Digimon and Pokemon in 2025
>>720580107pokemon drones will eat whatever slop game freak shits out regardless of quality so why would they bother actually trying?
How can anyone else even compete
>>720580294i want his talons on my face
What about Digimon vs SMTVV?
>>720580107Digimon will never be popular
Right looks and plays better
Um is that a rideable mount?@NINTENDO @FBI sue this man.
>>720582390>full of black people>day 1 DLC for individual PokemonI'll take the left
>>720580107Left: Hallways with just a few interactable NPCs shown on minimap, walk from point A to B to trigger the next cutscene.Right: Larger maps, you can walk to most places and go on top of buildings, more NPCs to interact with along the way
>>720584415And the gameplay?
>>720584415>you can walk to most placeswrong
>>720580107Function over form
>>720582567Too bad she has a black void in game.
>>720584651nu pokemon has neither. the games look like shit, run like shit, and aren't fun to play.
>>720580107>graphics and gameplay but no one cares>absolute dogshit but everyone loves itgrim
>>720584897>and gameplayCyber Sleuth was a very dull game and I've already seen people implying Time Stranger can be beaten with just auto-battle. Even if Z-A is the first time Gamefreak is trying a new battle system I am quite certain its gameplay will end up being more entertaining.
>>720585054>can be beaten with just auto-battleso can every turn based jrpg. pokemon npc battles have never been difficult and never will be because these are games for children.
>>720580107Jesus.....Pokebros...
>>720582559REMEMBER THE HONEYPOT CANNOT BE ERASED
>>720580107>desouled vs unsouled
>>720581891 SMTVV has the better mechanics and way more satisfying difficulty curve, but Digimon games usually let you go hog wild with evolution paths and team building, so it comes down to what kind of grind you prefer. SMT is like playing chess with demons, Digimon is like building a monster Voltron that yells friendship slogans.
>>720580107Digimon could be the best game of all time and still lose because Digimon designs are fucking dumb as shit even when compared to modern day Pokemon designs.
>>720580107>10 years for thatembarrassingpokeGODS stay winning
>>720581891>What about a monster series with combat fans constantly cope with and mediocre OSTs people forget about VS a monster series with one of the most respected turn based combat out there and constantly high quality OSTsWhat about you go fuck yourself.
>>720590869>Digimon designs are fucking dumb as shit even when compared to modern day Pokemon designs.lol delusional, OG Digimon mog the shit out of any era of Pokemon designs, current Digimon designs mog almost every Pokemon design except a handful
>>720580294>>720581436I got that dialogue too. I can see why this thing can turn into Lilithmon.
>>720590869>Digimon designs are fucking dumb as shitThere are some dumb digimon designs out there like Gundramon but its those designs that let you know youre looking at MONSTERS and not just animals with a motif(usually elemental) like Pokemon are.Besides for every Numemon and theres like 4 other Digimon like Jesmon,Wargreymon and Beelzebumon that make shit like Charizard,Dragonite and Zapdos look like plushies you buy.
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Pokémon’s in trouble after Time Stranger. With Palworld, it was really only a bit of worry over the graphical fidelity of the monsters. With Digimon now though, the gameplay, story and presentation are all one-upping it. Pokémon and Digimon fans won’t care, as they play both games. Hormones on YouTube though will care for click bait. Because as soon as Digimon releases, what kind of video reviews are gonna generate the most clicks? “You won’t BELIVE how Digimon has beaten Pokémon in 2025…”So that’ll be the more consensus for years until Nintendo let game freak develop the games for longer than 1.5 years and not outsource shit to ILCA as a stopgap.
>>720593176Unsurpassed
>>720582567>>day 1 DLC for individual PokemonThat cant be real
>>720593469Not exactly but you can preorder DLC already that has megas locked behind it
A shame that Level 5's development is a mess. It would have been interesting to see their not-Yokai Watch compete against the new Digimon and Pokemon.
>>720593712Can’t compete because there’s a thematic gimmick, instead of just letting the monsters be monsters.
>>720593712The worst thing about this is that it was probably fucking Inafune who demanded they drop Yokai Watch entirely for whatever the fuck this is. He fucked up everything at level 5 when he was there.
>>720593176I don't know what that pink rat is but he has really sexy paws UwU
>>720594023It seems to be an attempt to make a Yokai Watch game that is easier to market internationally. Instead of designing monsters based on Japanese legends they're making ghosts based on common objects that almost everyone has. It looks less cool, but it's easier to explain to non-weebs.
>>720580107So I'm probably taller than a Greymon. Thanks for ruining the fantasy.
my pc is too shit for thisstill going to play the demo
>>720593258>yt echo chamber ever amount to anything
>>720590869Blow it out your ass
>>720595387Digimon sizes can vary a lot canonically. There's this one manga where the protagonist's Greymon is barely taller than he is and he has to fight a nearly kaiju-sized greymon
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>>720597681>Tiny ass greymonLMAO
how come SHITkemon doesn't have canon interspecies couples?>inb4 non-canon leaked texts
>>720597889Latias wanted to fuck Ash tho.
>>720597980ash is too innocent aka gay
>>720582390It's literally Digimon World Next Order's gameplay lmao.
>>720598450And? I would rather play one of the bad Digimon World sequels than the shitty smt rip offs for trannies to talk about how much they wish they were in a lesbian relationship with the mc
>>720580107Yes but when digimon add a Hex Maniac character to trigger my AGP you call me
>>720580107and yet, pokemon will sell way more than digiflop
>>720580107Pokémon is consistently ranked as the most successful and highest-grossing media franchise in the world
>>720580107Why the hell are the NPCs still white?
>>720597709>Left: Soulless>Right: SOVL
>>720592234>There are some dumb digimon designs out there like Gundramonyou have to be either retarded, a faggot or both to call this dumb
>>720595387Sizes are never consistent for some reason. Taichi's first Agumon/Greymon in the Episode 0 OVA is fucking huge. The "RedGreymon" is taller than the bridge behind him. But the Greymon at the end credits is smaller.
>>720593712>>720594023>>720594874reminds me of onmyou taisenki being stuck in japan because it was too japanese for international markets
>>720598547Just because LZA's copies DW's combat, doesn't mean the game is exactly like DW you stupid retard. The best thing about the DW games is not the combat but raising mons. Something that LZA doesn't have because it's still using Pokemon's levelling system. Fucking retarded nigger.
>>720595387>>720598783>actual autismthe scale differs due to gameplay, same as pokemon.
LZA already shows how shit it looks but besides that i believe that game freak really missed a good opportunity to make battles more interactive by you controlling the pokemon instead of making the pokemon follow you. based in the anime and games, the trainer gets out of the picture because it is the pokemon doing all the movements.
>>720580107>left: has to try>right: doesn't need to tryit's that shrimple
>>720599249eww faggot
>>720597889i like how her evolutions are all his interest (and bandai's market). waifu, tokusatsu, magical girl, gundam
>>720597889My friend Jellymar!
>>720599249you clearly never saw a digimon game before.
Pokemon is a shit series but let's not kid ourselves that the newest Digimon game is not complete dogshit with zero substance.
>>720599249what's with faggots inviting themselves into fandoms without knowing any lick of the source material?
>>720595387Are you like 8ft tall or something?
>>720598824Holy fuck, someone else who knows of Onmyou Taisenki?I wish it'd been popular.
>>720592841SwShfags are always seething so hard that everyone hates those piece of shit games, yeah the games that came after look worse but SwSh will still hold the title for the worst mainline games in the franchise so far lmao
>>720600142NTA, but I tried getting into it, but it was too Japanese. I don't think the fansubs helped either.
>>720600142it was another bandai product just like Dragon Drive and Legendz and i was there when they all were subtitled and available to download. OT had a cool concept but in my first watch i had no idea what was going on until i made some research and realize it's all jap shit. still cool though but i get why it wouldn't fly overseas
Digimon games kinda suck in a way because they've gotta make the Digimon smaller than the anime.Anime Greymon is like four times this guy's size.
>>720600325i feel bad for fansubbers, i bet not even they knew or explain what was going.
>>720599249BASED and correctThis post triggered the tendies
>>720600496Also because they don't give partners with personalities and are just either SMT monster collectors or V-pet simulators.
>>720580107Pokemon is a lifestyle. Digimon is just a game.
>>720600496Metal Greymon is about the right size
>>720600512saying digimon never had to try but still decided to do it in the middle of a financial crisis isn't defending nintendo, it's litteraly shiting on them geting worse and worse
>>720600630Yeah, a shit lifestyle, full of lazy games with nothing in them past Gen 7.
>>720600623>Also because they don't give partners with personalitiesI feel like this is the thing most creature collectors are missing. Interactions with your creatures in these games are very rudimentary. This game does it better than most, giving your digimon some unique interactions, but still, it's scant.
>>720600385hey, it's the guy from digimon beatbreakerdammit kenji reusing his own designs
Pokemon is whatever but Digimon is a schizo series with an absurd identity crisis it will never fix. No Digimon fan can look me straight in the eyes and tell me they are happy with the situation. That they were ever happy with the Digimon situation.
>>720600802>>>identity crisis<<<>>>situation<<<
>>720600802>Loved Survive>Loved Next Order>Will love thisI think that's a you problem, the only actual problem with digimon is nostalgiafagging which they seem to have realized is bad recently.
how is hackers memory game? i played cyber slueth long ago but i don't like how you had to be platinum poop mon to evolve your digimon basically or somethingis that still in the sequel?
>>720600881Yeah, that's why all those games sold like dog shit.
>>720600802Just about every Digimon fan will tell you they're quite happy with most of what they've got for the past several years. Really the only thing they complain about is Bandai not doing enough with it.
>>720600802You can't even explain the situation and you probably hate most of the franchise anyway.
>>720600990I know this is /v/ but I don't care about salesfagging.Digimon will die one day just like several other franchises I love did (rest in piece Etrian Odyssey) but until then I'll continue to love it anyway as long as it keeps putting out things I enjoy.
Digifag not bring up pokemon challenge(Impossible)
>>720580107Is left supposed to look better outside of riding Greymon?
>>720600990no one care about sale, but even the moster retarded CEO can understand he will be left with nothing if they let the IP die without anime or game.
>>720601096Why did you even respond to say you eat all the shit. About almost everyone, even VN fags, hated survive. World fags hated Next Order.
>>720600762It's even crazier from Digimon when most of the appeal of the anime is the Digimon and their personalities.But instead of making your partner be a dude with his/her own thing going on to appeal to animefags, they'll just throw another Greymon form into the games.
>>720600961I mean its still the optimal solition, but you don't need it. You didn't even really need it in Cyber Sleuth unless you played hard mode, which yes, is as unabalanced in hackers memory. No, you do not need to obsess over exp to complete Cyber Sleuth r Hackers Memory, and Hackers Memory ims worth playing. Its a great game.
>>720593469>>720582567Doesn't TS also have day 1 DLC and a fucking season pass for more digimon lines to be added?
>>720601215At least I can read what the signs say in Digimon.
>>720601245To be fair they did do that with Survive, but Survive was a fucking VN.
>>720601254Yes, Scamco is ruining the game before it even launches and retards eat it up. Digifags are somehow even more desperate than Pokefags and its always a farce to see them shill for even greedier and worse games than pokeslop.
>>720601339/thread
>>720580107It's funny because you can see, unapologetically even, that left is a corridor simulator while right is an open area. Get the fuck out with this SMT game for retards. At least Pokemon is its own thing.
>>720593258>“You won’t BELIVE how Digimon has beaten Pokémon in 2025…”And then they'll play it and realize poketards once again overhyped a mediocre game in a stupid move to get one over on Gamefreak. Exact same shit happened with Cyber Sleuth.
>>720600802I would like some kind of solid unified lore, especially around where and when Digimon come from.I'm partial to the "they were always around and were the yokai and other spirits of the past and the digital thing is just their new form" type over the "they came from a computer virus and copied our data to make themselves" type.
>>720601475>At least Pokemon is its own thing.lol lmao even
>>720601490It changes based on the setting because it's a multiverse and always has been.
pokemon was never goodan entire ip riding on nostalgia
>>720601585It's funny because this is 100% true for Digimon but not true at all for Pokemon who manages to consistently get new young fans. Every Digimon fan is some 30+ years old loser.
>>720582390Looks? noPlays? yes.
>>720601684>Every Digimon fan is some 30+ years old losertypical pokefag projection
>>720601475>At least Pokemon is its own thing.
>>720601475>corridor simulator has a better sense of scale and immersion than the big open world game everyone jerks off, it being contained actually makes it feel lived in and allows the city to feel massiveThank you for pointing out why open world games are shit.
>>720601745He says when he made this post >>720601585Literally more projection than this is not even possible. Does the newest game even have a single new digimon? It's literally just 100% fanservice nostalgia bait.
>>720601835name one new pokemon that isn't poorly designed
>>720601798Yep. Meanwhile Digimon is just SMT for retards now. Digimon World, the unique Digimon thing, didn't have a new game in a decade.
>>720601490eh play (or may i say watch) the 40h of survive and will get some lore in the last 5 minute of one of the 4 ending
>>720601835>It's literally just 100% fanservice nostalgia bait.This is very funny when 90 percent of pokemon is "Remember Kanto?"
>>720601892>>720601980Oh my god I just guessed but there is really not a single new digimon in the new game. This is so pathetic.
>>720600802>Digimon is a schizo series with an absurd identity crisis it will never fix.Just because Digimon doesn't have an stablished mainline like pokemon doesn't mean it suffers an Identity crisis,Personally I love the World style of gameplay and find the story games boring but that doesn't mean bad because it is more exciting than anythin that pokemon has released on the last decade bar Arceus.
>>720601956If digimon is SMT for retards then wtf is Pokemon? Am I getting epically trolled?
>>720601835GreatGryzmonSkullSeadramonSharkmonEnbarrmonMasterBlimpmon
>>720601956Actually it's DQM for retards, thank you very much.
>>720602065How do Digimon battles work?
>>720601980The Unovazoomer unveils itself.
>>720601835TS has several new Digimon and the whole game revolves primarily around a group of Digimon who were never in either of the big nostalgiafag anime seasons lolIt's pretty clear from your posts itt that you're not actually very familiar with Digimon or its fanbase in the slightest
>>720601576That kind of disjointed nonsense where every piece of media is a completely different universe is annoying.
>>720602035>pokefags have to lie to try and argue
>>720600795that's what i love about digimon. it's so meta it references bandai involvement>Shakamon inspired in Virgo Shaka>Volcamon being a direct reference to Volano Ota>Jellymon evolutions all being references to Bandai's product>Stingmon being loosely based on Kamen Rider>Nanimon being a reference to a tamagotchi creatureand those are the ones that comes to my head at the moment. I'm sure there are more i'm missing
>>720602184It's pretty clear that the digimon fanbase is not familiar with digimon and its fanbase when it tries to bring the nostalgia fag argument when digimons fanbase is way older than Pokemon because digimon didn't have anything really successful in like 2 decades while Pokemon literally is massively popular in every single demographic.
>>720602261That's because you're stuffy and constrained, we digichads are students of freedom.
>>720602184>who were never in either of the big nostalgiafag anime seasonsThe whole setting of Iliad is completely new.All the other games and anime have been in Yggy-run Digital Worlds.
>>720602480Illiad isn't new, it was introduced in Digimon Crusader, a mobile game nobody here played. The actual new digital world is Shambala which is introduced as part of the lore for the TOHO BRAVES and SAIYU WARRIORS pendulum v pets
>>720602480Yeah, but a few of the individual Olympos XII mons did appear in Savers and Xros Wars, that's what i meant
>>720601825>corridor simulator has a better sense of scale Yeah that's why Greymon is a manlet now.
Game Freak was always good at making "small" games. Pokemon could never handle the transition to a larger open world type game.
>>720601490i'm 50/50 because being born from computers made sense on why they are taking those forms as they are simply processing all that data and information being shared around. imagine all the books scanned, transcripted and shared, all illustrations; it makes sense why some are based on mythology since they are taking reference from all that information. Also the implication that more digimon are generated the more technology advances like in the case of Examonone the other hand, them existing before technology gives an ominous implication that technology has opened the gates for them to come in inviting digimon that only know to cause havoc and the world not being prepared for this threat makes that tension more satisfying, like a pseudo shin megami tensei (no, not persona)
>>720602662Meanwhile Digimon never had any kind of transition and just rebooted the series every game.
>>720602639>nowGraymon was barely taller than a child in the first big Digimon game lol
>>720602574It's new as a setting, Anon.Being in a game and being the actual main world are two different things.
>>720580107>painted on balconiesfeels like a skit
>>720602125It depends which Gameplay style you're talkingStory: SMT like with inherited stkills and somewhat streamlined "breeding" mechanics, it focuses on synergies between the teams and it is a more "classic" turn based RPGWorld; the emphasis is more on the Digimon itself and the care, the combat isn't that deep but it is serviceable.
Pokemon ended after gen 5 but this is cool fan art.
How is the gameplay of Time Stranger? Is it the same as Cyber Sleuth?
>>720602792It's the main setting of crusader and is where the lore for Jupitermon comes from.
>>720602728>Also the implication that more digimon are generated the more technology advances like in the case of ExamonExamon wasn't created when new technology was introduced, he just wasn't able to be rendered until they reached the level of Exabytes.
>>720602261is because gives to hack authors the excuse to rewrite established lore, a good story has a defined lore on the backbone and it can branch out from there but incapable hacks retort always to multiverse in order to justify their headcanon, just look at the current comics industry.
>>720602791So was metalgreymon. What a retarded argument.
>>720580107How big is Greymon meant to be anyway? He's gigantic in the movie and still house sized in Adventure
>>720602910Same 1/10 gameplay with 0/10 story.
>>720603071>filtered by time strangers
>>720602994You're the one who seems to think that Digimon sizes are in any way important or consistent across media and Greymon being small in TS is somehow an argument against it
>>720602184you are aware that games is literally the least profitable branch of Digimon right? I mean I appreciate they put teh Homerus Server on this game but let's not kid ourselves, they have been milking Taichi for straight 25 years now (not complaining but pointing it up).
It kinda does infuriate me that Digimon seems to be getting better and better and just can't get the audience.
>>720603071>Same 1/10 gameplay with 0/10 storyold habits never die. perhaps pokemon is more up your alley
>>720603146Metalgreymon is bigger than a t-rex. You're literally retarded, mate. That anon made the argument that the game managed to have good scale in exchange for having boring corridors which obviously it doesn't.
>>720603063Rough size chart, but generally digimon can vary a bit in size the only ones that stay at a consistent scale are the ones where their size is a specific part of their description like Leviamon, KingWhamon and Examon.
>>720603278>Metalgreymon is bigger than a t-rexAccording to whom? Does either MetalGreymon's DRB entries specify how big it's supposed to be? Again, shut the fuck up, you have no idea what you're talking about, it's embarassing, quit the samefagging while you're at it
I played the demo of time stranger, and as someone who dosent really play Pokémon shit I don't get it. I just press e to get the free hit before the battle than just use the ss the digimon are weak to, there's no challenge, depth, or anything to this game, even on hard, what's the point of these games?Am I missing something?
>>720603471you can canonically just edit their size scale like the fucking skyrim console command
>>720603261>perhaps pokemon is more up your alleydude has been doing nothing but defending pokemon the whole thread, no shit
>>720603471Even with the smallest estimation he is still not the height he is in Digimon World 1 which is barely bigger than a toddler. Just admit you are the biggest retard and shot yourself in the foot for your extremely retarded argument of bringing world 1 scale into this. What a fucking bitch ass retard with the most retarded argument ever seen on this site.
Kameo in 2005Both of your games look like shit.
>>720603150Yeah, and that's not very relevant since, if you couldn't tell, this exchange is specifically about Time StrangerAnd the series has been consistently been pumping out non-adventure content in every front for years now and they've officially buried the Adventure setting for the foreseeable future with beyond
>>720598824>onmyou taisenkiHuh, I think I owned a backpack and a pen case with art of the characters when I was a kid. They were pirate merch since I don't remember seeing the characters on TV.Also lel, this was the first image that appeared when I searched its name. I even had safe search enabled.
Stick your dick in crazy
>>720603538>Am I missing something?A brain.
>>720603762Do I not have the high rick and morty iq to enjoy these games?
>>720603538You're just extremely intelligent and can't absorb any fun from retarded nostalgia bait for mentally crippled 30+ people.
>>720603538you played the demo bro of course it's easy, if it was hard brainlets wouldn't buy the game
>>720603628>smallest estimationWhose? Yours? You're clearly not a very good source on anything digimon-related buddy>What a fucking bitch ass retard with the most retarded argument ever seen on this site.Not as retarded as unironically believing the possibility that Time Stranger has no new Digimon and "fanservice nostalgia bait" lmao
>>720603538It's the beginning of an rpg, those tend to be easy and braindead on purpose. That said, given how some of the systems work, the game will only be as difficult as you make it since you can just boost a single digimon to 9999 stats in like a couple of hours of grinding.
>>720603538the point is the story
>>720597980that’s a 10 year old boy, and latias only wanted friends
>>720582567Would you rather be in a town full of blacks or a town full of furries?
>>720603705it's no surprise that this anime will be remembered for its porn and karabiner fanart
>>720604026What about a town of black furries?
>>720603942>Whose? Yours?Try literally every game after Digimon World. But of course the little retarded fanboy didn't play any of the games.>"fanservice nostalgia bait"Oh god, he denies Digimon is shitty fanservice nostalgia bait when the series couldn't obtain any new fans for 20 years and every game sells like shit.
>>720603951Not him but anon, if you have an iq above double digits you know these games never get actually hard come on now
>>720603201It still has a lot of negative rep from people that grew up through the GB/GBA/DS/PS1/PS2 eras unfortunately, mostly bad games didn't help
>>720601280Now THAT'S a humiliation ritual if I ever see one
>>720604301Prove it. Show your Legendary Tamer defeated screenshots.
>>720604159That's just a Gabumon, there is no black at the end Jijimon.
>>720604428I guess that makes sense.
>>720604159How did he get away with skinning a black Digimon like that?
Haven't played a Pokemon since Emerald but by the screenshots that looks like a big open city. The Digimon stuff looks incredibly linear, like there's no real point to riding Digimon in enclosed environments.
>>720604301They aren't yeah. I just go into every new game assuming they'll actually try to make it challenging this time.
>>720604081Was the anime as gay as the fanart makes it look?
>>720580107Why does the homosexual on the left wear a turquoise blazer and red bandanna? Is he riding to the assfuck convention?
>>720604808no but it came in that time where furry/kemono artists got out of the woods and infested the internet
>>720580107Left looks more fun. Right looks better (surprisingly)
>>720604758Big open maps or being only corridors mean literally nothing, what matters is the actual level design.
>>720604808it's not gay, not as i remember. but Kogenta is very twinkish and the boy is your typical shy boy so I can already guess why was this show attracted fujos
>>720604159>white digimon skinned a black digimonwouldn't be considered blackface?
>>720605056me when i'm blind
>>720580107Left looks kinda blurry. I prefer the clear graphics. Though I doubt any of those games are better than 5/10.
>>720604808No that's just fags taking the MC's partner and going to town with it, MC and Kogenta even had love interests of their own
>>720581991that's me on the left, also me on the right, also me slightly above and to the left of me on the right, and also me in the top left
>>720604758yeah
>bandai anime game lookI'm good.
ZA was developed with switch in mind. You can't expect amazing graphic with that piece of shit hardware.
>>720605729wrong
>>720592841Pokemon is literally going backwards Holy Kek
>open world>plains, plateaus, and small hills with a few small bushesI'm so tired of it all
Woah. So this is the mighty power of the Digimon series.
>>720606220>floppeddigimon bros...
>>720606220>port of a 10 year old vita gamea large portion of digimons fanbase plays on console
>>720606220>YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ARE THOSE SOME HECKING NUMBERSpokenigs really going to live by the numbers and die by the numbershey, as long as the franchise's number continues high, it's all good, right?
>>720606257>ZEH!
>>720606220>steam shartsyou are brown
>>720606220steam chart posters need to be castrated
>>720606257Postthe webm of the character from SV eating a sandwich. That was the embodiment of laziness.
>>720606220That is a god tier player retention, anon.
>>720606358Numbers are at least facts. Of course it feels bad for Digimon fags when they are being reminded with facts instead of throwing around random opinions.
>>720580107Digimon.
>>720606220>10 year old portTime Stranger is #23 on top sellers on steam
>>720606573Right, and fifa and cawadoody black cocks are the greatest game known to man. Can't forget gachashit, either.Can you check the steamcharts for pokemon now? oh, that's right...
>>720604758that was the issue with cyber slut too
>>720606220>10 year old ps vita port >poorly localized>Over 1000 people playingWhere's the own here?
>Digimon v Pokemon shitflingingThis is the fate of all monster taming rpgs
>>720580107There's so many moments in Z-A where it would look loads better with just a simple thin layer of raised grass making the area look lush, the flat textures just look so cheap, the fact there's no tessellation or more detailed building geometry in the Switch 2 version like pulling the pillars out 2 inches to create depth is just lazy
>>720606687Fifa and Call of Duty are the best in what they are trying to be. Meanwhile everything beats Digimon at everything.
>>720602375A lot of Zoomers like Digimon. It surprised me because most of them were too young to remember when it came out or not born yet. Pokemon and Yugioh were more popular. The Digimon show was great, but most people i knew didn't care about the games.The resurgence fits with the new aesthetic shift and obsession. Y2K era. Also, the fact that it's digital monsters just works well with how things have progressed. NFTs, crypto, AI, etc. Kinda makes sense that it would crop up again almost 30 years later.
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>>720606825And you lost the argument, a newfag that doesn't even know how to fit in. Have a nice day.
>>720580107Imagine having worse gameplay than Pokemon, quite possibly the game series with the most infamous case of stagnation, after 30 years.
>>720607009Look, the 30+ year old guy playing Digimon is crowning himself the winner in an internet argument. How cute.
>>720606949NFTmon and Crpytomon when? We need a proper chimp mon.
>>720580107Crazy how the one on the right is made by one of the richest companies in the world
>>720607158You're insane.
>>720606949I forgot, zoomers grew up with tablets and phones from a young age as well. They're like the Digimon kids. Young zoomers and i guess old gen alpha are obsessed with Y2K and the 2000s. In like a year we're gonna shift from the 80s revival to the 90s, but it will be the latter half of the 90s. I already see college students with giant jeans, girls dressing like Gwen Stefani and the Y2K Japanese style. A lot of late 90s early 00s styles and aesthetics.
>>720580107NINTENDO!!! SUE THIS MAN!
Am I reading this right?From the wording it seems like they're adding 5 full Mega digivolution lines with each DLC aka new digimon from at least rookie to their mega digivolution, so it's now more likely for the Ghost Game partner digimon to make it into the game eventually.
>>720580294The things these onaho say
>>720608260Digimon retards are getting milked for all they are worth.
>>720606257Game Freak are the biggest scam artists in the gaming industry, granted the fanbase is also just plain retarded for buying this shit
>>720606257It could've been better but people would buy anyway
Fucking poketards don't have to understand why their game is looking so bad despite being developed by the richest company in japan lmao
lmao at the one pokefag fuming itt
>>720608686ESL
>>720608260It's really confusing but it's 5 digimon per pack (all the prelease marketing shots specify 5 digimon x3, those details suggest it's 5 Megas per pack), I think it's because they are adding evo routes to the 5 Megas to the game (and you will need to make them yourself) instead of just putting the 5 into your storage box. (like the 5 NX guys from HM)That said they could still only add all the GG Megas
>>720608437>Have to purchase Nintendo online to play online ranked to obtain mega evolutions that fans have been>Brilliant work game freak
>>720604159>BlackGarurumon>BlackAgumon>BlackGatomon>Weregarurumon(Black)>Devidramon>DarkTyrannomon>BlaclWarGreymon>LadyDevimon>BeelStarmon>Botamon>Sistemon NoirI dig it
>>720608868>adventure and CS costumes.tri bros... we're getting aids cats with this one, aren't we?
>>720608951>preorder bonus black agumon and black gabumonLol, lmao even.
>>720609060Actually pretty likely if the DLC lineup is as outdated as the main roster
is there a game where i can fug jellymon yet
>>720593089>signature movesok now show the animations for basic attacks
>>720608868It wouldn't make sense to only add mega digimon without their pre-requisite evolution though.
>>720609209
>>720609209NTA but those are still better if I remember correctly. Like at the very least the Digimon will do a basic attack animation.The Pokemon just does a little hop.Also, I think that every Digimon besides the babies has a signature move so that's a lot more unique animations either way.
>>720609436i dunno i didn't finish cyber sluts, i just remember a ps4 game having pokemon stadium tier animations and still don't even physically hit each other
>>720609358So this is the power and might of Machinedramon-sama, one of the strongest and most iconic digimon known to mankind.
That Time Stranger demo was more enjoyable than any Switch Pokemon game lmfao
>>720609060You might need to wait until a season 2 DLC or more for all the aids cats, since the line is champion > ulimate > mega, and then she needs another mega to get her fusion
>>720609508Yeah they never do that.And the environments are super repetitive. I have a lot of gripes about Cyber Sluts and Hacker's Memory but the creatures and animations are not one of them.
>>720609676There is no shame getting filtered by the switch pokemon games. They can get pretty difficult compared to digimon.
>>720609772bruh at least pick use a plausible lie
>>720580107Whatever, Can they remake Digimon world 1? That was my best memory with that IP
>>720609772No they're all just straight ass
>>720609209>>720609508Even Pokemon Stadium tier attacks are miles ahead of Pokemon mainline, anon. And Digimon is a much better Pokemon Stadium in terms of animations as well.
>>720610797>And Digimon is a much better Pokemon Stadium in terms of animations as well.lol >>720609358
>>720610926That's his ranged attack/buff animation. The attacking animation is him shooting his claw forward.
>>720580107Digimon and pokemon has no sexy female characters.Therefore both fucking suck.
>>720611387That is factually incorrect
>>720611163The attack animation looks janky. There's no real choreography in CS. Every attack in CS no matter what it is cuts to the exact same animation of a Digimon taking damage. A lot of CS gameplay is going to look like >>720609358 most of the time.
>>720611387You could just have asked nicely for digi/poke girl fanart
>>720611387Well ok I'll post some, since you're asking so nicely
>>720611470>Every attack in CS no matter what it is cuts to the exact same animation of a Digimon taking damage.That isn't true, they also have different animations for critical hits. Regardless, that's inevitable in an rpg with so many models. Do you really think any developer, no matter their budget, will be able to have fluid and connecting attack animations that look and feel immersive for 500 different models? The best you can reasonably expect is Megaten levels where they do a basic "slap" animation and the model flies over to the enemy quickly to hide how unnatural it looks.
>>720598751Anon it literally has revolver antennas and spurs shaped like a revolvers barrel. Not to mention the giant ass revolver platform thing it has on its back and even its ARMS are revolvers
>>720611780It is admittedly stupid that he has 9mm wings instead of more revolvers.
>>720598751>>720611780I fucking love this guy.
>>720580107>mounting and riding greymonNINTENDOSUE THIS MAN
testest
>>720611905I don't trust her smile, what's her catch?
>>720597889>Digital hazard womb tattoo
>>720612067Only her eyes are smiling.
>>720610926Ok so that animation is comparable to the Stadium animations and are miles better than modern Pokemon animations.Any Pokemon fans who are genuinely arguing about animations are literally brain dead apes.
DO NOT FUCK THE VIRTUAL MONSTERSHUMANS CANNOT PROCREATE WITH DATA
>>720604530>Guilmon from the one fighting game sneaking in the background
>>720613116>PROCREATEgross
>>720613017I think Cyber Sleuth fags are just braindead Pokefags that just took their cult worship to something else because SwSh dropped their favorite shitmon.If you're going to act like that gif is peak vidya animation then fine, you're too far gone mentally already.
>>720611780Well is the name Gundramon or Wingdramon?
>>720613116Yeah they canReminder theres an interview out there which says that Digimon with masks dont have faces until they take them off. So when it comes to genitalia the same has to apply.
>>720613116That's even better. I can freely creampie them without consequnces.
>>720582567Excuse me they're called niggers.
>>720597889>Ultra Sun: It freezes hikers who have come to climb snowy mountains and carries them back to its home. It only goes after men it thinks are handsome.
i think i should finish survivor, i haven't gone deep into it but i keep reading that it's heavy in lore
>>720580107Pokemon wins again...maybe the next generation will be ours digibros
What the fuck is a digimon anyway? I have never played the games or watched the anime so I don't know why some digimon are just animals with armor and guns or humans in costumes while others are amorphous aliens or demons from ancient religions. What's the in-game explanation for their radically different designs?
>>720580107Is there any digimon that was in cyber sleuth that is NOT returning?
>>720582567>>day 1 DLC for individual PokemonIt has no such thing.
>>720616787i was never into digimon but i can answer based on one of their opening songsthey>CHAAAAAANGE INTO DIGITAL MOOOONSTEEEEEERRRSS
>>720616941Sistermon Blanc, Sistermon Blanc Awakened, Sistermon Noir, Sistermon Noir Awakened, Hudiemon, Arkadimon Baby, Arkadimon, Arkadimon Champion, Arkadimon Ultimate, Arkadimon Mega, Arkadimon Ultra, Omnimon NX, Crusadermon NX, Gallantmon NX, Alphamon NX, Duftmon NX
>>720601215Not supposed to. Does.
>>720616787Digimon are a manifestation of data.Digimon Ghost Game is a good modern starting point if you want to get into digimon.
>>720609358at least it has an actual animation
>>720609209meanwhile pokemons signature attacks >>720611501
>>720593089???
>>720617192TOOOOOOO SAVE THE DIIIGGIIITTAAALLLLworld
>>720617629https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWfxg0_XgdE
>>720606387jej
>>720601423>”Yeah so anyways I purchased the Mega Raichu DLC for 20 shekels.”
>>720616486No lore in survive really means anything. Its just a fun take on the concept that is Digimon. If youre interested in lore then pick up the materials like Digimon Chronicle X or the animes because none of the games have anything that matters. Theyre just light expansions on broad ideas like>Royal Knights and Seven Demon Lords being major groups>Yggdrasil and Homeros being the host computers of different Digital World serversWho dont even always show up in media. Hell the only Digimon lore that really matters when you get down to it is that Digimon dont actually ever die,they can evolve in different ways and also have human Partners. The rest the setting can make up.>>720616787Digimon are digital lifeforms. Reason why they look so varied is because part of how they come into being is that pieces of data amass and sometimes one aspect is more prominant than another. For example Tail/Gatomon is obviously cat inspired. Angewomon and LadyDevimon are clearly fetish females and Numemon has germ influence.
>>720617648/v/ unironically believes Double Kick is the only move in Sword and Shield.
>>720617629No, retard.
>>720580107>>720580294>>720580673Yeah, but does Digimon have this?
>>720617320>>720617972So digimon basically are deviantart galleries that somehow became sentient? Do they teleport from computers to the real world or real people teleport to the virtual world? Or is like in yugioh where the monsters are advanced holograms of drawings that sometimes become "too real" and ancient spirits sealed in cards?
>>720617781>All Z moves>Theres only 25 of those when the roster is well over 100Also isnt Sun/Moon a pretty old ass game that is also on a handheld? I think some of the point is that despite moving to consoles Pokemon doesnt look like one. Instead it looks like a gacha game... Which is ironic because Pokemon Masterd imo looks pretty decent.
>>720617972oh yeah digimon chronicle X, i heard that this is a better explained version of that movie X evolution. i hope i can find it translated (the comic, not the movie)
>>720618360There are generic z-moves all pokemon can use and 25 exclusive ones.>Also isnt Sun/Moon a pretty old ass game that is also on a handheld? I think some of the point is that despite moving to consoles Pokemon doesnt look like oneNo Anon is arguing that Xerneas using one of the generic ones is what all the signature moves look like.
>>720606784You know exactly if Nintendo would port a 10 year old Pokemon and release it on Steam it would get a few 100k players.
>>720580107Digimon wonPalworld won
>>720618951Sh…SHUT THE FUCK UP
>digimon refuses to make a renamon game>pokemon refuses to make a gardevoir gamewhy do they hate free money?
>>720602081Dragon Quest, I think?
>>720618996Eevee fuckers are shilled to all the time. Gardevoir fuckers are a tiny minority.
>>720618951Wasn't one of the big gacha companies working in a monster-taming game too?
>>720618314All of what you mentioned are scenarios for Digimon.
>>720619091Mihoyo is, makers of Geshin
>>720603538Monster raising games are about the monsters If you can't get invested in making the numbers go up on your favorite critters, there's not much else point
>>720582567There's no day 1 dlc like that you digifaggot.
>>720611741>Regardless, that's inevitable in an rpg with so many models.And yet it's only an issue when pokemon does it despite having more unique models to deal with
>>720593469It's not, they've announced a full expansion called the "mega dimension".Ironically it's Digimon with the day one dlc for individual monsters and to make matters worse it's preorder dlc meaning there's a chance they won't be available in game like Guilmon isn't in Survive.
>>720619403The criticism for Pokemon in the thread has been twofold, but neither of them is that one. The first is that their animations are low effort garbage most of the time, and the second is that they have far less animations for various things in battle than even a series with way less renown and budget. It is also not at all disingenuous to hold a bigger company with more resources to a higher standard.
>>720580107What Digimon game is this?
so what does protect do in time stramger? all it gets is a lock but for what?
so is digislop like an actual good game and shit or is it just discount store pokemonI never heard of it before an turns out it has like 20 games or somethingwhat's up with thatI know that pokemon has a death grip on the childhood of most millennials in europe and the us but I mean surely pokemon fucking it up even more and getting lazier and complacent over time will force people to look elsewhere (see palworld etc), right?
>>720619894So you don't accidently feed it or turn it into money, and probably to prevent it from selected for fusions later on
>>720619758>animation for entering fight out of pokeball>idle animation>physical attack animation>special attack animation>sometimes a third miscellaneous attack animation>sometimes a signature attack>fainting animation>form changesWhat does Cyber Sleuth have that Pokemon is missing exactly?
>>720619758>but neither of them is that one.Anon, not only have you ignored the posts in the thread where peooke are criticising pokemon for just that but you're doing it in this very post while making the erroneous claim that pokemon has less animations despite having more unique animations than Digimon in battle.Where Digimon is just>attack>critical>skill>unique>damagedPokemon is>attack>attack 2>special 1>special 2>status>damaged>faint>It is also not at all disingenuous to hold a bigger company with more resources to a higher standard.It very much is, especially when they have access to a similar bank of resources when it comes to animations and such, that said Digimon has far more recolors and can cut more corners than pokemon can as you can see by CS and Time Stranger. Also Media.Vision only has about 50 less employees than Gamefreak so that's a fairly moot point, of course if you want to make the TPC argument you'd have to also do the same with Bamco as a whole.Basically, it's a very obvious double standard.
>>720620314why can't they just have two teams that do the animation for the attacks and conditions it just seems Gamefreak doesn't want to do because they are lazy plus the fact that they're literally being propped up by a billion-dollar corporation and you tell me they can't just have a separate team that can make animations for the attacks
>>720620089ah i see. thanks
>>720619931>so is digislop like an actual good game and shit or is it just discount store pokemonIt depends. The World games offer interesting gameplay. The Story games kind of do play like discount pokemon to be frank.
>>720580107>soul vs forced soul
>>720620535You're asking questions that could either be applied to literally every monster tamer or were answered in the post you replied to anon.
>>720620535>why can't they just have two teams that do the animation for the attacks and conditions it just seems Media.Vision doesn't want to do because they are lazy plus the fact that they're literally being propped up by a billion-dollar corporation and you tell me they can't just have a separate team that can make animations for the attacksThere, now your post applies to Digimon.
>>720620559so which one is the game in opI wanted to try world, are the earlier emulated entries good or... ?
>>720620559both are just turn based rpgs if you hate those then it's a skip for you
>>720620959Time Stranger is Story, might be good though we'll see. World 1 is considered one of the best Digimon games so give it a try.
>>720620314iirc Pokemon SVwalkentry landingidle (a few pokemon also have a more idle animations)physicalspecial attack / buffs / status moves / enemy switch roaring animationdamagedfaint (most go back into the ball before touching the floor)Signature attack (only very few pokemon actually have one)other unique animations (form changes)iirc Digimon CSwalkidleattackspecial attack / buffing / status roaring animationsignature (the average rookie/champions have about the same effort as pokemon's signatures, ultimates and up have more effort) (everyone has a signature attack)damagedfaint (they actually fall to the floor)win pose (everyone has a unique win pose, these are also quite detailed)Pokemon should have more total animations but if you compare quality CS has more quality animations than SV. People expect a higher standard from Pokemon because it's a multi billion dollar franchise, while Digimon is a dead in the water just living franchise. Gamefreak practically only has one game series to put out (until 2026) while Bamco has tons of series to put budget into over Digimon. The digimon games have never been big hits while every mainline Pokemon game makes bank, there's no double standard they aren't even comparable in terms of financial gain. The comparisons and shitposting between franchises is annoying but CS animations have a lot more effort put into them on average for a low budget game.
>>720620278A Soul.
>>720622287>Pokemon should have more total animationsFor what else? What's not covered?
>>720622912The SV pokes have extra idle animations when you just stand around, a few of these are used in battles as the cheering/roaring animation, but there are small unique animations of them looking around/doing stuff. https://youtu.be/PmCOZr_ncuoThese are nice additions, I'm not gonna hate GF for these. I don't remember if CS had any more types of animations, so the total amount of animations per pokemon should be higher. Maybe if you want to be really specific and break up the digimon signature attacks/win poses into parts
>>720622287Okay you clearly don't know what you're talking about so let's take your lists and fix them>walk>Run>entry landing>idle (a few pokemon also have a more idle animations)>physical>physical 2>special attack >status movesThey use different animations and buffing moves are just status moves>enemy switch roaring animationI don't even know what you meant by this>damaged>crit damaged>faint >Signature attack >out of battle sleeping animations>out of battle unique animations ie Sprigatito grooming itself, and Florgato doing yoyo tricks, every pokemon has at least two. CS>walk A solid chunk don't actually have these since the majority float>idle>attack>special attack / buffing / status roaring animation>signature Many of these are reused for recolors>damaged>faint/crit damage >win pose >Pokemon should have more total animations but if you compare quality CS has more quality animations than SVNot only does pokemon have more animations, something you tried to hide by combining some like special attacks and buffs, but they're of a higher quality than CD as a whole being more fluid and flowing in and out of idle animations better where Digimon has to cut away.>Gamefreak practically only has one game series to put out (until 2026) while Bamco has tons of series to put budget into over DigimonMoot point when pokemon is a multimedia series and several times larger than most of Bamco's franchises combined. Also, comparing Media.Vision's and gamefreak's output between 2015, when CS first released and now it's 8 games to 12 respectively, technically 13 because beast of reincarnation is currently being worked on.
>>720580107Only one of these series delivers what fans really want.
>>720618163Yeah and in creature form while still being a game about the creatures and not humans like Pokemon.
>>720580107why is the shadow and lighting on this so good?that shits so rare these days
>>720624251Fair I did forget the slow walk/sleeping ones, some pokemon use the status move one as their special one too so I did forget about that, but are you going to pretend all the floating pokemon don't count too>I don't even know what you meant by thisWhen you knock a mon out or they swap, your guy does a little cheer animation, this one is used as the status move animation/special attack animation for some mons. >Many of these are reused for recolorsThe recolors are a minority, the rest still have unique signature attacks and win poses.Pokemon have more total animations but they all very simple. Even if you hate the cut away from Digimon's signature attacks let's not get ahead of ourselves.>Moot point when pokemon is a multimedia series and several times larger than most of Bamco's franchises combinedYes Pokemon has budget that dwarfs Bamco's entire catalogue that's the point. Mediavision does not have access to the same bank
>>720624386Here's your franchise ambassador, bro.
>>720626476>Yes Pokemon has budget that dwarfs Bamco's entire catalogue that's the point. not true, most pokemon budget went to merchandising and anime. Game division eats peanuts in comparison.
>>720580107Pokemon devs have been phoning it in since gen 3, why would they start putting out anything of decent quality now? They don't need to put out a good product to sell millions.
>>720627416>since gen 3,You mean the generation where they rehauled and perfected the entire game? That's phoning it in to you?How do you even like any game if your standards are b that absurdly high?
>>720627416Let's be honest anon, you don't want a good game.
You can kinda see digimons shrink when the go from "follow" mode to "ride" modei wonder how big Whamon will be
>>720628179gen 3 was the gen where they couldn't even be bothered to keep pokemon/locations/features from the previous game. They cut so much content it was ridiculous, it was pure laziness
>>720608868>Make the default clothes super-goofy to push people to buy the dlc clothesevil
>>720628487>gen 3 was the gen where they couldn't even be bothered to keep pokemon/locations/features from the previous gameAnon, literally every pokemon was in RS, that's why you could still trade older pokemon from FRLG and Emerald into it. If you're going to be pedantic about not being able to find them in a game then that honor would go to Gen 2 to begin with since there were several mon you couldn't obtain without the gen 1 games.As for locations, it's a sequel, it's supposed to have new locations. Applying your logic to any other sequel then they're all bad. Sonic 2 and 3 are now bad because there's no Green Hill Zone for instance or if you're going for monster tamers specifically SMT 3 is bad because it doesn't take place in the same Tokyo as the previous games.And features, gen 3 added more features than it "removed" and that was pretty much just day and night and purely the graphics rather than actual events tied to time since they still existed.tl;dr You don't have any real standards for video games.
>>720628993>Anon, literally every pokemon was in RS, that's why you could still trade older pokemon from FRLG and Emerald into it.not on release. you clearly weren't around at the time
>>720580107>tiny GreymonThat just looks weird as fuck
>>720628487>every pokemon to date was in the game>entirely new area with more varied locals and even overworld weather and it was bigger than the previous game>rehauled stat system, natures, abilities, secret bases, contests, berry farming mechanics.>more effort put into it than gen 2 is considered less.Jesus fucking christ
>>720629174they weren't in the game on release. you clearly didn't have to live it
>>720629039>not on releaseOf course it was on release. Believe it or not there was a time when games couldn't be patched and GBA games couldn't so all of those pokemon were on the cart the day it launched, you could even use something like an action replay and xploder to spawn them in.
>>720629228Yes they were you fucking retard otherwise you wouldn't be able to trade them in from Colosseum.You zoomers are such fucking dipshits.
>>720629278if you're resorting to "you could have just used an action replay" I think the point being made is clear
>>720629357colosseum wasn't out when rs was released you retard
>>720629363Whatever point you think you're trying to make, you aren't.You're trying to make the claim that they weren't in those games as if they were removed when in reality they were all put in new sprites, abilities and stats and all.It's a moot point to go>B-but you needed to trade you couldn't get them at launch!Because that's not what this argument is about.
>>720593089both don't connect the hit.
>>720629636>Because that's not what this argument is about.lmao because of course you're the one that gets to unilaterally choose what an argument with another person is about, it's not like someone else might be involved in the conversation or anything. Why even bother talking to people online if that's the case, you might as well just simulate the arguments you want to have while talking to yourself in the mirrorfact is that when you bought r/s on release and took the game home, that shit was missing 180 pokemon
>>720629865>because of course you're the one that gets to unilaterally choose what an argument with another person is about, it's not like someone else might be involved in the conversation or anythingYou're the one who made the argument in the first place, moving the goalposts after the fact doesn't change the fact that this is your argument I'm abiding by.>fact is that when you bought r/s on release and took the game home, that shit was missing 180 pokemonAnd if you read this post >>720628487>gen 3 was the gen where they couldn't even be bothered to keep pokemon/locations/features from the previous gameYou can see that was not the argument. They clearly kept the pokemon in.
>>720630083they weren't in the game, no amount of coping about action replay is going to change that
>>720630083I guarantee that anon would get butthurt about gen 2 killing pokemania because it was so shit
>>720630539pokemania wasn't gonna last forever, not sure it's fair to say gen 2 killed it. would be crazy to expect zero regression to mean
>>720618996>digimon refuses to make a renamon gameRenamon fags are not digimon fags as proven by the DRB poll>gardevoirIt's popular with autistic furries who want to fuck it and women who are also into other cute mons a gardevoir focused game is pointless...and Kantomons are more popular anyway.
>>720630857>not sure it's fair to say gen 2 killed itIt definitely killed it. It didn't slow down and fade like fads normally do, it hit a brick wall between the release of gs and crystal.And back then people would just talk about how boring and gimmicky the game felt
>>720631153where I was g/s was a big hit, at least with all the kids at school, but I grew up in Japan maybe things were different overseas
>>720631153>it hit a brick wall between the release of gs and crystalNta but the universal reaction to Crystal was “I already have Gold/Silver”
>>720609209From what I remember from Cybersluts each Digimon has a unique animation for their normal attacks and another three for their physical, elemental and support skill.Those are much simpler than their signature but that is still 5 different animations per digimon.
>>720580107I'm done with Pigkemon
Seriously. How can Pokemon compete to modern Digimon games?
>>720631881Being the top grossing media franchise in the world is probably a little more important than their games being shit.
>>720631676That's also less than pokemon and SMT.
>>720631881By the sheer numbers of the pokemon fanbase and the greater general reach/appeal. Most people do not care about the things people complain about so long as the game doesn't look like complete abhorrent shit and they get to play with their favourite mons.
>>720631881By having a better roster and maps.Onky lil' zoom zooms still think that graphics matter.
>>720580107So can I date waifus in this game? That will decide if I play it or not.
>>720631881Graphics aside pokemon is generally a better game than Digimon is with more pokemon and varied content.
>>720632035>>By having a better roster and maps.So they won't?
>>720620669>>720620619i came back after a few hours and the only response are just whataboutism and excuses reallys says something about /vp/ when this company has the literal money and extra years and still can't model a small city while konami isn't literal nintendo but still are lazy and still manage to make a city with way more effort than a game studio who has a silver spoon in their mouthalso for >>720620619indie monsters tamers aren't blessed like pokemon you know Nintendo biggest seller that everyone knows about because of long time marketing
>>720632092Digimon won't, no.
>>720632138Yes, Pokemon can't compete with Digimon on anything but popularity
>>720617648This got removed in scarlet and violet
>>720580107Pokemonbros, I'm starting to have second thoughts...
>>720632127Of course those are your responses this was your post and literally everything you said can be applied to Digimon.That's not whataboutism, that's pointing out your blatant double standard where everything you're criticising pokemon for is also the best in the entire genre but you're not demanding more of any other series.
>>720631881mainline?>double typing>ability>nature>IV>EV>held items>generational gimmick>uh idk whatever they havepokemon just has more depth than any monster tamer series in the market rn
>>720632219Pretty much guaranteed to come back in Champions though since it’s going back to fixed camera angle battles
>>720631991>Physical, ranged, magical, item, negotiation.Uniques are so few and far between that they shouldn’t even count.The best SMT games don't even have individual animations anyway.
>>720593712>That shitty looking pig thingNot off to a great start I must say.
>>720632176Well except for overall game qualityToy quality which is hilarious given it's bamcoRelease frequency for games and merchSpin offsTCG All Digimon has is the anime.
>>720632364That's still more than Digimon anonAt the absolute most you have>unique>unique 2>attack>skillI don't know why you're not including the crit animations for SMT either so I won't do the same for Digimon.
>>720632425No, just popularity
>>720632425>Well except for overall game qualityDigimon wins.>Toy quality which is hilarious given it's bamcoPokemon wins because its the top grossing media franchise in the world, Pokemon as a brand exists to sell shit like toys and merch.>Release frequency for games and merchPokemon wins because its the top grossing media franchise in the world, Pokemon as a brand exists to sell shit like toys and merch.>Spin offsDigimon wins. >TCGDigimon wins if we're talking about the quality of the game and actually playing it, if you're one of those retards who treats TCGs as a way to gamble and try to make money flipping them then you'd prefer Pokemon because Pokemon is the top grossing media franchise in the world, Pokemon as a brand exists to sell shit like toys and merch and a TCG card is treated as merch.
>>720606825>he actually believes sales = high qualityi thought everyone was just shitposting, turns out its a legit mindset.
>>720581991Oh those are the guys from that stupid season everyone hated
>>720616486i still gotta finish the last two routes, and i've heard at least one of them certainly goes places (wrathful and truthful)
>>720617238so the HM ones?
>>720582559AND THEY SUMMON THEM TO BATTLE@MisterNintendo sue this company into the ground and have them bankrupt this instant!
>>720632271>That's not whataboutism so im going to repeat the same whataboutismyes, it is you stupid shill SHOW me one point on how it's hard for Gamefreak just to hire two teams just to animate moves and building designs >Best in the entire genre and not demanding more of any other seriesalso why are you calling the genre out when they animate shit on their free time without whining about it being so long and hard they actually put effort into their game you're just stuck on being bias because the only monster tamer you like is pokemon and even so 6 years plus & a whole hiatus break is more than enough to make animations for cutscenes and moves>everything is applied to digimonhow is this applied to digimon if everything they made in the game looks nice while pokemon with 6-5 years looks extremely bad just for a small ass town and the only way i would understand your point if this game was the size of gta or mass effect or any game going way beyond 500 gb but pokemon isn't gta it's a monster tamer
>>720627057He's just like me. a true representative.
>defending pokemon >2025wew lad
>>720626258it's not UE5 slop but their own in-house engine. you need people who actually know how the rendering pipeline works.a rarity these days.
>>720633349Same.
>>720633326Nta but I think you’re missing the point, you can say Pokemon should have more animations, but it still has more than any other monster tamer. So if I was judging these games by number of animations, I’d still just be playing Pokemon lol. And this applies to basically anything that isn’t graphics
>>720633174It had both Izumi and Ranamon so it cant be that hated.
>>720633549they literally lazed out and didnt bother making models for balconies they could've modeled them and copy and pasted them on all the buildings but no they literally chose the laziest option and that was the 3rd sign that they pretty much stop caring
>>720633802>anything that isn’t graphicsBtw everyone insisted to me Cyber Sleuth was great and 90% of the explorable environments that I got to before I dropped it were almost identical blue hallways
>>720594874I find this really ironic since when we are living in a time where japanese culture is gobbled up. Heck i 100% bet if they didn't 4kids yokai watch we probably had it where it had a decent fanbase in the west.
>>720633326>SHOW me one point on how it's hard for Gamefreak just to hire two teams just to animate moves and building designs all budgets went to merchs, tcg and anime. You know what they do at TPC.
>>720634071somehow better than wandering around in pokemon where the only thing is modeled is the KeyPoint areas yeah that sounds SO nice but sarcasm aside why would you need open world in a digimon game i think its fine but not really a problem if you're going to have a open world game it all has to look nice instead of just barren wasteland instead haphazardly place plants but the demo for digimon TS was overall 69% despite me not really being interest in digimon time stranger
Digimogs
>>720603261did you even play that game, shit was easier than pokemonall you do is spam health disks and you beat everything unless the game decides to bug out anyway
>>720635181>shit was easier than pokemonyou could beat pokemon just mashing a with your starter until the end, what the fuck are you talking about?
>>720635441I mean not really but even if that were the case, that'd put them at the same levelexcept one of them is way more obtuse in what you have to do to progress, or it's outright impossible because the game version is fucked
>>720632906>Digimon wins.Not at all. If you're judging purely on graphics then only time stranger would win that.Roster size goes to pokemon both games with dlc are night and day with TS having about 500 and Pokemon being above 800.Theres more to battles in pokemon with a larger variety of moves that aren't just same move but stronger like in Digimon not to mention multiple battle modes, even if in modern pokemon games where a few were removed you have 3 whereas Digimon is still just 3 on 3.>Pokemon wins because its the top grossing media franchise in the worldBandai Namco, the owner of Digimon, is the second largest toy maker in the world and make some high quality products, I would know as a model kit slut who buys around, it's rare to see anything of a higher quality than bamco.Digimon toys on the other hand get absolutely shafted for example V-pets still use rubber buttons that wear down quickly and because the models are figure rise they have no inner frame like Gundam and because of the size of the Amped kits they can wear down faster and not hold their poses. >Pokemon wins because its the top grossing media franchise in the world, Anon, it became the top grossing media franchise BECAUSE of that. >Pokemon as a brand exists to sell shit like toys and merch.It's a video game franchise first and foremost, everything else is built up around it. Also you are aware that Digimon is a series that started off AS a toy, right?>Digimon wins.Nope, quality, quantity and variety goes to pokemon for obvious reasons. Digimon spin offs are rare and are of very low quality like Digimon masters for instance.
>>720635614yeah really, people played and beat pokemon before they could even fucking read. its a game designed literally for 5 year old children. just digimons death / rebirth system alone would hard filter kids.
>>720632906>Digimon wins if we're talking about the quality of the game and actually playing itYou need people to be interested in it to play it, even locals tend to not bother with Digimon. That said as a game the Digimon tcg is pretty slow and the art is very generic for Digimon, you won't see a variety of art and styles like you would in pokemon.The sad part is that because of Bandai's tendency to use Digimon as a testing ground the One Piece and Dragonball TCG that came out of the Digimon one improved by leaps and bounds.But look I get it, you're an agitated pokemon fan who never really grew up out of your "graphics" are everything phase. Just keep your nonsense away from Digimon.
>>720633326>it's hard for Gamefreak just to hire two teams just to animate moves and building designsThat's a double standard. If you believe GF can do it why are you demanding more of the one on top and not the one who's doing worse with just as much money that you supposedly like enough to throw a tantrum over?What's worse is that demanding more of the lesser one would also push the better one so you end up with two good products rather the one you hate getting better.
>>720635728nigger what "rebirth system", your thing just dies after a couple hours and then you're back to doing the same shit again with slightly higher statsthe only reason it would filter kids is because they would get fucking bored
Love how the op tries to dunk on Pokeslop but Digislop is even shallower and shittier.
>>720635976>"what rebirth system">explains the rebirth systemYou're one stupid nigger.
>>720636031It's because they don't like Digimon or monster tamers in general. All they know is that they hate pokemon.
>>720636086I mean you're the one thinking that's some deep intricate system, instead of just a total waste of timetouch yo' own damn nose
out of all the shitty franchises in the world, why did pokemon have to become a weird cult
>>720593712I thought Fantasy Life would turn them straight but guess I was wrong
>>720594023you're an obsessed fucking retard if you think inafune had any say on anything
>>720636436Jealousy.People didn't like that pokemon became popular they they formed a cult to shit on it.
>>720606220That's an extremely impressive number for re-release of a game from 2014 released 2019
>>720580107Now add the dialogue
>>720636436Thats just nintendo series in general, weirdo cultists worship nintendo. Like whenever you see those insane people with entire rooms like shrines dedicated to video games its always wall to wall nintendo shit with mario on the walls, floating question mark blocks and they made their tv look like a switch.
Are you into cyborgs or skeletons?
>>720580107How's the game digibros
>>720637383>its always wall to wall nintendo shit with mario on the walls,No it fucking isn't.The common ones are usually figure and toy communities like gunpla for instance. For video games it's usually PlayStation, if you look up Nintendo rooms then it's usually just the same few examples of an avid collector.Hell it was so bad that the last time someone made this argument here they posted a room that turned out to be a themed hotel room.
>>720580107>unsurprising but still disappointing sums up both series.
>>720637560pretty good, Demo had some bugs but the core was good enough to convince me to preorder it cheapest version from a discount site cause fuck paying $70. still was around $60.
>>720580107the new digimon sadly still has some shit gameplay even worse than basic pokemon combatbut I'll definitely play it being a tryhard digifag
>>720617972>Digimon dont actually ever dieTamerbros...
>>720603538digimon fans always cope about how the games are good but the truth is even the worst pokemon game has miles better combat than most digimon gamesLike the combat isnt even as deep as persona, thats how fucking bad it is.
>>720637463I want an Amped Skull Greymon.
>>720638598>Like the combat isnt even as deep as personaI wouldn't go that far.
>>720580107Why the artstyle looks so generic and slop?Why not anime like pokemon or digimon 3-1
>>720638916learn english before you post on this website, shit skin.
>>720638916yeah they should really try to make it look more like generic pokemon slop artstyle
>>720638916Pokemon's modern artstyle is one step away from looking like western corpo slop
>>720637381>Digi: voiced in EN and JP>poke: no voices.Pokemon literally has no excuse. still bought ZA though
>>720638818>I wouldn't go that far.but I wouldthe newest persona even has personal skillsand based on what I played in CS/HM, even something slightly unique effect wise like makarakarn or hyper beam style attacks doesnt exist in digimon games
>>720639359I would say that's a negative for Digimon, the money they wasted on voice actors could have been used on making an actual expansion
>>720633473A very devisive figure
>>720639441you'd be surprised how often having JP only came up as a criticism for earlier digimon games. having English is a major selling point with normies.
>>720638346>but I'll definitely play it being a tryhard digifagSuch is the fate of a digimon fan, we just love being abused by scamco.
>>720639359>still bought ZA thoughIsn't that part of the problem? Why put any effort at all if people are gonna buy it anyway. Just saying...
Will this game FINALLY allow the CANON evolution line for Lilithmon?
>>720638346>I'll definitely play it being a tryhard digifag>>720639359>still bought ZA thoughsums up why both series only improve marginally.Pokemon's approach is to do the bare minimum in one area while cutting back previous improvements.Digimon's approach is try a shallow new system and if it doesn't stick throw out the whole system and try a new shallow system.
>>720580107So I tried out the demo since this is being shilled so much and it's trash. The combat mechanics are so braindead they expect you to 5x autobattle and not give a shit.
>>720633174wait, people hated frontier?
>>720640612The real problem isn't that people are buying it, it's that GF's absolute worst is still leaps and bounds better than the competition.
>>720641353It's the most divisive series of them all
A blurry mess on the left.
>>720641468Even more divisive than young hunters?
>>720580107I like digimon's game way more, but it has dejewvo so fuck bamco.LZA scratches that digimon world combat itch so I'm also looking forward to it. hopefully this will convince bamco to keep evolving its DW1-likes
>>720580107>Slop vs Slop who the fuck cares
>>720619403>And yet it's only an issue when pokemon does itare you taking the piss? a hop for a kick is fucking shameful. not even digimon would do something so retarded.there's jank and then there's outright shitting in the player's face
>>720641468can I get a QRD? what was so divisive about it?I was never deep into the franchise but I did watch the shows and I remember liking it
>>720641834>not even digimon would do something so retarded.You're right. They just did fucking nothing according to you.
>>720641834>are you taking the piss? a hop for a kick is fucking shamefulAs opposed to a spin and chest thrust for a punch?
Can I make a team full of sexy big tit digimon in the digimon game or are they not available?
>>720641868It's mostly the lack of the tamer/mon dynamic since they basically made it power rangers.
>>720639735>waste twice the money recording voices>sales don't doubledo you really think that's a smart move?at least they were smart enough not to pull omakuni this time around. none of the other games have jp text on steam as of yet though
>>720642154that's funny cause that's why I liked it.not that I hated tamer/mon dynamic but I liked that they changed it up and made the tamers turn into the monsno more pepper breath
>>720641868As a person who thinks the first half was GREAT>female is useless>second half is terribly written for many reasons>becomes the koji takuya show>who're these 3 other orbiters following koji and takuya?>youre now watching a show where team rocket are the main characters>koji and takuya spends over 10 episodes fucking getting their ass beat by the royal knights>after they rk dies, they spend the rest of the series getting their ass beat by lucemon>Susanoomon appear... only to get his ass beat for 99% of the fight until susanoo pulls out a one shot out of their ass>Shadowlord mode appear... and beats susanoo again for 99% of the fight till he pulls out a one shot out of his ass againTheyre the definition of jobbers to continuously show how strong the villains are but does it matter when their record is total ass?
Why does Pokemons FemMC have 80s looking pants?
Favorite Pokemon, Digimon, and SMT demon? For me, it's>Magneton>Ghoulmon>Seraph
>>720642641Darmanitan and LiligantUlforce VeedramonKresnik
>>720642097of course not, dejimon is a wokeslop series
>>720642812>censored
>>720641868>one of digimon's core aspects are the bonds and relationships between digimon and chosen kid/tamer/human/whatever and growing. a prominent element is that of human emotions influencing digimon and empowering them to evolve (usually temporarily)>frontier throws all that away and instead presents itself as a sentai series rather than your typical monster show. there are no no partner digimon, and the comic relief digimon don't really count as partners>instead it's the kids who turn into digimon by invoking the spirits of ancient warriors. their wills don't manifest, so it's the kids who do everything, relegating the spirits to acting as transformation trinkets>to rub salt in the wound, the warriors end up thanking the children for their efforts in the very last episode before parting ways, showing that they actually had a consciousness the whole timebtw savers got fucked over by yidsney's buyout of fox kids/jetix>>720641889>>720642080You can't seriously excuse a fucking hop in place for a kick. stadium, an n64 game puts that to shame. you should be ashamed of supporthing this garbage
>>720642427>female is uselessgood!
>>720643015yensid is disney spelled backwards
>>720643015Not those anons but double kick is explicitly programmed to do the hop in place instead of doing the physical attack animation twice, it’s not a matter of them “not animating it” it just does that to be funny
>>720642918>became canon anyway because japs loves her so much
>>720642461Because you can't touch this. MY VIDYA HITS ME SO HARDMAKES ME SAY, OH ARCEUSTHANK YOU FOR BLESSING US WITH PIKACHU AND MERCH TO PROMOTEA SUPER DOPE GAME SERIES FROM GAMEFREAKAND THIS IS A GAME, UH, YOU CAN'T TOUCHI TOLD YOU DIGIFAGS, YOU CAN'T TOUCH THISHIGHEST GROSSING FRANCHISE IN THE WORLD, YOU CAN'T TOUCH THISLOOK AT OUR SALES, MAN! YOU CAN'T TOUCH THISYO, LET ME BUST A POKERAP, YOU CAN'T TOUCH THISFRESH NEW SWITCH AND GAMEWE GOTTA LOTTA HYPE AND YOU KNOW THEY'RE SELLOUT THE SAMECOPIES WILL MOVE OUTTA THE SHELVESAND ALL THE TENDIES GONNA ENJOY THEMSELVESWE LET THEM DIGIFAGS KNOW WE'RE TOO MUCHPOKEMON IS A FRANCHISE THEY CAN'T TOUCH
>>720643015>You can't seriously excuse a fucking hop in place for a kickWould you rather a hop or every single animation for a skill being the exact same.
>>720643749plenty of pokemon do the same animation for many attacksboth games do the same thing
>>720644240You can't read, can you.
>>720644240NTA but there's a difference between having six animations for different attacks and having three.
>>720640859No. Only half of those are in the game and Angewomon doesn't evolve into Lilithmon here
>>720642641SkarmoryBlackWarGreymonThunderbird
>>720644380>meanwhile in the universe where Pokemon have 6 attack animations>”there’s a difference between Pokemon having 6 attack animations and having 9”
>>720644510
>>720642641Tied between Galvantula and VolcaronaAndiramon (virus)Chernobog
>>720644595What are you even trying to say here?
>>720580107Never compare Pokemon with Digiflop
>>720642641MismagiusWitchmonTiamat
>>720644781It’s a goalpost you can move endlessly, every Pokemon can use every move so there will always be unfitting animations. There is very little reason for them to go through every monster in the roster and add a “kick” animation separate from the physical attack animations, and then with Cinderace the regular physical attack animation is a kick anyway; it not kicking has nothing to do with lack of an animation for it
>>720645059So basically instead of addressing the argument you decided to pull some kind of weird strawman.
>>720645427No? My argument was to demonstrate that at a certain point they were always going to stop and accept that some animations will not be fitting. They’re not gonna add a special “kicking” animation for a handful of mons that have kick moves and don’t kick for their physical attack animation. Like wtf does Tyranitar using low kick look like?
>>720643286I love how malleable Digimon is where even censorship can become canon.
>>720644954pokemon has been garbage since xy. gf's incompetence has proven that they don't have what it takes to bring the series to the next level
>>720645843and what exactly is supposed to be "the next level"?
>>720645948a proper home console release. at least something like colosseum at the minimumconsidering what we got instead it's painfully clear the series should have stayed in the GBA/DS
