>>720496640
*remake Danganronpa 2

>>720496640
>could remake 1 which is older and needs sharper graphics for modern screens
>could remake v3 which destroyed the franchise and would maybe make sense thematically
>remakes 2 instead
literally for what reason?

>>720496748
Not a remake, hidden sequel.

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>he actually thought Danganronpa was over

>>720496640
>series is meant to [HEADCANON] and it's ending is [HEADCANON]
uh huh

>>720496748
Remaking the first game would only work if it becomes Distrust. The reason why remaking the second game works is because it's the only game where who dies and lives doesn't matter since the anime saves everyone anyway.

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I think the new mode is written by Nintendo, which will be good in some ways but will never reach the peak of Nagito's case. Mahiru will make it to the end and Mikan will be the first victim to avoid having to write her. Still more excited for picrelated if chapter 2 ever happens.

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>>720496748
>DRIF shows they already have no qualms making a separate scenario for DR1, even if it was short and not canon to the main overall timeline/universe
>A remake be a chance to do it for a full on new game.
>DR2 is doing it first.

>>720498209
You do realize this game is going to be on different platforms too, right?

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>>720498209
>I think the new mode is written by Nintendo
yeah and then they release it on steam as well because that is what Nintendo is known for

>>720496748
Same reason Alphadream skipped remaking Partners in Time for a Bowser's Inside Story remake.

It's a rerun

>>720496748
because it's not a remake, it's literally just v4

>>720496640
>a critique of franchise milking
It's as meaningful as an AAA game saying that corporations are bad.

>>720496640
It's a test. Spike Chunsoft would like nothing more than to say DR is formally back but Kodaka is burnt out on it. So, let a few potential replacement scenario writers see if they can crank out a decent AU scenario, and if it works, they have their writer(s) for a follow-up installment ready to go. If it doesn't work, hey, it was an AU anyway.
My question is who's going to take over the reins to do JP Monokuma, giuven that both of his previous VAs have passed.

Oh, it's not being written by Kodaka according to X. He's only supervising as his friend comes up with something new and does the whole thing.
That said, what's the point of this?
Wouldn't it be better to devise an IF with completely new characters at least?
...This isn't a pc98 game that some would like to see with a new coat of paint. It's not a game with any problems or issues or anything.
I struggle to understand why Atlus is remaking Persona 4 as well, all over again, when P4G is alright.

Seriously, why? Since it's a different writer, you won't even recreate the crack insanity of Kodaka.
They're going to put in hours and hours for this, the artist will spend hours and hours meticulously drawing CGs, the musician will spend hours and hours remixing... why not take the force behind all that effort and exert it to new beginnings instead of a rehash?

Fuck, man. Sure, I'll play it, but why? What's with the industry obstinately sticking to what's old? Not even sequels or spinoffs, but the same things iterated again over and over and over.

>>720499587
>What's with the industry obstinately sticking to what's old? Not even sequels or spinoffs, but the same things iterated again over and over and over.
>Sure, I'll play it

>>720496640
It's called 2x2. Literally Danganronpa 4.

>>720499587
>I struggle to understand why Atlus is remaking Persona 4 as well, all over again, when P4G is alright.
Because they are desperate to procrastinate releasing persona 6 knowing they will never live up to the hype.

>>720499587
Said friend wrote the worst route in Hundred Line.
This is a dumb cashgrab demake, as usual.

>>720499319
Kodaka keeps making Danganronpa clones, he just wants the Danganronpa money for himself, it's a shitty situation because Kodaka is literally nothing without Danganronpa

>>720499587
>>720499974
It's always money. It doesn't matter if it sounds like a dumb decision, if it makes profit they'll do it.

>>720499917
Pfft, yeah right. What next? V3 was actually 53 or some shit?

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>>720499587
The modern internet has allowed games to have much longer lifespans than they would otherwise so it's easier to revive old franchises with remakes. DR2 is 13 years old so the teenagers and young adults who played it at release have aged out and we now have a new generation to resell games to. Development times for games have ballooned as well so everyone is playing it safe so that they don't spend most of a decade funding a flop. Stapling a new route that's basically a new game on top of a remake is an easier way to get it out of the door rather than an entirely original DR4

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>>720500107
i almost feel bad for the nigger
he basically had to sell his company to the chinks to fund projects desperately trying to prove he was more than just "the danganronpa author" and constantly failed on basically every single attempt to make something bigger than danganronpa
then again after v3 i don't feel bad for it, he deserves every single second of this torture and then some

>>720500335
>DR2 is 13 years old so the teenagers and young adults who played it at release have aged out and we now have a new generation to resell games to
The problem with this line of thinking is that they ported this and the rest of the mainline games to the platform less than four years ago.

>>720500619
And companies like CH ported the nep trilogy to the switch twice, and also are about to port it twice to the PS4, what's your point?

>>720499587
I'm afraid you're in the minority. Fan boys over X are squealing with joy, and that's all Kodaka's seeing, so he'll keep doing what he does.
Add to that how people want to be 'part of the experience', and well, you've got a framework trapping people in this endless cycle of remakes.

>>720500619
That does muddy the argument but I think people are more enticed by a fresh remake than they are of a port.

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It is weird that they skipped 1.
But this is a weird concept for a forth game.
I don't think anyone expected that the next DR game would be a redux with the same characters from a previous cast.

But, if you were to do a borrowed-cast-sequel, DR2 does fit the best. Trigger Happy Havoc, while having my personal favorite cast, had a really good set of survivors and a natural dwindling of the cast. Many of the deaths are super important to the actual over arcing mystery of the game, after all.
But in 2, really the plot just happens without any of the characters doing anything. And it had the worst survivors with all of them barring Hajime and Fuyuhiko being nothing characters who at best had a handful of good jokes.

Mahiru in a micro bikini.
Kodaka pls

>>720500513
80% of his success is the Danganronpa artist and composer. Fucking dishonest kodaka

>>720500103
he also wrote the best route in Shuten Order (Ministry of Health), which was coincidentally also a killing game.

>>720498659
>for a Bowser's Inside Story remake.
The one that flopped legendarily hard?

>>720501853
Science route was way better.

>hajimeme and hopeman die chapter 1
>chiaki is your new protag
yfw?

>>720496640
They will make Komaeda and Hajime gay in the scenario

>>720499587
After the garbage that was Hundred Lines why would anyone want Kodaka to make more games? Retard

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>>720502096
As long as Chiaki survives this time, I'm ok with it.

>>720502373
so you haven't even played his newest garbage called Shuten Order

>2x2 will feature new scenarios
Why are they making gay this time? Mahiru? I sure as hell love new woke Japan.

>>720496640
They're going to make a meta statement about remakes and say that they're actually all memory wiped actors

>>720499780
not that guy, but i'll also play it. I just won't pay for it

>>720500107
He didn’t even write all of Hundred Lines, but hired different writers to make different routes, dude wants his own Spike Chunsoft it’s pathetic lol.
I would be empathetic if he actually loves the series like Kojima and Metal Gear, but he actually hates it and wants to ruin its legacy with more homosexuality. He can’t accept the fact that he will forever be known as the Danganronpa Guy

>>720501131
>Mahiru not in virgin tier
>Peko not in one sexual partner tier despite her loyalty to Fuyuhiko

>>720496640
v3 was trash

>>720501131
Danganronpa 1 deserved the new scenario as the cast is better with the best chemistry, but lots of the cases were too easy to figure out

>>720502456
There’s a yuri ship in the ending so I never bothered with it. It’s sad that Tumbler troon forever ruined the series and got into Kodaka’s head.

>>720503248
I think the difference is that DR2 is easier to rewrite into new scenarios since they were changing things on the fly the first time around - i.e. Nagito was supposed to exit in Chapter 1 originally, and Fuyuhiko got swapped out for Hiyoko in Chapter 3 so that he wasn't an exact parallel of Kiyotaka's personality-shift-to-instant-death from the first game

>>720497956
Shit, am I gonna have to finish watching that stupid anime to understand the lore of 2x2

>>720500335
I "played" DR2 through watching a fucking somethingawful playthrough (I don't browse there but this was a grim time for translated media) and going to literal chinese video sites to see what happens. This time I won't be spoiled since I got to play DR1 and DRV3 when they came out

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2nd game was picked because they're attempting to work around V3's ending by retroactively establishing its content as the product of a programmatic error rooted in an issue gone wrong from 2's cyberized, virtual, dreamscape setting.
In other words, they're trying to say V3 was itself isolated from every other Danganronpa rather than a part of its continuum and was itself purely fictional, but its characters attained enough sentience to try and break past their programmatic mold.
Naturally, they'll direct the story thataway to operate in congruence with the whole AI thing. That's the 'in' thing today, after all. Of that, there can be no doubt.
It's also 2x2 because they're merging the content of
1. THH
2. SDR2
3. UDG
4. V3
all into one game. Again, this is possible only because DR2 transpires within a cyberized world.
The characters who'll die and the characters who'll live will all be inverted from its initial content, and the final boss will not be Junko, but will instead be the whole cast of Danganronpa across each game. Those dying and those surviving won't be characters anymore as much the verses through which their life is. Basically, worlds will be fighting. Danganronpa will be pitted against Danganronpa.

With all that said, given that the fanbase (majority) is no longer lunatic men who like tricks, traps, sexy women, romance, confronting wills, kino, debators, and a fight against all, Komatsuzaki Rui's art will be spent in service of drawing worthless CGs of male characters and naturally the scenario will be tainted with shit since Kodaka, under illusion X, mistakenly thinks the cosplayer e-whores give a fuck about his series beyond extracting pointers to attire in order to best milk retards, or that the disabled women incapable of interacting with a story beyond saying 'crazy! it was crazy!' and wanting to read fanfiction of men fucking men are ''people'' worth catering to. Add to that the shit state of the world, and any good you get will be a miracle.

>>720503980
This is schizoprehnic enough to make me take it as canon even if the actual game comes out and proves it wrong.
It's canon in my heart.

>>720501131
Ultimately it'll depend on how long the new content is. remaking the original 2 feels more like a bonus given the trilogy is easily playable on every current console and PC (hell people already compared the lines and it seems to be using the same script as the original so it's not like it got retranslated)
If this is as long as DR 2 and for all intents and purposes DR 4 I think people will look past at the completely unnecessary remake, if the new content sucks then at least you can replay DR2 with a fancier coat of paint.

>>720503796
Considering I basically just spoiled it for you, not really. It's shit anyway, so you don't lose anything by not watching it. If there's anything you need explaining from the anime, I'm happy to do so.

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>>720503980
fucking kek

>>720504202
I wouldn't call the shitty live 2d animations a "fancier coat of paint"

>>720503710
Makes sense. Hiyoko’d death felt like a collateral damage, very underused character. At best she deserved her own case.

>>720496748
>game name is danganronpa 2x2
>hurrrr why are they remaking 2
>it's danganronpa 4 and the new scenario is gonna be ass

>>720503980
V3 means 53. You can ignore it and actually make the third part just fine.

>>720499587
show me the lewdest hundred line CG so I can see whether 2x2 will have fanservice or not

>>720499319
>My question is who's going to take over the reins to do JP Monokuma
Detective Conan
who also voices Hajime
https://youtu.be/nBmFJXQe81w?si=oiauT-SZjOmTe4vw&t=69
https://youtu.be/CVWI5laS1fc?si=vv0jGlvRTqWtGlc_&t=46

>>720506681
https://files.catbox.moe/tsqiho.png

>>720502997
He is just lazy now
>No courts
>No puzzles
>Just hire chatgpt/writers
It's what Mikami did with Tango, TEW wasn't made for him it was made by some japanese woman, he just stamped his name on it and as soon as he saw TEW wouldn't outsell RE he abandoned the team KEK
Kamiya also abandoned PG and is trying to get on DMC now

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>>720496748
I legit think its DR4.
They're pulling a Higurashi Gou

>>720506809
SEXOOOOOOOO

>>720506369
They did make the third part
It had our fucking BOY JUZO

>>720496748
>>could remake v3 which destroyed the franchise and would maybe make sense thematically
DR3(canon btw) still exists

I want twogami to sit on my face

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>>720496748
>1 which is older and needs sharper graphics for modern screens
>v3 which destroyed the franchise

>>720507184
They should make dr3 a fanfic. That said imagine if dr3 characters appear

>>720506723
Ah, thanks.
Initial impression is the delivery is a bit too...perky, I guess. But I'm willing to keep an open mind.

>>720496640
>my creation was so good
>im such a genius man we reached 53 game
>people like it so hard we got release after release to the point psychopath turned it into reality gameshow on tv
that what i understood from the ending.
Also the cosplayer girl was full of shit since first chapter with her "look i can't cosplay real thing because i get pink skin" implying ultimate cosplayer couldn't cosplay a pink version of any character

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Akane's the character to watch out for. Yes I know, fucking Akane but no really they might be incorporating her beta character in this

>>720502010
Yes, because it was a total cashgrab on a dead platform.
Same deal here, minus the dead platform part.

>>720507934
we will get the kino V3 crossover as final arc, because the reality show is such a big scene other chanel are doing rival show and since they were bad at it, their plan is to only use fan service and reuse already good character and story from previous popular danganronpa

>>720508208
so it'll literally be >>720503980
?

>>720502382
Happy ending with Chiaki is a must, parting ending shit was the worst part of 2

>>720508208
Nah they're not going to do anything quite like that because they've already done it. It'll be something that gets everyone upset again

>>720496748
>destroyed the franchise
Brainlet filtered.

>>720508504
alternate universe is pure fan service and it will be the only way to have anything to tell as the last chapter.
but i could accept simulation glitching and getting wacky shit like >>720507934
But we will see what they are cooking with Izuru
and at the end

>>720496640
I don’t mind it as long as they do some fun scenarios, if it’s just a bait and switch to actually being a V3 sequel then it’ll be kinda boring.
But we’re getting more Chiaki so who gives a fuck calling it she gets killed straight away

Why does Gonta talk like a caveman in the english version of Danganronpa V3?

inb4 Chiaki and Nagito double kill right off the bat to piss off fans even more

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>>720507690
I might be wrong but it really sounds like Conan but perkier
especially in the 2nd youtube link a little before the timestamp

>>720508946
That would be hilarious though. Get those shitters out of the way ASAP so the rest of the cast can shine.

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>>720508754
Cause NISA is garbage.
Also did anyone here play the latest Kodakaslop Shuten Order? How is it?

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>>720508748
>Be the ultimate gamer
>reveal she was a AI and so is killed as a traitor
>later reveal she was part of the class
>the only one that died
>announce remake + bonus
>finaly more Nanami content and hope
>get killed first chapter
I would unironically despair

>Tsumugi controls everything.
>Even your thoughts.
>Can't make Rantaro step one foot to the left
>Can't control Oma
>Executing the wrong person isn't a problem but dying before getting executed is.
>Not knowing the victim is also an issue for some reason. Even with all the previous fuck ups.
>The whole prologue. So does everyone watch this game or not?
>The unexplained helmets.
>The unexplained Team Dangan logo on the dome
>Unexplained cospox
>Unexplained necronomicon.
>Unexplained construction. Why do they need to build the set if there were 53 seasons?

V3 makes no fucking sense.

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Any girls here who like him? I cant be the only one...

>>720509127
I'd blame Kodaka more than NISA. Kodaka refuses intentionally picks the cheapest and shittiest localizers in order to save money. He did the same with Hundred Line and Shuten Order

>>720509127
worse than Rain Code and Hundred Lines

>>720496748
>v3 which destroyed the canon
V3 isn't even in the canon, plus DR3 already did that.

>>720509141
bravo kodaka

>>720509204
uhhhhhh

>>720509204
>Unexplained necronomicon.
It's also a simulation

>>720497956
Distrust would be incredible to get now but with the direction they took the franchise after 1 I really dont think we'll ever see anything more grounded like that
1 is still my favorite by a mile for being the closest thing to it in tone, even if it did end up tremendously different

>>720509204
Tsumugi was literally bullshitting during the last trial. It's why she has her "flawless copy" line right at the end. The game is intentionally nonsensical so you can take whatever you want away from it at the end. The ambiguity is what makes it divisive.

>>720509412
You're wrong.
V3 is and isn't in the canon such that part of it takes place in the world of Danganronpa, and part does not. Just watch the anime, and you'll understand.

>>720509141
Unless they completely throw out what was already established by the main story about her, she literally can't get a happy ending.
Even her Island Mode ending is basically just asking Hajime not to forget her after he and the others inevitably leave the simulation.

>>720509716
Sounds like a great way to make redditor retards clap at meta writing just to retcon it years later when you need to shit out sequels am I right

>>720509043
And this is literally only because Makoto miraculously survives his execution (which I have no idea how you can consider that "stronger writing", but I'll get back to that in a second) and Junko realizes she can't bullshit her way out of anything, thus creating her ultimatum. Makoto was still alive and he would've denied being involved in any murder, since Junko is a psychopath and has fun with this, so that's why she creates the ultimatum she does. Kaede on the other hand doesn't get that benefit, because she literally thinks she's the killer, it was her plan, and it went exactly how she expected it to. Tsumugi can hold on to her bullshit because there is nothing contradicting it and there's no reason to assume anything does.
>>720509204
>She can't consciously control people, just implants personalities, thus some things are left up to luck
>Unironically wrote Kokichi to be too smart, hastily and sloppily tries to get rid of him leading to her downfall
>Executing the wrong person isn't a problem, because the people watching assume that person is the killer especially when the fucking person themselves thinks so, while an execution gone wrong can hampers the audience enjoyment/satisfaction of seeing their gory reward at the end of a trial
>Not knowing the victim would lead to a very unsatisfying conclusion for the audience, but also I'm pretty sure Monokuma admits that he doesn't give a shit and will execute someone anyway
>Open-ended, we can speculate this, it's fun for theorizing
>Helmets are explained as part of the fake plot to wipe the Ultimates' memories of their talents so they blend in better or something
>Team Dangan logo is because Team Dangan owns the property (or maybe that's just what Tsumugi wants you to think, up to you)
>Cospox literally does not fucking matter
>Red herring motive, probably would've gotten some extra to get hit by a flashback light and have them be the "revived" person
>This one I genuinely have no explanation for

>>720496748
>could remake 1 which is older
nigger, they're both psp VNs, there is no age disparity between them

>>720501131
Put them all into Oh No given the grand twist of the game.

>>720503098
There's never any indication that they had sex, though. Given how Fuyuhiko talks about Peko in chapter 2, I think they never even kissed before.
>>720503248
But with DR1 the cast that survives is practically perfect, and most of those who die actually have plot-important reasons to die. So it's harder to revamp that. Plus DR1 has a really good overaching story until the very end, so there isn't a great reason to do a weird what-if.

>>720509204
Tsumugi didn't control shit, she was was shit wanabee junko fangirl.
All she could do is input false memory in people brain using lamp, so everything you see from it is bullshit (Only angie could understand this, not even the ending hater did lol)
>Unexplained necronomicon
Actualy it's explained with the Kaede sister in the name list, she was actualy going to come back using said lamp on her to get Kaede 2.0
>Unexplained cospox
is this the corona virus planet edition ? for me it could mean there is indeed world problem and Tsumigi did indeed trap them for real and took the chance to be Junko her favorite cosplay character

>>720509906
>Red herring motive, probably would've gotten some extra to get hit by a flashback light and have them be the "revived" person
So they can do flawless facial surgery now too?

>>720510050
what did weedman and brown slut survive for

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>getting to listen to him talk about his shit all over again
GOTY

>>720509204
>Tsumugi controls everything.
She has an influence but does not control everything.
>Even your thoughts.
False.
>Can't make Rantaro step one foot to the left
Yes.
>Can't control Oma
Yes.
>Executing the wrong person isn't a problem but dying before getting executed is.
A different execution is still exciting to the audience, I cut short execution is not.
>Not knowing the victim is also an issue for some reason. Even with all the previous fuck ups.
Screws with their ability to make the show a coherent plot for the audience.
>The whole prologue. So does everyone watch this game or not?
Up to interpretation.
>The unexplained helmets.
The mindwashing ones at the beginning? It's a fake memory to distract from what the real memory altering tool is.
>The unexplained Team Dangan logo on the dome
Danganronpa is made by Team Dangan.
>Unexplained cospox
This one actually is kinda contradictory.
>Unexplained necronomicon.
Kaede's twin sister.
>Unexplained construction. Why do they need to build the set if there were 53 seasons?
Every season has a new location.

>>720510106
Considering shit like flashback lights exist, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they can. Was that supposed to be some kind of "gotcha"?

>>720503796
you don't really, it all should make sense when you understand how broken being the ultimate despair mean, and the whole simulation not being mean to fry brain even with the worst virus possible

>>720509779
Do you mean DR3? This is the first I've heard of anything like that, not sure if I just missed something. As far as I'm aware, V3 takes place entirely outside of DR 1-3, but that DR exists inside V3's universe as a fictional piece of media.

>>720509884
The thing is that it's so ambiguous that you can't even really retcon it. The end of the game literally has Shuichi saying "maybe danganronpa was real". So no matter what you think the truth is you're right because there really isn't an answer. Not trying to defend it btw. Leaving an ending open to interpretation can be done well, but I don't think V3 does that.

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>>720509793
i just want more Chiaki content without the despair part

>>720509204
>>720509906
Oh, also, Tsumugi not being able to control people fully also extends to Angie, considering she broke the flashback light, fucking up part of Tsumugi's plans for that chapter.
>>720510304
Exactly this, people who think there was any kind of retcon are stupid.

>Tsumugi is a fictional character that Mastermind Tsumugi was playing
>One of this character's traits is that she has cospox
>Suddenly people now argue about whether this is important even though this very well could be just a trait that the fictional character "Tsumugi" has and not the real one
I genuinely don't know why people were so hung up on this.

could they do a Hajime dies and protag switch like v3? I don't know if anyone could take up the new role though. Maybe if this was thh I could see Sayaka or Kyoko be the new protag.

V3 isn't canon to the hope's peak saga, retards

>>720510662
Mahiru or Nagito.

>>720510325
The sad thing is cospox will be used as the justification for "actually it was really real and Tsumugi lied about it being fiction" and everybody will clap.
People who pretend right now that the ending was 300 iq for doing the meta thing will in the future pretend they always knew it actually wasn't fiction.

>>720510662
Not at the start because that would just be rehashing V3.
Maybe as the victim of Chapter 5. They're gonna have to do some crazy shit with that chapter if they want to match the OG.

>>720510662
We literally play someone else in SDR2 for one section

>>720496640
I hate this series because there are no h-scenes.

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>>720510662
>I don't know if anyone could take up the new role though
MY FUCKING HERO
disguised as Hajime

>>720496640
>series is meant to end with V3 and it's ending is supposed to be a critique of franchise milking
Yeah and all the fans hated it. funnny

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Love him

>>720510707
it could be with a single change and a good writing.
But ending hater will never accept it and i doubt the fan would even understand it

>>720510986
What change?

>>720510325
I think whether it's fiction or not doesn't really matter. The game's universe could just be an alternate reality to ours where Danganronpa is super popular, or real killing games could be an underground thing, or maybe the events of the Hope's Peak saga were real and then video games based on them were created (ala how we create games based on real historical events) that got wildly popular leading to real death games. It's all fun to speculate, but I don't think it matters in the end. What matters is that Shuichi, Maki and Himiko escaped and get to live real lives outside of the fucked up situation they were in. The game's setting is so disconnected from the Hope's Peak saga that it genuinely doesn't matter if they confirm one thing or another, because it should have no bearing on the third game. Shit like >>720510730 is stupid, because why would it being real have any relevancy to Shuichi's story? All it is is extra lore at most. The story doesn't gain anything from it, like I said, it's just a fun thing to speculate about.

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I don't think she's gonna make it...

>>720496640
>saihara ends danganronpa, no more killing games
>team danganronpa goes back and remakes/reimagines 2 instead
BTFO

>>720510879
>hajime suddenly becomes fat as shit
>everyone's confused but accepts it since he's such a good imposter
GOTY material

>>720510730
that exactly what i undestood from the whole final trial, and the only counterpoint is Kibo 4channer comment, but first danganronpa clearly showed you could just brodcast killing game and they can't stop you, so.

>>720510304
It's the opposite. V3 exists in DR as fictional media as evident through Danganronpa 2.5, which, as you'll see, will heavily influence DR2X2. As for how, well, that's already been told in the thread.

>>720511104
To be fair, you couldn't stop it because the whole world was undergoing basically an apocalypse.

>>720503796
The anime totally destroys the entire lore. Suposedly the world entered into despair after watching some girl die in a shitty squid game broadcast. I can watch way more despair inducing snuff shit than that crap.

>>720511152
>as evident through Danganronpa 2.5
The hell are you talking about?

>>720511040
Oh don't worry lol they will make sure both the Kibougamine story is real AND v3 is part of it, you can be certain of that.
Tears will be delicious.

>>720511152
I think this is the most schizophrenic post in the thread, kek.
>>720511237
There was an OVA for the anime that shows what Nagito had to go through to wake up from being comatose in the simulation.

>>720511247
I mean, again, I don't give a shit either way. But why would that affect anything at all? I'd only care if it meant that somehow Shuichi shows up in the second game, because that'd be really fucking stupid. However with the existence of all the other Danganronpa titles up to the fifty third, it's impossible for the Hope's Peak Saga to have any bearing by that point even if it is real. Again, it's just lore then. A neat "fun fact" rather than anything significant, so I don't exactly know why there'd be any tears about it.

>>720511072
>you don't even know you were playing the impostor until the final trial, except for very subtle clues that aren't spelled out
KINO

>>720510720
it should be Mahiru so we can have an fmc and romance all the guys instead. Maybe even a Woman's Nut CG

>>720510209
Aoi is one of the best characters in the game. She's both the straight (wo)man and emotional heart. She feels the impact of the loss of the characters, and the stress of the situation more than any other character.

Yasuhiro is really underrated as comedic relief. If you replay DR1 he has some of the funniest lines rather consistently.
He also serves the narrative purpose of allowing the characters to still go over some obvious discoveries in the class trials without making anyone else look like an idiot.
He also is a more complicated character when you dig into him.

Something interesting about DR 1 is how every character, despite being pretty simple and not over-written, still feel like complete people with hidden depths and multifaceted-ness.

>>720511206
To be fair, what caused the world to start going to shit was always the mass suicide of the reserve course. Chiaki's death video was only for her class and also it was combined with a hypnosis video, to plunge them into despair, that was the really stupid part.

>>720511152
>meta game about the game being reality and continuing story from a fictional game
>turn out it was a fiction inside the danganronpa real world
>even explain the reuse of first danganronpa crime case photo since Junko did broadcast it to everyone to use
absolute cinema

>>720511551
As long as it's not fujo or yuri shit, sure. Throw the yumejos a bone. Nagito and Mahiru are underrated as a ship.

>>720510662
Eh, the cast of DR2 are mostly so exaggerated and cartoony that very few of them would work as a player character.
I guess you could do Chiaki or Mahiru. Kinda. Sonia could be interesting as a protag. Maybe the ultimate imposter.

>>720511560
so he exists for 80 iq loser morons with garbage humor who don't understand the trials got it

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>>720507432
Do you want to die?
Because that's how you fucking die.

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>>720509204
I'm gonna be honest, I was writing a reply to this but all of the points ended up boiling down to "you're kind of stupid huh"
I don't know how you sat through 100 hours of murder mystery novels before this if you can't put simple things together

>>720511560
Yasuhiro never got any prediction wrong and it's hilarious considering he the ultimate fortune teller or whatever

>>720511880
It's okay, many people replied to him explaining it.

I wonder if the twist could be that it's 212, and that it's an in-universe remaster or remake of 2.
Mostly because of v3, and how it was supposed to be terrible with the Monokubs and Keebo.

>>720511736
No.
The trials need to go over all the evidence you learn in the investigation. Otherwise the game can't punish you for not paying attention, and any attention spent learning the basic details would be made redundant since it wouldn't be gone over.
Yasuhiro gives, sometimes, a narrative reason to explain things which eventually become obvious. He serves a very useful gameplay role.

Plus, he's also a funny and interesting character only found annoying by autists who take this comedy game too seriously.

>>720511667
Only thing that upsets me with this is that clearly it would be done as a way to beg for money. It's clearly backpedalling on v3 as a desperate measure.
But it would fix v3's garbage and save the franchise so I'd be fine with it. They'll pretend it was always the plan though so it would be annoying

The Ultimate Imposter isn't going to die in 2x2, and his, or rather I should say her, true identity will be revealed as the real Tsumugi whose own identity, as you might've experienced in V3, was but a camouflage a la cosplay by way of the fictitious character 'Tsumugi'. We'll finally see the real Tsumugi, one absent of any cosplay and, consequently, see the imposter outside her rouse, for they're one and the same. The ultimate imposter IS the ultimate cosplayer, because in so cosplaying exceptionally well, she succeeds IN mimicking whosoever she wants, and all of V3 is a cyberized error subsequent to HER actual death that manifested due to not recognizing who, precisely, was killed >>720503980

Gentlemen and gentlemen, there you have it.

>>720511913
The whole gag of him being right only 20-30% of the time is one of my favorite jokes from any game.
My favorite joke from any game, of course, is the random hamburger-abduction story Yasuhiro tells for no reason in chapter 4. Laugh out loud every fucking time.

>>720511913
>Yasuhiro never got any prediction wrong
elaborate

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>>720509204
>Cospox
It's not an issue of what it is, but why it is there and what it means. This is meant to be taken as preemptive, objective "her super cosplay powers don't factor into the cases". Taken as-is, each witnessed act would have to be taken through a "but what if it was her pretending", and no statement would deny it, either from her (lie) or the bears (suspicion).

>>720512087
the anon above did, he actualy explain how 20-30% of his prediction are right and the gag is already funny, then you finish the game and realize 20% of his bulshit was right somehow, lmao

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>>720511551
I only want to date Hajime or Nagito. Fmc with dr1 or v3 boys would work better

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>>720511551
That would fit with Mahiru canonically being a closet pervert and trying to get Hajime's shirt off

So, do you think they're gonna retcon V3's ending somehow with DR2X2?

>>720512423
But why? The two have nothing to do with each other.

>>720512423
100%

fuck fmc.
Gimme a male mc who ends up killing someone and gets away with it, but then proceeds to kill himself later anyway.

>>720511480
>Final chapter happens
>Instead of makoto showing up
>It's shuichi
Keks will be had.

>>720512423
I want every new Danganronpa entry to grossly retcon the previous entries in an escalating level of hackery

>>720512423
Who the fuck knows? The 2x2 in the title implies that it's going to be more absolute hackest shit ever. I'm ready.

>>720512087
Yashiro makes two main predictions throughout the game.
>1 (in chapter 4) that there'll be no more murders.
This is correct. After this there are only suicides
>2 (in his free time events) that He and Makoto will both have children with the same woman
This happens in the 'bad ending' which implies that Yasuhiro may be hearing the future from all possible timelines, and that he is genuinely magic.

I think also in his lite novel built into Ultra Despair Girls none of his predictions are wrong either.

>>720512551
I always thought MC doing a kill and winning would be a kino final trial

>>720508997
This image reminded me that Kodaka was obsessed with lady VAs for DR protags. So glad he actually got a guy for Takumi in Hundred Line, this shit was annoying.

>>720512584
someone post the "fiction within fiction" graph please

>>720512257
>get dating spinoff
>die in the middle of the story from space corona

>>720512423
There wouldn't be much of a reason too. V3 doesn't need to be set in the main continuity, and even if it is, it's set in the far future.
But I wouldn't be surprised if they did so just to bring in the cast of V3 into the main Hope's Peak continuity.

Or maybe they'll do the opposite and bring the 1+2 cast into a version of the V3 world. Anything's possible.

>>720512561
Fuck, that's so stupid, but really funny. I think it'll turn the already retarded discussions even more retarded, but fucking hell I'd laugh.

2x2 doesn't ruin V3's ending and some people just have to accept it instead of whining.

>>720512423
>random naming that could mean anything
over 200%

>>720512767
shut the fuck up shoichi. kaede is the mastermind in 2x2

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Since people like to complain about bitch about every game here are unique things I like about each game.

DR1:
>nice, self-contained narrative that builds up to one final resolution and that resolution is really well done, plot and character threads come together for a very satisfying experience, you cant take away from these things even if later games may have refined them a bit, the first time always gets extra credit

SDR2:
>the final confrontation is really interesting, whereas in the first game Junko's offer to betray Naegi was never all that tempting, here you have two sides going at each other with great points, this time Junko created a real dilemma that has no apparent or easy solution until the plot kicks in
DRV3:
>unlike other games where most of the character interactions are left to free time events, meaning any one playthrough is never going to capture everything, here a lot more focus is on the relationships between Saihara, Kaito and Maki, meaning the bond between them feels a lot more genuine and the resulting payoffs when the character drama comes into play feels a lot more earned
>also the finale is by far the most brutal one, total ego death that the survivors try to escape with a collective suicide pact, that's real heavy shit

also, tenko is best girl

>>720511564
>>720511206
hypnosis anime was so fucking retarded, the only good thing about 3 was watching it weekly with /v/ and /a/

>>720512423
SC probably hates that the 10th anniversary of the franchise came and went with minimal interest, because it had been 'over' for years at that point, and Rain Code didn't exactly set the world on fire as a potential successor. If they can come up with a way to revive the series long-term, they'll grab it with both hands.
And I wish them luck, partly because I hope it'll also inspire Capcom to get AA off the back burner

>>720512883
>Since people like to complain about bitch about every game here
I like the series, they're super entertaining. Also godlike music. But if I were to tell someone "does the story make sense or is it well written" I would lie if I said "yes" lol.

it's fine to pretend 3 doesnt exist
so please stop talking about it

>>720513026
>ut if I were to tell someone "does the story make sense or is it well written" I would lie if I said "yes" lol.
you're weak

>>720513060
Just watch the stage play for Future Arc and pretend Despair Arc never happened, and that's unironically a decent fix.

>>720512932
Junko still groomed children during her breaktime into controlling a whole city and killing all the adult, if it can help you knowing she didn't need the hypnosis and just did it because it would be trully despair

>>720513060
>>720513170
I liked it.
Only issue with it is that the classroom didn't slowly despair out one by one after kuzuryu's sister died

>>720513060
This is the first DR thread I've enjoyed in awhile thanks to the schizos and their endless nonsense. I say keep talking about 3.
Anyway, Danganronpa's longevity is incredible. You can spend another 10 years thinking about the story and wanting to fuck the girls, and then another 10 more.
Are you reading this, Kodaka? We don't need thousands of endings. We don't need thousands of writers. We don't need whatever FMC dogshit Shuten Order was.
Just get the elite MANLY team together and prepare a real VN to take over the world again without any of that gameplay garbage.

There's so much shit that's so fucking stupid about the anime, but one of the things I will never forgive is making Chiaki a real person. You wanna talk about retcons? That's the biggest one and fucks up the second game's plot.

>>720502096
I'd be okay with this.
>>720502382
I expect her to die first. Danganronpa loves taking what you expect and then just axing it. 1 had the obvious love interest character be the first killer, 2 made (you) the mastermind kinda and did the Nagito Naegi red herring, v3 changed protagonists after the first case.

KEKdaka is crying

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>>720512883
I agree about DR2 having an actual dilemma which didn't really happen in 1 at all. I also think the way Junko is presented/performed in DR2 is MUCH better than in DR1, letting her just talk normally most of the time and slip into her dipshit personalities when it's appropriate is so much more entertaining and effective than how she was originally.

>>720513283
retard

I just hope they make Chiaki an interesting character this time. Feels like she did nothing until chapter5 except be a glorified trial advancer

please for the love of god let the new scenario retcon the DR3 anime's abysmal dogshit retcons

>>720513295
>Danganronpa loves taking what you expect and then just axing it
The only time they did that was with Rantarou and arguably Kaede.
Which was fucking horrible btw, memeverted expectations aside.

>>720513372
Impossible, unfortunately. That one... you can't retcon, and Kodaka likely won't allow it.

>>720513415
I just said 2 other times they did that.

>>720513283
I think Chiaki being a real person was a good idea. We got a reason why her AI version was, well, herself, and not some random gamer girl.

>>720513321
Fuck you, the whole point is that she was the traitor, created by Alter Ego (it's why she and Chihiro have the same birthday) and her student profile had to be faked in the yearbook.
>>720513347
If Hajime dies off and we don't have a complete retard for a main character like him, I'm sure she'd get more interesting development.
>>720513372
Fucking please, the game has the chance to do something really good.

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BTW if you faggots don't have a mega for 2x2 within 72 hours of it's release I'm going to kill you and then myself.

>>720513283
This is the type retard that hate V3 by the way

>>720513507
What if there's Denuvo?

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can't wait for the remastered hajimeme sprite

No Eito, no buy.
Nagito is old news.

>>720513534
nah I dislike v3's ending and I called him retarded

>>720513415
rentaro is a pure rehash of the ultimate imposter from 2
>guy full of mystery
>surely will be a big one for the whole story
>die first case

>>720512076
fuck off

>Hundred Lines writer
Expect half the cast to be turned into faggots and trannies

>>720513481
Because of Chihiro. The point is also that she's kind of the perfect girl and so there's irony in her not being real. It's a perfectly fine thing to be in the game and makes the reveal that one of the student profiles is faked because there's a traitor pretty neat.
>>720513534
I'm the game's biggest defender though.

they probably didn't want to remake the first one because of Chihiro

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>>720513673
>turned into
Where do you think you are?

>>720513634
I guess he the Ultimate Retard

>>720512415
They will make her a dyke. Remember her lines about boys? Even though it was obvious that she was a closet insecure pervert? But tumblr fanfiction is now canon. Fucking niggerlover kodaka.

>2026
Will /v/ be ravaged by ESL terror even then?
Will the illiterates and w*men disappear?
How will discourse really look like?
Will it be mostly bots and retards?

>>720513673
the only cast member that matters is Nagito and he's already a faggot.

>>720513894
False, Nagito fucks pussy.

>>720513846
Damn shame. We've already got retards like >>720513894 and there
>he's a faggot!
rhetoric, so I guess it's a loss.

>>720513653
Yeah and?
The games need MVP characters to be interesting. You think DR1 would be good if Kyouka and Byakuya died chapter 1 and instead we had Hifumi around? lmao

Killing the one that is obviously coded to be some massive deal just to blueball you and then even add salt to the wound with the necronomicon is just teasing readers for no reason.
The people who defend it are losers who enjoy getting spat in the face and humiliated, basically.

>Defending anything from Despair Arc
Shameful.

>>720496640
>is supposed to be a critique of franchise milking
Kodaka just thought the twist was cool he was never serious about ending the series, that's all players' headcanons when they felt like he was shaming them for playing his game

>>720513846
>/pol/tard
>Danganronpa fan
You get touched or something?

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Call the twist
>Culprit/Victim Hajime
>Mastermind Nanami
>Entire metaplot to make some statement about remakes and everyone in DR2 aren't the original people but are just remake actors/memory wiped (Mahiru has no freckles) because DR2 was the most popular and this is actually V4 or something
>"Big" event is a number of new characters being inserted into the story
>There's no big twist but it's just actual fanservice and they just say this was a prior simulation loop that went wrong

>>720512257
dr1 doesn't have any potential fmc characters though.

>>720514000
Fans shape the work and unfortunately the danganronpa fandom is full of fujos.

>>720514076
the OP song was good.

>>720513846
This reads like someone trying too hard to be racist uncle at the dinner table

Just heard about the new DR2 Remake. Actually hype, and I'm ready for Hopeman again. I've got mixed feelings though, since I feel DR1's cast is much more underused, whereas DR2's cast got a full-on anime sequel. I wanted to see what happens if Mukuro and Sayaka survive round 1.

It’s funny to me how disingenuous and hypocritical Kodaka is. In Danganronpa 1 and Danganronpa 2 he mocked fags with two characters, Chihiro who outright states that he hates being a feminine boy and wants to be manly, but Mondo kills him for it, saying it’s better for him to die, he will never be manly. And Teruteru in Danganronpa 2 who was a bisexual chef, so disgusting that he sexually harassed the entire cast, and when he died nobody felt sorry for him, everyone was secretly relieved. Only character to ever get this treatment.
Now to make banks over the woke craze (very late), Kodaka made two games now with faggots main leads, but to no avail, he’s still going bankrupt and Danganronpa is still famous.

>>720514150
Fair.

>>720514150
>the singers for both the op and end of future and despair are dead
sad

>>720514095
Nagito doesn't fumble his murder attempt in chapter 1 and succeeds
loses the trial
enjoy :)

I'm impressed it took this long for a shit stirrer to show up.

>>720514208
Takumi and Yuma aren't gay though?

>>720507934
>beta Akane
Sounds great, now I just need them to make her the player character.

>>720513564
This time the hacking will reach 4th wall levels never seen before and the game will start putting shit on your desktop. Denuvo is part of the plot too.

>>720510050
Weedman made many references to various manga and otaku culture, but the English localization erased that, so he feels pointless to you.

>>720514246
>Sung the Future OP
>Played Junko in the stage plays
>Voiced Kaede
It's a fucking tragedy, man.

>>720514208
>he hates being a feminine boy and wants to be manly, but Mondo kills him for it
would be so based

>>720514254
In a post-Eito world he isn't going to tank the entire momentum of the game unless the scenario is literally two hours long.
I want to believe that Danganronpa 2x2 is actually going to implement 100 Line's choice system

>>720513506
Hajime being retarded doesn't have anything to do with Chiaki being boring

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>new scenario
Will we finally find out what the fuck this fat fuck wanted to say?

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>>720496640
There was no good reason to end Dingdangronpa. People like it. It makes money for the devs. It's a win win.

>>720514208
Uh, cissy, Mondo killed him due to his toxic masculinity. He saw Chihiro as mentally stronger for wanting to move past his weaknesses.

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You can't trick me Kodaka, we have AI on our side now

>>720514420
stories have an end
dragging things out if you have no good ideas to continue is bad

Danganronpa as a concept is fine and has great potential. You just can't keep using the same formula over and over again

I wonder if there will be new trial minigames, and will ones from V3 be added

>>720514397
>100 Line's choice system
How does that work? Didn't play it

>>720509204
V3 is just MGSV, where the author didn’t want to continue the series but was forced so made up bullshit and broke the lore to anger fans.
The “it’s all a simulation” is no different to the “you’re big boss”, intentional twists to spite fans, because japs are too cowardly to say no to their bosses

>>720514397
>unless the scenario is literally two hours long.
>2x2hours
>4 hours story
bravo

>>720496640
>it's ending is supposed to be a critique of franchise milking
I can't believe it's 2025 and people still don't understand V3

>>720514632
It's more like MGS4 where Kojima basically said "You want more Solid Snake? Here he is. He's old and worn out, like this franchise."

>>720514550
I actually find it really interesting that they decided to build on the franchise by using the same formula and being aware of it. It's a very interesting direction for a franchise to go when it's aware of it and it's intentional, and I appreciate that. Of course it all culminated with the third game so to continuing to do so after that would be silly. I guess there's some kind of irony if the way they break out of repeating the formula is through a retread of a previous game. I think if the third case doesn't have a double murder, people will lose their shit.

>>720506924
The chatgpt is hilarious, because you can also see that character designs were made by ai, they’re a mesh mash of different danganronpa characters.

>>720514632
But the "it's all a simulation" twist was in the previous game...

>>720514652
steam page says the alt scenario will be just as long as the original