>series is meant to end with V3 and it's ending is supposed to be a critique of franchise milking>"We are gonna make Danganronpa 2"What
>>720496640*remake Danganronpa 2
>>720496640>could remake 1 which is older and needs sharper graphics for modern screens>could remake v3 which destroyed the franchise and would maybe make sense thematically>remakes 2 insteadliterally for what reason?
>>720496748Not a remake, hidden sequel.
>he actually thought Danganronpa was over
>>720496640>series is meant to [HEADCANON] and it's ending is [HEADCANON]uh huh
>>720496748Remaking the first game would only work if it becomes Distrust. The reason why remaking the second game works is because it's the only game where who dies and lives doesn't matter since the anime saves everyone anyway.
I think the new mode is written by Nintendo, which will be good in some ways but will never reach the peak of Nagito's case. Mahiru will make it to the end and Mikan will be the first victim to avoid having to write her. Still more excited for picrelated if chapter 2 ever happens.
>>720496748>DRIF shows they already have no qualms making a separate scenario for DR1, even if it was short and not canon to the main overall timeline/universe>A remake be a chance to do it for a full on new game.>DR2 is doing it first.
>>720498209You do realize this game is going to be on different platforms too, right?
>>720498209>I think the new mode is written by Nintendoyeah and then they release it on steam as well because that is what Nintendo is known for
>>720496748Same reason Alphadream skipped remaking Partners in Time for a Bowser's Inside Story remake.
It's a rerun
>>720496748because it's not a remake, it's literally just v4
>>720496640>a critique of franchise milkingIt's as meaningful as an AAA game saying that corporations are bad.
>>720496640It's a test. Spike Chunsoft would like nothing more than to say DR is formally back but Kodaka is burnt out on it. So, let a few potential replacement scenario writers see if they can crank out a decent AU scenario, and if it works, they have their writer(s) for a follow-up installment ready to go. If it doesn't work, hey, it was an AU anyway.My question is who's going to take over the reins to do JP Monokuma, giuven that both of his previous VAs have passed.
Oh, it's not being written by Kodaka according to X. He's only supervising as his friend comes up with something new and does the whole thing.That said, what's the point of this? Wouldn't it be better to devise an IF with completely new characters at least?...This isn't a pc98 game that some would like to see with a new coat of paint. It's not a game with any problems or issues or anything. I struggle to understand why Atlus is remaking Persona 4 as well, all over again, when P4G is alright.Seriously, why? Since it's a different writer, you won't even recreate the crack insanity of Kodaka.They're going to put in hours and hours for this, the artist will spend hours and hours meticulously drawing CGs, the musician will spend hours and hours remixing... why not take the force behind all that effort and exert it to new beginnings instead of a rehash? Fuck, man. Sure, I'll play it, but why? What's with the industry obstinately sticking to what's old? Not even sequels or spinoffs, but the same things iterated again over and over and over.
>>720499587>What's with the industry obstinately sticking to what's old? Not even sequels or spinoffs, but the same things iterated again over and over and over.>Sure, I'll play it
>>720496640It's called 2x2. Literally Danganronpa 4.
>>720499587>I struggle to understand why Atlus is remaking Persona 4 as well, all over again, when P4G is alright.Because they are desperate to procrastinate releasing persona 6 knowing they will never live up to the hype.
>>720499587Said friend wrote the worst route in Hundred Line.This is a dumb cashgrab demake, as usual.
>>720499319Kodaka keeps making Danganronpa clones, he just wants the Danganronpa money for himself, it's a shitty situation because Kodaka is literally nothing without Danganronpa
>>720499587>>720499974It's always money. It doesn't matter if it sounds like a dumb decision, if it makes profit they'll do it.
>>720499917Pfft, yeah right. What next? V3 was actually 53 or some shit?
>>720499587The modern internet has allowed games to have much longer lifespans than they would otherwise so it's easier to revive old franchises with remakes. DR2 is 13 years old so the teenagers and young adults who played it at release have aged out and we now have a new generation to resell games to. Development times for games have ballooned as well so everyone is playing it safe so that they don't spend most of a decade funding a flop. Stapling a new route that's basically a new game on top of a remake is an easier way to get it out of the door rather than an entirely original DR4
>>720500107i almost feel bad for the niggerhe basically had to sell his company to the chinks to fund projects desperately trying to prove he was more than just "the danganronpa author" and constantly failed on basically every single attempt to make something bigger than danganronpa then again after v3 i don't feel bad for it, he deserves every single second of this torture and then some
>>720500335>DR2 is 13 years old so the teenagers and young adults who played it at release have aged out and we now have a new generation to resell games toThe problem with this line of thinking is that they ported this and the rest of the mainline games to the platform less than four years ago.
>>720500619And companies like CH ported the nep trilogy to the switch twice, and also are about to port it twice to the PS4, what's your point?
>>720499587I'm afraid you're in the minority. Fan boys over X are squealing with joy, and that's all Kodaka's seeing, so he'll keep doing what he does. Add to that how people want to be 'part of the experience', and well, you've got a framework trapping people in this endless cycle of remakes.
>>720500619That does muddy the argument but I think people are more enticed by a fresh remake than they are of a port.
It is weird that they skipped 1.But this is a weird concept for a forth game.I don't think anyone expected that the next DR game would be a redux with the same characters from a previous cast.But, if you were to do a borrowed-cast-sequel, DR2 does fit the best. Trigger Happy Havoc, while having my personal favorite cast, had a really good set of survivors and a natural dwindling of the cast. Many of the deaths are super important to the actual over arcing mystery of the game, after all.But in 2, really the plot just happens without any of the characters doing anything. And it had the worst survivors with all of them barring Hajime and Fuyuhiko being nothing characters who at best had a handful of good jokes.
Mahiru in a micro bikini.Kodaka pls
>>72050051380% of his success is the Danganronpa artist and composer. Fucking dishonest kodaka
>>720500103he also wrote the best route in Shuten Order (Ministry of Health), which was coincidentally also a killing game.
>>720498659>for a Bowser's Inside Story remake.The one that flopped legendarily hard?
>>720501853Science route was way better.
>hajimeme and hopeman die chapter 1>chiaki is your new protagyfw?
>>720496640They will make Komaeda and Hajime gay in the scenario
>>720499587After the garbage that was Hundred Lines why would anyone want Kodaka to make more games? Retard
>>720502096As long as Chiaki survives this time, I'm ok with it.
>>720502373so you haven't even played his newest garbage called Shuten Order
>2x2 will feature new scenariosWhy are they making gay this time? Mahiru? I sure as hell love new woke Japan.
>>720496640They're going to make a meta statement about remakes and say that they're actually all memory wiped actors
>>720499780not that guy, but i'll also play it. I just won't pay for it
>>720500107He didn’t even write all of Hundred Lines, but hired different writers to make different routes, dude wants his own Spike Chunsoft it’s pathetic lol.I would be empathetic if he actually loves the series like Kojima and Metal Gear, but he actually hates it and wants to ruin its legacy with more homosexuality. He can’t accept the fact that he will forever be known as the Danganronpa Guy
>>720501131>Mahiru not in virgin tier>Peko not in one sexual partner tier despite her loyalty to Fuyuhiko
>>720496640v3 was trash
>>720501131Danganronpa 1 deserved the new scenario as the cast is better with the best chemistry, but lots of the cases were too easy to figure out
>>720502456There’s a yuri ship in the ending so I never bothered with it. It’s sad that Tumbler troon forever ruined the series and got into Kodaka’s head.
>>720503248I think the difference is that DR2 is easier to rewrite into new scenarios since they were changing things on the fly the first time around - i.e. Nagito was supposed to exit in Chapter 1 originally, and Fuyuhiko got swapped out for Hiyoko in Chapter 3 so that he wasn't an exact parallel of Kiyotaka's personality-shift-to-instant-death from the first game
>>720497956Shit, am I gonna have to finish watching that stupid anime to understand the lore of 2x2
>>720500335I "played" DR2 through watching a fucking somethingawful playthrough (I don't browse there but this was a grim time for translated media) and going to literal chinese video sites to see what happens. This time I won't be spoiled since I got to play DR1 and DRV3 when they came out
2nd game was picked because they're attempting to work around V3's ending by retroactively establishing its content as the product of a programmatic error rooted in an issue gone wrong from 2's cyberized, virtual, dreamscape setting. In other words, they're trying to say V3 was itself isolated from every other Danganronpa rather than a part of its continuum and was itself purely fictional, but its characters attained enough sentience to try and break past their programmatic mold. Naturally, they'll direct the story thataway to operate in congruence with the whole AI thing. That's the 'in' thing today, after all. Of that, there can be no doubt.It's also 2x2 because they're merging the content of 1. THH2. SDR23. UDG4. V3all into one game. Again, this is possible only because DR2 transpires within a cyberized world.The characters who'll die and the characters who'll live will all be inverted from its initial content, and the final boss will not be Junko, but will instead be the whole cast of Danganronpa across each game. Those dying and those surviving won't be characters anymore as much the verses through which their life is. Basically, worlds will be fighting. Danganronpa will be pitted against Danganronpa.With all that said, given that the fanbase (majority) is no longer lunatic men who like tricks, traps, sexy women, romance, confronting wills, kino, debators, and a fight against all, Komatsuzaki Rui's art will be spent in service of drawing worthless CGs of male characters and naturally the scenario will be tainted with shit since Kodaka, under illusion X, mistakenly thinks the cosplayer e-whores give a fuck about his series beyond extracting pointers to attire in order to best milk retards, or that the disabled women incapable of interacting with a story beyond saying 'crazy! it was crazy!' and wanting to read fanfiction of men fucking men are ''people'' worth catering to. Add to that the shit state of the world, and any good you get will be a miracle.
>>720503980This is schizoprehnic enough to make me take it as canon even if the actual game comes out and proves it wrong.It's canon in my heart.
>>720501131Ultimately it'll depend on how long the new content is. remaking the original 2 feels more like a bonus given the trilogy is easily playable on every current console and PC (hell people already compared the lines and it seems to be using the same script as the original so it's not like it got retranslated)If this is as long as DR 2 and for all intents and purposes DR 4 I think people will look past at the completely unnecessary remake, if the new content sucks then at least you can replay DR2 with a fancier coat of paint.
>>720503796Considering I basically just spoiled it for you, not really. It's shit anyway, so you don't lose anything by not watching it. If there's anything you need explaining from the anime, I'm happy to do so.
>>720503980fucking kek
>>720504202I wouldn't call the shitty live 2d animations a "fancier coat of paint"
>>720503710Makes sense. Hiyoko’d death felt like a collateral damage, very underused character. At best she deserved her own case.
>>720496748>game name is danganronpa 2x2 >hurrrr why are they remaking 2>it's danganronpa 4 and the new scenario is gonna be ass
>>720503980V3 means 53. You can ignore it and actually make the third part just fine.
>>720499587show me the lewdest hundred line CG so I can see whether 2x2 will have fanservice or not
>>720499319>My question is who's going to take over the reins to do JP MonokumaDetective Conanwho also voices Hajimehttps://youtu.be/nBmFJXQe81w?si=oiauT-SZjOmTe4vw&t=69https://youtu.be/CVWI5laS1fc?si=vv0jGlvRTqWtGlc_&t=46
>>720506681https://files.catbox.moe/tsqiho.png
>>720502997He is just lazy now>No courts>No puzzles >Just hire chatgpt/writers It's what Mikami did with Tango, TEW wasn't made for him it was made by some japanese woman, he just stamped his name on it and as soon as he saw TEW wouldn't outsell RE he abandoned the team KEKKamiya also abandoned PG and is trying to get on DMC now
>>720496748I legit think its DR4.They're pulling a Higurashi Gou
>>720506809SEXOOOOOOOO
>>720506369They did make the third partIt had our fucking BOY JUZO
>>720496748>>could remake v3 which destroyed the franchise and would maybe make sense thematicallyDR3(canon btw) still exists
I want twogami to sit on my face
>>720496748>1 which is older and needs sharper graphics for modern screens>v3 which destroyed the franchise
>>720507184They should make dr3 a fanfic. That said imagine if dr3 characters appear
>>720506723Ah, thanks.Initial impression is the delivery is a bit too...perky, I guess. But I'm willing to keep an open mind.
>>720496640>my creation was so good>im such a genius man we reached 53 game>people like it so hard we got release after release to the point psychopath turned it into reality gameshow on tvthat what i understood from the ending.Also the cosplayer girl was full of shit since first chapter with her "look i can't cosplay real thing because i get pink skin" implying ultimate cosplayer couldn't cosplay a pink version of any character
Akane's the character to watch out for. Yes I know, fucking Akane but no really they might be incorporating her beta character in this
>>720502010Yes, because it was a total cashgrab on a dead platform. Same deal here, minus the dead platform part.
>>720507934we will get the kino V3 crossover as final arc, because the reality show is such a big scene other chanel are doing rival show and since they were bad at it, their plan is to only use fan service and reuse already good character and story from previous popular danganronpa
>>720508208so it'll literally be >>720503980?
>>720502382Happy ending with Chiaki is a must, parting ending shit was the worst part of 2
>>720508208Nah they're not going to do anything quite like that because they've already done it. It'll be something that gets everyone upset again
>>720496748>destroyed the franchiseBrainlet filtered.
>>720508504alternate universe is pure fan service and it will be the only way to have anything to tell as the last chapter.but i could accept simulation glitching and getting wacky shit like >>720507934But we will see what they are cooking with Izuruand at the end
>>720496640I don’t mind it as long as they do some fun scenarios, if it’s just a bait and switch to actually being a V3 sequel then it’ll be kinda boring.But we’re getting more Chiaki so who gives a fuck calling it she gets killed straight away
Why does Gonta talk like a caveman in the english version of Danganronpa V3?
inb4 Chiaki and Nagito double kill right off the bat to piss off fans even more
>>720507690I might be wrong but it really sounds like Conan but perkierespecially in the 2nd youtube link a little before the timestamp
>>720508946That would be hilarious though. Get those shitters out of the way ASAP so the rest of the cast can shine.
>>720508754Cause NISA is garbage.Also did anyone here play the latest Kodakaslop Shuten Order? How is it?
>>720508748>Be the ultimate gamer>reveal she was a AI and so is killed as a traitor>later reveal she was part of the class>the only one that died>announce remake + bonus>finaly more Nanami content and hope >get killed first chapterI would unironically despair
>Tsumugi controls everything. >Even your thoughts. >Can't make Rantaro step one foot to the left>Can't control Oma>Executing the wrong person isn't a problem but dying before getting executed is. >Not knowing the victim is also an issue for some reason. Even with all the previous fuck ups. >The whole prologue. So does everyone watch this game or not? >The unexplained helmets. >The unexplained Team Dangan logo on the dome>Unexplained cospox>Unexplained necronomicon. >Unexplained construction. Why do they need to build the set if there were 53 seasons? V3 makes no fucking sense.
Any girls here who like him? I cant be the only one...
>>720509127I'd blame Kodaka more than NISA. Kodaka refuses intentionally picks the cheapest and shittiest localizers in order to save money. He did the same with Hundred Line and Shuten Order
>>720509127worse than Rain Code and Hundred Lines
>>720496748>v3 which destroyed the canonV3 isn't even in the canon, plus DR3 already did that.
>>720509141bravo kodaka
>>720509204uhhhhhh
>>720509204>Unexplained necronomicon.It's also a simulation
>>720497956Distrust would be incredible to get now but with the direction they took the franchise after 1 I really dont think we'll ever see anything more grounded like that1 is still my favorite by a mile for being the closest thing to it in tone, even if it did end up tremendously different
>>720509204Tsumugi was literally bullshitting during the last trial. It's why she has her "flawless copy" line right at the end. The game is intentionally nonsensical so you can take whatever you want away from it at the end. The ambiguity is what makes it divisive.
>>720509412You're wrong.V3 is and isn't in the canon such that part of it takes place in the world of Danganronpa, and part does not. Just watch the anime, and you'll understand.
>>720509141Unless they completely throw out what was already established by the main story about her, she literally can't get a happy ending.Even her Island Mode ending is basically just asking Hajime not to forget her after he and the others inevitably leave the simulation.
>>720509716Sounds like a great way to make redditor retards clap at meta writing just to retcon it years later when you need to shit out sequels am I right
>>720509043And this is literally only because Makoto miraculously survives his execution (which I have no idea how you can consider that "stronger writing", but I'll get back to that in a second) and Junko realizes she can't bullshit her way out of anything, thus creating her ultimatum. Makoto was still alive and he would've denied being involved in any murder, since Junko is a psychopath and has fun with this, so that's why she creates the ultimatum she does. Kaede on the other hand doesn't get that benefit, because she literally thinks she's the killer, it was her plan, and it went exactly how she expected it to. Tsumugi can hold on to her bullshit because there is nothing contradicting it and there's no reason to assume anything does.>>720509204>She can't consciously control people, just implants personalities, thus some things are left up to luck>Unironically wrote Kokichi to be too smart, hastily and sloppily tries to get rid of him leading to her downfall>Executing the wrong person isn't a problem, because the people watching assume that person is the killer especially when the fucking person themselves thinks so, while an execution gone wrong can hampers the audience enjoyment/satisfaction of seeing their gory reward at the end of a trial>Not knowing the victim would lead to a very unsatisfying conclusion for the audience, but also I'm pretty sure Monokuma admits that he doesn't give a shit and will execute someone anyway>Open-ended, we can speculate this, it's fun for theorizing >Helmets are explained as part of the fake plot to wipe the Ultimates' memories of their talents so they blend in better or something >Team Dangan logo is because Team Dangan owns the property (or maybe that's just what Tsumugi wants you to think, up to you)>Cospox literally does not fucking matter>Red herring motive, probably would've gotten some extra to get hit by a flashback light and have them be the "revived" person>This one I genuinely have no explanation for
>>720496748>could remake 1 which is oldernigger, they're both psp VNs, there is no age disparity between them
>>720501131Put them all into Oh No given the grand twist of the game.
>>720503098There's never any indication that they had sex, though. Given how Fuyuhiko talks about Peko in chapter 2, I think they never even kissed before.>>720503248But with DR1 the cast that survives is practically perfect, and most of those who die actually have plot-important reasons to die. So it's harder to revamp that. Plus DR1 has a really good overaching story until the very end, so there isn't a great reason to do a weird what-if.
>>720509204Tsumugi didn't control shit, she was was shit wanabee junko fangirl.All she could do is input false memory in people brain using lamp, so everything you see from it is bullshit (Only angie could understand this, not even the ending hater did lol)>Unexplained necronomiconActualy it's explained with the Kaede sister in the name list, she was actualy going to come back using said lamp on her to get Kaede 2.0>Unexplained cospoxis this the corona virus planet edition ? for me it could mean there is indeed world problem and Tsumigi did indeed trap them for real and took the chance to be Junko her favorite cosplay character
>>720509906>Red herring motive, probably would've gotten some extra to get hit by a flashback light and have them be the "revived" personSo they can do flawless facial surgery now too?
>>720510050what did weedman and brown slut survive for
>getting to listen to him talk about his shit all over againGOTY>>720509204>Tsumugi controls everything.She has an influence but does not control everything.>Even your thoughts.False.>Can't make Rantaro step one foot to the leftYes.>Can't control OmaYes.>Executing the wrong person isn't a problem but dying before getting executed is.A different execution is still exciting to the audience, I cut short execution is not.>Not knowing the victim is also an issue for some reason. Even with all the previous fuck ups.Screws with their ability to make the show a coherent plot for the audience.>The whole prologue. So does everyone watch this game or not?Up to interpretation.>The unexplained helmets.The mindwashing ones at the beginning? It's a fake memory to distract from what the real memory altering tool is.>The unexplained Team Dangan logo on the domeDanganronpa is made by Team Dangan.>Unexplained cospoxThis one actually is kinda contradictory. >Unexplained necronomicon.Kaede's twin sister.>Unexplained construction. Why do they need to build the set if there were 53 seasons?Every season has a new location.
>>720510106Considering shit like flashback lights exist, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised at all if they can. Was that supposed to be some kind of "gotcha"?
>>720503796you don't really, it all should make sense when you understand how broken being the ultimate despair mean, and the whole simulation not being mean to fry brain even with the worst virus possible
>>720509779Do you mean DR3? This is the first I've heard of anything like that, not sure if I just missed something. As far as I'm aware, V3 takes place entirely outside of DR 1-3, but that DR exists inside V3's universe as a fictional piece of media.
>>720509884The thing is that it's so ambiguous that you can't even really retcon it. The end of the game literally has Shuichi saying "maybe danganronpa was real". So no matter what you think the truth is you're right because there really isn't an answer. Not trying to defend it btw. Leaving an ending open to interpretation can be done well, but I don't think V3 does that.
>>720509793i just want more Chiaki content without the despair part
>>720509204>>720509906Oh, also, Tsumugi not being able to control people fully also extends to Angie, considering she broke the flashback light, fucking up part of Tsumugi's plans for that chapter.>>720510304Exactly this, people who think there was any kind of retcon are stupid.
>Tsumugi is a fictional character that Mastermind Tsumugi was playing>One of this character's traits is that she has cospox >Suddenly people now argue about whether this is important even though this very well could be just a trait that the fictional character "Tsumugi" has and not the real oneI genuinely don't know why people were so hung up on this.
could they do a Hajime dies and protag switch like v3? I don't know if anyone could take up the new role though. Maybe if this was thh I could see Sayaka or Kyoko be the new protag.
V3 isn't canon to the hope's peak saga, retards
>>720510662Mahiru or Nagito.
>>720510325The sad thing is cospox will be used as the justification for "actually it was really real and Tsumugi lied about it being fiction" and everybody will clap.People who pretend right now that the ending was 300 iq for doing the meta thing will in the future pretend they always knew it actually wasn't fiction.
>>720510662Not at the start because that would just be rehashing V3.Maybe as the victim of Chapter 5. They're gonna have to do some crazy shit with that chapter if they want to match the OG.
>>720510662We literally play someone else in SDR2 for one section
>>720496640I hate this series because there are no h-scenes.
>>720510662>I don't know if anyone could take up the new role thoughMY FUCKING HEROdisguised as Hajime
>>720496640>series is meant to end with V3 and it's ending is supposed to be a critique of franchise milkingYeah and all the fans hated it. funnny
Love him
>>720510707it could be with a single change and a good writing.But ending hater will never accept it and i doubt the fan would even understand it
>>720510986What change?
>>720510325I think whether it's fiction or not doesn't really matter. The game's universe could just be an alternate reality to ours where Danganronpa is super popular, or real killing games could be an underground thing, or maybe the events of the Hope's Peak saga were real and then video games based on them were created (ala how we create games based on real historical events) that got wildly popular leading to real death games. It's all fun to speculate, but I don't think it matters in the end. What matters is that Shuichi, Maki and Himiko escaped and get to live real lives outside of the fucked up situation they were in. The game's setting is so disconnected from the Hope's Peak saga that it genuinely doesn't matter if they confirm one thing or another, because it should have no bearing on the third game. Shit like >>720510730 is stupid, because why would it being real have any relevancy to Shuichi's story? All it is is extra lore at most. The story doesn't gain anything from it, like I said, it's just a fun thing to speculate about.
I don't think she's gonna make it...
>>720496640>saihara ends danganronpa, no more killing games>team danganronpa goes back and remakes/reimagines 2 insteadBTFO
>>720510879>hajime suddenly becomes fat as shit>everyone's confused but accepts it since he's such a good imposterGOTY material
>>720510730that exactly what i undestood from the whole final trial, and the only counterpoint is Kibo 4channer comment, but first danganronpa clearly showed you could just brodcast killing game and they can't stop you, so.
>>720510304It's the opposite. V3 exists in DR as fictional media as evident through Danganronpa 2.5, which, as you'll see, will heavily influence DR2X2. As for how, well, that's already been told in the thread.
>>720511104To be fair, you couldn't stop it because the whole world was undergoing basically an apocalypse.
>>720503796The anime totally destroys the entire lore. Suposedly the world entered into despair after watching some girl die in a shitty squid game broadcast. I can watch way more despair inducing snuff shit than that crap.
>>720511152>as evident through Danganronpa 2.5The hell are you talking about?
>>720511040Oh don't worry lol they will make sure both the Kibougamine story is real AND v3 is part of it, you can be certain of that.Tears will be delicious.
>>720511152I think this is the most schizophrenic post in the thread, kek.>>720511237There was an OVA for the anime that shows what Nagito had to go through to wake up from being comatose in the simulation.
>>720511247I mean, again, I don't give a shit either way. But why would that affect anything at all? I'd only care if it meant that somehow Shuichi shows up in the second game, because that'd be really fucking stupid. However with the existence of all the other Danganronpa titles up to the fifty third, it's impossible for the Hope's Peak Saga to have any bearing by that point even if it is real. Again, it's just lore then. A neat "fun fact" rather than anything significant, so I don't exactly know why there'd be any tears about it.
>>720511072>you don't even know you were playing the impostor until the final trial, except for very subtle clues that aren't spelled outKINO
>>720510720it should be Mahiru so we can have an fmc and romance all the guys instead. Maybe even a Woman's Nut CG
>>720510209Aoi is one of the best characters in the game. She's both the straight (wo)man and emotional heart. She feels the impact of the loss of the characters, and the stress of the situation more than any other character.Yasuhiro is really underrated as comedic relief. If you replay DR1 he has some of the funniest lines rather consistently.He also serves the narrative purpose of allowing the characters to still go over some obvious discoveries in the class trials without making anyone else look like an idiot.He also is a more complicated character when you dig into him.Something interesting about DR 1 is how every character, despite being pretty simple and not over-written, still feel like complete people with hidden depths and multifaceted-ness.
>>720511206To be fair, what caused the world to start going to shit was always the mass suicide of the reserve course. Chiaki's death video was only for her class and also it was combined with a hypnosis video, to plunge them into despair, that was the really stupid part.
>>720511152>meta game about the game being reality and continuing story from a fictional game>turn out it was a fiction inside the danganronpa real world>even explain the reuse of first danganronpa crime case photo since Junko did broadcast it to everyone to useabsolute cinema
>>720511551As long as it's not fujo or yuri shit, sure. Throw the yumejos a bone. Nagito and Mahiru are underrated as a ship.
>>720510662Eh, the cast of DR2 are mostly so exaggerated and cartoony that very few of them would work as a player character.I guess you could do Chiaki or Mahiru. Kinda. Sonia could be interesting as a protag. Maybe the ultimate imposter.
>>720511560so he exists for 80 iq loser morons with garbage humor who don't understand the trials got it
>>720507432Do you want to die?Because that's how you fucking die.
>>720509204I'm gonna be honest, I was writing a reply to this but all of the points ended up boiling down to "you're kind of stupid huh"I don't know how you sat through 100 hours of murder mystery novels before this if you can't put simple things together
>>720511560Yasuhiro never got any prediction wrong and it's hilarious considering he the ultimate fortune teller or whatever
>>720511880It's okay, many people replied to him explaining it.
I wonder if the twist could be that it's 212, and that it's an in-universe remaster or remake of 2.Mostly because of v3, and how it was supposed to be terrible with the Monokubs and Keebo.
>>720511736No.The trials need to go over all the evidence you learn in the investigation. Otherwise the game can't punish you for not paying attention, and any attention spent learning the basic details would be made redundant since it wouldn't be gone over.Yasuhiro gives, sometimes, a narrative reason to explain things which eventually become obvious. He serves a very useful gameplay role.Plus, he's also a funny and interesting character only found annoying by autists who take this comedy game too seriously.
>>720511667Only thing that upsets me with this is that clearly it would be done as a way to beg for money. It's clearly backpedalling on v3 as a desperate measure.But it would fix v3's garbage and save the franchise so I'd be fine with it. They'll pretend it was always the plan though so it would be annoying
The Ultimate Imposter isn't going to die in 2x2, and his, or rather I should say her, true identity will be revealed as the real Tsumugi whose own identity, as you might've experienced in V3, was but a camouflage a la cosplay by way of the fictitious character 'Tsumugi'. We'll finally see the real Tsumugi, one absent of any cosplay and, consequently, see the imposter outside her rouse, for they're one and the same. The ultimate imposter IS the ultimate cosplayer, because in so cosplaying exceptionally well, she succeeds IN mimicking whosoever she wants, and all of V3 is a cyberized error subsequent to HER actual death that manifested due to not recognizing who, precisely, was killed >>720503980Gentlemen and gentlemen, there you have it.
>>720511913The whole gag of him being right only 20-30% of the time is one of my favorite jokes from any game.My favorite joke from any game, of course, is the random hamburger-abduction story Yasuhiro tells for no reason in chapter 4. Laugh out loud every fucking time.
>>720511913>Yasuhiro never got any prediction wrongelaborate
>>720509204>CospoxIt's not an issue of what it is, but why it is there and what it means. This is meant to be taken as preemptive, objective "her super cosplay powers don't factor into the cases". Taken as-is, each witnessed act would have to be taken through a "but what if it was her pretending", and no statement would deny it, either from her (lie) or the bears (suspicion).
>>720512087the anon above did, he actualy explain how 20-30% of his prediction are right and the gag is already funny, then you finish the game and realize 20% of his bulshit was right somehow, lmao
>>720511551I only want to date Hajime or Nagito. Fmc with dr1 or v3 boys would work better
>>720511551That would fit with Mahiru canonically being a closet pervert and trying to get Hajime's shirt off
So, do you think they're gonna retcon V3's ending somehow with DR2X2?
>>720512423But why? The two have nothing to do with each other.
>>720512423100%
fuck fmc. Gimme a male mc who ends up killing someone and gets away with it, but then proceeds to kill himself later anyway.
>>720511480>Final chapter happens>Instead of makoto showing up>It's shuichiKeks will be had.
>>720512423I want every new Danganronpa entry to grossly retcon the previous entries in an escalating level of hackery
>>720512423Who the fuck knows? The 2x2 in the title implies that it's going to be more absolute hackest shit ever. I'm ready.
>>720512087Yashiro makes two main predictions throughout the game.>1 (in chapter 4) that there'll be no more murders.This is correct. After this there are only suicides >2 (in his free time events) that He and Makoto will both have children with the same womanThis happens in the 'bad ending' which implies that Yasuhiro may be hearing the future from all possible timelines, and that he is genuinely magic.I think also in his lite novel built into Ultra Despair Girls none of his predictions are wrong either.
>>720512551I always thought MC doing a kill and winning would be a kino final trial
>>720508997This image reminded me that Kodaka was obsessed with lady VAs for DR protags. So glad he actually got a guy for Takumi in Hundred Line, this shit was annoying.
>>720512584someone post the "fiction within fiction" graph please
>>720512257>get dating spinoff>die in the middle of the story from space corona
>>720512423There wouldn't be much of a reason too. V3 doesn't need to be set in the main continuity, and even if it is, it's set in the far future.But I wouldn't be surprised if they did so just to bring in the cast of V3 into the main Hope's Peak continuity.Or maybe they'll do the opposite and bring the 1+2 cast into a version of the V3 world. Anything's possible.
>>720512561Fuck, that's so stupid, but really funny. I think it'll turn the already retarded discussions even more retarded, but fucking hell I'd laugh.
2x2 doesn't ruin V3's ending and some people just have to accept it instead of whining.
>>720512423>random naming that could mean anythingover 200%
>>720512767shut the fuck up shoichi. kaede is the mastermind in 2x2
Since people like to complain about bitch about every game here are unique things I like about each game.DR1:>nice, self-contained narrative that builds up to one final resolution and that resolution is really well done, plot and character threads come together for a very satisfying experience, you cant take away from these things even if later games may have refined them a bit, the first time always gets extra creditSDR2:>the final confrontation is really interesting, whereas in the first game Junko's offer to betray Naegi was never all that tempting, here you have two sides going at each other with great points, this time Junko created a real dilemma that has no apparent or easy solution until the plot kicks inDRV3:>unlike other games where most of the character interactions are left to free time events, meaning any one playthrough is never going to capture everything, here a lot more focus is on the relationships between Saihara, Kaito and Maki, meaning the bond between them feels a lot more genuine and the resulting payoffs when the character drama comes into play feels a lot more earned>also the finale is by far the most brutal one, total ego death that the survivors try to escape with a collective suicide pact, that's real heavy shitalso, tenko is best girl
>>720511564>>720511206hypnosis anime was so fucking retarded, the only good thing about 3 was watching it weekly with /v/ and /a/
>>720512423SC probably hates that the 10th anniversary of the franchise came and went with minimal interest, because it had been 'over' for years at that point, and Rain Code didn't exactly set the world on fire as a potential successor. If they can come up with a way to revive the series long-term, they'll grab it with both hands.And I wish them luck, partly because I hope it'll also inspire Capcom to get AA off the back burner
>>720512883>Since people like to complain about bitch about every game hereI like the series, they're super entertaining. Also godlike music. But if I were to tell someone "does the story make sense or is it well written" I would lie if I said "yes" lol.
it's fine to pretend 3 doesnt existso please stop talking about it
>>720513026>ut if I were to tell someone "does the story make sense or is it well written" I would lie if I said "yes" lol.you're weak
>>720513060Just watch the stage play for Future Arc and pretend Despair Arc never happened, and that's unironically a decent fix.
>>720512932Junko still groomed children during her breaktime into controlling a whole city and killing all the adult, if it can help you knowing she didn't need the hypnosis and just did it because it would be trully despair
>>720513060>>720513170I liked it.Only issue with it is that the classroom didn't slowly despair out one by one after kuzuryu's sister died
>>720513060This is the first DR thread I've enjoyed in awhile thanks to the schizos and their endless nonsense. I say keep talking about 3.Anyway, Danganronpa's longevity is incredible. You can spend another 10 years thinking about the story and wanting to fuck the girls, and then another 10 more.Are you reading this, Kodaka? We don't need thousands of endings. We don't need thousands of writers. We don't need whatever FMC dogshit Shuten Order was. Just get the elite MANLY team together and prepare a real VN to take over the world again without any of that gameplay garbage.
There's so much shit that's so fucking stupid about the anime, but one of the things I will never forgive is making Chiaki a real person. You wanna talk about retcons? That's the biggest one and fucks up the second game's plot.
>>720502096I'd be okay with this.>>720502382I expect her to die first. Danganronpa loves taking what you expect and then just axing it. 1 had the obvious love interest character be the first killer, 2 made (you) the mastermind kinda and did the Nagito Naegi red herring, v3 changed protagonists after the first case.
KEKdaka is crying
>>720512883I agree about DR2 having an actual dilemma which didn't really happen in 1 at all. I also think the way Junko is presented/performed in DR2 is MUCH better than in DR1, letting her just talk normally most of the time and slip into her dipshit personalities when it's appropriate is so much more entertaining and effective than how she was originally.
>>720513283retard
I just hope they make Chiaki an interesting character this time. Feels like she did nothing until chapter5 except be a glorified trial advancer
please for the love of god let the new scenario retcon the DR3 anime's abysmal dogshit retcons
>>720513295>Danganronpa loves taking what you expect and then just axing itThe only time they did that was with Rantarou and arguably Kaede.Which was fucking horrible btw, memeverted expectations aside.
>>720513372Impossible, unfortunately. That one... you can't retcon, and Kodaka likely won't allow it.
>>720513415I just said 2 other times they did that.
>>720513283I think Chiaki being a real person was a good idea. We got a reason why her AI version was, well, herself, and not some random gamer girl.
>>720513321Fuck you, the whole point is that she was the traitor, created by Alter Ego (it's why she and Chihiro have the same birthday) and her student profile had to be faked in the yearbook. >>720513347If Hajime dies off and we don't have a complete retard for a main character like him, I'm sure she'd get more interesting development.>>720513372Fucking please, the game has the chance to do something really good.
BTW if you faggots don't have a mega for 2x2 within 72 hours of it's release I'm going to kill you and then myself.
>>720513283This is the type retard that hate V3 by the way
>>720513507What if there's Denuvo?
can't wait for the remastered hajimeme sprite
No Eito, no buy.Nagito is old news.
>>720513534nah I dislike v3's ending and I called him retarded
>>720513415rentaro is a pure rehash of the ultimate imposter from 2>guy full of mystery >surely will be a big one for the whole story>die first case
>>720512076fuck off
>Hundred Lines writerExpect half the cast to be turned into faggots and trannies
>>720513481Because of Chihiro. The point is also that she's kind of the perfect girl and so there's irony in her not being real. It's a perfectly fine thing to be in the game and makes the reveal that one of the student profiles is faked because there's a traitor pretty neat.>>720513534I'm the game's biggest defender though.
they probably didn't want to remake the first one because of Chihiro
>>720513673>turned intoWhere do you think you are?
>>720513634I guess he the Ultimate Retard
>>720512415They will make her a dyke. Remember her lines about boys? Even though it was obvious that she was a closet insecure pervert? But tumblr fanfiction is now canon. Fucking niggerlover kodaka.
>2026Will /v/ be ravaged by ESL terror even then?Will the illiterates and w*men disappear?How will discourse really look like?Will it be mostly bots and retards?
>>720513673the only cast member that matters is Nagito and he's already a faggot.
>>720513894False, Nagito fucks pussy.
>>720513846Damn shame. We've already got retards like >>720513894 and there>he's a faggot!rhetoric, so I guess it's a loss.
>>720513653Yeah and?The games need MVP characters to be interesting. You think DR1 would be good if Kyouka and Byakuya died chapter 1 and instead we had Hifumi around? lmaoKilling the one that is obviously coded to be some massive deal just to blueball you and then even add salt to the wound with the necronomicon is just teasing readers for no reason.The people who defend it are losers who enjoy getting spat in the face and humiliated, basically.
>Defending anything from Despair ArcShameful.
>>720496640>is supposed to be a critique of franchise milkingKodaka just thought the twist was cool he was never serious about ending the series, that's all players' headcanons when they felt like he was shaming them for playing his game
>>720513846>/pol/tard>Danganronpa fanYou get touched or something?
Call the twist>Culprit/Victim Hajime>Mastermind Nanami>Entire metaplot to make some statement about remakes and everyone in DR2 aren't the original people but are just remake actors/memory wiped (Mahiru has no freckles) because DR2 was the most popular and this is actually V4 or something>"Big" event is a number of new characters being inserted into the story>There's no big twist but it's just actual fanservice and they just say this was a prior simulation loop that went wrong
>>720512257dr1 doesn't have any potential fmc characters though.
>>720514000Fans shape the work and unfortunately the danganronpa fandom is full of fujos.
>>720514076the OP song was good.
>>720513846This reads like someone trying too hard to be racist uncle at the dinner table
Just heard about the new DR2 Remake. Actually hype, and I'm ready for Hopeman again. I've got mixed feelings though, since I feel DR1's cast is much more underused, whereas DR2's cast got a full-on anime sequel. I wanted to see what happens if Mukuro and Sayaka survive round 1.
It’s funny to me how disingenuous and hypocritical Kodaka is. In Danganronpa 1 and Danganronpa 2 he mocked fags with two characters, Chihiro who outright states that he hates being a feminine boy and wants to be manly, but Mondo kills him for it, saying it’s better for him to die, he will never be manly. And Teruteru in Danganronpa 2 who was a bisexual chef, so disgusting that he sexually harassed the entire cast, and when he died nobody felt sorry for him, everyone was secretly relieved. Only character to ever get this treatment.Now to make banks over the woke craze (very late), Kodaka made two games now with faggots main leads, but to no avail, he’s still going bankrupt and Danganronpa is still famous.
>>720514150Fair.
>>720514150>the singers for both the op and end of future and despair are deadsad
>>720514095Nagito doesn't fumble his murder attempt in chapter 1 and succeedsloses the trial enjoy :)
I'm impressed it took this long for a shit stirrer to show up.
>>720514208Takumi and Yuma aren't gay though?
>>720507934>beta AkaneSounds great, now I just need them to make her the player character.
>>720513564This time the hacking will reach 4th wall levels never seen before and the game will start putting shit on your desktop. Denuvo is part of the plot too.
>>720510050Weedman made many references to various manga and otaku culture, but the English localization erased that, so he feels pointless to you.
>>720514246>Sung the Future OP>Played Junko in the stage plays>Voiced KaedeIt's a fucking tragedy, man.
>>720514208>he hates being a feminine boy and wants to be manly, but Mondo kills him for itwould be so based
>>720514254In a post-Eito world he isn't going to tank the entire momentum of the game unless the scenario is literally two hours long.I want to believe that Danganronpa 2x2 is actually going to implement 100 Line's choice system
>>720513506Hajime being retarded doesn't have anything to do with Chiaki being boring
>new scenarioWill we finally find out what the fuck this fat fuck wanted to say?
>>720496640There was no good reason to end Dingdangronpa. People like it. It makes money for the devs. It's a win win.
>>720514208Uh, cissy, Mondo killed him due to his toxic masculinity. He saw Chihiro as mentally stronger for wanting to move past his weaknesses.
You can't trick me Kodaka, we have AI on our side now
>>720514420stories have an enddragging things out if you have no good ideas to continue is bad
Danganronpa as a concept is fine and has great potential. You just can't keep using the same formula over and over again
I wonder if there will be new trial minigames, and will ones from V3 be added
>>720514397>100 Line's choice systemHow does that work? Didn't play it
>>720509204V3 is just MGSV, where the author didn’t want to continue the series but was forced so made up bullshit and broke the lore to anger fans.The “it’s all a simulation” is no different to the “you’re big boss”, intentional twists to spite fans, because japs are too cowardly to say no to their bosses
>>720514397>unless the scenario is literally two hours long.>2x2hours >4 hours storybravo
>>720496640>it's ending is supposed to be a critique of franchise milkingI can't believe it's 2025 and people still don't understand V3
>>720514632It's more like MGS4 where Kojima basically said "You want more Solid Snake? Here he is. He's old and worn out, like this franchise."
>>720514550I actually find it really interesting that they decided to build on the franchise by using the same formula and being aware of it. It's a very interesting direction for a franchise to go when it's aware of it and it's intentional, and I appreciate that. Of course it all culminated with the third game so to continuing to do so after that would be silly. I guess there's some kind of irony if the way they break out of repeating the formula is through a retread of a previous game. I think if the third case doesn't have a double murder, people will lose their shit.
>>720506924The chatgpt is hilarious, because you can also see that character designs were made by ai, they’re a mesh mash of different danganronpa characters.
>>720514632But the "it's all a simulation" twist was in the previous game...
>>720514652steam page says the alt scenario will be just as long as the original
>>720513673Hundred Line is quite literally one of Kodaka's straightest games though. Eito is just Eito and he literally saved Kodaka from selling his kidneys.
>>720514574It's just that during a crucial moment you get to choose to do A or B. Hundred line was larger and had tons of routes (with tons of useless filler) but I feel like it can somewhat be used here.Realistically whatever choice you make at most is going to swap the killer and the victim so they don't have to write around too much. And maybe something at the end that leads to two different endings.
>First body discovery happens and it's [Insert Irrelevant Character (You) Don't Care For]>During the investigation, Hajime's perspective suddenly goes dark>Vision comes back, and is shortly followed by another body discovery >Hajime is dead
>>720514208>Takumi>Faggot???He may get raped by Eito is one ending, but he's probably by far the most hetero Kodaka protagonist since he can end up with various women in something that isn't just a bonus mode.
>>720514550You can even expand the scope beyond the VN formula, it was never supposed to be a pure VN or even marketed as one. But Spike is too creatively bankrupt to attempt thinking outside the box. I fear a Danganronpa 4 will actually be just Hundred Lines shtick with over 50 routes. A murder case simulator.
ok guys no memeinghow many of you actually think this is some ruse, that this will be more than a remake with a little extra fluff? that this is secretly DR4 or if that is too far, something that will at least significantly advance/change the established story?give me some odds. because I wouldnt go higher than like 20% that this is anything more than what it says on the tin.
>>720514996HL was so straight that fujos were mad that the girls cucked them our of routes and are begging for a yaoi DLC. I hope they never get it
Mahiru is a misandrist and a lesbian. Down with the fucking patriachy. Chuds are repulsive.Oh, btw, pedo shit Hiyoko should be removed. It's repulsive. Same with Mikan. We've got WOMEN playing, okay? We've GOT VAGINAS, okay? We're here :) Stop being so disgusting and doing stuff for incels. Take. Her. Seriously.Souda is gross too. I don't like him and how he hits on women. Does he think we're slaves to men or something?Speaking of which, cut OFF that shit with Nanami and that incel waifu pandering. Women have personalities. It's also gross to have sexualized CGs when you could be spending them on other stuff. You know. MORE IMPORTANT STUFF. Enough with the swimsuit shit also! We've got women playing too! Enough with shoving Owari's breasts around! BTW, Nagito is gay and trans. He bottoms for Hajime lolz. Het shit sucks ass. Trans lives matter.Coming to you, 2026.Make sure you still have your penis then!#Women gamers#We matter
>>720511206>Suposedly the world entered into despair after watching some girl die in a shitty squid game broadcast.What happened was:>Junko uncovers Izuru Kamakura>involves him in The Tragedy of Hope's Peak Academy, wherein the entire student council is murdered by Izuru>this information is leaked to the Reserve Course students, who revolt and follow Junko's orders>during this, Junko preys on various students with a fixation on her upper classmen, Class 77-B, and she is able to exploit them due to her Ultimate Analyst talent>once her work on HPA is done, she tells the Reserve Course to commit mass suicide, which blows what were student riots into full on societal collapse with over a thousand students now dead
>>720515114There's going to be an alternate scenario with new killers and victims, that's as long as the original game, so I'd say it's a bit more than just a "little extra fluff".
irregular reminder that people who think they should switch up the formula or, even worse, should move away from hope's peak/hope vs despair stuff COULDNT BE MORE WROOOOONG THESE THINGS ARE WHAT MAKE DANGANRONPA DANGANRONPA
>>720515114I think it'll be a legitimate fullgame length scenario with a really gay metaplot about remakes.
2 probably has the weakest cast imo (in my opinion) but i'll still play it probably, nothing else scratches that itchplus the whole aesthetic and music of the games is still great
>>720499587kodaka is a horrible writer so letting somebody else besides him do it is a good thing
>>720514550>>720514787You literally don't have to do that.You don't need to make insane mental gymnastics to make crazier and crazier plot twists every time either.You could literally just do unconventional things like triple+ kills, killer winning the trial, killer being dead already, protagonist is a victim, protagonist is the culprit but you are aware of it this time, and other various things and it would work.v3 being the same formula in a row is deliberately insulting. Like 3-3 LITERALLY has a second victim for no other reason than "I had to"
>>720496640Agreed, Shiuchi was the only well written and likable protagonist of the main games. It should have stopped at v3
STOP WITH THE DISGUSTING FANSERVICE.STOP IT.STOP SEXUALIZING YOUNG WOMEN.STOP MAKING WOMEN UNCOMFORTABLE.Stop making ME uncomfortable.WE'RE THE NEW AUDIENCE.You WRITE stories for US, OKAY?
>>720514486AI is even doing the schizo posting now, it's trully over
post hiddendon't care, fuck off
>>720501374>>720500513>>720500107>these schizoids are still mad
V3 is far, far etter than the putrid garbage that was DR3.
>>720515167>Stop being so disgusting and doing stuff for incels.This but actually.Soda can fuck off
>>720515114I don't think they are lying about the new scenario being as long as the original game. DR2 is what 30-40 hours? HL's prologue alone is 20-30 hours and while 2x2 Scenario isn't penned by Kodaka it is still being done by someone who worked on HL so they can probably pump out a 30 hour scenario just fine.
>>720515345come on why would you get hung up on such a postthey're like an hour into the game and complaining about stuff that has yet to justify itself. this is not a serious person.
>>720515290You don't, but you don't see other franchises doing it and being self-aware about it. I think the third game handled it mostly just fine, honestly. The third case was definitely egregious with it, I do agree with that, could've been done better. I think the fourth case is really good because the game is aware of the fact we know the formula, it's why Gonta is just revealed to be the killer so early. I really enjoyed that.
>>720514996>the mc literally gets raped>straightestWhy do you intentionally lie nigger?
>>720515428.....duh?even the brainlets who hate V3 dont deny that
>>720515115The game is gay nigger. You’re a pajeet lying to drive the sales up.
>>720515465rape is super straight THOUGH
>>720502373Hundred Line was better than any DR
>>720514431Kek. Do Tumblr troons believe this?
>>720515428No one seriously likes DR3
>>720515458what's 4th trial supposed to be again
>>720515609In a way he's not wrong, Mondo was insecure as fuck about himself and couldn't handle the fact that Chihiro was being a stronger man than him. Chihiro was actually working to be a stronger person and get over his hangups, while Mondo let them crush him.
>>720515114it's obvious going to be Danganronpa 4.Hope they finaly finish the AI junko wandering around since Ultra despair girl story, and it's not really this hard to explain why they reuse the simulation since Hajime just go insane naturaly
>>720515518At least for me DR3 was so bad that I'm glad VR3 shat on the Hope's Peak story. I pirated it because I refuse to give Kodaka any mony after DR3 but I kinda enjoyed it.
>>720496748Because it's ugly and unpopular
I can't imagine DR2's content flying in today's world. Sorry lads, but it'll be gutted. Good ideas in the thread though. Times have changed, unfortunately.That said, it's all down to the creators will transcending the illness of the homosexuals, retards, women, ESL's, propaganda, hijackers, indocrinators, redditors, musk's X insanity, and who knows what else. Maybe things'll work. Maybe they won't. Most likely the latter. I hope Kodaka somehow pulls through though. Maybe, just maybe, the game will be okay, the new scenario will be interesting, and /v/ will be fun.
>>720513415>The only time they did that was with Rantarou and arguably Kaede.>Danganronpa 1Sayaka is your assistant who then dies first.It is revealed that Makoto is the actual assistant to the real detective, Kyoko.>Danganronpa 2Twogami dies unceremoniously early into the game.Nagito Komaeda being completely insane and nothing like Makoto despite sharing a VA, design cues, and being Makoto Naegi da.>Danganronpa V3Shuichi is the real protagonist, not Kaede.The Ultimate ??? dies unceremoniously as the first victim.
>>720515720Big dude is always involved. First game it was suicide, second game it was by being a victim, so naturally the third case would have them as the killer.
>the junko we see in the game seems to have a talent, an ultimate talent even, for creating situations that turn people against each other, that makes them despair>most people probably operated under the assumption that this talent is what she used to corrupt the world>UHM NO ACTUALLY HER TALENT IS BEING A SUPER GENIUS AT EVERYTHING AND SHE CREATED A MIND CONTROL ANIME im still madnone of these niggers read over the draft and were like, "hey this is kinda stupid"??!?!?!
>>720515114>komaeda has a very different shirt design>mahiru is missing her freckles>i am schizophrenicsomething is going on here.
>>720503248Danganronpa 1 deserves to be reworked into Distrust
>starting the new route>playing chapter 1>hey instead of a dining party lets camp out and have a barbecueyour reaction?
>>720515835The expectation being subverted was Sayaka being the one with the murder plot, anon. That was the real twist of the first case.
>>720515167Kodaka go to bed
>>720515969brother I barely remember anything outside of the ending, who kills who and maybe a couple of killer gimmicks
>>720515836What's 4 gonna do?
In the new scenario, Nagito will have tons of sex with Chiaki. Trust me, Kodaka told me himself.
What will be the incident that triggers the alternate timeline?
>>720515874DUDE REMAKES BADDUDE REHASHING OLD GAMES BADSTOP ASKING FOR SEQUEEEEEEELS
>>720516146ibuki impregnation
>>720516146A nice boat shows up at some point in chapter 1, bringing surprises.
>>720516146Nagito doesn't get picked for cleaning duty
>>720515990The subversion was quite literally Sayaka herself being killed. That has always been the main subversion, with her plotting the murder being an additional one on top of that.The game forces you to spend much of Chapter 1 with her for this reason. She is your Maya.
>>720516146Izuru wakes up or Nagito succeeds his murder plot in chapter 1.Or both. Or the latter leads to the former.
>>720515541Only if it was your first kodaka game zoomer
>>720516080Well, the original point of my replies is that relying on the formula culminated in the third game, I'd say that was one of the main things the game wanted to address. I think the was a really interesting direction for the whole franchise to go, but with that, I don't think it's possible to go any further. So I think the new scenario will break away from the formula, which is also kind of ironic because we're returning to an older game that basically established the formula.
>>720516146Case 1. The ultimate imposter isn't going to die >>720512076
>>720516203>It's Shuichi Maki and mahoujaI would kneel
>>720515762Shut the fuck up nigger
>>720516146Akane hits her head on a coconut but instead of becoming retarded(she's already retarded) she becomes le master ruseman
>>720516071i remember Nagito crawling under the table during the light out for whatever reason and fucking with the crime scene for fun like in the first game
>>720515290>could literally just do unconventional things like triple+ kills,So...changing the formula?
>>720516230Please explain why any Danganronpa was better while bearing in mind>the majority of every DR cast is severely underdeveloped>all of them have shit endings>the majority of the cast you're left with by the end of the game tend to be the most boring fuckers in the room (2 and V3 especially)
>>720516270>So I think the new scenario will break away from the formula, which is also kind of ironic because we're returning to an older game that basically established the formula.TWO BY TWO KINO
>>720516364why would anyone keep wrong things in mind
>>720516212I know, but that extra thing about being Kyoko's assistant is kind of fucking stupid,. If you want a subversion for the actual murder and for the trial itself for the first game it's Sayaka's death and Sayaka's betrayal. While for the other games it's just as you said, "Byakuya" dying, Nagito being crazy, Ultimate ??? dying, Kaede being the killer. There's a pre-trial twist and a twist during the trial.
HL is kind of a weird game because it cheats by having like 20 different and barely connected plots. I think its peaks are as good as DRs but it also has some real dogshit routes that are way worse than anything DR put out. How do you compare them?
>>720516364DR1 surviving cast is pretty good imo, I don't know why they dropped the ball so hard in the other games.
>>720511152this is literally true
>>720516146Possible diversion points:>Teruteru reveals Nagito's plan>Twogami does not force everyone into the party >Avatar Error of some variety (i.e., memories transfer into the simulation for someone, or something happens to Chiaki's avatar)>Makoto changes something in the simulation when he realizes Izuru uploaded a virus
I don't see how anyone can get past the creepy artstyle.Let alone the whole franchise telling you to go fuck yourself.
>>720496640Damn really? I just started 2. And they're remaking it? Should I just wait? I don't wanna play the same game twice only to find the second one was a better experience. I hate wasting vidya time (that's why I hate metroidvanias).
>>720511564>>720512932I remember being pretty annoyed at the hypnosis anime plot, I just always assumed that Junko mind broke the DR2 cast with individual scenarios crafted to prey on their personalities and backstories, so seeing that she did it by essentially randomly stumbling into some guy who can make mind control anime by sheer luck was pretty underwhelming and lackluster.And I don't think 'it's not realistic for a high school girl to be able to do things like that so the hypnosis anime is a good explanation' is a good defense because this is Danganronpa where they essentially have magic talent powers. And also trying to argue that the magical hypnosis anime is more realistic is inherently silly.
>>720516298>Didn't play the gameRetard.
>>720516414>wrong thingsThose are all generally agreed upon things about every game anon.
>Saihara and Naegi fucked their love interests in their respective stories, except Makoto got Kyoko after the end while Shuichi pump and dumped Kaede before she died>new game is trying to make Hinata score chiaki in a new game where he was blue balled and went through simulation hell
>>720516146Initiating the Mikan romance
>>720516534why the fuck are you in this thread ? get the fuck out asap
I like Hajime, but I wouldn't complain about a Nagito MC>inb4 inverted roles
>>720516558agreed by whom, you and your imaginary friends?
>>720516401Like I said, I think people will lose their shit when the third case doesn't have a double murder. Fully expecting that to be the case.
>>720516520What makes the art style creepy? It's just an art style.
>>720516638oh yeah the whole re simulation could also be Izuru despair about losing Chiaki and looping hard
>>720515326Source?
>>720516535Most people think this, don't worry. Despair Arc was fucking shit.
>>720516698Something about the eyes and the pale skin.
>>720516638Please fucking give me a source.
>>720516638>while Shuichi pump and dumped Kaede before she diedV3-1 Saihara is a complete fucking beta and there is more evidence that Amane had sexual relations with Akamatsu than him.
>>720516638New game will be about a more competent protagonist actually getting to score with Chiaki.
>>720516535In DR's setting the SHSL Analyst being able to pinpoint people's emotional weaknesses and turning them to her side is more realistic than her randomly meeting mind control anime guy. It's also much more compelling writing-wise.
>there are people who thought we were getting V2 when they teased a new danganronpa thing couple of weeks agoI was one of them
>>720516534see>>720516649
>>720516834>Something about the eyes and the pale skinMost characters are pale in general in most media, and there are non pale characters in this series explicitly. Disagree on the eyes.
>>720496640Saihara failed LMAO
Calling hundred line gay is the funniest thing when takumi impregnates an alien chick.
>>720517114>Every character seems to have some fucked up backstory, literally the easiest shit for Junko to prey on using her real talent >Nah, let's use random hypnosis bro
>>720517175What about the part where the games tell you you're a creep for liking them?
>>720516883https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/90810619
>>720517317Oh, that part is easily explained by the fact that you're a retard and missed the point entirely.
>>720517317So the ending to one of the games, and that's something that can be argued? Did you play this series?
>>720517037being a dangan mc requires being an annoying beta.
>>720517508No, but I heard how 3 ends, calling anyone that likes it a creep for enjoying watching teenagers die.
>>720517548saihara is a chad tho
>>720517037>Rantaro was gay and killed by your precious mary sue girl who fucked said betaOuch
>>720517402Thank you.
>>720517562holy brainlet
>tripfag is retardedno surprise here
>>720515326I'd say Hajime and Makoto are likeable enough, but alot times they dont feel like characters, just a featureless self-insert extension of the player. I dont think theres anything wrong with that entirely as the games revel in being corny with its stereotypes.
>>720517548Makoto and Shuichi are cool as fuck though.
>>720517198He still stopped the killing game and the willingness to kidnap kids to participate.
>>720517562You do not have the full context for this scenario.
>>720517562Single digit iq post
>>720516208>>720516519>The matrix bugs out and Nagito's probability hax doesn't work for some reasonCould lead to kino maybe he even commits suicide AGAIN in the escape game if they're still being sent there
>>720516212>She is your Maya.your what now
>>720517679>MakotoGoofy, eternally optimistic kid who has strong morals and almost gets himself killed twice purely because he was about to punch Monokuma.>ShuichiFlawed and insecure, but grows after the first trial and continues to blossom until he becomes strong to shut down bullshit by the final trial, easily the smartest protagonist.>HajimeBumbling retard who never grows even though everything is served to him on a silver platter and needs to be constantly handheld through everything, requires an actual Deus Ex Machina to get any growth at the end of the game.
>>720517938Character from Ace Attorney, she's your assistant during the main trilogy.
>>720517979>easily the smartest protagonist.lmfao shuichifags are hilariousyou can tell they relate to the character because they are actual losers
>>720517941Lame as hell. Go back to plebbit.
>>720518109>>720517979There really isn't a debate on the intelligence part- Shuichi is far more intelligent than Makoto and Hajime.Makoto is just a normalfag, but Hajime essentially spends large stretches of various trials being led by the nose or stroking out in his mental skateboarding hallucination.
>>720518242>Nagito please tell me what the Ultimate Weapon is, I also can't figure out what an Octagon is, please I'm begging you
I think class78's IQ is so bad because of the nature of the game. There's no agree points, so the characters always have to be wrong. Maybe if there's ever a DR1 remake we'll get to see an actual smart class trial if they update the gameplay
Hajime is LITERALLY the most powerful character in the series.
>>720518242KODAKA PROTAGONIST INTELLIGENCE RANKING>Actually Smart TierYuma KokoheadShuichi Saihara>Average IntelligenceMakoto NaegiMakoto (DCT)Kaede Akamatsu>Below Average Intelligence / Literal Child TierHajime HinataReychoCumaru Naegi>Highly Likely This Person's Brain Is Comprised The Majority of The Time They're On Screen TierTakumi Sumino
>>720517302The only explanation I can think of is that they figured that they wouldn't have enough time in the anime to do that kind of plot so they just took the hypnosis anime subplot as a shortcut.Which is still disappointing, if they were going to do that they shouldn't have done it all.Maybe a ln or something. I heard there was already a Dangan Ronpa prequel LN or whatever.
Akane will win this time.
>>720518613Needs one more tier.>Spontaneously becomes smart when one of ten different writers uses him because said writer is a stupid hack that didn't even attempt at maintaining consistency between routes despite that explicitly being their jobTakumi Sumino.
>>720518613where does Rei Shimobe go?
>>720518749I subscribe to the theory that different routes have different degrees of Takumi's brain being eaten alive by a time traveling bug monster.>>720518863Haven't finished his/her game.
Can someone explain why everyone is saying Hajime is retarded? I remember him being smarter than Makoto at least.
>>720518613Still in the prologue, but Takumi stumbling, tripping and then passing out because he hit his head on the ground, then waking up and blaming it on an attack by the mysterious figure at first was pretty fucking funny.
>>720518947Pooichifag delusion. Pay no mind.
>>720518889The love hotel doesn't open until after Kaede dies canonically.Anyways, Shuichi's canon love interest is Himiko. Maki's oneitis is dead and she is never moving on.
>>720518947>couldn't solve most of the cases on his own to rather baffling degrees>got publicly humiliated by Nagito in 2-4>could not figure out what octagon means
>>720519021One off bang still counts
>>720518889maybe the dr2 remake will get love suite events.
>>720518947Nagito basically does his job in the middle three cases. Third and fourth cases are especially humiliating, with the latter being outright humiliating.
Hinata is the best protagonist overall but Saihara is still my favorite if we're not counting Komaru
>>720514376If a character relies on making references to be good, then they aren't a good character.
>>720519189He's a good character even without them though.
>>720496640>Remake Danganronpa 2>Immediately start fujo panderingI'm glad I never wasted my time with this tranny series
The Kaede and Shuichi interactions and references to each other in Talent Development Plan are very cute. Kaede's FTE's are also very cute. I love how they genuinely just really like each other and are basically crushing on each other.
Oh shit I just realised we might get to go back to the fun house or whatever it was calledFuck yes
>>720519339Fuck no, you mean.
>>720519064>>couldn't solve most of the cases on his own to rather baffling degreesI haven't played the games in a while, but I remember all the trials being like that. Makoto needed Kyoko and Byakuya a few times, and Shuichi even as the smartest still had Kokichi and Kaito's pep talks to move the trial forward.
Will he anhero when 2x2 blows Hundred Line out of the water in terms of sales?
>>720519339>fun house case has a huge roundabout thing of exploring how the killer could have used the mystery of the house's layout>it ends up being exactly what it seemed at first
A guy having his way with two hot blondes during the entire killing game is not a loser(non canon gameplay or not)
>>720519243>PROVE SHE'S NOT A GHOST
>>720519392Nah I liked it- I know plenty of people didn't like it but I thought it was interesting in a hellish everyone slowly starving to death wayAlthough now that I think about it we already know the secret of it so it probably won't feature
>>720517281People who call Hundred Line gay clearly have never played it.
>>720519576watch them do something else with it
>>720519674Everything about Eito's existence and how obsessed he is over Takumi screams faggotry even if Takumi doesn't reciprocate
>>720519752I hope soAlso hoping Gundham survives slightly longer although I feel like he's going to be a victim in this one
>different casesbased>tiny chef retard lives longer than the first 5 minutes nowdamn
>>720519837>sugitayeah possible
>>720496640>the people who seethe over and overthink the V3 ending are already having a meltdownBased
>>720519898It's still worth it if Mikan is a survivor in the new route.
>>720519898chapter 1 victim instead of killer, trust the plan
Seems like we all agree that Sonia is a killer this time.
>>720520145And also Pekoyama is a survivor
Hajime is not going to die, he will remain the protagonist from beginning to end. This is a goof thing. Nagito does NOT work as a protagonist in any way.
mahiru has her freckles still, it's just the lighting that makes them hard to see here.
>>720520145What's about motivation? My Gundam! My people! or My Despair Syndrome?
>>720496640Because the hack ending of V3 wasn't as deep and provocative as the writer thought and their follow up IP blew up in their faceOf course they come crawling back to DanganGODS
>>720520194Byakuya is going to sit on him and become the new protagScreencap this
>>720519436He's deliberately sabotaging it because he knows that will happen.
>>720520145I mean, she seems like the type of person to kill for her country.
>>720520247But imagine: Sonia execution
I still think the ending of V3 is cool even with more danganronpa existing. I don't understand why people take it so seriously.
>>720520194I think you're right but >>720520267 playing as fat Hajime for the rest of the game would be really funny.
>>720520313Shoot, I completely misread anon's post...
>>720520217oh thank god.
>>720520181I can see her as a victim, survivor would be cool but her whole thing revolves around Fuyuhiko and they would just end up rehashing his arc but for her.
>>720520354Zero Escape VLR It would be like when Sigma finds out he's actually an old man, but even more hilariously contrived
>>720500513He really does deserve it. I don't mind if they bring the Danganronpa IP back without him, like others said the character design/style and music was the real draw of the franchise. There are maybe 5 worthwhile cases fans remember, proving kodaka is not an irreplaceable genius mystery writer.Only a shitty person tries to finger-wag the audience who supported him, paid his career, and kept him relevant
the funny thing about eito is that he ends up loving darumi in a route, so even if he isn't gay.
>>720520353What's cool about it? It's not even a proper ending to the franchise.
>>720502997>and wants to ruin its legacy with more homosexualitySome DRfags are legitimately deranged
>>720520964See >>720514208Stupid nigger.
>>720520858>It's not even a proper ending to the franchise.I never thought of it as such.It literally had a DR1 tier open ending in the epilogue.
>>720518947He isn't. He just had the misfortune of being in the same game as Nagito, a man whose undoubtedly at the top of the charts where will and intellect are concerned. That people can compare Hajime, talentless and commoner he is, to someone like that, is actually a testament to his tenacity.Also, Shuichi is considered #1 because, in all of V3, practically no one's assisting him when it's time to get stuff done. Kirigiri backs Makoto in 1, Nanami is incredibly helpful in 2, but V3 is all Shuichi whose furthermore forced to deal with Kokichi ( one of the smartest too ) the entire time.No one's as burdened as Shuichi. The one person who could've contributed to his plights intellectually died in the first case. Imagine Nanami getting axed straightaway in 2. Or Kirigiri in 1. Hinami might fair well, maybe, sure, but what about Makoto?
>>720521062Forcing yourself into the gayest game franchises and then getting mad at everyone else is unhinged behavior unfortunately It's like the people who are obsessed with deltarune but cope that susie-noelle isn't a thing
>>720521062Your delusional headcanon? What about it?
>>720516146He shows up and causes the alterations.
>>720521253>>720521290>headcanonLmfao. If modern japan is gay that’s fine, but don’t go back rewriting history nigger.
