>vast world map>good stories>thousands of interesting characters>gorillions game mechanicsIf the East can make Genshin Impact and give us for free, then why can't the West?
Too occupied with Shizoism and ideology wars.
>>720547467What the fuck is "Shizoism?"
>>720546545takes a ton of work and there's guarantee it would succeed
>gacha shit>goodKill yourself seanigger
>>720546545>then why can't the West?Sony triedthey had a half dozen gaas coming out but the first few flopped because the characters were brown, ugly and the females were dykesthen the rest got canceled
>>720546545Nice try but I played this game for 30min and it's irredeemable gacha slop all around. It just has a big map.
>>720546545My thought is more that if Genshin can amke billions with a predatory gacha that has relatively simple mechanics and exploration, why can't a Skyrim-type game exist with the same level of polish but without all the predatory systems? It should be possible on just a basic $60 - $80 box price + expansions instead of live-service free updates.
>>720547758Calm down tendiebro or I will make another thread
>>720547761Sony never tried making a genshin like game. They were making shitty multiplayer games.
>>720546545now remove the stamina system and make the gacha system use the in game gold that's used for other things and is easily farmable
>>720546545>gacha>westI already have a job and a personal car. No need to play games on the way to work like a true slave life.
>>720548243Are there any genshin private/local/emu servers that can do that?
>>720547961because people only play gotchas to spend money on jpegs to stare at mindlessly. the west isn't going to make a game with anime characters which is 99% of the reason anyone cares about them.
>>720548309I think a year after genshin came out I saw people talking about offline private servers where you could give yourself infinity rolls and shit but I haven't kept up with it
>>720546545Doesn't it have one button combat and is more reliant on whatever you've rolled than any application of skill?
>>720548473I haven't looked deeply into it but I remember at the time you could do things in menus and stuff but there was nothing in the world, all the NPCs had no code and events didn't work (since that's the stuff that runs on the server and needs to be emulated). You could explore the world and that was all.I was wondering if the projects had advanced farther since then.
>>720550059all I remember is seeing people post cracked c6 5* characters with near impossible artifacts but I never really looked further than that
>good stories>thousands of interesting characters>game mechanicsHoly fuck kill yourself immediately you fucking retard.
>>720547761weebfag being catastrophically incorrect as always
>>720546545>If the EastMost of the East can't either.
>>720550646about?
>>720547961 Because publishers don't want to take that risk. It's easier for execs to go "just add a battle pass and shove in microtransactions" than commit to an actual polished open world RPG with no ongoing monetization. Genshin only got greenlit because gacha whales were already proven addicts. A Western Skyrim-tier game with anime aesthetics and none of the casino garbage? Execs would laugh you out of the room unless someone else does it first and makes a billion.
>>720549030>Doesn't it have one button combatNo.>is more reliant on whatever you've rolled than any application of skill?50/50A gigashitter will just die in the Abyss even with the best characters. And someone who knows what he's doing can clear it with shit characters.
>>720546545The west is completely incapable of making a visually appealing game like that with characters people want to see is the problem. Too many political, cultural, and investor related problems to count
>>720546545RuneScape
>>720547541it's like Shintoism but all the spirits are inside your head
>>720547961That game does exist. It's called Zelda: Breath of the Wild.
JAHODA SEXO
>>720552953>botw>expansionsthey sold that for 70 bucks, tendie
>>720553048And?
speaking of, is Age if Imprisonment an alternate timeline again or real canon?
>uninteresting gameplay >gachakys
>>720553097botw does not fit the criteria of the post you originally replied to
>>720546545>vast world mapYup>good storiesLOL nope>thousands of interesting charactersLMAO nope>gorillions game mechanicsNot a good thing
>>720546545Wrong and wrong.
>>720547761Jahoda mating press
>>720552864What does that have to do with shizo? Which is apparently a leafy vegetable?
>>720546545Gacha isn't as good as real games yet. Even the best one, wuthering waves, still falls short. It comes close though, and I can see some of the upcoming gachas being able to make that distance.
>>720547961>predatorywhy do redditors love this word so much?
>>720554612you lost so hard
>>720546545go back to your corpse village, monster
>>720554803Remove your mouth from hoyo's anus, lil bro. Hoyo has 3 money printers now. They're not going to push the genre like they did with genshin years ago anymore. They don't have to. They just have to phone in updates and collect their money. Wuwa is pushing the genre because they don't have any money printers. Gachas like ananta and silver palace look ambitious because they have to be.
>>720555085Your "genshin killer" masterpiece isn't even known outside of the gacha sphere. Maybe they should've been more original instead of just trying to copy genshin. That's not how you dethrone a king.
>>720547761Lootgunners aren't games
>>720547541When you make a philosophy out of being paranoid all the time and seeing enemies everywhere I suppose.
>>720555217I'm not defending wuwa, lil bro. I'm saying gachashit, as a genre, is still relatively niche. Hoyo brought in the normalfags with genshin, but they quickly leave because the game still play too much like gachas.
>>720554889
>>720555085>Wuwa is pushing the genreHow?The only notable thing in that game is the updated character graphics.Gameplay is somehow even more braindead than genshin since there are no elemental reactions.
>>720555085>Gachas like ananta and silver palace look ambitious because they have to be.Not trying to defend mihoyo but when the fuck is all that shit coming? Same with DokkeV, 5 damn years posting bleak updates and trailers but still no release date. I'm starting to think half of the open world gachas that have been shown the last few years insinuating a competition to Genshin are money laundering schemes.
>>720547761>>720551158>>720554450I want to have sex with Jahoda.That is all.
>>720553287>It should be possible on just a basic $60 - $80 box price + expansions>$60 - $80
Can anyone give me tips on Nahida and Yelan echo challenge? I'm retarded.
>>720552030Genshin got greenlit because the devs were willing to bet their company on making an open world gacha game. Mihoyo was not a huge company pre Genshin. They didn't expect they were going to make triple their investment back in the first month after release. I might be wrong, but I'm pretty sure Hoyo was also one of the first, if not the first, to make a 3d action gacha game with HI3.
>>720558664botw was 60 and had a 70 dollar expansion
>>720559067Which is in the range of 60-80. Are you dumb?
>>720546545Too busy virtue signaling and filling everything with minorities (unironically), all of the real, passionate directors and artist have been kicked to the curb in favor of maximizing market sizes and profits. Our industry is absolutely cooked and killing itself. When is the last time you saw a triple AAA game that wasn't dogshit? It's no coincidence that every time a banger drops its from an indie studio lately.
Botw also forces you to buy a shitty console
>>720562228Its not a bad console
>>720546545interesting characters like chasca and emilie
>>720559004>Genshin got greenlitGenshin was self-funded. They just saved up enough from Honkai 3rd development to make an AAA game.If Genshin tanked, it wouldn't destroy the company as such, they'd just lose their entire war chest and have no way to up their game in case the game started falling in popularity.
>>720555085>>720555483>lil broWhy do all the western Wuwa players use this phrase? Genuine question.
>>720563867cause it's annoyingthey live to shitpost and bait
>good stories
>>720564516most world quests are pretty good if you have the attention span for them
>>720563867inferiority complex
>>720564516Come, Chosen of Dragons...
>>720564516Genshin is a mixed bag, but which game isn't?By sheer volume it does end up having a good bunch of fairly memorable pieces.
The last time I did a character quest was for Furina.Which characters quests since then have been worth doing?
>>720567363None of them
>>720567624Well, glad I didn't miss anything then.
>>720567805I was going to answer you but it appears you are a retard
>>720568180Well okay then, thanks for nothing.
>>720546545humiliation ritual
>>720567363Clorinde was better.
>>720556326Presentation and production value. Wuwa puts more effort into making the story stuff look like something you'd find in a real game.
>>720570939Not really. There's some decent spectacle in there in places, but the story itself is just so inane that none of it matters in the end.
>>720546545where’s our FVARRRKING HERO?
>>720570939but wuwa bros brag about being able to skip that
>>720571105I'm not talking about the content of the story, I'm talking about the presentation. The cutscenes, in a nutshell.
>>720571748The cutscenes in Wuwa are vapid nonsense, thougeverbeit.They look quality and the music makes you think they're supposed to be emotional, but if you stop to think about what's actually happening, they're kinda retarded.
>>720571892>if you stop to think about what's actually happeningsighI just said the content doesn't matter.>They look quality and the music makes you think they're supposed to be emotionalThat's what matters.
>>720546545Isn't that just some gacha garbage?
If I were a good artist I would draw porn about gacha's NPCs instead of the main girls. Alas...
>>720572890Yup. But I like it.
>>720573428me making sure the place is clean for the nice lady
>>720546545>>good stories>>thousands of interesting characterslolI'll give you the other two, but those don't make a good game
>>720546545Genshin is just chinese Warframe with an even worse way to get more charactersI will not be elaborating further.
>Uh oh! You got within 50000 feet of a cutscene trigger while flying around! Time to be forced to drop the the ground and die of fall damage!Why can't I just talk to the NPCs to trigger quests?
>>720554450>>720558474I want to give my hotdog to Jahoda
>>720574075too bad she's anemo
>>720573935Because then you'd walk right past the NPC and never trigger the quest.Hoyo's wagies worked hard on making those! The least you can do is start the quest and put it in your journal..
Horrible OP for a Genshin thread, try again later.
>>720547961Skyrim exists though.
>>720574158what element did you want her to be?I am more upset about her probably being a 4 star
>>720574158What was the last decent Anemo unit? Birb Mom?
>>720571748Unreal Engine has its perks. Not being burdened by five years of past content support, a tight schedule and messy codebase is also a boon, Genshin's dev kit was already a mess when it leaked back in 1.5, imagine how it is now.It will need a sequel eventually. Or major engine update.
>>720574293bro, your chasca?
>>720573935devs find it incredibly funny to kill players
>>720546545>free so it's worth spending your timefalse>vast open world so it's fun to explorefalse>thousands ofplease stop>gorillionskys
>>720574232he only hit 5 hydro 4*s in the last couple months and there were only 2 for the longest timebut really she coulda been anything other than anemo and geo>>720574293I've gotten a lot of use out of lan yan because I got citlali's weapon for her
>>720574434seethe
I recorded Dori's conversation and it lasted 13 minutes on auto. Paimon's lines were all single, fairly short sentences that lasted 4-6 seconds.I want to see the behind of the scenes for her japanese VA because she's pure insanity.
>>720575132The noises she makes are pure ear rape.
>>720575132I love this stupid screeching gremlin
>>720575239Yes, and it's great. Best performance out of every character.
Dori yap vs Yunjin singingwho wins?
>>720575291Dori instantly went catatonic when reminded of the six million...
>>720575376>who wins?deaf people
>>720575376me, the raper
>>720546545They're trying their hardest to not make it fun to explore.
>>720574293Chasca
Here's your Genshin killer bro
>>720575701I still can't believe the starter gun was the most powerfullike how do you mess up that badly?and I thought with all the colors and textures they could easily go f2p and sell the cosmetic shit
>>720575701the only thing i remember from this was flying around in an iron man like suit and some middle eastern looking bazar
Here's your western Genshin destroyer bro
>>720546545>>good stories
>>720546545>good stories
>>720575701What is it with hoyo CHADS and thinking every game released is meant to kill Genshin? Victim complex?Is furry hitler also a genshin killer?
>>720546545West has DEI problem. Can't make game that has only attractive characters
sex
paizuri
>Leave genshin chinkpact to us!
>>720576852ugh I just saw she's a bow user on top of anemo talk about a double drag
>>720577614Faruzan is one of the most fun characters to play with. But yeah it sucks meta wise.
>>720577614Bro, you're Chasca?!
>>720575132>her japanese VA because she's pure insanity.her voice sounded really hoarse by the end
>>720575701>Here's your Genshin killer brotime for this classic
>>720577985Boy, 1.1 Genshin feels like 5 years ago, but the rest on the list sure does not.
>>720577748I never really bothered with faruzan and quit using venti long ago
Ineffa has been super cute this patch, I'm glad I didn't skip.
>>720577985i loved cyberpunk 4 years later
>>720578187
>>720578269i mean... she asked for it
>>720546545>>good stories>>thousands of interesting charactersAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>720578269Aino is just too powerful.
do you think we'll get more big booba ladies from now on?
>>720577951>>720559067>>720556271>>720554889I miss these little retards so much. Still angry we didn't get a single playable one no Shitgewinne doesn't count
>>720578771we got Curve back in Nod Krai anyway
>>720578903Surprisingly well stacked
>>720578769I don't see why not. It would be lore accurate.
>>720575132>I want to see the behind of the scenes for her japanese VA because she's pure insanity.Isn't the girl a former game journalist? I vaguely remember it was either Famitsu or Dengeki having this old 2000s show with a guy reporter+girl retard dynamic and she was playing the retard. Playing a retard but not actually being one (more or less Dori's thing), she ended up making friends in the vidya industry and got famous for using that impression in games, becoming FGO's mascot.Or something like that... I really don't remember the details but this girl is actually much more /v/ related than most of the cast.
The same people who play this play Destiny or Warframe tho
>>720578187haha dumb robutt
>>720578903The punishment would be swift but the rape would be worth it.
>>720578945>>720579118big doll booba
>>720579109That's no way to speak to the Sovereign Dragonlord that saved all of Nod-Krai.
>>720579412She was a Dragonlord but no a Sovereign.
>>720579073OK, she did her gremlin impression for Famitsu, but it was hardly her first outing.>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPlyMYovvQA
>>720579412That sequence was fun but it kinda screwed her over. They could have given the thing a little more juice leftover to make it look like she helped a bit more.The guys down there would hold out easily even if the gun fired at them in full. This was but the last second or so.
>>720580279Well, you could say she broke it by moving it like that.
>>720579796Sovereign Dragonlord =/= Dragon Sovereign>>720580279It was less about holding out and more about minimizing the amount of energy Rerir could absorb, but yeah, they could've had the canon fire for a while longer.
>>720579109In what way is this fun for Ineffa?
>>720580279My understanding is that she forced a manual stop by pointing the thing upward. Presumably, it's not meant to actually function that way.
>>720581989Anon, you can't question the dragons' motives. They're a weird bunch.
>>720581989She's a dragon robot. They're a weird bunch by default.
>>720582662Yeah, I can see it? Rewatching the sequence, it does appear like the thing actually starts lessening the output the moment it starts moving.But they could have made that a bit more obvious, I'm clearly not the only one who saw it as her being a little too late.
>>720570939>le graphixyou can't be fucking serious
>>720582980I'd imagine this is more or less what Aino meant when she initially came up with this plan. Get to the top and force it to physically stop. The cannon has force stop protocols in place, but doing it normally apparently would have blown Nasha Town sky high. This was apparently the safer route, albeit presumably more stressful for the cannon.
So what I'm getting is that in the absence of a formal governing body, Aino is actually the top dog of Nasha Town, while Nefer is the queen of the underworld. Nefer also works behind the scenes to discreetly support and protect Aino. Aino isn't the de facto head of state, but her robot army apparently has the power to completely ruin Nasha Town, and she's dangerous enough that even the Northland Bank doesn't want to deal with her. Also, a lot of Nasha Town's current infrastructure and defenses are completely dependent on Aino to function.
>>720583381
I really dont like that Lauma uses stamina for her deer sprint
>>720583098>The cannon has force stop protocols in place, but doing it normally apparently would have blown Nasha Town sky high. This was apparently the safer route, albeit presumably more stressful for the cannon.I mean the blowing up bit was from all the stored up energy needing to be released somehow. It's the same as any massive capacitator IRL.Once you power those things up, your only real option is to fire them off.So just bonking it wouldn't work, it would still blow up. She was trying to reach for those energy banks on the side, so maybe take those out and throw them into the sea or something?Anyway, with the thing firing off for a good while, just cutting it off by pushing the cannon and thus having it stop is fine so... yeah, it works out as long as you assume their plan was a bit different had they got there in time.
>>720583647I guess it was a two-fold plan. Like you said, she knocked out an battery before shifting the cannon upward.
>>720583646no fun allowed
>>720583646>>720583862We had too much fun in Natlan.
>>720583381The AQ suggests that Nasha Town is collaboratively run by it's wealthiest and most well-connected citizens (like Nefer) and they collaborate with Aino so she works to the citizens' benefit and doesn't assemble a robot army to roll over everybody on a whim.The event shows that she can and will do it at the slightest provocation though.
>>720583862>>720583912
>>720583646Tall males run faster than her anyways lmao
>>720583381>So what I'm getting is that in the absence of a formal governing body, Aino is actually the top dog of Nasha Town, while Nefer is the queen of the underworld.We're lacking any Voynich Guild characters right now but aren't they the ones running the town as per what we've heard before? The place exists for them, the funny purple seller guy also cautioned about them, etc.Though it's only going to become apparent once we get a character from their faction, or some later plot includes them as a major player.
>final wrap up before Nod KraiWhat am I in for?
>>720546545Game is fucking trash. I remember playing it on release and I just uninstalled it after some shitty dragon flying over the city fight or something. When people say something is soulless I can only thing of that time I played Genshin. What a shit game. Can't believe anyone can actually likes this.
I would like to trade Paimon for this cute little critter.Hopefully we can get one as a gadget.
>>720584340>I would like to trade PaimonNo, you wouldn't. We all love Paimon here.
>>720584015>Swap characters while fighting in Natlan>Get sent flying and start climbing the closest tree/wall, or get stuck under the geometry somehow
>>720584015I almost drowned trying to fly to NodKrai, had to wait for stamina food cd in water after they turned off my nightsoul.
>>720554450Jahoda wife.
>>720584382Total Paimon Death.
>>720584079I think the Voynich Guild controls a lot of the economy. The relationship between the Guild, the Curatorium of Secrets and the Clink-Clank Craftshop one of equilibrium. The three create stability in an otherwise chaotic and disorderly independent city-state. This is probably why everyone in Nasha Town is so respectful towards Aino. Plus, between Aino's robot army, Ineffa and ability to create weapons of mass destruction out of nothing but scraps, and the end result is that the Craftshop is the most powerful military force on Lempo Isle.Subsequently, the fact that Aino, Lauma and Nefer collaborated together in the recent incident is probably gonna be a semi-important plot-point, since it forms the beginnings of future mutually beneficial collaborations between the three, which will further strengthen Nod-Krai's ability to function as an independent body separate from the greater Snezhnaya. The Kuuvahki Experimental Design Bureau is controlled by Sandrone, so if she ends up collaborating with them as well, then that will further strengthen Nod-Krai. Once Columbina regains her strength and takes on a similar role to the Archons of other nations, then you'd probably end up with something similar to Natlan's government structure.
>>720584616I wish they'd stop adding big flowy coverings on their backs whether its hair or scarf or whatever
>>720584693It's done so there's something fluttering and shaky and key jiggling on their back while you run with a third person camera.Same cause behind the rattail epidemic of years past too.
>>720584542Yeah I got about halfway before I turned back and used Furina walk instead.
>>720584542>>720584847>he travelled to the new region instead of taking the cuck teleporterSame and zased
Here's just her rolecall.
>>720584693Yes, we need a back slut in game.Preferably with a bit of butt crack.
>>720546545Because the west is megacucked by following the cucked yids ideology (hot women and beautiful things is LE BAD because my ugly big noses mother castrated me). Just notice how popular Stardew Valley and the incest siblings games are because the characters are not repulsive to look at. Literally watch tv and every new actor/actress is fucking ugly so kids of course will flood to anime
>>720584667>independent body separate from the greater SnezhnayaWe're not supporting independence, anon. For one, Nasha Town is a shack with a massive Snezhnayan town (Piramida) and base (the research site) next by. And then there's the obvious problem that's not a topic you can write in miHoYo's position because of Taiwan and the various autonomous regions within China. A bit of a copout as far as lore reasons are concerned, but it's playing with fire IRL and they have no reason to risk it over a newly invented subregion.
>>720585270It's already there though. The Fatui are still antagonists and the people of Nod-Krai clearly don't consider themselves to be Snezhnayans.
>>720584263solid and phenomenal respectively
>>720584542>>720584847I used Chasca, Mavuika, Chiori, and Xianyun(anemo res) to make it to dry land. On my second try because I also forgot.
>install game>see character that I want to play>Have to gamble for them>use up all my free gambles>dont get character>uninstallAny similar open world games where you can just play whoever you want without gambling?
>>720547961>>720547758>Waaaaa waaaaa gacha>I can't control myself is so predatoryLol
>>720585410The thing here is that Nod-Krai's people are presented as dirty, thieving, untrustworthy, and basically every bad aspect you can be as a person under the sun. There's a few good people but it's essentially saying the people of Nod-Krai are rotten to their core and even the people in power are just as rotten (Nefer for example is regularly shown to still be partially doing it to keep her business afloat, not just for altruistic reasons and even looks down on Traveler and Paimon for being so altruistic) while the people of Snezhnaya are mostly portrayed as either emotionless automatons or underhanded at best but no worse. Essentially presenting the equivalent of Taiwan as sewer rats.
I hate it when they introduce a new ore type. Now I have to spend weeks collecting them.
>>720573935
>finish watching shoushimin hours before playing the new quest>get to the sibling part>Lumine gives off the same vibes as OsanaiBros... is Lumine a psychopath?
>>720585958right it's inazuma all over again trying to r5 these craftables
>>720546545>thousands of interesting charactersthis dude thinks attractive and interesting are synonyms>good storieshue
>>720586134Plus a lot of the weapons actually seem good this time.
>>720546545Protocol dictates that literally all of these points you made will be paywalled one way or another.
>>720586103Yes.
>>720585779Nah, you're overthinking it.It's just that tons and tons of people with Russian names already live in Nod-Krai and it's formally part of Snezhnaya. Projects got shat on for much less.And that's without Tencent literally running multimillion anticampaigns (something that's still in Chinese court ATM, with miHoYo suing them for it).Nah, whatever happens next in the story, Nasha Town, or Nod-Krai definitely won't declare their independence from Snezhnaya. I'm almost 100% sure of that.
>>720586297whether they were good or not I was going to do it anyway. getting them to 90 will probably hurt more than the r5 ore collection though
>>720546545Also, it routinely tops gacha revenue charts which ensures our favorite game will keep releasing banger content.
>>720586441I've already spent quite a few fragile resin farming for talent and weapon materials, since we're still in a period where everything is available all at once. I made the spear for Ineffa and now I'm wondering what to make next. The claymore seems to be a side-grade to Flame-Forged Insight, but it kinda suits Aino better so I'm thinking of nabbing it anyway.
So if I'm reading Lauma's passives right, then if you have two+ Nod-Krai characters on the same team, she losses the ability to make her blooms crit? It says the effects don't stack, so I'd be losing the first effect if I get the second, right?
>Whenever it starts raining, Aino starts crying.
>>720586781
>Check the fish shop NPC in Nod-Krai>No weapon, good.>But there's a furnishing blueprintOh FINE. Luckily, this one seems pretty easy to get. Not gonna bother with the rod though. I have the event rod that works anywhere. It's a crime they haven't rerun that event. I feel bad for anyone who doesn't have it.
>>720587463I started after the event happened and I have zero understanding why the rods aren't 5 and the Teapot one isn't 20. It's like they have the values reversed because the rod offers you basically no benefits after you get it while you get the Teapot item in like five minutes.
>>720582997>graphixthat's not what I said
>>720546545It's a war between pedos and guys who jack off to video game characters and trannies who want to make everyone ugly. Both sides are disingenuous. Gaming has become gay. What happened to the people who wanted great games, not weird sex shit.
>>720588184Are you dumb? Most transexuals on both sides are porn addicts
>>720578639
>>720586629I never really farmed for minerals until fontaine when I wanted to start r5 90-ing all my weaponsoutside of the new nod krai stuff, I just need to get 11 4* weapons from 80 to 90 then all my 3 and 4* weapons will be max rank and level with a couple exceptions like bp weapon and black iron sword
>>720553395Better story than 99 percent of games today. No idea what you are complaining about.
>>720588518I'd suggest not maxing them out just yet though. Occasionally, you do find a weapon just out in the wild. For instance, there's a minor side-quest in Natlan that'll give you a free copy of the sword. There might be something like that here too.
>>720571892Wuva tries to do a super dramatic conclusion without actually building up to it. Leading to a overdramatic undeserving scene which feels really strange.They should spend their budget crafting a good story over time instead of trying to make hype cinematics for sob characters every single patch.
I don't want to say recency bias but Nod Krai is the best part I've played so far in Genshin, I haven't felt this magic since playing the Chasm blindGodly music too
>>720588785I've talked to every NPC I reasonably can including with Lauma and the only thing that gives you any weapon is Hiisi Island's world quest's finale which gives you the Nod-Krai craftable sword.
>>720588343Looks like a rabi.
>>720585637>control myself just fine>use control over self to see it's not very good uninstall the game ok..what's the next step of your masterplan?
I'm glad they know what they're doing in regards to Columbina.
>>720584286You sound like you are 13 years old
Most of the west doesn't want these pedo gachaslop games, keyword most...
>>720588785it'll be a while before I do anyway because of the mining and billet requirements. there's 1 or 2 weapons where I've had much less luck on billets
>>720578771Always put ion my open ended survey questions "we need proper anthro characters" in my answers.We WILL get a Lycaon, Pulchra and Zhao equivalent in Genshin and we will love it!
is he ok?
Gachaslop games like this subsist on customers called "whales" who are all rich and potentially NEETs who throw all their disposable income at this crap. They should not actually exist anywhere.
>>720588309Either way it's weirdos fighting over sex games. All the people who want good games left the conversation. Can we get games that aren't filled with DEI, or some Weeb's sex fantasy. Wtf.
>>720546545>good storiesNo>Interesting characters They're cardboard cutouts with no depth nor personality>gorillions game mechanicsWide as an ocean, deep as a puddle
>Flins speaking GreekI did not expect that, what the hellI'll now throw my guarantee at him
This ZZZ reject is the Fatui's bitch.
>>720589754he's just chillin'
>>720589754He's jorking it a little
>>720590114>the people from the surface who retreated to Enkanomiya during the war of revenge spoke Greek, before Orobashi riced them and switched to Japanese >the fae also spoke Greek, carrying it from Hyperborea and the Angels where they chilled in the previous Kalpa, before Snezhnaya Is Greek the original language of Teyvat?
>>720589754
>>720590825>Is Greek the original language of Teyvat?Khaenrians speak in Latin, tho. Fairly sure most every ancienty civilisation does with the modern ones usually writing stuff in English.
>>720589754There must always be a Capitano, my son
defend THIS genshinbabs!!!
>>720591787Khaenri'ah also had Norse names and they were explicitly outside the jurisdiction of Phanes and the Shades, they were doing their own thing. And then you have Remuria mixing both Latin and Greek, Byzantium style. Double the LARP.
>>720591602there must always be a capitano...
>>720591602Looks like the jetboarding from Jak and Daxter.
>>720589754He's still breathing which is weird for a rotting corpse
>>720592575proto-Iansan was so fucking hotwe got robbed
>>720590501She grew on me massively, both her design and especially her personality. Favorite character in Nodkraine so far.
>>720592575Her new design is way better. Doesn't even look like a fitness instructor in those clothes, and what's with a random ass tail
>>720592812She just looks fatter.Insert architect image here
>>720585635>why can't I just auto-win anything!!Grinding for characters is literally the only challenge in those games and it was too much for you
>>720592827She's definitely a stand-out character.>lovable fuck-up>oozes personality>sexo
>>720592575I was just looking at the concept arts. Pretty neat stuff but fucking hell, do people realise how old this one must be?Her design got slightly altered since the cinematic back in pre-release days but unless they toyed with the idea of removing her outright to fit modern Natlan more, this would have been made back with whatever OG Natlan was supposed to look like, alongside the other world-defining designs of the Travail.... But, except for the Hilichurl skull, everything else is pointing more towards them thinking of canning her OG design. WHich would be par the course for Natlan's approach to everything.
>>720592914>Escoffier>Ainowhat IS with those random ass tails??
>>720593063She's literally just the Inazuma postal cat though
>>720593146>other mistakes justify this oneNo I don't think that's how it works. You listing 2 bad tails doesn't make me like the 3rd bad tail
There's an invisible Natlan spiritway in Sumeru.Go try it and take some screenshots before it's patched out.https://youtu.be/VFduVwhEYgs
>>720592575She had a sex face
>>720593302I tried this but it made nerf gas
>>720592575Why? Iansan is pure sex and I'm glad they didn't change her design.
>>720593294oh no I'm being genuine here, what's with the tails??Mizuki actually has a real one and she doesn't even use it
>>720593505she was more sex before
>>720593302briefly saw that in my recsI'm just gonna ASSUME they're planning on upgrading older zones maybe?
>>720593302They should have combined Natlan and Sumeru grappling nodes, literally the same thing but with different button
>>720592575old design makes her look fat
>>720593684good
>>720592575Looks like a middle-aged Filipina.
>>720593629More likely they were testing the spiritways years before Natlan released and accidentally left one in Sumeru >>720593551Icecoffee's tail isn't real, it's some Doctor Octopus utility mek to have an extra hand. And to be a demon
>>720593048I'm sorry you never played a real game where you unlock characters through progression or requirements with actual design behind them so in your mind "challenge" in games means "gambling". Didn't win the lotto? Gotta get good!
>>720593684Great
>>720593294I thought aino's tail was like a dock ock arm
>>720546545Nothing's free retard, if you aren't the customer you're the product.
>>720594704it is
Nasha town is so FUCKING UGLY
>>720585635you guys remind me of those brats that would scream and roll on the floor when parents wouldn't buy them the toy they wanted
These are great.Also, they did bring Venti designs as well. Fucker used to look much more Paimon-y back in the day.So perhaps they really are old designs of Iansan after all? In turn with the tail and the idea of dragons existing back then, plus Natlanese being redheads... could old Natlan have been a story with Dragon natives and Natlanese colonists? But much more overt, with the mystery of the elfish ears in random characters coming down to how the OG idea about past dragon civilisation may have looked like?Then again, it wasn't that long between release and Enkanomiya establishing that vishaps were the OG inhabitants of Teyvat.
>>720595021Cutelani
>>720594963Looks like every other Soviet built city after (((privatisation))) neglect and gutting, reminds me of a town I stayed at in Bulgaria.Snez better re-establish jurisdiction and clean it up.
>>720589117I could lick and suckle those toes all day...
>>720595021post old venti design
columbina might be the first fatui I roll
>>720595626she's no longer a harbinger so you must roll sandrone as your first.
Asanagi moment.
>>720593563Categorically incorrect.
>>720595902I'll only roll sandrone if she comes with the big robot
>>720595264sexolani always distracts me whenever she was on screen, she's way too sexy
>>720546545It's impossible to build a team that big in the west without getting a bunch of narcissists and mentally ill peopleJust look at what happened to lab zero, and that was a small team
>>720595902Only after she gets correction.
>>720595507
EA added the same lootboxes to the starwars game and got them banned from several countries, making gacha trash be banned too.
>>720596490where are all these from? i remember a stream mentioning an exhibit in france, is that it?
>>720589560Hopefully, I'm going all in for Zhao around December.
WHO DID IT BEST!?
>>720596490Looks more like they were keeping him more similar to his original, Wendy. Outfit is extremely similar to Wendy’s herrscher outfit.
>>720599163Sandrone’s casual greeting was great honestly.
>>720599163Doc and Sandrone are the ones I think I will remember.
>>720546545Of your 4 bullet points, why would you put 2 outright lies and something that's extremely arguable as a "pro" instead of just saying some noncontroversial shit like>great music>hot anime girls
>>720599163Seconding Dottore. Being stuck in the loop only to "break free" and be confronted by him was pretty crazy at the time considering we jumped from No.8 straight to No.3. For what it's worth, Cheld had a lot of aura too that only seems less impressive in retrospect since the boss is so much easier these days and he's jobbed a bunch since then.
>>720584908Fischl downgrade with ZZZ animations.
I didnt expect the level 3 compass to be so powerful.
>character's name is Villainisamea>villain is a her... aBravissimo.
>>720592575what's this from?
>>720603309From a Paris Expolook at @aboutnodkrai
you're an entire region to late to imply fontaine had a good story ffs they had a "well shit happened and then we found it ANYWAYS-" moment just before the climax like bro are we kidding just delay the update if it's not done thanks for the literal slideshow ending too
>>720592575>brat with oni flairThis is way better than what we got.
>>720592673It doesn't feel like that but yeah I thought that too. I hope Genshin gets a character that's more similar to it, I loved that thing
Guys, I started playing last year, when am I going to get a chance to play as Klee? The last time she was available was in the chronicled wish, 1 year, 5 months ago
>>720596490>venti was a loliremember what they took from us
>>720603395>they could turn these into skins and make billions of dollars(unironically)>they don'twhy are they like this
>>720592575>>720603585she kinda looks like she's part dragon
>>720602318Did nothing wrong.
>>720592575We were fucking robbed.
I don't know why /gig/ hated Natlan so much, it gave us some of the hottest girls in the game.
>>720546545Funny how a thread like this would've never existed during sumeruIt took 3 patches but genshin is finally healing.
>>720604473"/gig/" hated every region
>>720604473Motorcycle Derangement Syndrome and general misanthropy.
>>720604473It's just trolls false-flagging as usual to try and make gullible players think they're as miserable as they are. Ignore them and enjoy the game like everyone else.
>>720604473I liked it more than same-shit-every-subregion-Fontaine
>>720604817That was unusual.
>>720546545Genshin ccp shill thread Nod krai already flopped just like natlan
>>720604595I made Genshin threads throughout Sumeru. Livestream patches and day 1 patches to discuss lore.
>>720555270Why can nobody spell schizo?
>>720599163Are these animations supposed to be interpreted as badass?
>>720546545Too bad they're all locked behind gambling, I'd pay $60 for a game with Genshin's content and pay occasional DLC money for characters (not chances to get characters, just characters). But dumb fucks can't stop blowing their paychecks on lootboxes
>>720607303yesthey are pretty cool in-game with full context
>>720607609If you pay $5 a month that's $60 a year and you can get all the characters that release that year. Or you can pay $0 and still get all the characters a reasonable person would want, or most of the characters.
>>720607609Theres no gambling, everything has as set cost.
>>720546545we already have old school runescape bro
>>720546545yeah man why can't we have an open world call of duty
>>720607640No, some of them are supposed to be funny, like Sandrone. She's sitting there on a high stool because she's too short to overlook the counter, and she's being tsuntsun, and in comes the introduction.
there is literally not a single gacha in existence with good writingawful chinkshit like wuwa, genshin, and especially AK are a given, but even gook and japshit that gachafags fellate like HBR, anything project moon, that NieR gacha, Umamusume, etc.None of it is ever goodThe medium itself bars any narrative cohesion
Why are you so naughty?
>>720608905yeah sorry lady but I'm BEATING my MEAT to you
>>720608905I cannot contain the naughtiness.
>>720604473sanitized disney-esq slop.
huh i was expecting wuwa shill on this post.wtf happened?
>>720610361Here's your wuwa shill post: I spent all day farming for Augusta's weapon and now I wanna kill myself.Also I don't care for Iuno.
100% the region yet?
>>720556326Teambuilding is more braindead, but execution is significantly more involved.Unfortunately transformative reactions as universal system mechanics aren't particularly relevant in genshin's meta, they're just tools to get you to buy new characters now. Lunar a shit.
>>720613775Crystalflies seem so much less important now.
>>720556326>Gameplay is somehow even more braindead than genshin since there are no elemental reactions.not that anon but out of:WuWaHSRZZZGenshinWuWa has my favorite combat, it actually feels fun. Genshin combat is fucking trash
>>720613486not even close
>Amphorus was widely despised when it released>Nod-Krai was widely beloved when it releasedWhy is this?They're both really long story-wise.
>>720604035Sorry buddy, two paid and two free skins a yearalso they're blue
>>720615918I haven't like a single paid skin yet. They're all terrible and worse than mods.
>>720615972>he doesnt like Klee's cute witch outfit.Pretty gay of you.
>>720616165Klee sucks and so does her skin, mods are way better.
>>720602318Unironically actually helped save the day.
>>720564516This, just go read books instead you retards.>What books?Uhmmm....
>>720579007We need more big titty Finnish girls like Lauma
>>720579007>>720617753akshually, not Finnishshould have been flat
when is the OST going to be available?
>>720619185Who said wood fairies can't be stacked?
Is Aino a viable replacement for XQ?Really tired of still having the Watertwink in my lineups after all these years.
>>720620129I think her hydro application is somewhat slow without a second Nod Krai unit.Shoulda just rolled a Yelan.
Why not make it truly free and allow us to get everything without paying?
Why can't we have someone who gives elemental infusion to bow users?
>>720620591Because making the game costs money?
>>720595991do you think she was gangbanged by fatui until they mindbroke her and so she joined because she couldn't get enough of fatui cock
>>720620591>Why not make it truly free and allow us to get everything without paying?/v/ moment.
>>720599163Dottore was crazy back then
>>720620718>>720620645But op said they can give it away for free unlike the west but they cant
>>720554612Good in what way? I dropped Wuwa after 2-3 months but I never stopped genshin because it does actually feel good to play.
>>720620853Nice.>>720620591They did.>>720620245>>720620129Columbina will be hydro probably. Yelan's been powercrept too, not good to roll for her.
>>720620853Robots cant jiggle!
>>720621017>Yelan's been powercrept tooBy Furina, and they're best on the same team.
>>720620853sex with robots
>>720620882Its got this epic slowdown everytime you press dodge.
>>720621061>Aino, remove my jiggle limiters
>>720621134And ridiculous amounts of particle effect vomit.
>>720621071I don't think there's much of a difference between Furina and Yelan. Furina is crept as well, just waiting to be replaced.
>>720621152RULES OF NATURE
>>720621243>crept by a character that doesn't exist yetuh huh..
>>720621316She so fucking cool...
>>720573428is her outfit in game?
>>720624738Yes, pepe was also added in a recent patch.
>>720603395where the tsaritsa leak?i mean concept art
>>720614565>use skill>switch when intro is ready for next character>use skill>switch when intro is ready for next character>so onIt's braindead. You think it's more fun because there are more particle effects on screen, like a kid entertained by jingling keys.
>>720625094You probably can't name a single more complicated ARPG lol. Elemental reactions with 4 character slots and artifact sets and weapons with abilities is highly advanced gameplay. Being reductive saying "hurr you press buttons and thing happens" doesn't change this fact.
>>720624924are you serious?
>>720625094Being reductive is the first resort of those who have no idea what they're talking about
>>720625880nta it's a really good system that's kept in a reductive state so the criticism is valid
>>720546545How do they do it?
>>720617615I gotchu, brother.
She'll be best with Lauma, is that right? What will be their best team?
What's her malfunction?
>>720555270What does that have to do with a leaf that tastes of mint?
love this jew
>>720593161Except Yamato Transport had no real plot relevance. She's a similar character but what of it if her character's setting doesn't let her be used in any interesting ways.Plus there's also possible avenues for development on her side as she's a Treasure Hoarder and once they expand those guys' story and characters, she can play a bigger role rather than simply being a plaything for Ara Ara nee-san.
>>720552864lmao
>bloom teams need healers>youll be losing a good team spot by using a healer instead of Yelan>just roll for C1 Lauma broWhat a jew move
>>720625367It doesnt encourage playing "well", just setting the reactions in the correct order. Once you figure the optimal rotation you might as well be on autoplay. ZZZ is much more arcade in style but it suffers from lack of content compared to the juggernaut of every Genshin major update
>>720546545>free
>running around with varesa>plunge down the roof in nod krai>my pc crashes as soon as her fat ass hits the grounddoes this happen to anyone else?
>>720546545western devs are mercenaries. they don't work for fame. only for money and politics. that's why asian studios are still rich and popular, even if some are bad now
>>720578769More? Sure, but it's going to be rare. Genshin doesn't try to appeal to coomers all that much.
>New book on Northland lore>Third Descender was supposed to be wed to the daughter of Fae Tsar (Tsaritsa), but got carved up into 神の心 (God's heart) by Heaven and given to the 7 gods.>We just saw a Khaenrian superman chasing down his own heart because that's the most important part for his resurrection.Okay, so that makes Seele a fucking descender (and Tsaritsa's reason to collect the gonses being to revive her)? How will they tie her in with the existence of seelies in Teyvat itself?
>>720599163I still remember Childe as being intimidating due to that cutscene and the fact that I first did his fight before he got nerfed. Going in, seeing him just standing there waiting for you to make a move, taking a single step forward and getting one-shot made for a very memorable experience. Unfortunately they nerfed his damage a ton, his health was always low so he quickly became a trivial punching bag and he didn't really accomplish much else until three years later where he demonstrated some stamina on the same level at Beidou who fought a sea god for several days and nights straight.
>>720604473Anon most of the shitposting in /gig/ is coordinated falseflagging. It's blatant as fuck because if you pay attention to several generals you can literally perceive the swarm moving around stirring the pot as directed. If things are calm in /gig/ I guarantee it's because the shitposters are currently active in a different general.
>>720631834I'M ALREADY HALF XEHANORT
>>720632008I watched my sis go through the fight recently and she didn't even get to see half his moves lmao
>>720620129It depends on your team comp. Aino functions perfect fine(so long as you have a second Nod-Krai) even at c0 with level 1 talents but if you need something like Hu Tao vapes then fuck no; you're going to be glued to Xingqiu forever. Arle? Yep, she works great.Aino + Ineffa is a solid core that works with a ton of different team setups.
>>720632008The latest weekly boss (the chess king/queen) can oneshot you easily so there is that
>>720631834This means that the tsaritsa had a grudge against the HP since before she even became an archon, or everyone else for that matter. Because the third descender was used to make gnoses after the great war of vengance I think, it's the one where the dragons come back for round 2 and job again. It could also mean this refers to another tsaritsa entirely, because otherwise our tsaritsa is way older than was assumed. I think the fatui were only establised post cataclysm so why wait so long to carry out the plan if the 3rd descender has been dead for millenia by this point?
>>720603830Who knows considering the next regional Chronicled Wish would be Inazuma. Klee herself is like using Qiqi in a team nowadays too so demand would be exceptionally low. You might luck out and they run her with Alice or something, but I doubt it.
>>720632439Well her father is a fae, it only makes sense for her to not be a human at all and thus be allowed to be older than the Archon War.She only got to power during Cataclysm. So she probably didn't know what went down until Cataclysm and once that happened, she either usurped or succeeded her father and started the rebellion.
>>720632794Then another question, which cryo archon did fight in the cataclysm then? The beyli tsar or was it the tsaritsa already. I always assumed the tsaritsa was mad at the HP because someone close to her died in the cataclysm now it could be the previous tsar who may have been her father.
>>720613486Yes, for two days now. 5.0 Natlan felt a bit longer by a day or two. I've also used the compass to clean everything else up. Now I'm just farming Fatui for their drops for the event weapon and Lauma.
>>720633104>farming Fatui for their drops for the event weaponfuuuuuck it uses those mats as well?lauma already made me farm...
>>720633321Elemental animals + new Fatui.
>Random resort island in Natlan is bigger than Inazuma island >Nod Krai (a small border region of Snezhnaya) is bigger than the whole Inazuma archipelago I don't feel so good Inazumabros...
>>720630028Dori, NO!
>>720546545West gave us world of tanks and warthunder. Both free to play and absolute leaders of the genre.
>>720633495>I don't feel so goodthen kill yourself
>>720615882genshin is open world with other shit to do besides walking down another corridor
>>720584908
>>720633728
>>720546545Gacha is the reason china's GDP went from 18 billion in 2020 to still only 18 billion in 2025 despite having 1 billion people. It literally destroyed Asia's entire economy by ensuring young men will have absolutely no future other than to spend disposable income on something that isn't healthy for the economy.
>>720634243It went from 15.1 trillion to 18.8 trillion and I don't know why I should care. I just like video games that are fun.
>>720634457In late 2020 it was 18 billion, either way in 2021 it was definitely 18 billion. Asia has no future, it's even a slogan online. "We have no future, give up", "revenge against society" etc. all because this business model took off there
>>720593956i mean getting free primos is part of the progressioni just got 100 rolls ready by exploring and doing quests in fontaine
>>720634623I don't expect you to understand Covid's impact on world economy when you don't even differentiate between billion and trillion. But hey, blame it on a gacha game if it helps you cope.
>>720634243That's 18 trillion. Of course video games are not going to make a dent in numbers like that.
>good storiesFucking no.
>>720634895What was wrong with Jeht's story?
>>720634731>>720634842See how china's growth sorta just fucking completely stops in ~2020 and USA's just continues to steadily grow like a normal ass gacha-free GDP?
I really wish the old Paimon didn't blow up her career with a virtue signaling different rules for thee than me, This new one is so bland and flat, I want my little gremlin back.
>>720635048please tell me you're trolling no one is that dumb
>>720635048the economy is tethered by the dollar, lil bubusa can print unlimited money
>>720635048There are a dozen reasons for that and none of them are gacha related.>Zero Covid policy>housing market crashed>western companies leaving>unemployment skyrocketing>gigaprojects failing>Africa refusing to pay debts>infrastructure collapsingChina is fucked and they won't get better, but not because of fucking Genshin.
>>720635135>>720635168>>720635187Let's just take a look at two more Asian countries who have no future due to gacha... OH MY GOD Japan's GDP is FALLING and South Korea's is just as stagnant as China's, but a random Western country's again is steadily increasing like a normal ass gacha-less GDP.
>>720635336Then what are you waiting for? Call the news and tell them the only way to fix the economy is to remove gacha games. You'll be treated as a hero.
Wait. The moon is fake?
>>720635336>these games that make insane amounts of money are actually tanking the economy!>somehow..Ok, champ.
>>720635676the entire sky isthere is some kind of bubble hiding the world from external interferenceabyss got in trough the cracks
>>720635775>someone is profiting that means it's good for the economyno one is this fucking stupid
>>720546545Jews and diversity hires
>>720584263>final wrap uptranny term
>>720635126Real chads play on KR dub.Anyone know what's up with Dain, BTW? We're out there resurrecting one of the sinners he identifies as the most dangerous beings in Teyvat... for 500 years even and he's just chilling, randomly beating up some abyss mages and hilichurl camps God knows where.Shouldn't he be like the front and center over in Nod Krai?
>>720635856There is no argument you can raise against gacha that doesn't apply to all entertainment.
>>720584916xilonen after her skill
>>720546545Too obsessed with catering to the 5% niche at the detriment of the remaining 95%. Unsustainable salaries fucking budgets beyond repair. HR departments having more power than CEOs in some places. Unions dicking around where they have no logical right to do so and sabotageing entire projects at the end of early dev. Exceptionally narcissistic and equally retarded """creatives"""" who only see concepts in stereotypes and tropes-I mean there's a huge, bleeding, A+ market that explicitly details why they can't do it and it all stems from greed and a lack of true passion. Only take risks when you can dump the bag on another guy, then blame everyone but yourself for why your project failed, THEN fail foreword and do it all again at another studio as you dance the lemon dance to early retirement in a fancy penthouse somewhere in LA, Atlanta, or NY
>>720635187>Africa refusing to pay debtsqrd?how can you just refuse to pay a debt?
>>720608905>the small fat folds on her armpitsIs that a mod, or are the devs taking notes from zzz?
>>720635676Watch Skirk's vid. She's floating in space outside Teyvat before falling through the broken barrier and down onto the planet.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWOgUQfkNWw
>>720635991Oh yeah, when I buy a game, I just get a black box and the actual thing I get is random. Everything is gacha.
Why is this subreddit so full of gachafags
>>720635030One of the better ones.My problem is the main story can be a slog, and I found Natlan to be dreadful. I'm also not a fan of character stories forcing in a cartoon villain of the day. I'd rather have some slice of life get to know what characters do in their free time stories without the drama slapped in.
>>720635676Newcutie...
OST wise nod Binland is absolute peak like god dammit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llQDVz9En2Q
>>720635676The entire sky is fake. This was part of an event in 1.1 and has been brought up a few times since and you're expected to know it happened. Did you also skip Natlan where you literally see the sky blown up to reveal what's actually in the sky?
>>720636351We're talking GDP here. Spending money on gacha is economically the same as spending it on any other entertainment.
>>720592575Definitive design is way better and sexier.
>>720635030>first part is her doing nothing while her dad just dies>second part is her murdering random innocents for a crumb of attention, getting betrayed, and murdering an entire tribe kids and all just to go bum around in the desert on the run from pretty much every sandnigger in SumeruIt's the same problem with most of Genshin's bad stories, they're just pointless.
>>720629172No? Conga line rotations exist, but interesting quickswap ones are stronger. Hell, even wuwa's conga lines are a lot more involved than genshin's rotations.
>>720636913>Did you also skip Natlan where you literally see the sky blown up to reveal what's actually in the sky?I saw that but they kinda glazed over it and I had no prior knowledge or foreshadowing so I assumed that was just some random abyss shit they added to look cool.
>WuWafag is once again desperately trying to make everyone believe WuWa's combat is deep and complex and isn't just flashy anime shit made specifically to appeal to the lowest common denominatorIt never fucking ends.
>>720637175Yeah, it's why they keep mentioning the firmament in the new books you can find and why Columbina and Traveler only feel the moon past the fake sky. Traveler this patch also outright tells Lauma that the sky is fake point blank.
i never played but listen to this quite a lothttps://youtu.be/Cclxu9T0tcQ
>>720637269ok
>>720637274There are problems I have with the game, but the OST is the one thing I can't fault.
>>720636879It's still a level below Yupeng's stuff, but it's perfectly fine to listen to and fits the place.>>720637175>I had no prior knowledge or foreshadowingEven without having played the events, the fakeness of the sky is the piece of information that gets Nahida to hand over her heart to Dottore.
>>720546545>>vast world mapEmpty>>good stories>>thousands of interesting characterslol>>gorillions game mechanicssloppy autistic grinding forthrid worlders
>>720637630>t. hasn't played the rhythm game
For those of you who finished the story:What do you think Varka's end goal is? He's been farting around Nod-Krai for literal years at this point and since he was able to track Ririr pretty effortlessly and wants to chat with him I can't imagine it's not something related to Khaenri'ah or at least the Abyss. Unless Varka is also on the Tsarista's side or something and just needs more information.
>>720637049>her murdering random innocents for a crumb of attention, getting betrayed, and murdering an entire tribe kids and all just to go bum around in the desert on the run from pretty much every sandnigger in SumeruWeirdest part is traveler just smiling and nodding through all this like it's normal or good. Genshin has some good parts, but the stories are not one of them.
>>720637963>Weirdest part is traveler just smiling and nodding through all this like it's normal or goodtraveler has no problem killing people and they aren't a goody two shoes
>>720637963>Weirdest part is traveler just smiling and nodding through all this like it's normal or goodsounds like your average xianxia protagonist
>>720546545>good storieslol
>>720631834So Nibelung is NOT the Third Descender? People hypothesized he was, since he was the king of the Seven Sovereigns, and it would make sense for him to control all 7 elements, or at least, the "light" that splits in 7. Making his heart into 7 Gnoses would make sense.Wedding Nibelung to daughter Fae would be dragon fucking fairy.>>720631834>>720632439>>720632794>>720632972Tsaritsa can't be the daughter Fae. It would make her 6000+ years ago, when Nibelung got killed. Artifact lore puts her at 500 years old.
>>720638535>traveler has no problem killing people and they aren't a goody two shoesI know traveler kills people, but recently it's felt less and less justified. Dude's kind of a cunt. But it's mostly the fact that for Jeht's story he just kinda sits there and lets her destroy her own life and then everyone else's. It's as if it wouldn't have mattered whether or not we were there.
>>720637957They're not going to do anything that could put Varka in a negative light. He has been foreshadowed since the game launched, every single person talks about how great of a guy he is, he's been an anticipated character for five years and he even managed to win over favor with the witches.Based on these factors it's almost guaranteed that whatever he's doing is either paving the way for some kind of redemption arc or it's going to be revealed that Varka struck a deal with him to stop being an asshole due to Varka having an indirect phone line to Gold who is an extremely relevant character in this case.
>>720637957lmao, nigga, he's a playable character, everything he does is going to be perfectly wholesome and justified. Even if there's some temporary backstabbing, everyone but the MC will be in on it as a ploy to find the REAL villain. Trying to predict the plot in a gacha is too dull, man.
>>720637957He said he was "coming for the moon" in the PV.Now what does that mean?Does it mean he's coming for Columbina? Does it mean he's going to talk to her and ask about the moon lore? The Fatui already did, but she doesn't know anything. But Varka doesn't know that.Is he coming for the Moon Marrow? Is he looking for the 2nd one, the Iridescent Moon? You need it to revive a moon goddess. Is he trying to revive both?And who else but Rerir, the Moon Hunter, to know more about the moons themselves? What is his deal? Maybe Varka will get some info out of him.Varka's been fucking around for 5 years, wandering around, and who knows how much of that time was spent in Nod-Krai drinking.
give me genshin but its a sci fi third person shootera bit gritty/grungy like starcraft brood war or ayyliensmaybe some base development aspects too
>>720637957That's absolutely not how Varka is characterised.>He's been farting around Nod-Krai for literal years at this pointNo, he hasn't. He's been on an expedition all over including Snezhnaya, Natlan and Nod-Krai. We've only just now caught up to him.The reason for their expedition is also fairly obvious. It was established very early in the lore. They are doing the same thing Diluc used to do before coming back, fighting Fatui and their schemes. It's easy to forget now but the early story is very clear on the fact nations actively defend against Fatui's shit. Like how they murdered a diplomatic entourage, all soldiers and Dottore's goons, only making sure to clean up and make it look like Diluc's doing to prevent giving Snezhnaya a casus belli.
>>720639405uuuuuhhh Endfield I guess?
It's cool to see NPCs with polish names, but it's dumb when you write them without polish letters.Should've looked for names without them instead old fashioned Siemomysł or Borzysław.
>Varka is a wolf chasing after the moonKWAB
>>720640090It's funny watching Japs go "wtf is with these fucking names"
>>720638758>So Nibelung is NOT the Third Descender?He's a native to Teyvat. In fact it's OG creator. It doesn't really make sense for him to get called a descender, really.Likewise, while it does make sense to carve up big daddy dragon for the elements... big daddy dragon was completely fucked up by Abyssal energy when he returned and none of the gods shows anything even hinting at possessing that. On that same note, Neuvillete gets his power when Furina kills her own godhood. He gives away the hydro heart to Arleccino as a completely useless trinket, which does not track with it being a piece of Nibelung's heart.>Artifact lore puts her at 500 years old.She only became the Cryo God 500 years ago. She wasn't necessarily born at that moment. We've seen it time and time again.Ei is not the OG archon, but she existed as long as her sister so she's as old as the Archon War.Nahida is likewise the OG archon, but she has the whole reincarnation thing where a new one spawns if the old one dies.Mavuika is not quite as old as the others but she's still much older than her office as she did the whole time jump to become the next pyro archon (as they are normal humans and die of old age) hundreds of years in the future.
>>720640390It was worse in Nata.Polish names don't come even remotely close.
>>720563561I can hear this image
>>720640736>It doesn't really make sense for him to get called a descenderI was discussing lore here during Fontaine, and I didn't think Nibelung was the Third Descender either. I thought the same as you, he was a native, so he can't be.But then people argued that since he left Teyvat to obtain "forbidden knowledge", when he re-entered Teyvat, he became a Descender because he had "power that could change the world".From then on, I've thought of him as one, and thought of him having reign over 7 elements/phlogiston(light) and having it split into Gnoses.Still nothing concrete, Third Descender could be something like Voyager, or be Nibelung. Both are still very possible.>She wasn't necessarily born at that momentIf Tsaritsa is indeed 6000+ years old and is the daughter of the first Cryo Archon/King Fae, I wonder how she looks. Also wonder how old Flins actually is.
>>720640736>It doesn't really make sense for him to get called a descender, reallythat title doesn't necessarily means alien
>>720641172Yeah, I mean it's currently just theory. But with miHoYo's commitment to be much more clear and in your face with the story, I'm leaning towards the new book being much more direct in its telling of the game's background story.And yeah, Flins' own age is likely going to give us further hints. He did say he used to have high hopes for humanity before losing it and then randomly getting washed up next to some of the Lightbringers.Combined with him speaking a language completely unheard of in modern Teyvat (Greek-using civs were all much older than 500 years), this guy isn't really being hinted as a teenager. Even if ignoring the lore, he's just a walking testament to female fanbase pandering. The dedicated fuccboy for all the damsels who get wet at the thought of Xiao or Wanderer, presumably.>I wonder how she looks.Bronya. If you can live a thousand years, you can do so looking young enough to have hanser still accept the VA role.
Do you realize nobody complains about Sumeru's names and terms, but love to cry about Natlan's? I wonder why is that... maybe it's because the people who complain about Natlan are quite familiar with Sumeru's terms. Ever stopped to think where those people could be from?
>>720642263what natlan terms do people complain about? first i heard
>>720642304There are a ton of pre-columbine america names for the ancient dragons and their tech. Hilariously long and hard to remember but they are just mumbo jumbo to add locale flavor, easy to ignore
>>720642263>nobody complains about Sumeru's names and termswere you in a coma in 2022-2023?
>>720642551Maybe he liked the trivia where he was asked the names of the academia departments
What do you think is the reason behind Rerir not having Khaenri'an eyes?
>>720642263>Do you realize nobody complains about Sumeru's names and termsAre you new or something? People were constantly complaining about the desert quests because it was unreasonable to keep up with the sheer amount of word salad unless you're a lore nerd who reads every single optional line of text in books/notes or watches a ton of lore videos and you're already familiar with the five different names associated with certain historical figures of Teyvat.
>>720642787Pretty simple anon; his body was obliterated and he has been slowly rebuilding a new one.
>>720643076The "new" one was just pieces of his old one. Hence the why he wanted to get back his original heart. Feels like he's not supposed to build a "new" body, but something that's either his original one, or something that resembles his original one. Rhinedottir's eye is a combination of her own Khaenri'an eyes + Naberius's.
Refusing to let the traveler drink is one of the most retarded things this game has and this game has a lot of retarded things. Kill the chinese and japanese for having retarded depiction prohibition laws.
>>720643254maybe it's a law to not have the protagonist of a game with teen rating consume alcohol
why the fuck are khaenriahns so powerful anyway?
>>720643254Aint the same with Japan?You have highschoolers doing shady part time jobs but everyone freaks out if alcohol or tobacco is mentioned
>>720639918I honestly forgot about that side of things. I remembered most countries aren't happy about the Fatui messing with them but this whole situation seemed sort of odd for the Mondo group to be doing deep into Snezhnaya.
>>720642787It looked ever so slightly different but I though it was still that vertical star?Though there's always the possibility he was simply one of those who introduced human genes into Khaenria. Tons and tons of mixed Khaenrians out there in the world and their parents would have had normal eyes to make that happen.
>>720643442I don't understand why grand blue gets away with it, but everyone else complies with the law.
>>720643432mix of alien + angel dna
>>720643254It was fucking hilarious. I really thought Tabibito was going to drink, but it he landed on juice/tea, and then switched out the Dark horse 999% alcohol for grape juice so he can listen to intel without forgetting it due to being drunk.
>>720643253>The "new" one was just pieces of his old one.Anon he wasn't literally collecting his body parts. His eyes weren't just laying around somewhere for a few years and he popped them back into his skull. Flins didn't find an actual human heart and throw it into his lantern.
>>720548302>what is valveYour entire fucking steam library exist only because gabe's gacha games, you stupid fucking nigger. The term gacha was used to name american gambling machines imported to Japan. Yes, gacha IS the western cancer. Not eastern.
>>720642063>He has to use AI to support his argument.
>>720643697I know that. It's like throwing his body into the woodchipper and grinding it up into a billion pieces. He's assembling them like lego blocks. Why would it turn into something completely new?
>>720643751it's how google shows you results nowshould i ignore it and look through wikis for a few minutes for the same result?
So Vedrfolnir, Rhinedottir, and "Tholindis" were the ones who scattered Rerir? Why do you think they did it?
>>720643750The gacha name comes from the Gachapon capsule machines
>>720643927he fell asleep first at the sleepover
>>720644028P R A N K E D
>>720643523>I don't understand why grand blue gets away with itBecause they're college students.
>>720643994>another illiterate retard
>>720643842>He's assembling them like lego blocks.He's not though. He's just taking back his essence. His body no longer exists. It has completely decayed. It's gone and it's been gone for hundreds of years. Even the fragments of his bones have likely turned to dust.What, do you think each Gnosis contains some blendered sludge of the Descender's corpse as well? That's not how it works.
Where the FUCK is that worthless nigger Dainsleif?>I am so... le MAD!>I am going to wander around for 500 years punching Hilichurls and shit!>*jobs to Twin*>*nowhere to be found when shit actually pops off*>*shows up once a year mumbles some nonsense, and leaves*
>>720644115Yet Iori, Kouhei, Aina and Chisa are all under the age for legal drinking. But yeah, being in college makes some sense.
>>720592827>>720593063she's great when they're not overdoing the "haha look at her internal monologue" schtick. it's funny once or twice but not if you do it like ten times in a row.
>>720644248>*jobs to Twin*doesn't count, i let her win
>>720644248Sorry, I don't speak zoomer. Try writing like a normal person.
>>720644160>each Gnosis contains some blendered sludge of the Descender's corpse as well?Yes, they're made of dragon bones, the 2nd hardest substance in the world.There is literally no reason why the crystal pieces he picks up shouldn't have him shape him to his own image rather than some roulette of "hey you got this emo goth mummy kid from the 90's".>hmm, looks like I got a bad roll on my character randomizer, I'm going to have to destroy my body again, pick up the pieces, and hope I look better the next time around
>>720644307>it's funny once or twice but not if you do it like ten times in a row.But they only did it like three times.
>>720644392Sorry your nigger feelings got niggerhurt.
>>720546545>good stories>thousands of interesting characters>gorillions of game mechanics
>>720644432ten was an exaggeration but they did it more than three, it was probably around like 5 or 6
>>720644307yeah it would be funnier if she was panicking in the background while others talk
>>720644554actually yeah, that'd be fucking awesome
>>720644498>do i fit in yet, fellow edgy 4channers?
>new mechanic pops up>mash through it>it was 1-3 pages >you just press a button and maybe press it a second time
>>720644665KEEEEEEK fucking shitskin got triggered.
>>720644430This is sounding more and more like you being upset over something completely pointless. If we were talking about Rhinedottir it would at least make sense because she has the capability to do so and is clearly autistic as fuck about her creations coming out exactly as she wants them to but we're talking about someone who has mentally deteriorated to an extreme degree. I can not fathom Rerir actually giving a fuck about having accurate Khaenri'ah eyes when he openly proclaimed he doesn't give a shit about anything and is part of the "just wants to watch the world burn" faction and he just wants a restored body to carry that out.
>>720644248the actual answer is he's artificially scarce in the plot so that his scenes have unwarranted weight and importance to players
>>720644682those "tutorials" are needed since i've seen retards not know you can make upward drafts with anemogranas even years laterbut then again those people probably skipped tutorials and are too stupid to find them in the list anyway
>only (You) can enter Columbina's lair no matter which character you're using in the overworldKino.
how does AMPLIFIED compare to default?
>>720644682>>720644918So many people failed the Venti alcohol making minigame it wasn't even funny. 90% of Genshin players are fucking braindead, hence why there aren't any hard puzzles circa Inazuma era anymore.
>>720644682Hand-holding tutorials are needed for games attempting mass appeal. A vast majority of people who play games now are fucking retards who don't know shit about video games and if they can't immediately figure something out within seconds they become frustrated and look up the answer online.
>>720643254but they switched the drink because it was strong as fuck though
>>720644498Much better. Don't use that zoomer lingo here.
I wonder if genshin or ZZZ would be fun to play for more than a total of 3 hours if they didn't have to make a brain dead combat system for glue eating mobile players
>>720645470combat isn't the issue for me, just wish it was more of it and less direct storytellingi can't read a book or watch a movie for more than 2 hours also
>>720644682The funniest thing is that they could literally just say "It's magnets" and it would have explained everything but the fact you can jump into the sky by standing on circles while empowered.
>>720645470The combat system is fine. The only thing mobile players are hindering is that you don't get huge crowds. A "stadium" full of people is at most 20. "Everybody in the village gathering around" is 20. A "riot" is 20. "A huge massacre" is 20.Natlan's war would be better if there were hundreds of dead bodies everywhere you go.
>>720644682>When near a Fluctuating Cabinet, hold T to enter the Overperforming Relative state. While in the Overperforming Relative state, you will be transported towards the Fluctuating Cabinet for a short while. After reaching the Fluctuating Cabinet, you will then enter the Underperforming Parens state. While in the Underperforming Parens, press T to be sent forward in the direction you are pointing. Once the Underperforming Parens ends, you will return to the normal state.>Press T to jump to a spot and press T to move to another spotThe tutorials honestly make things seem 10 times more complicated than they actually are and I've gotten to the point where I just ignore them unless it's for an enemy that needs a specific reaction or element to actually deal any damage to them.
>>720645601While that second thing is a you problem it has nothing to do with the shit quality of writing in the games. It's just boring to read>>720645704>The combat system is fineIt's barely better than PS2 action games and I say this genuinely.
>>720645093>some NPCs have unique dialogue if you talk to them as specific Nod-Krai characters>some NPCs have unique reactions to you completing quests as specific Nod-Krai characters>robot enemies in the region sometimes have a brief reaction to Ineffa because she's a fellow clanker>clicking the event screen will sequentially play through the notes of Aino's home themeThere are a lot of little details added in the region that make having the characters feel more realistic. Natlan has all the phlogiston stuff sure but playing the characters stopped feeling different for anything other than exploration. Using Nod-Krai characters in Nod-Krai actually feels like you're using the home town cast.