Oh no that's a whole 4 minutes of farming

>>720470938
Beat the game without Faydown Cloak. AMA.

So I can go through Bilewater -> mist instead of blasted lands?
But impossible to get the bilewater map until getting some upgrade in act 2?

>>720471035
You did NOT beat the game

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>>720470938
Cheer up.

I've barely stuck my toe into Bilewater and I'm about to do my first real journey into it, is it better to enter from Sinners or from Whispering Vaults? From what I've read I'm gonna be fucked on benches, so I'm more worried about getting my hands on a map ASAP.

>>720471035
You literally didn't beat it

i fucking hate contact damage holy shit

How the hell do I beat the mist area? I always seem to be going in circles. I left it for later and I'm on act 2 now, idk if that matters

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I 100%ed the game without knowing that its possible to dash downwards
all these areas, 50 hours, so much running back and forth, and not a single accidental down dash. how the fuck

>so many mid bosses
>fuckton of simple pogo platforming x 99
>no boss rush mode
I mean it was fun for a few days but it really has no replay value

>>720471041
both correct

>>720471097
>>720471158
I saw the credits roll, got 33h on the timer, got the cheevo that only 10% of the players got. I'm pretty sure I beat the game.

I have delivered the courier's rasher

Fuck bilewater fuck bilewater fuck bilewater

Bros...do you farm shards? I have non.

>>720471175
play the needolin near the butterflies and follow them

>>720470375
Nigger I have 2 nail upgrades, 8 masks in total, I'm spamming venom tools, I save them ALL for the boss and I get full health to the boss. This is just bullshit. This is designed to waste me hours of my life instead of just half an hour.

I fucking hate those leftist trannies at team cherry, no one designs good games anymore, it's all about who can design the most difficult game with most bullshit.

I would be fine if I had a bench outside the boss or the boss didn't make DOUBLE DAMAGE WHILE FLYING AWAY AND SPAMMING SHIT ON SCREEN

You can't even pogo chain or hit it because he doesn't flush and he hits you with his hitbox for 2 damage. This is just bullshit and retarded, they only thing I hated from follow knight was the dlc handicaps because I was sure they were for complete autosta.

Guess what? They decided to make dark souls II. Fuck them, fuck them hard in the ass.

WHY DO NONE OF YOU RETARDS USE SILKEATERS

>>720471041
Yes to both. You need double jump to get to Shakra for Bilewater.

>>720471175
use needolin on the butterflies
alternatively get lucky

it's easy to farm beads in the late game

>>720469914
>thanks but i completed it the try after i made that post
It is UNREAL how often this works
I don't complain about balance often on /v/ or /vg/ but when I do it's with the knowledge that I will successfully beat the thing I've been stuck on immediately after venting

it
just
werks

>>720471041
It's Sinners > Mist and then into the Citadel, the Mist exists in the same general area as Bilewater but it isn't really Bilewater, unless there is a way into the Mist via Bilewater in which case I didn't access the Mist that way.

>>720471228
>10%
>beating the game
Oh sweet summer child

FINALLY beat Lost Lace. Holy shit, that was aggravating.

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Found an invisible platform in Greymoor. Oh also fuck this parasite and fuck that plant bitch. And FUCK Bilewater.

>>720471101
Awoooo

>>720471228
>main menu
>extras
>credits
>"GUYS I BEAT THE LE GAME"

>>720471179
>dash downwards
WHAT

>>720471252
Farm beads and buy shards.

Be honest with me, /v/.

Was Bilewater actually a good idea? It's memorable sure but is it really worth inflicting that much pain on your player?

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I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR FOUR FUCKING HOURS

I FUCKING HATE THIS FUCKING STUPID GODDAMN FUCKING CUNT

HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DODGE HER JUMPING ATTACK WHEN THE ONLY SAFE SPACE AVAILABLE HAS VOID TENDRILS SPROUTING OUT OF THE FUCKING FLOOR

JUMP? GET IT AND DIE! DODGE BACK? GET HIT BY THE TENDRILS AND DIE! JUMP AND DASH TO AVOID THE TENDRILS AND THE ATTACK? OOPS YOU JUST FUCKING GOT HIT BY A PROJECTILE THAT YOU COULDN'T SEE BECAUSE

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU BEAT THIS STUPID CUNT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>720471008
whats the best place to farm rosaries?

>>720471369
you can literally just dash downwards as if you had dashmaster, by default

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>break secret wall
>find a bunch of those shard deposits
>break them
>+10 shards(half of them lost to spikes)
What's the point?
Even enemies drop more.

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Ive played for 2 hours, got the swift step, it feels like cheating. the music is amazing. People complaining about the down attack angle are retarded or probably have a bad button layout, literally zero issues with it. too bad I cant beat the game anymore since I started a week too late

>>720471381
sense of pride and accomplishment

>>720471285
You can access the mist right next to the bilewater station. Nice and quick bench to go in there.

>>720471381
I'm a cock and ball torture enthusiast so it was a 10/10 experience for me

>>720471381
I think TC really wanted that total fuck you area
Regardless if it makes people drop the game or nor

you ever die 20 times to a boss and after each attempt you think
>yeah i got this next try easy
thats the sign of a good boss

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>>720470938
I finsished all town quests except for that one that asks for 300 shards in Bone Bottom (i ain't giving my shards to these fucks). The flea caravan is already in Putrid Ducts but idk how many fleas i found.
What are the pre-requisites to startint Act III again?

>>720471381
It wasn't that hard for me

>>720471395
>HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO DODGE HER JUMPING ATTACK WHEN THE ONLY SAFE SPACE AVAILABLE HAS VOID TENDRILS SPROUTING OUT OF THE FUCKING FLOOR
double jump and glide
>PROJECTILE THAT YOU COULDN'T SEE
All projectiles are aimed at where you are going, if you move erratically they all miss

Plasmium is our friend.
We should all drink more plasmium.

>>720471508
find every flea
talk to the nigger at songclave until he gives you a quest

Late act 2 and I'm starting to feel a little too strong. Lace and grandmother silk were kino but only took a few tries to beat. Hell I just got volt filament and now my counter is even more busted. I hope act 3 is harder

>>720471406
Would also be curious to know this. I've been using the hallway with the giant violin fuckers. Each run is like 165 rosaries and it probably takes less than a minute.

This is a serious suggestion.

Do we think Sherma should actually die if you don't do his Whiteward quest fast enough?

Would that have been too evil and meanspirited?

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I'll NEVER replay this game

broodmother is one of the bosses of all time for sure

>>720471395
I find her way easier than ant queen and the trapper guy

>>720471584
>double jump and glide

I HAVE DONE THIS AND EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME I GET FUCKING HIT BY HER JUMPING SPINNING AIR SLASH SHIT

>>720471584
IMPOSSIBLE TO DO WHILE ALSO DODGING THE FLOOR TENDRILS

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>ooh git gud git gud ooooh me so good I can beat kaizo games I play 24/7 videogames and I masturbate ooooh
I hate this, I hate how now every fucking game is an ego game and devs put bullshit after bullshit instead of making a good designed game.

No, the bilgewater boss is bullshit, it's just bullshit. And I'm sure that if I beat it I will get 50 rosaries and a thank you cookie. Or some bullshit. This is not fun this is just a chore.

Why don't they make steel mode the default mode now they are at it? I hate those leftist trannies at team cherry.

As someone who has genuine passion about game design this is bullshit and seeing people defending this shit game design decision infuriate me.

The worst of al is that I can cheese the boss staying at the lower right of the room? And I bet most people did this. Half the players haven't even killed widow, how many players have really beaten this fucking fly?

This is so fucking retarded, I hate this. Why did I buy this game, I should have pirated it, fuck them. In tired of this Elden ring bullshit where we don't design good games anymore but we make bullshit to tell the player to fuck off. The only people praising this are transexuals that constantly play videogames.

>>720471621
do you use a charm to drop more rosaries?

>>720471621
Thats the best place and you can optimize your kills too with the parry

>>720471607
who's gonna tell him?

>>720471607
>a few tries
Will get worse then

does anyone have a list of all optional bosses that are unlocked in act 3?
backtracking doesn't seem that fun

>>720471381
Groal is a shitty boss. The map as a whole is whatever.

>>720471676
You're joking, right? Those fuckers are goddamn pushovers.

>>720471621
That's it as far as I'm aware, 3 enemies, 32 rosaries each, 55 with the thieves charm, about a minute travel time between the first shrine and cogworks benches

>Reaper is slow it's slow IT'S TOO SLOWWWWWWWWWWW
>Beast and Wanderer are the only crests with a meaningful speed difference to the rest and Beast is like less than 20% on base attack
why are wanderlets the most insecure people in these threads

when the fuck do the flea guys move on from the grand gate? and how do i get further in cogwork core?

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>>720471418
>stay between the shard deposits and the spikes
>as i break them, they all bounce around, faze through Hornet and fall onto the spikes
Why the fuck didn't they just make the shards he picked as they touch you. What is this bullshit???

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>>720471508
>i ain't giving my shards to these fucks
But anon, don't you want a cute Hornet statue?

>>720471381
Its just bullshit. This is just dark souls II syndrome all over again. Only retards like it.
Have more respect for your own time, there is nothing to prove here.

A challenging game let's you engage with its mechanics honestly. This game just cripples your nail, your heals, your movement and throws spam bullshit at you.

>>720471714
>And I'm sure that if I beat it I will get 50 rosaries and a thank you cookie.
your reward is actually just a free bench and a fetchquest

>>720471697
>I HAVE DONE THIS AND EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME I GET FUCKING HIT BY HER JUMPING SPINNING AIR SLASH SHIT
Positioning issue, plus you can clawline away to lose 0 elevation

>IMPOSSIBLE TO DO WHILE ALSO DODGING THE FLOOR TENDRILS
perfectly possible, you only need a tiny spot of safe ground to easily dodge every single projectile

>>720471381
It's not THAT much pain. It's a bit of a frustrating area but every game has them.

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>>720471406
Running back and forth killing the 5 grand reeds.

>>720471793
Maybe cause I'm a hit and run type and lace's arena just happen to be a giant room with so many places to run away from.

Also has a trick where I use the super jump to get to the ceiling and heal. Literally can't be attacked from there

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>>720471850
Holds A button

>>720471881
Are you kidding me

Do you get anything for doing the mask maker delivery other than rosaries? I died three times now to random bullshit along the way and I'm tired of it.

Is the godmaster cutscene with hornet and the hollow knight facing each other referenced in the game?

>maining crests
Actual mental retardation, you're supposed to change them up to face different challenges

>>720471872
i don't really know what to tell you man, i had fun with it. you can just say you don't like it instead of having to attempt to justify in your head why you're better than the people who did

>>720471253
>>720471275
Oh damn, I haven't used that for anything other than story stuff lmao
Thanks a lot

>>720471594
>find every flea
love this game but this is just terrible game design

>>720471914
No it doesn't you are a retard

>>720471981
>fucking up your muscle memory
hmmm nyo

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>>720471381
How the FUCK do I even get the map for this area?

>>720472037
you don't need all fleas, that guy is a retard

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>getting surgery on my wrist to fix issues with inflammation around thumb tendon
>won't be able to play silksong for a week
sadge
as far as I can tell I'm like 80% through act 2 at least; no more wishes available, all 3 melodies, and most of the sub weapons

see you fine anons in a week or so, unless I figure out how to play without using my right thumb lmao

>>720471953
CEASE THIS

>>720471981
Can't think of any situation Wanderer can't handle, I'll have to force myself not to use it next time

>>720472037
find the big flea and he will literally mark your map for every flea you dont have
it doesnt feel like a tedious collectathon at all

>>720472007
There is also people that enjoy cutting their own balls off. I'm tired of this relativistic bullshit. Good or bad isn't relative. No, you liking it is not valuable. No, it's not a goodly designed zone, it's bullshit and you are mentally ill.

>>720471872
>filtered by kino souls 2 and chadwater
you just know this guy underutilizes his tools and options in every game

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>>720471881
no lol

I FUCKING HATE BROODMOTHER I FUCKING HATE BOSSES WITH ADDS

>>720472060
There's a Shakra disk where you have to double jump

>>720472060
follow shakras circlets on the ground when you see one

>>720471607
>couldn't beat grandmother silk first try
oh boy...

>>720472112
You need almost every flea, I think I had only one left showing on the map before they moved

>>720471381
I changed my crest to reaper and suddenly I can climb it in minutes with only 1 or 2 fumbles

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>>720472037
>collecting things in a metroidvania is bad game design

>>720472060
it's from shakra, keep looking for her

AAAAHHHHHH I GOT CURSED

I GOT TENTACLED AND NOW I CANT HEAL OR USE TOOLS
WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON

>whisp thicket
holy fuck this game just KEEPS ON GOING
game of the year game of the decade game of the century

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You know, I remember thinking during my first playthrough of Hollow Knight, "damn, this boss fight is fun, but it'd be even better if I needed to do a platforming segment and then fight 2-3 waves of normal enemies first".

>>720472175
Even if you use tools and venom with that fly it still a health sponge, and touching it deals 2 damage. You can't pogo it because you get trapped on the ceiling, and you can't heal at all. Have more self love and respect for your time anon.

>>720472112
>you don't need all fleas, that guy is a retard
if thats not the case then you need almost every single one
im not a wikifag like you though, faggot

>freed the green guy in sinner's road
It's over isn't it

>>720471981
I've used starter one exclusively into act 3 and I'll finish the game with it

What is a more fitting way to end act 1. Judge or Phantom?

>>720472205
>>720472215
I don't have double jump. I assumed there was a way to reach her from above.

>>720472304
stfu retard, you're a retard

>>720472304
If you played the game """"""normally"""""", you should have no problem with that tbqh

>>720472142
that sucks, but sounds necessary if you plan on ever playing games again. Maybe take a break and play some point n clicks/turn based during recovery.

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>>720472174
>it's bullshit
yeah, that's why i liked it. but if it makes you feel better i guess, i'm mentally ill and you're the objectively superior human being for hating it. that help you any?

>>720472290
The only thing I didn't like about hollow knight was the nail shit on the dlc.

I thought "why would anyone want this? Playing with a non upgraded nails doesn't really change anything, it just adds stupid padding, and there is no reward either"

Hey guess what? They decided to build a game around that.

>>720471787
>one to the right of greymoor
>2 in sands of Karak with superjump
>wormways has 1 miniboss and a new quest
>blasted steps has one, but it might take some time/need a quest to spawn
>not a boss but there is stuff above the cradle
>there is a quest for an ant boss fight
That's about it I think.

>>720472368
Pretty sure Judge is the intended way and Phantom is a backtracky alt way

I just stumbled into Bilewater and I would like to leave.

>>720471395
Best boss in the entire game, unironically.

>>720471179
I learned that you can run at 30 hours

Reminder they spent SEVEN FUCKING YEARS on this game and not once did they think of getting rid of Bilewater.

>>720471263
Lol I merced him second try with 1 nail upgrade and 6 masks wtf where do you get all that shit

My boomerangs did most of the work.

I missed out on the wardenfly kidnap sequence because I'm too good and don't get hit like a scrub. Is there any benefit to it?

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B boss for sure

PLEASE tell me there's a FUCKING checkpoint after Lost Lace

I am so fucking tired of fighting this cunt. I stopped having fun like three hours ago. I just want to see the FUCKING ending.

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>Mom brings over her friends to MY fucking home
>while I’m trying to play MY fucking vidya
and worst of all she expects me to come down and FUCKING GREET THEM!?!?

DOES SHE NOT FUCKING KNOW THAT I’M TRYING TO ENJOY PEAKSONG BEFORE I CLOCK IN AT MCWAGIES!?!?

YOU RUINED MY ENTIRE FUCKING DAY MOM!!!!! I FUCKING HATE YOUR FRIENDS SHOWING UP UNANNOUNCED GIVE ME A 12 HOUR NOTICE BEFORE YOU WALK INTO MYYYYYYYYY FUCKING ABODE YOU WHORES!!! AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

>fast travel was a cool old bug in Hollow Knight
>le epic pupperino in Silksong
>collectible bugs were gross little caterpillars
>they are now le cute awooo~ fleas
reddit sequel
>mila was a stern but cool miner
>sherma is a faggy little cute cuy
reddit game

>>720472413
Yeah it's not too bad, just a minor case of de quervain's, but it's more of a "fix it now before it gets worse" type of thing.

So the burning bugs are part of Grimm's tribe right?

>>720472368
Judge is the way cooler way.
Phantom is the easier and with most rewards path.

>>720471101
Awoooo

>>720472568
>Khann at F tier
Why

>you can just cheese the Bilewater boss by staying in the ass water and pelting it with tools
oh no no no

>>720472263
Now go fight the final boss

>>720471881
>>720471964
Its true, and the fetch quest is annoying, but the quest rewards one of the best tools in the game, Long claw. Then again... you could get to that NPC through memorium so technically the reward for Bilewater boss is a bench.

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you fucking NOOBS are hyping up lost lace so much and it's gonna be the easiest shit ever istg

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>>720472142
>surgery
>mfw finding and playing the surgeon psalm cylinder

>>720472607
speak English, please

I got raped in Bilewater so I went to Blasted Land and killed the judge boss. Pretty tough but fun. Got to the Citadel. I think I'm getting burned out.

>>720472650
>everyone hates maggotwater
>the best strategy to beat the bos is to stay in the maggotwater

KINOOOO

why is shakra not singing out loud anymore fucking cunt

>>720472712
I swear the consensus was that she was too easy a few days ago

>>720472417
I am superior to you. Objectively. Liking good designed games instead of shitty ones is good. Liking unfair bullshit that makes you waste time is completely stupid.

The reality is that you make beating difficult games your entire personality and you do nothing other than playing games so you feel "accomplished" by beating bullshit after 3 hours. This is insanity. Team cherry decided to listen to faggots like you and now the rest we have to suffer and now I have to see how a good game like hollow knight gets corrupted and having it's corpse raped by whatever this silksong shit is. I've played the game, I've beaten 80% of the content and this is just shit. The experience I wanted and I got from hollow knight it's not here.

I despise you trannies like you wouldn't believe. Genuine, visceral hate for you and your corruption of everything, even my vidya.

>>720470938
Always be necklacing. The 140 cost for 120 necklace at Bellhart is a great deal.
>>720471406
Early game, Far Fields Ant Hunting, Act 2, the hallway above Songclave with the giant guards.

>>720471282
In that case, these gauntlets in the act 3 Karak area are bullshit if I have to do them every time before the boss I'm going to hurt someone

>>720471381
No. The area itself being an endurance test is one thing, putting that test as the runback to a boss is just bad game design, and ruins both the area and the boss. They clearly wanted to recreate Deepnest and fucked it badly.

>>720472769
>I think I'm getting burned out.
You just started though

>>720472578
I CAN’T EVEN GO DOWNSTAIRS TO PAUSE THE FUCKING GAME I FUCKING HATE MY LIFE I FUCKING HATE ALL OF YOU FUCK YOU ALL!! FUCK YOU AAAAAALLLLL!!!!!

>>720472646
>summons spike
>jump
>repeat
Mechanically worse Sister Splinter, considering it is a fucking act 3 and H E A R T boss

>>720472554
>Spamming tools
You didn't beat the game. And if that makes you beat the game, what's stopping me from just cheesing the boss with other starts anyways? This is just a bad boss.

>>720472607
nigga the grubs were cute as fuck
they made plushies

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I can hear an item glowing to the right when going up this shaft. How do I get it...

>>720472827
holy melty

>>720471282
I've done that many times over the years myself

>>720472827
AYO THIS NIGGA MALDING HARD

>update available
What did they update?

>>720472658
Oh woah I will get useless shit so I can get playing this shit designed game. I will not be able to use it anyways because I will have no shards or a status effect that doesn't let me use tools or some bullshit along the road

I'm putting some mods and getting the steam achievements anyways, fuck this shit designed game. Full negative reviews.

>>720470938
Did they make the game casual in the new update?

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>>720472827
you done with the psychoanalysis? like i said, i just find hard games fun, there's nothing deep about it. please get some help

Someone spoonfeed me on how to get to the act 3 area between Shellwood, Blaster Steps, and Grand Gate. I'm sick of banging my nail against walls.

I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS I HATE THE PENULTIMATE BOSS

>>720473115
Grand Gate elevator

>>720471940
ive been using this, whats the best build for it tho?
im going with speed charm, more ros charm, fire tool, and apparently the snitch one doesnt work on pre-patch so i dont feel like buying it
what others make the farm faster?

>>720472896
He was nice change of pace for me. Just simple boss that just increased his speed with nothing bullshitty

>>720473118
uh, who?
There is no penultimate boss

>>720472880
I'm just not very good. I probably need an easier game.

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Why is he so THICC?

>>720473213
Use the increased damage done/taken charm, you should be killing them before they can even do anything although it probably depends on Crest

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>>720471381
I think it was a good idea and the real is impeacably designed. But there are two key problems that make this are not enjoyable to play and not satisfatory to complete:
>1) it lacks good enemies and bosses: there is nothing in there particularlly interesting to fight. It needed some warrior-like enemies like in Hunter's March and Citadel so you can actually enjoy some good fights as you progress. The boss is also not good, which needs no further comment.
>2) No meaningful reward: the slingshot amulet is good but also a secret, but at the end of the level all you find is a story item that doesn't help you in the slightest. You also get barelly any rosaries.

Now compare this to the dedicated suffering areas of Hollow Knight:
>Waterways: the walking flukes are fun to fight, and the Dung Defender is a good boss. As a reward you get Defender's Crest and the Flukenest charm.
>Deepnest: there are various fun enemies to engage and Nosk is a ok boss. As reward you get the Tram pass, Weaversong, Sharpshadow (later) and a Pale Ore.

You used features built into the game, you didn't beat the game.

>>720472915
>what's stopping me from just cheesing the boss with other starts anyways?
Being too fuckstupid to work em out lol

>>720473115
If you are talking about the area where you have to go to get heart of the woods, go to grand gate all the way to the right and silk soar to the hidden entrance.

>>720473047
my cock

>>720473292
I play dogshit idle games in between. Pretty good to have something that don't require much thinking to go through

>>720473074
There is something deep about it, I've seen your tardiness bleed into each of the hobbies I like and I've seen devs and creator change their focus to cater to cattle like you. Its the same root problem that has rotten politics, academia, movies, music, film, everything, the inclusion of idiots like you that have no standards of good an evil. I have to see each of my favourites sagas being turned into retarded slop of many shit flavours because you have to dig your retarded claws everywhere.

No I don't care about difficulty, I want a good designed game, and no one cares about goodly designed games because they world is now filled with useless trannies. And I can't just put one mod that removes all the bullshit from the game. I can maybe remove double damage, teleport, but I can't remove ALL the bullshit and I'm not programming over a shitty game.

I genuinely like and care about game design, I care about vidya and I have to see my hobby getting destroyed by years and years just because you have no standards. Fuck you and kill yourself.

>>720473350
(...) and the area is impeccably designed*(...)

>>720473490
Lately I've been playing this, Prince of Persia, DK. I was thinking about getting Siralim Ultimate.

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>beat Trobbio
>he didn't drop pet charm
Damn. I'm curios when do you get pet charm? Act 2 zone or Act 1?
Also is Sctuttlebrace useless? I don't understand how to make it work. I don't see any advantages over wall climb or dash.

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Oh shit there's a baby crying, this is the baby that curses or something right, should I pick it up?

were all spikes nerfed to 1 damage? I am at memorium and can't remember if they did 2 before

>>720473275
So she's the final boss?

Thank FUCKING god. I swear if I had to fight another boss after this FUCKING cunt I was gonna drop the fucking game.

>>720473638
Pretty sure only the worms did 2 damage because they also bit you

>>720473638
All environmental damage except for lava.

>>720473638
Yes all environment damage except the lava was nerfed to 1

>>720471179
I'm bad enough to have done it accidentaly before the end of act one. Very surprising.

>>720473638
Go to the clocks zone and tell me how much damage do you get from the clock bullshit.

>>720473629
Surely the cogflies will be in cogworks
Did you talk to architect yet

>>720473635
You can just come back at act 3 if you don't wanna risk it

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I wish 4chan would go down forever
I can't help not get spoiled about everything here while I'm away from home and can't play

ok seriously does the nail upgrade actually do anything? I feel like I'm still doing the same exact damage as before, like all enemies still need the same amount of hits as before I got the upgrade

>>720471406
>act 2
grand bellway
equip thief charm, extra damage, wanderer, swift shoes. run out and kill the 2 choirboys
14k rosaries p/h
>act 3
bottom left of high halls
run right and kill the 3 with one silkspear - same charms as above but use slyphsong to get max thread back at the bench
15k p/h

>>720473407
>>720473197
Thanks anons.

>>720473213
If you got the slots, mandatory item is definitely Thief's Mark(makes them drop more rose), you will definitely want magnetite brooch so you can keep moving and not have to stop to pick up beads. Good optional ideas if you got the free slots are Silkspeed anklets to speed it up, magnetized dice for potential critical hits and blocked attacks. Finally, use the silk skill Cross Stitch to parry and counter them.

I would basically sprint right at them and beat them senseless with wanderer crest, then when they are finally about to stab me or use their silk ability, I parry it with Cross stitch which usually finishes them or one more attack will.

>>720473047
https://www.teamcherry.com.au/blog/silksong-patch-1

Can you just pogo Last Judge to death in the second phase?

What inforiates me is that the bilewater heal shit could be a challenging mechanic in something like hollow knight, where you have more heals with less soul. Here you have to waste 10 BARS OF SILK to get rid of a state that you can get the next second anyways.

>>720473635
picking it up doesnt curse you right away. However, it does cry every fucking time you open the menu so I'd recommend waiting. However, there's also an ending locked behind doing its associated quest and you miss it permanently if you progress into act 3. However, that ending is just a cutscene so only matters if you want achievements.

>>720472553
Bilewater is perfect as is. Lorewise it's filled with bugs who got literally shit on by the Citadel, and you find their texts where they say how much they fucking hate everyone. Bilewater was designed to be bad intentionally to make you feel some small amount of the anger its inhabitants harbor towards the rest of Pharloom.

>t. some idiot playtester probably

>>720473852
oh and summon 4 cogflies on both builds
when you swap rooms their attacks reset so they persist forever and fuckin nuke the mobs

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I did it bros! I didn't think I would be able to beat this game after almost getting filtered on act 3 in that cancer coral gauntlet
The final boss isn't as hard as one anon sold to me here, I would even say it's probably an easy fight with wanderer crest.

>>720473841
it's one of those games where the upgrade is like 12->14 damage and it'll only make a difference on one specific enemy with 40hp or bosses

>>720473635
Picking it up is harmless. Only accepting the quest will curse you.

>>720473852
How about shards?
Or do I just buy shard bundles instead

>>720473335
Maggots are rich in protein

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>>720473967
They have only two (zwei) playtesters according to the credits, they ruined the game

>>720474036
they dont drop many shards but you can use the charm that gives extra
I think both routes give around 10 per run but you can just buy them with rosaries anyway

>>720472553
The fact that they released a patch proves that the retards saying the game was perfectly designed are wrong.

This is what happens when you don't playtest your game.

>>720473923
Thanks anon

>>720474143
Didn't they list like 4 or 5?

I just don't feel like playing it any more. Maybe in a month or so I'll pick it back up. I'm pretty close to the end of the game but I just go crosseyed playing it and smacking the same enemies ten times until they die. They should just keep the bosses as they are (not even nerf Moorwing and Splinter, they weren't even hard) and make common enemies less spongy.

>Double jump bypass input removed
Were people really jumping while holding down enough for this to be a problem? I 100%ed the game and didn't even know it was a thing until the patch notes came out

>>720471872
Dark Souls 2 was great. Bilewater was shit.

>>720473841
No.

>>720473828
I just browsed other boards and didn't touch /v/ until I was done

>>720473781
Yeah. Is it one of her charms? I thought pet will be some sort on fly from HK and bug that hides in the bell in Greymoor and asks you to bring "specimen" will upgrade it.

When are they going to allow us to configure a separate button for tool use?

>>720474296
This is the first game I'm considering using a mod to fix the devs bad decisions. But I don't want to fall into this because I should be fixing devs bullshit. They had 7 years.

>Mom’s roastie friends have decided to get comfortable and aren’t leaving anytime soon
I fucking hate my life. All I wanted to do was play some fucking silksong

I never imagined playing with flea would be harder than final boss

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Just breezed through Hunter's March after paying Sinner's Road a visit, Savage Beastfly took me three tries. I am aware I have to fight it again later on, but were people seriously crying about this guy here? Also, holy shit, the Beast crest pogo DOES suck. You weren't wrong about that.

>>720473732
>>720473749
>>720473761
incredible, normies ruin yet another game. I'm 90% of the way done and now it just feels tainted

>>720473967
>>720474143
Its so fucking dumb, if there was just a bench closer to the boss, it would be perfect. A challenging endurance test area followed by a so-so but fun enough boss. Instead the area gets ruined because I can't appreciate the design after running through it 20 times the boss is ruined because I never got to enjoy the fight due to already being annoyed every time I got to it. I swear to god they just played Elden Ring too much while designing the game and got difficulty brained.

Why aren't there more enemies with guns or cannons?

>>720474316
Dark souls 2 at least had a slow combat and the healings, this is just bullshit

>>720472945
top left corner of the square

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>>720474450
>the Beast crest pogo DOES suck
You just need to get used to it but it does suck for vertical pogo'ing in confined spaces

wheres the high halls map

>>720474419
>Game tells you to use a controller
>They don't design tools around the dpad
>You have to use weird combinations of inputs
Why

>>720474470
I got hit by one of those large square-shaped bugs in Citadel and it did just 1 damage :(
God knows how much they nerfed

>>720474221
Silksong legit only had 5 playtesters.
The devs themselves and 2 other equally good friends.
Actually hilarious lmao.
I think they are autists that genuinely thought vasuals would have no problems with the difficultt.

I think this new patch has largely fixed some of the major painpoints early on. The only question now is if they touch High Halls, the Judge runback, and Bilewater maybe nerf the gauntlet a bit.
But overall that's the only real balancing issue I think that game might have.

>>720474470
Nah, fuck you, it was bullshit.

>>720472568
who is the dude with the sword in D tier? Also how could you not like the forge brothers?

>>720471381
I liked it

>playing on current patch
none of you can beat the game, thoughbeit

>>720474689
Its not about diminishing casuals. You can make a challenging game without bullshit. You can also make a beatable game with a difficulty mastery spike. those games already exist. This is just bullshit because they haven't thought about playtesting in 7 years.

Is there an end of the delivery missions? I I have done Courier's rasher, Queen's egg, and have done bone bottom like 5 times, Pilgrim's rest 4 times, and songclave 3 times, I ain't delivering to fleatopia unless I absolutely have to, because fuck that? Is there an end or is it just a way to farm rosaries? I don't understand.

>>720474689
The Last Judge runback is completely fine, plus didn't they already get rid of the double damage floor hazard in Blasted Steps?

uppercut is the sole reason I am losing to Lost Lace
considering uninstalling this 8.5/10 bullshit game

So what is act 3? I just beat Great Mother Silk and the game is over, and I'm pretty sure I was still in act 2. Is act 3 exclusive to the "true" ending or something?

>>720474793
>Forced to use up the double jump before getting to hover
if anything I beat the game more than you

>>720471272
I used one to buff my health back to full halfway up Mt Fay

>>720471285
Mist can be reached directly via a secret exit from Sinners or a more obvious exit from Bilewater.

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>>720474450
It's good material for funposting.

>>720474612
I think it's at the end of high halls, next to the bench. It'll be above that blocked vertical space in the corridor with the big dudes leading to cogwork dancers.

>>720474689
>>720474492
Where is the source of they guy saying they didn't playtest their game? Lmao

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>>720471360
>>720472641

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GOD FINALLY

The ending would have hit me so much harder if I didn't spend 4 hours on that boss. The Red Memory sequence got to be big time, literally choking back tears. If I wasn't so pissed from the fight the appearance of the Knight would have absolutely broke me.

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>>720474419
I'm playing on Keyboard and did my own imputs with Hotkey. Keyboard Chads are always one step ahead.

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>>720474841
The only unique ones are the rasher, lacquer, and queen's egg. The others are merely repeatables for fun and profit.

>threatens to kill the flea for peeping
>forcing mixed bath with a shota with no consent
What does she mean by this

>>720472575
She has 3 phases, no checkpoints. Good luck.

>>720474450
Most people complaining about beastfly fight it before they have any damage upgrades or good tools.

There's an "ornate lock" in whiteward. Where's the key for it?

can anyone with actual reading comprehension explain the red memory to me, i don’t get it

>>720474851
No it isn't fine, that's why they nerfed sand carvers.

If they aren't putting a bench into the game it's because it is more difficult to programm rather than just changing a number from a 2 to a 1.

>>720475062
Also in Whiteward.

>>720475000
What do you get for the lacquer? I'm guessing a mask shard since I'm missing just one.

>>720474793
it does feel cheapened to a very small degree, like if i had opened cheat engine just the one time to get past some quick bs and then closed it, but ultimately it was the developers who did it soooooo....

>>720475062
In Whiteward, on the opposite side of the area, hidden behind one of the stupidest secret paths in the game

>>720475071
>her childhood story
>"live your own life"
That's pretty much it

>>720475062
I think it's in First Shrine, but I might be misremembering

>>720475032
Yeah I didn't realize she was the actual final boss. I was expecting to fight a beefed up Grandmother Silk afterwards. The original Hollow Knight conditioned me into expecting a prelim fight, then an actual final fight with another boss.

is acquiring a map of each area impossible now that I'm in Act 3 and Shakra is defending Bellhart?

>>720474941
>4 hours on Lost Lace
How?
It's lace 2 but with a couple new attacks.

>>720475148
Nope, just money (I'm pretty sure), the delivery is unique but not the reward.

>>720475000
The quest for lacquer never showed up, I have already met the mask maker before, are there special requirements or something?

>>720472568
I'm glad Skull Tyrant is at the very bottom, how the FUCK did that end up in the final game without someone saying "Hang on, this is nothing."

>>720474874
Hornet must demonstrate her generosity and willingness to help the people of Pharloon before Act 3 can be revealed.

I have all of the maps, I’m still in Act 2, but I can’t trigger the Shakra final quest. Do I seriously have to buy out all the stupid pins too?

>>720474425
I think it's the tool system I hate the most. Shards were a mistake. Just nerf the tools and let us always use them after a bench.

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>THERE'S A THIRD FUCKING GAUNTLET
THERE'S A THIRD FUCKING GAUNTLET
>THERE'S A THIRD FUCKING GAUNTLET
THERE'S A THIRD FUCKING GAUNTLET
>THERE'S A THIRD FUCKING GAUNTLET
THERE'S A THIRD FUCKING GAUNTLET
>THERE'S A THIRD FUCKING GAUNTLET
THERE'S A THIRD FUCKING GAUNTLET
CHERRRRRRRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY WHEN I CATCH YOU ARI GIBSONNNNNNNNNN

>>720475173
ok yeah but white lady’s section confused me. What does “having to seem unrepentant” have to do with any of that

>>720475241
You already have all maps from her (having all maps triggers her quest which is required for act 3), except void you automatically gets maps for new "zones"

>>720471714
What the fuck is kaizo? I keep seeing it being brought up

>>720472142
Get one of those big controllers people use for fighting game tournaments and learn to play with your feet.

>>720475000
The repeatables do generate an entry in your completed quests log the first time you do them, but they're basically just for flavour

>there's an E33 reference in the game
Cringe

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This guy accessible in Act 2?

Is the Pinstress duel act 3? Or is it possible in act 2?

>>720475167
Is it like under the elevator or something? I've gone through whiteward several times at this point. Maybe in the furnace?

>>720475597
You can get every single flea in act 2

>>720475495
a version with extremely higher difficulty, usually platformers

>>720471179
I just learned you can attack upwards and downwards while clinging to a wall.

>>720475486
so there's a map that gets filled out when you return to fight Silk after obtaining the 3 hearts? because I've been to the Nameless Town which doesn't have a map, but I'm not sure it has one at all.

how good is act 3? i really don't want to do the stuff to unlock it unless it's good.

Can't wait for some kinda analysis video or article to explain what the fuck happened in that entire game.

I'm guessing the Silkmother created Lace? No idea why, either to be a protector of the Citadel or because she just wanted a daughter. Also she seemed to know of Hornet's existence considering her capture at the beginning of the game. My guess is she needed Hornet's silk to keep Lace alive? And how did she know of Hornet's existence in the first place? And where do the Weavers fit into all of this? Clearly they resided in Pharloom at some point, but when? Before or after Hallownest? So much shit I probably missed in lore tablets that I couldn't really parse at the time.

>>720475597
You can get out of Memorium? Did I miss an exit?

Okay you know what I sort of understand why they took 7 years.

>https://litter.catbox.moe/6136ytts2h2f6ld4r.png
Taking into account Hornet's size and her movement and the sheer ampunt of assets Pharloom has, it is a fucking miracle they were able to make Pharloom and even fucking Act 3 as well.

>>720475130
>>720475167
Got it, thanks.

>>720475619
Act 3 only, it'll make sense why

>>720475056
I figured as much, but it's really dumb to try enter the area so soon into the game.

>>720475454
You get a shortcut before the boss. Hang in there

Act 3 really sucks and feels like a pointless waste of time. I just want it to be over I'm so fucking bored
Why did this game take SIX YEARS to make? Its such a nothingburger

>>720475597
Yes, either by entering the Putrified ducts through memorium, or by entering it after beating Groal the master of AIDS.

>>720475739
>litter
>link is immediately broken

Kill yourself

>>720475495
Kaizo is japanese for "modified", basically its origins are that some jap made a challenging and trolly edit of Super Mario World for his friend to play, and called it kaizo mario (aka modified mario), the game became popular later, and now kaizo just denotes all challenging mario levels or hacks.

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>>720471589
Have too much though and you end up like this guy.

>>720475702
they put all the bosses there but not much besides that

>>720475760
>the world is ending so let's duel lol
so good

>Use up all my memory lockets on Crests I don't use
>Visit Eva hoping I'll get something good
>Oh shit she's actually-
>Upgrades the Hunter's Crest a second time
What the fuck is the point of the other Crests if Hunter is just going to be the only one with any kind of upgrade? What the fuck is this shit?

>>720475454
i'm probably just a god gamer but i found this one piss easy
the enemies are really not that bullshit

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The swamp people aren't even haunted.
They just have everyone so goddamn much.

>>720475597
finish exploring that area the map shows you

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Bros... I made it

>>720475634
It's hidden behind some bullshit in the foreground and a shaft of light in an area of the game where they spam the shit out of both of these without them actually hiding anything.

>>720471589
Drinking it? Inject it straight into my veins yes please. Do you even love plasium?

>>720475870
Hunter probably gets upgrades because it doesn't start with any interesting effect. I'd have liked more reasons to swap crests, I think most players will just pick one and stick with it the entire playthrough.

>>720475963
Where is that? Map location?

>>720475963
gz

Weavelight just speeds up Silk Heart regen? So there’s almost no point to it? What a waste of a slot.

>>720475856
It was supposed to be safe with no side effects...

so which crest is the best one? from my playthrough architect with druid's eye with life blood overdosing seemed to be really strong

>>720475597
Hmmm, I wonder if that unexplored path leads somewhere near that flea

>>720474939
Heh

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>>720475963
>same platforming x 50
what did they mean by this

>>720475816
It’s a bit more than that, “kaizo” has implications of being impossible blind, and requiring prior game knowledge (gained through repeated deaths). The classic term “kaizo block” refers to an invisible block placed to fuck a player making a jump. You can’t know the block is there until you try the jump and get trolololoed into the pit.

When people say Silksong is “kaizo” they mean death is mandatory because the game can get you into situations with no winning play; the only winning play was to already have known the situation was possible and avoid it.

As someone who struggled through Hunter’s March only to die the first time I sat at that FUCKING bench, I think the kaizo comparisons are fair. The game definitely does like to punish your ignorance.

>>720476123
Hunter

>>720476058
Above the place where you killed grandma. Caution: It's the worst platforming section

>>720471714
>I hate this, I hate how now every fucking game is an ego game and devs put bullshit after bullshit instead of making a good designed game.
Retarded faggot. The bilewater boss isn't even hard, the stress of the runback is what makes it hard.
>t. spent hours trying to beat him

>>720475804
They probably delayed the game a few years to make Act 3 only for it to be garbage

>>720475870
The hunters crest in the beginning is clearly gimped compared to other crests, when its fully upgraded it becomes good, average. Wanderer's crest is still 100x better.

The main reason you want to get Eva's upgrades is for Sylphsong which is very useful.

Nah but when do I start getting the GOOD crests?

>bro remember the first game we made!?! remember that lil nigga knight bugboi we all heckin loved!?!
I hate this shit so much. Reminds me of dark souls 3.

>>720476123
Depends, Wanderer is probably the best DPS crest, reaper is decent, hunter is viable, but it's best avoided, architect is very strong if you are a tool spammer, and no one really cares about the rest.

>>720470938
Many such cases.
Rosaries are basically ephemeral and if you manage to ever stock up on them, just expect you're going to job twice and lose them all.

>>720476220
Are you talking about Grand Silk Mother?

>>720471179
I instinctively tried down dashing because I always traveled with Dash master in Hollow Knight. Found out about running by accident though.

You fags are bitching like crazy about act 3 holy shit. There's absolutely no way it's that bad.

>>720476279
AT-ST! AT-ST!

>>720476087
It also gives you an extra pip of silk, so there's that.

>>720470938
*laughs in cheat engine*

>b-b-but you didn't beat the game
yeah, and you have never touched a woman.

>>720476279
That’s the whole point of a sequel, nigga.

That's it, i'm fucking done for today. Act 3 is so tedious to play that I can't bring myself to play more of it. I'm sure it would be more tolerable if I had upgraded my needle before starting it but every single fucking bug taking over 6 hits to kill no matter the area just deletes any motivation to explore the map. The game peaked in act 2 and I wish I stopped there and returned to act 3 some other time. Acts 1 and 2 were so much fun to explore and besides a few minor annoyances I very much enjoyed my time. Act 3 is so fucking boring to "explore" and on top of that I feel so weak even against the most basic of bugs.

Right now I'm so burned out and just want to rush to the true ending but I'm simply not enjoying the game anymore. What do I do bros? At this pace it's going to take me fucking weeks to finish act 3.

>>720476279
as if it was a sequel or something

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thats what you get for being GAY for your twin brother

>>720475719
She wanted a daughter after the Weavers betrayed her.
>how did she know of Hornet's existence in the first place
She was hunting weaver hybrids from all over the world for silk
>Weavers
Silk created them, she went too schizo, they fled to other kingdoms and the few that remained him themselves in their Weavenests and tried to find a way to take down Silk using technology since she could manipulate silk and it would be useless against her.

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UFUFU
Finally got to act 3 after exploring the shit out of the game and getting Bind ending first. Wish Grand Mother was harder. Played about 10 minutes of act 3 but I've had enough for today. Overall enjoying it so far.
Also I WANNA FUCK THIS SILK IMAGINE HOW IT FEELS

>>720476123
Reaper. But only Beastchads actually beat the game.

>>720476279
I feel like there was relatively minimal of that (a bit more towards the end)

The shitposting literally starts at the same time everyday

>>720476279
KIno. Seethe

>>720471165
I wouldn't mind it, if the dash you get let you dash through a boss.
You'd think that the dash would be useful for maneuvering around big enemies, but it really isn't at all.

>>720476347
The only two bosses that really pissed me the ever loving fuck off was the lady dancer whose heart you need, and the final boss.

Granted, I've yet to explore Pharloom in Act 3, I kinda went straight for the ending. Gonna be exploring more soon.

>>720476361
But I've had sex with like 10+ women... Only 1 gf though. I've engaged in too much of hedonism

>>720476087
>>720476356
By that I mean, it works like a silkheart.

>>720473986
>it's easy if you use broken crests
>nearly died regardless

>no sexo Lace art
It's over.