Zoomers are playing this and realizing it is actually overrated dogshit with some of the worst level design in FPS history
>>720562774You mean... a 24 year old game has... aged and isn't as good as when you were 15 years old in 2001 playing the game for the first time?
>>720562774Always has been.>>720563008My nigerian brother, I was 15 when the game came out, and it was UTTER SHIT day 1.Fucking slow, generic nonsense. It was THE laughing stock of /v/ up until even worse trash, such as TLOU, came out.
>>720562774I didn't have access to an Xbox as a kid. Never played any of the Halo games. From how it sounds, I dodged a bullet not getting attached to this series.
>>720562774>2025 and people are still seething about a console FPS from 2001lmao
halo is so good it ruined every other fps after itgoing down a linear corridor shooting samey soldiers that just stand there and hitscan you feels like a point and click after you're used to halos dynamic combat with all the different kinds of enemies, behaviors, weapons, vehicles. All the "halo killers" failed to understand those things, and just focused on the visuals, not a single game feels like halo, not even the non bungie halos.
>>720563129>slow, generic nonsenseYes, Halo was slow, but so what? It wasn't a PC game and didn't pretend to be one. Also, yes, it's a big generic, but gaming in 2001 was all about humans versus aliens; it was a product of its time.
>mogs and rapes Gaylo and makes Gaylo zoomers seethe and cope
>>720562774a single level in one of the OG trilogy has more attention to detail and care put into it than an entire AAA dev team puts into their entire AAA game in 2020+5 though
>>720562774I'm a 22 year old zoomer and I think Halo is pretty greatI grew up playing 3's multiplayer at a friend's house and it was my favorite game
>>720562774Quake will never be popular
>>720563465lollmaoroflmao
>>720562774are you trying to imply that the opinions of zoomies matter?
>>720562774>ZoomersOnly console normalfag babies liked Gaylo
>>720562774I played it 9 years after release and I enjoyed it. Like so many other games it had flaws but it worked for what it was going for. It was a step forward for stuff that was later improved across the industry, so no wonder people nowadays have a harder time appreciating it. It's like the difference between living out in the open, then structures designed to regulate temperature, and finally homes with heating/cooling for air/water. If you don't take a moment to realize the difference in context you will enjoy it even less. In any year there will be those that enjoy it and those that don't. Either way, anyone would welcome the premise being built on. We could've had that already but the 343-era decided to chase "abilities" in all the wrong ways. We're still pretending a super-soldier can't move blindingly quick while shooting, with maybe a little waver to their aim during that? It's weird. Modern soldiers without high-tech suits can already run-and-gun.
>>720563839>It was a step forward for stuff that was later improved across the industrywhat was later improved across the industry? there's no other game like the bungie halos
>>720563129Good thing I was sociable when I was 15 so I went out with the bros to play LAN Halo 3 for hours and not being a turbo autist nerd obsessed with gameplay or level design or graphics. I won at life. You didn't.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jXTBAGv9ZQThe moment you leave the first ship and enter the first ring and the theme plays while you're in the first outside ring level.Very few modern AAA games can make you feel like that.It's the moment when you realize you're not playing a mediocre game, but the start of a life changing adventure.
>>720562774https://youtu.be/vDVDwgCQ6Qohttps://youtu.be/JFJYmFTfWg0https://youtu.be/YMKf6j-AFIQhttps://youtu.be/uksSdIlJRj8
>>720563129You're almost 40 years old and making a dogshit thread like this? There's no way Halo sucks as much as your life must
>>720562774Yup, Halo was never good. Also, PC was better than Xbox, GameCube was better than Xbox, GBA was better than Xbox, and PS2 was better than Xbox. Xbox had exclusives that were better than Halo. Baby MP faggots just pushed this series to high noon for some reason, it wasn't that great, it wasn't that special, just overhyped and overrated, nothing more.
>>720563129You couldn't have Quake levels of speed in a game like Halo. You fucking troglodyte.That only works in arena games where you have to collect power ups like a ADHD kid.
>>720563765Can Xbots even be considered normalfags when everyone just buys Nintendo's consoles all the time or plays on PC?
I just played through all the halo games except 5 and it was really goodNot as good as Half Life but still pretty well madeInfinite felt so shit compared to the first game
>>720565163PS2 was better than Xbox if you didn't have an Xbox to show you how much better Xbox was. Nothing on PS2 came close to the incredible graphics and fluid gameplay Ninja Gaiden had.
>>720565210Not him, but Halo didn't seem to know what it wanted to be, a Quake, a Half-Life, a dumbed down baby experience that didn't learn from better shooters like Turok and Perfect Dark.
>>720562774nice edit fag, but post the actual boxart
>>720565471Are we pretending Half Life 2 is a good game?
>>720565375PS2 had more and better games, Xbox had a few and in between, Nintendo always had games of the decade, PC is basically what I said for Nintendo. Graphics never meant anything if the experience was gimped. You want good games and graphics, at that time, you got a PC. Ninja Gaiden was great but now that series is on everything.
>>720562774Zoomers played this as kids, my nephew is 27 and loved halo growing up.>>720563465But then this came out and he became a permanent cod fag.
>>720565547Better and more fun than Halo, yes. Halo really is an overrated series.
>>720565304From a campaign standpoint, Infinite was the only gameplay in the series I enjoyed. Felt fast, I hope they learn from this in the CE remake and Halo 7, take from more classic FPS games.
>>720565681>game you complete in 3 hours>scripted as shit>never touch it ever again in your life>better than HaloHurr hurr
>>720565472mental illness
>>720565608Again, PS2 games were good only if you didn't have a Xbox.You think I found God of War and SotC impressive at the time? PS2 was pure eye cancer.
>>720565882butthurt gaylo baby
>>720564027I'd say the idea of console shooters, multiplayer, much of the UI stuff, even having story and music in games, were all pushed (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtG6--4r_qk&t=1010). Halo 2 took an even bigger step forward and gets the most credit for many things, but a lot of the setup happened with Halo CE and some key individuals with high conviction about where console gaming could go (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtG6--4r_qk&t=1383).>The console world kind of pushed back, and said, 'Those aren't console-y things to do. You guys don't get it.' But, we really did get it, because we have already seen that these successful on the PC. You know, we had seen the multiplayer plays features.Halo was originally going to be a PC/MAC title with a more Battlefield-esque kind of multiplayer (I'm sure more close-quarters PvP would've made it in later), but just like some people saw how they could take existing ideas and push them forward in an untapped area, others would later mimic stuff from Halo for their own projects and of course get to build on ideas since they'd have the advantage of hindsight, or a world of gamers who were now embracing new ideas for consoles instead of just going "new thing bad".
>>720565791I can fuck around with the physics of the game to solve puzzles, complete fights in different ways, and change how I play the game every time. Half-Life 2 is an interactive video game vs Halo's move forward and win game. Metroid Prime shits on Halo for god sakes. No one ever talks about Halo for its gameplay. That's an indication of how shit it is.
>>720565681>>720565791I played Half-Life 2 even later than Halo 1 (must've been a crazy week with H2 and HL2 releasing less than a week apart). Gotta say I enjoyed them both. Perfect? Not with either of their pistols, for starters. Also, hype/hate/overrated are always rooted in the loudest, least level-headed fans. Every fanbase has them if something's popular enough. Those should never factor into one's opinion or enjoyment of a game.
>those faggots at the time telling me DMC3 was somehow better than Ninja Gaiden Black>play it for myself>looked like a PS1 game in comparison and played like ass
>>720565776Yeah you die fastI kept dying to random ass explosions or a ghost ramming meThe only way to take out big groups was to hang back and kill most of the enemies with a long range weaponThe worst were all those melee bosses you have to sprint away from then take a few shots at themAll brutes and elites were bullet sponges
>>720563008https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEZsGUqgtHQ
>>720565927Even when people did have both a PS2 and an Xbox, people vastly preferred the PS2. Not even trying to be a Snoy since I had an Xbox 360 during the 7th gen, but even I have the argue that the PS3 ended up with the better library of games in the end while Xbox died in the 2010s.
>>720562774Been playing it on emulator and it's actually pretty damn kino.
>>720565248360 was the most popular normalfag console after wii
>>720563465>ruins FPS games forever >gets no credit for it How did Cock 4 do it?
>>720566397There was nothing like it at the time.
>>720566231Every DMC, even the new ones, play like ass. I think it's one of the most overrated game franchises out there.I found Jak and Daxter to be better. But never told anyone because DMC is one of those games full of rabid fanboys.
>>720566227I agree, I liked Half-Life 1 more than Half-Life 2 which Valve just used a physics tech demo.
>>720565681You're joking right? Half-life 2 actually sucks from a gameplay perspective.
>>720565882that image has been posted for 2 decades/v/ legit hated halo universallythe problem is kids who played it as their first fps grew up and post here, and older gamers age out of /v/soon /v/ will be roblox and phone games
>>720566397but why?you can just play the game on pc
>>720566630Don't wanna play the anniversary edition or the gearbox port.
>PS2 was better because, uhhh, at the time I was programmrd to believe jrpgs are better than wrpgs.>n-no I did nit have Fable, Kotor, Jade Empire or Morrowind. But instead I had the grindan halway fantasy 10.
>>720562774>bought MCC last Steam sale>hadn't played anything Halo related since the OG Xbox>play from CE to Reach>really good games with some flaws and questionable design choices here and thereI will never understand the Halo hate. I do understand people hating the 343 games, but the Bungie series was all good overall.
>>720566375To this day I honestly can't remember why 7 year old me chose PS2 over Xbox. Was it the games I saw at Blockbuster? Was the PS2 section just closer to the entrance? Part of me wishes I had gone with Xbox and discovered Halo much sooner instead of playing it just before Reach launched. On the other hand, Halo ended up much easier to get a hold of past its generations, than a lot of titles I enjoyed on PS2.
>>720566719>morrowind on the og xboxand nothing of value was lost
>>720562774>actually overrated dogshit with some of the worst level design in FPS historyWRONGit's underrated. the sandbox is overrated.the level design is one of the best kinos?????? wtf brocustom maps are kino. halo CE has crazy cool maps. the multiplayer maps are awesome and look great.
>>720566868And how well did SotC ran on PS2?
>>720566507I prefer 2 but it's not lost on me why people prefer 1. 2's atmosphere is just more to my liking, but I learned much from examining Halo why it can be better to make less extreme jumps (or not make them at all) after setting the stage with the first/earlier installments of a series, at least if they're directly related.On a semi-related note, I experienced Delta Particles recently and that was a fun custom campaign more inspired by HL1 than HL2. Even has some mild Halo DNA for some of its visuals and one thing I won't spoil.
>>720566252This is another problem with Halo. The health system sucks, they need to remove the regeneration, going back to CE's, decrease the amount of damage Chief's shields and health can take, while decreasing the map sizes so Chief can move faster. This will lead to the game making Master Chief feel stronger while the game feeling faster. Also, they need to add puzzles and exploration in the games, and I mean mandatory ones. They also need to make real boss fights. Elites and Brutes with more health isn't a real boss fight. The submonitor fight in Infinite was the only one in the game that felt like a real boss fight.
>>720566765>I will never understand the Halo hateIt's not Quake. That seems to be all it is.
>>720566765>two weapon limit>slow movement>regenerating health>inaccurate short ranged weapons>having to be constantly behind cover
>>720566973>how well didDoes it run different now?
>>720562774So are these threads just falseflags from Halo fans to get a Halo thread going with anons defending it? I've noticed in a lot of these, OP will only reply once or twice and then disappear while everyone else begins talking about their favorite tracks or missions.
>>720566538Yet it's still better than Halo which should tell you something.
>>720567125You never played CE.
>>720562774>Zoomers are playing this and realizing it is actually overrated dogshit with some of the worst level design in FPS historyIt's rare for zoomers to come up to the same conclusion that boomers did.
>>720566615this board is a bunch of redditors acting like they don't go on the dark web and are federally complicit on a blue board about video gamesexactly as you said, they will be talking about roblox games for the next two decades until a solar flare hits and when the internet restarts it will be because someone put in their halo CE disc
Otogi>>>>>DMCIt's not even close. Never was.
>>720567174Both Half-Life games are fucking slogs to play through.
>>720567174Ew. No. I think I played it once and that once was enough for a life time.
>zoomers are-don't give a shit
>>720567047>played infinite>bring back the health systemyou can queue for reach right now u know.
>>720567125That other anon is right, you hate it because it's not a corridor Quake clone.
The only people who have a burning hatred for Halo are boomer shooter fanatics. Nobody else cares.
>>720567214That's cause OP made it up. It's just the same exact people complaining about Halo 20 years later because they have no life.
>>720567525It's not hatred, it's pity. Bungie used to make good games before gayo.
>SLAYER>*VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO0000000000MP*>*BEEP*
>>720567606>It's not hatred, it's pity.Complaining about Halo being popular for 20 years is not pity, it's absolutely pathetic obsessive hatred.
>>720563008I was 13 years old when Halo 1 came out, and even I thought it was overrated. It's a really good game, but dudes were sucking it off like its cum cured cancer.
>>72056277425 years ago this was common sense to everyone except 8 year olds (zoomers)
>>720567525Nah, the guys who just play Doom WADs literally do not care since they have effectively infinite games.
>>720567778>Complaining about Halo being popularHuh? Who is sister quoting?
>>720563008>>720562774No, it means that most 6th gen games are trash by modern standards with only some aspects being salvageable. Even some early 7th gen games like Star wars the force unleashed is trash. My stance has always been that games are barely tolerable until 2009.
>>720567875Halo is one of the games that has aged fine.
>>720563008Even back then it was nothing special. It was all just hype created MS marketing
>>720567830I saw a lot of 20 somethings who were really into Halo at the time, you are talking out of your ass saying "everyone" like that
>>720563008>a 24 year old gmae has agedHalf Life is still playtable. Doom is still playable. Quake is still playable. Duke Nukem/Shadow Warrior/Blood still playable.Halo was always bad.
So Quakefag is really fucking upset today, huh?
>>720568119>Halo was always bad.Wrong.
>>720568197Fax cheque: true
>>720568119>Halo was always bad.Say what you mean, it's not Quake. That's what all the criticisms of Halo I've seen boil down to.
>>720568023Name 10 better shooters in 2001.
>>720568264>t's not QuakeNor is it Unreal.
>>720565304Infinite MP is good tho
>>720563368>halo 2 and 3 decided to make the aliens muslim
>>720566615>if i spam it enough it becomes le cultureno one ever liked you faggot
>>720568010Halo 3 is tolerable. Odst had some good ideas. The gameplay is trash by modern standards. Destiny and halo infinite are an improvement on the formula.
>>720567606Oni was slop. Just play the PS2 gits: sac
>>720568359>Destiny and halo infinite are an improvement on the formula.>muh spreent>muh ADSNah.
>>720568319They were religious in CE, though, Keyes references it, and they are literally called The Covenant.
>>720568319yesreach was literally 9/11
>>720568415The floaty slow gameplay is fucking trash. Halos gameplay is like the worst aspects of both boomer shooters and modern zoomies fps.
>>720568319They were always a highly religious collection of alien races who found humans a heresy to their religion. Read the CE manual.
>>720568639>The floaty slow gameplay is fucking trash.Buzzwords. You never played it.
>>720568715I have a series x retard. Not to mention that I had an Xbox/360.
I fucking love going through the same concrete corridors
>>720568810The fact that you like Destiny just proves how fucking awful your taste and your judgement is>muh spreent>muh ADS>all guns are carbon copies and act exactly the same >shitty enemy AI >no fun vehicles>no gameplay sandbox at all Destiny is just Halo, with zoomshit stuff like sprint and ADS and with all the fun stripped out, with no gameplay sandbox. It's actually unironically fucking trash.
>>720568970That's why I love doom and quake.
>>720568970Covenant dance
>>720566630xbox version has better gwafix
console shooter is console shooter is console shooter
>>720566465because that was MW2
>>720569010I don't play destiny but I can still admit that it's gameplay is better then fucking halo gameplay. I grew up with the n64/PS1. It's 2025 dude it's ok to get old.
>>720566465every single retard who was in the US army and marines at the time bought it and played it. the game was basically sponsored by the military
>>720567251Run, Think Shoot, Live. Git gud, bitch
>>720569407destiny player hereno it isn't betterit's WAY worse
>>720569576No shit a document actually leaked that showed what pieces of media were influenced by the US military. Call of duty and halo were on it.
Most FPS campaigns were either single player only or clumsy in co-op. Halo's co-op alone made it something notable, with huge levels, vehicles, and a unique blend of mechanics you didn't see elsewhere. Nothing overrated about it.
>>720567298Too much for you, huh, kid?
>>720567875Your stance is completely fucking retarded.
>>720569407>I don't play destiny but I can still admit that it's gameplay is better then fucking halo gameplay. You're stupid as hell, sorry. Destiny gameplay is waiting for long cooldowns and otherwise autoaim snapping with ADS to cardboard cutout enemies.
>>720569736Too much? I beat that game in a couple of hours. I had more enjoyment from actually reading 1984.
>>720568119Halo's novelty wears off after one playthrough. Also, if an FPS is only from a coop standpoint and not a singleplayer standpoint, then it's not a very good game.
>>720569768
>>720569407>I don't play destiny but I can still admit that it's gameplay is better then fucking halo gameplay.Oh, you haven't even played either. Fucking retard.
>>720567606This is true, how do you go from this and Marathon, to Halo, oh right, Microsoft.
>>720569649More like >Run, Yawn, Sleep.
Halo is a book series.
>>720569885No it didn't, the game had a lot of replayability due to having some of the best AI to fight against at the time and changing your strategies.
>>720570053halo is a hit single by beyonce
>>720567332Reach didn't bring back CE's health, it used Halo 3's removed most, not all, of its regeneration, and called it a day. Spartans were still weak as shit and for some unknown reason, Bungie made them even slower. I want an outright return to CE's health system but I want Master Chief to be more tanky to the point of surviving a rocket to the face with no bleedthrough.
>>720570135>I want Master Chief to be more tanky to the point of surviving a rocket to the face with no bleedthrough.Just.... play on easy.
>>720562774Zoomers have bad opinions. Wow, newsflash to me. Anyway.
>>720563129>Fucking slow>generic nonsensenice bait faggot
Everyone arguing and meanwhile me here, who thinks Chronicles of Riddick was the better game.
>>720570116It played the same every time, and where were the boss fights, the puzzles, the exploration, the game had nothing and felt like it was trying too hard to get away from being a video game with its world.
>>720570292Checkpoints were awful
>>720568119Disagree. I do playthroughs of any game's story mode once and either it's a while until I do again or I never do again. If it's good I remember it fondly.Spent hours upon hours playing the multiplayer of Half Life and Halo, even up to a decade after they were released. I especially enjoying having to contend with vehicles, whether I'm in one or not. It's a challenge and experience many other shooters don't provide.It's not lost on me why some just want person-vs-person combat, but ultimately there's lots for various kinds of people to enjoy.
>>720568119I tried playing Half Life 2 for the first time like a decade ago and it was the most mind-numbing experience of my life. Maybe there is such a thing as opinions and maybe you have autism for not knowing that?
>>720570201Don't call me a supersoldier if I'm not really a supersoldier. It's embarrassing that ODST can tank more than a 7-foot-tall giant in a green space suit.
>>720570332>WHY ISN'T THE GAME QUAKEHave you ever considered, you know, playing Quake instead? It's been 20 years Anon, how are you still this fuckass mad about Halo?
>>720562774
>>720570352They were awful in Halo CE as well.
>>720570292Most FPS games were better than, not gonna lie. They were all also able to fully utilize stencil on Xbox, unlike Halo 2.
>>720570454I have, I played many video games, and many of them had boss fights, why didn't Halo want to be a video game?
>>720569153id visit that place
>>720570527Not really, because there isn't stealth involved, and enemies dont 2 shot you.
>>720570332There's a reason why Halo brought about a term like "sandbox" for design, if you think it played the same every time that's you playing it the same. And the lack of boss fights was actually one of the best parts of the game. Boss fights in FPS are almost universally garbage, including the ones they had later like in Halo 2. Doing away with that for a Warthog run at the end was far more interesting.
>>720570570Halo 2 had a few rooms with baked shadows. But they just couldn't put that much on Xbox.Riddick and Doom 3 were different type of fps.
>>720570663Crysis 1 already outdid Halo's "sandbox", Halo had nothing but Microsoft's money for advertisements. PC shooters were doing sandboxes before Halo was drinking its first bottle of milk.
>>720570792Crysis also came out 6 years later, what are you babbling about.
>>720570792Halo 1 had better graphics than Halo 2. Thst doesn't mean its better
>>720570663Problem with FPS bossfights is that there's not much you can do with them, there needs to be a lot of consideration put towards the player that it becomes detrimental.
>>720562774Halo haters have always be PCvirgins arenasturbators or seething snoykeksCE was objectively a masterpiece
>>720570917Halo 1 was better than Halo 2 in every way even
