>Nintendo would rather bring back the Virtual Boy than make a new Star Fox game
Every business decision is based on profit. This means Virtual boy is considered a better money maker to Nintendo than Sarfox.
>>720563246It's never been more over...
>>720563483Well... Thanks for that psychic damage. Asshole.
>>720563246They would rather bring back the Virtual Boy than make a Star Fox game without shitty gimmicks that would actually sell copies.
>>720563246Same with F zero. At least Fox and Falcon will always stay relevant because of Smash.
They rather port shit and make movies then make new games.
basedstarfucks always sucked ass outside of 64, bring back my angel shota instead
sup starfags how are you doing?We F-chads got F-Zero 99 recently and we just got F-Zero GX in the GC NSO, what about you?
>>720563952 At this point Smash is the only life support some of these franchises have left. It's like a retirement home for dead IPs. You just know Nintendo's boardroom talks are like "Well, they’re in Smash, that’s good enough, right?"
>>720563246Krystal really did ruin star fox fandom in hindsight
>>720564150>F-Zero fags are laughing at us again
>>720563858>a Star Fox game without shitty gimmicksI genuinely do not understand why the hell this eludes Miyamoto so consistently. Just make a Star Fox that's a normal fucking video game. And it's even worse now, because the mouse control is the one hardware gimmick that would actually fit this IP. Are these old fucks being stupid about this on purpose?
>>720564150Didn't f zero also had a fully complete virtual boy canceled at the last minute which might resurface on nso next year?
I think Miyamoto deep down always hated SF because it was invented by a couple of european dudes and not him.
>>720564183God bless Sakurai for smash or else countless ip's would have died in the fucking 90's.
>>720564302To be fair, there was also a VB Star Fox game that existed at some point. Fucking imagine if the first "new" Star Fox in years is a fucking Virtual Boy game.
>>720564356Ice Climber bros... a-any day now!
>>720564412If it were any other company I wouldn't even humor the idea, but Nintendo? It's all but guaranteed now.
>>720563246it's so fucking lame that they squat on these IP without doing anything. just make another 3D adventure thing, why the fuck do you gotta hide fox from the world
Reminder that the last Star Fox game was a Ubisoft gimmick product. Even in collabs with other publishers, we can't escape the forced gimmicks.
>>720563952F-ZERO just got a new game a couple years ago.
>>720564620I'm not really sure how they're able to do that. Like, not even an ashcan product. Maybe Smash counts as active use of the IP. >another 3D adventure thingI'll be real, I'd happily take an Adventures 2. Fuck knows it'd be nice for the classic Zelda formula to go somewhere.
>>720563246>Star Fox had a rocky evolution with Adventures but Assault was a cool move in a more arcade direction whilst developing on the lesser 64 modes>Nintendo proceeds to ignore developing the series further and instead repeatedly makes 64 again and again and again>Each time it's either a basic remaster or an attempt at using gimmick controls poorly and creating dogshitI understand people probably aren't as big a fan of Assaults ground segments, but Namco at least made moves to develop the series further and we'll never get anything else more for the series. Resign yourself to indie games carrying the torch but still never getting further because it's a niche within a niche within a niche.
It's time for everyone to admit that Star Fox was never really a "game series" as much as it was just an iconic pair of SNES and N64 games and then a bunch of failed experiments afterwards that the fanbase and probably even Nintendo themselves have disowned.
Starfox honestly has some gameplay expansion potential that was never really realized because they kept introducing gimmick instead of naturally progressing the original formula.
>>720564623I still want that Arwing figure at least. Best part about it.
>>720565195they could do anything they wanted with star fox, it fucking blows that they refuse to do anything at all
>>720564620>just make another 3D adventure thing,And piss people off all over again like what Adventures did back in 2002?
>>720563246good fuck you stupid furfags
>>720565305It's also like a space game yet they keep recicling 64.Like seriously you have this expansive setting, surely there could be more to do than just recicling the same game and story right? To me the problem is they weren't creative enough with it or if tvey were it was for the gimmicks.
>>720565195Adventure was a butchered game that was never supposed to be star fox. It was a end of life game for the N64 and Rare's tribute to OoT. Konami took a MASSIVE shit all over Miyamoto with Assault which is why they will NEVER get to make another good star fox game. I mean holy shit it was funny what they did, the whole first stage was co-developed with Miyamoto...and at the end they fucking blew up all his shit ideas and made there own game with bug enemies lol
>>720563246You got a cheap ass Arwing Model last gen anon, there was even 20% of a game attached!
>>720563246They brought back donkey kong. they will be bringing back star fox soon
>>720563701do not slop the dog
>>720565195>>720565802Your daily reminder that Assault was seen as a critical and commercial disappointment in its era and that's why Nintendo didn't follow up on it gameplay wise or why they didn't have Namco do it again.Even Imamura's recently admitted that he was hurt pretty badly by the game's mixed reception in its era, especially since it was the first game he was a producer for. https://x.com/ima_1966/status/1965691436424413489https://x.com/ima_1966/status/1965975059866202292
>>720565195I love Assault, fuck the haters. Like, if pure rail shooters truly are non-viable in the modern era(that's bullshit but for the sake of argument), then this was the logical direction to go.
>>720565624I mean they can make it good this time
>>720565331>>720565554Honestly, Starlink was a solid game. Nintendo could've poached the team that made it(the director especially is a bit Star Fox fan) and just said "Yeah, go nuts.".
>>720563246The half life krystal guy is importing the dogzeela model into the mod. Thats the most star fox content you're getting this year.
>>720566050That's fucking tragic but I'm glad he's getting good feedback, even if it's decades later. The gamecube really did have alot of these unique passion project games made by new people on older franchises and were unfortunately discarded by the wider audiences.
Reminder that Infinity Ward already made the ideal Star Fox gameplay, and everyone hated it for petty made up reasons. Seriously, Infinite Warfare rules, and I want a Star Fox that plays like this.
>>720566592Do people even care about CoD post 2010
>>720566735No idea. I don't really know much about CoD, I just played IW cause it was the space one.
>>720566506Well how many people even had a GC?It was seriously out matched by the PS2 being able to play DVDs and the xbox huge having a HDD to play pirate games offMost people with a GC stuck to the bundle of games it came with: zelda/mario/metroid because getting 3rd party titles was just not easy as nintendo dont give a single fuck about 3rd party.
>>720564412Proof? It was just a showcase of the technology rather than an actual game to my knowledge
>>720565195Assault genuinely caused the series to take a drastic decline and it's different take on the series did no favors for it going forward. It's gameplay is mediocre and story is cringe.
>>720565802I have to admit rare did a good job making it as good as it turned out. Similar development woes led to way worse products
Nintendo hates this. For some reason.
>>720563246Kid Icarus Uprising destroyed all StarFox game combined.
>>720566102>then this was the logical direction to go.Explain why we never got any other video games like star fox assault then? If it was such a hidden gem someone would have took inspiration and reused some of its elements for their game.
>>720567520>For some reason.Yeah mmmh I wonder why a corporation like Nintendo would do so.
>>720563246>Dylan Cuthbert would rather be making lame mobile gimmick games at his failing company in Kyoto than go back to Nintendo to work on a new Star Fox
>>720567520Looking at this i hate it too.
At this point they'd probably charge to unlock the full star map.
Is the fanbase of star fox just furries?There have been so many air flight or space flight games before and since, many of which didn't get sequels, but weirdly they only seem to care about the one with anthropomorphic animals.Or is it because it's Nintendo's? Like the Nintendo console playerbase will only play Nintendo games or something.
>>720563483>Every business decision is based on profit. This means Virtual boy is considered a better money maker to Nintendo than Sarfox.>Nintendo would you like to make a pokemon game?>...>Nintendo would you like to make a Metroid game you can sell infinite copies of?>...>Nintendo would you like to make a star fox game that boomers have died waiting for?>...>New animal crossing mobile gacha?>WOOWWOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEE MARIOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!fag company, I regret buying the switch 1 and a few games for it
>>720567758Those other games lack soul.The same way all the F-Zero-like racing games lack that "je ne say kwa" that F-Zero itself has.
>>720566875I looked up some gameplay. The space sections remind me more of battlefront 2(005) than star fox. Mainly because of how chaotic it is, fights in SF games feel more organized. Not sure how else to describe it.
>>720567758>Is the fanbase of star fox just furries?no a lot of arcade space gamers are waiting for a wide breadth star fox game. if nintendo could deliver breadth outside of botw ever again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbkqVTkuPvAquick, someone patent the gameplay elements of a rail shooter before Nintendo finds out about Wild Blue
>>720567758Eh it's a mix of both.There's certain truth in the fact that nintendo players keep themselves on Nintendo hardware mostly and starfox having some furry appeal is another reason too.Then again the original snes - 64 game is legitimately great so i have no doubt that helps.
>>720564183>IPs like Mach Rider couldn't even get this basic privilegeHow grim.
>>720563246Bringing back the Virtual Boy library is one of the most based things they’ve done in a long time. That library was more abandoned than the Saturn. I thought Nintendo would just act like it doesn’t exist, when I first saw Virtual Boy posts I was sure it was a shitpost
>>720563483i simply don't believe that.
>>720567758From my experiences there's two groups: the people that liked the games specifically for being fun rail-shooter video games (at least for the first couple of games) and then there's the furry fanfiction/shipping crowd that Krystal and the GCN games helped brought in, and funny enough it's the latter that dominates spaces like r/starfox as I suppose the older non-furry crowd have moved on to greener pastures after all of this time.Pic related is basically the quality content you'll find on the subreddit this mod is so mad that people ship fox x wolf together instead of krystal he went ahead and banned shipping art altogether on the subreddit i'm not kidding
>>720563246No one is going to pay full price for a 2 hour rail shooter nowadays, and with the variety of environments requiring HD assets, the budget of a Star Fox game has gotta be relatively high for such a niche genre. I think it would take a big shake up to make it work (like how Pikmin evolved from an arcade-like experience to essentially a full adventure game with 4), but that's probably just more time and money than Nintendo is willing to risk on Star Fox of all IP. And I also think part of it is there just doesn't seem to be any developers enthusiastic about making one, other than Miyamoto, and all his attempts have failed.
>>720568348This. Miyamoto gave it one last shot, everyone hated it, and it basically convinced him to stop being involved in video games at all. Since Zero he's focused way more on movies and theme parks and sometimes stepping in to make Pikmin
>>720567758I mean, what other railshooters even exist anymore? Panzer dragoon hasn't had a new entry since 2002. Sin and punishments last game was on the Wii.The only railshooters made in the past 15 years are Nintendo titles, or indie clones of said Nintendo titles. What else is there?
>>720567758>why are there non human characters in this fantasy world?I honestly pity hollow husks like yourself my dude. You can swap the character models for generic humans and the game still plays the exact same. The reason mascot characters exist is because they look better in low poly than trying to make a human-like shape. This modern era of 4K (DLSS) Troonism has rotted so many brains.
>>720567758Primarily yes from the ones who self identify as dedicated star fox fans.
>>720567594We won't get kid cards uprising re-released for the simple reason the voice actors are unionized and be a pain in the ass to go through the legal hurdles.
>>720567775>a Metroid game you can sell infinite copies ofWhat? Brother it's my favorite nintendo series and it's never going to "sell infinite copies". It's just not that popular. Shit, that open world slop coming out in December might break the series record. It is what it is.
>>720568348>>720568460>this fake ass argument>AGAINMake a rail shooter that's worth full price. Simple as. Stop making excuses for the corporation. They could absolutely deliver the product we all want, they just choose not to.
>>720568348>>720568460It's always worth pointing out that Takaya Imamura was probably the most important person to the series besides Miyamoto, being the guy who created the Star Fox cast and universe and he was even the one who got SF64 off the ground when the higher ups at Nintendo weren't even interested in it, and he already bailed from Nintendo back in 2021. That was always a grim prospect for any major Star Fox or F-Zero game being in development at that point, outside of minor downloadable NSO stuff like F-Zero 99 I guess.
They could have at least made a fox 99 or something
>>720568307Nintendo already has virtual boy games doing nothing at the moment. Putting it on the online service costs them pennies and selling the cheap plastic and cardboard alone will make them way more money than whatever amount they're investing in. Scalpers buying early alone will make the whole thing profitable for Nintendo.
>>720568657It's not fucking open world. The desert is just Hyrule Field, you whiny twat.
>>720568835Source, you faggot? Until I see a fucking source I'm not believing a word you niggers say here just to cope.
>>720568710Even f zero 99 seems to be dying down as it hasn't had a new update in a while.
>>720564150>recentlyI'd ask if you're excited for f-ZERO new releases but then I remembered the state of the current games industry and how the last thing even Nintendo released was a baby singing collectathon game.
Why don't they give starfox to another dev for a while at least. Hell just give ubisoft a chines as they already did starlink make them do a new starfox,if you aren't going to do it yourself why waste the ip.
>>720569162Starlink bombed and even at the time ubisoft is not an ideal company for such a thing. Also having a company develop star fox means one less game they'll be able to make for Nintendo which would not be ideal of those titles are guaranteed to be more successful.
You're good!...but I'm BETTER!
>>720568708A rail shooter alone will never be worth $70 in 2025. Sorry bro. You need something else.
>>720568903>sourceUse your eyeballs, moron.
>>720569162>Why don't they give starfox to another dev for a while at least. I have to imagine the mid-2000s game made them wary about that.https://ew.com/article/2007/05/08/man-who-made-mario-super/>n the past we’ve worked with some outside development houses on titles like F-Zero and Starfox — and let me just say that we were disappointed with the results. Consumers got very excited about the idea of those games, but the games themselves did not deliver. https://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/20/dont-get-your-hopes-up-for-f-zero>Obviously in the past we’ve tried to work with other companies, where we’ve let them develop games for us in franchises like Star Fox and F-Zero, but the more we think about it, the more we prefer to be able to create those games internally, on our own. We’ve obviously, as I mentioned, been working on what we can do to increase our internal staff in a way that will allow us to have more projects going at the same time, so we can create new games and work on additional old IP and still maintain the other primary franchises that people want to see."Even F-Zero 99 was made internally at NST.
>>720568835>>720568903I pull have compared it more to the ocean in wind waker but pretty much. The real test if its open world is if samus can get off her bike at any point like actual open world titles. It just seems like bike is forced on samus if she wants to travel between areas.
>>720569162>Why don't they give starfox to another dev for a while at leastAssault is why.
>>720567608>1993: 3m>1997: 4m>2002: 2m (PS2 era)>2011: 1m (handheld launch title)Why is this not surprising?
>>720569162Because starlink flopped. It being poorly advertised and a toys to life gimmick is why, but corporations don't think like that.They look at ventures in purely black and white terms (aka profit), context means nothing.Nintendo is perfectly fine sitting on IPs for decades just because they can, even if it upsets fans. I unironically think star fox is dead for another 10 years at this point, minimum.
>>720569415>"You need something else."Says who? Why is this assumption so ingrained?
>>720564620>it's so fucking lame that they squat on these IP without doing anything.They don't make any money so why even? It's obvious to them that the shit they're working with NOW is what the people actually want.
>>720563246Now Krystal can't enjoy her sandwich
>>720569416I did and saw a big empty desert with 'points of interest' in the distance. I will grant that Nintendo is absolute shit at marketing this series, but I'm not inclined to give them any benefit of the doubt. This is a thread for the Starfags to cry anyway, I had enough of this yesterday. If I'm wrong I'll gladly buy the fucking Switch 2 just to play it anyway,
>>720569513Why didn't assault do well?
>shiggy killed starfox with his shit game
>>720569635Do you want to pay $70 for something that is two hours long?
>>720569162The series has had like six or seven different developers already and they never deliver. It will still cost Nintendo money to have another company make one, and there are just safer bets than Star Fox. You also have to wonder if there are even any devs who want to work on it.
>>720563246Nintendo has decided that some franchises are relegated to gimmick hell. New Yoshi game? Give it a unique artstyle and make it for infants. New Starfox game? Give it an annoying gimmick that nobody likes.
>>720569642Yeah i guess that's right.It's so frustrating though as a player that they got to balance profits with games.I understand their perspective i just don't agree with it.
>>720569513It should be. With games becoming more main stream sales should be going up, not down.
>>720569419Platinum floundering Zero probably didn't help this at all. Granted Miyamoto likely did little to help with pushing for the gamepad shit, but whew wee.
>>720569680Kinda the same reason Zero also didn't do well either funny enough: it was a botched attempt at trying to recreate the magic of SF64 released in the tail end of Nintendo's least successful home consoles. Some people would argue that blowback towards SF Adventures also further deterred people from coming back for Assault.
>>720566050>a new future and new sequels could build on its strengths>Star Fox Zero (ended up being yet another Lylat Wars reboot)>Star Fox 2 officially released (not a new sequel though)Lol, Lmao even
>720569669>more disingenuous whining because le ebin memesFuck off.
>>720569696Fuckin'... make it longer then. Put more content in it. Why does the obvious elude you so much? You stupid motherfucker.
>>720563483>SarfoxFOX, DO NOT REDEEM, FOOOOOX!
>>720570651>Can't let you redeem that, Sar Fox!
>>720569792>I understand their perspective i just don't agree with it.Bro, these companies aren't Pro-Bono. They're for profit ONLY. Why spend all THEIR money to make these expensive products for free? What kind of logic is that?
>>720571028A customer's job is to care about what the customer wants. The board can whine as much as they want, I will never give a singular shit about whether or not line goes up. I want a new Star Fox game. Simple as.
>>720563246Outdated image but still.
>>720570261>a new future and new sequels could build on its strengthsThis does not describe assault at all.
>>720569419I’ll never understand Nintendos hatred for F-Zero GX.
>>720563246Because Zero was a huge fucking disaster. Nintendo did everything for this game Anime Short, a full-on puppet show, and even brought in Platinum to help out only for the game to do worse than fucking COMMAND, a DS game with a toothpick budget. What did you guys expect?
>>720571505Probably because they put a ton of money into it but it was too fucking hard and then tanked at retail.
>>720571505They seethe because Sega made the better F-Zero.
>>720571583Command wasn't a failure fyi
>>720571583>SlippyNot surprising. Should've had a Krystal, Fae, Miyu, or Kat figure. Would've flown off the shelves.
>>720567775Metroid is well known a shit seller.You know what also sells like shit? The entire xenoblade series. I wouldnt be surprised that 3 was a net loss. Nintendo makes them for the fans. You know how fucking rare that is?It also sells consoles, but xeno 3 sold just 1mil, on an install base of 160mil
>>720571439>Custom RoboI'm gonna scream.
where the fuck my muddy mole fans at
>>720571583>What did you guys expect?I expected a normal video game with sensible controls. All that marketing, and it was all for nothing because you just HAD to force the stupid hardware gimmick. Star Fox's continued failures are purely Nintendo's own damn fault.
With all the debacle about Nintendo not seeing the profit in it, whilst this argument doesn't work for F-Zero which hasn't seen a proper release in years, we've seen when an IP has a rocky entry sales wise at Nintendo, they shelve a series for awhile.Metroid basically went on ice for 5+ years when Other M sucked, by a third party studio. Same thing with Star Fox Command coming a year after Assault, failing hard then going on ice till the 3ds revitalized interest, except that was for the remaster craze. It wasn't until 5 years later they gave it to Platinum, but this was during the failure of the Wii U, so Zero was stuck with poor forced design and just 64 again.It's not only a case of seeing something as more profitable, but Nintendo struggling to know what to do with Star Fox and struggling to see success with 3rd parties, constantly shelving the series for 5+ years till they decide to bring it back. If it succeeds, the series is back and active. If it fails, the series goes back into isolation.These decisions mixed with the lack of interest in younger developers and a heavy focus on their aging creatives and mega legacy franchises leads to older niche franchises dying out.
>>720565802>zoom in on back>slow pan down>show exposed tramp stampWe need devs like rare again.
>>720571583I expected a good game, not gimmick trash. But I guess thats asking a lot from modern Nintendy.
>>720572046>Same thing with Star Fox Command coming a year after Assault, failing hard then going on ice till the 3ds revitalized interest,Nice try. Command was greenest before assault was released and it was made to be the final game in the series at that time. Command was also very cheap to make so it didn't have to sell a lot to break even. Command's low sales didn't reflect the series being forced into hiatus. If anything assault flopped hard since if it performed better or Nintendo saw potential it could have easily gotten a wii controls port or at least ee wouldn't have had a decade hiatus for home console releases.
>>720566309sorry, you have to hate it because it's Ubisoft
>>720572046>Metroid basically went on ice for 5+ years when Other M sucked, by a third party studio.Apparently, not. https://www.reddit.com/r/Metroid/comments/13deecn/nintendo_has_never_abandoned_or_neglected_metroid/
>>720568310>mod banned fanart because people kept posting one of the most popular ships and he didn't like itHoly fucking cringe
Why doesn't Nintendo hire the Ace Combat guys and tell them to do their thing but with more furries and less politics?
>>720572731Because that this is Nintendo, and that would make too much sense.
>>720572731ace combat guys probably wanna work on their own series rather than someone elses
>>720571583>bring on the dogshit mercenaries that almost always put no effort into 3rd party IPshow could this go wrong?
>>720572731Why would the ace combats guys ever want to work on star fox?
>>720572731Contact the ace combat guys convince them the idea and maybe you'll have a chance.
>>720568310>pngHm, cannot decide if I dislike someone complaining about fanfiction more (regardless of how true it is), or redditor hugboxing...
>>720572731>tfw assault horizon was received like shit but its gameplay would actually work for star fox
why you want more starfox? so we get more obnoxious threads filled with gay furry cropped porn garbage? get the fuck outta here
Krystalfags lost
>>720568310>Pic related is basically the quality content you'll find on the subreddit this mod is so mad that people ship fox x wolf together instead of krystal he went ahead and banned shipping art altogether on the subreddit i'm not kiddingbased. there is nothing to discuss about starfox without shippers derailing thread inserting their daddy issues in it
>>720573353No it wouldn't
>>720573162>>720573123The series changes directors regularly enough and there's not a lot of spinoffs these days. If I was in there position I think I'd find it interesting to cut my teeth on something else for a change>>720573265I'll get on it once you secure the Star Fox rights from Nintendo so I have the authority to negotiate
>>720571480That's because those hopes were for projects after Star Fox 64 3D had released.Also the multiplayer of it was pretty fun with the new items you could use. It's a shame they didn't develop it more and patch in online play. I think there's potential in it like how Kid Icarus Uprising did it.
>it's been over nine years since zero came outIf you want an idea of how badly Zero failed, think about this: In the nine years after SF64 came out, the series basically had its entire chronological storyline consisting of three story sequels (and a Japan only manga interlude set between 64 and Adventures) with Command kinda sorta acting as the end point for it. Meanwhile in the nine years since Zero came out, the closest it got to a follow up was...a crossover with a Ubisoft game no one played. And even that's like seven years old at this point.
>>720563246there are better pew pew gamesstar fox always had the worst ones
>>720563246its a lot easier to just sell cardboard to nintendo autists than actually put effort into developing a game.
starfox should offer more than rail-shooting. they are fun but they should add more into it to make the game worth its price. customizable arwings, have planets being revisited to either play the same mission or other missions and challenges. have side missions when traveling from planet to planet. make planets be under attack at certain moments to either go fight it or deploy other troops to either let them handle it or get to it before its finished
Would you prefer a modern starfox to be on rails or a more freeform arcade flight game? Structured missions or open world adventure?
They won't make another Star Fox game until one of two things happens:>someone comes up with some shitty gimmick >Miyamoto dies
>>720574317Starlink's sales were fucking horrible in Japan. It charted ONCE on Famitsu and then was never seen again. I can only imagine how Miyamato felt when he saw these numbers
>>720563246Is it truely over?
>>720571439Dont forget startropics. I really think a smaller scsle adventure game using that setting would be kino. Give it to a smaller team
>>720573921Assault was half baked at best. It fails to compare with all the other prominent multi-player shooters then and even before
>>720564150>baiting anons that love both seriesThere are better ways gh2xdto stir shit.
>nintendo can't even sell a game with hot furry girls (and boys) even though it has a built in customer baseThat's how dead star fox is
>>720563246The animal mascot era is not coming back until all the furfags choke to death on their hairballs.
those joycons have the perfect setup to create an arwing piloting simulator
>Mario went open world>Zelda went open world>Donkey Kong went open world>Kirby went open world>Splatoon went open world>now Metroid is going open worldReminder that any Star Fox "fans" advocating for, "Just do more on-rails levels" are going to be sorely disappointed when the series gets its eventual return, because Nintendo is all about dropping their characters into sandbox adventures across the board now. Star Fox is probably one of THE most appropriate IPs they have for doing intergalactic, massive exploration games, and frankly the best direction the series can go in is to return the team to their roots of being mercenaries. You can have your on-rails segments as you fly from planet to planet, but they're going to make you get out of the cockpit for Assault/Adventures style missions.
>>720575235They should take star fox 2s general open starmap concept and expand it into a .odern game. It fits their current openworld wheelhouse. I know they wont risk such ambition of starfox anymore but one can dream
>>720575374You never played Assault, let alone its multiplayer, and it's genuinely concerning that whatever mental institution you've escaped from has taken this long to tard wrangle you back to your padded cell. We know you don't like Assault. Just shut the fuck up already.
>>720575782Broad assumptions you make. I played it with friends in the mid 2000s and had everything unlocked via a friend's memory card including the jetpack and wolfen. Campaign sucked and the mutliplayer made me wish I was playing a better shooter on an Xbox. It's just not that good of a game. You mainly like it out of nostalgia and be a furry.
>>720575235>>720575752Have any more fay stuff?
>>720563246Most of /v/ are fake SF fans anyway. All you do is complain a new game isnt like SF64. I have enjoyed all of them. Even DS and Adventures. You dont deserve more games. And no, Krystal didnt kill the franchise. The '''fans''' did.
>just make a cheap small gameNintendo would love to do that, but the their audience dontbeing a AAA company means you must always make AAA games, its the downside to having a specific demographic attached to your brand
>>720563483Yes and Nintendo historically has only ever made decisions that have turned a profit. There are zero examples of Nintendo making a bad decision and losing money because of it.
>>720576530how hard is it to make a competent rail shooter with optional objectives, branching paths, semi-procedural teammate chatter, and the occasional "All Range Mode" mission for boss battles and whatnot?Ace combat is 3/4ths of the way there it just doesn't have rail shooter stageshard enough that assault was the closest they came, and it had two and a half rail shooter stages across ten levels. Wow.
star fox was never good
>>720565195Assault would be better if it had more levels
There are at least two different star fox clones with good gameplay and furry characters on steam right now. Why aren't you playing them?
>>720576369Just this from the last thread
>>720576819Dude. Nintendo games barely scratch AAA budgets. Only one that recently has was TotK. Majority of Nintendo's stuff is AA while your example is probably more an A than anything. Drag X Drive probably made it's money back in less than 10,000 copies. If Nintendo did the same with SF and went in on making it a budget series, SF would be perfectly fine.
>>720577219>Nintendo games barely scratch AAA budgetshow do you know that
The only good Star Fox game with any traction whatsoever was 64 stop pretending it was ever a successful, popular series full of titles people give a shit about. 64 was always literally the only one.
>>720577196Here's an edit of >>720575752 but fay has a giant fat asshttps://desu-usergeneratedcontent.xyz/trash/image/1674/50/1674504443277.gif
>>720575131Psuedo open world planets where you can hop out of the ship, rail shooter stages to travel between them.
>>720577321Because Nintendo themselves have said TotK was the first game of theirs to go over the $100 million mark. Pretty easy to infer from that most of their budgets are in the AA range for their big titles while smaller titles, think like Pushmo or Dillion's Rolling Western, are in the hundred thousand to single digit million.
>>720577000No it wouldn't. The game for as short as it was still had several levels that only exist to pad out the length
>>720577869where did they say this, and thats still AAA though
we should get a dinosaur planet sequel if Zelda isnt going to go back to OoT/WW/TP style gameplay
>>720563246>No starfox>Literally every attempt failed to even keep attention because foxfags "it's not the same/different"At least FZerofags try their damnest to keep it alive with every chance they get
>>720578047i would be cool to see dinosaur planet get the starfox 2 treatment
>>720577914not counting the final boss it had only two rail shooter stages, i just think it needed more
>>720564150How I wish Assault be on NSO
>>720577754Too big. Should have been a pantless version with visible cookie
let's be real, space furries was never that good
>>720578485Good luck trying to get more of those made. They were bland as is I am glad we didn't get more.
>>720571583Sometimes I want the wheel to stay the same, not to be reinvented every fucking time Miyamoto
>>720575131why not both? why limit to one gameplay?
>>720576826ESL or retarded?
>>720578935Development time and resources forces tradeoffs in this business.
>>720577806Isn't that just adventures?
It's honestly strange cus Fire Emblem only sells 1.5 million to 3 million at best and they KEEP pumping out FE games. And spinoffs. And even Xenoblade only does those same similar numbers. And they keep green lighting those too.You're telling me a new Starfox wouldn't clear 1-3 million? It's very strange.
>>720563246>>720563483>>720563952THAT'S NOT HOW GAME DEVELOPMENT WORKSTHE RESOURCES USED TO MAKE VIRTUAL BOY COMPATIBLE ON NSO AND MAKING PERIPHERALS FOR IT DOESNT TAKE RESOURCES AWAY FROM STAR FOX BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE HANDLED BY DIFFERENT FUCKING PEOPLE
>>720580806Fire Emblem and Xenoblade are made by dedicated devs outside of EPD from teams with generations of experience working on those sorts of gamesIt is not comparable whatsoever to Star Fox which DOESN'T have a dedicated team to make its games because EPD is stretched thin as is
>>720571439>EarthboundAny real fan of Mother accepts Itoi doesn't want to make moreYou fucking secondary piece of shitNot everything needs to go on foreverYou fucking morons don't know how development worksThere are no infinite resources and just handling these IPs to any random developer isn't necessarily going to result in a good gameIPs aren't something meant to be renewed upon with mandatory games just becauseSometimes developers are just no longer interested and would rather spend the remaining years they have on Earth to do things they WANT to do
>>720581257Bootlicker
>>720575348Not gonna happen from Nintendo because as far as Nintendo (outside of their museum) is concerned Startropics doesn't existYou want a new Startropics?Cross your fingers a dev worth a damn makes a pitch to Nintendo and they acceptNintendo themselves are NEVER gonna make Startropics a priority I'm not even sure if the folks who made the game are even still at Nintendo
>>720580806>It's honestly strange cus Fire Emblem only sells 1.5 millionKid Icarus Uprising sold the same amount of copies and neither Nintendo nor Sakurai want to make another one. The only reason FE continues to get games is because it's developed outside of Nintendo itself.
>>720581395https://youtu.be/zIt5fzCFUckHere's your new game broWhat's the matter?You said just get another team to do it
>>720581395>Forcing game devs to makes I don't want bad>Forcing game devs to make games I want goodHey jackass, if EPD can't make a new Star Fox who the Hell are you gonna call?Do you really think a Mother game without Itoi would be good?
>>720581074>It is not comparable whatsoever to Star Fox which DOESN'T have a dedicated team to make its gamesNeither did DK and they still got the 3d mario team to go all-out with making him a game. Why can’r Star Fox get the same?
>>720579860Adventures is a zelda clone. I don't want BOTW star fox edition, even if BOTW has some of those elements I mentioned.
>>720581738Because Donkey Kong draws dimes and was a project pushed forward by Koizumi even if he didn't get credited and the guy has a sentimental attachment to DK (EPD Tokyo's first game was Jungle Beat)Nintendo doesn't throw darts or draw names from a hat to decide which IP to bring back and there's even speculation EPD got reorganized since they outright said they make it so there's a pipeline for both 2D and 3D Mario and Donkey Kong games
>>720580806Only explanation i have is the developers of those ip's are incredibly passionate so nintendo can't really tell them no regardless of the sales.Maybe if star fox had someone like thst it would get more games.
>>720581738Bananza and Odyssey are still both 3D platformers
>>720582029>regardless of the sales.Awakening literally saved the series and the devs were told by Nintendo it could be the last Fire Emblem
>>720564356Smash Bros doesn't save franchisesIt's a misconceptionMother 3 was already happening before Smash 64 came into developmentAwakening saved Fire Emblem not Brawl (Melee did convince NoA to release the series in America though)Pit wasn't added in Brawl to revive Kid Icarus, Sakurai came up with Uprising's gameplay first and then Iwata approached him to use any Nintendo IP with it in mind
>>720582116Yeah but tbf after awakening sales are still like relatively low.It's really just that tvere people pushing for those games to be made, a whole team in fact, while ip like starfox's have like 2 people that cares in the company.
>>720563246Here’s what they need to make.A Starfox - Metroid Crossover.
>don't care about original>start caring because smash>enjoy 64>talk shit about adventures>talk shit about assault>talk shit about command>why did they abandon star fox?>talk shit about zero>ignore 2 finally releasing>why did they abandon star fox?
>>720582525What's the gameplay like
>>720580806>>720582029intelligent systems does a lot for nintendo outside of FE, including manufacturing physical dev kits for nintendo. so ive always thought it might have been nintendo funding the devs passion project in return.
>>720582672Again they still have limitsAwakening being possibly the last Fire Emblem after allIt's a series that sells well for its budget so combine that with dev interest and it's no surprise it keeps going
>>720571815The devs are like barely in the double digits range regarding employees
>>720582661Idk, just thought of it. Maybe Sf and Samus go around to different planets and there’s a simultaneous co-op thing where Sf is in the Arwing and Samus on the ground.
>>720583316Yeah that's the problem with crossover games like thisThey sound cool on paper but gameplay wise it'd risk being a messIt's like combining Yugioh and MTG
>>720563483kekget fucked furfags
with that ex-nintendo dev talking about the company prefering people showing initiative and proving your concept, i can imagine the only real reason starfox isnt getting anything is because nobody really wants to work on it. its like valve with TF2.
>>720583487I mean I think it could work, that’s just the first thing that I thought of. Game development takes more time than that lol. MTG & YGO is 2 totally different games. Sf & Metroid is more similar than that.
>>720582661kid icarus, but its 1st person instead of 3rd
>>720571439Do IP rights not expire after X years of being untouched?
>>720575685I think StarFox could do Open World well if it was set up something like warframe's planetary content. You have your home base, you get your missions, you go out and do them. Then on top of that you get your actual on rails content.Course this would be too big brain for them to consider
>>720584038That's only for licensing>>720571439Most of those haven't been made (or were never even touched) by Nintendo themselves for ages
>>720581395You're right AnonLet's just throw money at the problem, make a new studio from the ground up to dedicate to one series in specific without its original creators involved since they've either moved on or are just no longer interested in the seriesWhat can possibly go wrong?
>>720567520Starfox is only relavent cause people like the furries. The gameplay is too niche to market to people, they would be better off completely switching genre's again like Adventure
>>720580980>THAT'S NOT HOW GAME DEVELOPMENT WORKS>THE RESOURCES USED TO MAKE VIRTUAL BOY COMPATIBLE ON NSO AND MAKING PERIPHERALS FOR IT DOESNT TAKE RESOURCES AWAY FROM STAR FOX BECAUSE THESE THINGS ARE HANDLED BY DIFFERENT FUCKING PEOPLEWho even handles star fox these days?
>>720584305Nobody but if anyone did it certainly wouldn't be the team behind NSO or manufacturing physical Nintendo products
Assault started the ruining of star fox. Zero was just the final straw for Nintendo.
>>720584038Yes but its like 100 years or some shit due to Disney.
>>720584414Would assault just being another 64 clone had helped?
>>720563246Maybe they should try Dinosaur Planet. Something a bit different.
>>720584462Absolutely but thats all hindsight. Also not having Namco work on it too would have helped too. Sega was the better pick since at the time they recently made panzer dragon orta. Speaking of which it got 2 games remade since the last star fox release. Panzer Dragoon is more alive than star fox. Bubsy is more alive than star fox. F-Zero is more alive than star fox. The fucking virtual boy is more alive than star fox. Just give up and move onto different things.
Star Fox only ever worked as a high production rail shooter with branching paths and intense arcade gameplay.Does anyone really see nintendo making something like that today?
>>720585074Yes but star fox should have taken the rpg hybrid route like panzer dragoon sagas
>>720581074Small indie company Nintendo couldn't possibly afford to fund a single studio to develop starfox
At the end of the day I think it's for the best that Star Fox is dead, it was always a troubled series that neither its fans or even its own creators really knew what it was even about. Like every Direct that passes by I actually breath a sigh of relief when there's inevitably no Star Fox, because I fear the impending shitshow that would happen if a new game actually happened.
star fox gatcha for mobile and switch.mission structure with different bounties star fox gets on different planets. there is an energy system.pilots and arwings are the gatcha element, pair the two for different stats and special abilities.this is the only way to revive star fox.
>>720585306>Small indie company Nintendo couldn't possibly afford to fund a single studio to develop starfoxOh sure because that totally can't go wrong
>>720585727Things died for a while. Arwinglanding shut down years ago. Whats left?
>>720585306Seriously. They're the ones who bragged about how the Switch made them more money than the entirety of the company's 100+ existence, and that they could operate on loss for 40 years. They could absolutely set aside some resources to make a Star Fox game, they just don't want to. Nobody at Nintendo gives a single shit about Star Fox.
>>720586071>>720585306You know how the people who make the Fast games talk about how people want them to make an F-Zero game but they make it clear they'd rather work on their own projects?That's your reason
>>720584950 You ain't wrong, anon. It's almost poetic how Star Fox, the franchise that once sold itself on being the cutting-edge tech showcase for Nintendo hardware, is now deader than formats nobody asked to see again. Panzer Dragoon getting attention while Fox and the boys rot in the Lylat equivalent of a retirement home hurts. It's like Nintendo’s strategy was, "Hey, let’s remake 64 four more times and call it innovation!" At this point, honestly, I'd take a Star Fox-themed Sega crossover just to see the Arwing fly again-even if it's just DLC in some random Valkyria Chronicles spinoff.
>>720565923Instructions unclear, dog slopped a fuckload.
>>720586326>"Hey, let’s remake 64 four more times and call it innovation!" People complain about that but to be fair, it's not like their three attempts at not "remaking 64 over and over" in the mid 2000s were that well regarded, either.
>why don't they just get an outside team who wants to make star fox?>as if that wasn't exactly what Assault and Zero were>as if this doesn't have a pattern of setting new series lows for sales numbers
>>720586326>>720586556>"Hey, let’s remake 64 four more times and call it innovation!"Which games are this? They literally remade it on the 3ds so thats one. What are the three other 64 remakes?
>ctrl + f Event Horizon>0 results
official nintendo LoK release when?
>>720586698Every Star Fox game is just a monkey's paw when you think about it.>Make Star Fox 64 again! Star Fox Zero>Add on-foot combat and let us get out of the arwing!Star Fox Adventures, Star Fox Assault>Do more story! Do more with Krystal! Star Fox Command
>>720564623It was the best Starfox game in decades though.
They could at least port the older games or put them on nso so a new audience can find them. Nintendo is so stingy with that shit
>>720587269To be fair, Star Fox SNES and Star Fox 64 were amongst the very first games added to their respective NSO platforms, and Star Fox 2 was amongst the first additions to the SNES platform post-launch. But it is pretty funny and sad that Adventures and Assault are nowhere to be found despite GCN NSO being a thing, and who knows when or even if they'll be added (we're FOUR years into the N64 app and we still don't have DK64 and Smash Bros. for crying out loud).
>Nintendo games platinum to make a Star Fox game>Instead of making a character action/spaceship hybrid game, they had to remake Star Fox 64 but with gimped controls
>>720566592how does call of duty play anything like star fox? i dont get it
>>720563246They should make a starfox rail-shooter like 64 but with a bigger plot and 40 hour campaign. That would be PERFECT.
Why would your want another Star Fox? It's almost been 10 years since the last remake, which means modern audiences have forgotten the established narrative, which means Nintendo would have to remake Star Fox 1 for the umpteenth time.
>>720586376Any with fat fay?
>>720589292It's weird as hell that Star Fox has had to reboot like three fucking times, and that's something we don't talk about enough.
>>720590621People talk and whine about it all the time, and tbf they've only rebooted twice and the second one made sense because the series' storyline up to that point had ran its course and its own creator wanted to include the narrative on Command and its multiple endings as shown by >>720574317, not to mention by the time Zero began development it had been like 10 years since those games out.
>>720591771The reboot games are better than the sequel games.
>>720586786Event horizons and a fox in space being allowed to not only exist, but take money on their patreons is proof that Nintendo gives no shits about this franchise.Could you imagine somebody trying to do that with mario?
>>720587180Some the fuck how, yes. It's honestly kind of frustrating.
>>720593185Dude, they kill off Metroid fangames, even. Only the ones made in secret ever make it. I bet you could make and release a straight up Star Fox game for sale, and not only would they not sue you, they wouldn't even notice. The IP is functionally public domain at this point.
>>720582356>after awakening sales are still like relatively lowfates sold more than awakeningthree houses sold more than fatesengage only sold about 60% of awakeningthe only real dud was echoes which couldn't break 1m
>>720563483True but also nintendo really doesn't know what to do with star fox outside of yet another 64 remaster.A whole new set of antagonists, protags, side characters and game objectives are needed since they can't just reuse andross and the lylat war without it just being very derivative.
>>720575685Neither DK nor Mario are open world you retarded faggot
>>720571583who the fuck at nintendo decided it would be a good idea to make a toy based on the least toyetic character?
I think Star Fox Assault will be on NSO sooner than later. And you can play multiplayer online with game chat.
You know why Star Fox and F-Zero are dead? Because Nintendo can't just make sequels that are similar to the past game. Every single Star Fox game they had to be all HERES HOW WE CHANGED/FUCKED UP THE CONTROLS THIS TIME! And with F-Zero they reached as far as they can go with that and can't figure out how to do anything different.The exception is New Super Mario Bros where they could do 20 of those and it's the same game every time. Weird, innit?
>>720594042They make an exception for mario since its their flagship IP and have to push out at least 1 mario title per console. So even if they have no new ideas they just have to make one.
>>720563246>>720563483I don't get them. Star Fox seems to be an incredibly easy series to milk and obtain mad profits>furries are on the rise>people have been dying to get a new game in the series>a bunch of different possibilities for varied gameplay (ship missions, tank missions, on-foot missions, submarine missions, etc.)>not much is known about their universe, so lots and lots of creative possibilities for new storiesJust slap some good character design on it, and it's guaranteed to be a success.Hell, they could even officialize the crossover with F-Zero, kill two birds with one stone
>>720593568I swear to god, I am going to start hunting down all you fucking drones who keep going on about sales. How the fuck is everyone here so corpo brained?
>>720594556If miyamoto can't ruin it with motion controls we aren't making it
>>720594674>why isn't a starfox game being made despite other series with low sales getting games>actually this series is doing fine in terms of sales>REEEEEEDon't bring up sales if you don't want other people to talk about sales
>>720572731That's what StarFox 2 was meant to be. Played like an arcade flightsim.
>>720594556In regards to story, it's especially baffling. The Star Fox team are mercenaries. Some asshole is causing trouble, our heroes get paid to deal with it. Done. >>a bunch of different possibilities for varied gameplay (ship missions, tank missions, on-foot missions, submarine missions, etc.)Right? The sheer variety of stuff you're doing is there, especially if there's a selectable mission based structure. You got your main missions, and your side jobs. Earn money for upgrades and bonuses. This isn't rocket science.
>>720594928>MUH SAAAAAAAAAAAAAALESShut the fuck up and kill yourself, shill. >Don't bring up sales if you don't want other people to talk about salesYou are the only one who brought up sales. Fuck off.
>>720582661online deathmatch shooter with various hunters from the metroid side and then a handful of picks from the star fox side>metroid characters have a secondary form with some unique gimmick>star fox characters can crawl and have a sidearm/secondary itembonus points if they throw in an f-zero racer or two, octoman or pico would fit really well imo
>>720595187>>720580806
>>720563246Remember they never made Starfox on the Wii, the perfect console for that franchise.
>>720595512no interesting ideas, prease understand
>>720595512That still pisses me off. Literally HOW did they manage to miss that opportunity? For all Star Fox is a gimmick pusher, they don't even use it to push good gimmicks like the pointer and mouse controls. Nintendo HATES this IP, I swear.
>>720595761>I wasn't particularly interested in just making another Star Fox gameWELL FUCK YOU TOO, YOU OLD BITCH.
>>720580806>You're telling me a new Starfox wouldn't clear 1-3 million? It's very strange.We have the sales figures. It hasn't sold past a million since adventures and 64 3d. Only the first star fox and 64 sold over 3 million.
64 is what really killed this series. And not because it was bad, but rather the opposite. It was too good. And as a result, the franchise peaked too early. And because of that, there will never be another Stsr Fox game that wont be compared endlessly to 64.
>>720597026Metroid also peaked super early, but Nintendo still makes stuff for it.
SNES had an adult tone to it, your wingmates could die, the atmosphere felt tense, like you were a assigned a suicide mission to venom. 64 was made more younger audience friendly and most people don't see that. Wish we went back to those roots.
>>720572713yiff in hell, furfag
>>720571439>custom roboYou niggers. we could have had that instead of daemon shit machina
>>720597786Nintendy is a kiddie franchise now, even something as "dark" as MMs NPCs begging not to die as the moon crushes them is never happening again.
>>720594801It can even have some whacky motion controller interaction if they really want to, like... shaking the controller to do a barrel roll or something, I dunno.>>720595083Yes exactly!Damn it man. Unfortunately it is as they say, Nintendo is a bad company with good games.The only consistent thing about them is the insistence on trying to make alternative controllers and whacky peripherals work.
>>720597786see, this always felt to me like one of the lynchpins for the whole concept - the whole animation style and everything is often compared to gerry amderson's stuff like thunderbirds or captain scarlet but i reckon it goes further - despite the presentation of literal puppets on wires in those shows, there's a serious aura of the characters being in danger and the stakes being high that lends an aura of authenticity to the whole thing, and i'd like to think that was an intentional similarity we kinda lost that after the fact and i think it's a shame, because i do genuinely think there's a place for a serious but slightly kitschy series with that kind of tone despite the characters being puppet space animals, it's really something that'd stand out imo
>>720595312 God-tier post formatting, anon. Truly a masterclass in contributes-nothing, says-everything energy. Probably took you longer to scroll back and reference than to actually say whatever's rattling around in that grey soup of yours. You’re not slick-either say something or go back to catalog-guarding.
>wanting star fox when splatoon is right thereyou are either gay, a furry or a gay furry
>>720599506Splatoon has nothing to do with Star Fox. Different genre, different visuals, different theme, different style
I would make FMVs of real life puppets used for the Star Fox crew cutscenes. Though the Andross virus would be 3DCG.
>>720595512>>720595761>>720595779>>720596006Well alright, then why didn't/don't they just find someone who is willing to head the development of the game? I find it difficult that no one in that giant ass company has no interest or ideas for a science fiction, action-centered game (that isn't Metroid), and if there isn't, it shouldn't be hard to find someone who is.I thought game studios brainstormed ideas and shit. Just gather people up and throw some ideas around, see if something good pops up.
>>720600042not any of those anons but i'd guess nintendo being a japanese company is very particular about who gets to head up projects or whatever, so if you're not one of like 30 people at the higher band of the different dev teams or whatever then it's just a non-starter because of a lack of senioritythat's pure speculation on my part though
>>720600042Why don't you start a video game company and make your own Star Fox?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1921490/Wild_Blue/Will it bomb?
>>720600543The only one of these that will probably do well is ex zodiac. Literally nobody talks about any of the others.
>>720600543I hope not
>>720600042>>720600265Because the people with actual growing influence would rather do original projects like Splatoon or Arms Resources are finiteThey're not gonna let some low level scrub lead development on a Star Fox game just because he wants i
>>720597026What retard made up this take?
>>720593568Echoes hit a million but it took until the end of 2022 to do so.
>>720600272Yeah, well, I'm gonna build my own Star Fox, with blackjack and hookers!
Reminder that Nintendo considers the very idea of a new Star Fox to be such an absurd prospect, that they used a fake title as bait to root out leakers.
>>720570631no ones going to play a 40 hour long rail shooter.you retards literally don't know what you want.
>>720605124You are such a disingenuous twat with ZERO imagination.
>>720605124How about a 4-5 hour campaign with 64 side missions/challenges? Followed up with a battlefield scenario creator and online?
Krystal is for human cock. Prove me wrong.
>>720606038all anthro women are
>>720606038She's not interested in tiny human dicksLizards on the other hand...
I will never not be mad that Nintendo just sits on this franchise when all of these beautiful anthro women exist.
>>720606038>>720606620>>720606738Obligatory
>homofags have invaded the threadpack it up
>>720606738I'm more mad that the star fox clones that have been posted in this thread have gayfur art and completely unappealing female characters. How could they just leave us out like that
>>720563246That's what happens when Nintendo has no idea what to add to the series and no one works on it in-house or has a 3rd party studio to work on it.
>>720606038>Hey, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait a minute, man. They don’t think anyone can draw on-model Krystal at all, man. He just posted on-model Krystal and stuff, man. What the fuck man? that makes me ANGRY, man!
>>720606038>>720608830idk why no one draws her on model
Had a dream once where there was an episode of puppet Star Fox where Krystal showed Fox Sabre's grave. Sabre was killed by Andross's back-up when it merged with the Krazoa god. It was a good episode despite Tricky being there. Miyu, Phoenix, and Faye were also in the show.
>>720608914If only the ones that did could...
>>720611258the somewhat accurate jojomingles krystal model not being public is suffering
>>720611593https://cumminham.gumroad.com/l/kaajqthis one isn't too bad either but the guy charges for it. would be a nice fit for the hl2 krystal mod though.
>make a game like 64 again>gamecubefags will complain and not buy the game>make a game like Adventures and/or Assault again>N64fags will complain and not buy the game>make a different type of game entirely>people will complain it's too different >make a game that plays similar to past games as a tribute>people will complain it's too similar.Maybe Nintendo is too scared to make a game because fans really dont know what they want at this point. Say what you want about franchises like Zelda, Pokémon, or Sonic having split fanbases, but at least they still buy the games.
>>720595761Lol this still didn't stop him from the last 4 starfox games he butchered with his no ideas. I was hoping for failure consoles sake we'd get a starfox on switch 2...still might happen I guess, but at the rate Nintendo is turning all their Ip's into open world slop it's going to be hilarious watching the fallout from starfox open adventures.What he and Shitendo actually need to do is use the fucking IP law like it's intended and dish out warrented C&D's to that fucking VA and the insufferable fan bullshit poisoning what little soul remains of this fucking series. >>720595512Technically they never made Starfox in the first place. Not a single one, unless we're counting Argonauts upscaled work in 64. Nintendo themselves have maybe they've made a Shiggy's 10% of the series yet somehow botched all of it being ideamen.
>>720563246I'll never understand why this is a bad thing. 99% of the people saying this is a shit decision is taking an e-celeb's word.
>>720563246Just make a spin off or make a true follow up to 64 where andrew gets revenge somethingits not that fucking hard
>>720612143>Say what you will about Sonic but Sega's rules that Sonic cannot be depicted as lame have maintained his cool factor even when his games were horrid gameplay wise.Some characters don't follow company rules and still become cooler than whatever lame ass game the company puts them in. Some characters were even blue arm bandited before Sonic. >>720611713Nintendo couldn't save it like they did metroid because they didn't make enough "we're sorry" games in the series to recover one cringe game that destroyed most of what they built. Imagine dread but for Starfox, you'd have Starfox Assault 2 online multiplayer/multiple paths no linear edition. But they won't fucking do it, because that would be it and the fans would be satisfied and then what? Then you put Fox on a motorcycle right? Please don't give them ideas, they already meme this dead series with the other dead racing series and it might actually fucking happen.
>>720612332>I'll never understand why this is a bad thing.Because the VB was bad you dumb nigger. It was literally the worst, seizure inducing legitimate hazard console they released. It was so bad even they admitted it was a fucking failure and discontinued it after 5 months.
>>720599806Andross has to be made with SGI workstation graphics.
I know what I want to do with a Star Fox game. I want to have a CYOA where you play as space mercenaries who fight battles, get paid, then use money to buy ships and upgrades.
>>720579337I think he's being sarcastic.
Imagine the money they would print if they made a StarFox game where you can make your own fursona, customize your Arwing, and play online co-op and versus.
>>720563246There's a bunch of fucking indie games that play like Star Fox but you won't play them because you don't actually care about Star Fox you just want to be a performative faggot on social media.
>>720563246Nevermind me, just posting the best version of the Corneria Theme: https://youtu.be/r1JYqmJU8oM?si=xu7PMG1b67sul2Ds
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>>720615163Isn't Faye's story a carbon copy's of Krystal's or do I mix her up with someone else?
>>720614343Custom fursonas dont work in any sort of mainline game. Look at Sonic forces or whatever it was. They just need to make one without gimmicky controls.
>>720571583>That picFunny enough I have a Fox and a Peppy, so I need a slippy for the set, though for some reason Falco is much more expensive at least on Ebay.
>>720563246Just brimg the trex chad from Alpha SF2 back as the main antag and if your gonna cuck him for andross at the end just do it in a better way than with scales. If anything Andross should be a secrect final boss that only shows up during whatever the equivelant of a "perfect" run is.
>>720616171I guess, it's not like Fay had much of a backstory to begin with.
>SUPERRRRR>GAAAAYYYYY>BABBBBYYYYYY>BRRRRRRROOOOTTTTHHEEEEERRRRRSSSSSSS
>>720564623If I remember they even had Star Wolf make appearance, weird ass gimmick but the devs gave a shit at least. Even got there height and backstory lore correct with some of the SF characters.
>>720616171>Isn't Faye's story a carbon copy's of Krystal's or do I mix her up with someone else?mixed up with someone else. Faye doesn't really have much of a backstory tho anyway.
>>720618182Fara is the ugliest fucking creature I've ever seen. Never seen the bobcat or whatever next to Krystal.
>>720618019I need this as a dating sim
They couldn't even make an anime based on that one cutcene, nintendo is so lazy with this franchise.It's honestly a miracle it even got as much as it did.
>>720618298>Never seen the bobcat or whatever next to Krystal.That's Katt Monore, one of Falco's old friends that shows up in 64, Zero, and Command along a comic called "Farewell, beloved Falco".
>>720571439>720571439Missing Chibi Robo, Advance Wars, and more. Mother is mercifully dead, let it rest.
>>720619153This begginer artist really need to get his shit together
>>720616554What dinosaur name pun would this guy have that's in the same vain as FOX McCloud and Slippy TOAD?I'm guessing his first name is Rex for obvious reasons, but what about a last name?
Star Fox fans are more annoying to Nintendo than anyone else>we want a classic game with the traditional gameplay, but on foot sections taking up majority of the gameplay, 80% more cutscenes, romantic drama, and 64 player multiplayer
>>720620684>Nintendo>caring about their fans opinions
>>720620821Most of their opinions are dumb or bad for business like a crossover with Sonic, another golden sun, pc ports, and other things that won’t make money.
>>720618924If I had literally any writing expertise I'd make one, because this idea has legit potential.>Krystal is the popular alpha female that takes the most effort to win over (think Shiori Fujisaki in Tokimemo)>Katt is the punk girl trying to move on from her last love (Falco)>Miyu is the sporty tomboy whose idea of a date is a wrestling match>Fay is the sweet, but spoiled rich daddy's girl who is extremely cute and feminine>Amanda is the every-woman who is feminine, but not to Fay's extreme>Fara is the childhood friend who takes zero effort to win overThoughts?
>>720621191I'd play it.
Krystal Ball
>>720621293good bot
>>720621241 Same. If it had Tokimemo mechanics layered over a Star Fox skin, with missions or side events that actually impact your relationships (like taking Katt out for a mission and scoring a high rank boosts her affection), it could print money-well, at least in furry circles lmao. Add branching paths based on who you romance and maybe even some rival drama from Falco or Panther. God tier idea, honestly.
>>720622534Indeed, now we just need someone to make it.
>>720621717>To me the default Star Fox game is essentially Ratchet and Clank.Anon is kinda spittin', actually.
>>720621112Ah yes because doing a plasic virtual boy really gets them money.At this point nintendo and the fans are both the same retardedness.
Reminder there were supposed to be on-foot segments in 64, but they got cut for time.
>>720619178>>720571439Allow me to recite a copypasta from a year ago when people were seething about Famicom Detective Club getting a revival:Starfox is deadF-Zero is dead (F-Zero 99 doesn't count and you know it)Kid Icarus is deadChibi-Robo was outright murderedCustom Robo is deadGolden Sun is not only dead, but ended on a MASSIVE cliffhangerPunch-Out is deadEarthBound is deadPanel De Pon is deadStarfy is deadWario Land is deadSeveral actually good FC/NES games like Murasame Castle, Joy Mech Fight and Startropics will never receive modern revivals
>>720563246Do people actually want Star Fox or do they just want the characters? Rail shooters you can finish in an hour or less if you don't care about replaying for high scores seem like a really niche genre today, and I don't trust a lot of the fags clamouring for more Star Fox to actually be into that.
>>720623838>"hurr hurr rail shooters not viable a hurr durr"Jump off a cliff.
>>720569642because they're holding a monopoly on the rights to make it. It isn't just that they're not making stuff themselves, they're witholding the IP from everyone else tooIt's like they're a toddler with a cake that they refuse to eat, and they refuse to let anyone else eat it. They just want the cake to rot
>>720563483kek
>>720564314If Miyamoto hated SF so much, why did he push so hard for SFZero to be made and have a massive marketing campaign?
Why does everyone like Krystal?
>>720626076Dudes cooked he should step downand and let some fresh blood have a go, shamelessly holding onto his IPs because they are his legacy and letting them fade into obscurity because he doesn't know what to do with them is retarded given how strong Nintendos franchise recognition is.
>>720594556>furries are on the riseunfortunatelyfucking hate these normies ruining my fandom, getting triggered over anything we OGs knew was a huge nothingburger, and still is
>>720627128>NormiesYou are the normalfag
>>720621191>>Miyu is the sporty tomboy whose idea of a date is a wrestling matchThasrite
>>720627268newfaggot
Star Fox is dead because no one actually give a fuck about rail shooters in the year of our lord 2025, and Star Fox fags are too delusional to realize that and will get mad if Nintendo changed the genre. So, might as well just let it die.
>>720563246I want to give fox a hug. he's been through a lot.>no games in 2 entire generations (starlink is not star fox)>fell victim to toys to life bullshit gimmick>games have nowhere to go since his character arc is complete. genre is too videogame-y for a "cinematic aaa experience" and too short for casuals>hallucinates his father being alive>loses the girl in the end (command, second reboot)>is deep in the redhe's like the manifestation of suffering in video games
>>720612209Argonaut had nothing to do with syar fox 64 retard.
>>720565195>Assault was a cool move in a more arcade direction>ground segmentsthey should fitted glowing arrows all over the levels to help maintain the combo gauge as if it were a true arcade game. i.e. have it play like the old medal of honor games where you get from one end of the level to the other. that would have made the land segments more star-fox like
>>720565195Assault was never good
>>720616171You're mixing up Krystal with fara. Both Fay and Fara were from rich families who decided to serve in the military by flying aircraft. We actually know even less about Krystal than Fay
>just do a different genre>try something newhowever good that game ends up, even if it's goty material (which it won't be), it will inevitably be seen as star fox's federation force
>>720627128that's what you faggots get for being so "open and tolerant" and aligning with the lgbtranny lobby. now you're slowly being co-opted and upstaged by commercial interests who wish to sterilize and lobotomize the fandom to make it advertiser-friendly so they can line their pockets. you've made your bed, now lie in it
Assault showing up on NSO and doing numbers might be the series' last hopeIt's not at all likely but dumber shit has gone viral on TikTok/etc. and been revivifed so there's definitely a timeline where it could happen (just probably not ours)
>>720614343They tried that with several other titles and it didn't make a difference in sales like dillion Dead heat brakera and Nintendo sports
>>720626139I just think she's neat.
>>720614343I play star fox for the characters though. the corny muppet-like show is the appeal of the series
What if Star Fox, but it's also Mass Effect?
>>720630673i never agreed to let mentally ill soc media brainrotted trannies into my fandomso i at least don't blame myself>"open and tolerant" and aligning with the lgbtranny lobbyfunny thing is that the people who got into the fandom due to that, are the most anti openness and tolerance of "icky" fetishes in the whole fucking furry fandom, hope those puritan moral niggers get the fucking Kirk treatment
Here's your new Starfox game for the modern audience.https://youtube.com/shorts/WI_uvXgymi0
>>720565331Hope it looks better than the cover. That arwing looks like its fat and asking to be put out of it's misery.
>>720630727Assault on NSO won't change anything. If anything it will just show just how disappointing it actually is.
>>720565331I have the figurine and it looks uglier than the other versions with the exception of the assault one. Way too fat and awkward looking for me.
>>720563246Starfox is shit
>Never the guy>Never drew a dime>Never cut a memorable promo>Never put anyone over>Never had the balls to step out of his tech demo comfort even when Miyamoto threw millions at him>Only had one good game>Main evented the lowest drawing Nintendo system of the '90s>Main evented the lowest drawing Wii U exclusive of the '10s>Tanked the buyrate of Star Fox Zero so hard his sequel was cancelled>Was barely ever in the AAA picture outside of the SNES and N64 because he was never a big enough deal>Only the 12th best member of Smash Bros 64>Only the 6th best member of Star Fox Assault>His furry muppet design was cringeworthy>His ugly bellshaped head was cringeworthy>Shit taste in video games>Shit gimmicks>Failed at getting over with the Ninthings crowd so badly he was reduced to a bonus character in Starlink which also failed to draw dimes>Only significant achievement was being one of 12 N64 games that actually sold more than a million copies>Is the Nintendo equivalent of that one insufferably mediocre middle manager whose sole professional """""""achievement"""""" is staying in the same shitty job for 30 years>Drew so poorly in his 2016 game that Inkling of all people had to take the spotlight off him>spent the latter part of his career buried by superior young talent>The biggest impact he had on the business was giving Miyamoto enough leverage to swindle money from sad millenial furry manchildren who can't grow up and let go of the past
>>720636652>>Only the 12th best member of Smash Bros 64Smart you didn't include melee since even you can't spinntuat fox is for tier.
>>720636652Isnt krystal is the worst character in assault by far? All her stats are below average.
I never played SF, but I know that a lot of people were pissed about Zero, I know it had some pretty good developers behind it
>>720636834A lot of butthurt people towards zero didn't like the controls even though they were fine once you got the hang of it in the training mode. A lot of zero haters also never actually played the game since that would require owning the terribly selling wii u. You have to understand a lot of star fox "fans" are only here for the vibes and characters not the games.
>>720637197Zero is ok.Not good but not bad.
>>720616579It's kinda funny how later Miyu became Katt and Fay Bill.Also sheep Fay is superior
>>720638112I agree but it gets an unreal amount of hate despite that
>>720630763Nintendo Switch Sports is in the top 20 Switch sales with over 13 million copies sold. That's hardly a failure. Besides. Most of the furry shit is stuck trying to earn playing online.
>>720639292I just think Miyu and Fay were ultimately victims of the fact that Takaya Imamura had very little to do with Star Fox 2, despite being a big guarding force for SF1 and SF64 and future games after that. Another dude at Nintendo, Masanao Arimoto, took over his role as SF2's character/sprite designer and he made Miyu and Fay after cycling through a bunch of concepts for avatars for the Light Arwing class, like the sheep design you posted, there were even humans and robots and shit.Imamura's only known contribution towards SF2 was doing the initial sketch for Star Wolf which funny enough had Andrew instead of "Algy" like in the final game, which right there shows the change of primary character designer, and obviously when Imamura regained the wheel for SF64 he'd largely stick to his own concepts like re-reverting Algy back into Andrew and making his own cat and dog companion characters.In a way it also explains why Krystal came in and "took their spot", because interviews reveal that Imamura's essentially the reason she even became a Star Fox character, Rare was initially just going to cut her out entirely in the transition from Dino Planet to SFA but Imamura who was a superviser/producer for the game requested she'd stay and he'd even help provide her final Vampirella redesign, claiming in hindsight that she was the character he felt the most attachment to from SFA's roster. It was also his call to bring her back in Assault, wanting to acknowledge SFA as a valid canon entry and also thinking that she was "enticing" in her own right.
>>720563246Important question. Which is BestPawpad FeetHumanoid FeetHumanoid Feet with Pawpad soles and toes?
>>720636652>swindle money from sad millenial furry manchildren who can't grow up and let go of the pastwhat are you talking about? there's no noteworthy star fox merch
>>720636823her bomb barrier lets you facetank and kill anyone.>>720637197>they were fine once you got the hang of it in the training modethat's for faggots. modern video just hit start game then sit back and play. if they can't get it right out of the box, then it must suck period
You now remember that the Blue Marine exists.
>>720640315Humanoid feetAll else is gross
>>720563246nintendo would rather spend a trivial amount of time and money on an emulator and cardboard sleeve than years and millions of dollars on a new video game? wowie zowie say it ain't so!what do you expect you fucking imbecile? the series is dead, the people spearheading it have moved on after multiple failures and better business opportunities.do you also shed a tear each time a new nintendo direct doesn't announce a sequel to balloon fight or geist? we were so close bros! i can't believe nintendo would rather make money than fund retarded vanity projects for developmentally arrested 40 year olds!
>>720639959More or less. Apparently Dylan Cuthbert had some hand in giving them names and personalities. Honestly I think Miyu and Fay (both spaniel and sheep) were really decent designs and could easily be worked into Starfox.But It took some time before the 64 era dogshit renders were changed into something good, and honestly Miyu and Fay just didn't work well as 3D renders.>>720640315Humanoid feed with pawpad soles and toes. EZ
>>720567758We want rail shooters, not flight games.
>>720580980Then why would you hire those people? Just to give them work?
>>720642602I want something like an arcade space shooter. I don't want Elite Dangerous autism or Star Citizen "IT WILL COME OUT EVENTUALLY". Starlink was perfect for that.
>>720568994>Z
>>720593673>A whole new set of antagonists, protags, side characters and game objectives are needed since they can't just reuse andross and the lylat war without it just being very derivative.Both Assault and Command did exactly that. But Assault needed more meat on the bone and Command needed to not be total shit, neither of which were true so we're stuck with pseudo-64 remakes forever. And as long as Shiggy Diggy Doo is employed, all future games will have retarded control gimmicks instead of just giving us a good, solid game that plays well.
>>720569162They probably HAVE and cancelled it. Multiple times. Look at the Prime 4 situation with Namco.We don't get to peek behind the curtain of game companies but Nintendo and everyone else fund prototypes and start development of games but pull the plug on as many games, if not more, than they publish.There probably were Starfox games in development during the Switch 1 era.
>>720571583Because it was on WiiU. If they released it on Switch with fixed controls it would have sold millions.
>>720646539>and Command needed to not be total shit,They both were completely shit
>>720567758I like animal characters in my fantasy video games. But with that said, there really aren't that many games like StarFox because rail shooters, especially 3D ones, are a dying genre.
>>720563246why is he all roughed up and bleeding? falling out with krystal? another scuffle with falco? wolf and the gang paid a visit? some mobster ambushed him?
You know, looking back at SF2 prototypes. They clearly tried experimenting with something like big roaming missions, they had a tighter and much varied design of what eventually became Starfox 2 release. I wish Dylan wasn't such a sore faggot and went back to these and make them with modern tech. It could work.
>>720566592based infinite warfare's campaign enjoyer
>>720626139Sex sells
>>720563246>Jumped to Nintendo Gamecube/GBA after the PS1>"Wow, I love Golden Sun, Starfox and F-Zero, can't wait for the next games!">...
>>720630371>You're mixing up Krystal with Fara.Ah that's right. Not too versed in Star Fox lore but now I remember. >We actually know even less about Krystal than FayThat's kinda nuts. She's really only eye-candy, huh?
>>720648686Salter, my beloved. IW's campaign is just a rock solid adventure with a nice wide variety of fun missions and a decent good vs evil story. And some damn good side missions too. Shoutouts to planting EMP charges on the engines.
>>720564150still waiting on anthropomorphic F-zero. free idea there.
>>720647619>why is he all roughed up and bleeding?Because the original meme had the main character looking like that.
It's criminal how little art of Fay forma sheep is out there. No porn except shit like pic related.
>>720649860I asked for the in-universe reason you spergspeaking of which, it must have been senilemoto beating him over the head with a crowbar
>>720651512Not sure why you would need a reason in the universe for Fox to look like that, but okay. The answer is clearly got into a 1v4 with Star Wolf again.
>>720651512>I asked for the in-universe reason you spergBecause Fox is a mercenary-for-hire who beats up people for a living? Are you retarded? Do you sperg out over Adventure & Assault and refuse to recognize them or something?
>>720640315Objectively Pawpad Feet
>>720563246Ive never been big into StarFox. The IP was solid and successful so why did nintendo stop making games for it?
>>720653375>The IP was solid and successful so why did nintendo stop making games for it?Poor sales over the years
>>720640315pawpads
Fox, Falco, Wolf and Krystal are Smash characters now.
I wan the Krystal trilogy (Adventure, Assault, Command) to be released on NSO
Starfox will become a huge hit in 20 years when they make another game for a full VR experience, but no one will be able to afford the new system so it will be shelved again.
>>720653530>I wanHeh
>>720653646A VR sex game with Krystal? HOLY BASED
>>720563246>>720563483>Comparing a brand new game to NSO portsRetards.If they put as much work into a new Starfox game as they did in Virtual Boy NSO you'd be instead crying here how Nintendo hates Star Fox, they are soulless and how Wii U was better because SF Zero wasn't that bad in retrospect
>>720653460Correct on Wolf, Fox, and Falco but Krystal hasn't become playable yet (and I don't see that changing unless Sakurai or the next Smash director wants new Star Fox content). So she isn't a smash character yet, at least to me.
>>720640315This>>720649936
There's nothing else that has this vibe.
>>720580980haha what a story mark
>>720658029Man I've played Ex-Zodiac and had to refund it. The devs didn't get it - I don't care about lesbian monkeys or Space Harrier levels. I want my military rail shooter with a rag-tag squadron going against the whole world.I'm not sure if Whisker Squadron is any better because it's done by Race the Sun people, which was a good game mind you, just not sure if they can do Starfox justice.
>>720626139sex appeal
Sin and Punishment is better than any Star Fox game and it only has an assist trophy.
>>720659435Well, of course, no Sin and Punishment game has outsold a Star Fox game. It doesn't help that the first Smash game was on the Nintendo 64, when Nintendo had fewer IPs back then, and Star Fox was at its highest in terms of sales.
Something the series itself seems to downplay all too often is that the Star Fox Team are mercenaries. Sure, our heroes are good guys and have ethical standards, but they're still in it for the money. Emphasizing this in both narrative and gameplay would help a lot, I think.
>make 3rd person krystal game>make 3rd person renamon game>make 3rd person rouge the bat game>make 3rd person gardevoir game>print free moneythey know this and are too cowardly to do it
>Nintendo would rather bring back a dead console than appeal to furries while marketing their game to childrenAbsolutely based.
>>720660598>leaving money on the table to "spite the furries"weird flex but ok
>>72066003264 had them giving a full bill to General Pepper. SFA was also done as a contract. Assault did downplay it, Command some more. I've never played Zero.
>>720563483Sadly, this. The Labo probably gave them a huge profit compared to the last time they released Star Fox on the Wii U. If you present the two next to each other and ask them which one to go with, they'll easily go with something like the Virtual Bo because its easier money.I'll say this over and over: Nintendo fans need to stand up for themselves. If that Virtual Boy thing fails then they probably won't try something like it again for awhile.
>>720642874They're in charge of NSO jackass
Tell me about Fay. Why does she wear the bow?
>>720660598>>720661052The actual problem is that they appealed so hard to furries that it killed their series because the "fans" the catered to cared more about shipping and fanfiction than the game itself.
>>720639292Why is sheep Fay giving fuck-me eyes?
>>720665886to look cute for human men
>>720666087when has star fox made a single nod at furfags. name 3 instances>inb4 krystalshe's supposed to be something along the lines of the series' minerva mink (i.e. a sexy babe adapted for the setting), not a furfag's oc donutsteel
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>>720649374>That's kinda nuts. She's really only eye-candy, huh?Yes and no. Krystal has quite a lot of backstory and lore but only from the original dinosaur planet build of the game. In star fox adventures Nintendo of Japan removed that and even cerinia from the English version of the game so that's non Canon. Krystal is just a blue fox thing that showed up one day on sauria.
>>720667570well she is an anthro woman.
>>720660598Nintendo may even release cancelled virtual boy games before releasing another star fox.
Krystal wife
