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>"OH N-"
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how do i get to this little shit?
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architects ww@?
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>>720564051
from below
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>>720564017
Ok bros I am tired of this game's bullshit, tell me what the strongest possible crest + tools combo is for cheesing annoying bullshit bosses. I am not going to spend any more time in Bilewater than I need to.
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ACKKK
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CITY OF IRON/STEEL ASSASSIN DLC SOON BROS
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>>720564136
fumbled my way through bilewater with it
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im going into bilewater pray for me
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>"-igger"
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>>720564185
Reaper, the volt filament and spam the fuck out of threadstorm.
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>>720564207
Nah that's for Steel Soul mode only
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Where to found post Act 1 crests?
What's the best way to farm rosaries in act 2?
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>>720564185
Reaper for exploration
Wanderer for boss fight
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Nyleth was actually such a lame fucking boss oh my god
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Funny how in some places the super jump will just not work because there's no roof, and in others you can spiderman into space. Seems like a screwup from the devs
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You guys overhated bilewater for me, spent the whole game preparing for it and then killed the boss in 3 tries.
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Bros, am I going insane or did the entire color palette of the game turn grey since act 3? I feel like I'm going colorblind.
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Shadow cloak of hollow knight perfectly balanced contact damage, allowing the player to avoid collision with an enemy that teleports all over place.
Guess what happens when you remove it
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wheres the best place to grind this, and what tools do i need for each one? longpin seems to work for skewered
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How do I get to the other side of that rumbling door in Pilgrin's Rest?
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>>720564017
some bosses and areas in this game genuinely make me wonder if this shit got playtested at all
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>>720564378
Its hinting at entire kingdom or a society rules by an iron fist
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>>720564195
Source?
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>>720564185
Architect with poison cogflies and sting shards, but the runback platforming will be pure suffering
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>>720564478
>Guess what happens when you remove it
I use parries instead.
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Mount Fay scares me maybe I'll stay in prison where it's warm
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fuck these act 3 bosses
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>>720564462
>black void starts invading the world
>g-guise did the color palette turn grey?
use your fucking brain, nigger
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>>720564489
Shellwood. There's like ~8 enemies, mostly water skitter guys right next to Bellharts bench. Just run in and throw tools at all of them then leave
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>>720564207
where do you find that? i havent done steel soul yet
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>>720564185
Git Gud
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>>720564451
Its supposed to not work when there's no roof because there is nothing to attach nail onto.
The space thing never happened to me, although i used soar to reach the crab boss but did it too early while the ceiling was being destroyed and got sent to neverland.
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>>720564478
Well, do I have good news for you.
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>>720564478
>the tool you get in the final area of the game balances the game
Uhh... I legit did all dreamers and HK before I went down the abyss, kinda forgot I had a pin on that spot in the map. HK was balanced just fine without it.
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>>720564601
oh, i thought it had to be the fat fucks in putrified ducts. cool, thanks anon
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>>720564392
>Where to found post Act 1 crests?
There's only one I believe (maybe two) :
- Architect, by getting enough tools to buy the key from the architect in underworks
- Witch, by finding the root tentacle baby (I don't actually remember where, though) and completeing its quest
>What's the best way to farm rosaries in act 2?
Go to Songclave, go to the long corridors to the left. There are 6 big enemies that drop 32 beads, 55 with the money charm. That's 200-300 in one run, provided you don't get hit
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>>720564401
i liked her because of having to keep platforming while still being able to play agressively. Tired of flat rectangle arenas
it was probably in part more enjoyable because i was using hunter and harpoon frequently instead of just spamming with wanderer or some dumb shit
>>720564489
alternatively, whatever gives you the most rosaries
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>>720564489
Coral Chambers/Grand Bellway elevator (don't remember which one), has a bunch of rooms with 3 or 4 enemies that you can kill, go back to bench and reset
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>>720564017
Anyone know how often Warden Flys respawn? I'm getting my ass handed to me by Last Judge and want the second bench in Blasted Steps near him, but I already killed Warden Fly once in Bile and have since never seen one show up after like 10 hours.
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>>720564185
certified you didnt beat the game one
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>>720564641
pray tell
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>>720564601
specifically, use cogflies with poison. They reset if you sit on a bench before they're used up, so it's very easy on the shards.
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how are you supposed to get to the act 3 without a guide?
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>>720564478
shadow cloak in HK is completely optional, pantheons hold up perfectly without it (bar absrad/traitor lord obviously)
silksong has more contact damage issues because it just does
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>>720564401
she is a cool pogo practice boss
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>>720564489
i did it in the marrow since they have low hp and my tools weren't very upgraded. you use fire damage for seared and corkscrew-like things for shredded.
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>>720564531
There is literally 0% chance Cherry ran through the shitshow that is Bilewater more than a single time. What a dogshit zone.
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>>720564724
You have shadow cloak + sharp shadow in the game.
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>>720564489
Probably anywhere but I did it at the bench in Shellwood, took out the 4 stretchy neck guys plus one floater, then reset. I feel like the tools for each type are very self explanatory, I used spike ball, bomb, and conch shell
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>>720564743
I did all missions and stuff before the final boss and then you a quest in the board to go talk to the dude in songclave. You don't need any guides
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>>720564195
"Lacenet is problematic" fags easily move on to the next possible target.
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>>720564591
Fuck off retard, when the bitch is screaming no shit I notice the greyscale effect but they also subtly turned every area fucking grey and it sucks because now every area feels the same and you're already exploring the same shit you did in act 2 so it's a pretty fucking dumb choice by the devs.
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>>720564017
Why does this game have so much fetish fuel?
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>>720564814
the one that costs 3 mana and takes up a magic slot? I'll pass
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im starting to think the git gud crowd are the people that have used every possible cheese tactic that makes the fights braindead and easy
elden ring actually made me realize it sooner
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post yfw the ornstein and smough duo at the end of hunter's march
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>>720564489
I did it in Mosshome. It's very fast, enemies drop multiple items. Just kill 3-4 and rest at the bench.
Seared : flintslate
Shredded : Cogwheel or Drill
Skewered : Longpin
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>>720564868
So if you know why the fuck are you asking? Holy shit you are more retarded than a fucking ape, neck yourself you are a waste of oxygen
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>>720564017
Time for regret
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>>720564915
The second I unlocked Beast Crest they died first try. I was stunned because I spent over an hour on them with reaper/wanderer
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>>720564921
You can get shredded with beast crest attacks btw.
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>>720564878
Honestly it feels like they saw all the fags on reddit squealing over Lace and decided to make her sexual as fuck for no reason
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>>720564136
best crest and I don't even use tools
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I aint ever trusting snails again what the hell
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>>720564478
dash/roll iframes are mistake and completely ruin the combat of any game with them by destroying the element of positioning
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>>720564959
the curse made me git gud at that fight it's not that hard, just annoying
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>>720565025
this one game did it well
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>>720564959
It's not bad, only took me like 5 tries. I guess to be fair just spamming nail is my play style regardless though, but at least this was the one time I bothered using charge attacks because farming silk is pointless
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this was the hardest fight in the game
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>>720564959
honestly it's easier than i thought
the spikes are tricky but you can just disable them by hitting
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>>720565025
spacing is pointless in a game where enemies teleport all over arena on a whim
this ain't 9 sols
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I heard there's a way to cheese the Bilewater boss. I hate the runback, how to do it?
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>>720564697
I have never seen them respawn, but they're always there on the first visit. The wiki is likely wrong here.
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>>720564185
Witch + Mirror
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>>720564865
Any ship with Hornet is problematic because she's both older than everyone and also looks like a child.
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Love these little niggas like you would not believe
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>>720564207
>City of Steel DLC
>available to play only for saves in Steel Soul mode
Team Cherry I kneel
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>>720564883
It's a mixture of getting better at core gameplay and learning to use your tools when you can't. If you can't do both you better be god tier at one or the other
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How do i get to this flea and in what area is the Pickled Muckmaggot, i assume Bilewater but I can't find it.
>>720565096
Boomerang is pretty good against him.
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>>720564878
Actual bug physiology / behavior is just like that
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>>720565096
Bombs. You want it
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>>720564451
Definitely a screwup, try doing it above The Slab and you'll see what I mean (unless they've patched it).
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>>720564834
this wound up being a great route, thanks anon. i ran flintslate, longpin, and sawtooth circlet
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>>720564930
Sorry anon, it's very obvious that you're tilted about Groal or whatever else dumb shit you're getting filtered by. Hope you recover soon. Watch some cat videos or something.
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>>720565096
Hide in the stink water to avoid his projectile attacks and bigg succ.
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What the fuck are the glowing blue berries in Wormways for? I just opened up the area, are they for a future quest?
For reference, I'm going through the Citadel right now and just unlocked the Clawline
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>>720565083
Let him cook.
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>>720564959
I'm going to attempt this today, been procrastinating for a while.

How many people itt have done the cursed ending?
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Is it normal that I want to kiss and fuck this thing?
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>>720564185
architect, poison, sling, cogflies, and whatever survival stuff you prefer

just throw flies and run away from everything. only problem is it you can waste a lot of shards.
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>>720565232
How about you PLAY THE FUCKING GAME instead of getting spoonfed
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>>720565180
>How do i get to this flea
Gotta go through Wisp Thicket.
>>720565180
>what area is the Pickled Muckmaggot
Sinner's Road but you need double jump.
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>>720565137
I mean mine showed up in Bilewater first visit, but I had no idea it was an exclusive enemy until after I had killed it and noticed in a guide something about getting captured helps you get to the grapple hook early. What I need to do is get this second bench unlocked so I can make the runback to the Judge more palatable; but fuck me I don't want to nuke my save of 16 hours past the mistake to unfuck it.
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>>720565282
Go fucking away Radiance
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>>720565282
I know the ghost is cute but keep it together Hornet. You're losing it.
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I LOVE THE SHAMAN CREST!!!!
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>>720565232
Explore my nigga, it's all on the map, the zone is small too
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>>720565172
and as time goes on i take what people say as easy as not a good indicator either. dark souls got easier over time due to people coming into games already with an expectation and reading/being told what to use what on
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>>720564185
architect with poisoned flintslate, you still have to hit the enemy but it deals ridiculous damage, especially with charged attacks
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>>720564959
It's not bad, I don't think I could have done it if it was Lace 2 instead.
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>>720565247
I did it. It's not that bad. I feel with a regular build and the ability to heal the last boss and Cradle Lace would be pushovers.
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>>720565232
Travel as far north as you can in the wormways to find the answer.
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>>720565096
Take it slow and spam all your tools, his attacks are really easy to dodge
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>Hornet was named Hornet because the Bee Queen was more of a mother to her than her pineapple spider mom
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>>720565247
It's a reasonable challenge but not the hardest thing in the game by far.
Use your Clawline a lot.
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>>720565228
That's not cheese. It's intended strategy. Typical boss design where the safest way is where the player feels scared to go. Good other example is Gravelord Nito from Souls. Most players will run in to look for him, but that way you bait skeletons and mobs, if you wait for him to come to you he's an easy solo fight.
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>>720565345
Ew, but first one is kek
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>>720565325
>guide
Just git gud man if you're going to be that kind of a faggot. The runback to the Judge isn't even bad, drop the game now before you join the Bilewater crew.
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>>720564185
Poison cogflies are more efficient, but for a bit of extra health insurance...

Can easily keep at full silk with druid eyes and impaling youself on spikes.
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>>720565316
Thank you.
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>>720565417
She's named Hornet because she's has an itty bitty waist and I want to shove her in my urethra.
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So do we have a definitive list with all the endings and how to get them? I heard there are 6.
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Am I really the only one using this setup? I never see anyong use any of that. It feels so incredibly strong.
I'm talking blue charms, yellows literally all suck except the dice and I don't care about tools
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why does hornet hate her godly blood saying gods do nothing but suffering when back home there were two ruling gods and one even helps her out in the end
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>>720565160
shes just small, a weird side effect of being the king's daughter
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>>720564051
How can you see the fleas locations?
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>waste an hour farming 880 rosaries for pic related
>it sucks
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>>720565325
I hope you will need to nuke it and suffer lol
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>>720565584
Pair it with the faster bind
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>>720565448
By guide I mean people guiding people here.

The Judge runback is perfectly executable but a pain in the ass to do it no-hit.
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>>720565584
>>720565603
I've been running these two and they're actually quite good together.
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>>720565551
Regular bugs left on their own seem to get by just fine but when pale beings get involved they set up these elaborate societies and then next thing you know there's mountains of corpses.
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>>720565584
it's good tho
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>>720565247
I did it, it's easy. Just know that you can bop the ground spikes she spawns on the ground.
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>>720565550
i use longclaw instead of the bell, and silkspeed ankles are required for any build.
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>>720565584
No way, this thing is actually cool. You get 2 health then the last 2 after it completes. I rather get knocked out of a half heal then get knocked out of a full heal with nothing gained.
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>>720565550
I have flintslate, dice, and compass on wanderer but the rest is different since I'm going for a parry/movement based playstyle
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>>720565349
>heal over a pit
>no longer allowed to play the game
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>>720564017
I'm about to do try this ending, wish me luck.
I wish there was a way to copy save files so I would do it later
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https://x.com/BradyClaph83904/status/1966888872010461501
o7 my man
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>>720565553
She's not just small, everyone says she looks like a child.
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I have this downloaded, but haven't played it yet. So shes like an earwig or something?
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>>720564489
You can get shredded organs using charged attacks with the architect's crest. Actually got that one done fighting the broodmother.
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>>720565739
On PC you can, on console I presume if they have a backup function you could
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>fall into nasty maggot swamp
>get infested with maggots
>years of degenerate hentai fill my head
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JUST BEAT LAST JUDGE
im so happy. hated the fight at first but it was actually pretty fun
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>>720565834
same but for me it was the roaches in sinner's road
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>>720564606
Blasted Steps
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>>720565550
Injector+binder and flex spot was my go to yeah. Skull mask is pretty much a perma slot on steel soul so I'm still debating whether I want long claw or multibinder.
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>>720565721
Filtered.
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>exploring act 3
>kill boss in the surgery place which loops me back to underworks
>decide to explore to see if i missed anything
>find broken roof which i somehow missed prior
>mfw i get into one of the rooms and see this
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

if this man had a reward or something i am going to be so mad
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>>720565651
Then why are pale beings even a part of this world ecosystem? They’re written like forces of nature, but morality is somehow applied to them?
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>>720565417
Team Cherry had that idea of the "Three Mothers" for about 11 years now, they intended to place it in Hollow Knight but couldnt find a place for it, so they made a whole game
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>>720565852
I wish they bench was closer but I am enjoying the fight somewhat.
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>Act 3
>Game expects you to scour the fuckhuge map for YET another time with a new movement ability
genuinely fuck off this is so god damn tedious and unrewarding
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Bilewater is the best area in the game
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>>720565819
yeah dude you're getting it
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>>720565852
Congratulations, you finished the tutorial
first time I beat the Judge her explosion at the end still killed me
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>>720565584
>>720565674
What he said. And if you use the bell on top of that, you can actually bait attacks, heal through them then counter attack immediatly for free hits
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>>720565550
flintslate + wanderer is very strong but it only feels worth using for bosses, using a ranged tool to help with fliers was more helpful for most of the game
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>>720564539
Bogdabros, we're so fucking back.
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>>720564136
Busy piercing the heavens.
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>>720565926
The main quest literally tells you where to go.
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>>720565905
he's just a poor wagie
he had nothing for you
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>>720565819
Hornet is half spider, half Wyrm
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I love quitting to main menu when I'm at 1 HP.
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>>720565912
DO NOT AWOOO
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>>720566029
All slut.
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>>720566034
im only missing speedrun but fuck high halls gauntlet and trobbio with 0 masks and only 1 nail upgrade
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>>720565282
Do not fuck the moth
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>>720566034
I thought people said that didn't work in steel soul?
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use this to unga group fights and long gauntlets. and some bosses.
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Fact: all the people telling you don't need a guide have used a guide
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>>720565981
Fucking sweet, I'll have to try that. My second blue slot has had crit mask there since I got it.
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>>720566029
So she's spyrm
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>sinners road
>bilewater
>the mist
>all in the span of 10 minutes
How the fuck did i gloss over this much of the game this easily, i even went all the way and got the first song needed from the nu dreamers.
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>>720566147
does multi binder increase witch/mirror damage?
I tried it and thought it didn't work
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>>720566174
I'd rather she be Wider
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>>720566163
Or have played literally any metroidvania before.
It's not hard to check every wall.
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Hollow Knight
I reached the City of Tears, expected a Hornet rematch and she fucked off.
I have been circling it entirely, just defeated the Soul Master, unlocking the downwards attack that breaks ground
Can someone help me make sense of the lore? From what I gather there was some sort of infection spreading but no matter how much they tried even researching souls wasn't enough, with the Hunter theorizing that the infection actually comes from the inside.
I assume my character is some sort of exception to the rule as someone corrupted but that remains sane since Hornet attacked him straight away calling him a ghost but in the 2nd encounter she realized he was different, while the Hunter's notes on the shade left behind indicate it isn't something unique to him and many other bugs leave a shade when they die.
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>>720566112
You could get the second upgrade without losing much time. Also can you not go through White Ward instead of Trobbio? Speedrunners don't do it and I wasn't sure if it was because it was faster to fight, or if I was forgetting a one way door or something
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>>720564697
I saw one of them in the far fields area but killed, and then I never saw another again, even on the other areas people reported seeing one. Perhaps I progressed too much.
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>>720566034
There any good speedrun guides yet? I'm not worried about the 30hr one I just plan to do Steel Soul 100% and try to knock that one out at the same time.
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>>720565852
Last Judge is nothing compared to what awaits you ahead.
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>>720566163
Basically you pick up so much information via osmosis here that you basically are being guided. It's unavoidable unless you plan to miss out on early day threads of a brand new title.
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Why did beast crest get a slot nerf when the witch crest didn't?
Also, people who think beast pogo is bad are just shit at the game.
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>>720565912
AWOOOOOOO
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>>720566240
off topic, gtfo
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>>720566112
at least you can cheese the big dudes in the high halls gauntlet. The next worst thing becomes the dudes with the cogflies.
>>720566143
It does in fact work.
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>>720566112
Cross Stich makes it kinda manageable imo
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>>720566195
not mirror, but adds another hit to the tentacles
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This game has more shit bosses than it does good ones, which is fucking insane considering 7 years
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>>720566263
Yeah that's something I've been doing is going to all these other locations frequently, like three times every playsession to all these spawn locations, and not one has spawned since the first one I killed. I'm even clearing all the enemies in those zones just in case it's a "kill mob X times for it to have a chance to be swapped by RARE MOB."
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>>720566163
You don't need a guide, but some areas are hidden behind inane secrets.
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>>720564621
Kill yourself >>720564930
Kill your entire family, then yourself
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>>720565905
Nice find anon. Anyone know what happened to Huntress, the bug that asked us to collect all the meat in Act 2?
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>>720566240
Finish the game, most of the important stuff gets cleared up.
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>>720566418
I've found the bosses to be pretty great, they get better the deeper you get into the game
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>>720566240
Your picture is cringe as fuck and your post is retarded, too. Get lost.
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>>720565584
it's one of the crutch tools along with fast heal. pair them together and you'll pretty much never die
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How do you get back into the void after the first escape???
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>>720566316
It's not bad it just has the worst range of any bounce because
>if you're right next to the object you want to bounce, you headbutt them before the attack starts and take a hit plus NO bounce
and my favorite
>if the target is lower than you then you can run out of hedgehog power too soon and not register a bounce once you've reached it

What nerf did beast crest get? I didn't notice any changes to it mentioned before.
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>>720566301
30h is beyond generous, it should be 20h and still would be easy
i even bothered doing twisted child ending for additional cheevo on that save and still had 8h left to spare
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>>720564489
I thought you had to do it in putrid ducts so I stayed there for an hour
I'm retarded desu
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>>720566475
I know if you don't do the quest she does get eaten by her child in act 3
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was I supposed to go to back to bellhart first?
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>>720565581
Super secret area with a super secret NPC
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>>720566301
I somewhat followed the current any% speedrun route with some detours to wormways and hunter's march to get the plasmium drug and the fractured mask. Also saving Jubilana to buy the Ascendant's grip to cheese the big dudes in the High Halls gauntlet.
No guides for 100% speedrun yet.
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DISABLE QUICK LOAD IN STEEL SOUL WHY IS THIS NOT A THING
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>>720566163
Genuinely the only area I needed help was the broodfeast quest. Everything else was just common sense or exploration
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>>720566569
just keep playing
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>>720564017
>cog dancers runback
The most AIDs thing I've seen in the game so far, until I realised the devs want you to be at low health since the first stage of cog dancers is just free hits.
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>>720566571
Beast has only two jello two tools, that's the nerf. While Witch still gets to use blues and shite.
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>>720566598
Yes lol
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>>720566594
What are these strange glyphs? Can we decypher them with an item in-game??
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>>720566659
I have the flower im asking how to go back
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>>720566594
squid game
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i get less rosaries using snitch pick then just killin the enemy. whats up with that?
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>>720566663
>cog dancers runback
More like the devs didn't expect players to be so shit they die to the most telegraphed boss in the history of videogames.
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>>720566673
Oh yeah then I getcha. I thought you meant they patched it.

Honestly my problem with Beast Crest is I don't have enough yellows yet to make it viable. Weighted belt and dice, maybe the sprint anklets. I'm hoping I get something more to really make it shine soon, right after I beat this Judge character.
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>>720566739
Update your game, it's bugged.
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>>720564017
Do you get a followup to that bitch after you deliver the polips?
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>>720566240
The infection comes from the radiance which you'll meet later. The pale king (your father) tried to stop the radiance by containing her in one of his children empowered by the void (your brother). It didn't work
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>>720564017
just beat the final boss, that was really easy compared to most other bosses
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>>720566772
>the most telegraphed boss in the history of videogames.
ENTER
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>>720566663
Meh, Last Judge was worse. Also the runback showers you with rosaries, 96 a run. I ended up farming the same area later on.
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>>720566772
they are no less telegraphed than mantis lords but i guess monkey needs a line to decipher what is about to happen
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>>720566787
You can get an ending with the curse.
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>>720566594
Well, at least something, for me she just disappeared completely in Act 3.
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>get silkspeed anklets
>never take them off for the rest of the game
>get longclaw
>never take it off for the rest of the game

tool balance is fuck
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>>720566783
funny joke. i got a funnier joke. im on gamepass
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post em
https://tiermaker.com/create/hollow-knight-silksong-all-bosses-18401192
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Crazy how they forgot to have ANY kind of build up or background in act 3 for all these fights and it's just sad music playing over some random shit you know nothing about
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>>720566685
please tell me there is a fast travel worm in this area...
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>>720564489
Halfway home. Three guys to the right screen die in seconds.
Longpin, flintstone, drill.
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>>720566420
how is that supposed to help you with the last judge anyway? sitting in one of the benches in the inside? I didn't do it but I think you skip him if you come from the inside through the alternate path.
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I just realized. Maybe all the people complaining about -having- to farm for rosaries, maybe never had the rosary magnet equipped? That's stupid though.
But even without it, I can't imagine how you wouldn't have many, many times more rosaries than needed by the end of the game.

You really don't need to buy everything immediately. So why do people act like you need to farm?
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Fractured Mask or Reserve Bind? Which is better in the long run?
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>>720566883
It wasn't even intentional. But I'm serious. It was one of the fixes in the steam beta (now live).
If gamepass doesn't have it, you're outta luck.
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>>720566910
>need 1 slot to see myself in the map
>need 1 slot to avoid mising 80% of the rosaries I find
JUST
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>>720566902
Yes, top left
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>>720566708
well... what do you think? go back to the bell.
when you came back from the void you did go back to your scuba buddy to tell him you were alright, right?
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>>720565096
>architect (not strictly necessary)
>poison
>bombs
>cogflies
>get through the arena with minimal tool use (fatnigger jumpers, stay on the low platforms and jump up to hit them, then horizontally, then dodge. Tallnigger jumpers, stay on the high platforms and do the same)
>the moment the bossnigger is about to pop out of the water, pull out 4 cogflies
>throw bombs every time he does his zestynigga move
>more cogflies when they run out
>3rd tool if you have architect can be spike trap, as it's real strong and this boss doesn't move that much
This set up will kill him in under a minute. Only real danger is his hollow knight refrence attack, which he will start doing immediately a the poison cogflies will nuke his health into phase 2 before he's finished with his nigger screech
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>>720566873
neither of those are even good
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>>720566908
apparently you can get the grapple hook early in act 1 through a convoluted method that isn't hinted at in the game only found by trial and error and if you visit the pinstress there's grapple points near her that you can then use to access a new area (not sure what it's called) that wraps around and ends up providing a bench that has an even shorter runback to drop down right at the threshold of the Grand Gates.
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What do I do with screaming baby? It really starting to annoy me.
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>don't do things perfectly because you didn't read a guide for it
>have to redo the entire level
is mount fay this the worst area next to not-blightownwater?
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>>720566594
what a cutie.
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Beat Cogwork platforming.
Got full mask (forgot to clear Cogwork gauntlet)
Frustration gone, morale restored. Venting worked
Mount Fay awaits me.
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>>720566873
>dont know wtf you're talkin about
>its in bilewater
i still haven't finished sinners road i might just go there for that.
how much longer is the range on needle?
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>>720566961
Fractured mask. They both need to be refilled at the bench but fractured mask prevents death once no matter the damage. Reserve bind just heals once which is like 3-4 masks depending on your loadout
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>>720567043
Dat ass damn
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>>720567094
go ask pavio
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>>720566240
>>720566815
Rare case where someone actually deserves to be spoiled.
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>>720567043
Don't be sad, she accepted her fate. She even tells you when you buy her last item/fix robot.
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>poison blue tool
>flintslate
bro what the fuck. makin cogfly poison too
no wonder why you guys are sayin shit is easy. this game gets broken like that.

all you git gudders out there can go fuck themselves lmao
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>>720567094
Look at its face. Have you seen that face before? Maybe look at where you picked it up. Pay attention to that detail and you can find its intended destination.
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>>720566020
>both entries are not intuitive to the new skill
Exploration is kaizo tier trolling
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>>720567172
Oh, I will go to shaman lady then. Thanks
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Getting the food delivery for the nail level 3 took me a bunch of tries
It wasn't even hard but wanting to go too fast made way to shitty mistakes... and again... and again.
Anyhow got it done.
I think i have finished everything i can with the double jump/grapple outside of the citadel. So back there to start working on the 3 melodies or w/e
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>>720566894
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>>720567094
its hungry :(
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>>720566992
Why do you need to see yourself on the map?
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>>720567091
kek, you're going through a massive ordeal just to reduce the runback a bit. but you're right, I think it could work
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>>720565584
This plus fast heal is ultra kino
I outpaced the first sinner's bind even when starting after her and still hit her out of hers
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>>720567242
This. Architect niggers are speedrunning the game and talking down on Beast and Wanderer chads the whole time.
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>>720566594
Huntress turns into a loli if you don't finish her quest????
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>>720566910
I'm at 95% completion and I'm still missing a few items even though I farmed rosaries.
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>>720567091
Wait you're trying to get the sands of karak bench without double jump even just to beat Last Judge. Anon...
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>>720567346
no, her child kills and eats her
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>>720565083
It's a lot easier with the maggot warding tool.
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Is there any way at all to get hookshot (Clawline) without getting into Act 2? I know that going to the cauldron requires to fight trobbio which im looking for skipping him
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>>720566997
just defeated these two niggas, should I keep going to the left then?
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Wait, I just remembered, what happens to the vendor from the first town? I finished a game but I don't remember seeing it anywhere even though it said something about going ahead and seeing each other again.
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>>720566992
They're yellow slots. What the fuck else are you going to have on there?
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>>720566910
You need to farm for an hour or two if you want to clear all the vendors and buy all the furniture.
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>>720567283
>Last Judge F
k retard
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>>720566663
>run in a straight line
>get close to enemy
>jump and downwards attack
>dash past it
>continue running in a straight line
Are you guys for real?
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>>720566850
I oneshot this fucker after jobbing to his gauntlet for far too long
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>>720567191
She does wonder why her programming refers to a Pharloom Eternal when it is obvious that is impossible without an architect.
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>>720567095
i really liked mt fay
it was a bunch of short platform challenges, on burst
i mean there are like 10 "stops" during the climb
you are presented a platform challenge fail it a couple times learning it and then nail it
I mean i dont know what guide would you need to mt fae
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>Got to THAT part of Bilewater
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lore wise, what exactly are crests?
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>>720567419
the anklets, you slow moving fag
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>>720567095
Mount Fay was straightforward, what are you smoking. I had much more trouble with Sands of Karak.
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>>720567478
Enjoy the suffering
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>>720567283
Zanzibar is too easy (friendly sparing one)
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>>720567453
kill yourself
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>>720566894
Second sentinel, fourth chorus, GMS, and seth would be higher if they were more difficult
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>>720566894
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>>720567407
the worm should be one tier or two above those and to the left
so get out to the right and keep climbing
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So Silksong's main themes are children, lineage and legacy but through feminine, motherhood view, right?
While HK was about parents and history too, it was more neutral or a bit masculine themes of being a monarch and father to life, main character being pale king and all?
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>>720566910
>So why do people act like you need to farm?
Only in act 2 if I kill mobs without dying I have ~300 rosaries. And 0 shards. Always 0 shards. For entire game on average it's like 0-100 shards and few rosaries to buy maps and benches, maybe charm if it's Christmas.
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>>720567095
No. It's my worse imo. Timed platforming is horrible
Get the cling grip helper tool from the citadel merchant lady + flintsteel tool from deep docks locked area. They help.
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>>720567442
>You need to farm for an hour or two if you want to clear all the vendors and buy all the furniture.
Or you don't. And just play the game normally without farming and still end up with a 7000 surplus after including all the rosary necklaces and whatnot. After having already bought all that there is to buy.

If you don't have a surplus of rosaries by the time you hit 100% then you must have lost a ton from dying and failing to reclaim your cocoon. Or else I have no idea what you've been doing.
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>>720566484
>>720566815
Alright thanks.
Oh also: is there some upgrade I can get later that makes it possible to fast travel between the benches than needing to take the stations?
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>>720564497
Hidden passage in the bellway below it
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>>720567513
when you take the shaman crest and talk to the three assholes about it, they talk like you absorbed the collective memory of their culture.
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>fix broken tool
>I can cast the gun now
holly shit
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>>720566232
This is false. A lot of the walls here are not only unintuitive, they are unmarked in any way, and you need to recheck a lot of places with new traversal abilities knowing the secret wall placement is bullshit. The vast majority of matroidvanias are not making the players spam attack every wall and floor because it's simply unfun and silly.
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>>720567398
the what
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>>720567603
I'd describe Hollow Knight's theme as "sacrifice" and Silksong's theme as "heritage".
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>>720567513
Immutable core of your being. I think like the very first conversation with Eva tells you about them.
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>>720567665
>dying and failing to reclaim your cocoon
That's 90% of my gameplay. The mobs here are like from Ninja Gaiden. Plus environmental damage (2 masks before patch)
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>>720567575
>Pinmaster A
bruh
>>720567568
>Seth above GMS
bruh
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>>720567676
Hornet must be really sweaty after running all over the place in a full latex bodysuit, right?
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Im currently vexed by the the "cylinder" rotating in the citadel that opens top/down or left right
Obviously top down for you to progress while left/right seem to allow for some loot plundering
Logic says i need to find a way to activate it while im still inside the cylinder but so far no idea.
No spoils ty, just wanted to vent a bit
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What's up with this ledge? Nuu's telling me there's some hidden boss at the edge of the world and I'm having no luck finding it.
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>>720567665
or maybe we just skipped a lot of the fights because they're tedious and pointless and its way faster and easier to just farm later, fag
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>>720564017
Is there a cutoff point for this ending? Can I do all endings on the same save file?
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>>720567603
yeah, picrel mostly covers it, except there's still some arguing over the extent and purpose of the silk harvesting and weaver capturing, and where in the timeline the weavers left
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>>720567676
Later on you unlock the ability to set the location of a gate you can fast travel to. Obviously this means you can set it right next to a bench or stagway and just fast travel back to it. It does consume dream essence but you get so much it won't matter. Also in addition to stags you unlock trams to travel as well
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>>720567891
Pinmaster is fun. FUN!
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>>720567789
all breakable walls are visibly cracked and most secret openings are either completely unrequired or make it obvious that theres something there.
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>>720566850
Holy shit just fought this guy, how did they put the easiest boss in the game in Act 3
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MORE LIKE WHORENET
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>>720567770
I wish the game had ng+ and you could get all the guns by doing it.
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>>720567513
Eva said crests its a very simple word for such a complicated subject. So i want to imagine the devs are fine leaving them a bit nebulous
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>>720566850
Is this the Krusty Krab?
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>>720567903
Hopefully
>>720567928
Sounds awesome thanks.
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>>720564017
Th skull tyrant attacked bone bottom but the pilgrim wasn't there, anyone knows where the pilgrim went?
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>>720567340
and the amount of tool damage upgrades
wow.
fuck everyone
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>>720565852
Congrats anon
Did you get trolled?
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>>720567913
probably a lore ledge implying it used to be a pathway when that kingdom was in it's prime. theres a secret boss you can find in that area but it's not at that tower
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>>720567907
Just keep playing the game.
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>>720567789
>A lot of the walls here are not only unintuitive
No way you can find Bilewater without a guide
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>>720565797
UUUUUUUUUUOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH IMMORTAL BUG LOLI EROTIC!!!!

damn then that peeping tom of a onsen owner is literally me.
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>>720566894
Can you fight the mole that spews poison from the ceiling?
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>>720564017
I just got this ending, it wasn't that bad, took me 5 tries or so.
Also it's crazy how much cleaner I play when I'm not trying to spam tools like a shitter or heal all the time
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>>720567665
There is not enough money in the game from rosary rewards and enemy drops(assuming you kill each enemy you see once) to buy everything without farming even if you don't lose any rosaries and hit 100%.
Maybe the recent patch that increases relic sell prices helped, but that is too late for me.
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does anything change if you let the bathhouse flea perv on you instead of hitting him?
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>just explore and get stronger!
>aka abuse tools and cheese everything
glad i realized what these anons meant. im sure they left that last part out because they realized how much of fuckin frauds everyone is being.
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>>720568065
yeah you can kill him as early as you meet him
just hide under a canopy and peek out to jump and slash and back to cover
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OHOHOING WITH LACE
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>>720568038
Reasonable theory. I already got the electric area, guess I need to go back to hunting the wastes.
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>>720568080
How was Hornet keeping all those tentacles inside her?
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>>720568171
https://exhentai.org/g/1911059/5d09fcf8b2/
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>>720566240
Smoochuki
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How do I find these fellows. I just want to fight as many bosses as I can before finishing up and moving on with my life
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>>720568107
It's a requirement for the ugly bastard ending involving the flies.
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>>720565919
yeah that walkback was not very fun
>>720568031
why yes i did, beat her the very next attempt
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I woke up the sentinel in act 3, it's a mistake ? Was I supposed to do it in act 2 ? Also witch crest is shit omg
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>>720566240
Kino
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>>720566034
The problem with doing quitouts is that it doesn't completely negate the challenge, as you still have to be smart enough and attentive enough to know when to quit out, but it's very obviously not the "intended" method to play it. Iron man modes are just kinda a silly mechanic in all games for this reason
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Am I missing some upgrade for Bilewater cause I can not for the fucking life of me find where to go. Also the Mist I just keep going into the same areas and I can't figure out shit. Where the fuck am I supposed to go?
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>>720564743
Same way you did in hollow knight. You just keep messing around in the game because you enjoy playing it so much and eventually you unlock something just by being curious. If you're not a curious person these games really aren't for you
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>>720568171
Lots of practice, like 100s of years
She is is Frieren, but bugussy power focused.
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>>720568109
You fighting the 700 hp boss with your 5 damage nail and some unupgraded 10 damage needle traps VS you coming back with a 13 damage needle and 30 damage traps isn't cheese. You finding a tool that allows you to take another hit isn't cheese. You finding another silk skill that helps much more than your previous one isn't cheese.

Stop being a fucking faggot. This shit is in the game for a reason, use it. If you wanna be all prim and proper, just don't use architect with poison and boom: you still have to learn the fights.
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>>720568325
You're supposed to have double jump by now. Go get it.
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>>720568321
Maybe turn around, champ. These areas are for the big dogs.
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When are we getting boss rush. The godseekers will appear again right? Or are they the shadelord's bitches now?
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>>720568325
Double jump
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>>720567603
Now that you mention it, HK was definitely abour dads and their sons and all the fuck ups they do, while SS is about moms and their daughters and all the fuck ups they do. With the goodness obviously still visible in both cases if you get the deeper lore (Pale King truly did love the hollow knight, Silk truly did love Lace).
Only difference is the role the protags have. You can't really claim Knight had any positive examples of fatherhood but Hornet had good examples of motherhood.
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>>720565083
Your loadout is dogshit
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>>720568321
For the mist play your mandolin for the butterflies
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>>720567603
Some good commentary on life extension and becoming an aberrant monster by virtue of it, game in general seems to argue for embodiment over technology and that losing sight of life results in tragedy.
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>>720568227
blue guy is in the wormways, far right you need to wait for the quest to appear in act 3, middle is a secret boss you can find in the sands of karak, far left is a secret boss that you need an invitation to fight (easiest way to get it is to save at the bench at wisp thicket and restart your game over and over until a bird gives you an invitation to fight him). the mass of enemies thing I don't recognize it just looks like those void masses that are everywhere in act 3.
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>>720568215
Non-canon. Herrah was asleep by the time Hornet was older than a toddler. Also anatomy wrong.
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>>720568321
You need the double jump to progress in bilewater. As stated, in the mist play music to the fireflies and follow them
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so is there no bench or verdonia or what?
THAT runback is the real aids if not
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>>720568515
>>720568227
The mass second from the right is the steel soul exclusive boss. Some dude's summoning a void niggerman to kill his steel soul boss and you interrupt the ritual.
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The 2nd act is triggered after you kill the judge and do the next zone?
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Guys I'm bad at this game, how do I beat Throbbio. He's repeatedly kicking my ass and the flashes make it hard to see shit
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>>720566240
Dont listen to those first few (You)s
They are retarded faggots
Your post is entirely ON TOPIC and I will gladly discuss HK with you as you play through it
You're somewhat on the right track, but not entirely right. More of it gets revealed as you keep playing. If you still don't get it by the end, we'll all spoil it and explain it if you ask, but yes there is an infection going around. How do you like the game so far? What's your favorite location and boss you've fought?
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>>720566894
I like how most people tend to at least agree with S tier
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>>720566018
what is happening here
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>>720568376
>by now
I went there before even having the harpoon. Kept going and got into act 2 way too soon
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>>720567603
Damn did my post not go through? Anyway I was saying hollow knight is about dads while silksong is about mothers so the third game will be about kids and who's the one kid who's been left out? The pure knight or ghost like people call him and he was alive in one ending
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>>720567183
You're a nigger
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>>720568330
Huh, Hornet's personality is actually a little similar to Frieren, except Hornet doesn't have elf autism.
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>>720568654
moorwing is a perfectly fine boss and doesn't deserve to be that low
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>>720568361
amazing mental gymnastics
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>>720568080
Wait you can't even heal with the curse?
Do you need cursed ending for 100%?
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In act 3 I like how the void tendrils get all excited when you play the song of your people
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>>720566894
Just got into Act 3 an hour ago so have still some bosses left.
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>>720568215
>2021
Also that was more wholesome than I expected, can't imagine it being the same with the maggot and curse stuff that will eventually be made.
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>>720568783
first time i fought him i was beyond overpowered as he appeared outside the greymoor station
on 2nd playthrough he was in the usual place but i cheesed him which took fucking 6min of constant hitting
too much hp for too awkward arenas and with 0 setup before the boss
even fucking skull tyrant has more soul
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>>720566894
I am currently hard stuck on Lace 3, and I feel like it's just dogshit visibility fucking me over. I can barely even see what's happening in phase 3 and it's taking what I would otherwise consider an S tier boss down quite a bit.
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>>720564185
Wanderers crest, no contest. It has fast dps, the best pogo, and a chance of dealing crit hits.
tools: cracked mask is a must if you are garbage at this game (which you are given your getting filtered by bilewater of all places)
I ran the two tools that one speeds your bind and the other that heals you more, you get 4 masks back pretty fast with each bind, and with wanderers fast swing, you can recharge your bind fast.
If you are an absolute shitter and have 0 shame, then run the robot fly bug weapon with poison charm, just know you did not beat the game with this combo.
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>>720568376
>>720568404
>>720568707
I don't even have the harpoon either. what the fuck?
>HEHE THE MAP FOR THIS PLACE IS LOCKED BEHIND AN ABILITY YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW EXISTS!
>AND YOU DON'T NEED TO USE THE ABILITY TO GET TO THIS PLACE EITHER....
>HAVE FUN LOOKING AROUND FOR AN HOUR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THE MAP! :)
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>>720568793
you can through an npc from Greymoor BUT you should try to kill grandmama while cursed because the ending is missable
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>>720568871
widow wasn't all that cool and fourth chorus is lol lmao
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>>720567923
There's much wrong with this screencap.
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>only thing left is beating Seth's scores in flea games, the last relics and the last courier delivery
I'm so tired. Hunter's Journal all completed, everything else done. The flea games stuff alone is tiring me out. I just have dodge and juggle left and I know juggle is going to be pure fucking ass.
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the big vomiting prick that you encounter on your way to wormways counts towards the bugs of pharloom quest doesnt he
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>>720566894
i like how these tierlists always have non-bosses like the ant dude and the vomit bug but never include voided moss mother
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>>720568109
you understand theres a progression system for the bosses, right faggot? you arent expected to be able to kill grand mother silk straight out of bone bottom
its entirely reasonable for you to come back to boss after you have better items, more hp and more silk
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>>720567891
>>Seth above GMS
I wasn't paying attention to the positioning within the tiers; Lace 3 was my favorite boss in the game
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>>720568871
>that random pink pimple throwing hazards at you is 2 tiers above the first encounter with Lace
sar...
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>>720568817
>excited
I think they're getting upset anon
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>>720569021
For juggle, the shaman crest really helps
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>>720569023
Everything counts towards Bugs of Pharloom. It doesn't matter which you record so long as you get 100 the first time around, then everything the second time.
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>>720568663
Hornet's needle has a hole in it. Lace's nail has a hook in it.
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>>720568793
only an achievement iirc
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YOU
DIDN'T
BEAT
THE
GAME
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>>720564723
What is that middle yellow tool?
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Do NOT trust snails
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>>720568793
You don't need it for 100%
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>>720569036
not a metroidvania
just a simple LE GIT GUD game with hidden difficulty sliders tied to tools
you all are fuckin frauds and your game sucks
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>>720568957
Without harpoon or double jump you can explore the bottom area of Bilewater and find the bell station and leave. They're telling you to go find some more skills and come back later.
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>hermit soul is given by some random npc in bellhart that never did anything and had like 2 dialogue lines and you somehow should remember his existence after 20 hours of meeting him
guide sloppa the game
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>>720568793
You didn't beat the game if you didn't beat the game with the curse.
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>>720569168
>Could have just let Pharloom get fucked forever
They are good guys
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>>720569086
How?
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>>720569104
So the devs planned incest, but had to scrap it due to fear of visa and mastercard?
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7 years my ass. This game has so many absolutely insane design choices there is simply no fucking way it got past testing.

That or they were so fucking sick of making this game they intentionally made it unfun as fuck.
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>>720569197
70 IQ
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Anything I can do with this right now? I thought maybe it's a flintstone upgrade, so I equipped it and returned there, but nothing happened.
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>>720568652
Understood
I am quite enjoying it. Most of my issues were on the lack of speed and they were solved once I got the Dash.
The boss fights feel somewhat weird in the way they are tailored? Not sure if the bosses have too much health or if the Hollow Knight deals too little damage. Even now that I refined the needle once this opinion stays as the Soul Master took a really good beating through its 1st phase. Diverse moveset though, that's good.
Favorite boss so far has been Hornet. I prefer humanoid equal sized bosses cause those tend to have more fun back and forth.
Favorite location is the City of Tears. Probably due to the mix of the aesthetics and having the Megaman X wall jump by then, so the exploration including the walls was more fun.
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>10 hours in
>keep forgetting tools are even a thing
anyone else
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>>720569197
I talked to this npc multiple times. Also the one who hint you for the witch cure.
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FORGIVE ME LOST LACE FOR BEING IN THE AIR FOR MORE THAN .2 SECONDS
FUCK
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>>720569197
>caretaker tells you exactly where he is
>DURR HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW
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>>720569197
You can talk to him a couple times, for instance, when you get cursed. He'll tell you about who to go to.
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>throws bombs
>summons fireworks
>tasmanian devil's into you while you're dodging the explosions
How the fuck am I supposed to fight him?
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>>720569215
... it's more like they incidentally helped with void shittery, they're entirely ok with not helping if that allowed them to void shitty diddly instead.
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>>720569257
...wat
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>>720569168
Why do Snails want to mess with void and soul anyway?
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>>720566894
grandmother silk would be higher if she wasnt such a jobber. Game desperately needs a pantheon dlc that gives her a brutal rematch.
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It's HIS turn next
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>>720569068
I completely shat on Lace the first time I met her, fight wasnt that much fun for me. I like fights with clean patterns and no additional bs thrown in that's why I ranked pimple relatively high, no adds in the fight and everything is clearly telegraphed.
>>720568969
Same for widow and chorus, with chorus I especially liked how kino it looks.
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>>720569252
By default all the needle attacks have extra range
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>>720569328
Be patient
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>>720568515
How do you get to the sands of karak guy? I've been looking for him for a half-hour and losing my marbles
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>>720568958
Yeah I know. But does it count towards 100%?
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this was a good fight
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>>720569350
They like to fuck around and find out
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>>720569282
It's just something that gets you a description of the material at your desk
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>>720568449
I think it can be said that Knight is on a monarch, coming of age prince journey too. Gaining feelings, and attachments to inhabitants while helping them with their everyday problems. Pale King wanted it too, but was too alienated from his subject, too alien compared to generic bug. He didn't really understand them or tried. While knight starts empty, by the end, through very valiant heroic manly actions, become a worthy kingdom successor, at least in idea.
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>>720569168
Snailniggers should all be killed
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>>720569401
he's in this little room
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>>720569435
At my what?
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POST YFW YOU GOT THE WHITEWARD QUEST

YOU KNOW THE ONE
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>all these lists with 7+ tiers
It really isn't that complicated
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>>720569197
OI
OI
OIIIIIIIII
retard
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>>720569363
Agree, the silk fight looked good and was very fair but also incredibly easy.
A radiant silk or something would be cool for a DLC.
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>>720569413
3rd phase is random bullshit at blistering speeds
becomes a challenge whether I can spam enough tools till she kills me
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>>720569257
>planned
it's still there but subtle like the rest of the fetish content in the game
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>>720566240
just keep playing, you will get it later, youre on the right track to understanding whats going on
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>>720565083
giwtwm
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>>720569328
read the script and play your role, dummy
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Yup gonna need about 30 more patches before this trash is playable. They're just trying to beat around the bush and Nerf tiny insignificant things instead of the entire game like they should be doing
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>>720569454
Found that literally right as you replied. Thanks.
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>>720569490
I can understand the frustration but Lost Lace isn't dogshit
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Did I beat the game?
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>>720569483
I thought for sure that he was dead thankfully the game decided to show mercy
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>>720569286
Glad you're enjoying it
I, too, am a city of tearsfag
You do start off pretty weak, but the upgrades you'll get along the way should make you feel stronger as the game goes on. Keep having fun anon!
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SHE CLIPPED ME INTO THE FUCKING WALL
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just defeated widow, AMA
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>>720569441
dis lil nigga
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The Fleatopia mini games needed for the final pale oil are the final thing to filter me. I've one-shot so many bosses that /v/ insists were cancer, but this fucking flea-juggling nonsense has completely murdered my motivation to 100% this fuck up of a sequel. Not even the shaman crest is helping. Fuck you Team Cherry for gating a combat upgrade behind this. Fuck you for degrading your own fucking genre.
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>>720569628
Did you hit her when she was running? I always freaked out and didn't punish
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with 8 hearts and 3x upgraded needle i find then act 3 bosses can just be poked to death and you more damage than they can deal out
wanderer absolutely shreds and with the 4 heart heal + fast heal charms you just go very aggro with attacks, disregarding their attacks and then heal to full
I did trobbio 2, void zanzibart and the coral tower all 1st try just by going ham. feels very cheap
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>>720569628
are you enjoying the game?
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>>720569584
i think it is in relation
>get a good boss
>make it telefrag you
>add boring moves that waste time
>give her cancels that could make the fight more fun and fairly difficult, but instead she only uses some of these cancels to hit you when youre healing with no counterplay other than knowing it in advance
And this is like if instead of the Radiance you just had The Hollow Knight But Harder except nowhere as cool as Pure Vessel
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Is this the most shitty, unfun fight in both games? Holy shit the fuck were those retards thinking?
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>>720569658
flea juggle is the easiest of the 3 you shitter
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>>720564697
I got taken by one in Greymoor although this was in Act 2. If you want to skip judge then you should just go the Mists anyways.
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>>720569215
They are void cultists and pharloom being fucked over is not void's doing. Its mother silk just hanging onto it from deep below. I believe its actually to save Lace at all cost, if she took hornet with her like she intended i dont think she would care.
The voided strings you see is just voided silk, it reacts to needolin.
The main agenda of snails is to destroy mother silk to strengthen void. Why void cant just annihilate her himself down there is another question.
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>>720569483
Thankfully TC werent that evil
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I rolled credits on this game a couple days ago, and now I find out there is an act 3? Is it worth going back in to do? How long is the it?
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>>720569592
>10 health
>2 tools
you didn't beat the game
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>>720569658
use hunter
stand on the ground, NEVER FUCKING JUMP IT'S A TRAP
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>>720569483
I went there IMMEDIATELY
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>>720568593
>>720568456
Thanks. I don't have double jupm so I guess I'm stuck for Bilewater but kinda wished I explored more of the Mist to figure that out naturally cause I was mainly focused on Bilewater. Beat Phantom. Really cool boss.
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>>720569286
Stuff stops feeling as tanky after your second nail upgrade. If you explored the fungal caverns west of the city a bit you'd find a vendor with a charm that increases damage by a LOT, if you're confident in your skills that thing really makes a difference. Also, if you get the 3 objectives on the map, don't go to them first, try getting under the city instead for the double jump, then to the east for a key, then under the city again for a better dash, that unlocks basically all the movement stuff you need to not go insane with having to mark yet another spot for X.
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>>720569713
Nigga how is flea dodge harder than flea juggle
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>>720569658
theres no way you can't beat the flea games with shaman crest if the bosses weren't an issue
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>>720569481
Your desk. Look to your right.
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>>720569620
Hot
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>>720569708
This was the only boss in the game that really stonewalled me
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>>720564136
Do the crestlets who play anything else even try?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBHS7br4ByM
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>>720569483
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Is there any sort of way to get harpoon without entering act 2?
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>>720569803
flea dodge happens to be the hardest and the most RNG affected
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>>720569620
it'd be funny if this pose will become more known with younger people for Elden Ring than Jesus lol
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>>720568515
Is the wisp thicket bird act 2 only?
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Now that was a clutch, good thinking with the cogflies lmao. She counters fucking everything in this rematch. Fun fight though, better than the First Shitter.

Sucks that Lace is not real though, I was kinda shipping her with Hornet.
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>>720568614
I'm still hesitating because of that, i'm looking at the genie map and apparently it could be another no bench cancer.
>>720568245<
I want to know
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>>720569741
Yes, it's 10-15 hours of content.
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>>720569727
They explain that Silk is continuously using her power to create a safe cocoon for Lace and herself. A desperate measure that will fail eventually but Pharloom will be wrecked before she falls
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>>720564017
>BREED BREED BREED I NEED TO BREEED
>BRING 6 PURPLE DICKS I NEED TO BREED
why are plants in these games like this
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>>720569708
nyleth is worse
groal is only bad because of the runback outside of that his actual fight isn't all that bad
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>>720569741
gottem
nah, you deserve never playing act3
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>>720569847
I think you can enter underworks through the wisp thicket, but I'm not sure if that lets you reach the cauldron.
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>>720569747
>barbed wire
>no poison
>honest tools (lifeblood iffy though)
Verdict: he beat the game. But not as much as someone with reaper or hunter would have.
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Just beat the game and all I can say is THAT'S MY FUCKING GOAT, THAT'S THE FUCKING GOAT RIGHT THERE
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>>720569878
act 3 only, and you can get the invitation at any bench near greymoor I have just personally seen the most success at wisp thicket
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Whiteward boss is so shit it's unreal
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>>720569937
i will never unsee it now fuck you
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>>720569847
Maybe? You can brute-force your way through the Mist and enter the underworks that way, but I'm not sure if you can get to the correct tunnels to access the harpoon area.
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>>720569328
use wanderer
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>>720569937
>white lady bound herself and locked herself away from the world because she literally couldn't resist her urge to fuck otherwise
plant girls are just crazy bitches in hollow knight man
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just two girls enjoying a bath
hope nothing bad happens to sherma
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Okay so who are the snail shamans and what's their endgame? They're pulling the strings from the beginning of Hollow Knight by giving you your first spell
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>>720569441
Also makes sense.
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>>720569937
Why Team Cherry have so much sexual energy?
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>>720569995
Tacks and Cogflies, Anon.
Tacks and Cogflies.
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>>720569974
That is Hunter
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>>720569328
Use reaper
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>>720569995
i feel like the only way to fight this trash is double heal, faster heal and just smack the living shit out of him by tanking every charge
every time i overthink this bullshit i just die
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>>720569878
Act 3
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>>720570034
>sherma
>a girl
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>>720570034
sherma is a boy anon
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>>720569995
You basically just have to pogo on his head over and over again until you get openings for a single hit. Or use tools like traps/flies.
But yes its one of the many vile ass designs in hte game
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>red memory makes me use the shitty diagonal pogo again
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>>720569741
You need to complete every side quest in the game including all UberEats deliveries to unlock act 3.
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>>720570031
Anyone who has allergies from pollen can tell you about how much plants love to SEX
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>>720570062
Doomshitposter making the memes reality.
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>>720566894
Ranked by difficulty.
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>>720570093
I think Beast is good to ragetank this shit.
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>when the boss or enemy has pogo protection

AAIIIIEEEEEEE
WHY DO THEY DO THIS LET ME POGO
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>>720568215
>thorax
People still get that part wrong?
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Is there anything I can miss or lock myself out of by activating act 3? I can't find a fucking automaton which I gave a heart to.
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>>720570062
they're just shamans who hated silk for what she did, they were willing to use void to kill her but didn't expect her to try and hang on to save lace which ruined the kingdom even more. they're pretty inoffensive in hollow knight since theres only 1 still alive and hes too much of a hermit to realize the other snails are dead.
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>>720570145
You don't need to complete the repeatable deliveries
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>>720570207
Get fucked pogofag
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>>720569995
>2 attacks
>6 phases
>hitbox so huge it fills half of the screen
yeah it sucks
I used Architect and just nuked it. Yes, I didn't beat the game.
Also, you can just spawn camp the boss and jump on the wall behind him and stay there with ascendant's grip, this way his projectile attack will never hit you.
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>>720570089
Fuck I'm stupid, I mistook the triple silk skill for the shotgun pins
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>>720569981
lil bro clutch MVP
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>>720569981
I literally basedpointed
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>>720569946
reaper + longclaw + judicious use of clawline makes nyleth very easy
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>>720569995
7 years
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>>720570191
might be the play too but i just dont like it
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>>720569703
I'm like 9 hours in and I don't remember HK taking this long to open and become more interesting to play.
Feels like I'm still on a long ass tutorial
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>>720570302
>reaper
YDBTG
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>>720570187
i first tried tormented trobbio
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>>720570240
Quite a bit, but regarding the automaton you're fine.
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>>720570145
>>720570258
Do I need to do the gourmand quest? I tried the delivery of the meat for that quest, but never finished it
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>>720570207
>pogo protection
>default slash protection
>only way to damage the boss is by damaging them while their attack animation plays
God, Carmelita and Seth were such shitty bosses.
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>>720570118
He won't be a boy for long. He'll be a man before the next DLC drops.
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You have ten seconds to bame the most NIGGERAIDS enemy in the entire game.

Go.
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I struggled on nyleth because i didnt know until 80 hours into the game that u can heal in the air so i did her with 0 heals.
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>>720569971
from the way im looking at the map, the hidden wall and ceiling from greymoor to wisp is blocked regardless any effort i tried.
>>720570013
yeah i know of judge skip through the mist to get into citadel but entering that place will trigger act 2 already
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>>720569946
Nyleth I beat first try almost by accident, what are you smoking
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>>720570360
Reaper sucks fucking ass so in fact, he did beat the game
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>>720570401
he became a man in the citadel spa
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>>720570427
Primal Aspid's crackhead cousin.
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>>720569995
Just jump/dash over him when he dashes and get a hit in when he stops at the wall.
Try to stay close to his spawn and jump over him onto the wall when he throws the balls at you.
If he's not spawning completely right or left but more towards the middle he will summon two spears that will come down in the middle again.
This is another window where you can hit him safely.
If you can try to burst down any adds he summons in the intermissions with spells/tools.
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>>720570381
>karmelita just turns her ass to you to tank the hit
pure sex
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>>720569932
>>720569727
Her love for lace was her only redeeming quality. Shame lace never felt that
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>>720570401
Really living up to your nickname, Hornet
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>>720570427
The big things in Putrified Ducts? I honestly don't know what's the strat, I just throw tacks and run away.
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>>720570381
Is Seth a kickstarter boss or something? That's the only excuse I can see for his trash attack patterns and being named SETH
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>>720570427
those tiny guys who drop down and spam quick slashes
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>>720570381
The final final boss does this same shit
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>>720569340
THat´s the mind of a mentally ill individual, just ignore it.
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>>720570427
crows for randomly falling on you mid flight
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>>720570559
Seth was the character designed by a make-a-wish kid who died from cancer during the development of Silksong.
>>720570573
They absolutely do not.
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>>720570559
it's a make a wish kid that died of cancer
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>>720570524
is her love for lace was that big she would never search for other weaver-likes
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>>720570559
Yes. He's cancer because the backer had cancer. He's also ded now without ever having played Silksong. This is his fuck you from beyond the grave.
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>>720570559
Carmelita, Seth, Trobbio, and to a certain extent Crust King Khan were all kickstarter backers or prominent HK content creators
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SPOILERS

Is there more Lace in act 3? Kind of a waste if she dies here. Also, I feel like Hornet is referencing the ghost with this line, it's pretty vague though.
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>>720570647
>2 based bosses
>2 shitter nigger bosses
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>>720570627
>>720570625
Literal cancer design boss, you can't make that shit up.
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>>720570683
>"spoilers"
>doesn't spoiler the image
baka
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>>720570427
Barnacles piss me off and you can't even kill them for good
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>Pharloom
>far
>away
>loom
>lands
ooooooooooooooooooooh
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>>720570683
Short answer: yes
Long answer: blehuhhhhhh uhhbbmm blehhhh i hate this FIGHT-
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>>720570683
yes, now leave before you get spoiled
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>>720570640
She needed to them to escape the cage the weavers trapped her in. She was never going to replace lace
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Can I still get Cogfly in act 3?
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>>720567948
my theory is that they meant for the whole thing to be without checkpoints and some tester got filtered and complained (i would have done the same)
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>>720570683
Yes, Act 3 is very Lace focused
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>>720570715
True to his nature, I suppose.
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>>720570427
the one specific bell-throwing flying pilgrim in that one specific spot in a vertical section of choral chambers where you have to wall jump, surely people know the one I mean
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>>720570763
Yeah without the stalactite to skip the first four arenas he would've been an endeavor
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Jesus the pre-fight cutscenes are a fucking blight on this game's act 3.
>Bosses finally challenging enough to require a decent number of tries
>every attempt has 45 seconds of time waste while twiddling your thumbs doing fucking nothing
I genuinely preferred the bilewater runback to this
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>>720570647
No wonder every single aspect of Act 3 feels so contrived
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>>720570752
NOTHING is missable except for bestiary entries gained from duels.
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>>720570559
>kid has cancer
>his boss is cancer
>even after you beat it the challenge he gives you is cancer
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>>720570763
I don't even see how, coral tower is so easy you can do it first try.
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>>720570849
Its a bonus section for hardcore fans
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>>720570849
I feel like some big rewrites and map changes happened over the course of development.
It's why I'd argue story and overall world design are the few areas Silksong fails to surpass the original the other is boss themes.
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>>720570647
>Carmelita
Shitty boss, remove the block and she becomes passable.
>Trobbio
Absolutely amazing boss.
>Crust King Khan
It's alright. Decently fun.
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>>720570643
>tc couldn't get the game finished on time for a dying child
Maybe if they weren't sitting on their asses the whole time the kid could have played the game.
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>>720570457
Doujin when?
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Seth's bossfight is fine I dunno what everyone's problem is. Do you keep jumping into the path of the shield? That's a you problem.
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>>720570979
Filtered by not knowing you can slap the projectiles and they lose their hitbox
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My friend has 60 hours and hasn't beat the Cogwork Dancers
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>>720570995
Nah, it's based. Don't let some dying little shit dictate how you make your game or art.
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>>720570849
i really feel like act 3 was originally supposed to just be the abyss dive and then they kept adding more shit to it like the macguffin quest, the other hidden bosses, the superjump that unlocks a bunch of shit around the world, red memory, and so on, and the end result is that it's completely fucked narratively.
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Outside of the one you need to do for the oil fuck that one is there any actual reason to do any of the other deliveries?
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>>720571076
based video game enjoying friend
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Lost Lace is just garbage boss like holy shit

>moveset Lace's moveset but sped up
>everything in the area is completely black so Lace and the void niggas can just obscure their movements at times
>the effect when you're low on health makes it even harder to see things
>Lace becomes a complete spurt in phase 3 and 4

Act 3 as a whole is just a massive downgrade from Act 2.
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>>720570553
Conchcutter two shots them.
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>>720571003
yeah I did him third try, the trick to him is the same as with carmelita, just be patient and don't attack when there isn't an opening. I don't know where the seethe is coming from
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>>720571083
I believe some of them are wishes that gate the third act.
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>>720571113
I think you should get glasses.
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>>720571083
They go in your material book at your home so no
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>>720570427
Its not an enemy that kills you instantly but the fact that the bell hitbox persists even after bouncing on the ground should get whoever designed this enemy sanctioned
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>>720571175
it's an enemy that punishes you unless you play simon says and his name is Seth
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Did they remove every single two damage environment hazard? I swear only lava does double damage now.
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>>720571003
he's just shit. bosses where you're not allowed to play aggressively are inherently ass, there is no fun to be had in sitting there twiddling your thumbs waiting for him to do a punishable attack and then punishing it.
he's a simon says tier boss.
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>>720571083
The Queen's Egg delivery makes Styx creates two Silkeaters inside of one.
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>>720571178
I only did the queens egg delivery other than the oil and I still got to Act 3.
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>>720569652
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>>720571076
t. guide tranny
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>>720569708
You're just shit
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>>720571003
I absolutely styled on him using the parry so I don't know what these shitters crying about not being able to be aggressive on him are talking about.
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>>720571276
Those large spinning blades in the vents still do two I believe, Steam maybe
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>>720571260
pretty sure you can get hit after if you deflect it with an attack too
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>>720571076
Everyone who played naturally got it at 52+ so you just outed yourself as a guide/google using fuck.
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>>720570427
Quite a few contenders but my vote goes to
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I NEED CRAFTMETAL AAAAAAAAA
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>>720570427
The flying guys in Sinner's Road that throw the caltrop bola things.
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>>720571276
You want 2 damage environment? Go to Underwork, fucking cancerous stage hazards are all there.
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>>720571076
How many times have you asked direct help from anons itt?
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>>720567135
Longclaw is in the area after Bilewater. You'll get Groal filtered going that way. Go through Memoria instead.
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>>720569658
I don't think any boss took me more than 8 tries, but the flea dodge took me like 2 hours. A good chunk of that was also because for some reason I thought the challenge was to not get hit rather than not touch the ground, so I wasn't trying to recover. The juggle took a few tries, but it at least felt really consistent and failures were just learning the timing on the blue and gold fleas. Timing on the juggles also helped, like when 4 start coming out it helped to delay the first hit and hit the rest early to make them line up together better.
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>>720564489
Grand bellway fast travel has two enemies that spawn to the left that you can constantly kill, run back to the bench repeat.
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>>720571080
I agree, I think they had a bunch of leftover concepts (seth, carmelita, verdania, coral area) that they had already made assets for but didn't know where to put in the game, so they just shoved them in act 3. The first abyss dive, ascent, red memory, everbloom dive (Last Dive is a great track) and lace 3 are all really cool, still.
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>>720570020
Thanks
I switched to Wanderer and now I beat him first try lol. I wasn't even getting to the last phase before. I guess the crest really makes the difference.
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>>720571438
Actually yeah, where are all the craftmetals? I can't even remember where I got my 3 craftmetals.
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>>720571454
You can just kill them by attacking the bola though
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i cant believe how well thought out of the devs when the blocked out any possibilities to get clawline while maintaining in act 1
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>>720570738
Are you trying to piss me off, making a post like that?
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>>720571426
FUCK THE MUSQUITOES AUUUUGGHHHH
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>>720571426
How can The Abyss have these fucked-up hyper aggressive tryptophobia demons and then also the totally passive crawlids?
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>>720571325
>>720571419
Didn't need to but I won't pretend that I didn't learn a lot of shit from these threads that I wouldn't have known otherwise

>>720571481
3-4, the Tacks and Whiteward boss are the biggest I remember but people say and post stuff and you remember it for later, I was at 90% and 34 hours when I ended the first time
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>>720571426
The gren shrub guys..

FUCK THEM. Bell thrower and the spitter are a close second, but at least they dont fucking run and hide when you get close. So frustrating.
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If the Godhome ending is supposed to be canon does that mean Hornet killed an uninfected Hollow Knight for the fuck of it
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>>720571513
>that they had already made assets for but didn't know where to put in the game, so they just shoved them in act 3.
Reminder the trailer shows at least one whole zone they made assets for but didn't get in the final game.
So they're definitely willing to throw work in the trash if they couldn't make it fit.
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>>720571281
>>720571274
the seething, aggressive, impatient wanderoid cannot comprehend the methods of the wise, reserved, and studious reaperking
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>>720571076
i dunno what people are on about
i'm at 99% right now, 42 hours in, and the only thing i looked up so far was where to get tacks since it was the last charm i needed
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>>720571746
We only see a second of their "confrontation" - for all we know, they had a nice chat and went their separate ways.
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>>720571623
the crawlids are really just a reference to HKs abyss, it also has the exact same ambient at the start
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>>720570095
>>720570118
>they actually fell for the meme
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>>720571746
>Hornet killed an uninfected Hollow Knight for the fuck of it
There's no way she killed him. He's probably off exploring or at least managing what's left of the kingdom.
Wouldn't surprise me if he chose to exile himself from his heritage entirely.
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>>720571790
i beat him by spamming pogo with reaper since he can barely do anything if you do that and if he does hit you you have more than enough silk to heal it off
shit tier boss desu
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>>720571746
They never fought, hornet just looked ready to fight because she really had no idea what is happening
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>>720571859
How do you even get this scene?
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>>720571884
After killing the Radiance, what would motivate the knight to do anything at all? Like what do you do when your purpose has been fulfilled?
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>>720571859
SHERMA NO
GET AWAY FROM HER
DON'T LET HER TOUCH YOU SHERMA
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>>720565083
>just fucking standing in the path of every slash from just the first two minions
>not even attempting to wait out their attack and then punish them during their telegraphed downtime

>boss fight actually starts
>he starts actually dodging and timing his attacks

it forced you to actually play the game instead of just turning your brain off and mashing one button and holding down the "move towards boss" key and thats why you hated it huh.
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>>720571952
just have to get to the hot springs area in citadel before sherma gets to first shrine
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>>720571952
If you've met Sherma along the path to the citadel he can show up in the hot spring
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How do I get enough to go beyond??
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>>720571984
Wander aimlessly until new purpose has formed.
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>>720571746
Hollow Knight came up to her and said
>jwu, qrd?
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>>720572048
press r1+circle?
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>>720572048
Check the crest menu, it shows you how to use the crest to refill tools
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>>720572019
>>720572043
I did meet him along the way but I've never really found the bath until I've ring the Songclave bell, that's probably why.
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>>720571817
Did you play the first one? You learn a lot of their tricks in regards to rooms and secrets and that helps, I will admit I shamelessly used Wanderer so the combat wasn't hard
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goddam, half the damage i take in the karmelita fight is from contact damage
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>>720572106
>>720572130
AUUHAUHUguhuhghuGAUHUHHUUGHUH
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>>720572224
Stop rushing at the fat, supple, jiggling ant queen ass
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Mist wraiths are fucking cancer, I will not be convinced otherwise.
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>>720571746
Not just the godhome ending but the delicate flower godhome ending which just rubs me the wrong way
Its the hardest and most obscure ending in the game and youre telling me the sequel assumes you went through all the trouble to do that?
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>>720567478
This is outrageous. Why is there a guantlet EVERY time?
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>>720572376
>and youre telling me the sequel assumes you went through all the trouble to do that?
Even though TC's "all endings are canon" explanation doesn't really make sense, you can read it as "no matter which ending you got Silksong will make sense and not directly contradict whatever you saw."
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>>720570427
Random enemy? Prolly the bell throwing fuckers that fly. Fuck those guys.
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>>720572185
yeah, i played hollow knight and my fair share of other metroidvanias as well
i probably saved a lot of time by not really backtracking until i had double jump and could traverse the entire world, silksong doesn't have much natural backtracking and i didn't feel the need to go spelunking for mask shards or anything
i enjoy the secret hunting in metroidvanias but i like to do it when i have all the upgrades so i don't have to retrace my steps a bunch of times
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>>720568952
>if you are garbage at this game (which you are given your getting filtered by bilewater of all places)
fuck off faggot you are the worst type of shitter in these fanbases
"hurr durr this zone recognized as absolute AIDS by everyone is actually good because that's how i prove i am elite!!"



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