Post benchwarmers
Magus is fantastic. Easily top 3 and thus always deserves a place in the party.
>>720512969Just kill him and his faggot smug ass won't even take space on your bench.
>>720512969I always use him though
>cool boss becomes a party memberlove this shit, don't care if he's "bad" or "just ok" because i refuse to be a slave to any meta. he's cool.
>b-but muh healslut"No!"
>>720512969On the contrary, I bench Chrono and use Magus so I can wipe every boss with Omega Flare.
>>720513904Based. I always add them, even if they're optional and don't have special story relevance
>>720512969All the girls are shit in this game compared to the men. Except for BASED Ochette. and Throne but only because she can turn into Ochette
>>720512969(you)
>>720514276Damn bro you're dumb.
>>720514378No, I just have good taste
>>720514536Oh if you just mean in terms of waifus then it's whatever.
>>720514937No, gameplay mechanics too. What's good about Castii and Agnea? I know Agnea into Scholar can use her unique skill to make elemental barrage hit all targets at once but I don't like her enough to care.
>>720515113I'm pretty sure Agnea has an exclusive ability that makes the target guaranteed to act first. Castti has a cute voice and Concoct is always nice to have.
MagusChronoAyla>but no triple techs Don’t care
>>720512969Lore-wise Chrono, Magus and the frog would be the most interesting party to have
>>720515212Concoct would have been my jam if materials were easier to come by. I like using hoarded item resources for various unintended effects in RPGs, but I look into my inventory and see 3 diffuse herbs or whatever and they're like $2000 to buy, and I need to use at least 1-2 per battle just to have Castii's turns be "good" it's just not worth it. If mobs shat out Castii's ingredients way more often I probably would have put her in the party as a mainstay, her personality is really nice.
>>720513904Bowser is pretty cool in SMRPG
>>720515370This but Frog instead of Ayla
>>720512969Lyude from Baten Kaitos Eternal Wings is not so great. Kalas/Xelha/Gibari is pretty much the lineup you want, Still liked Lyude sometimes. Just took some work farming trumpets.
>>720512969Crono Frog Magus is the best team for aura farming though
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>>720515623That game is just so honest-to-God fun. 4th and 5th gens really explored a lot of easier games that found different ways to keep players engaged besides presenting a challenge to surmount, and many of them are considered GOATed to this day. Maybe that just speaks to how casual your average rando is but I think there's merit to it.
>>720512969Magus is good if your rushing.
>>720512969https://youtu.be/69wgSYk72Gs?t=269The last time I played Chrono Trigger I didn't revive Crono, I used Magus as the main character, and I went directly to the Black Omen. I didn't know that he steals the battle them if you fight Queen Zeal with him because I usually bench him.Also, Magus + Lucca + Robo is the only triple tech in the game that does more damage than the sum of its parts.
Being a good or bad character in Chrono Trigger is irrelevant because it is a piss easy game. Then you go into NG+ and it becomes even more trivial.
>>720516676I never knew that until now. That's fucking rad.
>>720512969You're a passive little bitch if you let this faggot join your party after he kills Glenn's boy. You dont even need him. The game is already easy and your party can cover everything with him.
>>720512969if anyone's a benchwarmer it's Lucca, and even then her Antipode dual tech with Marle and her Eternal Darkness triple tech with Marle and Magus make her worth using in endgame
>>720516235I think I would like Persona 5 more of this condescending simp was not in the game.
>>720516931Cross is weird in how it drops so much shit from Chrono Trigger, and also apparently its message was that Crono and company were wrong for messing with the timeline and that they should have just let Lavos destroy everything, as all of Chrono Cross's issues are a direct consequence of their actions.
>>720516931Cross sucks because the first arc of the game is really good, but then the second arc of the game starts introducing a lot of nonsensical shit, and then the final arc of the game attempts to pass Chrono Cross off as a sequel when it absolutely fucking is not, try as they might to stretch the ends together
>>720513482Well, before I die I'll make sure to do 1 run without him at all and try out some of those triple techs
>>720517152For me, it's Crono/Lucca/Frog and line bombing shit like it's Dresden
Marle is the real benchwarmer. She's supposed to be a healer, but she's worse at healing than Robo or Frog. total waste of a character
what does he even do
>>720515113Agnea has that aoe wind attack that moves your entire party up in the action order next turn. Castii's probably the worst party member but there is some pretty broken stuff you can do with concoct.
>>720512969I just farm magic caps and give them all to Robo so he just becomes a healer tank nuke
>>720516931>>720517436And just the fact that the Guile character was Magus in Radical Dreamers and they dropped it from Cross because it would overshadow the main story. Although I still love Cross.
>>720517978this desuIt might be a different story if her being ranged actually mattered but there's no real way to control that without a movement option like Grandia
>>720518051Yeah I think Robo tabbed up, Ayla, and Crono are the strongest party aren't they? Even better than replacing any of them with Magus. Robo just has tons of versatility, even his physical attack will be better than Frog's I think if you do something to it.
>>720512969Nobody's bad in Chrono Trigger, really. You can use whoever you want with no problems.I think my team was Lucca, Robo, Ayla.If you want a real JRPG bench warmer, look at vanilla P4 Naoto. That's a bad character.
>>720517978If you want to get into the weeds on it, she's op as fuck because you literally can't lose with her. The party is constantly hasted, healed, and revived if necessary. But it's one of those things where your whole party I think can get haste from equipment, and items are good enough for healing even if you don't use Robo or Frog either.
>>720513934>healslut + nuker>benching her
>>720514536>good tasteMore like shit taste
>>720515113Okay then yeah you're retarded. Castti is completely fucking busted, more so than any other character.
>>720517187for sure
>>720515113Castti is broken af while Ochette falls off in the late game unless you do that glitch. Also hot aryan nurse is better than the retarded dog faced midget.
>>720517987softlocks you if you didn't level him up.
don't feel like getting pics. But Sciel and Monoko.
>>720521210FUCK she's so hot she's the most underrated Nina design and I use her on every replay. I don't care if magic damage sucks. Efficiency is for fags and you can give her Transfer to feed Ryu +300 extra MP between rest stops.
>The blade of fronti-Shut up, Wyll. You're just here so I can sex the cambion.
I'd have kicked him off the team if I could've.
>>720521210>ingame model doesnt match her concept artI get it now that they had an artist shift halfway through production, but it still annoyed the shit out of me.
>>720522232It's like they reversed the white of her legs and part of her red top lol
Look I love her but unless I'm controlling her she is never getting in the crew.
tfw your party splits up and its time to play as the benchwarmers for a dungeon or whatever.
>>720522217It's insanely tone-deaf the way they treat his "sacrifice" during the temple of the ancients segment. Like, you're a piece of shit holding a child hostage and you're not even that thing. It's just a remote-controlled cat riding an animatronic moogle. Yet for some reason he gets a sad song and a monologue.
>>720522330Yeah. I remember her being strong in the arena once I learned how to play her, but yeah.
>>720512969I still love this game to death. The retarded idea of having 45 party members and only 2 open spots was nuts. But fuck it I love retarded shit like the skeleton clown
>>720522232The same with the cat dude. His art has him covered in yellow fur but his sprite art makes him look like a kemonomimi.
>>720522468Dropped my fucking picturePoshul is my nigga and I benched Kid for the entire game stupid Australian bitch
>>720522441She can do all kinds of crazy shit and make you tons of money but as soon as the AI gets a hold of her she turns braindead
>>720522532Why so many fucking party members? What were they thinking?
>>720522476Speaking of cat bench warmers
>>720522532the mushroom guy looks like he's living the most pained existence everjester girl a qt tho
>>720522335>the game doesn't have shared EXP so they're all 20 levels below the random encounters unless you reload a save and grind them up
>>720517436Cross's message is "fuck humanity and fuck you specifically for existing." Miserable game by a misanthropic loser.
>>720522335I partially hate FF9 solely because of that. My main party was always Zidane, Garnet, Vivi, and Steiner.
>>720522617The 90s were wild frfr
>>720522617I have no fucking idea but I respect their retardation. I just wish theylet me swap Serge out and add 4 slots or met me switch mid battle like FFX...
>>720522361I thought it was supposed to be silly and melodramatic on purpose, but it annoyed me anyway.
>>720522714Explain
>>720522694I didnt even see your post when I found this >>720522815Its fucked too because it's not like he's a fantasy race of mushroom person. He was just a guy who mutated into that freak because he ate so many mushrooms.
even the furby was more useful than him
>>720512969Why would I want two magic users when I can trade one for an archer or a ninja?
>>720522617I think it was just a gimmick.A consequence of having so many characters, many of which are completely optional, means that the vast majority of them have no influence on the plot.
>>720522998Because his summons are just that good.
>>720522998because INDIGNATION
>>720522904That guy is a millenial who played Cross when it game out got mad it wasnt Trigger and Lucca died to save Kid and got completely and utterly asshurt beyond all belief. Cross' final message in the game that literally every person is important and means something. The whole game has a beautiful message. To come away with the complete opposite bitter ass cynical opinion you have to be fucking retarded 1/2https://youtu.be/JRuhWfN0ftk
>>720523398
who the fuck played CC all the way to the end? what's wrong with you?
>>720522998I hope you're only saying this because of how slow spells are and not because you're implying the default party is bad.
>>720512969you can swap whenever so I use him for regular battles because he has really good aoe spells
>>720523398Forgot one. This one goes before the first two.Like fuck man this game broke people
>>720522115The two Ronso in his mandatory fight are actually level scaled. Like they knew you'd bench Khimari hard.
>>720522476They put a bandaid on the sprite by giving him a palette that matches the final art more and a new head sprite but yeah, he's still the beta design under it all.
>>720523464Yeah it is pretty fucking weird to be one of the only people who actually plays videogames on /v/ guess I'll go be a nigger and make another twitter screenshot thread or steam sale thread or maybe I'll just shit and piss myself over everything
>>720523464Masochism and sunk cost.
>>720523626yeah go be a nigger somewhere else
>>720512969>slow >little AP>bad normal techscoolest looking party member in the game but mechanically he's so ass
>>720523636It's a good fucking game and you got filtered because you're a dumb fucking little shit.
>>720522617Suikoden series was out and growing in popularity, near as I can figure.
>>720523693I'd tell you to cry about it, but you already are.
>>720523678>outclassed by an onion>only reason he's not the absolute worst like Nina is because UNGA BUNGA attacking in BoF3 will always outclass magic
>>720523659No stop being a nigger around me first. Chrono Trigger fans are the biggest fucking faggots. Worse than Final Fantasy Earthbound and Silent Hill 2 fans.
>>720523731Nothing you posted was an arguement it was the equivalent of a 12 year old girl going 'huh uh'
>>720523745i'm not even all that fond of CT, you're just having some meltdown over people not respecting the artistry of a game sane people never even bothered finishing (the devs sure didn't)
>>720523626Bro is ragebaiting ignore him
>>720515370>>720515651Just leave Crono dead for being so weak he couldn't face tank a Lavos blast and let the real heroes take care of business.
>>720523810What the fuck does art have to do with you being a stupid nigger? Why are you making shit up. Its very simple. You are a stupid nigger.
>>720523880gb2 the sharty
>>720523880Ok saar
>>720522532How dare you bench Best Fairy.
>>720512969The moment you unlock him you can just go grab Doom Scythe and casually rip the game apart. Sure, he's not the actual best character but he is the most straightforward. Nothing stops it
>>720524346CT is a strange game. Did you know that if you hack in that accessory that converts XP to gold on a new save you can still beat the game without any character ever gaining a level?
>>720522361They should have made him an AI instead of a dude controlling a remote toy.
>>720524964Nah
>>720522532OK, I'll take Crono, Ayla and Frog.>>720522617Never actually minded the high number of party members, someone mentioned Suikoden and in CC's credit I will admit I'll have an easier time remembering the CC party members than the non-plot critical characters in the Suikoden games.It should have been built and balanced around 5 or 6 member parties though. Weird that the one thing they decided to keep from CT was the 3-party scheme.
>>720522869It kind of is, perhaps to lull you into a false sense of security so Aeris's death can blindside you a bit harder (since Cait's is so intentionally frivolous)But then again even that has some subversion because when Cait Sith #2 just shows up to say "hey I'm back what'd I miss" he realizes he's showing up at the moment Cloud's having a mental breakdown and wrecking Aeris's shit.
>>720514276>OchetteBecause she makes me want to cry...
>>720523678>>720523743Nah Garr is good. It's completely reasonable to skip training Peco and he only turns out better with heavy investment. With Garr all you do is throw on the Beast Spear and he becomes amazing.
>>720526367He sucks anon.
>>720526084You make me want to cry, anon.
>>720522998For me it's Cless, Chester, Mint, and Arche.1:1 Cock to pussy ratio, with compatible partners as well!
and it's not because he's pink, or because he's yellow innate, or the annoying lisp. it's because of the red cheeks
Momo accuracy issues in BoF3 always forced me to bench her. Much as I'd love to use her, she's gotta go. Ryu Rei Garr for life.
>>720522335this game did that pretty well. i liked how gohan started at level 1 as well, but level 35 he starts getting big stat boosts
I'd bench Gala if there was an option to
>>720512969Hell no. Magus is the only one in the party with actual backstory with Lavos and it feels like he is the true hero of the story. Even his association with demons is actually good
>>720528169Literal skill issue.
>>720515663That game made an excellent job on balacing out the characters. It would've had better reception nowadays with how popular" blue mageing" and monster ranching has become after P5
>>720513482His base spells basically carry you through the entire post game. For some reason they have high multipliers than Crono/Marle/Lucca's version and Magus' superior magic stat.Dark Matter is actually garbage because nearly every nulls or absorbs Shadow.
>>720512969Breath of Fire games are the king of bench warmersBoF: anyone not Ryu/Nina/Deis/Karn. To be fair half of your bench warmers are fusion fodder for Karn. That leaves Mogu who might be one of the worst JRPG party members of all timeBoF2: Jean, Sten, Spar, Nina, Bow are all either useless or inferior versions of other party members.BoF3: Garr, this giant winged beast hyped in the story as this unstoppable warrior is complete garbage in game. No speed, no AP to use spells or abilities and his attack stat isn't high enough to make up for it. Nina becomes useless as spells fall off compared to physical attacks.BoF4: Cray is basically Garr but worse. Urshin is useless for half the game, Ursula is worst than Scias unless you schizo fish hardcore for exclusive weapons.BoF5: Dude D-dive one shot everything in the game rawr.
>>720512969If you were just going to bench him, why didn't you kill him then?>muh new game+YOU DON'T NEED HIM TO UNLOCK NEW GAME+HOW DOES THIS LIE CONTINUE TO EXIST IN CURRENT YEAR?
>>720513934>Heals all status ailments>extremely high magic damageWhy would I bench her?
>>720517978Dude, it's all about Haste.
>>720523678I cannot find a clean gif of his "charging for attack" animation. It's fucking awesome
>>720522115But this isn't true.
>>720518174Lucca & Ayla = best party. Third member is irrelevant. I'm not sure how square didn't realize how broken that pair is, but it's fun to steamroll absolutely everything once you find out.
>>720522183Warlocks in general seems very weak in BG3. All they can do is One Trick Pony with Eldritch Blast, and single target damage can be done with other classes.
>>720522361It's just so stupid. He offers to make the sacrifice specifically because he's the one person who can do it without dying, so the big "tradeoff" is that you'll never see him again. Then his second robot body just runs up to you immediately after & goes "sup." Like, he wasn't even gone for 30 seconds.
>>720525845A lot of the 108 stars in Suikoden games are just NPCs. As in NPCs that do nothing except talk in the story. You got ones that are vendors or let you play minigames but a lot of them are just filler for the tablet.Suikoden III and V have support slots but still have a fair share of do nothing NPCs.
>>720529384>BoF2: Jean, Sten, Spar, Nina, Bow are all either useless or inferior versions of other party members.The problem is that Katt has so much potential. Her single fusion does a lot of damage, but only avaliable at the end of the game.
>>720528142 That’s the thing though, it’s the red cheeks that seal the deal. The whole design just screams "mascot pandering" instead of character. You can tell they tried to make him cute and marketable first, then figured out the rest later. The lisp and everything else would’ve been tolerable if he didn’t constantly look like he was blushing after sniffing glue.
>>720530138it's like Beerfest where the identical brother but who can drink more wants to be called the same name and treated as nothing happened
>>720528142He has Crono's hairstyle
>>720529873Anon…. She’s too helpful is she not?
>>720530329Fusions don't matter until the final dungeon and it's difficult to maintain their forms since one high tier spell or death casting removes the effect. Keep in mind that Infinity has some of the worst random encounter rates in a JRPG. It gets as bad as 3 steps sometimes.
>>720530667Yeah the Shamans should've been avaliable in a complete set at the mid game, and not just at the end game.
>>720529635>Magic DamageThat's the reason.Physical rules in P4.
>>720513904loved my nigga albel nox in star ocean 3
>>720531391Yeah, but most of that will be dished out by the player anyway.Also, I got a lot of mileage out of wiping groups of enemies with expel and mudo abilities from Naoto
>>720522759I fuckin love 9 but It's hard to even have a main party in it. Even when you finally get all 4 of this party back Garnet's useless so you're waiting even longer to actually stick to this party
>>720522532>>720525845I'm not the biggest fan of Toriyama's artstyle but even that said this feels like a substantial downgrade. It's easy to forget that for all the nostalgic stuff the 90s and early also had some really mediocre artstyles and designs, especially around the turn of the millenium.
I know this game has like 50 benchwarmers but there's something special about Colm that really makes me never want to use him
>>720530321 Yeah, Suikoden's whole "everybody join the cause!" gimmick was always quantity over quality. Like sure, it’s cool building up your army and unlocking headquarters stuff, but let’s be real-half those characters are just warm bodies to fill a roster. You recruit a dude who juggles knives and he ends up opening a shop that sells potatoes or something. I always laugh when someone gets hyped about getting all 108, like bro... enjoy talking to the guy who literally exists to change your curtain color.
>>720522183It's kind of a shame. I did like Wyll and I don't hate him for being a black rich kid like most of /v/. He honestly ain't far from the Paladin archetype, but it is so disappointing the way handled his horns. I thought his Arc was going to be either>Kill Karlach, Kill another Innocent on Mezora's behalf, piece together that both were Innocent, High Ideals Hero becomes deeply Cynical >Wyll refuses to kill Karlach, gets turned into a Demon, It just looks like horns so it's not socially a big deal, his soul is inherently changed, more like Resist Durge, more angry.And at the end, the decision means fucking nothing.>>720522335Wrong. It's fucking cool when they do this. I LOVE the desperate feeling and "we're all in this together" shit. As long as they account for the EXP shit.>>720529873Her and Wenduag are batshit insane and it's amazing how many guys will stick their dick in crazy. Wrath did a good job in making "evil" NPCs like Daeran and Regille who a sane person would actually work with. >>720530012Hunger of Hadar is pretty good. Works excellent with a Conjured Druid's spike field to absolutely shut down a battlefield.
They fucked her over in Reload. Granted, she wasn't really all that amazing in FES either. But then again, no one was. Everyone in P3's cast had some sort of flaw that held them back hard.
>>720529036>For some reasonThe dude is basically a secret character for the final dungeon, of course he'd be OP.
>>720534373I kinda remember I kept her around, don't remember which buffs or debuffs she had. Not that it matterered who was in your party in Reload so long as you had Junpei
>>720535010Junpei didn't always get a shot since I optimized the protagonist too hard at the first opportunity. Slash Amp and Crit Rate Amp were mistakes.
>>720528315Galas great though. His only weakness is Dark. The issue is he starts at level 1 when you get him and usually you have the other two at like level 7 or more by that time.
>>720517978True.Frog and Robo can heal the entire party for 999 after hitting a certain level and there's gear that grants you perma-haste.Nevertheless, I'll use her for my entire current playthrough as a challenge.
>>720533883>Her and Wenduag are batshit insane and it's amazing how many guys will stick their dick in crazy. Wrath did a good job in making "evil" NPCs like Daeran and Regille who a sane person would actually work with.I mean, Chaotic Evil PC's are usually frawned upon on Tabletop for this reason: They're crazy and hard to work with.
>>720513934Gay and a faggot.>>720517978Haste>b-but haste helmsLate game itemIce damage is potentDual techs are greatTriple techs are great.In all seriousness, there are no bad party members in Trigger.>>720517987A steal bot for Rikku mix supplies.>>720522330You just have to mess with turning off artes.
>>720512969Both floors
>>720532634>stuff the 90s and early also had some really mediocre artstyles and designs, especially around the turn of the millenium.The artist made Deedlit and Pirotess and everyone else in Lodoss Wars shut your fucking whore mouth. Harle and Kid are an 11/10 waifu design. Toriyama is great but Deedlit is sexier than anything he's ever done and his same face just gets tiring after awhile.
>>720536853Based Nobuteru Yuki fan, his style defined 90/80s fantasy anime
>>720536853>>720537026That's the same artist? Christ, talk about style deterioration. Funny how Kishiro had the same problem with Gally after the first manga ended.
>>720537137I don't really see how Chrono Cross is that much worse, it was around the same time as stuff like Escaflowne The Movie, which looked God-tier. The original portraits in Chrono Cross were unfinished and were only finished when he returned for the remaster; they're just diverse, colorful, whimsical designs.
I like how much variety the Cross cast has. You can say they were just copying Suikoden, but they made sure everyone looked extremely distinct from each other.
>>720537319M8 you can use all the workaround terms you want but most of those designs are fucking hideous compared to his earlier work. Part of the problem is probably the shading which makes the skin look like plastic but that's more of one of the more glaring flaws of the overall designs. I suppose it's hard to hold it against him, I'm sure any artist who's told he has to draw 45 distinct fucking character designs + extras for a video game deadline in a 90s era development cycle would also have similar problems.>Escaflowne The Movie, which looked God-tierMuch like with OVAs, they typically get lot more attention to detail and higher production values so that's not all that surprising.
>>720536853He's a good artist but something was really off with Cross, alot of the art of the characters in game looked like mannequins in PS.That being said, would a Riddel.
>>720512969>benchwarmerHow so? He is a great character.
>>720529804the opposite is tho, the ronso bros get their health boosted based on how strong catman is, so if you use a gameshark to max his stats the bros get millions of HP
>>720517987He's like the player.If the player is retarded, then he's bad.If the player isn't retarded, then he's as fine as Auron or Lulu.+infinite lvl.3 key spheres
>worst magic stats in a game where magic is extremely dominant, especially late game>lowest base speed, and even with all the speed gear he only ties with the fastest character with zero investment>only 3 additions, one of which is locked behind maxing out the other two, and none of them give good SP gains>doesn't get his dragoon spirit until the very final dungeon unless you just so happen to backtrack to a specific town in the first area long after you have no reason to go back there>insult to injury, he has almost zero story presence in the party after joiningKongol really got fucked over in this game. A shame because he's got the coolest design of the main cast.
>>720522361I thought it was weird too, but it makes a little more sense if you view it as building a false sense of security before Aerith actually dies, it makes you think everything's gonna be fine.
>>720523398>>720523451>>720523547Meh I am not moved nor impressed by this faggy shit. I thought Cross sucked. Refused to even beat the game it was so bad.
>>720537545As wide as an ocean, as deep as spit on the floor.
>>720512969I will always add the cool edgy goth man
>>720515651fucking based
>>720544174>>720544495Meh, I not only liked it but enjoyed it for what it was. It's not like Suikoden's big cast is that deep either
not really about benchwarmers but in suikoden I always run flik and viktor
>>720512969Every single archer and armor knight in GBA fire emblem with the sole exception of Oswin.
>>720522532I LIKE ZOAH
bof 3, nina and garr, magic level 3 sucks, garr is magic/physical with stupid low agi, genuinely what where they thinking?
Zelos from Tales of Symphonia was my real benchwarmer. Ran most of the game as Lloyd + harem and swapped someone out for Kratos later because I thought Judgement as a skill was cool.
>>720537545Reminder that Guile = Magus
>>720521210How fucking dare you say this about my wife
>>720547082NotCanon
>>720539678>if the player is retarded, he's bad>if the player isn't retarded, he's badInteresting logic.
>>720512969pic unrelated
Everyone in Xenogears not named Citan.
>>720512969Kimahri
>>720549734This
>>720522532Orhla my beloved
>>720517987He's a generalist in a game where specialization is rewarded.
>>720512969Terry is fucking worthless. Thankfully, his wife more than picks up the slack.
>>720517987>WHAT IF WE MADE THE BLU ONLY ABLE TO CAST BLUE MAGIC AS LIMIT BREAKS?It was retarded in 8. It's retarded in 10 as well. Imagine if the fucking BLM got this treatment, it's conceptually stupid
>>720522115>Free 3 Spheres at a point where you normally wouldnt have access to themKimahri is just Rikku 2
>>720522217Eh, he's still better than Vincent without needing exploits.
>>720554691Isn't Vincent the best mage in the game apart from Aeris?
>>720554885I think Cait Sith just has better stats in general, with Vincent just having his later limits and the overflow exploit holding him together.
>>720512969Useless
>>720557053>Not as good offensively as Vivi>Not as good a support as Eiko>Spends a big chunk of the game traumatized to hell and backPoor girl just doesn't have a good time of it.
>>720557423should had made summons better as it is she serves no purpose in her own gameEven amarant can throw shit to do 9999 damage
>>720554885No, Vincent is just bad except for 1 pivotal thing, the Mug Glitch. Vincent is a glorified CS skip button which is why he is worth taking along
>>720557563I just like Lift
>>720523678>>720540589I can't think of a single JRPG where the big slow guy wasn't mediocre or outright shit
CyanUmaroAmarantKimahri
>huge jacked guy>does less damage on a standard attack than the prettboy protagWhy is this so common?
>>720560860>>720561517Caver's pretty dope. He's stronger and tougher than Six, but is slower and has vastly less magical aptitude, making him better for purely physical vocations.
>>720528315Gala is the best mage, so you're supposed to focus on capturing seru with him. Using magic also mitigates how shit his action bar is in the early game.
>>720513934Who else are you going to pick? Teddie? lmao
>>720563547It's not her fault the catboy is an absolute murder machine.
>>720560860Steiner from FFIX's pretty good. I'd say Robo from Trigger should be the blueprint given his slow ass is still so incredibly useful it outweighs it.
>>720561941In the SNES version, if you make him your Metal Slime, it's super easy to beat the bonus boss. Have Carver spam Protection every round and he'll tank all of Nokturnus' multi-target spells and breath attacks while taking 0 damage. The only dangerous attack Nokturnus will have using this method is his scream which hits everyone for around 120 hp.I easily beat Nokturnus on my first try in less than 20 turns and got the other ending to the game.
>>720523678There's a battle formation where you can just give him Rei's speed, the real problem with him is that Momo cucks everyone with plot computers
>>720557613Sciel is bad at the start but top tier by the end. Lune is the opposite.
>lucca killed by robo's evil fursona and his dragon clown tulpa gf>crono and marle are MIA presumed dead>also lavos is back because it evolved into a time god i guess I have no clue what kind of crack they were smoking when they were making cross
>>720513904Bowser is the second best party member in SMRPG
>>720515480You pick characters because you care about mechanics. I pick characters because I wanna see funny frog guy, he’s cool.
>>720512969Kimahri.
the selection is so bad that i just made sydney a companion with a mod
>>720528142Poshul is a girl. And she sucks because most characters in CC suck, there are just too many of them.
>>720557613Sciel carried my ass before I turned Maelle into a parry nuke
>>720515370This. Falcon hit clears the entire game while Magus can AoE whatever is left over.
>>720514276Technically there are no bench warmers in this game because you need to complete everyone's stories.
>>720522468I couldn't find his last body part so I just gave up on having him. I think I got everyone else though
Sometimes the bench are for characters that I think don't fit the game.Like the dog from Dragon Age Origins is actually pretty good but it feels weird bringing him along for the epic battle vs the darkspawn.
Yoshiro because he'll leave your party and leave you without a thief.
>>720512969Bruh
>>720528169There's a bunch of ways you can boost Momo's accuracy, though. Wearing an Artemis Cap helps, apprenticing under D'Lonzo gives acc buffs, you can learn guaranteed hit skills from Bunyan and Meryleep - and that's assuming you don't just train her up as a mage.
>>720563951Damn this nigga ugly
>>720570497Nah the dog is cool
>super good at healing in a game where you can see who is aggroed so the main character's basic bitch heal is good enough and one of your tanks eventually unlocks a skill that heals on crits>poor team synergy in chain attacks which are the easiest way to crank out big numbers if your team has synergy>no access to topple, a status effect that immobilizes the enemy and can be extended with more topple uses to the point where the enemy can't move if it isn't immune to topple>using her skills builds a gauge that makes her inactive when full until it depletes, no other character has this drawback>doesn't even have good passives to share with other party members, only one out of 6 other characters can benefit from them
>>720575603bazongas make her worth it
>>720528663Magus is a loser. He gets groomed by monsters and despite his skill, power and knowledge of events he loses to Lavos. In order for him to "win" he has to team up with Chrono's team who can beat Lavos without him. He's the Vegeta of CT.
>>720516747Difficulty doesn't matter as long as the game is fun.
>>720521943>>720522104Explain broken Castii strats pls
>>720512969No way unc benched Magus :skull:
>>720526367I'd rather have Momo, who hits as hard except has a beefy AP pool to spam shadowwalk, nullifying her only weakness entirely. I bet fucking Nina could be made into a better bruiser than Garr for the same reason.
>>720522124Monoco’s broken in postgame with Joyaro
>>720577225>can give the party 4 BP every turn for cheapIt's that simple.
>>720517987gives you a copy of another character + blue magic
>>720560860Sabin.>>720546085Speed only matters for Rei thanks to Chain Formation.
>>720575603I didn't use Sharla in my DE playthrough since I always heard people say this and it really did end up being true. Shulk and Riki's heal was more than enough. It's also funny how XC2 gets a lot easier when you just throw Blade Nia on Rex and handle the healing yourself.
>>720581018Oh there's a BP concoction? That changes things. But it's really more of her enabling the other party members to do broken shit rather than being broken herself.
>>720522124Sciel is probably the best character for all of act 2 because Chation + card weaver completely negates how shitty foretell is, letting her max stacks on aoe and immediately get a second turn before act 3 where everyone will get second turns. Then in act 3, having an ability that doubles the damage of someone else pretty much locks her into being the 2nd best pick after whoever you'd be choosing to buff.
>>720581624No, that means she is broken.
>>720581624>this character that lets every other character act at full power every turn isn't that powerfulJust because a character is support does not mean they can't be overpowered.
>>720557053Eh, she has booty and thigh at least. That means something in some context.>>720563547She's the game's buff and debuffer, she just makes everyone including Catman better.
>>720522926this guy was the letdown of the millennium, fucking hell i'm still mad
did *anyone* ever use this greasy little faggot?
>Not only the most boring>Not only betrays you if you rightfully call him a bum>But the worst party member in combatHow did they do it.?
>>720577225She’s easily the best support character with broken BP battery, turn order manipulation with whimsical leaf, HP, SP, phys. attack buff, cleansing ailments and more and she has the potential to do the highest elemental damage. She’s broken af
>>720576572Reminder that no one could solo Lavos.The thing eats planets or something. He even one-shots Crono at one point.
>>720581930>>720582109Okay professor semantics calm down
>>720583039Ironic.
>>720512969Why hasn't anyone trained an AI to increase the resolution of pixelated sprites?
>>720583268Don't ever reply to me again
>>720583527Ironic
>>720560860They're usually really good in DQ. DQ3 Soldier/Warrior is damn near the best class in the game.
>>720583527Given your original post I can see why you’re too stupid to realize that
Unfortunately.
>>720528315>Game outright lies to you about how you're supposed to be using him>He's actually the party's best mage>But you have to beat the shit out of monsters to unlock magic in the first place, which he's bad at>Magic itself is a pain in the ass to level up since the animations are long and unskippableGala had the whole game fighting against him.
>>720531391>Physical rules in P4Whose physicals? Because Chie and Kanji don't make a full team and Yosuke ain't out-damaging Yukiko. In fact, if you're going full physical glass cannon, then Yukiko is the perfect fourth member to keep the beaters topped off while sneaking in some decent magic damage when you're setting up your buffs. Unless I'm forgetting that Naoto gets Matarukaja in Golden or something like that, I can't think of another party member that brings anything better to the table for support.
>character is benched by basically everyone who plays the game>you're forced to use them in a later segment diabolical
I’ve literally never used him. Love his character design, but he’s too little too late.
Hey, are you wondering why everyone in-game says that Adept Rogues are a shit-tier class when your character is busted? Well now you can see for yourself how miserable they are when they don't have main character privileges.
>>720515623Heh. That weapon that has him throw Mario at the enemy is pretty cool
>>720584905Don't blame you, but he's genuinely one of the most useful characters. His No Mercy skill is practically free and puts anything Steiner can do for most of the game to shame. Plus he has a lot of utility and can fit into any role you need. By the end of my last playthrough I was using Eiko as a damage-dealer since White Robe + Holy does such good damage I couldn't pass it up, but Amarant was able to pick up the slack as the healer thanks to Aura and Chakra. But that was still my first time trying him out because yeah, he really does just join too late.
>>720523398Cross' story is complete dogshit but I love everything it stands for. It feels like a self-aware yet genuine parody of jRPGs at the time (nigh incomprehensible 2deep4u plot with a simplistic moral at the end + needlessly creative gameplay mechanics and a gorillion party members)It's such a burst of raw creative energy that embodied jRPG design at the time. The god-tier OST helps too and Harle is cute
>>720586624Reddit
>>720560860Thunder God Kick carried my ass in Sky SC on hard and for that Zane/Zin/Jin/Whatever he's called now will always be my nigger
>>720584020Doesn't he hilariously get stat-mogged by Geno? Like if you follow the ideal level up route Geno ends up having lower stats than him including MATT?
>>72058727199% sure that was a bug.
>>720550030She is the only one who can steal
>>720587378Don't care, I will never forget him bailing me the fuck out with a crit thunder god kick and just absolutely decimating Loewe
>>720582589I almost never used companions at all in Fallout 1/2. They're just annoying to have around.
>>720584905Doesn't help that he's probably the most superfluous character in the party in story terms. I'm not sure why he's in the game except that they didn't want to waste his design.
>>720584793Could be worse, he could be Jean>immediately gets sent to gay baby jail once you get him>is shit anyway even if you dare to use him
>>720567757Couldn't they all perma-die in combat? Except Fawkes, who had so much HP he was effectively immortal.
>>720582605He’s too generic and uninteresting
He's coated for the stretch from Burmecia to Alexandria Castle because blizzara is overturned, but besides that you only use him because you like him or have to.
Useful in theory but I ain't using 'em.
>>720550030Anise at least has a niche of fitting on a 3-mage party + Luke/Guy, for those bosses which will fuck up your NPC swordman if you use both Luke and Guy. Assuming you're a real man and don't use items on fights, of course (except MP items on your healer, I guess? Been too long).Natalia is the real shitter, garbage healer, garbage physical damage, garbage spells (does she even have it? Been too long), garbage stunlock potential with her combos.
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>>720512969Marle is my benchwarmer. Lucca is best girl.
>>720582915There is literally an ending where you have to finish with Crono soloing Lavos.
Who did you pick for the final battle?>inb4 Raja
>>720557563>you are black
Kek this thread is gonna end up with half of the FF9 cast in it.
>>720582915That's the point, Magus tried to do things on his own and got nowhere. After that you can essentially finish the game without ever seeing him again which would put him far away from being a protagonist or "hero".
>>720595489that sounds like some new game+ buggery. None of that is canon.
>>720536230I dunno, I often ditch the bucket of bolts
>>720590351fucks and dog got hp/level with the DLC update probably because they were the only ones ever used by playersthe robot had a bug in the base game that let him get close to that amount of hp
>>720512969I never see anyone using this guy
>>720547082This retcon doesn't change anything because he didn't do fucking anything in Cross.
>>720583703Is it? I thought it was basically outperformed by Martial Artist until you get pretty far into the postgame.
>>720601464Cope
>>720595625is 4 good?
>>720560860There are rare occasions when being slow can actually help. I remember using Ayne in Legaia 2 (don't play it, it's trash) as my dedicated healer. Since he would always go last in the turn order, I could put him on healing duty to make sure that any damage my other characters took would get restored before the next turn, that way I wouldn't have to worry about whether my heals would go off before I took a second big hit that'd wipe me out. Doubt it was the ideal setup, but it got me through that slog.
>>720515370frogroboayla
>>720512969The actual benchwarmer in Chrono Trigger is Marle who has virtually no use whatsoever unless you want to slowly apply haste to everyone.
>>720604147Well Lavitz has the second worst speed in Legend of Dragoon, and that's actually a good thing because his spot in the turn order is a good match for his spells.
>>720603854It's generally considered the high point of the entire tetralogy.
>>720512969Step aside
>>720512969his 3 tech with marle and luca is good
only use to be able to progress through floor
>>720595625I've said this in another one of these threads, but they really fucked some of these characters over by only giving you one optional slot. You can only pick one of these characters, and one of them is easily the best character in the entire game. I'm sure there'd be a lot more variance if you could swap out Rune for Kyra or Wren for Gryz. I get the thematic reason behind the four mandatory party members, but damn.>>720603854It's genuinely one of the best 16-bit RPGs. I'd put it right up there with FFVI.
>>720604506I'd definitely rather use him than Goro, until I accidentally press the button one too many times and I see Ungaga attack a rock 400 times in a second and instantly break whatever weapon I had equipped.
>>720604384Man I love the look of the Sega consoles.
>>720604605what? I hate goro but his charge up attack isnt so bad since it give I-frames and it hits twice on the last damage tic
>>720604468>Weird fucking "open relationship" with Octavia>The player can convince Octavia become monogamous and dump Reg>This causes Reg to kill himselfKingmaker is pretty fucked up at times.
>>720512969Bro has drip frfr
>>720604785>Very first line of dialog he has with you he says it's okay if you fuck his wife because she's such a "free spirit"The cuck orc deserves it
>>720516235The only party members who actually matter in battle are Joker (does everything), Makoto (lesser Joker) and Ryuji (PHYS God). The fourth member really doesn't matter though you may as well use Haru who can do a little bit of everything as well and Gun skills are good. Morgana's the first to go into purgatory but he, Ann, Yusuke, Akechi and Sumire are all pretty useless.
99% of the roster in MGQ: Paradox is either trash or just bland as fuckThat didn't stop me from using my favorites, even if they were shit, but holy FUCK the balance in that game is awful
>>720604767Granted, I haven't played Dark Cloud in twenty years, so I probably just didn't know the full extent of what he could do, but I remember being fucking miserable whenever a floor forced me to use Goro. Probably self-fulfilling too, since I'm sure that meant I wasn't upgrading his equipment or keeping his level at parity with everyone else.
>>720604926I don't know, man, I feel like a natural correlation of "don't stick your dick in crazy" is "don't stick your dick in crazy situationships".
>>720517436Cross exists so Kato can jerk off over how smart he is and also so he can jerk off over Kid. It also exists to show that he's an utter hack and a fucking pseud of the highest order and Chrono Trigger's story was only good because Horii is the guy who actually writes it and he knows how to make good adventure stories. All Kato did was script the story that Horii wrote.
>>720513604>Just kill him and his faggot smug ass won't even take space on your bench.Why are you killing him? He wasn't nearly as bad as he was made out to be in the first act. Unless you became deeply attached to Cyrus in the two minutes he was on-screen, you're a bloodthirsty sociopath for battling him.
>Wow, isn't it great that Vengeance lets me join you as a party member in battle? What's that? You're gonna use idun instead? Well, okay. Just let me know if you need me."I'm sure the human party members are good for new players who aren't good at team building with fusion yet, but there was never a point where one of them joined my party where they weren't far outclassed by the demons I already had.
99% of the cast of any Suikoden game but the flipside is that they're fairly easy so you can use anyone and be fine. My final party in Suikoden II was Riou, Oulan, Tomo, Ayda, Eilie and Lo Wen and I had no issues.
>>720575603i had to use her on my dolphin run on the final boss because it was unplayable chugging at 3 fps and I had to let jesus take the wheel and autobattle it.
>>720605243So I can hear his awesome boss music again, before reloading the save and recruiting him.
>>720512969We need a game where if you bench a character long enough, he ends up impregnating the next character that you benched alongside him unless you bring him out.
>>720557563Oh, nailed it. He has incendiary ammo but you can get Grunt first.
>>720528169The only problem I have when Momo is in the party is that she makes me so erect it's impossible think straight.
>>720605017theres only 1 or 2 floors in the entire game that force you to use anyone but xiao so all you gotta do is have a strong weapon synth'd to use as a temporary boost and put it on goro.save before you do floor and just go around killing the weakest creatures possible and if after they dont drop the key you can try harder creatures or reload
>>720512969I just like having Frog 1v1 him and kill him. It's one of the most kino fights in the whole game. It's just too kino of a scene to miss. You also get him right before the one area you CAN'T use multi target spells.
And I'm still mad. I get that Julius was (rightfully) broken in Aria because he was canonically a broken character, that's a part of the story but Dawn Julius Mode he's so bad they gutted him, he is so bad it should have just been called Alucard Mode instead
>>720584020He has a AOE spell.
>>720605017>>720606643Game falls apart as soon as Ruby joins up and then you just use her all the time anyway.
am i wrong if i find it annoying that your benched chracters dont level up if they arent used? i feel like they should. that way you can switch the entire game and its fun. but if they dont level up you are kind of locked in to using only the ones you use the most
>>720606718the cat character is literally the best in the entire game. and you get it before the end of the first area IIRC
>>720606694and so does Geno at the same level. Even sadder is Geno's also hits harder while costing the same FP
>>720606694>>720607073I bench both of them when the real Mario characters start showing up.
>>720607073Mallow's is much cheaper and gets the job done.
>>720606787That's a common opinion to have. FF7 has a lot of mandatory party switches so it's cool that they had the foresight to give benchwarmers a 50% experience share.
>>720606787Persona 4 really hurt in this regard. Naoto and Kanji were good in random encounters, but Yosuke and Chie were better against bosses, so I'd just use them all the time or else they would be underleveled when I needed them.
>>720523398>zoomer acts like being a contrarian who likes Bad Thing means he's enlightenedFuck you
>>720604303That's not how speed works in LoD. If you're slow you get less turns.
>>720604513None of the optional characters are anywhere close to being the best.
>>720607594>Yosuke>better at bosseslmao
>>720560860This guy is great because he can easily get an earth magic spell that negates a single instance of damage in an area so you can keep casting it every turn and fully dedicate the rest of the party towards damage.
>>720606161What about her makes you erect anon
>>720608247Raja literally has a massive AoE heal and a spell that does massive damage to the end bossHe is by far the best optionI've seen a TAS where they choose Demi for the damage, but its TAS, doesn't count
>>720605810you can also hear it if you fight queen zeal at the end of the black omen with him in the party
>>720606689I've never played the game because the art is so bad.I know that's petty.
>>720557563He has more use than Jack. Jack is the absolute worst party member in ME2. She's a better character than Jacob but if we're talking purely combat then Jack is fucking awful. Tali is terrible too because you're not fighting a lot of geth enemies in this game. Really anyone who's stuck with a shotgun in ME2 is bad.
>>720575603Also Melia since her AI is absolutely retarded and will stand around doing nothing for extended periods of time. Though if you control her yourself nukes the shit out of everything to the point where aggro becomes a big issue.Speaking of bad there's also Reyn (however you spell his name) who is a worse tank than Dunban in every way.
>>720608652That doesn't make him the best character.
>>720608643Dawg that's gay don't ask that
>>720512969Killing him felt so good. I love getting revenge i n video games.
Does anyone ever use this guy except when you're forced to? He's like a jack of all trades except instead of being kind of good at everything he's just sub-par at everything. On top of it, as a character he's just kind of lame too and any segment focusing on him is among the dullest in the game. Dude just fucking sucks.Everyone else in the game is more or less useful but Rab really doesn't offer anything.
>>720609124This zoomer mentality is destroying the world
>>720608530But everyone can easily get access to Earth Wall in that game
>>720609442The Definitive Edition gives him a bit more stuff, but really, he's there to fill any holes you might have in your comp if someone bites it.
>>720522476Leomon digivolve too...narutoleomon!
>>720523398>guys I have autismcool
>>720523678It's true you need to train him in speed and accuracy but you're going to be training any character you use aren't you? Grinding the good abilities.
>>720609461Just sit in the chair, cuckdude.
>>720609442I used him way more than Sylvando. I think Sylvando was my least used and it’s not because he’s gay.
>>720582589What? He's a mainstay in evil playthroughs. He's not even bad.
>>720610384You don't like Hustle Dance and Oomphle?
Post cockwarmers
>>720611203I didn't think she was useful until she got her endgame spells, but I kept her around because I thought she was cute.
>>720611323Lucca's one of those characters who'd be a lot better if they let you swap party members in battle. She does one thing extremely well, but odds are you're gonna want someone like Frog or Robo who can do a little of everything.
>>720610382Oomfie chill
>>720604513>FFVII played it for the first time a few years ago and found it to be insanely boring. I’m convinced the only reason it gets so much praise is because of nostalgia.
>>720610889Not really. It’s been 6 years and I’ll be real her, I let Erik and Hero do 99% of the heavy lifting while using one specific pep-pep move or whatever they were called for Act 2 and 3. I paired those 2 with red mage girl (or green one when they fused in act 2) and Jade.
>>720611653I can only speak for myself but Final Fantasy VI released before I was born.I don't think your reasoning holds unless you are arguing with people in their 40's.
>>720610384Hustle Dance will get you through most of Act I making him the best healer. Oomphle makes him fairly useful for boss fights afterwards and if you want to use knives giving him Cobra Strike basically means setting up Erik to murder bosses, plus Ladies First for Serena/Veronica. His use is basically making things easier for other characters and he's very good at it.
>>720611653>another zoomer contrarian post
>>720611323>>720611427She's useful for cheesing the Golem and Golem Twins since you can just spam Fire Sword dual techs on them and your recently acquired Ruby Armor from the stone age means they counter with attacks that do single digit damage. And yet there are retards out there calling those fights hard because they refuse to dust off Lucca.
>>720612591Her sleep spell works wonders against them too though I wouldn't blame anyone for not trying (I used it against the first golem as a hail mary because I didn't figure out its gimmick at the time though I got too unlucky with subsequent procs to beat it).
>>720529384Fused Jean in BoF2 is utterly amazing, but the downside is his base form is utter trash.
>>720608815I hated Jack. Annoying character, super squishy, all around crap.
>>720590351Doesn't Dogmeat also keep coming back with a perk?
>>720610315No. Speed is pointless.
>>720513904Making this fat, ugly bastard playable in FE10 was one of the best decisions IS ever made.
>>720529384Cray is technically better than Garr but comes at the cost of being too well rounded for the GRUG SMASH role. He just winds up never hitting as hard as he should and casting magic weaker than everyone else. Add to that that BoF4's combo system means his slow speed is a liability because it means he's always dropping your combos and you just wind up with BoF4's weakest dude. Poor Cray, his life is suffering.
>>720614060>Poor Cray, his life is suffering.If he got to murder Yuna things would have been better.
>>720613881objectively he's not a good unit but I use him anyway lol
>>720512969Bro is just like me frfr
>>720512969ENTERBENCHWARMER SUPREME
>>720614393Oh, he's godawful as a unit, but the fact that his pudgy ass sticks out like a sore thumb among the rest of the traditionally attractive JRPG cast of characters, almost every single line of special dialogue he gets from Ike begging him to go back to the enemy to pic related, the fact that almost everyone has unique supports with him in the horrendous disaster that was the support system IS tried, he's probably my favorite recruitable character in any Fire Emblem game.Also, this beautiful theme:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oopXymmft-4
>>720584680Teddie is usually the team member that does the most for support because of his unique access to Marakunda. It's effectively an additional 40% damage to all party members that stacks with Matarukaja, which he can also use. A pretty typical setup for Teddie is something like Bufudyne/Mabufudyne/Ice Boost/Ice Amp/ Mediarahan/Matarukaja/Marakunda/Evade Elec
>>720608409Yosuke's the 3rd best physical attacker, 3rd best magic attacker, and Masukujaka buffs the best attack in the game (Hassou Tobi's accuracy goes from 70% to 98% under Sukukaja). Since a few bosses have a hidden resistance to physical, he's probably the only party member that's equally useful against the final boss and the secret boss.Brave Blade is also just a really good skill; given equal stats, 2 Brave Blades does 90% the damage of a Mind Charged, Boosted, Amped X-Dyne spell. He actually outdamages Yukiko with it if she doesn't get Mind Charge from bike rides.
>>720536610To be fair most of the floors pale in strength compared to Geb, Binah, and especially Yesod.
>Take Watt>Have her do less damage>Only allow her to attack the front most enemy>Remove all of Watt's buffs and replace them with inconsistent status, stealing in a game where enemies having items is rare, and a horribly overpriced heal.Genuinely have no idea why they made her so bad.>
>>720609442Double sap and blunt is very useful in situations. He learns multiheal before Serena. Very useful in Act 1 and 2. Post game he has no use but you can say the same for Jade and Hendrick.
>>720614393Once you see his dialogue with the various bosses and hear that blissful combat theme, you stop giving a shit about his viability.https://youtube.com/watch?v=oopXymmft-4My FE armies are built on vibes, not stats, and by that metric he is an easy S tier.
>>720616870Third best means he'll never be used.
>>720620951Depends on what you're trying to do - Yosuke outdamages Kanji's Power Charge Primal Force and Chie's Power Charge God's Hand against any boss with a hidden physical resistance, which means the highest damage party in those situations is Yukiko, Teddie, and Yosuke (unless you give Naoto her Ice Boost weapon, and Ice Amp accessory, and a bike ride for Bufudyne). For longer fights, where Hassou Tobi's 70% accuracy is an issue because you'll miss, his Masukukaja is responsible for about 25% of the damage the protagonist is doing. And if Yosuke's boosting the protagonist's accuracy, that means you're not wasting protagonist turns with Masukikaja or Heat Riser. You can partner Yosuke with pretty much any two other party members, and he'll be doing something useful.
>>720605327i already used idun in the creation story, so i played with tao instead because i liked that they give you teammates this time. tao was really good, better than yoko for me
>>720606689After you beat the game characters have to be broken so you can maneuver through the castle. Only one who wasn't was Richter in SoTN but thats mostly because its the first time they did it.
hes never useful
>>720584020People that bench Mallow are indisputably idiots. Like someone already said, he has AoE AND can heal. You may not use him at the final boss but you sure as hell will use him throughout most of the game.
>>720605327idun was too cute for me to use, she deserves to hop around freely instead of dying in battle
>>720614720>actively benefits your team more by not being on itThey knew
>>720621582>Joins after you've already gotten a comfortable team going>One of the first to leave so you're not "stuck" with him like you are with CieloDude just never has a chance to shine.
>>720584905>I'll just put the easiest guy to turn into a powerhouse on the bench
Calling any character a "bechwarmer" shows a gross misunderstanding of the genre. Just as complaining about Cait Sith's demise shows a gross misunderstanding of its purpose or crying "dey killed Crono" shows a gross misunderstanding of the basic plot of Cross.
>>720512969I'd say she's a benchwarmer but that would imply I'd ever recruit Sera in the first place. Fuck this cunt
>>720627876Isn't that Freya?>kill like four dragon type monsters>guaranteed 9999 damage skill that nothing is immune to
>>720512969Cyan - his abilities takes too much time to come out you'd better off just doing attacks or spells.
>>720628448She's easy to set up too, but those 9999 abilities are all busy work. For Amarant his 'killer' abilities are all cheap to learn because you get him late. Throw on MP attack and you're set. On top of that he's got revive and healing abilities too, as well as throw which can also be strong.I get he's a dull character and he comes far too late into the story, but he's really being slept on for how useful he is in battle.
>>720628017>a gross misunderstanding of the genreSome characters are just dogshit, anon.
>>720516235In my first playthrough he was the only one left at the end of the bald angry man fight and almost died in one hit every time. His agi didn't count for shit and I lost. Couldn't get anyone else revived.
>>720517987Dicsount Auron was the only way i made him viable, anything else just don't werk.
>>720522926Sometimes a game will have a temporary character that would be nice to keep permanently. Sometimes a permanent character is better left as a temporary party member. He fits very neatly into the latter.
>>720621605For replays, I benched Mallow pretty much permanently after I got Peach. Bowser never got off the bench at all.
