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Do you love bilewater?
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bug pussy
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pug bussy
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I haven't finished the bullshit Karak gauntlets yet but this definitely implies that the whole of Pharloom used to be underwater right?
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Where the fuck are the elder pilgrims and vomiting pilgrims in act 3
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>>720522246
Go where the dice nigga used to be in act 1.
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>>720522093
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>>720521664
>hookshot
what the FUCK? I keep looking at the entire map looking for little clues where I could progress and there's a pile of shit i completely missed. I'm floored
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Reward looks pretty meh.
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>>720522221
Pharloom is apparently on an island.

So the sands of karak was probably submerged at soome point or at least right next to a vibrant coast yes.
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>>720522328
Welcome to Silksong.
There are no fucking rewards.
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???????????????? alright well fuck you too dude. What's another 10 minute runback through blighttown, I guess I'll just go fuck myself.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traumatic_insemination
with Lace
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>>720522428
beast moment
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>>720522371
>>720522328
I use the tool I got from that boss every time
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>>720522431
This entire line ruined everything about Hollow Knight for me. Look at her. Look at her succulent curves and tell me this wasn't specifically designed to elicit arousal. Tell me this isn't bait to make you desire used goods. Team Cherry is full of cucks. Every single one of those australian fucks played us for fools, making sure to design the sexiest creatures known to man, only to be met with the gut punch that they're used goods with gaping vaginas taking black cock every single day. I can't imagine the state of all Hornetfags out there who have actual standards, the hurt they must be feeling knowing their wife wasn't saving herself for them. The chinese review bombing wasn't enough. We need every possible language to review bomb these dirty fucks for taking away the purity of our bug wife. I will not be able to sleep until this justice has been undone. Make them patch it out. Make them listen to the fans for fucking once.
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>>720522321
Post map, I'm pretty sure you can't get far in act 2 without the hookshot and its not really hidden iirc
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>>720522328
The boss fight is your reward
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>>720522428
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>>720522093
>they added a fucking poison swamp area
guess they finally played dark souls
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>>720522527
based
Can't wait for pantheon.
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What the fuck is with the Cogwork Core platforming
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>>720522503
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>>720522543
There are 3 poison swamp areas, Anon.
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>>720522452
Just cum in some silk, its the same effext.
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>>720522428
OUT FUCKING SKILLED
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>>720522093
Do any NPCs have unique dialogue like Shakra if you leave Bilewater with AIDS?
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>>720522428
SEVEN
YEARS
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>>720522527
Mayne the real treasure are the boss fights we fought along the way.
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>>720522591
Miyazaki is smiling down on them
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>>720522658
The doctor in Greymoor tells you to walk it off.
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Bros... there have been some mistakes
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>man, this boss is too hard for me, I'll come back later
>man, this boss is too hard as well, I'll try something
>man, this encounter is a pain, I'm not having fun here either
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>>720522567
...I can't tell if you're a different guy fucking with me or if you can really do all 3 songs and presumably the final boss without the hookshot. Goddamn.
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How am I supposed to fight him through all the tears?
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>>720522658
I'd imagine so, there's quite a few who comment on getting pregged with the twisted bud.
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>>720522765
<hunted
Bot fixing it
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>>720522765
shit format, take it back to where you found it.
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>>720522564
Clockwork Core and Nameless Town aren't even bad. I was a little disappointed by the lack of grueling platforming gauntlets.
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is there anything special to wisp thicket? first time I got there I was like "woahhh I haven't seen anyone mention this area" and then I explored all 5 rooms in it
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>>720520591
I just pogod her into oblivion with wanderer and when she was doing the aoe your LT is enough to get out of reach.
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>>720522543
They played DS2 and thought that The Gutter leading straight into Black Gulch was the coolest thing ever
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>>720522905
Nope.
>boss
>flea
>uh...
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>>720522290
He one-tried Moorwing post-patch. They went too far with the nerfs.
https://youtu.be/-BJR6xD9TP0?t=2187
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>>720522905
Collectibles and fire dudes.
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>>720522937
I beat them before the patch
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>>720522928
>>720522939
what a shame. it has a cool aesthetic but it feels like it was added to the game like a week before release
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>>720522937
What did they nerf for the bosses? Health or damage?
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>>720522905
An annoying boss.
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>>720522908
maybe wanderer can get a couple hits in, with hunter and witch i didn't have enough time and would consistently get clipped right at the edge
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Alright
Enough of this
Give me your BEST HK&SS memes
NOW
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>of the White Wyrm
HOW MANY WYRMS ARE THERE

NOT JUST THE BLACK WYRM
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>>720522806
unless you mean R1, I thought he was talking about some other upgrade. but for real I feel like picrel stuck in act 2 while you all are talking about act 3
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can anyone explain what the nerfs ACTUALLY DID
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>>720523036
There were probably alot idk
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>>720523036
Only 1 so far, the Pale King.
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>>720523035
this became real once you get the dash
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>>720522818
Yeah nvm there's a shortcut AND the boss was free as hell
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>>720522428
>using the Reaper crest without accounting for the attack delay

Please learn how to use a crest before you take it into a dangerous location. I hope you had a silkeater.
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>>720522937
What did they even nerf here?
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>>720522985
yeah a lot of areas feel like afterthoughts
sands of karak is this bigass platforming puzzle area and it contains 1 charm, 1 reused asset boss, and 1 quest item
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>>720522868
>Spoiler
I did rage there. It's not that bad but I noticed how bad my fucking controller actually is.
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>>720523063
I assume they lowered their health and or the amount of hits it takes to stun
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is the steal money hook charm just broken? When I tried it it lowered the amount dropped by enemies and didn't steal anything
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>>720523094
Have you fought Karmelita yet? If not you're in for a fun time.
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>>720523036
They're referring to the Pale King.
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>>720523036
that's the pale king
>>720523084
there were more than one, the blackwyrm is mentioned by ogrim iirc and bardoon taks about wyrms like they're an extinct species
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>>720523094
I was honestly expecting some sort of phase change in that boss where he does at least double the coral spawns, faster and more randomly. But it was just a stupid gimmick fight. Honestly, I dare say, one of the easiest bosses in this whole game.
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>>720522428
>Reaperfag
Couldn't be me
Where my ArchitectGODS at?
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>>720523036
There's the White Wyrm, the Pale King, and mention of the Battle of the Blackwyrm, but nothing else.
But as higher beings you've then got Grandmother Silk, The Radience, Unn, and the dead gods from the Land Of Storms that the Godseeker is looking to replace.
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>>720523274
Slugcat?
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>>720522868
im glad i swapped back to hunter/default
reaper just lacks so much more than you realize
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>>720523282
hunter or bust
this is a HUNTER game
the dive is a pain in the ass honestly but its fun
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>>720523163
>Karmelita
Her and Lost Lace are honestly the only hard bosses. At least the amount of tries that I needed for those two exceeds the others quite a bit.
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>>720523307
Grimm/The Nightmare Heart
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>Land of Storms is a shithole
>City of Iron is a shithole
>Pharloom is a shithole
>only Hallownest had a real golden age

PALE KING

KEEPS

WINNING
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>>720523274
there's only room for one bug-themed metriodvania
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>>720523392
>City of Iron
Do we know anything about that place yet?
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>>720523353
Same. They're the only bosses that took me over a half hour to beat. And they both took me over 4 hours each.
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Aside from meme games like "I Wanna Be the Guy" is in the top 10 hardest games ever?
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>>720523392
my FUARKING hero
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>>720523114
Hmmm yes I will be sure to account for attack delay next time I'm fighting a glitched invincible enemy, that will help
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>>720522328
You don't feel that pride and accomplishment?
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Should I play Hollow Knight first?
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>>720523392
Those other cities? They don't have what it takes. It's the White Wyrms burden to build the largest saw factory the land will ever see and export its gift to uplift other civilizations
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>>720523059
Oh lol, yeah right trigger is the hookshot.

>>720523392
The coral niggas seemed to be having a good time before global warming got to them.
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>>720523392
Pale Man's burden
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>>720523419
>totalitarian shithole
>people who step out of line get marked for death
>is a kingdom that apparently learned how to control or harness void encased in steel
>the Masters might be related to void
>they send out assassin across the world to kill other bugs that use void
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>>720523454
Definitely not. I'm bad at video games and crushed this. Maybe 3 bosses that gave me issues in total.
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>>720523484
Definitely.
The basic bitch White Palace is an harder obstacle course than anything in Silksong.
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>>720522543
poison swamp areas are the best kind of area
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>>720523307
>Forgettable about Bardoon
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>>720523454
>>720523548
Yeah dont get me wrong Silksong is above average-ish in difficulty for a mainstream game but there's wy harder out there.

I actually think Hollow Knight's base game was too easy. Silksong is just right.
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>>720523282
Architect is second best (charged dive sucks for exploration and combat). Everything else on it is indeed godlike

Hunter is top
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>>720523458
I'm a retard and didn't realize what was going on in that webm
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I'm not fully 'hip' and 'with it' about Hollow Knight lore, but to be clear:
The Godseeker is 95% schizo declaring every oversized grub he sees a god, right? Sometimes he's genuinely right (Radiance, Grimm (kinda)) but mostly he's just pulling domains out of his ass.
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>>720523392
>>720523515
Why does everything tie back to the void
Is it like the ancient aliens of the game
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>>720523631
Silksong needed more platforming stuff. Cog Core was fun but it didn't go far enough if you ask me.
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>>720523351
The Pale King was an Architect, he built the last and only civilized kingdom in all of bugkind using nothing but charisms and buzzsaws. A filial daughter would honor her noble father's legacy by carrying Cogwork Wheels and seek to improve it by bringing Cogflies and Tacks at the same time. You deserve to be VOIDED with the other failsons. If you are lucky the good son will let you stand behind him with glowing eyes.
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>found Architect Crest
Hmm, I guess it's easy game crest. I wonder how good it is against bosses.
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>>720522868
>beastfag
I kneel
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It's over...
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>Return to bilewater stronger
>two more masks than before
>greater silk capacity
>anti maggot charm
>new ruinic spell
>It still takes 5 minutes getting to the boss room
>The enemies are acting unusually aggressive this time, and spitting multiple times before hiding
>this throws me off my game, and I make multiple mistakes
>die to the fucking spitting dudes
This would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
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>>720523489
>build the largest saw factory the land
I'm so sick of this meme. The spikes and buzzsaws are clearly a gamified metaphor. It's a memory that the Pale King hid deep within his dream and guarded as best he could. There wasn't literally a giant room filled with spikes and buzzsaws in his castle. It's just the closest way to approximate navigating the dreams of another using game mechanics the player can actually see an interact with.
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So what's up with the unnamed town at the top of the Cradle, anyways? Is there any lore to it? All I found was a momento.
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>>720523779
Did ya consider getting the other Bench?
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>>720523704
Climb up the Cradle. There's that at least.
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>>720523307
>land of storms
i forgot about that shit kek
what a complete nothingburger
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>>720523790
Play the needolin.
They are early Silk worshippers.
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>>720523782
yes but the other thing is funnier
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>>720523782
You sound like a man who doesn't appreciate a good wall of saws.
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>>720523458
>glitched invincible enemy
That reminds me of my second lava escape where a skullwing temporarily had no collision, so was forced to completely die.
Fuck that whole sequence made me rage, the amount of times in this game where I've double jumped off a wall.
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>>720523790
>momento
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I got the sub-5 hour clear today, very happy with it

I'm happy to share my route or any tips if you guys want any
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Well see ya later comfy bros. Definitely my GOTY at the moment but I'm not about to start a Steel Soul run and all the bosses I want to re-fight are dead.
It's been fun, I look forward to talking to some of you about video games in the future again. Now I'm off to start Like a Dragon: Pirate Yakuza in Hawaii that I bought on sale the day Silksong released but I haven't even started.
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>>720523806
It was kinda mid honestly. Kind of just the same jumping gimmick on repeat where you hookshot air-jump after. It took me a few tries sure but I'm really bad at video games so that doesn't mean much.
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>>720523790
>they sense the presence of Grand Mother Silk calling to them
>pilgrimage to Pharloom
>but they're traveling on the surface, so when they get there there's nothing left for them to do but settle and starve to death

tl;dr unlucky
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>>720523685
Because it's a parallel to the real life concept of chaos. Where eveything is melted together into a swirling mass with not identity of its own. A lot of atories reuse this concept. There is usually some inciting event where something from the chaos takes form, and with it comes the creation of the world. The devs are just doing that old story
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>>720522908
To add on to this sometimes my LT wasn't enough but if you dash+LT or LT+dash as soon as she starts the aoe you'll always avoid it. The only attack that I had trouble avoiding was her retard flailing but she rarely did it. Once I got the LT+dash combo to avoid the explosion figured out she died cause nothing else is even an issue
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>>720523907
anon... you know the rules
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>>720523753
It's very strong with poison and tool spam, but say good bye to your shards if you haven't been collecting bundles.
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I feel so stuck in thjs game compared to hollowknight. Entire regions of the game are locked behind slapping a visually benign wall or going into an obscured upper corner of a room. I finally started referring to a map after retreading the game for hours looking for progress. I‘m trying to clear up act two, how I was supposed to find bilewater is a mystery to me. This game desperately needs some form of player guidance. Even something like an xray visor or power bombs in metroid. I didn’t have this problem at all in the first game. Just me?
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>>720523843
You know what? You've got me there.
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>>720523759
Hornet loves Hollow Knight. Not KEKight
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>>720523920
goodbye based video game player
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>>720523912
Did you need to do the third act as well for that ?
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>>720523912
>I'm happy to share my route or any tips if you guys want any
I'm interested, not sure I'll try to follow suit though. That new nightreign mode is calling to me.
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>>720523392
4 MORE YEARS
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>>720523805
Stop fucking with me. I'm at the closest bench. It's still a pain in the ass walking from that bench
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>>720523000
>>720523121
Ranged spinning claws attack used to be 2hit, so he would have died this run at 37:50
Otherwise this was a solid performance by him
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>>720522431
>>720522484
>Listen close, listen hard
>The tale of Hornet Silkregarde
>This public bike, she sees no wrong
>In takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', every dong!

>Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', every dong

>Her blown-out butthole flaps away!
>Her cunt gets wider every day!
>'Til, when she tries a human dude
>His BIG WHITE COCK rips her in two
>And that is why we plow her arse
>What's left of Hornet Silkregarde

>(Who's) Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', every dong
>Takin', takin', every dong
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>>720523912
How much HP did you have by the end of it? I at least know my route is going to be through Phantom.

Also, how the FUCK did you deal with High Halls? That's basically the "Watcher Knights" of the game in terms normal end threat.
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>>720524026
...So go the other way.
To avoid the maggot water, fall off the ledge, immediately throw your needle, then double jump.
Max 1 minute run to the boss.
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>>720523912
Think the route is pretty obvious. I assume you got the two nail upgrades but did you go out of your way to get a different crest?

>>720524004
Speedrun just requires an ending, so you just need to get the bad ending in Act 2.
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>last judge

game isnt fun anymore, haven't played it at all since getting to the boss, just begrudging doing it, dear team cherry, eat my asshole you niggershit faggots
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>>720523983
Not just you, it's pretty obnoxious but I like to wander around aimlessly so I stumbled into most things pretty easily.
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>>720524125
Good news, Anon.
LJ is optional.
But I'm not convinced you have what it takes to go the other way.
Also, fire bell charm from Forge Daughter.
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>>720522905
People who fail to discover it will lose their fucking minds trying to find that flea. I've seen it happen.
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>>720523912
i wish they would just add fucking godhome so i can practice and gitgud to reasonably attempt steel soul
there is no way i do 100% steel soul without hours and hours of practice on karmelita and lost lace
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>finally face off against the big bad herself
>opens with dramatic radiance entrance and cool design
>ends up crumpling even faster than her retarded daughter
you're telling me this retirement home resident is supposed to be in the same league as the radiance? She can't even muster the energy for a phase 3
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>>720523454
IWBTG is hard but not that hard
the real meme is Boshy
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>>720523779
when the boss does the suck you throw the bomb
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Is that one of the royalty? Is it supposed to be a spider or very big bug?
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>>720523282
>no silk skill
>worst down air in the game
>no knockback until last hit on each attack
>basic attacks moves you forward and can knock you off platforms
>he actually runs out of ammo

meanwhile we reaperkings get
>big dick attack range
>one of the best down airs in the game
>bind heals you AND produces more silk on hit
>kino shoryuken running attack
>knockback up the wazoo

for less DPS? just dodge better :)
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>>720524215
In terms of classical adventure platforming game, Boshy is up there, but you can't forget titles like Not Another Needle Game.
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>>720524114
It's about 1 and a half if you don't make any mistakes. I just ran it fairly well this time and glanced at the clock. But running it well takes an wffort. The enemies spawn in rng locations, and you have to do a bunch of pogoing
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>>720523035
Have some OC I made a while ago for my friends.
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>>720524125
You are bad. You could learn to get better but you are also a loser.
Go play the first game, there’s plenty harder than last judge to build muscle memory on. There’s plenty harder than last judge to come to don’t expect to fluke theough it and have a good time.
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>>720523671
iirc godseeker's logic was "if we invite all the powerful beings of hallownest to our home then eventually we'll get the god of gods."
which, unfortunately for them, was shade the lord.
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>>720524168
The other way is super comfy though.
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Got 3rd needle upgrade. Time to fight beast fly
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>>720524173
It happened to me. That one room in the Underworks signposts the area, but I wasted probably over an hour checking the Underworks and the tunnels above Bellhart.(since it's a giant bell).
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how many endings are there? I got bad end, trap ending -> save lace end
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>>720523392
Pharloom didn't have a golden age? Seems like they were quite advanced in tech and culture at one point. Were they haunted from the get go?
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>>720523912
Steelsoul status?
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>>720524097
I had 5 the entire time. I just had to git gud. I did it first attempt, though. But I did study a route first before I did it.

>>720524117
Yes, I grab wanderers crest, but I also save 500 Rosary for the Simple Key. I use it in Deep Docks to beeline for the Flintslate, which I firmly believe is the best subweapon in the game.

Flintslate + Wanderers attacks are fucking ridiculously strong. If you can chain 5-7 hits on a boss buffed with Flintlsate, you rip them apart hilariously fast.
Godmother Silk took about 60 seconds excluding the second phase transition.

>>720524176
I don't think Karmelita will count against your deaths, she's a dream boss after all, and I did steel soul in HK1 and none of the dream bosses count as a death.
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>>720524234
see >>720522428
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>>720524280
Or I could just not play this dogshit.
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>>720524213
Radiance had been building her power for a long time. Grandma just woke up. She's also more of the Hollow Knight of this game. Even gets tied up missing an arm just in case it wasn't obvious enough.
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>>720524114
>>720524221
I actually got two bombs in his mouth during my best attempt. the third time I tried to get a bomb in their, he ate me, and then the following events are murky, but he killed shortly after that
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>>720523392
Pharloom before the Weavers sperged out at GMS and she twisted the entire thing into a machine for keeping Lace alive might have been okay
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>>720524339
oh yeah, you're right karmelita is a dream boss.
still that leaves lost lace and with how much bullshit is in that fight i definitely need a dedicated way to practice her before i attempt it
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>>720524213
>the same league as the radiance?
bitch's title card didn't even flash the entire screen, ain't no one on the same level as hallownest's threats
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>>720524213
its easy so that you can get the cursed ending
ontop of that, she's been controlling an entire kingdom through her own silk and maintaining a child, yeah she's gunna be a bit drained.
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>>720524334
They never had a golden age unless you think the Weavers buildong the Citadel and putting Mother Silk to sleep is a golden age

The Weavers never tried to uplift other bugs
Pale CHAD did
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>>720524334
My understanding is as follows - Silk has a melty, surviving weavers put her to sleep and flee, pharloom gets built, bugs use silk as a panacea that makes them immortal, eventually Silk wakes up.
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>>720522093
Imagine how disgraced and ashamed she'd feel after that.
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>>720524385
All I can recommend is to bring spike traps.
Those things do a fuckload of damage.
Once he starts spewing magic, you can dump one every time he comes up easily and he should die.
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So what's up with this unused(?) ending in the files anyway (spoilers)
https://youtu.be/J4QB1wB88t4?si=_n58_UYex2uQ5fI0&t=95
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>>720524349
never happened to me as I take advantage of the fuck huge hitbox to hit enemies from the other side of the screen
really, I got reaper as my 3rd crest and I'm still using it, just defeated the first sinner on like my 3rd try.
Maybe the hitbox is fucked in close range? dunno, shit works as intended for spacing the fuck out of everything
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>>720524329
Bad, AAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIDDDDSSSSS, Trap, True Ending.
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>>720524329
Three, technically four if you count the extra Mr. Mushroom cutscene. There's a secret ending for beating grandmummy while cursed.
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>>720524176
Karmelita is a dream boss right? And you can refight Lost Lace as many times as you want in your non HC save.
Fuck, I thought the acheevo was just for beating the game. I thought I only had to do until granny.
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>>720523035
2/3
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>cogs now only do 1 damage
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY
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>>720524385
If you can bounce on him with wanderer he kinda melts
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Streaking bug
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Can you imagine if Hornet was presented as a normal attractive female human instead of a bugspider thing?

The shit she gets put through in this game would put Team Cherry on a list. Silksong would have its own dedicated hour long ryona video.
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>>720523035
3/3
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>>720523724
Would PK be proud of Ghost?
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>>720523983
The amount of stuff hidden behind like that is just dumb. This game is frustrating to me, for every great moment or area there's some fuckass bit of game design that just makes me go ???????. It feels like they were designing with only the theoretical in mind, like they had some abstract ideas about runbacks and endurance tests, but what it actually ends up doing is ruining actual good content by tying it to frustrating bullshit. There's now multiple bosses and gauntlets that I should enjoy, but the only memory I have of them is being bored and annoyed at having to spend 10 minutes doing something else every time I fight them.
/rant.
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>>720523146
I tried it once and got the exact same amount despite attacking with nothing but Clawline. Raised an eyebrow and took it off. Probably bugged.
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The update pisses me off so much. I don't understand why they forced it on everyone instead of making a separate baby mode
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>>720524434
I think they built the city after the weavers put granny to sleep and fucked off as far as they could. Granted, their entire scheme was based on convincing the plebs to live forever so they could work endlessly for the glory of the Citadel, but they were pretty damn smart and built some cool mechas. Granny just decided to stop napping and it all went to shit.
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>>720524117
There are three ways to bypass the judge and get to act 2.
But for you anon there is a fourth path. Just quit the game because you suck and can't beat a boss with a very predictable and easy moveset. I would recommend gacha or visual novels since you have no reflexes and are probably a brown third world child.

Like how the fuck do you lose to one of the easiest bosses in the game the day they nerfed him, nigger.
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>>720524370
It sounds like it isn’t even an option for you so you may as well make peace with it. You’re missing out.
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>>720524448
from the first sinner cutscene I'm assuming Silk uplifted the weavers right? To be her top guys?
Then she wakes up and finds out they've all fucked off so goes about capturing whatever ones can be found across the world, which ends up including our hornet
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>>720524634
Why don't you burn yourself with lighters if you want to show off how much you enjoy hurting yourself.
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>>720524338
love this lil nigga like you wouldn't believe
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>>720524537
there's two steel soul achievements, one being "beat the game" which you can get by killing silk, and the other which requires 100%.
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>finally finished the flea festival
Fucking hell I hated the juggling. Nice reward, tho.
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>>720524682
>Call their shitty little faggot game what it is, bad
>They wish death upon you

Team Cherry cucks really showing their true colours.
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This fucking room...
I reached the boss only once. I don't even understand how to fight dart enemies.
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>>720524687
Here's how it goes:
>Mother Silk transforms bugs into Weavers because she wanted children
>Weavers built all kinds of shit
>Weavers realize that theyre fake and not her real children
>they get mad and betray MS
>MS made Lace and Phantom as real silk children as opposed to the weavers
>Weavers created a great contraption now known as the citadel to capture and put MS to sleep
>their strength faded because they betrayed MS
>the Citadel caste led by the Conductors took control of the Citadel and fucked the Weavers over
>they experimented on Silk
>they captured and milked the Weavers while the other ran away probably to Hallownest
>the experiments on Silk led to a situation that allowed MS to mindcontrol bugs
>she slowly got full control over Pharloom and the Citadel
>through MS's order they now hunted every Weaver across the world to take them back so they could feed silk to Lace to keep her alive
>queue the order to capture Hornet
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>>720523934
why is grand mother silk such a dumbass?
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Alright lorefags.
What is the Twisted Bud?
A parasite that is using Hornet to ascend to divinity?
Something worse?
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>thought the ghosts in the mist were invincible because they're already white and flashing white is how the game indicates damage, sound effect sounds ineffective too
>several tries getting mad going through playing the needolin while dodging them
>attack one relentlessly out of frustration
>it dies
Fuck me
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>>720524448
>>720524656
Pretty sure the Citadel was built while Silk was awake and the Weavers were still loyal. They eventually turned heretic and were hunted down and some fled. Silk went through a period of trying to make a new set of daughters out of pure silk and most of them didn't turn out right except Lace who still kinda resents being made. Seems she went looking for the Weavers mainly because they had some magic tech that even she as the being that uplifted them didn't possess and she needed it for Lace's sake or some other reason.
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>>720523779
>Fighting boss
>Actually avoiding getting hit somehow
>Recognize an opening
>"Alright, now's my chance"
>Confidently jump toward him for an easy strike
>His udle swaying just happens to move him toward me, as I'm moving toward him
>Cintact damage for 2 masks and I die.
Really....
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looks like that patch made a lot of the environmental hazards deal only 1 damage
good change desu
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>>720524715
>finished the flea festival
Until Seth decides to come and mog you
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>>720524634
just fall off platforms twice if it really bothers you
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>>720524715
>he doesn't know
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>>720524605
this is by far my favorite
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Next on the list, I did the speedrun on stream today and it was actually quite comfortable
Ironically I did Widow and Moorwing on my first try, but struggled with Last Judge the most out of the entire run. Lace 2 I had about 5 or 6 deaths to, but I locked in pretty hard and the rest of the run was smooth sailing.

My biggest problem during the run was actually getting lost a few times, I forgot where the Harpoon was and how to get to the Archivist's portion of the song, but everything else was smooth sailing. I was even able to cruise through the High Hall's waves of enemies pretty easily, which I was impressed and proud of.
I could probably manage a 2 hour run if I was really well-practiced.

Steel Soul I will attempt soon, I'm just deathly horrified of Last Judge and Lace 2 right now. Its a tossup between slamming speedruns on Steel Soul, or spending 20 hours on a single Steel Soul run and potentially losing all that time.
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>>720524691
challenge is fun FAGGOT
you'd be complaining too if it was dropped below your arbitrary threshold of not-falling-asleep gameplay. Problem is while you can get good to enjoy more challenging shit, you can't get bad to enjoy easy shit
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>>720523934
I think the game flat-out says that she DOESN'T exert any control on bugs that live above her.
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>>720524794
this shit is why i could never use wanderer crest until getting longclaw
too many enemies just bonk into you with their random movement when you go for the hit
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>>720524793
Perhaps Eve was the result of one of those experiments to enhance Lace? Or was she the result of the Weavers trying to figure out how to get rid of/seal granny?
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>>720524705
Oh well, I guess I'm kinda glad I decided against to do under 5 hours and steel soul together. Doing a semi thorough comb through on HC so I guess I can just readjust for 100%. I thought I only had Lace 2 and Silk left of my HC run.
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>>720524828
>speedrun
>last judge
>he doesn't know!
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>>720524867
Oh, you're right. Well I'm not going up there to check the sneedolin dialogue again, so it remains a mystery.
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>>720524861
It's not a challenge, you're just slamming your head against a wall until the wall eventually breaks down, to revel another wall to slam your head against.
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>>720524884
YEAH I KNOW I KNOW THERE'S AN ALTERNATE WAY THROUGH THE MIST
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the coughing baby is beating my fucking ass.
tips?
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>>720524802
Wait, what? I fucked off once I got the mushroom quest. What the fuck do you mean Seth?
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>>720524774
Be very patient and use charge attacks. Also if you haven't done literally everything else in act 2 just come back later, its not worth it.
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>>720524609
>Becoming the god of gods and dabbing on the radiance.
PK would be proud of all three hallownest sibs.
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>>720524875
Eva was an attempt to make an artificial Granny replacement I think.
Maybe the plan was for her to kill Granny like you do in the bad ending, but designed so it'd end better after she did. Who knows?
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>>720524828
I'll probably do the 5hr speedrun next then switch to Steel Soul and try to get hundo percento and speed complete on the same run. Yes I will be save/quitting like a coward on any fight that's looking bad but I actually think I understand most of the fights well enough that I won't have to use that much cheese.
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>>720524778
yeah this is pretty close to the events of the game
the only thing we dont know is when lace was made and when the weavers built the citadel but all of thay is for sure before gms got put to sleep

>>720524875
Eva seemed to be their failed attempt at making an artificial god
The weavers are fucking loons
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>>720524790
It's clearly GODWYN
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>>720524927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz1ca1-_-MY

and just run away when he does the shield slam explosion thing
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>>720524927
reaper
only use the pogo to attack
it may be tempting to punish his other attacks without pogo but don't do it he's designed to fuck you if you try to play fair
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>>720524991
>save/quitting on any fight like a coward
Anon I have very unfortunate news for you.
I think they delete your save if you Alt+F4 during bossfights now. There's no cheesing Steel Soul anymore.
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>>720524992
>The weavers are fucking loons
Clearly, as evidenced by Hornet ending up with like 4 different souls/bugs in her shell Just like Samus
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>>720525046
Can't you just back up your save?
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I went back and watched the first Silksong trailer from years ago and it's crazy how much of the game looked finished. I wonder how the fuck it took 6 years to release. It showed some stuff through the whole game including act 3
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>>720524936
Six Willy Seth, the six billion dollar bastard. He has move moves then men who have fucked your mother.
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>>720524778
? So it was the weavers/conductors fault that citadel polluted the surrounding areas? Wait, are all the incredibly shitty parts of fartloom not actually fully Silkma’s fault?
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>>720524778
so stitching silk into everyone for enhancements, which then even got passed down through generations, allowed MS to take direct control once she roused, that makes sense
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Groal wasn't that bad, beat him second try, but I'm also not some retard who doesn't use my tools. I imagine I didn't see some of his attacks even.
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>>720525046
>I think
And even if they did, you can just copy/paste or read-only your save.
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>>720525073
I uh, I have no idea. I only just learned the game autosaves today and you can pick between which of your autosaves to load.
Kinda crazy.
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>defeating Silk while being cursed
>being cursed means no tool nor heal
>some of the environmental attack like the rock drops can obscure the sword attacks
Man, this shit is just straight up annoying.
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Can someone explain how you get the Craw Memento? Is it just purely luck?
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>>720525046
I've probably done it 50 times in my save, trust me it's fine.
Save backups are easier than ever with the backup save system too; they don't get deleted when your run dies.
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>>720524927
He's always gonna follow his shield so don't get in between them. When he does that attack where he explodes he always follows it up with a standard charge so keep off the ground. I think he does the explosion 3x in a row in P2 before the charge.
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>>720524778
I'm still not convinced Lace, Silk, and Phantom are separate entities. If Silk controls all silk and they are made of silk then why would she have absolute control over them as puppets going through the motions of being their own person?
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I hear the main character gets impregnated with worms and stuff can anyone post video footage of this
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>>720525092
silkma seems like a pretty chill gal honestly
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>>720525152
Thats kind of shitty. I was hoping Steel Soul would be properly punishing this time around. Guess it doesn't matter if we all can just cheese it with 1 extra step.
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>>720525146
go to act 3
go to the belltown
rest on the bench
probably need to kill a shit ton of birds first and do the scarecraw quest
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>>720525129
You Clawlinin' bro? I hope you're Clawlinin'.
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>>720524790
No idea. I think its just how greyroot’s species reproduces. The bell guy says that many pilgrims did the rite, all carrying a grey and crying bud. They go to shellwood and never come back. Greyroot mentions that no bugs come by anymore, so she latches onto Hornet.
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>>720524961
>Also if you haven't done literally everything else in act 2 just come back later, its not worth it.
I think I did everything besides Citadel, Bilewater boss and courier stuff in Act 2. Did I miss Longclaw?
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>>720525129
I fucking hated how she'd hover over spikes and I had to wait since I didn't want to play super aggressive for obvious reasons. She's a cunt, I see now why her daughters fucked off.
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>>720525098
Yep. The bugs obsessively wanted power and experimenting on silk made them susceptible to her control.
>>720525092
The bugs of Pharloom are just all cunts. The higher caste/Conductors especially just wanted power and control.

But it's important to note that they didn't make a fake religion to control the masses. It's that this entire structure and system was built around the initial beliefs they had.
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>>720524609
No, being proud of a child killed his last one and doomed his kingdom.
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>>720524828
>I did the speedrun on stream today
Are you that anon that streams with their cock out?
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im finally done with the tutorial.
now to finally play the real game.
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So, in the end, what is the story of Silksong and Pharloom? I don't wanna wait for some fag on Youtube to post his hour and a half long video essay on it. Just give me the basic gestalt.
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>>720525258
Bingo.
I'm breddy good at videogames, I think. Everyone had a blast watching the run.
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>>720525194
i got it at the fleatopia bench
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>>720525175
Lace and Phantom are children Silk made because she got pissed that the Weaver betrayed her.

It's why Lace is a literal eternal loli. She was created to forever look like a child and have the mind of a child.
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>>720525046
You can still cheese it on playstation. I am in the middle of my Steel Soul run and I paused, and closed game like nine times this evening. Hell I beat the bell eater like two hours ago and I paused and quite because I had a bad run only to come back and beat it on the second try.
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>>720525103
It's poison balls, the suck, soul canon and a dive. Also can spawn temporary enemy waves and the spike ball trap.
Soul canon is pretty fucking cool, you should look up a video if you missed that one.
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>>720525294
>>720524778
basically infertile mom wanted daughters, secretly adopted some, they flipped out when they learned the truth and locked her in a retirement home
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>>720523782
>white palace was just a dream
Ok but if you die in there you actually die and have to collect your shade unlike other dream worlds implying that it's a real location
Also the white palace in hallownest mysteriously vanished one day, it didn't get destroyed
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>>720525046
I've save and and quit to menu a few times on my steel soul run now.
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GET FUCKED, BITCH!
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>Herrah flees Silk
>RADIANCE
fucking bug world
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how the fuck do you even get to bilewater
i beat act 2 without ever stepping in there
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>>720525225
>But it's important to note that they didn't make a fake religion to control the masses
Well of course. All higher beings seem to have a religion stapled to them. Except White lady for some reason, being important as she is
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>>720525294
See >>720524778
The added component here that haooensnin the game is that Silksong is a story about Hornet understanding herself and her nature as a demi-god as well as a story about motherhood.

It's why I personally think that EVERY Act 2 ending is bad. The only good ending is in Act 3 because as a story that's where Hornet's character arc gets resolved.
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>>720525440
>i beat act 2
you didn't
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>>720524794
ok, after 2 whole days of whining. I finally defeated the frog boss. But I want to complain about one last thing.
If a bomb is even an inch under the rim of his lip, it won't get sucked in. But Hornet standing under his lip? sucked right in without a problem. Bullshit
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question about the endings: how many can you do on one save file? I heard there are 5 of them
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>>720525420
I'm guessing you can only attempt that "once" per save file
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>>720525440
I beat the game without ever stepping in there.
Honestly my best decision.
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>>720524778
>>720524793
>>720524656
>>720524434
In act 3 now am I spoiling myself with this or is it all hidden info that my small brain wouldn't have understood myself. I had basically no idea what the fuck was going on at the end of act 2.

>>720525213
>Besides citadel
idk what exactly you mean by that. Basically doing Bilewater is only necessary after finishing Act 2 (getting the 3 songs and ascending the tower), unless you really want longclaw which imo is kinda mid.
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>>720525440
I remember falling down a vent in the vaults, I think it was a secret in a secret
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>>720522804
>man im having fun
>this arena is kinda unfun
>wow this runback to the arena is unfun
>wow this runback to the arena and now i have no shards is no fun
>id rather fight a boss right now

pretty much summarizes my time
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>>720525294
People have given their versions already but here's mine:

At some point in the very distant past, Grand Mother Silk came into existence. She is infertile, which she is very mad about. She uplifted the Pharlids to turn them into the Weavers. They served as her surrogate children. Pharloom became a very impressive kingdom, and the Weavers become its ruling caste.

Eventually, maybe due to realizing they aren't really her divine children, the Weavers got into some kind of dispute with GMS. As it became clear she wouldn't be able to stop her children from abandoning her, GMS made an artificial child, Lace, out of pure silk. Lace is insane, permanently a mental and physical child, and needs titanic quantities of silk to stay alive. Following GMS' desperate need to keep her baby alive, Pharloom's society gradually twists into a gigantic, oppressive machine for acquiring as much silk as possible. The Weavers leave for good at some point during this period, and lull GMS into a permanent sleep as a final fuck you.

Now GMS is waking up. She wants her kingdom back and is using the silk already woven into everyone's bodies to take control of them. She wants her babies back, so she's sending puppets to capture anyone in the world they can find with Weaver blood. Hornet is half weaver and half pale being; the ultimate prize. Then Lace realizes she is about to be replaced by a much cooler surrogate daughter and freaks out, freeing Hornet and setting her on the path to deposing GMS.
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>>720525068
>nine weavers
>an artificial weaver
>three silk hearts
>a piece of grandmother silk
>six separate natures from varying sources. including a machine, a snail shell, and a parasite
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>>720525498
All of them, but you can easily get locked out of the Cursed one and the bad ending is missable.
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>>720525129
It took me 6+ hours of attempts on and off while I was watching The International. The frustrating thing is, the boss isn't even that hard, it's just sometimes the attack lineups are cursed.
Make sure to use your clawline as often as possible, I think it outperforms what you can do with your whip. When you're dealing with her pin formation attacks if the last attack is a horizontal a lot of the time you can clawline through it (or with it, travelling in the same direction the pins are flying) to hit Silk while simultaneously avoiding the damage. In general I was trying to fit in 2-3 clawlines before each of her attacks. Try and stay in the middle of the screen, because if you're at the walls you're in more danger of being hit by the larger hitbox at the start and beginning of her sweeping claw attack.
Assuming you have double jump (I hope you do) avoiding her web attack is harder now that they've taken out the short float override. Before I beat her they applied the patch so I had to beat her the way you're going to have to so it is doable.
Last tip is something an anon told me which I had no idea, in her second phase if you two hit the spike plates she pulls up they'll fall back down. I made a point to do this every time she pulled them until enough of them were cleared that I had a good amount of room to maneuver, I lost a really close run when I was unlucky enough to end up in a situation where the entire center of the platform was taken up by spike plates and both sides of the platform had falling rocks so I had nowhere to reset while she was doing a pin formation attack.
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Does the Huntress show up anywhere in act 3? Clearly her children are out there now. Did she get eaten?
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>>720525473
>Hornet's character arc gets resolved.
>embraces the world of strength
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what do i bring this asshole in the bell caravan house?
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>>720525498
all four endings can be done as long as you don't miss the two missable ones, which are regular bad ending and cursed ending where you beat the final boss while gimped from a cursed item. there are technically five "ending" cutscenes, but one of them leads into the third act and isn't its own ending.
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This is the best game I've played in years
unparalleled levels of KINO, and this segment just barely started
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>be weavers
>find out youre adopted and decide to lock up your “mom”
>try to create another goddess
>fail
>try to create another goddess
>fail
>try to
lol faggots
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>>720525303
I just don't understand how you got started or the type of person who pays you. It's been nagging at the back of my mind.
Do you ever get hard? It almost sounded like it wasn't even a sexual thing the last time you talked about it.
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>>720525665
Super AIDs.
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>>720525576
>needs titanic quantities of silk to stay alive.
I've heard multiple people say this, where is this hinted at?
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>>720525665
Somebody with something twisted inside, truly nasty.
You'll know when you know, it requires moving forward a kind of obtuse quest.
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>>720525665
you'll know it when you see it.
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What's Eva's dialogue if you visit her while cursed? I heard she flips out.
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>>720525690
Oh yeah I do, I mean, it's apart of the content I do. It depends on the game and what everyone's excited to watch.
Plus there's donation incentives for lewd stuff, and that stuff directs the flow and focus of the stream.

Its all about tailoring it for the viewer experience. Its the interactive nature of all of it. People like talking to you during it. Making requests and such, things like that.

How I got started? It's just fun, I have a good look for it, and where I am currently, I'll probably be able to quit my job soon and do this full-time.
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>>720525576
>Hornet is half weaver and half pale being; the ultimate prize
I forgot, how does her pale being side make her special again? The ability to ascend?
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>>720525605
>>720525671
I'm guess it's like hollow knight where when you load the file after an ending it starts you outside the final boss and you can then do what you need to do in order to get the other ending(s)?
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>>720525440
There's an entrance in Sinner's Road that I blinded multiple times, I think even after getting the map.
There's also a way in through Putrid Ducts, but I think you're less likely to come through there.
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>>720525682
>give up and negotiate a dicking from the pale CHAD
>succeed
from perseverance comes victory
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>>720525231
Hallownest was already doomed at that point. Ghost did the one thing that even PK couldn't do, actually deal with the Radiance.

If anything Ghost gave Hallownest it's one chance to rebuild. PK should have put some effort into researching the dreams to make a pseudo dream nail and then trained either Hollow or Ghost into the ultimate Radiance murder machine.
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>>720525678
>Draygon, good ending
kino indeed
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>>720525730
Lace's journal description. I might be overstating honestly; that other anon's thoughts about weaving it into bodies might be a better explanation for the silk greed
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>>720525485
Yes he did retard
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>>720525814
Her silk is stronk.
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>>720525576
>Then Lace realizes she is about to be replaced by a much cooler surrogate daughter and freaks out, freeing Hornet and setting her on the path to deposing GMS.
Yeah and the real irony here is this.

Grandmother Silk deeply loves Silk like her own child. She literally just uses the Weavers as silk sources to keep Lace alive. And she puts out an order to capture Hornet to have another better source of Silk.

But Lace misunderstands this and thinks she's finally being replaced so as a last act of rebellion she puts into the motion the events of the game by freeing Hornet.
Which is why the ending of Act 3 is so important because it cements the fact that all Grandmother Silk wanted was to save her child.
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>>720525576
I don't think it's just Lace by herself that necessitated that much silk-harvesting. It seems like Lace and Phantom are just the last two of what was once probably a large number of them and the mist banshees are what's left.
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>>720525636
If you don't finish the quest before act 3 she fucking dies because her babies hatch and eat her. There's one runt left that you can give the meat for the longclaw. It's actually pretty cute but I still felt bad that I failed to save the mom
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>forgot about the beastfly and now it's a void nigger
fucking why
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Where did the hermit guy under Belhart go? I was told I need to talk to him to find a way to relieve the stupid curse.
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>>720525849
>no bilewater
YDBTA
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>>720525814
Her father is an actual god while her mother is an ascended bug.
That makes her unique among all weavers.
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>>720525918
you dont have to, just go up to >>720525665
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>>720525823
Pale King was fucked because his only research was ass. There’s an arcane egg in silksong that says ‘Void…No Will…’ or something like that, the only thing that could be read.
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https://files.catbox.moe/70x1qj.mp4
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>>720525946
Oh, okay then.
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>>720525913
I completed the quest and the hut is empty. I suppose she fed them and fucked off along with t hem. Good for her.
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>>720525854
Lace is actually the worst fucking character in the series, what a complete, irredeemable piece of shit
why the fuck hornet felt the need to save her I have no idea
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Done. It was fun roaming around and finding stuff, leaving the final fight for the end. I will take a break before trying a steel soul run.
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>>720525870
>>720525576
>>720525854
wait wait wait is that why the final title screen for silksong is hornet and lace's pins together?
hornet becones lace's permanent silk source and hornet gets an eternal daughtterwifefriendrivaltjing?

so the fucking yuritroons were right all along????
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>>720525854
>all of the events of the game could've been avoided if people just fucking spoke to each other before acting
guess thats what makes it a tragedy, i suppose.
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>>720526045
You can't wife a doll, silly.
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>>720525854
>all Grandmother Silk wanted was to save her child
Yeah but that caused innocent people to die and suffer. It is a nice inverse however to the Pale King; letting his children suffer for the safety his kingdom.
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>>720525915
>all the spawns are void too
I really should've done this in act 2
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>>720526025
To be fair to Lace she was conceived to be a perpetual mesugaki. It's literally in her nature to be a little shit.
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>>720525954
Arcane Eggs are confirmed in HK as being basically impossible to read because nobody knows the trick.
>>720526025
Hornet doesn't give one half of two fucks about Lace herself. She's trying to save Pharloom and just recognizes that the reason it's getting fucked is because Granny is protecting Lace down in void hell and sending the black goo up to the surface.
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>>720526025
Because she’s just a child, at least to Hornet. Hornet believes every child deserves a second chance to grow properly and not getting raped in the Void. That’s honestly the only reason I can think of.
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>Granny creates the weavers (all female)
>Phantom (female)
>Silk (female)
Bitch did NOT want a son
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>>720526025
honestly hornet's mainish reason for saving her was to save pharloom
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>>720523282
>architect
You can't beat the game.
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man, how did i manage to miss doing trobbio this late. i missed a fuckin nail upgrade on the way to it.
here i was wondering why the fuck everything sucks so bad and its because of shit like this.
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>>720525870
>pale king based his mass-Homunculi creation project on an endless and otherwise useless source of power, all in order to protect the kingdom
>GMS burned through tons of expensive, valuable material to enable her flight of fancy
PK wins again
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>>720525262
Yeah, go to act 3
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>>720526086
Yep thats why I turned around on Silksongs story after stewing on it a bit. It's basically an inversion of No Cost Too Great. Except instead of saving the kingdom it's about saving her children.

Very kino.
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>>720526138
Male spiders exist only to inseminate females then get eaten afterwards
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>>720522093
>Fighting Bilewater boss yesterday
>Getting pissed at the walk back even with the secret bench
>Boss smacks me into the left side corner
>Start to get upset I have maggots again
>Realize I'm off the screen and can't get back into the arena
>Try platforming everywhere, suddenly screen shifts left and I'm past the boss room
>Door to boss is locked, so go through
>Unlock the shortcut, explore a bit of the area above it
>Unlock the bench next to that NPC that wants you to hunt for her
>Boss is 100x more tolerable now since the run back is maybe 20 seconds with no enemies

I realize hours later I could have opened that shortcut up by going through Memorium first and making my way through, but goddamn was that a miracle for my sanity. I saw so many people complaining about the boss for a while and didn't understand the issue since, while annoying, Bilewater didn't seem so bad. But imagining having to make that trek every single time on top of the gauntlet just to fight the boss and lose an attempt in under a minute would drive me insane.

Game's fucking awesome, but holy shit what were they thinking. I'm a crazy person that loves sinking dozens and dozens of hours into these kinds of games. I can't imagine how a normal person would play this.
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>>720526025
>eternal child throws a tantrum
shocking
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>>720526112
>Arcane Eggs are confirmed in HK as being basically impossible to read because nobody knows the trick
Yeah for us (ghost) and relic seeker homosexual. Otherwise where would Pale King get this nonsense about void having no will and mind or whatever
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this has the worst flying enemies i've ever seen in a metroidvania.
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>>720526197
>>720526086
unironically turned me around on PK too
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>>720526202
However
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>father figure monarch does everything he can to save his kingdom and a moment of emotional paternal weakness fucks everything up
>female figure monarch is emotionally unstable and does everything entirely for her children the same way Radiance was pissed that the moths forgot her

What did team cherry mean by this
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>>720526197
>the father sac'd his family to protect his kingdom
>the mother sac'd her kingdom to protect her family
what did team cherry mean by this
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>>720526232
>I can't imagine how a normal person would play this.
they get gaslit into thinking they are the problem, they suck, get gud etc so they keep trying and eventually quit and realize the fanbase are a bunch of dicksuckin mouthdroolers who dont know a real metroidvania when they see one.
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>>720526339
>>720526319
lmao
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hold on I'm bad at combat why am I in act 3 fuck fuck fuck
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>>720525806
Interesting, still don't quite understand the appeal of it but guess that just means I'm not the target market.
I doubt long term how long it would last but streaming as a whole is pretty fickle anyway. Maybe exposing that much of yourself would make your audience more understanding of changes over time. Make sure you eat right, exercise and don't push your body too hard. Good luck out there.
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>>720526363
It's ok to be bad, anon
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>>720526307
TTTT_TTTT
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>Hornet know has to let Lace suckle on her silk from now on

What the fuck.
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And that's a wrap
I think we can safely say that Metroidvanias have been solved
I can't wait to see what genre Team Cherry will render obsolete next
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>>720522328
just like elden ring
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wow the beast crest sucks
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How the hell were you supposed to figure out the puzzle at the top of the cog heart? I just had to look up the answer at the end.
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I beat all of Act 2 with the reaper crest because I thought it did more damage since it was slow... I also didn't get double jump because I forgot about the rings there. Fuck, I'm stupid. What is even the point of reaper crest if it does the same damage per hit?
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>>720525823
Given that the Pale King set up a dream version of his own palace inside the mind of a corpse AND put super special dream protection on it and also a big part of his plan involved hiding the locks to the Black Egg inside the dream realm, he 110% had at least as much mastery over dream tech as we the player did. For whatever reason he just didn't consider beating the Radiance's ass to be a viable plan. And it probably wasn't for him because beating her involved a lot of help from void tentacles and Siblings.
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>>720526413
I appreciate it.
This isn't a long term strategy, just one that makes me a shit ton in the short-term. The real advantage of this is that it leaves me with a ton of spare time to work on gamedev with my bf.
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>>720526025
it was disappointing to fight lost lace and then have her asspull her way into surviving. complete wet fart of an ending, and there's not even the sequel hook excuse because lace is completely dependent on hornet to not keel over and die from lack of silk.
she had absolutely no character arc and didn't deserve to live.
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>>720522428
kek
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>>720526232
>Boss smacks me into the left side corner
>Start to get upset I have maggots again
>Realize I'm off the screen and can't get back into the arena
>Try platforming everywhere, suddenly screen shifts left and I'm past the boss room
Did you somehow damage boosted past the boss?
So you didn't beat him at the end?
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>>720526458
It was pretty intuitive, imo.
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>>720526448
it's decent in boss fights and some gauntlets.
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>>720526458
Make the lines match up and some trial and error.
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>>720526458
i just spun them around until they lined up. There really isn't a puzzle there
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>>720526538
That's child grooming
(Hornet is doing the grooming)
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>>720526234
>be a walking money pit
>fuck over mom's plan to keep you alive out of misplaced jealousy
>generally seethe because your infertile mom handcrafted you
>then fucking backstab her out of spite
>be protected from voidhell by mom, dooming the kingdom in the process
>(laughs)
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>>720526458
The music note puzzle? You can't be serious bro... All you have to do is get the bottom 2 to line up and the rest is obvious
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>>720526538
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>>720526232
you can't come from ducts because the door to bilehaven is locked from the inside. even if you go through ducts you have to kill groal.
probably a neat trick for the act 3 ending speedrun though.
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>Hornet is alive and now has another demigod-like silk entity with her as a permanent companion
>the Knight and his bros are all alive just chilling in the void
>THK is probably back in Hallownest because this ending follow the Godhome end

BEHOLD

THE CHILDREN OF THE PALE CHAD

GODS OF THE NEW WORLD
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>>720526463
Baby mode pogo, and that uppercut dash if you really like it. That silk generation certainly could use a buff though it's so mediocre compared to the other crest abilities
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>>720526363
you are the problem, you are a crab in a bucket who wishes to drag everyone else down to your own mediocre level
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What new take on a boss do you wanna see in the DLC?
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>>720526481
>leaves me with a ton of spare time to work on gamedev with my bf.
You're going to have to make something pretty fucking good to make that work anon.
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>Kill a bunch of unborn children that you don't even think have minds or wills for the sake of your people.
>Doom your kingdom all for a hopeless struggle to save your artificial child. (Silk is outrageously lucky Hornet was willing to bail Lace out.)
I think PK was more reasonable than GSilk.
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>>720526690
Squids.
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>>720526319
>>720526339
what did anon mean by this
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>>720526437
They trademarked something called fearless fox a couple years back.
My guess is it's 2D Zelda, maybe an action game
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>>720526690
>First Sinner
>Phantom
>Grandmother Silk
>Last Judge
>Widow
They all deserve kino superboss refights.
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>>720526702
I have a pretty damn good laundry list of ideas.
We're starting with a small multiplayer project first, then moving onto gradually larger projects.
He and I provide quite well for ourselves, we've future-proofed things.
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this bitch randomly screaming in the abyss is annoying af
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>>720526690
phantom 2 electric boogaloo
second sinner
third sentinel
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>>720526660
The pogo with the wanderer crest is way easier. The reaper one has an annoying delay
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>>720526513
It pushed me into a corner that put me outside of the boss arena and locked me out. So I went to the bench up above it, sat down, came back and had to restart the fight. So I killed him, but I got the benefit of a closer/safer bench for the run back.

I still had to fight him another half dozen times since I'm trash, but I eventually did kill him. I'm in Act 3 now.
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>>720526681
Considering that the devs patched the game to make it easier when they had already made bank I think the people screeching git gud at every criticism are the problem
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>>720526690
it's strange, but canon is more attractive to me
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>>720526681
no its just a mediocre overhyped indie slop game for troon redditors who play a fake metroidvania.

its like sayin ninja gaiden 1 on the nes is good or the ninja turtle nes game is good. you guys are delusional as FUCK.
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>>720526690
THE GHOST OF HALLOWNEST
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>>720526538
>Shakra constantly calling Hornet a child and assuming the deep squat position to hold a conversation
The absolute disrespect but I still love her.
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>>720526645
Oh dang, alright, so I got super lucky then. I'll take it honestly. Maybe I cheated some of the experience, but that run back was hot garbage so I don't care too much.
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>>720525576
Because theocracy basically means...
A government...
By the weavers...
Of the weavers...
For the weavers...

But the weavers are retarded.
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>>720526648
it is definitely impressive that while pale king died, his kids are all souped up niggas that can probably bring any kingdom town to their knees if they wanted to
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What are Eva's requirements exactly? She said to com back to her when I've expanded my nature or something like that. Very vague. She upgraded my hunters crest, so I thought it had to do with crests? But I tried showing her other crests, and she doesn't react.
Hours later(just now) I return and she give me a bonus yellow slot. Then repeats her generic NPC line again. How do I get more from her?
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>>720526793
but its BIG and chunky, the wandered one is relatively precise
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>>720526759
>fearless fox
I feel like having a Zelda clone with a fox character would be a weird flex on Tunic
Starfox would be too on the nose
A 3D platformer maybe, but I feel like they've probably had enough platforming for now
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>>720526835
It's the gap

The gap is sex
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>some of the NPCs call hornet child while others call her an ancient being
???
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>>720526660
>That silk generation certainly could use a buff though it's so mediocre
I played through the whole game with Reaper and it was pretty fucking sick whenever I could get enough silk to entirely pay for the next heal.
I think it's good as is, it was never going to be used for speedruns.
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Y'know, I haven't seen much discussion about the little fact that Hornet was trained by Vespa

So what's the connection there? How did they come across each other? Clearly the memory is an old one, as Vespa is still normal size as opposed to the massive corpse shown in Hollow Knight. Why was it important to show this scene when the bee tribe completely shut itself off from Hallownest?
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When I beat the final boss in act 3, what happens with my save? Does it go into like, NG+, or does it just reload back to right before the final boss if I load that save? Just seeing if I can do the hunter journal later and beat the game now.
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What's *your* headcanon for what she has under the mask?
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>>720526932
Others see a loli
Others see ber true nature as an eternal loli

Simple as
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>>720526932
She looks young cause she's long-lived or possibly inmortal, I'm guessing it's an elf situation
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>>720526918
i, for one, welcome a flex on tunic because that game's endgame fucking suuuucks
>invisible DDR with no feedback on your fuckups.
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>>720526835
just means you have a taste for the exotic, anon
having your own taste is nothing to be ashamed of
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>>720526910
Pretty sure she means you have to use memory tokens to upgrade your crests, but no one's figured out exactly what the cut off points are.
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>>720526973
My headcanon.
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>>720526910
unlocking new crests my man
>but
don't care, that's the condition
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>>720526918
Well, what kind of games do the devs like besides Zelda 2 ?
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How are you supposed to fight Stilkin

I've killed exactly 2 and died to them 3 times
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>>720526950
TC expressed regret that they ran out of time to show the "child of three queens" thing they had planned for Hornet in HK so that's basically what the Red Memory is.
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>>720526932
Bugs who cant tell exactly what she is call her a kid/young. Bugs who know that she has higher being blood call her the ancient one or whatever.
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>>720526973
That's her skull, anon
Underneath is just a black mass, just like the knight
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>>720526950
That comes from from a VERY OLD lore idea Team Cherry had that was never expanded in HK. Hornet is basically the daughter of three queens.

It's why her name is Hornet and she uses a Needle. Because Vespa, the bee queen, was her mentor.
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>>720526804
There is some merit to git gud, some mechanics fundamentally are flawed. I do think any boss that summons mobs has a high chance of being an issue, since players tend to just evaporate the mobs with tools or a silk since interacting with them adds a ton of variance or unavoidable damage potential
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>>720526854
yeah, you didn't miss out on anything by not having to do the bilewater runback a bunch of times. don't worry about it.
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Is the parry the best silk ability? Having a generous iframe button seems way more useful than what the other spells offer.
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>>720526969
Just loads you in before the final boss. There's no NG+ in this game sadly. Would be fun to blast through the game with all the movement upgrades.
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>>720526950
we knew that in HK already, not that I remember how
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>>720526797
Ohhh that's really interesting. I'm almost sure that there's no way to get to that bench - before- beating him, but it's cool that they implemented these fail-safes
Just got into Act 3 myself too and so far it's amazing, have fun
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>>720526804
they nerfed a grand total of TWO bosses and an admittedly unfair environmental hazard, I don't think this is the 'big win' you think it is. I hate the whole 'git gud' bullshit getting parroted over and over again too but at some point you either have to improve, or admit the game just isn't for you. People who want a challenge should be allowed a challenge, why should we reward and celebrate mediocrity? I'm choosing to respond to you because your reply seemed genuine, the other guy is clearly just spouting as many buzzwords as possible for a reaction so he can feel free to scream into the void for all I care
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>>720522484
Sorry anon, she was always built to be raped by fat ugly flies and maggots. I hope you can find love again.
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>>720527074
She's not void like the knight.
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>>720527061
Throw projectiles wildly or charge a power attack and use it the moment they jump out of the water.
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>>720526932
Imagine you got to 19-22 years old, then any further effects of aging took decades to show up. That's basically how I view it. Due to her near immortality, she looks young but is possibly hundreds of years old.
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>>720527061
They can't aim up. Hope that helps.
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>>720527059
I know nothing about Ari's tastes but William grew up in a Nintendo household
A top down Zelda clone is probably the best bet, honestly
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>>720527105
couldn't tell you since I never fucking found it
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>play game normally
>barely have enough beads just to buy maps and unlock benches
>power farm for 10 minutes
>make more beads than I probably have in the last 5 hours
Absolutely retarded balancing.
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>>720527024
In general it was pretty bland, the manual being the only thing I found to be cool
However the puzzle behind it ended up becoming quite tedious to solve
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>>720527140
I assumed they still went through with void infusion at birth like the rest of the potential vessels to see if it worked. Hornet is markedly different, it's commented on by lots of different characters. It could just be that her father is the Pale King, but I think there is more to it than that.
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>>720527059
>>720527193
Their favorite games are Zelda 2 and Faxanadu
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Why was Pale King an absent father?
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>>720527059
I think Mega Man X was the first game to do the wall cling, so probably that.
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>>720527236
Zelda 2 definitely
Faxanadu must be one of Ari's favorites
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>>720527105
The dash is nice
Thread storm or whatever its called is all round pretty useful as a clearing skill
The parry's only flaw is the fact that if a boss is extremely mobile the damage it does whiffs
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do you need double jump to get to the top of cogwork core or am I just really bad? do you need double jump for any of the three melodies? still havent found the fucking double jump anywhere
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>>720527169
>possibly hundreds
anon, she predates the black egg temple. she was born before the fall of hallownest, which is long-dead and mostly forgotten by the time of the events of hollow knight. she's thousands if not tens of thousands of years old at that point, and we simply don't know how much additional time passed between then and silksong.
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>>720522431
people malding and making cuck jokes over this is really funny because if you were immortal or extremely long lived and your partner died of old age then of course you'd try to find someone else
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>>720527308
William's too

>https://www.nintendo.com/au/news-and-articles/the-metamorphosis-of-hollow-knight-with-team-cherry-aussie-developer-interview/
>The team was formed around a mutual love of classic adventure games like Zelda II: The Adventure of Link and Faxanadu, and a desire to build new adventures in the same style.
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>>720527283
Yeah there are clear Megaman inspirations in the movement
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>>720527067
>>720527076
>>720527113
I dunno how the fuck I missed that then. I guess I gotta replay Hollow Knight now. It'll be fun to see how it holds up against Silksong.
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>>720525507
You can attempt it infinitely until you get "cured."
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>oh btw needolin can open up secret doors teehee
HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO FUCKING KNOW THAT
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>>720527339
You don't need iirc
If you need it it's in a cold place sir
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>>720527105
It's good, but I'm still sticking with Silk Storm. When I found out that you can extend it by mashing the button, it became my go to for any boss stuns or groups of enemies. It does a shit load of damage, can clear groups/flying enemies easily, has great range to catch faster enemies, and is brain dead to use.

Also, when I tried parry for a bit, it didn't seem to do a particularly impressive amount of damage. A single Silk Storm outright killed most basic enemies, but the parry could take two or three and, of course, was a bit more dangerous to use. Definitely personal preference though.
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>>720527397
It was cut from Hollow Knight. We only knew this because the devs said it in an leddit AMA.
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>>720527105
Pale Nails is god tier if you're like me and accidently use skills instead of tools. Apparently Thread Storm can be extended if you mash it like cyclone slash and it can do crazy damage but I haven't tested it myself
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>>720527406
it opens literally four doors and none of them are secret
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Where the fuck is this bastard Nailsmith
"Great Wood'?
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>>720527406
what "secret" doors?
if you're talking about the weavenest doors it was pretty fucking obvious.
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>>720527431
The point of a parry isn't the parry itself doing tons of damage itself, it's allowing you to keep playing aggro. It's sort of ass against bosses that teleport a lot though.
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>>720527105
pale nails is objectively the best for nearly all situations, since it has extreme range and auto-aims. thread storm is also useful for certain fights though.
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>>720527494
Fleas, or Grubs?

Let's settle this right now.
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>>720527406
Anon you are literally forced to open a door with it when you get it
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>>720527406
There are harps next to those doors in the background, that's what tipped me off. That, and the doors have the weaver mask kind of thing on them.

What took me a second was figuring out that dead bodies and some little empty areas with silk strings near them react to the needolin as well. Lots of cool little lore from that since I realized.
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>>720527406
retard of the year
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>>720527406
>Giant weaver-themed doors with a musical motif
gee anon I dunno it's a mystery
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What's the feasability of Architect Crest + Plasmium Phial + Wispfire Lantern. Overdose for health regeneration and Wispfire Lantern uses the naturally generating Silk for passive damage. Might not be optimal since it hampers the ability to rebuild tools on the fly.
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>>720527571
grubs have actual consistent rewards for each one you find, and you can bank them for when you need them
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>>720527571
I guess the tiebreaker is that grubs IRL are at worst a lil gross while fleas IRL are demons.
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>>720527571
Grubs because fuck the flea minigames
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>>720527213
>try and make money
>make money
holy shit!!!
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I'm sorry I called you kike faggots. Maybe you guys are alright
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>>720527571
Grubs for rewards, fleas for how endearing they are. Being able to get a shit ton of geo and items every visit was awesome compared to the fleas basically being this mandatory thing for Act 3. It kind of dampens the enjoyment when you don't really get a proper reward till then end, and even then, it's an item I don't see myself using much.

Fleas are cuter though. Fluffy little dumb bastards.
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>>720527571
Gameplaywise Grubs are better because each one gives you money while Fleas don't do jack until you collect a certain amount. Fleas are cuter though and they end up having the better reward once you do get them all.
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>>720527607
Get fleas brew and the flintstone too

Architect + buff tools fucking MOGs shit
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>>720527032
It's wild I could have had this hunter upgrade sooner, if I just spent the memory slots.
I was sitting on 13 of them until just a few minutes ago.
And I could have had the vestigial slots too. I can't believe I missed out on so much for so long.
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Wait if delicate flowers are everblooms, why did the white lady refuse the one we try to give to her?
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>>720526690
Shambling giant spider that partway through the fight rips apart and exposes the wasp that was growing in it.
Heavy lumbering boss monster gives way to a duel.
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Can't wait to rape Hollow Knight (the game) with my Silksong skills
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4Chan has informed me that my post is spam so I'm not allowed to post it. so I instead I will calmly say that this is the worst fucking thing any developer has ever put in any game ever and I'm going to fucking kill someone I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 6 HOURS
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Was that enemy rush for the conductor's song supposed to be doable without Shakra's help? Those last two brutes in such a small space were almost impossible, I can't imagine doing it solo
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>>720527406
Maybe you somehow missed the weaver door in Moss Grotto AND the one in Far Fields?
When you first get the Needolin they put you in a vision where they make you use it to open a Weaver door. I saw that and said "Oh it's THAT door again. I should go back there ASAP."
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>>720527571
I prefer Fleas cause they're fluffy and there are no Flea mimics in the base game.
It also cracks me up anytime I find one of the fleas that isn't actually stuck, it's just sleeping.
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>>720527552
Yeah, I guess I'm just playing more hit-and-run style with how frantic the bosses are at times, so the idea of carefully timing a parry is rough for me. That, and being able to just blast a boss with an extended Silk Storm when they get stunned is a great way to get in a burst of damage in a short time.

Nothing against parry since I'm sure it's great, it's just not my cup of tea. I'd argue there's no real "best" ability, just depends on what fits with your playstyle.
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>>720527765
>without Shakra's help
...Shakra can help with that?
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>>720527749
Tripple throwing knives can deflect the bouncing conches
Play defensively
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>>720527571
Grubs. No amount of cute bug drawing will make me not despise fleas.
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>>720527702
Yeah it sucks how opaque and vague the process is compared to Salubra directly telling you to get more charms to unlock her notches
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>>720527765
I did it without her help, I've missed every single NPC assist during a fight aside from Shakra helping with the ant gauntlet room.
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>>720527681
@grok is this real?
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There is one big criticism I have of Silksong and it's the overreliance on NPCs and shopkeeps.

I personally think the you can get rid of the Ant shopkeeper, the Architect shopkeeper, and even Eva's rewards besides the Hunter crest upgrade, and just make it so that these are spread across the world.
In fact, they should make it that you can find certain weaver terminals that you can bring back to Eva for the verticrest upgrades.

I understand what Team Cherry was going for but it made the overworld rewards a bit weaker even if Silksong generally has more fun stuff to get.
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>>720523035
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God, this game is going to be so fucking good once top-end maps come out and people start planning steel soul runs
A blind run was fun but knowing how to progress through the world opens up so many fucking options
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>>720527873
>Ant shopkeeper

yeah this even happens later on lmao when he dies and his boomerang becomes a reward above
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you know that caged door to the right of pilgrims rest that has something constantly banging on it and shaking the cave? How the fuck do you get it there?
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>>720527696
I was thinking something like;

> Architect Crest

Red Tools
> Cogflies
> Plasmium Phial
> Basically any other tool (but probably Silkshot or Tacks)

Blue Tools
> Wispfire Lantern
> Quick Sling or Pollip Pouch
> Fractured Mask

Yellow Tools
> Shell Satchel
> Magnetite Dice
> Basically any other tool
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>>720527749
You unlock a shortcut after the 3rd room. Go hard on that room and use up everything
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>>720527749
Have you used the shortcuts?
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>>720524234
Wanderer shits all over these shit crests with its godlike attack speed and running attack, plus a better pogo
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>an unlimited shell shard item exists
>its steel soul only
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>>720527951
architect feel like Im playing terraria, firing off laser and spawning in summons while having constant regeneration.
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>>720527948
a long ass platforming gauntlet that starts in the fast travel room
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>>720527765
Yep, but I realized I was being a dumbass after a bunch of attempts. Genuinely, save all of your tools until the duo comes out. Then, when they appear, literally throw everything you have at one of them. I threw the hanging spike things all at one and he melted instantly. Then I just had to fight the other that was left over.

I felt like an idiot since I was trying to bounce between them.

>>720527749
Is that the drill mosquito thing? Highly recommend Silk Storm and poison hanging spikes. Keep mashing Silk Storm and it cleans out all of the adds when they first appear. Then throw the hanging spikes with poison out to wreck the boss. Not even trying to brag, if that's the solo drill mosquito boss, I first tried it. It was a bit close, but definitely not my worst fight.
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>>720527749
>Khann for 6 hours
Are you fucking joking? Like seriously? Genuinely?
I beat him effortlessly on my first try. Karmelita took me 10 or so attempts, but Khann? Whole-heartedly?
He's the easiest of the trio by far, what the fuck?
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>>720527749
i'm sorry but if you're six hours in and struggling it really is just a skill issue
i was stuck there for an hour and i kept dying because they keep throwing new enemies at you but i eventually internalized everything's patterns and beat it
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>>720527706
>Ah, what precious gift it offers, though alas I shan't accept.
>Not of me that flower, nor of this kingdom. Far it travelled to reach this place, brought by one beloved, fair knight of lands serene.
>There is rare power hidden in those frail petals.
>To hold it so close, one must surely be unaware of its nature...

He's made of void, remember?
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where'stve
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Does anyone have the video of someone cheesing Groal by actually just sitting in the maggot water
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which silk shot is the best?
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>>720528048
first sinner, speedreader-kun.
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>>720527981
oh modders!
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>>720528041
WE STILL DONT KNOW WHERE FUCKING ZEMER IS FROM BY THE WAY

THERE ARE NO EVERBLOOMS IN SILKSONG
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>>720522428
why does that weapon seem so shit?
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>>720528069
mount fay is generally considered the best but honestly none of them have much meta uses atm
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>>720528013
No its 3 FUCKING gauntlets in a FUCKING row in act 3

>>720528023
I HAVE NOT GOT UP TO KHANN YET
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>>720528013
>I felt like an idiot since I was trying to bounce between them.
I did it that way. It gets pretty intense and I don't regret it but tacks would've solved things pretty quick if I had known where they were at the time.
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https://youtu.be/Uo20pVKiPpM
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>>720528147
HOW

HOW HAVE ANY OF YOU STRUGGLED AGAINST CORAL TOWER
THE FIGHTS THERE ARE SO LAUGHABLY SIMPLE AND KHANN HIMSELF TOOK LIKE 40 SECONDS TO BEAT

WHAT IS WRONG WITH ALL OF YOU?
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>>720527794
I do think the Silk Spear is straight up power crept by the Pale Nails, there are some edge cages you could justify using the former (usually cleaving) but you could use others for the same function.
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>>720527873
Agreed. Bouncing between the Songclave merchant (who gets a second set of goods later on), the thief merchant in the Blasted Steps, buying the house upgrades in Bellhart, and heading down to the smith and clockwork merchant has become an exhausting sequence of constant backtracking.

I have half a mind to grind rosaries for 30 minutes then clear every single one of them out. Going to each one whenever I get enough money is annoying as hell. Especially when I typically can only buy one thing since their goods often cost 500-800 rosaries.
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>>720528041
>He's made of void, remember?
...and?
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Where the hell do you find any of the regular Craws in Act 3?
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i'm in the final zone and can't beat this area, i decided to just explore some more before doing it, what should i get?
i plan to get the double jump as that may help out, i wish there were charms in this game, i don't have many things to play with
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how do i get through here there is just a solid wall here.
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What do magnetic dice actually do?
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>>720528236
And what might the flower do to the void dumbass
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>>720528189
>how are there people worse at video games than me I LITERALLY CANNOT UNDERSTAND THIS
why are /v/tards so autistic?
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>>720528125
Fartloom is too tainted to cultivate such pure things
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>>720527873
>>720528214
Im curious if theyll add more stuff through DLCs

I think that wpuld help filling in some of the overworld rewards
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>>720528041
>>720527706
Ghost should have hit her with the "Dad would have liked it."
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So what's the deal with the Wisp Thicket, is the Father of the Flame an effigy to another Higher Being or something?
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I just dove into The Abyss. Will I be able to go back to this area to kill enemies for Hunter's Journal?
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>>720528302
increases crit rate, sometimes prevent you from taking damage.
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>>720528301
Fight the dude before the door.
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>>720528327
Feels like another incarnation of the Nightmare Flame but there's close to zero explanation.
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>>720528189
>how did anyone struggle with [thing] it was so easy and simple
>yeah i used architect crest why do you ask
lol
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>>720528334
Does the crit rate only apply to wanderer?
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>>720528334
Can you crit on crests other than wanderer?
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>>720528160
The real reason the knight and HK aren't in silksong is because Hornet's IQ decreases by 50 in proximity with them.
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>>720528214
>I have half a mind to grind rosaries for 30 minutes then clear every single one of them out. Going to each one whenever I get enough money is annoying as hell. Especially when I typically can only buy one thing since their goods often cost 500-800 rosaries.
I mean, that was the end of me doing 100%. Just writing down the inventories of all the shops and grinding beads until I got what I needed. It's not that bad.
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>>720528374
No, I used Wanderers.
Because its based and powerful and I like getting close to my enemies
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>>720528302
Someone can correct me, but there's a small chance they will completely nullify a hit against you. Also, it may be related to something else I'm doing, but I swear I will randomly get a "crit" that does a bigger amount of damage and even does a unique sound.

Even if it's just the blocking damage though, it's fucking amazing sometimes. Doesn't happen often, but blocking a two mask hit is a miracle when it does.
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>>720528330
nope. at no point during the abyss do any characters talk about having to return there, or their plans for what they intend to do when they return. none of that happened. complete fabrication.
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>>720528297
use up your memory lockets on your crests then go visit the weavenest on the bottom of the map again.
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>>720528305
Okay well, but that doesn't explain why white lady wants the vessel, who she gave her half of kingsoul to, to keep the flower.
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>>720528214
I think instead of merchants they should have just gotten some minor quests that rewards a tool to you.

If you spread out the rewards of the thief/ant/architect and even the shop next to the Tyrant, you can fill out so much of the world with shit players can find.
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For real though if enemy gauntlets are filtering you particularly flying enemies then I must once again preach the gospel of our lord and savior, the almighty Clawline. You are almost certainly not using this godly ability to its full potential.
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>>720528414
>Also, it may be related to something else I'm doing, but I swear I will randomly get a "crit" that does a bigger amount of damage and even does a unique sound.
Wanderer crest
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>>720528297
get the double jump first and foremost, then go to that little room on the second floor and look for a secret. there's something you can do there that makes the arena fight easier.
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>>720528246
Beat up Crawdad and they'll start showing up again, you even get the entries for the judge versions for free
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>>720528373
Yeah I was thinking that, the way the wisps appear, the conical hoods and particular shade of red. I guess it could be a different sect, Grimm Troupe deliberately went to fallen kingdoms to harvest Nightmare essence for the Nightmare King but maybe the Burning Bugs simply worship the Nightmare King in a more traditional sense with monuments and prayer, akin to how the Moths worshipped the Radiance.
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>>720528189
I don't know man. The various gauntlets around have been 10x harder than any of the bosses, I second tried last judge and 3 tried the second lace fight, but these gauntlets just beat my ass relentlessly. I slept on it thinking that would do the trick like it usually does, nope, now I'm just gettting rekt but in daylight instead.
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>>720528435
>sit in a garden all tied up since you're afraid of how you literally couldnt stop birthing ancient horrors
>some guy walks up and hands you a ghostbusters vacuum
>yo take this
>the ghosts only inhabit the abandoned mineshaft 5 miles below you
Why would you want it
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>>720528379
>>720528384
I don't think so. I played with Dice on Reaper and there was no visual indication I got a crit at any point.
Not taking damage occasionally still makes it the best Yellow in the game by far for boss fights.
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>>720528435
She's just like "oh that's sweet, I don't really want it though; also lol you have no idea how much danger you're in, you big idiot."
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>>720528348
Nigga what dude. I already killed the make a wish kid
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>>720528297
You might already have it, but if you go to Whiteward, you can get a charm that speeds healing up. Combined with the charm you get from Bellhart(?) that increases healing to 4 but slows the process, it basically evens out and gives you a 4 mask heal.

Also, definitely get the hanging needle traps from the blacksmith and the tacks in Sinner's Road. That and the poison charm from the worm druid in the forest area. All of that combined makes traps that absolutely annihilate bosses/enemies.

As for that gauntlet, >>720528013 this is what I did. Just focus down one of the duo at the end. Helps immensely.
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Does the game end at lost lace? she's my last boss to fight but I also need to finish the hunter's journal for the 100%
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>>720528459
but it costs like 0.7 silk!
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>>720528126
It's normally not. The swings are connecting, but that enemy is bugged and not taking any damage.
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>>720528542
I wish I had recorded my first attempt at High Halls' gauntlet earlier, I beat the shit out of it without a sweat even with only 5 hp on my speedrun challenge.
Just rush-down the scary targets first and deal with the fodder afterward, and keep silk storm close. As long as you're agile and constantly moving, you don't need to heal, which lets you use silk storm more.

Wanderer is also the best because you simply deal more damage and get silk faster than the other crests, I don't know.
Wanderer is the only crest in this game for me, everything else feels silly.
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>>720528562
Walk to a bench, come back, then realize you have brain damage
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>>720528556
See that's the thing. Why wouldn't she warn ghost? Why is she risking the vessel she placed her hope in?
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>>720528459
I used a Clawline once in combat when I didn't have the silk for it and it gave my brain a permanent "it's better not to risk using it" mentality.
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>>720528628
And the two big dudes?
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>>720528542
nah, you're not alone. gauntlets are consistently the most difficult parts of the game. coral tower and the high halls arena both killed me more times than any boss in the game besides karmelita. they're highly random and can rage from pushovers to near-impossible based on enemy pattern RNG, and sometimes they just throw enemy combinations at you that were very clearly never playtested, like the double maestro and double hammer dudes waves in high halls. you can't actually fight them without taking damage, you need to know where they spawn in advance and save your silk to nuke them before they can kill you.
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>>720528672
Again, I just rushed down 1 of them.
Use Flintslate, my god. I see NONE of you using that shit.
It's the best subweapon by an unreal degree, it feels like it triples your damage.
I killed the first big guy before he could even attack twice, and then casually killed the second one.
Took on both without taking a hit.
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>>720528596
She is but you don't need to finish the Hunter's Journal for 100%. You do need the tool pouches however, which I neglected until the end.
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So does Twisted Bug ending mean that a mortal bug with no connection to Higher Beings can ascend to become a Higher Being if it manages to absorb the power of a Higher Being?
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>>720528596
End bosses in HK always reset you to the last bench afterward. SS is the same.
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>>720524803
They changed other stuff too. I did a quick run-through of Act 1 after the patch and noticed they flat out removed a few normal enemies in various locations, like an ant from Far Fields and one of the cone flies from the final ascent to the Last Judge.
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>>720528737
well there's a cheevo
though I have no idea what I'm missing there, It's so annoying.
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>>720528737
NTA but what all is needed for 100%? i'm at 98% and i have every mask shard, every spool fragment, every tool, all the needle upgrades, silk skills, tool upgrades, etc. and three of the four boss hearts. is karmelita and her heart really worth 2%, or am i missing something else?
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>>720528628
The fact I only ever use the default stuff in these games probably doesn't help, I've only used the first crest and the silk stab, it just feels wrong to switch off by the time you start unlocking them.
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SHERMAAAAAA YOU LITTLE FUCKING NIGGER

WHY DID YOU GO TO WHITEWARD BY YOURSELF SHERMA

IF YOU FUCKING DIED BECAUSE OF A TIMELIMIT I WOULD HAVE FIREBOMBED ADELAIDE
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I'm at the mist and while yeah I get it, it's such a stupid fucking gimmick area. Give me a break with this shit.
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>>720526150
I died a metric ton and beat Trobbio before I remembered that there were houses above the base level on Bellhart. I was running around with no nail upgrade the whole way through Sands, Sinner's, and Citadel. Went straight to +2 when I found the pinmaster...
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>>720528635
The flowers were literally a backup plan to be used if the void automatons and creatures went rogue. Probably fears that the knight would be offended that they have such a tool.
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>>720528404
>I use an absolutely busted crest
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>>720528835
How did they nerf Moorwing and Splinter though? I started a new save to check but I didnt notice a difference
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jobbers taking away precious dlc development time so team cherry can make the game easier
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>>720528947
>I use a crest that's fun and forces me to get close to enemies that deal 2 damage
High risk high reward niggy
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>>720528950
Do they still do two masks of contact damage? That's what I'd assume they'd change. At least during their staggers maybe since they're both bosses that can fall on top of you for a surprise kill.
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>>720528950
probably minor things like projectile speed or boss hitbox size.
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>>720528835
>one of the cone flies from the final ascent to the Last Judge.
good riddance
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>>720528950
I'm pretty sure with Splinter they just changed the adds to do 1 mask instead of 2.
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>>720528945
I guess. But a singular flower wouldn't do much
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>quick bind charm
>double bind charm
get fucked pharloom
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>>720528950
Moorwing's projectiles deal 1 damage now. Not sure about Splinter but I assume they nerfed the adds damage too
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The true final boss fight is by far the worst thing in this game.
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The big fight at the High Halls is absolutely ridiculous.
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Can you get the last nail upgrade before act 3? I hate to ask stuff like this normally but Groal has fucking mindbroken me and I will not attempt him again unless I'm certain I am as overpowered as I'm capable of being
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>>720529156
>double
It's +1. Instead of healing 3 you heal 4, or rather 2 then 2 again.
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>>720529190
No, final needle upgrade is in act3 from Flea minigames
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>>720529180
>>720529086
Ahhh seems reasonable

I wonder if well get more nerfs later
Like maybe the Last Judge only deals double damage in phase 2
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>>720529207
I know but my brain sees two animations and calls it a double bind
it's actually handy since even if you get hit like a retard during the bind you still got half the heal off
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>>720529249
please no, just add a fucking casual mode that slows down enemies by 20% and removes double damage, problem solved
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>>720529190
dude just hide in the water, maggots be damned
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>>720528835
>cone flies from the final ascent to the Last Judge
is it that first one down low? fuck that fucking fag
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>>720528978
>High risk
>When you have insane silk generation
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>>720529190
MAGGOTS
ARE
YOUR
FRIEND
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>>720529454
Its not my fault the game isn't as fun with any other crest
Wanderer lets me dish out damage to the bosses like they can dish out to me, that's the fun
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>>720529392
>>720529463
interesting I'll try this
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Lost Lace is genuinely an unfun fight. Haha there's no way to actually predict either when she parries, or how she attacks after the parry. Sometimes she'll be open other times it's just completely fucking rng on of she'll parry your first hit. It's fucking stupid.
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This guy had so much fucking health, jesus christ
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>>720529190
you can use poison cogflies and literally not have to attack the boss. I did so (albeit with max tool damage and max capacity) and only attacked enough for 1 heals worth of silk off the boss give or take and I didnt use architect bind. if I did I could have 100% killed the boss without swinging my nail once

also. go into putrified ducts from the other end and grab the maggot immunity charm. it allows for more mistakes
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>>720529553
stay in the bottom right water puddle and he cannot hit you aside from the dive and resurface attack
jump out to poke when it's safe (or when he spawns adds) and then go back in the water
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>>720529629
Wont the summons hit you
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>>720529589
You'll get there. You should focus on getting better instead of whining at the game, you can play around her, her parries are actually an easy opening
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>>720528908
make sure you play the nail when you find him for some dialogue
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>>720529594
If you can stick him with the syringe or whatever he dies quicker. I still need to do this fight.
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>>720529594
You can get him in I think 4 or 5 hits with the Plasmium Needle that the other guy gives you for Advanced Alchemy. Otherwise yeah, he's a massive pain cause each time he glows that's him regenerating health.
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>>720529680
>>720529681
I killed him, that's why I have the journal entry. I just used Wanderer and stuck near him hitting him a bunch with Multibinder+Injector Band
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>>720529589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyotQ-vBrDg

unironically one of the most fair fights in the game. difficulty be damned
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>>720529778
>gook tas fraud
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>>720523035
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the lava beastfly void thing is filtering me more than anything in act 2
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How do I open this shortcut? I don't see a path on either side.
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>>720529828
yeah it's just miserable then the first beastfly
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>>720529813
>tas
>for a game with this much variance
full retard
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>>720529824
>Hornet has a 'natural affinity' for radial blades
Bravo team cherry
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>>720529932
I think it's Act 3 only but I'm not confident.
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>>720523035
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>>720529983
I'm in Act 3.
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>>720529932
Greymoor side.
No trick to it.
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>>720530010
Oh. Well I definitely remember opening it up from the Greymoor side.
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>>720529813
the guy has only 9 masks and you think hes already spent time programming cheats?
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If you attack the ant merchant does he come back? He hid in the ground.
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The FOMO I feel when playing this game is really intense
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Is the apostate's key in the jail?
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>>720530090
just go to a bench bozo
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>>720530140
no
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>>720530140
It's in the putrified ducts, which is on the opposite side of the world map.
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>>720530213
>>720530219
Well that's silly.
Thank you.
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>>720530261
Its a fun reveal when you find it though, but yeah I was very confused because I assumed they wouldn't lock escaping the jail behind buying the fast travel.
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>>720530119
if it makes you feel any better there are only 3 truly missable things in the game to my knowledge as long as you dont consider dialogue to be content. the following need to be done before act 2 is complete
1. cursed child ending from twisted bud quest. this is personally the last thing I did before going to act 3, did everything else and then did the fight with 8 masks. took 5 or 6 tries, its really not that bad
2. shakra duel (just a journal entry, not a particularly great fight either)
3. garmond duel (again, just a journal entry and its a literal joke fight)
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>wish you were here
>then this shit would be like 10x easier
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>>720530340
>Missed an ending and 2 journal entries
This is annoying me so much, I'm not playing this 60 hour game again any time soon so I guess I'm not being a completionist this time around.
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>>720530462
its so insignificant bro who cares
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>>720530462
none of that is required to "100%" the game and only the first has an achievement tied to it and if you are going for achievement completions then doing a cursed run will be the least of your concerns. you can just staple it on to your 5 hour completion save file after you finish the speedrun. it might add an hour of playtime at most
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>>720522431
It's not that she says this thats funny to me, its that she says it after killing a bug and its mate.
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Is Memorium the most pointless location in the game?
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>>720530704
It's there to give you hints for places you (probably) haven't been yet while also having a bit of lore.
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>>720530704
It's just a lore location really

But it does tease stuff
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>>720530704
nah, that would be wisp thicket. memorium at least serves to foreshadow the idea that there are more areas in the game than you can currently access during act 2, wisp thicket has no relevance to anything.
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>>720530704
That or Wisp Thicket.
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>>720530704
Lorewise the coolest area
also it has some items
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>>720530704
Wisp Thicket does not serve a single purpose in the story of the game, and I literally don't even remember what boss or reward are in that area
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>>720530590
>5 hour run
Oh right, that does make me feel better, I was never going to be platinuming this one lmao
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>>720530827
Father of the Flame
Wisp charm
a flea
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Alright this is the first fight in the game I would consider genuine AIDS. It would be tolerable if there wasn’t 5 minutes of shitmobs beforehand every time. So boring.
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>>720530827
father of the flame. i thought he was cool just for being a boss where you get no silk, but other than that yeah it's not relevant to anything. could've just stuck the boss anywhere else and deleted the area and no one would bat an eye.
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>>720530870
Use your tools. Specifically tacks.
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>>720530870
>he didn't summon Shakra or Garmond
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>>720530870
Shakra fought with me and I beat it on my first try. Should try exploring more, it helps
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>talking like Garmond actually helps
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>>720530870
Gear issue
go build an architect build with health regen and you can trivializes any arena fight
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>>720530893
>>720530897
never mind I just did it. Little red robo bugs fought valiantly
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>>720530897
>>720530990
How do i get shakra to this fight or garmond?

i saw them as i was travelling but they don't end up here
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I honestly just think it's cool to have these little zones hidden in the nooks and crannies of the map. If you're going for 100% you'll find them but a casual player could finish the whole game and not even know shit like Wisp Thicket or Verdania or the Voltnest even exist.
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>>720530780
>>720530784
>>720530827
I think you guys are right cause I legit forgot about Wisp Thicket, yeah it's got a boss but it's such a tiny area. Also I guess as a follow-up, what was the in-universe reason for Memorium existing, I'm not sure what I was supposed to have read to filled me in on this location. Was Silk legit just making mini-terrariums of the different environments in Pharloom or was it someone else cause I don't really understand why she'd want this.
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>>720523392
>City of Iron
Where? It doesn't say anything about those city.
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>>720528896
Everything but bestiary entries and the turn-in collectibles you can see in your home (cylinders, mementos etc.)
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>>720531064
in the cradle one of the orders to find the weavers mentions such a place
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>>720531064
Steelsoul mode new NPC
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>>720531118
>>720531125
Oooh.
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>>720531079
You don't need all the Memory Lockets just enough to get Eva.
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>>720530770
>>720530704
speaking of, wheres the electric laser location?
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>>720531227
top of the middle shaft in sands of karak. need the act 3 movement upgrade to get to it. it's very small and has nothing but a pathetically easy boss and a charm that might have been useful if it didn't come at the ass end of the game.
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>>720531227
Tippy top of Sands of Karak you'll find the Voltnest. You can get to it in Act 2. The boss there is super easy and the charm reward is basically the Pollip Pouch for spells instead of tools.
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>Oh man shakra's master must be serious!
>Expecting some big combat and such
>Trail's end
that's fucking halirious
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>>720530843
WHERE WE DROPPIN' BOYS
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>>720523454
i beat the game!
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zanzibart... forgive me
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>>720524605
What is that thing between cogfly and conchcutter? I'm in act 3 and i haven't seen that item yet
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>>720531435
>4 days straight
geez anon did you even fucking sleep?



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