act 2 areas
there's almost no threats and the platforming is pretty easy even with the time limit, it just exposes the absolute shitters on /v/
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>>720431813

> Whiteward
> Mount Fay
> Memorium

Memorium not having a boss fight is fucking criminal, it's the Hive all over again
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>>720432060
they showcase a lot of issues with the game.
flying enemies, input reading, projectile homing, rng, overkitted enemies

its one thing if its a ton of just basic enemies with 1 attack, its another when its 3-4 of these people with 3-4 moves and everything i jsut bitched about
also lets put in a silk sucker in there, fuck it.

the run backs to these are also just so fuckin atrocious compared to regular boss run backs.
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>>720432028
mount fay is pretty easy but the freeze timer adds just enough stress that its easy to fuck up and fudge your inputs if you let it get to you.
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What are your theories for what happens after the game?
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>>720432080
what could they have possibly nerfed in sister splinter, it was already really easy
did someone make a comparison yet?
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>>720432080
it makes the game harder though
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>>720431929
yeah i can cheese with tools but i dont feel like farming for fuckin rosarios to buy tool bags every time bud.
which is another fuckin issue with this game.
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>>720432050
If I get abyssal shrieked in a boss fight im bombing TC
>>720432181
Hornet goes home and cries over Little Ghost
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>>720429723
The True End in Silksong heavily implies that "Dream No More" is the canon ending.
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>>720432159
there is no input reading. its enemies reacting to your current state which is what they should do.
THIS is input reading
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>>720432202
My guess would be only 1 summon instead of 2 of the spinning fuckers.
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>>720432181
Hornet feeds Lace silk from now on

Very hot
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>>720426981
pretty sure you can do it before boss, don't press Challenge and walk to the right
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>>720432273
Wtf no its Embrace The Void or Flower Ending did you completely miss the Lord of Shades flash on Ghost?
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>>720432360
>did you completely miss the Lord of Shades flash on Ghost?

Que?
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>>720432360
they kept it as a flash because no one but autists cares about the godhome endings and it would confuse the shit out of most players
it's kept vague on purpose
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>>720432285
a mob throwing a projectile last minute to what you are pressing on the direction pad is the same nigga.
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>>720432257
80 shards are 50 rosaries, you're just a bitch unfortunately.
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Is this patch I just downloaded the boss nerf one?
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>>720432461
if you can prove that idle enemies do it 100% of the time on input, then i will believe you. but i have never seen that myself.
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>>720431643
I destroyed that one on a whim, after getting frustrated with the boss and got the locket. Probably the most insane place to put it in, there is no reason to attack these unless it has a sparkly. What a trollass area, unbelievable.
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>>720432360
Anon, it's vague enough on purpose to follow either
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>>720432523
>prove it
nah man. but dont refute the other points. stick to that one example for some reason.

these fuckin kunai fat fuck bugbirds are a good example of total bullshit. same with the silk suckers and their immaculate spacing that is almost robotic

"reacting to your position" is probably the dumbest fuckin defense to allow this in a metroidvania. but you guys dont actually like those games, you just love this indie slop over other good ones.

just remember theres a reason for omnidirectional whips and normal range attacks for shit like this in those games while you get a needledick sword. its even funnier because the flying enemies in those games dont have the hitbox of a fuckin m&m and your character doesn't take 1/8th of the screen with the most busted retarded hitbox taking up your whole head.
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>>720432181
Abyss is contained, Pharloom probably still collapses given it seems to be a kingdom that could only really exist under the control of a Higher Being. Could see new kingdoms popping up in the aftermath though, a mixture of the pilgrims going their own ways and the various populations of separate bugs that seem like good candidates from starting new kingdoms;
> Craws
> Fleas
> Ants

Biggest issues I can see would be the following;
> Do the Morticians in the Whiteward kill off the remaining Dregs cause otherwise I could see silk-starved Dregs being incredibly dangerous
> The fate of the three industrial sections of Hallownest (Deep Docks, Underworks, The Slab), do these bugs attempt to start their own kingdoms or just leave, their populations are probably the highest for singular areas, I personally could see Underworks somewhat working if Twelfth Architect could organize things
> Does the Lifeblood infection in Wormways stay contained or does it run amok, it's probably the biggest threat to life in Pharloom once Silk and the Void are out of the picture, if not then I could see it just snuffing out any vestiges or at least pushing them to an extreme somewhat like what we saw happen to the Weavers in Hallownest
> If possible, the inhabitants of Sinner's Road & Bilewater unify, with Groal out of the picture I think there's potential for at the very least rudimentary society to exist, probably not working with the bugs from Greymoor or the Craws but still
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>>720432672
>those fucking kunai fat fuck bugbirds
*stands under them*
>silk suckers
*throws a knife/presses left trigger*
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>>720432690
At the very least post-void Pharloom will be way more alive than post-plague Hallownest
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>>720432401
[Spoiler] In the true ending the Lord of Shades face flashes on Ghost for a split second, heavily implying that ghost is the lord of shades.[/spoiler]
>>720432450
>Yeah dude it's just a nod to the ending rather than a direct implication.
That is retarded and does not fit how Team Cherry does things. They're not gonna shove something as huge as that into the ending to not actually imply anything.
>>720432589
HOW THE FUCK IS THAT VAGUE HE LITERALLY IS ON SCREEN. Its clear as day unless you're autistic.
>For no reason at all, the lord of shades appeared.
Why are Dream No More fags like this?
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>>720432339
Does Lace slurm the silk from Hornet's shell like spaghettis?
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>>720432743
he didn't say that these enemies are hard though
he talked about the input read
you miss the point
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Can any anons confirm me if the snitch pick is working or not before patch?
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>>720432751
>HOW THE FUCK IS THAT VAGUE HE LITERALLY IS ON SCREEN. Its clear as day unless you're autistic.
Calm down anon. He's the lord of shade from the moment he gets the voidheart. They show both his form from Dream No More and from Embracing the Void, you can literally use your same logic to argue the opposite
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>>720427965
Genuine question, what are you doing to make it take this long? Did you play 100% blind even when trying to search for the last mask shard out of 20? I started using guides when I was completely out of ideas of where to look and I'm pretty sure I would've never found the few things I was missing by myself.
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>>720432919
I got some 48hrs to 100%, only asking here what I was missing or didn't know what to do.
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Where do I take the psalm cylinders? Have I already found a gramaphone? The game is so big I can't fucking remember
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The Bell Eater is absolute fucking cancer, dude. There's nothing I can do. There's spam everywhere, there's nothing I can do to avoid getting hit by the bombs, he sprays shit everywhere, and I don't have anywhere to go
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>act 3 intro
holy kino
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Here's a question no one asked yet since the original HK barely had any.

What was your favorite cutscene?
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>>720432748
That's definitely true in the immediate aftermath, my main question I guess is whether the bugs would stay or not. While I understand that at some point historically there were natural resources that allowed kingdoms to develop in Pharloom (The Green Prince, Khann, Karmelita's Kingdoms) it seems like Pharloom itself really only exists because of Silk. We don't really see an old kingdom that existed where the Citadel is and places like Bellhart and Bone Bottom cropped up in response to the Pilgrims rather than being a natural settlement.
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>>720432981
Whispering Vaults
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>>720432080
I have a fucking job man
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more like chump king am I right?
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>>720433036

Witch Crest scene
Yes im a sickfuck
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>>720432981
Whispering Vaults, there's a not dead Vaultkeeper who you give to him
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>>720432903
nta
DNM's form is Void given Form
ETV's is Void given Focus
I'd argue Focus is a greater form than Form, so if Ghost is Void given Focus then Void given Form is a given.
I'm leaning towards ETV because we never saw Focus in DNM, but Focus sorta implies Form.
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>>720433036
I'm a sucker for that moment when you have the void take Silk, Hornet gets knocked to the wall and there's just that silence as the Void dissipates before letting out a shock wave.
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>>720430758
He just wanted to watch bro.
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>>720433101
His fighting style would probably have been adequate to trash an army of mobs or repel some big fuckers but against Hornet it's like trying to fight a moskito with a mace.
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>>72043316
> you can save Pilby (killed by skull tyrant) [no idea what determines this]
> you can save Lumble the lucky (winning the dice off him convinces him to move forward)
WHO ELSE CAN BE SAVED I NEED TO KNOW, I WANT THE BASED MOLTING ANT WARRIOR DUDE TO BE SAVED
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>You've slain a marvel indeed... Well, flawed marvel, at least. One to keep far from she was, least for us mortal sorts. Look of a child and a mind to match, but her's been up wanderin' this Citadel longer'n most. Even in its long silence, way 'fore you came and roused its ire.
>Look of a child

HOW THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THIS A CHILD

TEAM CHERRY?????
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>>720432796
I wanna see art of Hornet serving lace a plate of her self made silk spaghetti
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>>720433330
She'll have plenty of time to mature after the ending
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>>720433330
Both Hornet and Lace are eternal lolis...
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>>720433397
I think he's commenting on her hips anon.
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>>720433432
Hornet is adult bug sized though. She's physically late teen at the youngest
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>>720431483
They fixed it and yeah the spikes are just on the ground. You also save on rosaries since they can't ask for money while dead.
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Is Wanderer crest a crutch? It has the highest DPS for almost no downside.
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>>720433541
She's the same size as Lace though and Shakra and some other NPC says she has the countenance of a child
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>>720433579
All I know is flying enemies were annoying as fuck until I equipped it. Now im killing all of them with no difficulty. Feel kinda bad using it because im not experiencing the new movesets but its just so good.
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>>720433541
I don't think size can tell you much, the different insect species vary wildly.
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>>720433579
>>720433671
Wanderers Crest + Hornets moveset is fucking insane
Once you get clawline you mog everything
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>>720433579
Tools are a crutch. Wanderer is as honest as it gets
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>>720422507
you need to do map girl(?)'s quest. I think it is unlocked by buying all the maps(?).
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>>720431350
>>>/wsg/5970668
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>>720433280
Any ideas on saving Pilby? What I've been hearing is don't do the Skull Tyrant hunt wish until act 2, and break the paid door mechanism in Pilgrim's Rest
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guys the final act 3 boss really kicked my shit in, probably the most difficult time ive had with a game in a while, i have no idea why. the only way I was able to beat it was taking 0 hits going into phase 3.
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>>720431350
Of course I did, never missed an excuse to try and get something interesting from the needolin.
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I hate the flea circus and I now wish I never saved all of these fucking cunts
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>>720434131
The festival was kino desu
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Do you think Hornet and Lace sleep next to each other in her bellhome?
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>>720434131
one of my flea dodge attempts ended at 64/65, was awesome and i liked that happening to me a lot
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>>720434184
Nah, Hornet keeps Lace on a silk chain like the artificial dog she is
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>Lace surviving
>Sherma surviving
>The fleas surviving
>Shakra surviving
This game is too nice compared to HK, I want to be hurt more.
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not really enjoying this game anymore. all the dumb fetch quests and grinding and rosary benches and bell beast traveling and boss runbacks ruined it. it's just trying too hard to piss you off and for what?
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>>720434236
Zanzibar...forgive me
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>>720434363
I'm fine with old warriors dying after a long life of fighting.
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>>720434236
Tons of npcs are dead by act 3, more than hollow knight probably
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>Boss is twice as difficult because your raging boner keeps distracting you
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>>720434184
hornet said to a npc she was gonna leave fartloom as soon as she calmed down the void. I think she said it to sherma
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>>720434467
Crazy how all the eusocial insects have the most fuckable women
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>>720434452
Yeah but I didn't like them.
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So was this a lie
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>>720434236
The only npcs that die in HK was the seer, gay mourner and mila. and two of those wanted it
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The funniest part about this is I missed an entire zone
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>>720434541
DLC
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Why are the Knight and Hornet such good designs?
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>>720434681
Verdania or Wicker?
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>>720434363
Rip lil nigga... and good luck to his steed
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Wonder where hollow knight goes from here
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>>720434541
blud got off screened
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>>720434773
Verdania. I even went there for the Craw Summon but I guess I didn't notice the giant hole in the fucking wall
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>>720422507
Hey, I just wanted to know if the parasite ending is worth getting, given it seems like it would be fairly difficult, for a bad ending.
I duped my save before I completed things, but is it even worth doing?
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>>720434871
It's not that hard given how easy the boss is.
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>>720432523
It's literally in the speedrun route, In Shellwood you attempt to Bind without enough Silk to aggro one of the flowers on the other side of a wall to lure it into pogo position to skip a few rooms.
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>>720434871
You're the only one who can tell how important an achievement is to you, what I can say is that Grandma Silk is definitely not the hardest boss to fight with a handicap at least.
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>Hornet has Lace now as a companion
>the Knight is chilling in the void
>presumably this follows Embrace the Void so the Hollow Knight is back in Hallownest too

WHY ARE ALL THREE SIBLINGS STILL ALIVE LMAO
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>>720434131
Awoo nigga
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>>720434871
worth how? you only get an achievement, new ending and the challenge of not being able to heal
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>>720434850
It feels like Lifeblood or Greyroot are the next big bads assuming they don't do something completely different. Hornet presumably goes back to Hallownest now that she doesn't have a reason to stay in Pharloom anymore, Lace I could see either going on her own adventure now that she's not living under the thumb of Silk although I wouldn't be surprised if she just went to Hallownest with Hornet or stayed in Pharloom as its protector or something.
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>>720434909
>>720434925
hmm, okay.
I was worried for a second but then I realized I wouldn't have to do any optional bosses.
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>>720434850
Multiple other foreign lands get mentioned.
>City of Steel
>Blackbarrens
>Sandsea Wastes
I would love a threequel set in a big city that isn't totally collapsed
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>>720434946
I hope we get dlc about all three together
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My favorite moment of the game was definitely the health bar getting more and more ornate
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>>720434953
worth the effort vs watching on Youtube
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>>720435007
>Blackbarrens
>Sandsea Wastes
These just sound like random zones in the wasteland between cities. City of Steel has potential though.
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>>720435007
Sandsea Wastes might just be the shithole deserts outside the kingdoms.

Definitely interested in City of Steel/Iron though.
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>>720435056
>>720435067
I hate the sound of City of Steel because it feels like all the enemies would be super tanky.
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>>720434186
>>720434156
>>720434949
I actually love the fleas I'm just mad and tilted at my own lack of skill
I never realised how bad my timing was until I did Flea Juggle.
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>>720434773
Whats Wicker, I never found anything like that.
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>>720435123
From what we know it's a kingdom thathas learned to somewhat control the void.

It's filled with void infused steel robots. Good luck.
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>>720434990
Lace needs to stay with Hornet or some equivalent silk producer just to survive, right?
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>>720435135
It's connected to greymoor and can be found by climbing one of the towers
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please god tell me all of these areas people are talking about are Act 3 locations - I can't take running around in Act 2 anymore I want to progress the story.
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>>720434850
Both the mask maker and mister mushroom seem to hint towards hornet getting another game
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>>720434990
>>720435149
Sharpe is a kickstarted backer boss that they still havent added
100% guarantees were getting steel dlc
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>>720435201
Then progress the story you don't get locked out of anything (I think)
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>>720434990
Giving that she eats soul silk to survive and the final menu screen >>720432181
Lace and Hornet are bound for life
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>>720435123
Perfect for endgame DLC content!
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>>720435231
I wonder if theyre going to go back to hallownest together
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>>720435201
There's only two Act 3 exclusive locations
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>>720435206
>another 10 year wait
imagine.....
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>>720434946
Probably because all three are extremely competent at not dying, also to be fair in the case of the Knight and the Hollow Knight they're quite literally the cream of their crop, most vessels never made it out of the Abyss, and most that did died at some point either to Nosk, the Radiance or Hornet.
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I wish there was a crest that had both diagonal and down pogo. I like using both depending on the situation. I wouldnt mind it being context sensistive to the thumbstick/pad being diagonal.
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>>720435336
Wait for the mod that allows you to style switch crests
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lol I'm watching a tips video you can actually taunt enemies by pressing R3 and jump attack is faster than on the ground
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>>720435206
See you in 2033
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>>720435180
>>720435231
Yeah that's true, I guess that could work as a justification for Lace getting her own game, if she somehow becomes separated from Hornet and has to find a new source of Silk, we saw with Willow and First Sinner that there are still Weavers out there although incredibly rare, so it could be Lace's initial goal would be finding one who can provide her with new silk, although as the "secret" endings could see Lace alter that quality of herself into some other creature (akin to the shedding PK did from Wyrm to Bug).
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What are the 3 smiths to fix the gun and what do they each do?
To my understanding so far it goes like this:
>deep docks bitch makes a pistol type thing
>architect guy makes something (don't know what)
>don't even know the last guy or what he makes unless I'm missing something obvious
Gonna do the ending with the leech then do silk and song
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>>720434912
... the flowers that are an absolute non-threat otherwise?
also
>caring about what speedrun niggers do
you lost the argument.
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>>720435390
Next game will be Silksong Portraits of Ruins edition
>Hornet!
>Lace!
>Hornet!
>Lace!
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>>720435336
I could see it being a Silk Skill, like when you attach it to a crest it'll cause the Silk Skill to do a version of that Crest's pogo attack but whichever of Diagonal or Down the Crest doesn't do.
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My first playthrough the map lady helped me with a battle in Hunters March but my second she didnt show up.
What a bitch.
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>>720434870
I missed it too, thanks for pointing me in the right direction
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>>720435436
It's been too long, was PoR the Castlevania game with the blonde Belmont (I don't think he was actually a Belmont but he wielded the Vampire Killer) and the mage chick and one of the levels was like an evil circus or something?
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>>720435436
more like
>GURAMA
>IKUYO
>GURAMA
>IKUYO
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I ended with "100% Completion" but I realized I never did anything with the craw summon.
did I miss something worthwhile there?
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>>720434467
Sex bug.
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>>720435484
Yes.
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Post your face when you first heard this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTicXQYw2ts
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>>720435424
I took it to the workshop on the mountain and it made like a railgun. was pretty good
didn't even think of taking it to the smiths
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>>720435494
A memento for your house and a boss fight
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>>720435494
You get some actually "useful" bling for your home, a nest you put at the entrance and it gets filled with some shards and rosaries over time.
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>>720435424
The third one is in mount fay (fair way up but not the very top).

It's really good because of the pierce.
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>>720435531
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>>720435424
Wait you have a fucking choice?
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I just lost 2k rosaries being careless in a lava zone. kill me. I was about to go on a shopping spree too.
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>>720435531
Born just in time to have a history of violin music be employed to score a videogame about a spider
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>>720435614
Please dont tell me you had silkeaters in your inventory
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>>720435606
The architect guy says he adds his own flair or whatever and then I saw people here saying that there are 3 but I only knew of 2.
>>720435539
>>720435573
Noted, probably will go for it before I go to bed
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>>720435614
I lost 3k in a certain act 3 zone because they just vanished even after I recovered my cocoon. Fortunately I don't need money at this point because I banked a ton of big rosaries, but it would've been nice to know
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>>720435650
I had 3, but I never use them unless I need them. But by the time I "need" them im already dead.
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>>720435424
>Forgedaughter gives it fire effects I think?
>Architect (my beloved) makes it do a three round burst
>Mask guy up on mount fay gives it piercing apparently
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I wish the Needlolin didn't consume Silk, I don't want to have to whack a mob a couple of times just to listen to a song
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>>720435691
God damn it anon
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>>720435691
The classic inventory fear. Think of it this way if you're worried about "wasting" them: if you never use them it's like you never had any to begin with.
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>>720435660
In mount fay though, you aren't looking for an npc to do the repair, just have to use the appropriate bench.
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>>720435691
there's an infinite source of them in sinner's path.
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The silk grub things are so much better than rotten eggs it's unreal
I literally never used the eggs in HK but in SS I used several silk grubs
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How much are the shard bundles in bellhart again?
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>>720435691
I got so many of the fuckers because of repeated deaths in the area where you get them for free. Last one I used netted me a cool 27 rosaries and left me with 7 bugs still.
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>>720423093
>When you beat the game you get sent back to the place before the final boss so it's fine.
>The first HK was like this as well so you could get all endings.
Haha... yeah...
I had no idea act3 even existed, and foolishly did the snare trap ending before the regular ending. Assuming the game would just send me back before what I presumed was the 'final' boss. Like in Hollow Knight.
Then the entire world was raped and I didn't get to replay the boss fight. Was an extremely cool surprise though that I wasn't expecting whatsoever.
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how do i get there?
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I'm genuinely impressed by all the soulful shit and interactions you can miss in this game.

It's just packed to the brim with it for no reason whatsoever.
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>>720435860
You were way less likely to die twice in HK and those eggs require you to backtrack all the way to Dirtmouth. Those eggs end up being more useful in Steel Soul mode because you can sell them
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>>720435531
For me it's;
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrBmFBL7Ei0
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>>720435887
50 rosaries each and I think they give you 40 shards?
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>>720435968
From the citadel
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>>720435968
Through the Citadel, near the crashed elevator
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>>720436002
Same, I'm pretty interested in seeing all the various flowcharts of outcomes you can get with time/progression based NPC interactions too.
Supposedly you can save Pilby if you break the pay2enter door at Pilgrim's Rest and don't do the Skull Tyrant grand hunt wish before Act 2
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>>720436005
It's weird how comfy that zone is despite the icy death time limit
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>>720436074
>Supposedly you can save Pilby if you break the pay2enter door at Pilgrim's Rest and don't do the Skull Tyrant grand hunt wish before Act 2
I think that just happened to me because I didnt get any funeral scene. Now I just need to find out where he is.
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>>720436114
My only issue with mount fay was the first time I ran into it I assumed I wasn't meant to go there because I didn't have an item to resist the cold
I nearly beat the first ending without it
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>Steel Assassins DLC is locked in
>Boss rush as the last DLC is locked in
What else are we hoping for? Knight duel DLC?
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>>720436174
Act 6:
Return to Hallownest
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>>720436174
lil ghost play through with nothing but his fists cause he is that op
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>>720436156
>I assumed I wasn't meant to go there because I didn't have an item to resist the cold
I think most people made that assumption. I know I did until I found the slab and it introduced me to the heat safespots. Made me go back to Mount Fay afterwards.
I'm inclined to think something like that is good game design; environmental hint/guidance without outright telling you what to do.
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Yesterday I finally defeated Great Mother Silk, finally I can visit these threads again.
Yes, I already know I'm nowhere near the end, now I must trigger silk and soul.
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>>720436174
Merrye Troupe, they're like Grimm Troupe but different
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>>720436195
A Richter mode with Lace could be fun.
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>>720435769
I remember there being one but I don't remember where on the map
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>>720436235
Act 3 has a lot more plot/lore revelations than act 1/2 does 2bh. Browse cautiously cause I ruined a few things for myself making the same assumption
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>>720436234
Oh damn same

When I saw the heat mechanic in the Slab it convinced me to go further
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>>720436174
The lesbian cutscene everyone kept talking about
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>get to act 3
>it's another "get 3 mcguffins" episode
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>>720422507
You have to talk to the NPC in Songcleave. It's not on the board.
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>>720436241
The best part of Act 3 for me was going to find the fleas in the caves to make sure they were okay and then they talk about a final trial and I think I'm going to have to murder a bunch of the fuckers and then it's just a slightly morbid festival
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>>720436330
It was funny how they did two collect 3 things back to back

At least Act 3 led you tl fun shit and maybe even areas you didnt find before
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>mfw finished the sister of the void ending (true ending)
this ending is the perfect follow up of godhome ending (also true perfect ending)
After godhome, lil ghost disappeared, the infection stopped and hornet found nothing but his cracked mask. She was probably thinking he is dead. Her regret and guilt latched on Lace, lace reminded her of lil ghost. And in sister of the void ending we finally have closure. Hornet now knows lil ghost is alive and a GOD now. Hornet and Lace got their happy ending.
Masterful story telling, team cherry is so fucking good at it.
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>>720429697
Now that everything does 2 damage I guess radiance went down kek
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>>720436005
>>720435531
For me it is Cogwork Core.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq8wGcWeXwg
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The true ending for hollow knight is embrace the void, right?
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>>720431813
>Mount Fay
>Cogwork Core
>Choral Chambers
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>>720436453
yeah
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>>720434850
Aren't Team Cherry working on a different game series now?
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>>720436114
The music really fits it so well, snowy mountain themes in general are very comfy but it also really expresses the sense of loneliness Mount Fay has, there's really no NPCs to the place and it's only connected to the rest of Pharloom by The Slab, plus it being a pure platforming gauntlet with really only those laser robots serving as proper enemies.

>>720436156
>>720436234
I think part of it is that you will have probably gotten the Magma Bell by that point which reduces fire damage, and although I don't know if it was possible to get it as well but you could also get the charm that repels Muckmaggots so there is this precedent for charms to counter the elements.
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>>720436502
They've registered a trademark for some Fox game
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>>720436426
To be fair it might just be that the Knight can take a hit better than Hornet
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Is this game transgender coded?
>female protagonist
>lesbian canonical pairing with Lace
>all powerful characters are female
>many bosses are thick muscle mommies
>males like the Pinmaster are rescued like damsels and are told to stay in the kitchen (his house)
>protagonist of HK is confirmed to be BLACKED in the void
>game mechanic catering to speedrunning sisters
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>>720435383
Jesus you can actually dash straight down ? Also the Reaper crest seems OP.
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>>720436397
>>720436453
>true ending is completely detached from the main plot
i hate it
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>>720436626
Have you even played the game? It's all about lace
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>>720435502
She looks like pussy lips
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>>720436618
>Also the Reaper crest seems OP.
Don't fall for it, it's a noob trap.
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>>720436649
I think he's talking about HK's ending
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>720436614
>lesbian canonical pairing with Lace
>many bosses are thick muscle mommies
>protagonist of HK is confirmed to be BLACKED in the void
>game mechanic catering to speedrunning sisters
You literally making shit up with these ones
Stop seething so much because of this game retard bro. It is not even funny anymore
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>>720436715
This game felt like it lent more into that sort of thing like fetishy stuff. Wonder why. Is that what Team Cherry thought the audience wanted or is it something they wanted?

They're making some new Fox furry game so maybe they're furries. I don't remember normal HK having "sexy" bugs or whatever
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>>720436706
It's obviously meant to fit with either "Dream No More" or "Embrace the Void", both work
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>>720432919
really fucking embarrassing for you.
>>720434773
>>720435187
called wisp thicket bud
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>>720436771
Bafanada.
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>>720436820
Oh yeah she was kind of a milf true
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>>720436771
The main motivations for most artists/character designers are horniness. It is a sad truth. You ask why people make spend 7 years making a bug game, it's because a good deal of the designers want to fuck bugs. A very unique case of gender dysphoria, needs to be studied.
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>>720436867
>wanting to fuck non-humans is gender dysphoria
do you even think before you shitpost or do you just let a raw shit slurry spew from your mouth?
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>>720435383
What the fuck is R3
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>>720436902
Tomato tomato
Mental illness mental illness
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>>720436931
yes anon, you are mentally ill. please touch grass.
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Also forgot to mention the homosexual ballet dancing mantis clan. Game's got it all, L, G, B to the T.
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>>720436960
>the homosexual ballet dancing mantis clan
that is your one correct point. good job.
sadly in the modern age, you need to sacrifice at least one character to the horde so that you dont have to listen to their annoying babbling.
the rest of it, you're just shitposting.
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>>720436902
Its just a mad troll
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>>720436771
I feel like they managed to approach things in a way that wasn't too obvious or "cringe", but TC knows they have a healthy bugfucker audience.
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>>720437118
Yeah it wasn't something that was cringe to me and it didn't hinder my enjoyment at all. Just didn't think Team Cherry cared about stuff like that
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>>720434912
That's the taunt retard. It's specifically to move enemies like that out of position.
Holy hell you don't actually play the game do you?
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>>720437118
>not too obvious
>constantly waves of big muscular female enemies/NPCs
>lesbian moss mothers fight
>gay mantis clan
>plot is about an infertile "mother" making baby through magic which you have to spend 3 acts validating as a real child
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>>720437214
Not that anon but does the game ever tell you about taunt? I only found out about it from a video
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So is there any point to the backflip?
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>>720437337
It's a hidden mechanic no. There's a few other weird things it can do too. I don't think everything has been found yet.
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>>720437438
looks sick
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I thought you had to beat the act 2 boss once and then do everything? Finishing the boss basically does nothing, you can reload to the last bench you sat at.
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>>720437337
>>720437493
It's in the options menu under keybinds, not really hidden.
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fucking love the fight
feel tough but extremely fair
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I fucking love that they used the two trailer tracks for the escape sequences.

I actually basedfaced.
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>>720437861
Problem with escape sequences for me is both Ori games already did them to death so it felt like I was playing a less interesting version of something I've already seen enough of.
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>>720437949
I mean, escape sequences are very common in platformers, so it didn't feel that special in Ori either.
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>>720435887
>>720436019
It's 50 rosaries for a bundle of 80 shards.
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>Lace is Void outside, Silk inside
>Hornet is Silk outside, Void inside
>Lost Kin parallels
Kino...
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>>720437829
I haven't gotten to Seth yet but I'm slightly concerned that you've got the frozen coccoon visible
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>>720427127
Nosk takes the form of a loved one's memories.
During the Pantheon of Hallownest, it takes the form of Hornet.
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>>720428357
>I don't want to pump any crest slot enhancers into wanderer if I'm going to come across a better one
The game gives you a shitload of memory lockets. Don't be afraid to upgrade your stuff.
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>>720431464
Just don't get hit lmao
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>>720438340
Do we know the origin of Nosk, was it just some creature that lives in Deepnest or is it an experiment like the Collector?
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>>720438503
If I had to guess it's mutated from the Radiance's infection, which would explain why it can peer into memories to assume a form, it's hijacking her powers.
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>>720431464
Cool numbers, dork.
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Brehs you need to play Silksong with a great audio setup

It's actually kino how fucking good the OST and sound design in general is
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>>720437337
Not him, I found it by looking in menu the various actions.
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>>720434569
Quirrel and Cloth both die.
Technically Grimm dies.
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I nuked ant mommy with the architect crest after i realised you don't lose any ammo after a dream battle and now i regret not winning the fight properly
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>>720438870
I have these, more than 10yo, I like them lots
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Guys there was another thread gooning about Lace and it made me remember how some bagworms stay in their more larval stage even after adulthood, does anyone know the scientific name for this?
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27869366/#:~:text=Several%20species%20of%20bagworm%20moths,sexual%20dimorphism%3A%20wingless%20female%20adults.
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>>720439442
it has one of the strongest silks out there, not only spiders work with silk, moths do it too
I thought it was interesting
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>>720439087
you cheated yourself from the hardest needle-only fight in the game.



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