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i was waiting for the lift
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Savage Beastfly with Tarmites are not a good game design fuck you
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the unravelled might be the worst boss yet
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Next game is his game, right?
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>>720541512
Beastfly 1 is dishonest game design.
Beastfly 2 is extremely honest game design.
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>>720541539
It's not that bad. The moveset is fairly simple. The problem is that it has tons of health and every tiny error gets punished with 2 fucking masks.
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>>720541579
hollow knight: hollow knight
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ZAMN
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does the game have elemental damage multipliers?
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What's your stance on Hornet vs. Willy Wonka?
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if fren, then why fren shaped?
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Which mod will be more fun
>Hollow Knight with playable Hornet.
>Silksong with playable Vessel.
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>>720541579
It's zote's unironically
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So... how do you do Karmelitas final bit? If I pogo she just spams the spinny jump attack and if I try to poke with dash attacks she spams charges that seems impossible to jump above in time.

>>720541698
Speaking of Karmelita, they were really throwing bones to the bugfuckers in this one.
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>>720541651
No the problem is Whiteward is an amazingly atmospheric area but the boss is some fucking shower curtain.
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Post yfw this started playing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnDlcvqthpg
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>>720541698
LACE CANONICALLY LOOKS AND THINKS LIKE A CHILD

SHE'S A FUCKING KID
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want DLC expansion: Lace origins story (playable Lace)
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>>720541736
The boss is fucking aids.
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>>720541718
Playable vessel. Hornet's sprite is too big and lost the magic of being a little bug in a massive world.
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>>720541785
wtf i love team cherry now
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imo best candidate for next playable character is shakra
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>>720541785
A SILK LIFE FORM OF WHAT
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>>720541732
>So... how do you do Karmelitas final bit? If I pogo she just spams the spinny jump attack and if I try to poke with dash attacks she spams charges that seems impossible to jump above in time.
I kept a screen-length away from her until I knew I could sprint and stab. Also pogo her spikey rush.
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>>720541785
Isn't that just an act?
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This is the first DLC we're getting btw.
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i'm genuinely fucking shocked we don't fight shakra at any point
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>>720541850
All she is is an act. She’s barely a thing that exists.
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>>720541825
She's too big to be playable
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i remember during the initial release there was someone complaining in the threads about the movement of the diagonal pogo, talking some shit about how sometimes hornet would backflip during it and that'd change the input or direction or some shit
i'm here to say that after many hours of silksong i have no idea what he was on about
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>>720541859
she's an optional fight in Act 2, but I missed it
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>>720541850
No. She was literally created that way.
Team Cherry made an eternal bratty loli.
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>>720541859
>He doesn't know
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>>720541851
>Deliberately cut contents they already revealed so they can release """new""" DLC later
Next level shit
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is there a point where the game will let me see collectables i'm missing? i just got the "bad" ending(grandmother silk was way easier than lace 2 surprisingly), i can already see what fleas i'm missing but i'm supposedly still missing some maps and i don't even know where to start on the 1 missing spool and 6 missing mask pieces
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>>720541926
haven't we been on that level for 10 years?
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>>720541579
They’d have to shrink him a bit. With some excuse like “the radiance made him really big or whatever”
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>>720541785
more like child bearing hips
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How the fuck are people getting filtered by the Unravelled of all things?
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>>720541885
just zoom the camera out and have her fight bigger enemies
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>>720541926
From what I understand, Sharpe was supposed to be Hornet's original rival but they changed it to Lace.

But the Steelsoul NPC teases a lot about the steel faction so they're probably getting in first.
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>finish act 3
>only ever had 10 mask shards
what the fuck
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>>720541951
Did everyone think of Diogenes when they saw the bug in the bell that tells you to fuck off?
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>>720541951
you only need fleas and sidequests to unlock Act 3, if I'm not mistaken. Spools and masks are for 100% completion, but not tied to progression. There's an item in the final dungeon (Act 3) that will show you your % progression on everything (including spools and masks). The only thing the game tracks for you is the last few fleas.
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>>720541926
but anon its free DLC!!!
(i have said this before but "free dlc" is such a fucking psyop, they call it that to make it seem like theyre generous for giving away dlc - normally paid content - for free, except we have a word for when content is added to a game for free - a fucking update. cant wait for minecrafts 1.22 free dlc!!)
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>>720542020
I haven’t even unlocked act 3 and I’m nearly at 9 health.
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>mementos
i got my first in act 3, can i still get the rest somehow or i already fucked up my 100% run?
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>>720542068
i think the last 5 shards are Act 3
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>>720541785
So she's a kid with a giant bubble butt? Is this the tell that she's a weirdo?
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>>720541740
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>>720541651
his moveset his fine but adds are cancer and hes not even on screen half the time. plus he has the problem half the fat fucks in the game do where his hurtbox doesnt seem to align perfectly with his sprite so its hard to know the damage zones, and its so big that once youre inside him youre probably taking 4 masks because your i frames wear off before you can get out of him
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>>720541890
>>720541902
why the fuck would they make that missable
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>>720541894
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>>720542068
I've already been through what feels like a billion nooks and crannies
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>>720541976
refusal to use tools probably, tacks and sawblade with poison melted him for me
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>>720542051
Do you not know what the acronym "DLC" stands for? You're whining right now that they're calling content you can download for free content you can download for free.
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>>720541951
You never get maps for items no. You have to look up a guide and either remember the ones you've done or check them all.
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what should i do with this? Is it questline related
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>>720542130
she is talking about the player btw
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>tools
i don't think the majority understands how broken those things are if used correctly
nerf patch was a mistake
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>>720541976
Define filtered. I thought it was just a shit fight
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>>720542216
fuck...can i get everything in act 2 or should i just wait until i'm in act 3
>>720542224
see, what the fuck is this??? there's STILL shit i haven't seen, god damn
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>>720542241
People are rightfully scared by the shard syste
They should have just gotten rid of it
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>>720542224
no, it's just there to fill in your Materium. same for the bucket of fire you can inspect in the deep docks i think
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>>720542280
There's a few things you can't get until act 3 so you might as well wait
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>>720542224
It adds an entry to the materium if you have it.
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>>720542309
I still don't get the point of that thing. Is it just supposed to be a Metroid Prime-esque log book or something?
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>>720542367
Yeah its just there for lorefags
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Never played any of the two before. Start with Silksong or with the original first?
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>>720542367
i guess it's mostly to just check the flavor text of items you gave away
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>>720542367
pointless "worldbuilding" shit, unlike actual history/character lore that is just boring
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I hope the next game is set some place nice where nothing bad happens, sick of all the doom and gloom.
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>>720542414
original
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>>720542414
original. silksong is a sequel.
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>>720542414
Original because this one is harder and the original will be harder to go back to.
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can you actually just cheese steal soul mode by quitting out? you'd think they would do something to prevent that
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>>720542414
First game obviously as bunch of plot points in Silksong would fly past your head if you started with it
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>>720542489
Why would they? It’s not an online competitive game? Do what you want.
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>>720542489
You would have to be mentally retarded to make the conscious choice to play steel soul mode and then cheese it

If a retard wants to be retarded who cares
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SEX WITH LACE
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>>720542489
Why? Is there even an achievement from it?
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>>720542461
how can there be a game with no conflict?
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when's steel only NPC/boss in normal mode mod
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>>720542461
>Hallownest - Dead and home to a direct path to the abyss with only the Mantis left
>Pharloom - void nuked but potentially survives with small pockets of civilization
>Land of Storms- Completely destroyed
>City of Iron - Void+Steel totalitarian shithole
>Home of the Everblooms - Status unknown

Pick your poison bro
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What do the pilgrims plan on doing after they get there?
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>>720542608
>>City of Iron - Void+Steel totalitarian shithole
>>Home of the Everblooms - Status unknown

Who and who???
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>>720542563
she is just a silk doll
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>>720541785
She is an unironic womanchild, with stunted growth. Not an actual kid.
She is still hundreds of years old with wisdom to match. She is just a silly bitch in spite of it all because she is, at least in part, mentally immature.

Unironically like some kind of neckbeard. The 40 year old loser basement dweller neckbeard who has never had a job or much of any human interraction. Can still have learned a lot during his life that would be expected from an adult who has spent 40 years on this earth. But he would still be immature in other areas due to his lack of experiences. This is why we call people like this manchildren.
But no one thinks the 40 year old neckbeard is actually a kid. And we wouldn't think this even if he was some manlet twink.

So yeah Lace is just a woman child. And when she isn't playing Pharloom's sentinel guardian, I bet she spends most of her time bedrotting in her field of flowers.
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>>720542667
DID I FUCKING STUTTER
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>>720542632
get their 72 virgins
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I think the next game will take place in some kind of ruined kingdom.
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woe the state of gaming when something that belongs on the gameboy advance (and is worse than most of the games in its genre) gets this much attention
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>>720542659
City of Iron is mentioned in some lore notes in the Cradle and is expanded in the Steel Soul exclusive questline.
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>>720542632
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>>720542632
Worshipping whatever it is they worship.
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>is so profoundly dogshit and intentionally aggravating that your game can never ever be a 10/10
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>>720542775
git gud
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>>720541356
wtf happened to my hp
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>>720542775
I did this late enough into act 2 where I could just cheese everything. Thank god because it’s such a trash area.
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>>720542775
just do purtrefied aquaduct and get the resist maggot trinket first
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>>720542812
congratulations, you became the Hollow Knight
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>>720542775
Ironically the most memorable idea because most areas are just platforming + flying enemies in different colors
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>>720542775
I respect the autistic vision for creating such a horrendous area
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>>720542775
THE STINKY SEWER
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>>720541356
FUCK that boss in this area. Close to calling it quits here, the contact damage and the fucking spear spam is the most absurd and insane bossfight ive EVER seen in a metroidvania game.
13 tries and can get constantly to phase 2 but after he dissapears for the 3rd time im getting my shit kicked in. Fuck this fight and whoever thought that this was a great challenge and fair challenge.
>spear spam
>3 projectiles with random trajectory
>the spears spam after you jump over him at the exact location you want to land
>also enemie waves inbetween that can catch you for 2+ dmg
this is beyond tiresome
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Would shade cloak be OP in this?
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Lost all reason to pick it back up after finishing that part in Act 3 where you have to escape the abyss, then you're hit with more talk to NPC objectives. The whole start of the act felt amateurish and roughly put together, there's better ways to guide players to the diving bell and investigate the shamans without forcing it on rails. It's sort of antithetical to metroidvanias and how most of the first two acts handle the overarching main quest (obtaining the three songs were too on the nose but it at least added some resistance between you and the quest markers.)
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>>720542775
>MMO-tier sidequests
>Courier missions
>Need to do all sidequests for act 3
>Sinner's road
>Bilewater
>Putrified ducts
>Sands of karak
>Shit bosses like the chef and groal
>Having to travel to Grand Bellway constantly
>High halls gauntlet
>Ant gauntlet with shakra turning into visual aids
The game is littered with "that part"s
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>>720542906
Maybe they rushed act 3 or added it as an afterthought
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>>720542942
>rushed
7 FUCKING YEARS
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>>720542051
>i have said this before but "free dlc" is such a fucking psyop, they call it that to make it seem like theyre generous for giving away dlc
Free DLC used to be standard. Before some fuckwits realized they could charge money for it.
Lots of old games had free DLC, including big and commercially successful ones. Like WC3 had free DLC just to name one. It's no fucking psyop at all.
If anything you've got it in reverse. People got duped into thinking it was ok to be charged money for it.

DLC just means downloadable content. It's not an excuse for people to charge money for game updates even though that's what they're doing anyway.
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>>720542913
Sands of Karak isn’t bad, it’s just kinda there.
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All this fucking shit just for a mask shard
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>>720542993
i understand that, my point is that these days,
"DLC" = paid and "update" = free. so calling your updates free dlc feels disingenuious given the connotations the terms have now
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>>720542942
It's likely the case, it felt like it was made by a different dev team, so it was probably made half a decade later after act 2 was done
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>>720542632
Walk around the black box for an hour or two
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>>720542906
If this was the first Hollow Knight they wouldnt have even marked the diving bell let alone any of the heart locations
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>>720543032
This is one of my main gripes with this game
The whole map is fucking massive and there is barely anything worthwhile
>hidden wall
>oh maybe theres some good shit
>its 6 anal beads on a string
>or shards that stick to the wall and fall into spikes
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>>720542603
I thought I'd be able to play Elegy of the Deep in order to fight a young Garmond.
Now. I already think the game has a truly incredible amount of content. I can certainly see how it could have taken them 7 years. So I won't say the game needed more or is lacking or anything.

But the Elegy of the Deep really had far fewer interactions than I expected of it.
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>>720542082
all of it is in act 3
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>>720543032
what, you want a beast shard instead?
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>>720543098
>I wonder what's down this pit
>Oh look, spikes
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>>720543129
Give me a cool trinket for doing that dogshit lava arena
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Did you guys ever take the compass off?
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>>720543098
Silksong is going to be my GOTY but thats my issue too.

What basically happened is they put way too many stuff in the shops.
You could get rid of like literally three shops in tjis game and just spread their items across the world and the game would be way better for it.
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>>720543186
yeah for farming rosaries
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>>720543186
i feel lost without it
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>>720543186
No. It should be a default feature but the yellow charms are so plentiful with slots while also being mostly useless that it never mattered
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>>720542674
She used to spent her time killing stuff and cleaning up the citadel
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>>720543059
Well. It distinguishes between the updates they're now. That are just rebalancing stuff or adding/removing minor small stuff.
And the actual content updates that genuinely adds new content to the game.

And calling them expansions might also be misleading since that'd imply something even more. That'd be like adding act 4 or something to the game.
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>>720543203
This has been an issue since Hollow Knight and I've been saying it for years. The currency adds nothing to the game, take it out and put the shop items in the secret areas instead
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>>720543108
>is lacking
It fucking is for the size of the maps. Gear/Power gets dripfed to the player at a snails pace, if that.
>>720543161
Also this. Or empty fucking rooms
>>720543186
Fuck this shit too. Installed the mod for perma compass because fuck that retarded design
>>720543203
>they put way too many stuff in the shops.
EXACTLY. I bought more shit compared to gameplay rewards/secrets and dont even get me started on several bosses giving jack & shit but graciously allow you to progess into another area
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>>720541719
No. That stretch goal was not met and I do not want to play as Zote. Fuck that. Give me Lace or the Hollow Knight or the stupid furry game they trademarked, but NOT Zote. I will not buy that game.
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>>720542769
Oh yeah they never really explained that huh.
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i am never using anything but the hunter crest again
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>>720543161
>Enjoy your 7 shards anon
>oops they all fell in the spikes :>)
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>>720542993
I think the true psyop is FLC.
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>>720543331
Z is for?
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>>720543203
You mean you don't want to sit and farm those big shitters next to songclave for an hour to get enough rosary shards to buy things from the shop? How unoriginal.
They really should've put more stuff around the map rather than this shit
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>>720542141
I'm two shards and and one spool away from maximum, so I'm just cross referencing the interactive map now for any secret spots I might've missed.
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>>720543308
It really doesnt. But fucking everything needs From Software shit in their games nowdays.
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>>720543090
Yeah, that's the disappointing part. They threw out their design philosophy in the final act where it should matter the most to capitalize on the reveal.
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59 hours
100%
26 deaths on lost lace
>teleports into you

great game, my favorite this year(poorfag so I only played indies) definitely deserves a goty NOMINATION.

thanks for the threads guys, most fun I had since DD2 live BLAST threads.
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>>720543334
Makes me seethe every goddamn time
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>>720543391
For me the last spool was one hidden in mosshome. Really pissed me off that I managed to miss that
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where is the bilewater bench
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>>720543420
these /v/ comfy threads definitely made the playthrough enjoyable for me.
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I just got the trap quest for the pale monarch I assume it's an optional quest, if I take it will I get a fucked up gay ending? I want the true ending basically just tell me if doing it will lock me out if that
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>>720543098
>>720543334
>shards that stick to the wall and fall into spikes
this part has always been a little baffling to me
why do they do this? like obviously they know it's gonna happen. there's actually no way for you get most of them as they fucking shoot off when you hit them
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>>720543392
But bro it's totally got no inspiration from dark souls. These are just metroidvania conventions, you're dumb it's nothing like fromshit, the game is totally original
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do you have to do the missions to deliver the stuff without breaking it?
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>>720543524
yeah, pale oil is locked behind it
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>>720543524
You have to do the timed one
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>>720543553
>>720543524
also the real ending requires it
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>>720543524
I think the ones to settlements are optional, just for the challenge and rosaries
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>>720543483
>they know it's gonna happen
At this point im convinced its just to shit on the player
>HA GOTCHA
>thought you got those shards eh
>card crush.jpg

>>720543506
Shit, yeah my bad. Youre right ofc
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I wanna save pilby
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>>720543524
the ones to the towns don't do anything and just repeat
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>>720543524
Not queen's egg or the generic ones
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You see this happen in action when the ant shopkeeper dies. When he dies the boomerang becomes a reward for the fight above.

Makes way more sense.
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I can't even consistently get Opera Bitch to her third scream bros, I think I'm gonna have to use "that" tool with "that" charm...
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>>720543476
It's your ticket to the true end.
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>>720543331
Do you know about dash cancelling?
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>>720542887
To add: I will beat this fucker but please tell me, do i even get anything or is it just another
>a winner is you.jpg
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>>720543476
You can't lock yourself out of the true end. The only ending you can lock yourself out of is the cursed ending
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>>720543469
The top
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>>720543186
I'm lost as fuck without it. I do recognise sections, but for the most part my brain just can't relate my position to adjoining screens.
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>>720543476
You only get the gay ending doing it
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>>720543683
I don't even know which boss you're talking about but assume it's the latter
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>>720543683
Silk Heart, he's easy too lol
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>>720543683
Its one of the items that generates minimum silk
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>>720543683
You get a silk heart
Just spam poison tacks
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>>720543753
How in the fuck is he easy, elaborate
>>720543759
Atleast something
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What the FUCK is Greyroot?
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I can't believe how much shit I am missing, I swear I hit every fucking wall.
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>>720541965
Hell fucking no. HK's size is what makes him unique and you want to take it away from him with a shitty nonsensical excuse (Pure Vessel was also big. Radiance didn't change shit). Just enlarge the world around him.
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>>720543773
>tacks
Wat. Where and how get there?
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>>720543773
Where are the tacks, I haven't seen anyone else asking so I assume they're somewhere obvious and I'm just blind

>>720543779
Cause I did him in Act 3 with max weapon, I imagine he's a lot harder earlier if you can't kill the adds quickly
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>>720543835
>act 3
Oh, this makes sense. I beat the clockwork fags just earlier.

>Where are the tacks, I haven't seen anyone else asking so I assume they're somewhere obvious and I'm just blind
Thats what i would like to know aswell
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>>720543683
>>720543753
>>720543759
>>720543773
>>720543779
>>720543835
what boss?
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>>720543835
two swamp bros in a house in the swamp
I didn't get them till act 3 and at that time they were fucking dead and the tacks were just on the floor
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>>720543810
>>720543835
sinner's road NPC, they give you a quest for roach meats
https://hollowknightsilksong.wiki.fextralife.com/Tacks
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>>720543785
in the woods bitch
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why is there no map acquisition in wisp thicket? you just start drawing it
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>>720541704
Would be kinda funny if Hornet managed to wrangle a pack of Muckroaches and use them like sled dogs just tearing through Citadel. I'm surprised we don't really see a proper interaction between the bipedal bugs in Sinner's Road and the Muckroaches, like one of them riding a Muckroach as a mount. I guess to be fair given the vibes given by some of the NPCs and a lot of Muckroaches being caged that they're not exactly in good standing.
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>>720543871
The Unravelled
>>720543878
Dont even know where the fuck that is but ill look it up, thanks anon
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>>720543871
Unravelled or something similar, Whiteward boss in the pit

>>720543874
>>720543878
Oh the same guys for the Witch crest, yeah should have figured there was something else about that but I never went back
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sex with child hornet
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>>720543878
The tacks were fucking hilarious with the unraveled because you could literally just dump them on the ground in one spot and he immediately pops up and takes enough damage in the opening cinematic to skip the entire first phase
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>>720543779
You can hug the wall on his side before he burrows up to start spitting to spam attack his back, it's a safe spot. Even if he comes up to start his bullrush attack, you're out of the way if you're up there hugging the wall and you can hit him from behind once given the attack window.
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Yes, I cheesed savage beastfly lava version by leaving the arena and jumping to the place I entered and then going back to him to despawn his adds every time he spawned them, problem?

Only took me 2 tries once I learned this to kill him :^)
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>>720542548
Does it have to be an online competitive game to be challenging? What a retarded argument.
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>>720543186
Never put it on the first place. I can tell where I am by simply looking at the map 99 times out of 100.
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>>720543663
what
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>>720542887
What boss
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WHERE THE FUCK IS GILLY AND WHAT DOES SHE SELL YOU
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So now that you've had time to stew on it, what's your favourite area in the game (also you can exclude Bilewater, I know that's everyone's favourite so you don't need to pick that one too)?
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>>720543684
leddit said the game autosaves when you get the curse so you can revert to it but if you're not ready for the boss at that point it could be too much of a bother
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>>720541579
No, it will be her game >>720541698
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>>720542051
It's DLC in the sense that it adds substantive content to the base game, while still existing in a compartmentalized nature.
It is free because you are not being charged for it, given the game in question is $20 and offers 30+ hours of genuine singleplayer content, and the content in question was cut so that they could release the game without having to work on it for another 2 years.
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>>720543949
Huh. Well, now i know where im heading next before banging my head against wall even more
>>720543979
Intredasting. Problem i was facing was getting killed by the fucking spear spam that sometimes spawn JUST as i jump over his rush from the wall.
>jump over
>nearly dead
>just as im about to land a fucking spear spawns exactly behind his fucking hitbox
>2 lives gone
>get thrown back
>into his hitbox
>dead

>>720544062
The unravelled
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You fags were calling the mushroom quest difficult and path of pain 2.0 i just want to let you know anyone who found that hard is retarded and shit at videogames
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>>720544074
Abyss
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>>720544072
Gilly doesn't sell you anything as far as I can tell
T. 100%'d the game
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>>720542887
>>720544062
I'm assuming you're talking about The Unraveled given the mention of Spears, the answer to your question of whether there's anything worth it is yes, you get a Silk Heart which is the regenerating silk on your spool.

Also a recommendation with the projectile attack where he spits up two (later three) dregs at you, only one will ever be low, so just jump over that one and stay underneath the other two. The spears also aren't that bad they're easy to predict and the pair he summons when he does his roar are basically a free hit against him.
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>>720541356
Silly move, you should race the elevator down
There's a spool at the bottom
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Having half bug children with Lace
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>>720544158
one of the kino scene in act 3 desu
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>>720544158
unironically basedfaced at them
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>>720544125
People were saying Mount Fey was Path of Pain tier, I don't actually think they did it in the first game and just heard it was a hard platforming area so compare anything that isn't one pogo on to a platform to it
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61bP3CYVZWo
i think i play better than ongbal
can you guys recommend what kind of videos would be better to get views i upload like him but no views
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>>720544158
Never noticed how much the Bell Beastlings head looks like the Vengeful Spirit icon
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>>720544152
Im mostly getting killed by contact damage or spears spawning after i jump over his rush
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>>720541579
waiting in a dark room making up songs to drown out the screaming god in your head
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>>720544158
I was mildly upset that there was no option to pet the dog
Then it had puppies and there was still no option
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Is there a 4th nail upgrade?
The guy says he's off to visit a cemetery, but I don't remember seeing one in shellwood.
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>>720543796
Did you remember to check every single curtained bit of roof in the citadel and go right to the edge of every single swimmable bit (including the maggot AIDS area!) for hidden paths anon? It's beyond retarded how much stuff is hidden in this game, I'm just going off someone elses fully completed map now
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>>720542632
put on a robe and attack any horned bugs in red cloaks
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i wish i could say i was surprised
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>>720544136
Whats the point of her then

Memento?
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>>720541976
I got bad advice from a guide someone posted where they said you could destroy the projectile attacks with a single melee attack, among other things.
still haven't beaten it, but got close, ran out of shards for tools.
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>>720544206
You know it's weird
Silksong has a way higher baseline difficulty but I don't feel like it ever peaks as high as HK did
NKG took me hours, as did PoP
There were frustrating fights in SS but nothing that was really truly horrifically miserable in the long term
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>>720544209
The contact is likely due to the hitbox, admittedly it is a bit shit but when he does his charge attack if you give him just a little space past the flick of the cloak when he's facing away from you it's fine and you can still get hits in. I really can't help you with the spears though, they were something I just never had trouble with, they're not very fast and compared to some other bosses could be a lot worse.
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>>720544258
It's not surprising once you learn that the game was actually designed by pic related
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>>720544272
Lost Lace is harder than both PV and NKG for me.

But no AbsRad tier fuckface yet.
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>>720544223
Yes. Go left until the room before the bench then go up iirc.
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>>720544265
Not even that
I think she's just a flavor NPC
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>>720544258
that you were missing so many, or that they cost money?
I was only missing 2 by the time I unlocked this, cost me 200 bucks
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I hate how many times you‘re led to a dead end from which you have to run back all the way. Hollow knight rarely did that
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>>720544285
I just killed the gay robo twins and got my 2nd nail upgrade, prob should get more stuff, including the tacks and a 7th heart and come back later
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>>720544223
Its marked on the map
Its got a stone telling you to play music for the dead
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>>720544207
you literally just have to get lucky with the algo and your timing to get views. if you look at ongbals old videos, they had no views at the time and they still have no views. he just kept uploading and then got lucky with people paying attention to sekiro
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>>720544272
That's because your skills from HK carry over to this one but they didn't put a long-ass platforming section this time, Cradle climb was basically two screens and it was almost entirely the same walljump > harpoon > double jump strategy the whole way up whereas Path of Pain mixed it up
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>>720544272
Probably because Silksong has two moods. You shitting on the boss because you've gotten the flow, or the boss shitting on you, because once it clicks, it clicks and you know it's a matter of time

You get so many more 'nearlies' in HK, even if you don't know what you're doing.
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>>720544115
>>720544152
Had no idea there was a boss in whiteward lol I thought i fully explored it the first time i went there like 20 hours ago
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>arcane egg in hk nets you lile a thousand geo
>arcane egg in pharloom nets you 200 rosaries

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS DOGSHIT THEOCRATIC ECONOMY
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>>720544272
Yeah the game in general feels like it's around about where Late Fog Canyon and Queens Gardens were in HK and just sticks there for the whole time. There's nothing remotely as difficult as Path of Pain on the platforming side of things, hell even dedicated platforming areas like Mount Fay and Upper Cogworks Core I'd argue are easier than baseline White Palace.
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>>720544351
Also this
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>>720544115
Yeah, if you're already behind him when he starts his rush you can just drop down and dodge any spears that spawn from the ground. His attack pattern is only two moves and technically that third one where he digs up from the center of the arena to spawn two spears but it's not even dangerous if you're paying attention.
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>>720544389
Geo has generic arbitrary worth. Rosaries are proof of faith. They aren't given out like candy. NO handouts, nig
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>>720544251
>all those tools and still cheese
I don't even need to say the phrase at this point
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>>720544362
Yeah Tacks helps, Buzzsaw's good too cause he's grounded. You can also get your third nail upgrade if that helps.
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>>720543308
Metroid had it figured out already. These games don‘t need currency
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>>720544384
Theres a hidden area with a key to the ornate lock in the area, look around thoroughly. I want to say its on the right side of the area.
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>>720544384
Hidden area near the part were you help the little guy after hes looking for meds in the ward. Its marked by a light source from above. Theres a key which opens the entire floor in the first section
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>>720544384
I don't know how you'd miss it, the boss is behind the Surgeon Key lock.
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>>720544390
Just wait for DLC Path of Pain honestly. That's what I'm excited for.

And Hollow Knight had fuckall platforming challenges in the over world. Silksong is more like them taking White Palace and just spreading it all over the map. HK barely had any mandatory pogo sections outside of WP.
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>>720544429
>using tools
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I'm playing on switch 2 and I got to the blasted steps
should I stop my game from updating
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>>720543186
I didn't have much trouble in act 2 with no compass, but act 2 is awfully stingy with map access (or I am retarded) there's like 3 areas I've comepletely explored that just don't have a map I can find. I've been using pins and the compass to 'map' out a basic path whenever I need to find my way back to a cocoon or something
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>>720544482
>purple cogfly
Yeah
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>>720544487
Anon the balance changes are negligible, and I say that as somebody who beat the entire thing unpatched and therefore has nothing to be insecure about
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>>720544518
You didn't complete the game
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>>720544368
so i upload for 5+ years for maybe a chance at getting decent views?
amazing company
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>>720544251
Could've been a 10 second webm if you were using a faster crest (every crest but reaper)
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>>720544532
Thanks for saying it for me.
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>>720544436
I got the second one and have to do the whole fucking gourmet quest afaik, but eh. Later perhaps
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>>720544251
Bosses have too much hp in this game Jesus
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do the bugs eat food?
if so what do they eat
i think hornet likes meat
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Sooo what's the point of this little area? Nothing to the left but sand worms and an invisible wall. Nothing on the ceiling. Playing music to this guy does nothing. No items. Just nothing.

And it was behind a super jump-only area.
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Is there a Memento for collecting all lore items? Missing 3 and that sounds like it could be 1 of them
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Reminder that you didn't beat the game
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>>720544480
DLC Path of Pain actually sounds pretty nice, especially if it was like a Godhome sort of thing where it tests your skills and really pushes the abilities to their limits. Get to see new combinations of mechanics from areas mixed together like wind shafts, pogo spikes, rock trees, cold runs, magnetite platforms, citadel's metronome platforms, etc.
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>>720544510
Vaults map is really hidden, but I think that's it.
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>Die to gay Dancers: real edition
>Spawns you outside the dream
So sick of these run backs.
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>>720544535
i mean if you want your videos to be no hit boss runs and shit yeah. i suppose you could also sell your soul and upload content farm/ai shit for easier money
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>>720544596
Play music for the man. He's bored
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That was absolute fucking cancer and if the rest of the game wasn't so incredible I would've quit here
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>>720544602
>wanderer
Nor did you
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>>720544596
play some music
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>>720544596
You need the dream needolin to enter his dream
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>>720544596
How many songs do you have
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>>720544634
But anon, think of the prize!
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>>720544647
WTF I DID
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>>720544591
Seems that way when you're playing nail only with the lowest DPS crest without using its built-in damage buff
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>>720544592
Hornet specifically says that since she's a fucking demigod mutt supersoldier she barely needs to eat anything.
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>>720544694
DEEZ NUTS?!
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>>720544698
>First picture had three masks
>Now at two
You tried to jump over the sand didn't you
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>>720544487
unless you want to grind for rosaries, then no, the only other change that would effect you at that point is hazards doing 1 mask instead of 2
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nothing else for me to do, now it's DLC waiting room
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finally in act 2. the judge runback wasn't nearly as bad as i saw people saying.
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>>720544736
>trusting a woman to be honest about her eating habits
Have sex, incel.
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>>720544749
n-no....
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>>720544652
There is another, closer bench. Still absolute cancer zone, arena and boss.
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>>720544790
Where?
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>>720544754
That's because lots of people are shitters that unironically stop and walking jump across each platform, and fight every mob on the way. Then they cry about how it's too difficult to concentrate on exploring and finding a better route when they're fighting for survival.

Just look at how many people complain about being hit by the first drillfly when it spawns.
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What triggers Act 3? Can I go grab the basic ending and keep exploring Act 2?
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This is what the perfect female looks like, if you don't like it your certified gay.
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>>720544596
where the fuck is this
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>>720544790
I had found the "close" bench before I ever encountered him. I didn't mind the rest of bilewater I just fucking hate Groal
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>>720544591
Wanderers crest shreds them
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You know the real shame in this game?

You only have one spell slot.
Which means they couldn't design bosses under the assumption that you could parry or iframe dash them.

I think a later DLC should just outright make parry a permanent skill you can use and have fights that take it into account.
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>>720544825
>doing most quests
>move flea caravan to another place
also yes
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>map clearly shows there's a wall
>actually there's a hidden passage there. to find it you just need to hit your head against every wall in pharloom bro. haven't found it yet? try backtracking whole map again and hit every wall and ceiling lol lmao!
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>>720541785
Lace is literally 1000 year old and she's technically Hornet's aunt
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>>720544592
> Do they eat food?
Yes, one of the bosses in the game is literally a chef, there is a quest that revolves around collecting food. Hornet makes a note when talking to the barkeep in Greymoor of her unusualness in not needing much sustinence to live, etc. There are many examples in-game.
> If so what do they eat?
Most likely whatever they can get their hands on, we know the bugs in Sinner's Road eat the Muckroaches since there's a quest for that. The Gourmand Quest's ingredients include a nut (Crustnut), Meat (Pickled Muckmaggot & Courier's Rasher), possible fruit (Vintage Nectar) and vegetables (Mossberry Stew).
> I think Hornet likes meat
Fair, I don't think we see Hornet actually eat anything in game although she does drink from the bar in Greymoor and Flea Brew looks like some sort of drink as well.
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>>720544825
Yeah, it'll dump you out before the last boss if you reload your save. Act 3 needs a whole quest to trigger after you e done all the quests in act 2
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>>720544816
The Judge runback was easier than both Spul Master and Mantis Lords even.

I could understand Bilewater since that place is legit to bad it might make me knock a point off the game.
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>>720544861
Your tools are supposed to be spell alternatives. The whole point, if you're not a retard, is to gear up in a way that fits your playstyle
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>>720544882
That's like 4 days in human years
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>>720542887
>spear spam
they lock in to where you are standing at that point so keep moving
>3 random projectiles
pogo on his head that's how I avoided it completely
>enemy waves
they suck.
Also use drones and tacks
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>>720544838
It's in Karak, one of the vine platforming sections. Spoiler for exact location
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I thought the pale king gave the bugs sentience, and it was proximity based.
why are pharloom bugs sentient?

How could they walk all the way to hallownest to capture hornet?
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>>720544878
Breakable wall don't look the same as normal wall and they shake and make a different sound if you touch them. If there is a way hidden in the ceiling in most cases there will be light shining through.
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>>720544895
if you have hook you can go right side easily
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>>720544845
Groal becomes easier when you realize that Dodongo Dislikes Smoke
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>>720544895
The fuck is that left detour just hookshot to avoid the shit water
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>>720544913
I agree. And even those two weren't so bad. Even Traitor Lord wasn't so bad despite the boss being a pain in the ass first time you come across him.

Too many people's first instinct is to whine, rather than breaking things down and then trying to get better, smoother, and quicker
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>>720544861
Enough with the fucking parries. There are enough games with parries.
If you want to parry so much learn to clash the regular attack.
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>>720544596
>>720544647
>>720544698
>>720544749
>>720544772
Absolute cinema right here
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>>720544876
>>720544904
The Fleamaster says I need to find a comfy cave for them, is this the quest that leads into act 3?
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Just beat Widow, this fight was fun as fuck. This game is excellent so far and I think it's because of the double damage allowing fights to not drag on because you can balance enemies to have less HP, and also because there are no weapon upgrades to trivialize bosses if you stumble on them in the wrong order. Also no double jump to trivialize some bosses as well (certain attacks). I am having a fun ol time.
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>>720544924
>Also use drones and tacks
Got neither, guess ill head elsewhere now
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>>720544895
>knows to find the bench
>too brain damaged to climb up the way you came from to find it
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>>720544991
You need to explore the Duct area
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>>720544995
Window was where my first day of playing ended
I had spent the entire day playing and was getting hammered by her
I decided to finally say fuck it and went to bed
Woke up, beat her first try
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>>720544995
you serious?
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>>720544991
All the way to the east in the Putrified Ducts.
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>>720545017
drones are in high halls, just bring craftmetal, tacks are in sinner's road
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>>720544995
>No double jump
Yet
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>>720544948
I assume it made them more "advanced" or have an even higher intelligence than other bugs, but it seems bugs have always had some sort of sentience at varying levels.

You have completely feral bugs that are like animals, some that are in the middle, like Huntress, and those that are more civilized like the ones we find scattered about. It could be any higher being imparts sentience, not just PK.
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>>720544258

At what point do they let you do this? I have over half, and I'm sure I've found a bunch more and still can't get this menu.
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>>720544991
That's not THE quest. You'll know it when you get it. It's not hard to tell which it is.
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>>720545027
>>720545053
Why spoil the solution, I was asking if this is the quest that makes the game switch to Act 3 so that I can leave it for later, I swear to god people can't read.
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>>720545079
You need to find a character in the ducts who will join the caravan and sell you the maps
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This game has so many fucking areas it was insane
>defeat boss
>new area
>fall down a hole
>new area
>find a crevice in a corner
>new area
>get tired of new areas
>go to make a sandwich
>open fridge
>new area
I actually 99%'d the game and didn't discover the fucking gay grasshopper zone until I realized I was missing the map achievement
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Someone said you dont need the fleas to move to the duct for act 3 to activate
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>>720544861
Also magic builds don't really come online until the last 5% of the game, I know there's more coming eventually but it would be cool to replay the whole game with Shaman and all your blue tools
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>>720544995
I'm playing HK right now to prepare for SS and there was not a single fight yet where I thought there was HP bloat or that dragged on. If it didn't die fast, I considered myself as too early for this and explored elsewhere. I got both white charm halfs so I think I'm basically done done other than Grimm and Godhome (not doing the latter lol).
So double damage doesn't help pace fights in this. It just prevents facetanking as a strategy to avoid learning the fight. This makes facetankers mad.
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>>720544991
>is this the quest that leads into act 3?
It's part of it yeah, the caravan needs to move to its final place.
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aaaaa lai lai laiii
uuuushkadoo
uuushkado
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>>720545123
>open fridge
Any tips on where to find the fridge area? I tried hitting all the walls downstairs, but could only find a small closet with a spool upgrade inside.
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Why are people even bitching about liquid lacquer delivery quest?
It is way easier than the expiring meat delivery quest given that you have the super jump by the time you have to do the liquid lacquer quest. I managed to do it in my second try.
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>>720543571
do you have to do mask maker to enter act 3';
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>>720545174
It's outside your mom's sex dungeon
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The delivery quest in Silksong is easier than delicate flower

There
I said it
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>>720545243
truth nuke
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>>720545192
Some of the voided citadel enemies were a pain in the ass to get by in act 3. Once I got by them it was no trouble
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>>720545226
no
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>the citadel is actually just one big cylinder music box
it's kino i'm afraid
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>>720545243
And that's a good thing
Multiple hits in exchange for certain heavy impacts damaging it
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>>720545240
>my mom's sex dungeon

wtf?? how many areas does this game fucking have, I haven't been here either
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>>720545243
Rashar isn't even particularly hard so long as you wait for double jump and pre-clear enemies
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>>720545174
Did you get the milk item, it'll cause a false wall to open up, it's really stupid it's the only time in the game.
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>>720545253
I found getting past them pretty trivial, as I just used the clawline and dash to evade them. Though, I had cleared the fucking clumped up body mass things out of the way beforehand
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>>720544895
I genuinely feel sorry for you
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huh, i got the apostate key and was like ok time to go back and do first sinner

only to check her location and realise shes behind a heretic door, so i guess i just didnt smack enough walls/ceilings
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>deliver mask maker his thing
>think I'll finally get or hear something interesting from of him"
>"thanks (fuck off)"
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>>720545306
thanks anon, gonna farm some rosaries and head to the store
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>>720545297
>pre-clear enemies
wow, what a shitter. I beat it in 3 tries without any nonsense, just flea brew + anklets
cutting through the spa makes the Citadel section a complete joke
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>heal 1 (one) more shard
>but it takes twice as long to heal
I paid 850 rosaries for this shit
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>>720545373
Just like me and my amazon delivery guy
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welp i wasn’t expecting that to be the final boss… where do I go now? Did I do that too soon?
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>flea brew
>flint
>lifeblood needle
>wanderers crest

YOU DIDNT BEAT THE FUCKING GAME
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>>720545373
Mask Makers can't talk naturally while still wearing their masks
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>>720545379
Okay and I first tried it with clearing the route ahead of time
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>>720545392
Double heal + Fast heal was a staple for me for most of the game
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>>720545147
I didn't think so either, but SS fights do feel a lot shorter. Thought it's been a long time since i played HK so I might be misremembering
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>>720542826
You are meant to. Bilewater is act 2 hunter's march. Do it early and you will suffer for shit rewards
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>>720545392
>put on quick heal
>put on double heal
>put on upgraded mirror
>detonate a nuke every time you heal
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>>720545342
You need to get kidnapped for the heretic key

>>720545392
We had a guy fiercely defending this charm yesterday lmao, and turns out he was a reapercuck (low silk generation so few healing opportunism, hence him relying on the 4 hp heal)

wanderer + quick heal is the best combo, but quick heal comes a little bit later, it's in one of the early act 2 areas
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>>720544836
idk about that
https://files.catbox.moe/lgo94v.png
this is better, I think.
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>>720541356
you are a retarded subhuman shill
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>>720545442
I'm going through with beast, flint, silkshot and longclaw. am i beating it?
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>>720545438
Do sum sidequest and find all the fleas
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>>720545317
Yeah I didn’t do that. Didn’t realise that stopped the pre-voided enemies until later
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>>720545438
Nah, do quests for the bugs around the map, eventually you'll have an alternative way to re-fight that same boss
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why do people struggle with the high halls gauntlet? i liked the fight alot but my playstyle is unironically only using needle, no tools or abilities, so learning movesets and dodging alot of chaos was something i was forced to learn against beastfly 1 on 5 masks 3 hours into the game.
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>>720545257
What's the deal with his quest? I can't be arsed
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>>720545502
oh, that was how i found the slab anyway. never occurred to me places would be locked off if you came across it naturally
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>>720544928
already finished the game but didnt actually find this guy. thanks for the heads up
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>>720542569
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>>720545438
nah, just go around doing shit and the way forward makes itself apparent
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>>720544652
It's not *that* bad. The movement on his spit projectiles is a little unfair at times, though. Takes weird bounce angles and/or goes off screen.
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>>720545546
Momento (i.e. Autism Level Completion)
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>>720545297
there's like 6 enemies en route
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>>720544712
Reaper has a damage buff?
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>>720545521
You don't need all fleas, just a lot of them.
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what is the appeal of the wanderer's crest
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>>720545537
Have people struggled with it? I thought it was pretty easy. Even the new enemy introduced in it was easy with pogo.
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>>720542489
You can also open up cheat engine and give yourself infinite health, like who gaf
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>>720545537
Because they think they can just spam enemies with attacks face on instead of having some modicum of strategy.

For example, once I learned that those spider niggers drop from the ceiling when you've got a lot of silk, I started using my spells more. When I realised that the best thing to do is kill annoying enemies then comfy kite and exploit the heavier ones for silk, the fighting became easy. Then the pair of big niggers got toolspam
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>>720545636
You play as the knight
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>>720545636
>fast attacks
>best pogo
>extra yellow slot
It should be obvious
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So how do you feel about the difficulty of Silksong? I like that the game is more difficult while going through it but also has a lot of neat stuff to find to balance it out in your favour as well. Makes exploration more rewarding and interesting compared to Hollow Knight where the game was never difficult enough until the literal giga post game bullshit where at that point there's no where to go.
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>>720545636
fast
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>>720545636
Ita the nostalgiafag crest

But also it literally has built in quickslash
If you played like a rabid nailcuck in HK then thats the crest for you
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>>720545636
Highest dps and HK pogo
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>>720545636
You don‘t have the attack speed of a snail
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it's a really fun fight once i decide to parry his tornado move
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>>720545546
he had a quest?
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>>720545602
When you heal. It does more damage and you get to regenerate soul
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>>720545636
for retards who just want their 200 hours in hollow knight to transfer to silksong so they dont have to learn anything new
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>>720545636
highest melee DPS, and even higher once your silk is glowing as it starts critting, and even higher still if you use brew or flint buffs
it really shines with longclaw and weighted belt charms
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>>720545685
>Highest dps
all are same
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>>720545537
why does everyone put trobbio so high, hated both versions of that fight
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>>720545520
>beast
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>>720545695
Trobio is a kino fight
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>>720545537
>First Sinner in S
Based.
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>>720545678
I feel like the difficulty is frontloaded
Really difficult until you get your full mobility toolkit and some mask/silk/damage upgrades right around the time you start getting competent
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>>720545636
Its fast and has an accesible pogo, not that complicated
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I like the fleas more than the grubs but the actual quest line itself was way shittier
>only get rewards at certain milestones instead of getting some cash for every one
>caravan keeps moving to more and more annoying places
>have to do some shitty mini games to get the actual reward
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>>720545745
wanderer can literally get out 2 slashes in the time it takes the other crests to get out 1
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what's the farm spot for act 3
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>>720545695
TROBIOOOOOOOOOO
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>>720545709
Character was made by a Make a Wish foundation Cancer Patient
He died a year after meeting Team Cherry and designing the character
He's specially mentioned in the credits
#### Kickstarter Backers
And
Seth Goldman
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>Just mentioning the Wanderer Crest is enough to make someone chimp out
heh
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>>720544995
>This game is excellent so far and I think it's because of the double damage allowing fights to not drag on because you can balance enemies to have less HP
So why do they have so much more HP than thy should?
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>>720544995
the weavers look so much cooler when they don't have their retarded masks on
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What's with grubby fuckin centipedes always SNATCHING stuff from my hands. So fuckin rude, wtf is their problem??
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>>720545636
satisfies the tards who were seething about the diagonal pogos
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>>720545761
hes got extremely obvious telegraphs that are fast enough that you still have to learn them, but slow enough that you feel like theres a fair amount of reaction time.
visually its easy to read and satisfying to look at, and you can fight him multiple different ways with success, hes just a good fight unless you don't like learning bosses, but then the same can be said for every fight in my S and A tier, if you don't like learning bosses at all this game is probably very mid to you.
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>>720541719
only if it's a game where he suffers immensely
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>>720544158
Do we get fast travel back after we find his cute offspring?
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>>720545745
They all do the same damage per hit and Wanderer hits faster
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>>720545695
I saw the credit and there is a guy literally named trobbio too. The fuck was the deal with that?
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>>720542489
Outside of forcing you to beat the game in one sitting, it's hard to "punish" the Save & Quit strat.
But yes, Steel Soul is pointless masochistic bullshit and you should use that strat if you want the achievement.
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>>720545678
>act 1 has too little progression for how long it can be
>weird difficulty spikes like the unraveled boss that has literally 2 attacks but the fight goes on for 6 phases and like 5 min, it's so retarded
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>>720545676
i actually think shaman has a better pogo
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>HONEST CREST
Hunter
Beast

>DISHONEST CREST
Wanderer
Architect
Shaman

>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING
Reaper
Witch
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>>720545649
>For example, once I learned that those spider niggers drop from the ceiling when you've got a lot of silk
Huh, I never really made that connection before they were gone for good.
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>>720545761
I think it's a combination of:
A) Very short runback
B) A fairly forgiving set of attacks
C) Conceptually hilarious
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>>720545836
weavers just look like Bacteriophage, dunno why Herrah and Widow have small heads
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>>720545846
ADHD
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>>720541512
Genuinely what's the problem with the savage beastfly?
It only has two moves. Three vertical tackles or three ground pounds. And the entire body is pogo:able and the ground pounds leaves it wide open for attacks.

Like genuinely. If you struggled against Savage Beastfly. Was Hollow Knight's Mantis Lords some kind of insurmountable boss battle then?
Beastfly is pretty much Vengefly tier.

I am genuinely wondering if people are being ironic about the Beastfly. Are people just joking?
Not only is the Beastfly pretty much Vengefly tier. But you're also way faster than in Hollow Knight. And let's not even get into the aerial heals that you can do in case you actually got hit.
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>>720545829
>Goldman
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>>720545829
I know that, but I thought he was just a boss and didn't know he had a questline
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>>720545864
>visually its easy to read and satisfying to look at
Hard disagree.
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>>720545879
Yes!
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Is there any rule 34 for this yet?
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>>720545906
plus he has pretty distinct attacks and clear telegraphs, which is the biggest separator between good and shitty bosses in SS for me
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>>720545919
most players are too retarded to deal with flying enemies with zero pressure, they utterly fail when they're flustered in a boss fight.
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Clawline is unironically one of the most broken abilities in the entire game.
It's the skill that completely trivializes Act 2 and every flying enemy going forward.
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>>720545939
You sometimes see people bitching out his high scores at the Flea Festival
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>>720545956
why do you need 34? You've got all the material you need in that one image.
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>>720545846
There's another collector later on and he's even more rude.
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>you can actually consistently avoid lost lace's telefrags

HOLY FUCK
THIS FIGHT IS NOW MY FAVORITE IN ALL OF HK
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>>720545968
>every flying enemy
>moves three times
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>>720545846
>>720545994
Why is it always the 'pedes?
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>>720545994
>another centipede
Confirmed they are all cuntipedes
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>>720542113
it's pointless anyways
you get no reward
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>>720545864
>the same can be said for every fight in my S and A tier
clock work is easy to sight read, not that much to "learn" and lace 1 went down so fast for me that i barely remember it, just have to jump and dash a lot i guess
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>>720545537
>lost lace
>perfect fight
lol no
troubled trobbio is a decent fight with a bunch of cancer special effects that make the fight more annoying than it actually is
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>>720545919
Savage Beastly has 2 problems
1) Flying Retard Shitcunt adds in an arena where good positioning is the difference between life and death
2) The charge is dependent on where you are vertically, meaning if you're mid air when he decides to line up his charge, he can do a charge that's too high to jump and too low to duck
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>>720545956
Hornet. Stripped. Bared. Caged. Shamed.
The escape segment is rad as hell though.
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>naked prison level filled with ugly bastards
>hot spring flea pervs on you
>nuu tries kissing you
why is pharloom filled with perverts
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>>720543203
That's a good idea. The rosary economy sucks.
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>>720545919
Savage beastfly after you unlock the harpoon is trivial. I think most players really just tries to fight it too early even though they can do it later at any point in the game
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>>720545994
why is the enemy version of this dude so tiny
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>>720546036
i also beat both of those fights my first try, but thats part of what made them satisfying, learning them that fast didn't take away from the fight imo, just made it feel good to execute
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>>720546047
>1) Flying Retard Shitcunt adds
They're just free silk.
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>>720544861
Shaman crest lets you have 3
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>>720546086
>greyroot tentacle rape
>needle dissection
>getting cooked alive in the moss druid pot
>getting hung up at bellhart

THE DEVELOPERS
POORLY DISGUISED
FETISH
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>>720546086
that hot spring joke really caught me off guard for some reason
what anime did team cherry watch in the last 7 years that they really wanted to put that in
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>>720543186
I got a mod for it
and yes, I beat the game
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>>720541512
I've come full circle on Beast Fly. I think he's a wonderful boss and I'm happy they have him in the game. He'll be gutted in the future, I'm sure of it.
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>>720544995
then your gonna LOVE widow part two, the first sinner
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>>720546091
Its retarded too because what happens is you dont need to discover shit anymore
All you need is to farm for like five or teb minutes and buyout the shops

At least forgedaughter had craftmetal shit going for her
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>>720546047
>2) The charge is dependent on where you are vertically, meaning if you're mid air when he decides to line up his charge, he can do a charge that's too high to jump and too low to duck
But it doesn't stop you from pogoing him.

But on that topic. Yeah. You can even manipulate where he initiates the tackles. Meaning that you're in control of the fight's pacing. It's an unironic advantage you have and it helps to deal with the adds.
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if you were a buge in the hkverse what would u be
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>>720545909
I don't think Herrah is a true Weaver, just a relatively close descendant.
Widow is fucked up because she was mangled and tortured, I would assume, given Hornet says she had stakes driven into her spine/shell to prevent her from producing Silk properly.
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>>720546053
What if Hornet was TRAPPED and BETRAYED and locked in the Slab for Millennia
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>>720543420
>26 deaths on lost lace
Does the game have a way to view how many times you die or are you guys just manually keeping track?
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>>720546193
a stinkbug
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>>720546184
I locked myself off from farming personally, made discovering rosaries more rewarding
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>>720546137
Don't forget the mixed bath with the shota
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>>720546193
Bloodwing Moth
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The nail upgrade is locked behind... LE TIMED QUEST!
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>>720545919
It's his spawns. If he spawns the big fly that can PARRY your attacks and absorb 4-5 hits while also covering a good chunk of the small arena.... you are fucked. The only way is to tool spam it to death fast enough, which is admittedly easy once you figure it out.
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>>720546053
>lock her up in a cage
>she just brute forces her way out
you had ONE JOB
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are the delivery requests required to unlock act 3? all i know is do all wishes, find enough fleas for them to move again
so far i have done:
beat first sinner
done every wish and side thing i could think of including shakra's master
fought the faggot frog
put the cogwork heart in the sentinel

anything else or can i go collect the final melody now
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stop reaper bullying
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>>720545891
>it's hard to "punish" the Save & Quit strat
i mean, the easiest way would be to disable quit and save if you're not at a bench, and then just delete your save if the game is closed any other way
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>>720546285
There's another oil you can get but I forget how
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>>720546252
oh yeah i thought sherma was a girl at first so i didn't think anything of it, but you're right
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>>720546086
There was another slapping scene, with one of the thieves, forgot where though.
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>>720546297
bro, your silk skills?
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>>720545829
>Cancer patient
Ah the little fucker was trying to spread the pain with that runback.
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>>720546086
>>720546329
She slaps the bug that wants to dissect her as well
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>>720546306
bellhart has the quest its pretty obvious.
You've done plenty, just do the billboard quests.
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please help
what do i do here?. there's a single locked door and those giant slugs

there's a one way door, i don't know if i should leave, cause it takes a while to come back
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>>720546193
that depressed bug below Bellheart
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>>720546053
Why is she brapping
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>>720546306
No, Couriers Rasher maybe but definitely not the others
And for interest, I am on act 3 and have not done the first and last thing you listed
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So can I still get the Whiteward Key in Act 3?
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>>720546362
nothing until you get a key. It'll be pretty obvious.
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>>720545956
What about this?
Any drawing for this guy crossdressing?
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>>720545956
A gangbang. Someone posted in one these threads
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>>720546362
>He also used the ring for keys
My bretheren
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>healed above the ground
>used other than starting crest
>used any tools
>used parry tool from phantom
>got more than 6 full mask shards
yep you guessed right
didnt beated the game
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>>720545956
>>720546053
Her poor vagina!
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>>720546350
Yeah, silk skills work too. The point of that fight is to force you to learn to not just rely on stabbing stuff with your needle and saving silk for healing.
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>>720546386
Yes.
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>>720545761
No bullshit in his moveset, despite it being very flashy. If you got hit, it's 100% your fault.
Short and safe runback.
No shitty adds in the fight.
Normal contact damage instea dof the usual 2 hearts.
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>>720545896
I honestly love my little brother and his simple yet deadly fighting style he kicked my ass with twice. Therefore Wanderer is honest.
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>>720546386
why would you visit songclave that many times and not collect the key retard-kun
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>>720546386
nothing is missable imo, besides maybe few hunter journal entries and Shakra fight
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>>720546405
>my pronouns are she/her
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>>720545676
>best pogo
I'd say that goes to shaman since you can hit from greater height.
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>>720546410
Share it
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>>720546351
what run back?
Its nearly a straight line?
Are you retarded?
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>>720546193
A scorpion. Haven't seen one of those
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>>720546478
True, but the shaman crest isn't even available until act 3
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>>720546454
I completely forgot there was a key to get to Whiteward. I meant the one for the elevator in the Whiteward.
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this kind of turned me on. what mean
https://files.catbox.moe/o28bf5.jpg
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>>720545846
they're millipedes
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>>720546528
shut up you fuckin NERD
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>>720545636
It feels the best
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>Pale King
>MOGGED one of the strongest known higher beings even for a few centuries/millenia
>created one of the greatest civilizations and is celebrated and beloved by his people
>three of his kids are so strong that they could all destroy a kingdom if they wanted and they're all still alive

I COMMAND THEE

KNEEL
>>
TROBBIO! or AGUNDAAAAA
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>>720541625
>Beastfly 2 is extremely honest game design.
Nothing about destructible platforms + lava + adds that spam even more hazards is honest game design. Beastfly 2 shouldn't be the hardest boss in the game in concept (being a repeat fight of a generic mid-boss), but it is, simply because it's an incoherent hodgepodge of bullshit mechanics.
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>>720545896
is architect dishonest if i'm using it for maximum MY DRILL WILL PIERCE THE HEAVENS action?
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>>720546574
Trobbio has flair
Agunda has better music
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>>720546309
it's weird that you get bullied for using one of the weaker crests meanwhile i'm a chad for using the braindead ones
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Groal without knowing the secret bench is the worst thing in the game. Savage beastflies are meh in comparison
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>The sound of a heavy metal ball slamming against the ground
I love it
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>>720546590
Pretty sure he meant honest by no RNG, which is kinda correct
Though I would say offscreen charge is not honest, though it is not that bad
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>>720546323
The fleas
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>>720546590
bitch there are tools at your disposal you can use to make certain fights easier. rage rune trivialized that one for me. it nukes the adds
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>>720546569
My fuarking hero...
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>>720546650
No another
In the citadel somewhere
I think maybe after the sliding block room?
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>>720546490
? Am I missing a bench because you don't respawn at the temporary ones.
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>>720546609
based
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>>720546590
All the mechanics in Beastfly 2 is consistent and manageable.

Beastfly 1 is a clusterfuck of adds in a small arena.
The ONLY issue Beastfly 2 might have are the offscreen charges.
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>>720546690
>Go left
>Drop down a hole
>Go left again
>At boss
anon how are you complaining about this runback it isn't even close to bad
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>>720546690
>run left
>drop once
>jump once (once)
>run left
what are you having trouble with you loser
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any missables in this game? i just beat hte cogwheel lovers and got the hookshot
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>>720546690
>you don't respawn at the temporary ones.
Pretty sure you do.
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>>720546725
a lot of missable bossfight actually
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https://www.twitch.tv/reirei_neon
please support my wife
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>>720546609
BAAASED LARP BUILD
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>>720546720
>>720546723
kek
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>>720546725
nothing that matters if you aren't an autist.
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>>720546690
100% you respawn at temp benches
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act 3 was a let down and so what the final final boss... like her again? And then the game ends with no lore no nothing

also, why was grandma bound and put to sleep before act 3? wasn't she the ruler?
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you wouldn't fuck an ant
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>>720546093
this is correct. hes not a bad fight unless you fight him on 5 masks with no tools no silkskills and no mid game abilities like the hookclaw.
then it becomes very dependent on what he spawns, and your ability to deal with up to 4 targets all doing unsynced attacks in your general direction at once.
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Just noticed all voice acting in this game was done by based Japanese
imagine if it was a westerner doing Hornet's sounds, you'd end up with EN Paimon lmao
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>>720546762
>uses the crest that trades attack speed for silk gain
>doesn't spam spells
your wife is retarded
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>>720546791
WHAT TF DID GRAND MOTHER SILK DO TO HER
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People keep saying how OP the combo of cogflies tool with the poison charm are. How do you get both of those?
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>>720546690
>because you don't respawn at the temporary ones.
You do.
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>>720546716
Nothing about it is consistent or manageable. You're fighting in a tiny arena that's made even smaller when it starts spamming headbutts, often reducing you to a single platform (or less) to fight on, while simultaneously trying to avoid the lava spitting adds *and* the Beastfly's giant hitbox. It's the single most unfair, unfun fight in the entire game by a mile.
Beastfly 1 is simple. You're given a huge, flat arena to fight in; slow trash mobs that can be easily worked around since they aren't input reading projectile spammers like the Beastfly 2 adds; and no field hazards. It's also much easier to lure the headbutts into the adds in Beastfly 1 than it is in 2.
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>>720546786
the weavers were pissed off at her because they weren't actually related.
All the silk surgeries ended up allowing grandmother silk to control and "haunt" dudes still though, and she's getting mad and roused now.
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>>720546791
smirking_omniman.tga
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>>720546762
chinamen like Silksong? strange
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Bros does entering Act 2 mean I can't go back to the areas from Act 1? The fast travel in the citadel is completely different
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>>720546869
Poison tool is at shellwood.
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>>720546791
This is the horniest fucking character i've ever seen, how the hell do these fuckin aussies get away with it????
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>>720546869
poison charm is in shellwood, cogfly is in the high halls iirc
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>>720546883
>the weavers were pissed off at her because they weren't actually related.
the weavers were just random dumb spiders minding their business until they got "elevated" by silk
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What tools am I still missing?
I have no fucking clue where to even search for them.
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>>720546762
why is this in chinese
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>>720546914
im sure you'll find a way anon
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>>720546919
Ey, gay too
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>>720546927
Remember that you need craftmetal in order to make the cogfly tool.
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I cheesed needlemistress with the wisp thingy and just dodged around
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>>720546993
Where? Architect?
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>>720546986
But the elevator broke and I have no idea what's going on anymore AAHHHHH
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>>720546954
https://gamerant.com/hollow-knight-silksong-tools-list-locations-how-to-get/
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>>720546993
High Halls
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>>720547013
High halls. There is a drop off part way in the areas and then it is on the left
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>make the pilgrimage
>somehow pass all the beasts and traps on the path
>pass the judge
>finally get on the elevator, about to enter the holy citadel
>elevator only goes down
what assholes.
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reading Silksong discourse outside of this place made me realize how garbage most people are at this game
most people wanted to nerf the last judge and the roof old lady mantis lmao
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>>720546993
No, I mean that you need to have the craftmetal item in order to craft the tool in the first place in the high halls.
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>>720546862
Isn't Reaper's silk gain only higher because of the post-heal silk ball generation? Making it pretty useless of spamming other spells.
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>>720546497
actually weird that there isn't a scorpion boss in either game, now that you mention it.
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Pale Nails are fuking OP wtff
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Lace 2.0 took me the most amount of tries so far. Probably like 40
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>>720547070
>and the roof old lady mantis
Shakra?
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>>720547070
>and the roof old lady mantis lmao
Who? Oh Splinter? She's a leafbug and unfortunately she already got nerfed.
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>>720547131
Sister Splinter, probably.
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what are you meant to do here? it feels like an upgrade for youer crest but there's nothing here but some panels that light up.

is it a music puzzle or something i solve else where?
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>>720545994
>never shuts up about how he's trying to derive information from them and bitches that his collection is still incomplete
>give him all the cylinders
>get literally nothing besides rosaries, not even interesting dialogue
I guess you get the gramophone for your house too, but come on
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>>720546791
Mucho sexo
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>>720547070
Even here people struggle with the weirdest shit.
People keep saying the high halls gauntlet is hard but I beat it second try and I'm at best above average at the game.
First sinner silk power and tools completely trivializes the big guys and the small ones are nothing special and also die to the same silk power easy. Honestly it does insane damage and the only weakness is that it sucks against fast bosses
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>Go to opera bitch
>Get my ass beat
>Go to seth
>Get my ass beat
>Go to coral gauntlet hell
>Get my ass beat
Act 3 is too hard.
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>>720546590
hardest boss in the game is The Unraveled, fuck that guy
>pic related
it's that guy
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>>720547175
take it easy one at a time, man.
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>>720547157
You run on the platforms from left to right. That's literally it iirc
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>>720547164
>tools completely trivializes the big guys
A rule of thumb is that if someone is complaining it probably means they're not abusing the tools. I'm well aware I can just use the cogbugs+poison to cheese everything I just don't want to.
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>>720547175
Isn’t that act 2?
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>>720547157
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9G1Mf6TZRs
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Magnetite Dice and Tacks my beloved
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Whats the best farming spot for rosaries in act 3?
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>>720547231
are you fucking kidding me? i was looking in all the nooks and crannies and playing the harp you have looking for some secret
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>>720547209
Even without tool abuse use the first sinner silk skill and just melt everything. None of the enemies are too fast to avoid it if you have good positioning and it does insane damage, especially against the big guys. I don't know why more people don't use it since it destroys slow enemies
>>720547271
I am shocked how dumb the average person is sometimes, but I can't talk too much shit because I missed an obvious thing too from being impatient and had to think on it after coming back later
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Tools costing shards is completely retarded.
Why they don't recharge after death I don't understand.
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>>720547271
woah ur dumb
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>>720547121
How? They even miss small targets like the last boss.
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>>720547209
Then what about the boomerangs or sting traps? Or floor spikes?
You don't need the cogfly to make short work of enemies.
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>>720547070
Over the past week in these threads I think it's been a 80/20 split of autistic people bitching about baby shit because their learning disability prevents them from trying new things while the other 20% talks about the story, gameplay tips, or just comments on the complaints that it actually isn't as hard as people are making it out to be
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>when you're getting destroyed over and over in a bile water ass section but you hear him in a corner
AWOOOOO
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>>720547335
Shards do kind of seem pointless in the scheme of things. Maybe if you used them to buy new tools instead of crafting them or used them to upgrade them, but currently is is just punishing to people who already struggle with bosses. Good players aren't wasting as many so they might as well not exist for them, or they have so many rosaries they have unlimited
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>>720547335
It encourages not to avoid enemies
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>>720547412
I love these dog fellas.
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>>720547070
>>720547396
Its getting better

I think people have unironically gotten good
Only Bilewater is the area everyone hates and rightfully so lmao
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>>720547418
Then maybe they should learn the boss before spamming tools like retards.
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>>720547431
>It encourages you to waste time
Correct
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Your wife has been getting her ass kicked by the Judge for the last 40 minutes
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>people hype up the flea minigames as hard and difficult to get champ in all of them
>it takes me at most 15 mins
You guys lied to me.
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God fucking damn it....
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Fuck they are smoking with this shit?
This climb was cancer, and what? i get nothing out of it.

I swear everything in this game is made to piss you off.
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>>720547485
Wait until Seth
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>>720547484
last judge sama and her big futa cock...
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>>720547431
>Kill big enemy that takes 15 hits to kill
>It throws: 9 shards
The balancing in this game is completely retarded. They don't playtest this game.

This doesn't make me interact with enemies. What I end up doing is farming rosaries at a station then buying shard packages. Or using cheating engine and 9999 shards.
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>>720547473
True but bad players are bad for a reason. Also good players don't use as many outside of bosses so they can afford to spam them.
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>>720546954
>He's not fought Punished Trobbio yet
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>>720547476
Yes, video games are a waste of time.
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there's a video of a guy doing lost lace in 1 minute with parry and electric attacks lmao
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>>720547473
>use your tools
>uhhh not like that, only use it when you'll win
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>>720547485
now do the real one
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at first I felt shame for looking up a questline because I couldn't be arsed, then I remember this exact rigamarole for every souls game I've played
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>>720547510
>i get nothing out of it.
You get to brag about it to the players who are shit and look down on them like the scum they are.
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>>720547571
Eh, it doesn't really matter. You would just waste more time if anything.
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>>720547527
>15 hits to kill
Only if you haven’t been exploring
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>>720547510
i also did this before doing mister mushrooms quest lol
at least theres a shortcut to the bench after cuz doing it a second time would have been aids
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There is legit no point to the shards

Just make it like mana that refreshes at a bench
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>>720547549
>juggle
annoying but fair
>bounce
easier than moss mother
>dodge
harder than any boss in the game
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>>720547271
Run my nigga
RUN
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>>720547546
>waste tools before learning boss
>duuuhh why don’t I have any shards
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>>720547510
>>720547618
wait what? isn't mister moshroom from HK? will i get an additional ending scene?
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>>720547606
I have two nail upgrades. There are enemies that are a complete waste of time. They drop no shards. This is not making me not ignore enemies, on the contrary.

I just go to the citadel station, farm rosaries with charms then buy shard packages.

This game doesn't respect your time at all.
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Uuuuuuhhh guys I thought Seth shows up in the Flea area. Why did he explode when I beat him?
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>>720547706
Sounds like a skill issue to me.
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>>720547460
Well it's mainly shitposting dying down and the first wave of players moving on to something else
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>>720542130
i like hornets reply to her, gives her shit for nor appreciating what she was given
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>>720547724
He literally doesn't, he falls in the water, I thought at first it was because they didn't want some dead guy's character dying on screen
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>>720547335
1. So that you don't just use the tools for fucking everything, and not just when something is tougher than usual.
2. So that there is a point in actually fighting regular mooks. With how super agile Hornet is, the entire game could have easily just been reduced to an obstacle course where you just avoid enemies. And that's already mostly how courier quests and speedruns are. But the way it is, if you want to benefit from the tools, try to engage with the combat to at least some degree.
3. If you actually run out of all of your shards, then you should probably rethink and consider a different strategy. Be it another strategy on where you're actually stuck currently, or if you should maybe actually consider an entirely different path in the fairly big world of pharloom altogether, and return later.


If shards weren't a thing people would just decimate regular enemies with overpowered tools without restraint. And with bosses they'd just slam their heads against them without even being careful and without restraint.
It's genuinely better this way.

Silksong without shards would have been the equivalent to Hollow Knight without its spells costing soul.
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>>720547668
It would make more sense to do this for sure, shards are dumb because architect breaks tools anyway even if shards are supposed to "keep it balanced)
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>>720547684
>>720547546
I have an idea, how we make tools have less charges but they use no shards?

That way you cannot spam them and you have to think about using them. And you don't have to farm shards.

Crazy, I know.
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You haven't broken you hornet statue, right anon?
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>>720547451
>dogs have fleas
>so the fleas are doglike
It's like pottery. It rhymes.
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>>720547684
>the boss is hard
>use ur tools XD
>but only when you already know the fight and don't need them
>>720547807
Have this man removed
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i'll be honest with how phoned in the third act was, i don't thin there will be a DLC
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>>720547785
My strategy is to farm shards bundles at stations because this game is complety retarded. Do not justify bad game design.
>>720547785
>People would decimate enemy
How about not giving them 20 charges or making it only usable on bosses, you can think of many solutions, not this crap that has shown to be a chore again and again.
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Do you have to do anything missable before completing ACT 1???

I abhore missable content as a concept but understand in a game like this it's possible.

I haven't explored The Mist yet and I hit only deadends in Bilewater. Haven't gotten more than Nail Art, Wallclimb, Dash, Silkstorm and Needolin of course. About to take on the Judge. I believe I've killed all the scary encounters like double ant murderers and the bead bandit in sherwood, both Tyrants and I even killed the ceiling bug in bonebottom/wormways transition.
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>>720547696
seems so, gotta play music in random places
no way to do it without looking it up
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>>720547775
Ah, my rage at that phase 2 must have blinded me.
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New thread where?
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in verdania i'm missing a fountain, i got the one in the bottom right hidden and the one in the top left corner with the plants jumping
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>>720547785
>would just decimate regular enemies with overpowered tools without restraint
I do this already because farming rosaries leads to unlimited shards anyway, and you get a ton of rosaries if you are just exploring in general since you have to kill so much stuff to hit walls and stuff in peace. Shard system is worst than making them through silk like healing works especially with architect being able to replace spent ones without even resting
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>>720545636
Simple is best.
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>>720547887
Only things you might miss are some conversations between special characters moving from place to place
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Nope the transition from act 1 to 2 is basically just a formality. You can't miss anything permanently until you go to act 3.
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Yep, it's gaming time.
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>>720547549
These games are so, so much more fucking annoying now that they FUCKING PATCHED OUT DOWN+JUMP
WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY?
WHY
WHY
WHY
WHY
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>>720547907
Middle right under the spikes
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>>720546193
Tarantula hawkfly bait.
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>>720547618
How do you start the mr mushroom quest?
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>>720547957
I prefer the 3 throwing daggers
Where's your extra free charm slots?
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>>720547816
Never. Nor the Pristine Core
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>>720547549
How do I get Seth there, I found him outside the bar, is the path he takes to get there sensical or do I have to go to some random places in the world
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>>720546193
Some kind of moth. I just think they're neat.
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>>720548004
you need a way to go very high up.
It's at the pale lake.
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>>720547772
Is she thinking of lil' bro here? Or is it just a conclusion she has come to after having lived for a few ages?
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>>720548004
Above the lake at the far end of the purified waterway. I assume you can find him without that though as it just gives you a riddle, not an actual checklist.
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>>720547335
Shards should only be something to recharge your tools while exploring and lost when resting or dying. Benches should always restore all tools usage.
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how much time has passed between HK and SS? Years? Centuries? Hornet was already ancient when Ghost appeared in HK right? So that means the Pale King stole a weaver wife from the citadel many many years ago?
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>>720548004
Act 3, with the super jump
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>When the moth dies in hollow knight 1, she explodes into essence and one single little lighting moth
>every robot in the citadel has a lighting moth fly out
what the fuck does it mean
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>>720547939
Okay thanks. I am kinda dragging my feet scrubbing all I can in Act 1 because I love it so much and people mention things falling off with each new Act.

Blessed be the path, may my shell harden it if the Judge deems me unfit to enter the citadel.
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https://strawpoll.com/e7ZJaXvLYg3
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>>720548116
the weavers were in hollowknest before pale king turned up. Pretty much every clan was.
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>>720548093
Probably most of the vessels in general
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>>720547973
How would that even help you at the flea minigames? It actively trolls you on the bounce one.
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>>720548132
Grandma was extracting souls to use as lamps and cogflies
workers don't need souls when they have silk
btw what happened to the sentinel you build in act 2?
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>>720548093
Absolutely thinking of lil' bro. Nigger had it hardest, outright meant to be discarded "no voice to cry suffering", birthed by digging his way out of a pile of corpses of his brethren.
Having a mom that cares (though she's an evil bitch) is something of a sore spot with Hornet, with her three mommy issues thing.
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>>720547886
>My strategy is to farm shards bundles
>>720547915
>I do this already because farming rosaries leads to unlimited shards anyway
Or you don't use tools unnecessarily, and never need to farm.

>How about not giving them 20 charges or making it only usable on bosses
That'd be fucking retarded though. They're not meant to just be fucking boss tools. And if you're in a tight spot, you're meant to be able to spend tools even if they're a resource and not just a free win button.

It's perfectly fine as is. If both of you are fucking farming, then you're clearly doing something wrong to begin with.
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>>720548223
>though she's an evil bitch
no she isn't
now the root bitch in Silksong is a proper bitch
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>>720548198
they patrol around and beat up bugs for you, then they post a wish on the songclave wishboard.
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>>720548068
>beat Shrine Guardian Seth
>find Seth in Greymoor
>find Seth in Shellwood
>find Seth in Grand Gate
>find Seth in Fleatopia

mine skiped grand gate part for some reason
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>>720547974
i dont get it
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>>720548116
Centuries, I believe.
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>>720548242
>Or you don't use tools unnecessarily, and never need to farm.
I did for a bit whenever I was thinking about what I should do next or when some other wishes required it like getting pins from servants, or cloth, or the meat wish. I only really "had" to farm around the mid part of act 2 when I couldn't afford a key and it was also because I wanted to procrastinate on doing other areas like the mist.
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>>720548340
i wonder if hollownest managed to rebuild in the years between 1 and 2
or is it still a shithole without the pale king
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>>720548339
try climbing up again and look to your right while you do it, retard.
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>>720548325
Ah thanks, I would have expected he'd go up the Sinner's Road > Bilewater way, glad I didn't end up exploring everywhere there for him
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>>720548116
Some weavers escaped. It's one of the lore harps
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The seth bossfight definitely plays the same "crack" noise when he wakes up as you make when dying while cursed right?
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>>720548401
Did the pale king even die permanently? It's not like he got VOIDed
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>>720548362
Well. Farming because you genuinely don't mind is one thing.
But these threads, and presumably elsewhere, are full of people crying ceaselessly over shards and rosary resource supply and how they're supposedly farming them all the time even though they don't enjoy doing it.
And it just baffles me.
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>>720548242
It's not fine as it is, you are just an autist. Maybe you enjoy hitting a wall sponge for 5 minutes but we want to actually play a good game.
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>>720545896
What's wrong with Reaper?
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>>720548474
anon....
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>>720548474
That point is still incredibly vague, I believe.
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>>720548407
hey thanks, found it
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redpill me on shaman, should I bother?
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>>720548450
i remember reading a relic that said something about the grandmother sending some weavers to a king? or maybe i misunderstood
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>>720548474
He got voided.
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>>720548508
It's not bad, but it's a bit of a noob trap, it doesn't do a lot of damage with how slow it is. And you can't even heal that much compared to other crests.
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>china girl still at the Judge
>has yet to reach her last stage
kek
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Still no art of lace eating hornet's silk spaghetti...
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>>720548495
>Maybe you enjoy hitting a wall sponge for 5 minutes
1. Bulky enemies don't take anywhere close to several minutes to kill. Silly dumb and misplaced hyperbole.
2. When I did run into bulky enemies, I DID use my tools. But I DIDN'T otherwise.

And that's why I never ran out of shards.
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>>720548621
I just like the ez mode dive and big knockback.
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sorry conchfly mom and dad. but i had to do it you attacked me first and your kids killed me more than some bosses
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>>720548482
Doesn't help that most people are retarded with them, lose them on death, or similar.
I never bought mask/silk upgrades unless I had tons of shekels or unless the next one was the one I needed for an upgrade.
I only lost a rosary count of 150 or above twice
I still think shards are a shit system because they only punish people who are already retarded, I would have preferred if you could spend silk to make more whenever and if they auto recharged on benches with shards being for actually buying the tools, upgrading them, etc. With or without them makes no difference to me but it is annoying to have to go and buy a ton of bundles, I can't believe they don't let you bulk buy like 20 at once with how much you can use tools when you are rich
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do I need double jump to make it here in Greymoor? Or do I just suck at parkour
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So weavers can pretty much make anything out of silk?
But their silk supply is limited by the strength of their souls?
And more complex creations might also require more elaborate weaving skills, which could be a limiter for some?

Is that basically it?
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>>720548651
Nigger, we are telling you, a big enemy drops maybe 10 shards, normal enemies drop 1 or 2 and using your tools fully consumes almost 100 shards. This is not good. If you use tools you have to farm like crazy and going solo nail makes the bosses become health sponges.
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>>720548676
Thing it with similar moveset, you have wanderer who will kill things way faster and is better in platforming. Only drawback is you need to learn to position yourself correctly to not get hit with contact damage.
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>>720548778
wanderer is pindick, boring.
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how are people so shit they end up with no shards? you can even buy shard bundles and even then you still find a good amount of them
i used tools a lot and i still finished the game with four 140 shard bundles and lots of 80 shards bundles
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>>720545896
Witch wasn't that bad when I got used to being leeched for 3 bosses. Honestly even not even being able to heal or use any tools it did good damage
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>>720548759
if you aren't retarded the resource management is fine.
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explain to me again why is silk so magical and special in the world of bugs
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>>720548851
Cogfly spammers.
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>>720548156
>more than a third picked Wanderer
damn, /v/ really is full of shitter scrubs.
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>>720548893
literally because it all came from a real goddess
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>>720548851
I didn't have a problem, but can quickly see it becoming one if you are struggling, it's not good game design.
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>>720548893
it comes from a god
injecting it into people makes them near immortal.
it can literally create life.



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