5 land 10/10!!?!?!wtf were they thinking. it's still OP
>tg
>>720571976
Nigga, current MtG has every color have a removal as staple
looks like a dogshit timmy card, now here's a real card
>>720572446what's your favorite hentai artist?
>>720571976while I fucking hate power creep, removal is so ubiquitous it really isn't an issue>>720572446fucking goofy
if they'd print that now it'd cost only 3 green and have trample and hexproof
>>720571976Neat, dinosaurs>>720572113Damn, straight up powercrept terror.
>>720573075hard to say for sure, nyuu and butachang definitely put out a lot of hentai that I enjoy, tsurugi's first blue archive bestiality anthology was good too, the second was pretty boring, too much tentacle shit, but there's doujins that I like more than those two, but the artists have only put out one or two doujins so it's hard to say "I really like this artist" when they released 1 doujin in their lives
I think the flavor text in the MtG cards is exceedingly cringe and actively keeps me from ever trying the game.
>>720571976>>720573371Think those are bad? check out this bullshit
>>720573947so it just has to be destroyed, death-touched, or exiled instead of attacked, okay?
>>720573947>Spiderman cards>Black aragorn cardsYea I'm glad I quit years ago. Came back for a bit after scars of mirrodin because mirrodin was one of my favourite sets. Saw shit like the eldrazi and planeswalkers and slowly noped out again
>>720573947I havent played Magic in years but realistically how green can deal with that?
>>720572113feels like a waste on a plain card that doesn' even have trample
>>720574630deathtouch
>>720574630>1/1 deathtouch>60/60 trample go face>be gruul and have Fling>maybe fight effects, not shure on that one
>>720574630It isn't. Creatures like this are supposed to be hard-walled by Black and Blue, who have ways to deal with it and the creature it spawns without breaking the bank. It's bad, against those decks, therefore it's okay that it exists. Greencastle can rest in peace knowing that even if they lose to it and there's nothing they can do, it'll lose to someone else later in the tournament / ladder session. That's how WotC handles "balance".
>>720575047Deathtouch needs to do damage. Venom prevents damage.
Eating 3 bagels makes up for being bitten by a dinosaur
>>720572113>>720573371Goat for a throat is an old as fuck card thoughever
>>720575141I'm pretty shure deathtouch always goes around damage prevention.
THIS is a real man's card
>>720573947Is that a god damn spiderman set?
>>720575610It doesn't unless the rules changed, deathtouch makes any damage above 0 to be lethal. If that damage is prevented deathtouch doesn't work
>>720575805Ye
>>720575835Always thought its>deals 1 damage>-1 hp>damage prevented>+1hp
>>720571976outta the way, zoomies
>>720576045correct
>>720575891>suspected creature has menaceThe only good thing that came out of the set.
>>720575891>>720575651I chuckled
I keep seeing MTG posted more and more on /v/ and it’s just making me realize the hobby is getting flooded by Pokémon kids and scalpers and magic is just gonna continue to get exponentially worse to cater to these people.
>>720575891ok, maybe there's SOME redeeming factors to the Spidershit set
>>720576037That's just healing back the damage you took, nothing was prevented in your example
>>720575610Deathtouch requires damage to be dealt, it's not like the Basilisk or Cockatrice wording of just requiring being blocked.
>>720576309Magic is a fucking joke and yugioh is a an absolute shitshow at the moment. The TCG scene is a mess.
>>720576516The TCG was in a very nice place up until they nuked the funnest deck in a balanced format yesterday
>>720576037that is actually a very specific interaction, some things do remove damage instead of prevent damage which would cause them to die of deathtouch
>>720576309>>720576516>>720576576mtg is kept on life support by edh and ub tourists and yugioh is in a death spiral. it's so over
>>720576779EDH and UB are the reasons why MTG is on life support. Remove casual cancer and let the competition flow
>>720573371>powercrept terrorIt has no non-regeneration clause, so it's just a sidegrade (it does help that regeneration is a rare mechanic in the past decade).
>>720575408It's not even 30 years old, you zygote. Go take a nap you have school forever
>>720576516atleast mtg has kept powercreep under control. yugioh? they just went ballistic
>>720576309>>720576779Cube is the future.Just proxy whatever you want to play with and sleeve up with some bros. There really isn't a better way to enjoy mtg.
>>720576913>regeneration is a rare mechanicRegenerate has been killed in favour of temporary indestructible because there's no clean rules way to do Regeneration.
>>720573371>Talking about powercreep and posting an obliteratorREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>720571976>>720573371>>720573947I love cards with a fuckton of pips.Give people an actual reason to play mono-color.
>>720576779The thing that gets me about yugioh is that Konami could fix it any time they wanted. But they seem to be utterly convinced extreme power creep is the only viable option for growth.
That's a nice artifact, anon...
>>720577083Yea I wanted to post one of the worst powercreep offenders I encountered. It was that or Jace
>>720577223>Give people an actual reason to play mono-color.Best I can do is ban blood moon.
Riddle me this. What happens if the exact same card got upgraded over time but I only have the old one in tournament - do we pretend I have the updated one or am I fucked?
>>720576779Play old formats, I've never really seen a scene for mtg equivalent to GOAT for Yugioh or ex era for Pokemon but I'm sure there are people playing old block formats that aren't the abomination it's been for the past decade or so. It's worth looking into the ptcg if you've never checked it out, they had a well balanced meta about a year ago but I think it's been on the downswing lately, I'd highly recommend looking into playing some ex era or if you like resource grind games some base-fossil sometime
>Attempt to play Commander with a precon that I've been told is decent>Other players say they'll use "low power">Game is just an hour of everyone arguing who I should swing a 2/3 flyer at until like turn 4 when someone does essentially infinite damage from nothingNo idea why people play this format
>>720576779I still hope they kill the extended time on standard and go back to normal rotation and kill universes beyond except for the edhtards so I can return to a standard where every single card isn't an omega level must-counterspell-because-if-it-resolves-and-you-remove-it-your-opponent-gets-infinite-card-advantage threat. I like my low powered retard slapfight Magic and basically the only way I get that on Arena is by playing the precon deck duels
>>720577275*Steps on artifact**OwO what's this?*
>>720573368kek
>>720576576Nah, Yugioh has been irredeemably bad ever since Pends/Links made it combospam. The only fun to be had is playing old formats.
>>720577362Card text doesn't exist; it's all what's in Oracle. It's why Animate Dead from Beta reads nothing like the current one.
4 mana 7/7
What is the most broken tournament legal card?
>>720577545>ruins IX and Standard
>>720577545
>>720577275why does she look like she fucks human men
>>720577664Smashed your onahole so you gotta give her attention
>>720577664Count yourself lucky it only broke your kitesail. Get that close to the nest again and it'll be your pelvis.-Huatli
>>720577362Dunno how MTG handles errataed cards but in Yugioh you can play the old versions but need to his the card currently works Would recommend just having the current card open on your phone so you can show people
>>720577336When I first learned about mtg I thought the trade off was so cool, run one color for consistency at the cost of selection, or run some degree of multicolor for selection at the cost of consistency.Too bad the average player doesn't want a trade off, they want a 5c deck that ramps, fixes, and draws cards for breathing and gets to use every shiny expensive card under the sun.
>>720577603>>720577646Explain to me why he is broken like I'm disabled toddler.
Okay is there any decent online MTG sim? I've been thinking about building a pure white knight deck. Is that even possible?
>>720577545Vintage tournaments still let you play one(1) Black Lotus and Ancestral Recall
>>720577776oh no, better not go to that forestpoint it out so I know where not to go, hahaa..
>>720577374I don't understand the appeal of free-for-alls, it's basically just a politics simulator where you have to try to pretend to be weak until you can pull off some degenerate combo to win. With 1v1 or team vs. team it's at least somewhat skill based since you don't have to worry about being arbitrarily gangbanged by multiple players.
>>720574630>>720575071This has been a decent response in modern. Just slap that on then eat them
>>720577883Magic duels was good. But it's completely dead now.
>>720571976Dies to removal
>>720575610No because if it did then that would make Invulnerable even more dogshit than it already is
>>720577875You put him in the pot and then all your creatures give you lots free stuff.
>>720577460JUSH format is almost entirely low to the ground combos making tricky but not impossible to navigate board statesOnly outlier is Momento being combo slop but that's on the fringe of playability
>>720578218Would that include +1/1 ant tokens for example?
>>720578334yes
>>720578334Yes, if you have a 0/0 ant token with a +1/+1 token on it and a cauldron in play and Vivi in the pot then you can get mana from it just like it was Vivi
>>720577275>that faceboner why
I don't care that she's been basically powercrept to hell and back, her and Sigarda are my two favorite creature cards of all time
>>720578593she's enchanted to meet you
>>720577381>so I can return to a standard where every single card isn't an omega level must-counterspell-because-if-it-resolves-and-you-remove-it-your-opponent-gets-infinite-card-advantage threat.god i hate that. some 2 or 3 mana card that if not removed in one turn means GG. but of course cards needed to be insta-usable in the first place because removal is so goddamn cheap.
>>720571976>Dies to removal
>>720577883Knight deck in general would have to be some larger format since there's fuck all support for the knight tribe in standard currently, and in a larger format knights will probably get their shit pushed in by most stuff though it's possible. You'd mainly want to have access to the first Eldraine set too since it had some good knight shit, but then there are other outliers like you'd almost certainly want History of Benalia and that was in Dominaria
>>720576871
>>720575071the real answer is that if you're playing a pure damage based red/green deck and haven't basically won already by the time your opponent can cast a spell that costs WWWWW you deserve to loseAnd people really overvalue effects like like and on Obliterator, they don't actually do anything unless you let them. You can just not block it and not attack when its untapped and all it does(as a body, it also has a stapled on reanimate effect for some reason) is 5 damage a turn and be hard to remove or attack into, but it doesn't even actually stop you from attacking. If they're at 5 life and you have 2 five power creatures, they still lose even if they get a 10/10 out of it.
why is modern magic so retardedeverything is overpowered and every colour does everythingI guess the steam version is also like this? is it even worth it?
>>720571976>Gets chump blocked by tokens
>>720573947>cums into play is too confusing people don't know where play is>enters is fine though everyone knows what it meansglad I haven't played this game in 17 years
>>720579210>is it even worth it?That's entirely up to you. I still have fun with it even if I bitch about it constantly because it WAS better and COULD BE better again, but even as-is I still feel like Magic shits over all other CCGs
>>720574417Being blocked is damage too
>>720579340is it pay2win? can I play as f2p?
I miss Netrunner.
>>720571976No defensive ability, all that power and no trample or evasion, it's just a tap: destroy the weakest untapped creature an opponent controls unless they've got deathtouch.
I don't have all day
>>720579210I was spoiled on Master Duel being a functional client that just fucking works by the time I tried ArenaWithin three online games I had the game soft lock while asking me to resolve a card, forcing me to take a loas
mtg power creep is exactly at the level i wanted atleast you dont have cards with 99.97% usage and 80% winrate if summoned t.ex ygobab refugee
>>720579210to spending 6x amount of money to create 6 different decks one per color + one colorless so you can counter meta decks sound sooo much better
Which you consider it has the best layout? not necessarily has to be a TCG you play/used to play. I feel like most american released TCG had the flaws of being saturated except for Magic which it was strict to it's balanced distribution of art and text
Awww what's the matter got no removal?
>>720579397>pay2winIt's a CCG so there's always a degree of that. Currently there are more competitive cheap decks in some of the eternal formats on MTGA rather than standard, because most competitive standard decks are like 40 rares 15 mythics 5 commons (If you aren't being greedy and have some basic lands) but there are some really playable mono red burn and aggro decks and shit in the eternal formats because you have access to higher quality commons and uncommons. Outside of general CCG "My opponent's got all the rare cards" shit though, it's not pay2win>f2pI'm like 99% f2p but I started playing it in closed beta so I've got years of gradual accumulation built up. There are some more newbie friendly modes (There's a premade starter deck queue where it's exclusively THOSE DECKS VS THOSE DECKS so everyone's on an even playing field) for you to do quests and play as you slowly build up cards, you'd want to be able to focus on what you're building toward since starting f2p right now would take you a while before you've got a big card pool to just fuck around with
I'm glad I got into Yugioh instead of MtG. Imagine being a newcomer and trying to make heads or tails of that completely unintuitive card effect wording that barely reads like English.
>>720577883His time is now. NOW!I've heard a lot of people say Tabletop Simulator with a good MTG table is the best, I'd believe it since, you know, its tabletop. You can load in whatever the fuck you want
>>720579397>>720579210Reject Constructed. Embrace LimitedGood luck playing Draft and Sealed!
>>720579210Hearthstone forced MTG to be made for ADHD zoomers who need endgame Binding Of Isaac insanity on turn 3. Thoughtful gameplay that is a battle of resources are done and over with, it's just infinite value generation from every card played and if you don't instantly respond you lose.
>>720580014and hearthstone turned itself into ygo solitaire lite
When I was a kid and I started playing in 4th edition my friend would get mad at me if I played this card because he said it was unfair.
>>720579806Anon I'm a Yugioh player too but that's about the most retarded possible argument you could make when comparing the games
>>720574417deathtouch wouldn't affect him he prevents the damage.
>>720574630Bigger creature, or make your damage unpreventable with ol' Questing Beast
>>7205801574th edition, Fallen Empires, Ice Age. VGH, HOME
>>720579512Playing that fucker in the very last second of my turn won me so many games
One day this cunt is gonna get a legendary that power creeps it and I'll be happy.
>>720579331I'm surprised the card isn't truncated further, some cards say "When this creature enters" instead of using the name, and this one leaves out the epithet, though a lot of cards do that nowadays.
>>720579716>>720579806yugioh's flaw is that they don't have enough space for more effects and konami still forces monsters to do more than 1 thing. Effects used to be just a simple quirk that differentiate from normal monsters but nowadays all effect monsters do 3 things at most and konami's way to solve this issue is just telling you, 2 out of 3 can be used just once per turn, ok?
>>720576871uuuuhhhhhhh sir???? you CANNOT play that card!!!! its racist, you cant even look at its image on our database because its so racist!!!! banned everywhere, dont even THINK of using that problematic card!!
>>720579762>tried to run a Commander deck with him a few other cards like him from my collection and pic related as a win con and I ran into the one faggot in the world playing a hyper aggressive infect deck so I ate shit
>>720580337Good ol' breeding pit synergy. Also used it to feed Lord of the Pit.
>>720580454Not using "this card" anymore makes the effect less clear than it should beUsing just the card's name could easily imply that it activates any time any card with that name entersOmitting the ephitat muddies it even further
>>720580419The only thing this card has going for it is being a 5 drop makes it impossible to Fatal Push. I guess if you have a way to infinitely cast historic spells and Urza, Man of Rock you could go crazy.
show me your best rats
What are the Slivers up to nowadays?I had a five color deck back in the day, but haven't kept up with Magic for over a decade now.
>>720580625Fallen empires was such a terrible set lol
>>720580876Not much but they're peddling a sliver pet on Arena for the Spiderman set so maybe they're going to bring them back like they did with the phyrexians. And then presumably they'll completely shit themselves like the phyrexians did and be defeated by MTG Pikachu
>>720580876Back when I played slivers came back around the legion set. No idea if they returned again
>>720573371it's so fucking funny that Zendikar/Scars and Scars/Innistrad were so high-power that this thing saw 0 play
>>720580606It's okay they made up
>>720578989>>720579854Would commander be a good fit? To be clear I have never played a full game of magic.
remember that creature type "Shaman" was offensive and has been erratad to druid
>>720580907Then along came Homelands and said "hold my beer"
>>720571976Unplayable. It'll never be allowed to enter the battlefield, and if it is it just means the opponent has already shut it down entirely and doesn't care if it's there. The only way to make something like that viable would be to slash the cost to three or even two mana, and even then you'll probably only get one attack. If MTG wants to have big-dick creature brawls again, they'll have to start leaning more heavily into cards that can't be countered, and add a keyword for "this card can't be exiled".
>>720576359>Again!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>>720579162>if you're playing a pure damage based red/green deck and haven't basically won already by the time your opponent can cast a spell that costs WWWWW you deserve to losecorrect, thank you anon
>>720580813I know the self replicator sucks. I just want a card that exponentially makes copies of itself. That's why I said why I want a power-crept version.
>>720577307Go for the Throat was from Mirrodin Besieged, the set before your Obliterator.It's 14 years old.
>>720581340*BWOOOOO*
>>720581537This card used to crash Arena.
>>720580330this card is so fucking unbelievably based>w-what do you mean I can't just shit out planeswalkers and get mega value for free???
>>720581569Guess I forgot
>>720571976Welcome to power creep.
>>720581250Sure, there's a few pure white knight commanders
>>720581617Brother, I am well aware of every magic card, that's why my initial card I posted was one that you didn't even know of.
best way to play magic is timeless on arena with mono red prison deck
>>720572446I'm not reading that.
>>>/tg/
>>720579806To be honest Magic cards in a vacuum are very easy to read and gauge powerlevel on they own. YGO a card seems meh but cannot be read as an insolate effect because each effect interacts with another card in the archetype to create a nasty ass chain of rape.
>>720581573Minotaurs are Australian?
>>720580202You know it's bad when a game of JAPANESE (aka a first world highly developed country where the average citizen is somehow complete utter ass at learning and speaking other languages) origin has better if not completely readable English sentences that properly convey a card's effects and capabilities.
>>720582021They call them minties over there, only the 3rd most dangerous wildlife.
ENTER
>>720582120Cute
>>720580202>When
>>720581837WHAT'S WITH ALL THE NIGGERS
>>720581617Cute Swarm
>>720581867I'm almost certainly going to craft it. I think I'm like 5-10 mythic and rares needed for it but I'm still hesitant to make those magus of the moon and strip mine because they're only useful there. But red prison looks too fucking fun
>>720580907I made good use of Armor Thrulls back then.
>>720571976it's in my dino naya deck, get dino'd
>>720582379Woke mindvirus became more prominent
>>720582379wtf why my pepis hard
>>720582091>that properly convey a card's effects and capabilities.Nigga do you know what happens when that card gets sent to the graveyard under almost any circumstance?
>>720575891That's some nice art.
Reminder to always hate on blueniggers
>>720571976Why does magic seem so cool in theory but so lame in practice?
They ruined the whole franchise.Magic wasn't pokemon, and it wasn't Yu-Gi-Oh. It was an actual game people flocked too because it was mechanically great and had its own unique lore without some faggot TV show backing it up.Now they've ruined it. I hope tournaments ban these cash grab collab cards for the sake of the longevity of the game.I never thought I'd have to say this-SPIDERMAN DOES NOT BELONG IN MAGIC THE GATHERING!!!
>>720575143>sesame seed bagel with plain cream cheese and no toppingsNo real New Yorker would ever
>>720573371When I played MTG, I always used this "combined" with Pit Fight or similar spells.Black + green combo is always sexy.
>>720575143of course the jewish "food" item would be overpowered
>>720582890It misses timing unless it's the last card effect in a chain. The woes of being a When virgin as opposed to an If chad
>>720571976>Doesn't have 5 or more rule-bending effectsUseless.
>>720583941Overpowered?
>>720580606It's banned because it's racist, not because it's absurdly overpowered?
>>720583941>he doesn't like the best breakfast known to manNGMI
>>720583941If it was overpowered the abilities wouldn't draw cards, itd just say "draw a card when this artifact dies" or whatever. Even then.
>>720584175yes theres a few mildly insensitive cards that they banned everywhere a while ago
>>720584175>>720584560
>>720584698This is mild but at least I can see the thinking behind banning it. Judging by this and what they've done to Dungeons & Dragons, WotC seems to assume it's core player bases are the most easily triggered people in the world.
For me, it's the Digimon Card Game
>>720584175Yes, Virtue's Ruin is still allowed since it only kills White
>>720571976just play eternal card game instead>campaign>PvE gauntlet mode>multiplayer casual or ranked>draft against AI or other players>monthly draft tournament>incredibly generous f2p model>pinnacle of digital-only CCGs
>>720584791they also banned this one because it showed a black man in chains
>>720584953They just need to ban all their cards, then leftism will finally win the culture wars.
>>720574630>target creature is now a Basic Forest
old mtg cards were beautiful. what a fallen from grace franchise
>>720585873Even more sobering, a lot of art from the early cards were real paintings on canvas, which would be used to make photographic masters for use in printing.
>>720579210>Mixed
>>720580617That card and your experience with it sounds like the shit that would happen in the Yu-Gi-Oh anime
>>720586545really? thats real art now
>>720586952thats just poorfags coping
>>720587232so it's not f2p friendly
>>720571976Here's a thought experiment would this see play if it had trample?
>>720578798She herself Powercrept Akroma.
>>720587350it never was, competitive mtg has always been several hundred to thousand dollar entry cost
>>720587579the dotp games from a decade ago cost $10 and put everyone on an even playing field
>>720587680yeah and nobody played it, people play for the tcg aspect of it as well
>>720574630Sit this in the corner of the field and play bigger creatures.
>>720587680sorry chuddy but cardboard and plastic is premium exclusive hobby right now pay 999$ for your collector boosters and 4200$ for the spess mahreen kill team squad
>>720581867actually its on xmage with whatever deck you want to play in whatever format you want to play for totally free but you zoomers need mobile game tier dailies and progression systems to stay interested in games
Is this the thread?
>>720587927i played it.... :(
>>720588335what if i want to use alchemy cards sweatie :)
>>720576871Singling this card out was strange because this sort of terminology is everywhere in mtg.
>>720588604then you suffer from Stockholm syndrome
>>720573947>truncates ETB>doesn't truncate RFGTTB
>>720579416My nigga. I played so much netrunner and it is a way better game than MTG.
>>720575047>>be gruulravinca was a nice ending for mtg but using the guild names for color pairings is just baffling
How does MTG online work? Can I do a draft with friends and choose whatever sets we want? If not, someone should make an illegal MTG client or something.
>>720587564While true, I really like the Innstrand lore too so Sigarda and Avacyn got bonus points from me
modern mtg be like>I use Gay Marriage to get an extra turn and then cast Gay Orgy to summon bear tokens, then use the gay men tokens to attack >I block with Dr. Strange and Spongebob Squarepants, and my spongebob has a sticker on him to make him stronger
>>720580202card is like 15 years old and they dont use when anymore
>>720574948>prevent that damage
>>720589494Kashtira monsters have when/you can effects
zoomers and whales ruin everything
>>720587350Its not even p2p friendly. MTGO mogs Arena so hard it isnt even funny.
>>720583778Don't worry, there's like 3 more marvel sets coming
>>720584369>hard bread and dull 'flavors' is "the best breakfast"I'll take a plate of scrambled eggs and a glass of milk and some buttered toast over that garbage
>There's 4 or 5 more Marvel sets coming as this one set has an Infinity Stone as a Legendary tier cardYeah, it's genuinely over.
>>720590268>The spiderman set fails to meet expectations>The other stones never get released
>>720590268>post hand
>>720589894>MTGO mogs Arena so hard it isnt even funny.yes but people have to pay 2 play which immediately repels 99% of the current card game players
>>720590268you can blame final fantasy fags for how much they bought the set, before that the lotr set was the only licensed one that did moderately well but ff sold a shit ton. now obviously the execs think licensing popular ips is the way to go, its only going to get worse
>>720589894thats not remotely true, arena is so much more user friendly than mtgo its laughable. plus arena has the hearthstone alchemy cards (which are actually very fun)the only reason to play mtgo is if youre a modernfag, the worst type of person
>>720590890You have to pay like 2.50 a card no matter the value on Arena it is fucking stupid, and you can not trade the cards after. MTGO cards are the closest thing to a digital asset that you actually own that isn't a cryptocurrency. The only argument you can make is that casual faggots have a better time on Arena. Good, keep them there.
>>720590687stay mad Vivi mogs the shit sets that came out before him.
>>720590687>the only ub sets that do well are the fantasy onesReally makes you think.
>>720586545Do they use AI now instead or something?
>>720575143>MTG store across the streeta little too meta
>>720576940it makes me so fucking sad to see the state of yugioh. Thank god I bailed after XZs
>>720574630at the point where a monoW deck has five white pips green is realistically about the point where it attacks with craterhoof for 40.
>>720589398Stickers? You get benefits from defacing your cards now?
>>720591306the spiderman set is rife with ai art
>>720591089you get way more shit for free on arena though. the trading card aspect i will give you is only present on mtgo, but in terms of gameplay itself arena is far more fun
>>720592008after disney fired that lacorna guy for using AI I dont think theyd want to piss off disney by doing the same thing
>>720591590>now
>>720592137I don't want free NWO commons that cost fractions of a penny. I throw that shit away if I open a pack in real life. I don't care about the free aspect at all. I want to be able to buy a deck I want to play. Like in real life. And on MTGO.
>>720592202They fired him for gwtting caught not for using it.
>>720588716It's rayciss becuz it's ethnic cleansin' and sheeeeit
Is there a single card game where creatures are actually just naturally good and not just useless pieces of shit that immediately die to removal unless they have protection?
>>720592680yes, mtg, all the good creatures generate value as soon as they hit the board
>>720592680pokemon?
>>720592970That's the exactly the damn problem, they're not good creatures they're good effects with a creature as a side benefit
>>720592970he said naturally good
>>720588420The last ability of the bus doesnt work. First, the two instances of "exiled, target player. Target player shuffles" can be truncated to "exiled, target player shuffles". Second, the effect described is a replacement effect which is grammatically predicting an undetermined future event with the phrasing "were to". It should be a specific replacement effect using "would", because the ability only happens to intercede the exile is happening, not at any random point predicting the approach of a future exile. Third, because the ability is a replacement effect replacing the game action of the bus being exiled due to an ability, due to timing The Bus' replacement ability will not be able to target, and it would instead need to say "chosen player" which would incidentally bypass player hexproof/shroud. Finally, the effect doesnt work as worded, because regardless of who you choose the card will always be shuffled into its owners library. Cards cannot enter the hand graveyard or library of players other than their owner, and if a game action would require them to enter one of these zones they instead enter the respective zone of their owner. All in all, the functional wording of the last line of the text would be "If The Bus would be exiled, instead its owner shuffles The Bus into their library."Additionally, while this is functional as written, the anti-exile effect only functions from the battlefield, it would need to read "would be exiled from anywhere" if you wanted to prevent it from entering exile from other zones such as being exiled from the grave yard.
>>720593105>>720593084"naturally" as in what? what else could creatures have besides effects that could make them good?
>>720592680
>>720578798she's still a great thing to cheat out in commander.Field wide indestructibility is still a pain to deal with, esp if you have any other protection effects.
>>720593490"Naturally" as in dumb Timmy beatsticks without effects are actually useful
>>720590687in FF fags defense:Have you seen what square enix has been doing the past 2 decades?If there's anything that looks remotely decent that isn't just about dicksucking 7 and 14 they will take it and you cant really blame em.
>See MTG thread>Get reminded I have nothing to do on MTG Arena until January when Lorwyn comes out>Get sad
>>720590687With FF:>Fantasy>Artists and WotC had a gun to the back of their head not to fuck it up
>>720592680if the creatures werent good people wouldnt be running 20 copies of removal. what you are asking is "is there a competitive game where I can present a high quality threat and my opponent has no vector for counterplay" and the answer is no.
>>720593591You can kill people in magic by hitting with creatures
>>720593591why would that be fun? wouldnt it just come down to who could play the most stat-efficient creature?
>>720593854you know what he meant creatures that arent OP to hell and needed to be insta removed or its game over.
MTG is so fucking gay its unreal
The new king of card games is here
>>720593980thats not what he said, you are making a completely different argument. do you want creatures that are 5 mana 10/10s that die to removal, but if you dont remove them you are dead? or do you want shitty creatures that dont need to be removed and the game to be more spell-based? there are arguments for both
>>720571976but where are the feathers
>>720594631no he wants a game where your opponent drops a 4/4 so you play your 5/5 and then your opponent plays his 6/6 and you just mash your creatures into each other until one player gets enough damage through to win. basically like the first few sets of hearthstone but without miracle rogue or freeze mage.
>>720594779only the smaller bird like ones had feathers
>>720594976oh i see yeah that sounds like hella fun and interesting gameplay
>>720592680yu-gi-oh has monsters that are unaffected by every other card in the game and yet no one uses them because they are so easy to get rid off
>>720594976considering everyone here so far has talked about non-standard legal cards anyways, why not just play your kitchen table games exactly like that then? literally nothing is stopping you
>>720583778It's one step better than Sonic. That's the new low. And I actually like Sonic too. this game is fucked beyond repair.
>>720583778you say that, but lets be real nobody actually gave a shit about the lore. really all that mattered was that the card art looked cool. I mean they wrote fucking books about the lore, how many have you read? and like 99% of the playerbase never went deeper than what the cards looked likeI'm not trying to justify the spidershit, but if they stuck to stuff that was visually similar to other mtg stuff it wouldn't have been as bad. nobody really bitched about the lotr shit except for all the nogs they inserted.
>>720574630>how does mono green handle a 3/3 beast tokenTruly, a mystery we shall take to our graves
>>720595218To be fair that probably wouldn't be the case if they didn't print the best piece of removal printed to this very day by complete accidentTowers used to be massive competitive threats that forced people to play shit outs like diamond crab
>>720594976yeah that sounds based actually wa better than nu magic
>>720577374It's a mental disease. Commander is so fucking gay.PLAYAREALBOARDGAME
>>720595952I did. I quit when everyone started playing with Uno's garbage official rules that prevent stacking draw cards and playing multiple cards per turn.
MTG is still based because of draft. Draftlets are missing out.
>>720580157lol
>>720596059You really are just proving how much of a retard you are with every single post.
>>720596059yeah commander is only fun if you play with friends with your own rules
>>720596118Draft in paper is practically dead after the changes to play vs collection boosters, unless there has been an update since then which has changed it. I tried Arena again the other week and they still only have draft modes with cross pod matchmaking. Anyone who didn't play this game before Arena will never know what draft actually is.
I like how every time it's pointed out that a card is overpowered, there's some "umm ACTUALLY this 'destroy' card can destroy it" rebuttal. Oh, 99/99 trample haste first strike for 0 mana? "Hurr durr destroy target creature." Indestructible too? "Hurr durr exile target creature." Yeah okay. That doesn't mean the card's power is scaled correctly relative to everything else. You can't just pretend every creature is a 1/1 because you MIGHT draw the card that doesn't care about power and toughness.
>>720590268To be fair, judging by how long it takes for MTG to complete cycles, this might take 20 years before they have all 5 lolIt sucks and is the worst thing that has ever happened to MTG, but it's still not over as long as I keep getting proper sets. Right now it's 3 proper sets a year. Let's hope the slippery slope doesn't keep getting slippier.
>>720577883Forge.
>>720596284
>>720590687LOTR did not sell "moderately well". It was already a huge success. Yes, FF is even bigger.Spider-Man will likely not be as big a success as either of these and they will still be pumped by all the money rolling out.
>>720593440I'm not going to say you're wrong, at all. However, given the nature of 'The Bus' in its own context, it would never be anything but an 'un set' card and those often make up their own rules and/or ignore established rules.
>>720596292I do miss proper pod drafting. It was the only reason why I ever booted up MTGO instead of MTGA. I wish they'd at least have an event every once in a while with proper pod play or something. Why not?But what I said stands. Drafting is still based and MTG is still based as a result. As for paper, get friends
>>720596353fair, but also the op card wasn't really played in any competitive format, even draft, despite the stats looking op on paper. its hard to cast and removal is generally more efficient than it. tarmogoyf was a legit overpowered beatstick for a long time, and nobody really bitched about it
>>720591428>too metaFor me personally, not meta enough. The Spidey set would be saved if it was entirely built around Peter Parker playing MTG. Technically not silver border but almost like an un-set, the most directly Spider-Man related cards should be things like "Sticky Reside, enchantment, if you would draw one or more cards after your draw step, draw that many plus one" with the card art of Peter Parker groaning that he got webbing on his cards so the theme is "Haha spider spunk sticking cards together so you draw more cards"No need to pay me, WotC, but you do have to destroy the reserve list
which is closest to modern ygo? izzet?
>>720577883Pure white Knights Master Race.Deck: Knight LegionMain: 2 Intangible Virtue2 Gavony Township10 Plains2 Adeline, Resplendent Cathar2 Razorgrass Ambush4 Worthy Knight1 Sol Ring4 Knight Exemplar1 Wrath of God1 Kinsbaile Cavalier1 Anointed Procession1 Moonshaker Cavalry2 Cave of the Frost Dragon1 Three Tree City4 Idyllic Grange1 Cavern of Souls1 Land Tax2 Cathars' Crusade2 Selesnya Sanctuary4 Swords to Plowshares4 Knight of Cliffhaven1 The Circle of Loyalty2 Requisition Raid1 Pearl Medallion4 Student of WarfareSideboard: 2 Armageddon2 Disenchant1 Return to Dust2 History of Benalia2 Razorgrass Ambush2 Westfold Rider2 Wrath of God2 The Circle of Loyalty
>>720596581Residue, even. Pardon me but like all WotC employees I am also under the influence of extraordinary amounts of crack
>>720590136>hard breadChewy, not hard. Softer than toast.
>>720596627what the fuck format is this supposed to be? kitchen table? i would punch in your fucking face if you played a sol ring in a casual game of whatever random decks we could throw together
>>720593782>I can present a high quality threat and my opponent has no vector for counterplayExodia
>>720596206>>720596248Like you didn't do the same with Yugioh when you were nine. Don't lie, anons.
>>720597164When I was 9 playing YGO with my friend we were already discussing the strategic aspects of the game despite (obviously) not being very good. It was obvious to us that one person could play someone elses deck and perform better with it. We knew it wasn't all luck. We knew the rules.
>>720595769even without Kaijus stuff like pic shits on most towers by just running over them in the battle phase, you would think something that's inmune to 99% of effects in the game (the remaining 1% being shit that affects the player like evenly) would be menacing and a must have but nah its just something that's kinda there, also we had incredible broken removal with lava golem/sphre mode Ra since the very beginning, kaijus only came later to shit on the grave of unaffected monsters.
>>720597338
>>720597547 We had lots of fun playing Yu-Gi-Oh. You're outing yourself as a midwit for implying that thinking would be some strenuous, un-fun activity. Card games are strategy games. You think and do math. It is fun. 9 is way too old to not get those concepts.
>>720596602Vintage Doomsday
I miss going to the store on friday to play magic but I refuse to participate with spiderman cards
>>720597645This anon either played with people who were much older than him, or more likely, had no friends. All the kids around that age were playing this game with """Duelist Kingdom""" rules because that's what they saw on TV. No one wanted to sacrifice monsters to play Dark Magician and Blue Eyes.You're trying way too hard to act cool and mature for claiming to have played release Yugioh with the rules at a young age and it's working about as well as facial hair on a manlet
>>720592680Mtg. There are a lot of good creature cards nowadays
>>720598575I'm not sure it was "release" Yu-Gi-Oh, I would have been 9 in 2006. We got into the game by buying tins from big box stores. They had rules booklets inside. I also seem to remember either me or my friend having a video (DVD? VHS?) with voice narration teaching you how to play the game. Maybe it came with a videogame adaptation or hard copy of the anime. You're crazy if you think 4th graders don't know how to sacrifice their monsters to summon blue eyes.
>>720594976That's literally just a midrange equipment deck or the like though
>>720571976Then how do you want him to be? Its fucking giant dinosaur.
>>720597094>he doesn't have a fuck ton of extra sol rings since almost every fucking premade deck has one included nowadays
>>720594976GOD early Hearthstone was actually so fucking fun. Even miracle rogue and freeze mage, as annoying as they were, are way better than the horrendous shit it turned in to. I think it was shortly after the tournament set that I quit playing since I remember that 3/3 copy-dwarf deck being fun and I think that was around then
>>720598807>posts some shitty commander bait that saw 0 play in standard or eternal formatskek!
>>720598835>2006That was like four years after the initial international boom and long after Battle City introduced the rules to the casual masses. No wonder you played with the rules. You started during the GX era.
>current meta is schizo power creepyuck
>>720599348whats the difference between power creep and schizo power creep?
>>720599376players look like this
I started playing arena a few days ago and i'm trying to hoard some money for new sets but i don't want the spiderman one, there are some page to known the release order of the new sets?
>>720599572were geting the MAN OF SPIDER IN-UNIVERSE (TM) set though not spiderman
>>720599942That reminds me never actually looked to see what lands are in that set. We should have more shocklands coming I assume but god knows if WotC printed a WTC shockland with crying Spiderman (And alternate art non-crying, drawn by Sam Raimi) or not
>>720600047>Two new tri-lands including one with FUCKING MAYHEM>A colorless shockland that turns into any basic you want when you play itHuh
>>720600047we got shocklands in the star wars set buddy we got new triomes in man spider set
>"We already got a reprint in [limited print set]"That doesn't count and you know it
>>720581876It's actually totally readable for a yugioh card. It takes 3 monsters to bring out, one being a maliss. You can shuffle an exiled maliss card to exile anything. If this gets exiled you can pay life to bring it back and make it's attack 5000.
>>720598807the digital art of NuTG is uniformly awful
>want to play commander at local game night>afraid it’s just super try hard autists with win as fast as possible decks.
>>720600903You're correct, that's what literally everybody runsEven worse, every now and again you'll run into someone who thinks they're based and epic for running a deck that takes an hour and a half to do something stupid like replace everyone's decks with modern decks
2016
>>720600903Competitive edh decks are very expensive My $150 deck is fine
>>720600903It might be, but it might not be. Impossible to tell without going there.
>>720600903EDHfags will say this is only cEDH; while being infinitely more toxic because they try to sneak their cEDH decks into casual play because they're that insecure and pathetic.
>>720600903just ask for what the bracket they are playing sis
Play the only good version of digital MTG
>>720571976>only playable in mono green>dies to 2-3 mana removal from every color other than red
>>720602018>>dies to 2-3 mana removal from every color other than redthats like 90% of cards
I LOVE ARTIFACT CREATURES, CHARLIE!I LOVE ARTIFACT CREAAAAATURES!
>>720602062not any more, at least fullyany creature that costs more than 2 mana and doesn't have some sort of protection or shit out extra value on etb is dogshit these days
>>720577603Alchemy as well.
>>720596383Multiplayer works now?
>>720593591creatures with haste can attack the same turn you play them or hexproof/ward means they can't be targets you opponents spells/ you opponent has to pay an extra cost to target that creature. These are all pretty common and relatively generic effects
>>720572446It blows my mind yugioh doesn't even have a draft format. Whenever I get sick of standard I just go play another format. Whenever I got sick of yugioh I just quit because you either play legacy or nothing.
>>720602576all yugidogshit playstyle is tied into having archetype.dek so draft wouldnt work
>>720602576hearing about how YGH works in terms of MTG colours makes me understand how bad draft would be in YGH
>>720602016Shandalar MORE LIKE SHITTALAR TRVE MAGIC BELIEVERS PLAY FORGE ADVENTVRE, CHVD
>>720602576yugioh isn't a good card game its just carried by nostalga and sunken cost. going second has around a 30% win rate and even if they banned 200 cards it wouldn't fix the problem
>>720602190For me personally it's the stately bottle gnome. Loved those little fuckers back in the day, almost always played them even when they didn't fit the deck just because I liked them
>>720577875Turns out 0 cost abilities that produce mana are busted, who would have thought. SURELY wizards will learn their lesson this time.
>>720599942yeah "through the omenpaths" is all the same cards as spiderman but with different names. and neither of the sets reference each other to know which digital card is equivalent to which paper card. so that will be fun for trying to get decklists.
>>720588826Dumb rat>turns you into a card
>>720571976I bought the foundations starter kit, it had a full art foil version of this that is completely unusable, it's so horribly bent that not even hydrating + double sleeving can save it
>>720602749vivi is 2/3rd of an engine AND a solid beater. There is probally a dozen things they could have tweaked on him to make his card fair but they had to have a mascot for the FF set
>>720602871my ratto waifu won me a FF draftYes, Freya, not the common furry MTG autist waifu Inkeyes
>>720579512Anti-Forsen card
>>720602576They tried draft but they have so few usable generic cards that by the third set they said "fuck it, every card is considered every attribute and type"and then they fucked it up by putting this in it
>>720603031The FF set is really fun in draft. Wasn't too much of a horrible mess of cards and abilities, flavorful cards and draft archetypes, I was prepared for it to be a mess of shit cards printed for commander but it was one of the better limited sets in a while
>>720602668Yugioh draft could work if they wanted it to. They even had limited time sealed kits you could buy to do sealed, but there's no actual sealed for any sets.Obviously the current way they design sets is incompatible with sealed/draft, but they could just change that if they really wanted. For whatever reason Konami only wants there to be one format.
>>720603031>spoilerWell yeah, sex eyes isn't in FF. We didn't even get a reference to her in nu kamigawa.
>>720603190Yea, FF was such an amazing limited format. The lower power of the set made it an enjoyable experience.
>>720578218that and he doesn't have to tap to produce mana. he gets bigger every spell you play. even without the cauldron he would still be on the level of cori-steel cutter (which was recently banned) in power. with the cauldron he's just ridiculous to the point where every deck needs to pack artifact and graveyard hate to deal with it.
>>720574630There are 14 gorillion cards, every color can do whatever the fuck it wants now, who gives a shit. Games been dead for 15 years
You will proxy the online only versions of the spider man set and be happy
>>720602576they did, but the packs sold poorly so they dropped the idea
>>720603272no sexy women allowed. all sexuality must be gay or of fat, unattractive bipocs
>>720576309...are you fuckin kidding me? MtG died a long time ago, and the corpse is just being puppeteered to make literal fucking final fantasy and spider man cards. Shits basically fortnite in card form
>>720603432Outside of the soul stone most the spiderman cards don't interest me. Fleem is a funny guy at least.
>>720575047>60/60 trample go facedamage is prevented meaning the trample doesn't go through
>>720602668There are fan made cubes out there that are pretty fun to draftOf course requires you to actually have a group to play with and enough cards to make it work
>>720603553Funny you say mtg is now fortnight anon
>>720603642No thats not true you would only need to assign enough damage to kill the creature then assign damage to face. So you would put 5 damage on anti venom then go face for 55. anitvenom wouldn't die but your opponent would
>>720603642EDH player attempts to explain MTG interactions attempt #4564567
>>720583778>mtg loreWill you faggots shut up about this. MTG "lore" was always generic R.A. Salvatore-tier fantasy garbage with zero redeeming qualities besides having characters from your cards in it.
>>720604015people like exploring planes anon
>>720601738In my experience any deck with a combo and/or win condition that includes instants and sorceries as opposed to creatures gets instantly labeled "cEDH." Maybe everyone thinks the "c" is for "c"ombo?
>>720603642Anon, Trample damage is assigned before it is dealt. With the way how assigned damage works, you must assign enough damage to be lethal (in other words equal to the blocking creature's toughness OR if the trample creature has deathtouch, only 1 point of damage is considered lethal) to move to the next target (which in Trample's case is the defending player). This is how trample goes through indestructible. BUT if there is an effect that PREVENTS damage, then there's no damage to assign. Anti-Venom does not PREVENT damage.
>>720604073Considering that MTG multiverse is infinite, the marvel continuity is just one of the planes then.
>>720575610Nothing goes through damage prevention unless states otherwise.
>>720604151EDH players are made up of people who think FNM is a toxic environment for encouraging unhealthy mindsets. Who cares what they think.
sirs...
mono white life gain players hate this when you kick Rite of Replication and gain life better than them
>>720604183>Anti-Venom does not prevent damageDoes not PREVENT being assigned damage.
>>720597135>competitive
>>720597135exodia is an alt win condition not an actual creature you play
I miss him so fucking much.
>>720571976I dont play this but once i saw people editing the card text and it was funny
>>720604570I miss an era of magic where this was a borderline overpowered card.
What was THE best time to play MTG?For fun?For balance?For variety?
>>720604647With anons that make stupid ass cards.
>>7206046471999 and /v/ can't prove me wrong
these card games are asinine drivel. just play chess for fun and imagine that your pawns are orcs or something.
>>720604714>Urza's Saga eraI fucking quit MTG during 1999, that shit was ASSt.bald old fuck
>>720604703If only Richard Garfield made his own dota card game...
>>720575143OMG BRUHH NOSHHH GOTTA GET THISE NOSH CARBA BROO
>>720604618Magic's a weird game
>>720604784It'd be quite an Artifact of our era...
>>720604794this isnt it, what i was referring to is apparently called "sharpie mtg"
>>720602576I dont know man. It really sounds like you should drop fucking card games man.
>>720604784VALVE FOR THE LOVE OF GOOOOOOOOOOOOD
>>720604875>>720604784It was good.
>>720604890They don't make pens small enough to erase yugioh text.
>>720604890THE HELL YOU SAY
>>720587564Nah, Akroma can tell Black and its exile to go fuck itself much better and having haste means she can swing immediately.
reminder that revenge sexism is COOL & GOODt.jewish TV sitcom writer from the 90s
>>720604924Why would I do that? Standard is aids right now but its fine because I have a dozen other formats to play until they ban vivi.
I love Nahiri
>>720579210>everything is overpowered and every colour does everythingblack can only do everything if it pays lifered can only do everything if the card costs 1 mana, if the card costs 4 or more mana then it doesnt do anything. this is a downside, trust me.blue can only do everything because blue struggled so hard for so long with creature removal it used to be so hard please ignore boomerang.dek that didnt exist
hoLy shIT -Jorael, Empress of Beasts
>>720603272>>720603543She got a reprint in Bloomburrow, where the art was careful to hide her curves
MTG peaked on this card. It's literally perfect
>>720587564avacyn is cool but id rather reanimate akroma, akromas memorial is such a blowout if theyre red or black. ofc now we have the FF guy, etali, atraxa and the mh angels so it doesnt really matter
>>720604963I mean I liked it. They just needed to make it F2P friendly and it would have done fine.
>>720605262Wrong pic, anon.
>>720590424I fucking wish.
>>720605262Why did they have to ruin Duskmourne by letting the loser millenial fuckwad on the Design Team have his way with the white slice of the colour pie.
>>720605249She's styled as a Bloomburrow Redwall-esque animalfolk instead of a furry now, anon. That's what Bloomburrow was all about. The other Kamigawa rat got the same treatment.
>>720605249Disgusting
>>7206046472010-2014 Magic was peak.Although to be truthful the best time to play magic is the 2-5 year timespan after when you first started playing.It takes about that long for set design to shift so that what brought you into the game is no longer what the game is about.
>>720605186she's cool but she should not be strong enough to clap sorin like that
>>720605150You sound like you hate that shit
>>720605375Nah, Sorin is a failure. While Nahiri and Ugin were actually building the megacomplex magic rock network to actually trap the Eldrazi he was sitting in a corner and brooding. Bitch was the diversity hire of the Three.
>>720604647Kamigawa block
>>720605086I remember when mythic rare was introduced and mark dogwater promised they wouldn't print super core lands at mythic
>>720605534>the worst draft format of all time followed by such a miserable constructed format it drove people to play video gamesno
>>720605534Kamigawa block was so utterly shit it almost killed the game. Imagine a whole year of dogass mechanics like soulshift and arcane LMAO
>>720605458
>>720579210arena sucks big cock but it is a free draft every week and if you like game design draft is peak ludo. >>720579397its very f2p slow grind friendly since all you have to do is wait to get all the cards but enjoy getting trounced by sweats in unranked for 9 months until then. id reccomend just grinding brawl with the funniest edh deck of laelia in the command zone and some cascade cards with etalis favor, you just play a land off her every turn until they kill you or you die. Ragavan can work the same way even with 99 mountains. you only need 4 rats to have a plague rat deck too so you can craft a rat lord edh deck. so thats a cheap way to grind 4 wins a day till you get a meta deck. but man meta decks in historic are no joke 60 rares which is like 6 months of grinding.
>>720605534WEEB NAUTRALISM LOW FANTASY LOW POWER LEVEL KINO *pays 12 for iname as one*
>>720605348>She's styled as a Bloomburrow Redwall-esque animalfolk instead of a furry now, anonThey ruined her, then
>>720572446>generic removal and resource cyclinggod nu-YGO has the most uninspiring card design ever
>>720605708Doesn't Arena do the bullshit draft where you aren't actually drafting against anyone?
>>720604647RTR-Theros into Khans of Tarkir. Fate reforged and then DTK fucked standard and then the 2 set blocks REALLY fucked it up.
>>720605754The set is the Redwall set. When they do reprints they style them in the new set style. Duh.
>>720605458Sorin created one of the most powerful angels in his spare time, naafiri make some rocks that could be activated on accident
>>720605617the block was shit but it was still a good time for extended and even standard. it had some good cards too like gifts ungiven and divining top and it reprinted stone rain at the right time for one of the funniest standard decks of all time (for me not for the people I was playing against).
>>720603272>We didn't even get a reference to her in nu kamigawa.Did Neon Kamigawa retcon the setting, or was it a time skip kind of deal? If the latter, then she'd be dead.
Consider the following
>>720605924Its the later, but other dead characters got referenced.
>>720605765Umm sir it's blue flavoured extra deck monster so it's justified of being new archetype ok???
Decks not having names anymore killed so much flavour in MTG.Would you rather play MACHINE HEAD or Rakdos midrange
>>720605886>Sorin created one of the most powerful angels in his spare time,and she got corrupted by the Eldrazi immediately lol and couldn't even keep her plane from being a shithole.meanwhile the Zendikar angels endured 3 titans coming at them at once and didn't even complain. just accept your man is bitchmade.
>>720580876way back they had a man sliver set that has some choice cardsmh1 gave some really powerful slivers like the first sliver whos fucking pure cheese on brawl. they just had a sliver precon like last year or something that has a card that turns everything into slivers. [theres actually 3 cards that do this]
>>720604570its a good thing he died back then because if he were alive today he wouldve suffered a worse fate
>>720606059Decks do have names, though. These are just categories for the decks so you know more about them from the get go.Some famous ones are Dragonstorm, Sligh, Stiflenaught, Countertop, Faeries...
>>720606059>Would you rather play MACHINE HEAD or Rakdos midrangeravnica was a mistake
>>720582379domniaria was always full of niggers, look at all the zhalfir knights. basri is egyptian ;]
>>720606165all those decks are older than most posters
>>720605262It's 1/1 i could beat his ass on a fistfight
I play mountain and tap it to cast goblin guide and swing
>>720606059Rakdos Midrange isn't a deck, retard. It's a category of decks. Any deck that uses red and black cards and relies on earlygame disruption and mana acceleration to bridge the gap to larger value plays as their gameplan is "Rakdos Midrange."
>asshole keeps destroying my creatures>play this when he's finally out of ammo>rage quitshahaaaa
>>720584939eternals f2p model is worse than arenas, it just feels better because you get a crap pack a day that you dust for pennies. >but dusting is fasterdusting doesnt get you shit for draft or buying the fucking expansion packs that can't be dusted. also fuck eternal they launched by proudly saying bolt was legal and they fucking nerfed it.
>>720606165those decks are either old or just describe what they do. the good names were funny ones like frog in a blender (what's red and green and goes 500 mph?) or cephalid breakfast.
I don't play the game anymore but I still take notes on the gameArchon of Cruelty decks just slot into everything I want to do but I don't want to become a statistic Wizards will point to and say SEE UNIVERSES BEYOND IS GOOD PLAYERS ARE UP. I miss the game a lot but I don't miss it enough to label myself as a sellout.
>Egyptian kino got shafted and shoved into wacky racers because WOTC had no faith in it to be a stand alone set again
>>720606382Eh. There are funny names like "the rock and his millions" and there are boring names like CounterTop. that's just the way of things. One of the oldest decks of all time is named Rack. Why? Because it wins with the card named "The Rack". that's all.
>>720606086Avacyn was the main being worshiped by humans on that plane. Naafiri lead an eldrazi titan to sorins plane because she was so butt mad, Naafiri is evil at best. Their planes both survived the eldrazi anyway and sorin could remake Avacyn in the future. The humans of innistrad still worship her even in her absence
>>720606414WOTC makes no money from proxies.
>>720606602Every time someone tries to shill me the early days of Magic I remember the days where the main competitive decks were Vise and Rack, the deck that doesn't let you have any mana versus the deck that doesn't let you have any spells. Truly, Magic has been trying to recapture the joy of these child-like early years ever since.
>>720606086avacyn was never corrupted, she was killing people to save the plane because they were the corruption vector.
>>720605832There are 2 kinds of draft.Quick draft: cheaper to play in terms of ingame currency, flatter reward structure, no time limit on draft, can even stop midway through a draft and come back and finish, draft vs bots.Premier draft: more expensive, timed draft in pod of 8 players, however you can play your games any time during the time the draft event is active so you don't play "within your pod" like you would at a live event, reward structure is more top heavy although still has some pity.Premier draft is also the only one avaialble for alchemy mini-sets (the packs that come out that have the Alchemy cards mixed in to the regular set) for like 1 week per set.Draft is the only way for an F2P player to get "gems" which are the currency you normally get by paying money, as opposed to gold, which is the currency for grinding dailies. Gems are required to purchase the "set mastery" which massively increases what you get for grinding dailies (grinding dailies gives gold and XP, and set mastery gives you more stuff for "leveling up").
>>720577776if one is knowledgeable about pelvis breaking, that one must be huatli
>>720606440This is GENUINELY infuriating. The emergence of a new fucking god should be a major story point.And instead, it's some fucking background detail for Chandra's bullshit race.
>>720606059the starters they give you in arena have names like Goblins Everywhere! or Graveyard Gifts
>>720606684I obviously know she's evil. I just like her still and I think she's a more fun and cool character then Sorin, who sits in his ass all day while the plane is trapped in eternal night or his cousin is trying to rape his grandfather.And if getting worshipped by humans was worth anything Serra wouldn't be an useless bum who died of heartbreak or some gay shit like that. But guess what, she is.
>>720571976Wrong board/tg/ is over that way.
>>720606684>NaafiriWho the fuck is Naafiri?Do you mean Nahiri?
>>720606692Whatever method of playing that gives WOKETC the least amount of money is ideal
>>720606719Avacyn literally was corrupted. All the angels were being corrupted. She was clearly completely fucking insane by the point that Sorin deleted her. The corruption vector was not the humans, it was fucking Emrakul and Nahiri's cryptoliths that were attracting her. If she actually had her head screwed on straight she would have tried to attack those, but no, she went and killed the humans for their own good. Because she was corrupted.
>>720606861yeah sorry i mixed her up with a league character
>>720606414>Archon of Cruelty decks just slot into everything I want to dono shit, a card combination that uses less resources to gain more resources while interfering with your enemy and denying them resources is generally a pretty good thing to be doing. its less that everyone wants to play reanimator and more that every archetype is forced to include reanimator package in order to match the pace.
>>720606785Two gods, actually, if i'm not mistaken
>>720606947I must kill mark rosewater.
>>720599178soldiers was meta for like 2 months troon. sure shes not adeleine who is legacy playable but shes close. bring to light and other cards that can cheat her out like her as well>uh soldiers sucked assyou stipulated any standard play
>>720606861 kek yeah, Nahiri. It's honestly kinda fitting that people are forgetting her name though, considering WOTC’s complete inability to give her a coherent character arc. One second she's stone-sculpting on Zendikar, next she's masterminding an Eldrazi infestation because her vampire ex ghosted her. Peak writing right there.
>>720606982In a MTG game.
>>720606881WotC is starting to realize that by completely abandoning constructed play and official support of competitive events they're eroding any reason for cards to have value. By exclusively pandering to casualfag EDH retards, there's no reason to not just fire up the printer for every card that costs more than a quarter.
>>720606947okay this is hot as fuck. also is this as much of a monstrosity in limited as it looks like? card draw each other turn plus an indestructible beatstick with trample and reach that only grows larger? jesus
>>720606861>>720607015She will forever just be stone forge mystic to me i never call her by her name
>>720592680the og star wars tcgalso idk what the fuck youre on there are plenty of beaters that aren't worth removing or have punisher effects in that case or they have inherent value like 2mv etb draw a card on 1/1s which can and will beat you down in a stax deck
>>720577374It unironically depends on your pod. With good people who can handle themselves and know not to squable over every little thing, it's fun. When you see people sweat and cry at every instance, it's insufferable.
>>720606947>all of that for something you could reasonably get out by turn 3wtf
>>720593854gwent kind of has thisyou have limited fatties and limited resources so choosing which battlefield to contest and conquer is strategic between rounds, same with marvel snap. its a bit boring but it is interesting
>>720606692Even if I get proxies, play data still goes to wizards. Hell I don't even know if my modern scene is still alive, last time I scoped out the store there was barely 8 people and that was 2 years ago. >>720606940I meant the decks he's in, not the card itself. Like jund creativity.
>>720607074just like scarab and lotus gods in hour of devastation, it is better to have a messy 4c pile including this god than it is to have a sleek 2c deck while leaving it in the sideboard
>>720607015She was stone sculpting in Zendikar to trap the Eldrazi. Sorin promises to help if shit goes south; shit goes south and he doesn't. After that Sorin's retardation traps her for thousands of years in a void with only a bunch of demons for company, she goes completely batshit insane and decides making Sorin suffer is her number one priority now, so she goes to smash up Innistrad because fuck him. Since then she's either been feuding with him at every chance or trying to help her home and usually getting kicked in the teeth because WotC hates her.
>>720577545For a while this was what was ruining standard, then it got banned and then something else ruined standard. I'm so fucking glad I do not purchase anything from this company
>>720607171Dies to swords to plowshares, sorry.
>>720596353i mean it is a strategy game, even if this card is good [its not, its best stat is adding 5 pips for devotion] magic is about prepping your deck for the field, not answering everything it adds variance and meta deckbuilding. unfortunately for the real OP cards it does just push 90% of deck variety out the window in favor of stuff that can actually beat THE DECK.this dino is bad because the cost forces a bad green deck and its very easy to just chump a dork every turn and kill them on the crackback
>>720607313That, the Tarkir cutter, and the Bloomburrow mouse. With them gone, it's now Vivi ruining standard. And once he's gone, something else will show up.Shit's barely seeing playtesting at wotc. This many bans with this many cards each was not the norm.
>>720607226>Like jund creativityyou mean taking the jund shell, but replace its suite of varied threats on the board for a linear reanimator package because archon is just better than creatures on curve? yes that is what i was talking about.
>>720588335let's not pretend that a digital battle with zero qol and no human interaction is very appealingwack-ass formatting is probably the biggest issue for me, the worst of both worlds
>>720607254>Fucks up and destroys her spark which was safe inside a hedron, a luxury no other desparked planeswalker had
>>720607313the problem with standard isnt that a particular card is ruining the curve, its that a red deck playing cards on turn 1 and 2 is four turns of tempo ahead of any non-red deck playing cards on turn 1 and 2. the entire standard cardpool is at, you either need to ban 10 red 1 drop creatures or print 20 in every other color to fix it.
>>720607459Don't worry, they won't ban anything. They'll just leave Standard to die like all formats they get involved with
>>720596353If your creature is hard to cast or has deckbuilding requirements (this has both) it better fucking offer something to pay for that cost.This thing doesn't. It can be chumpblocked. It forces monogreen because it's 5 green pips and it doesn't even kill your enemy if it connects. You are jumping through so many hoops to do something that is just not very valuable.
>>720607603yeah that was retarded, but then again all of March of the Machine was. They should have just kept the compleated planeswalkers. my fucking wife is dead and for what? a hasty reset to the status quo and the cowboy plane. fucking hell.
BEFORE THE THREAD DIES I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT THERE WERE RETARDS WHO HONEST TO GOD PIC WOULD RUIN THE GAME BECAUSE "ZOMG TRAMPLE OR FLING ON MY 7 MANA ZERO PROTECTION 10000/7??????? BROKEN!!!!"
>>720604980Honestly it wouldn't matter!
>>720607772honestly the attack trigger is the thing that saves this, an actual infinity/7 creature would absolutely just be reanimate-fling fodder.
>>720607254to be fair it was 6000 years in between them sealing the eldrazi and them getting released also ugin died so they really could not have done anything, it took time travel by sarkan to revive ugin again
>>720607889Anon infinity elemental could exist in a playable form and it'd be shit.
>>720604778lmao gitgud
>>720590268>two words in type lineis there anything else like it? doesn't it mean that artifact's subtypes are "infinity" and "stone"? have we finally hit a point that you gotta quote "multiple word types" like it's fucking sadpanda?
>>720607254She got desparked bro she's washed give it up
>earthcraft>squirrel nestWill never not be funny
>>720577381>and kill universes beyond except for the edhtardsnot going to happenhasbro made a shit ton of money with the final fantasy UB set, like millions in their entire history and be fucking sure they will repeat something again with an anime set.
Why aren't you playing arena? I have brawl decks worth thousands of dollars in paper that i play for FREE
>>720608784genshin collab fucking when? just imagine how much money could they make, like millions.
>>720608943give it 2 or 3 years anon the printers are full with marvel slop right now
>>720608943It was cool for them to make FF but WotC is still a woke company that won't bend the knee to pedos
>>720608943After the Star Wars set.
>>720608995>but WotC is still a woke company that won't bend the knee to pedosare you sure about that?
>>720609070>it deals 1 damageftfy
>>720609070>need to pay mana AFTER dealing combat damage to deal damage to ONE targettrash design>>7206089432/2 can't attack but has a filter effect in a blue GREEN card when this should be a blue/red effectutter trash design
>>720609146noit my card, but thanks, anon
>>720604703This got updated.
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>modern wizard productsOOOOHMMM
Magic peaked like 20 years agoStandard died before Covid even hit at my LGS. Then Pioneer was a meme for like 6 months before that died, too. Now all people do is play either draft/sealed or Commander which has become a bunch of spergs playing non-Magic crossover cards. Pure faggotry.
>>720610050Modern still has some ride or die fans though even they seem to be losing steam. Meanwhile I haven't seen a legacy fag in a LONG time.
>>720610050>pioneer became a non-rotating format while Modern became oneIronic
Any decks I can play on arena that focus on stax/taxes/land destruction/etc?
