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Why they have to kill her off first? Also danganronpa thread.
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>>>/vg/539021276
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Because the writers are hacks. Having the detective be the murderer is one of the laziest and cheapest subversions of detective fiction utilized by amateurs.
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>>720593047
Because Kodaka thinks women don't deserve to be protagonists.
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>>720593894
>the detective
Shuichi is the detective. If you're the type of person who calls the protag in a mystery story "the detective" even if they aren't one...
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>>720593047
>>720593989
The V3 remake is going to have Kaede as the protagonist for real.
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>>720593989
Komaru…
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>>720594048
>Shuichi is the detective
No, he's the Watson. Kaede is the POV character whom the player follows in action and thought, and who investigates the crime scene and establishes theories.
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>>720594253
Danganronpa's entire premise was made because Kodaka thought one of "muh pure mystery rules" was retarded. What you're saying has no relevance to the series' intention.
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Hope your happy bro.
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>>720594354
>no relevance to the series' intention.
The intention is retarded. That's what I'm saying.
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>>720593894
is the new game being made by that hack? i will not financially support some worm crawling back after his other shit games failed
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>>720593047
Because Saihara is more likable than "miss perfect Karen but clumsy waifu bait slut #3992" to me at least.
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>>720593894
I AM THE ORIGAMI KILLER SHAUN
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>>720594253
>"Kaede is the POV character whom the player follows in action and thought"
>Entire first murder relies on unreliable narrator trope
LOL ok

>*Get photos of the murder back from the Monokubs*
>Kaede's inner monologue ("Huh? Why isn't the killer in the photos?)
Bitch, it's you! Why would you even think this if not to lie directly to the player? She has zero reason to believe it'd be anyone else, considering she set the whole thing up.
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>>720594418
kek
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>>720593047
>Skips 1
>Kill all the 100line momentum
>Blows the fuck out of cuckhara
lmao based
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>>720594058
Nah its gonna be Maki(one of kodakas fav officially). Or a double protagonist game with Shuichi and Maki together like Makoto and Kyouko
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>>720594726
He's gonna team up with Makoto and stop the killing games for good after this game which makes Hajimeh the main villain in the end.
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>>720594617
This is true, and he's not particularly likable, either. But Kaede is basically Pathos: The Character.
It also just makes more gameplay sense to be playing as the Ultimate Detective.

One of the reasons DR1's so bad is because you're forced to play as The Ultimate Retarded Middle-Man while Kyoko says nothing, otherwise there'd be no gameplay.
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>>720594967
I like saihara because hes like Peter Parker and actually grows and chsnges with the people he wants to solve the game with instead of being a automatic beacon of hope like the previous protags.
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Everyone loves Kaede.
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>>720595362
Kaedead more like kaedeadest
Even her VA is gone
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>Shuichi's growth is to face the truth no matter how hard it may be
>Shuichi in the epilouge: "I refuse to believe we voluntarily signed up for this because that's too icky"
Great character arc
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>>720595567
It's anime writing. What do you expect?
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>>720593047
That early twist and the ending twist are the only remarkable things about the whole game.
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Can't wait too see what he does in 2x2
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>>720594907
More Izuru? Im in.
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>>720595664
It's just kind of sad when Shuichi is so celebrated for his growth when he ends up defaulting back to his original tendencies in the epilouge. Says a lot about the quality of writing in Danganronpa when this is considered the best developed character
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>>720595362
>fat belly ruins this for me
>Fat needs to be centered on butt
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>>720594418
That fag was so annoying. 4chan really needs a report option for people who make duplicate threads.
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>>720593047
Cause she is blonde white girl.
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>>720595362
Saihara is a lucky man or would be if she didnt die.
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ugly art style
horrible character designs
unlikable and annoying personalities
not even a real video game
all danganautists should just kill themselves
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>>720596048
>She's a Asian fake blonde

The true despair
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>>720596194
The deltratroon thread is two blocks down
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>>720595763
same. knowing kodaka it's gonna be great.

the impostor has some fun potential, if they want to keep him a joke character they can even do something absurd where he kills someone and takes their place. so you get a layer of dramatic irony where the player can see it's obviously him from the weight, but the cast are all oblivious because his disguise is so good in-lore.
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>>720595876
more images like this, waiter.
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>>720593989
but udg is the best danganronpa game?
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>>720595763
He'll kill Hajime
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What did the Manlet mean by this?
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I meditated for 20 minutes and looked into the deepest pits of my heart to find out which dangangirl is my true and only waifu and I've reached the conclusion that it is Himiko
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>>720596590
He's not lying here
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>>720594617
>>720596164
>Saihara
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>>720596590
his entire character is about lying and causing mischief. he's saying tenko because he knows if you try something with her she'll beat the shit out of you.
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Was the writing in 53 bad on purpose? Cause it's a shitty tv show that's gone on too long and the writers hate the fans?
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>>720596989
yep it's actually brilliant
they're satirizing series that have gone on too long and run out of ideas
so things like the monokubs and the plot motives making no sense? they're actually foreshadowing how it's a show that's way past its prime
kodaka is actually a genius
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>>720596989
yes it's a giant middle finger to fans from a hack writer who thought he was a genius for using some extremely common anime twists in DR1 and DR2
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>>720597092
>he's an actual NPC
rumao
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>>720596720
Then why did Tenko wear the shortest skirt in the entire series? You can literally see her ass from the front
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>>720597561
her master taught her wrong, as a joke
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>>720597561
that sprite on the right gave me a nightmare once. not even kokichi's creeped me out as much as that one
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What are the chances 2x2 has a love hotel? The fact that V3 strongly implied sex and Hundred Line out right has sex and impregnation tells me Kodaka won't miss taking advantage of the most popular cast of characters he's ever created
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>>720593989
Based, in tired of female protagonists getting forced into everything
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I want to impregnate Ibuki while she left locks me
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>>720597561
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>>720597850
>Tenko wears the shortest skirt in danganronpa so Tenko 2.0 doesn't even wear one
Bravo Kodaka
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so kodaka can basedface irl and be like "wow I made the protagnist the murderer. aren't I clever??"
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>>720597821
Bazed. Fuck female MC's. Gimme my male mc. Gimme my sexy CGs. Don't want dogshit like shuten shit order.

>>720597746
Impossible.
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>>720597713
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>>720597746
That's what the boat house is.
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>>720593989
>>720593047
I assume because her boobs were too big which would make ugly femcels jealous, and she was killed for being too cheerful etc too problematic

Characters like this are always punished with horrible fates
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I want to play as the hot girl
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I want to play as a guy.
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>>720597561
because tenko projects her lustful nature on men to try and make herself seem not as perverted in comparison
kokichi is a shitter but there usually is a kernel of truth in his words
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2-5 was so good
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>Please note that all rights to this title belong to Spike Chunsoft, so any questions, requests, or support should be directed to them, not to me....

Kodaka-san....
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>>720597713
yeah I never understood what the face is even truly meant to represent. it's like, disgust, but also smug, but also anger, but also a few other things?
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>>720597746
you already get their panties for maxxing out friendship, and Kodaka has only gotten more degenerate over time, so it's very likely there's some form of coomer teasing even if it's not specifically a love hotel.
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>>720598347
don't you fucking dare call my waifu tenko 2.0
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>>720593047
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>>720598813
But anon, femcels adore Kaede.
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>>720597746
MAN'S
NUT
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You have until the game's release date to APOLOGIZE to Akane for calling her a meat loving retard
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>>720599738
Why do people keep calling her a brocon? It's normal for a sister to have sex with her brother! She doesn't love him romantically he's just the father of her children is all
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>>720597561
She's too dumb to piece together that wearing a short that skirt means people are going to look at her legs. She is not asking for it wearing that Kokichi just wants to see you get kicked in the head.
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>>720600121
she's still going to be a meat loving retard.
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please save the useless DR2 characters that got zero characterization
nekomaru
sonia
akane
ibuki
souda
please unretard them and give them good story relevance/moments
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>>720600121
I still wonder what made them turn Owari from what was probably someone with an antagonistic disposition to... canon Owari.
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>>720600292
sure, until she murders teruteru for some meat on the bone in chapter 4
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>>720593047
i dropped the game when the whiney guy was revealed to be the real protagonist. Stupid as fuck.
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>>720600518
ON
THE
BONE
MEAT
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>>720600452
I would unironically bet highly that souda and sonia will both die in a chapter, souda has that big crush on sonia and that is a perfect opportunity to twist into a situation where one kills the other in an early chapter to instantly change up the cast dynamics for the rest of the story.
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>>720600452
they will be earlygame casualties and you will like it
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>>720600452
Reminder that Ibuki did NOTHING WRONG and died just because
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>>720593047
I think it was fine. They were 3 games in and needed to do something fresh and having the player character actually be the killer was interesting. It's just funny that everyone was jerking off over having a female protagonist and then she almost immediately dies.
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>>720600452
and also please give the interesting DR2 characters who died before their story arcs could get going some more time to shine
byakuya
mahiru
hiyoko

and then finally give the overrepresented characters some early deaths
nagito
chiaki
gundham
fuyuhiko
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>>720600160
Didnt expect to see porn of them
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>>720595763
Still dies because he's FAT
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>>720600704
Literally everyone did NOTHING WRONG and died just because
>>720600790
>Didn't expect porn of two main characters who are siblings
Uhh
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>>720600794
>he doesn't get murdered, he just has a heart attack
imagine
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>>720600452
>sonia
>akane
>souda
Probably all dead by the end of chapter 2
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>>720600452
As whiny as Souda is, the guy is unironically useful as fuck.
>fixed the lights during chapter 1
>fixed the radio the groups used to keep in touch during chapter 3
>fixed the elevator during chapter 4
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>>720600790
Is bro serious
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>>720600452
>>720600635
>>720600912
>>720600923
>souda
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>>720600923
he may be useful but he had no characterization above "wants sonia"
there's a chance to give him motivations besides that, something that drives him to kill, or makes him two dimensional
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>2x2
>so it implies it's a sequel
>but that's the plot twist from V3, why would they use it again
>also we already know the plot twist of 2 which is VERY restrictive on what you can do with the story
...I genuinely have no idea what to think.
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>>720600780
I'm like 90% positive Chiaki isn't dying. Killing her three times would be crazy and they'll probably use this to finally give her a happy ending.
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>>720600992
the fact that v3 happened means literally anything could happen in 2
it could be another simulation, or it could be danganronpa season 22
the future foundation can show up
team danganronpa can show up
shuichi and maki can show up
fuck it the hundred line cast can show up
anything is possible now and that's what's fun
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>>720600992
The question is if we're getting new characters
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Just kill Kazuichi and execute Hiyoko early on and I'm happy
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If Monokuma threatened to kill Makoto unless Kyoko, Sayaka or Aoi stripped completely naked in front of Makoto, would they do it or not do it?
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>>720600452
>loves horror movies
>has military training
>stereotypical princess but hints of being weird underneath
Sonia will be a killer
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>I can use my Danganronpa reaction folder from 2016 again
Great.
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>>720601087
>shuichi, maki, and himiko land on the island
how many layers of fuckery would be going on if that happened
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>>720601142
At least let Hiyoko get some character development before she's killed again.
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>>720601189
turning her into a person who would just murder without being brainwashed or forced into it would be a little interesting
approved. make her the chapter 1 culprit.
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>>720601249
i knew it was a good idea to save my folder from all those years ago
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>>720601087
These are your contestants for season 2102
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The entire cast of DR2 canonically survives the game. I wonder what they're going to change so that new scenario still has some excitement.
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>>720601342
KEK I remember when the Izuru episodes dropped and the threads were just "MEMES MEMES MEMES"
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>>720601267
i imagine this being DR54 and they become terrorists to break the cast out of the truman show
so they could show up in the last trial instead of makoto/kyoko
would be insane and kind of dumb, but i think i'd be for it just to see more of the survivor trio
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>>720601189
honestly the main reason why she doesn't is because she's generally away from a lot of the nonsense that's going on in the first half and is coping with the situation in the second
she easily could be an early chapter killer
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>>720601409
Simple. They have all their despair mode on and escape that way.
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>>720601358
I feel like there's some joke here I'm not getting
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>>720593894
It was cool when Agatha Christie did it. But yes nowadays it's kind of a hack move.
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>>720601427
izuru was a walking meme the second he showed up
it was as great as it was ass
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Mahiru will kill Fuyuhiko
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>>720601358
Neat-haired Mikan unnerves me. But leaving that aside, Peko looks so fucking good with a ponytail.
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With Danganronpa you can literally make up the most retarded fanfiction ever and it can actually become true
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>>720600992
it's called 2x2 because 2x2=4 and it's 2 but also a new game that will start the same as 2. they can't just call it 4 because the major twist of V3 is that it wasn't Danganronpa 3, it would be a betrayal to V3 to refer to the next entry as 4.
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>>720601358
chiaki and mahiru look pretty good with the alt hairstyles
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>>720601342
>>720601538
Based memelords
Share your folder
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How would you feel about Nagito being the protag of 2x2?
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>>720599182
>Also buy Hundred Line you gaijin fucks

Classic Kodaka, what a great guy!
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You've been chosen as a participant for IRL Danganronpa. What's your plan?
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>>720601545
would be too obvious
god damn i'm kinda excited to soon have mysteries that i can go into unspoiled and make theories about
not just do detective deduction stuff but also play mind games against kodaka, what would he do, what wouldn't he do
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>>720601646
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>>720601538
The only saving grace DR3 had was the massive shitposting.
>>720601545
>the one character that canonically still feels guilty over a friend of hers killing someone else for her sake
Nah.
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>unboobifies your chiaki
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>>720601646
it was a simpler time back in 2016
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>>720601672
lock myself in my room and never come out except for trials
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>>720601719
>The only saving grace DR3 had was the massive shitposting.
And this ending, I love it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyx1CdZ4Y3s
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>>720601719
it was the dumbest shit and i wouldn't trade that experience with /a/ for anything
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>>720601131
without a doubt, kodaka is not going to be lazy. they might not show up right away, but it's inevitable he tries to pull a curveball that introduces new characters or drastically changes the existing ones.

my dream scenario would be the shenanigans you pull end up aborting the program, so the remnants wake up in their pods, and because Kodaka says so Monokuma is there and makes the insane fucked up Remnant versions of the cast participate in the killing game since they didn't end it when they ended the simulation.
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>>720601672
Unironically just hiding out in my room. The less involved you get with the MC the better. If I have to get involved with others just to not raise the death flag then I carry a weapon with me at all times and never listen to any character's advice.
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>>720601672
Be useless so I either die first or survive to the end.
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>>720601850
Oh god that image
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>>720601657
Would rather have Chiaki as the MC.
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>>720601850
Oh right I forgot about the anime thing
Everyone was dooming Kodhacka was going to pull a "it's actually all an anime"
he sorta did with V3 LMAOOOO
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>>720601818
>You know why
No seriously what did he mean by this? Our boy Juzo deserved better.
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>>720601672
Never go out at night.
Always be in a group of 3 people at minimum.
Don't do stupid shit.
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>>720601709
I hope Hajime edits make a return with 2x2
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>Shit we need money quick
>Uhhhhh let's recycle and remix our most popular entry for full price!
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>>720601142
Hiyoko is realistically either going to be a survivor this time or end up being a murderer herself in like ch4 or 5. the steam page says there are new culprits and victims, and knowing Kodaka the very 1st thing he said about the project was "lets give every single character a different fate, the victims can't be victims again".

the early deaths are bound to be some of the original survivors, because they need things to play out differently this time. it kinda defeats the point of making this 2nd game with the cast if they don't drastically change the roles people are playing.
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>>720602007
Why not now?
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>>720602029
who are you quoting, every movie and game studio executive in the last 15 years?
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>>720593047
i never finished UDG. should i bother to?
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>Makoto's bare butt was shown in the Danganronpa 1 anime and Nagito's bare butt was shown in the Danganronpa 3 anime
>female danganronpa character's butts are either wearing towels or covered with steam.

Why?
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>>720602000
>Always be in a group of 3 people at minimum.
Good job, now you are a Chapter 3 victim.
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>>720601824
The early part of the Despair Arc was so good
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>>720602034
'Meat The Bone On' man is still dying, no one cares for him.
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>>720602000
This plus make sure everyone agrees to always be in a group of 3 and if they don't they're the obvious immediate suspect if anything happens.
So many isolated location murder mystery would be resolved so much more easily if people just played it safe. Granted in Danganronpa there's no time limit so it's understandable why people would get antsy and start disrespecting rules, plus you have Monokuma to make sure things don't get boring.
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>>720602061
Not really. The game itself doesn't improve and feels like a cheap RE4 clone. It's only worth it if you want more DR story.
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>>720602090
>Don't do stupid shit
I'm not getting SEE-SAW'D
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>>720602089
cause the girls all get in-game fanservice
i've seen mahiru's pussy and titties
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>>720602119
Hope so, faggot had a good role at being the killer but that's it
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>>720594687
I like to believe that she had a bit of an oh fuck moment between the body discovery and seeing the photos.
>see rantaro is dead, okay cool i killed the mastermind
>monokuma shows up, game continues as normal
>okay maybe the mastermind killed rantaro
>see photos, why is there no killer in them
>oh fuck, i guess i did kill rantaro
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Characters so overdesigned it makes vivzieslop easy on the eyes.
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>>720601672
Do something really dumb halfway into the season to spice it up then get myself killed.
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>>720601672
Don't go outside at night
BOOM 80+% survival rate
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>>720602034
>yfw culprits just end up as victims
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>>720596720
He's right though, despite being a super feminist her fantasy is having a man best her in combat and then having his way with her
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>>720594726
>>Kill all the 100line momentum
DLC? Already confirmed.
Prequel stories? Being written.
Game? A success.
Danganronpa? Currently only cared about by schizophrenics.
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>>720601286
I'd expect Soda is going to hit on her and things will get awkward and she's going to either get fed up or accidentally kill him and have to cover it up.

My actual prediction for ch1 trial is more insane but it's the sort of shakeup I expect from Kodaka because he loves tossing curveballs: All we know about the new route is that it starts with Nagito and Hajime exploring alone together at night to look at that boat, right? Well in the base game, Nagito actually tries to be the first killer but Teruteru beats him to the punch, so for the rest of the game people suspect him and know how weird he is now and he stays on their side for the most part. It is not only completely in character but would just make perfect sense if Nagito murders Hajime, and we are forced to enter a different POV. I'd think Chiaki would make a good MC, she's kinda bland and a gamer/investigative personality, and she also unique and has some info the rest of the cast doesn't which makes her more interesting to play. There, now the new route scenario is turned on it's head, the 2 characters that drove the plot of the original game the hardest are BOTH gone.
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>>720602138
>This plus make sure everyone agrees to always be in a group of 3 and if they don't they're the obvious immediate suspect if anything happens.
that could still lead to A and B teaming up to kill C.
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>>720602119
I guess it makes sense for him to be the killer again? Unless the event that changes the culprit and victims is HUGE, one thing that could happen:
>manlet fag goes under the floor to stab "Nagito"
>finds Gundham searching for his earrings because he loses them at a different time
>panicks and stabs him
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>>720602273
Out of the victims, who do you think could work as killer?
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>>720602093
i remember when people thought that despair arc was better than future, and the opinion gradually changed when shit got worse and worse
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>>720601672
Don't open the door for anyone or randomly wander around at night and you'll probably be alright.
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>>720601657
He is a 10/10 character but let's be real he got enough content in the original game, even a kino POV scene. His POV is not fitting for an MC because he's not a serious investigator or crime solver, he's an insane guy that just wanders and does what he feels like. I'm expecting him to die early this time (like murdering in ch1) because it would be the kind of move that sets the tone for the rest of the game.

Agreed with others that Chiaki would be a better MC swap, and hey now Kodaka can give us that female MC we were expecting in V3.
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>>720602376
In a Danganronpa context no, accomplices are not a thing due to the rules. Except in Hifumi in 1 who is just fucking retarded that case sucks.
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>>720597092
It's funny how people obviously upset about V3's ending attempt to disparage prior DR to shit on Kodaka, while also showcasing themselves as a long-time(term) fan.
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>>720602482
oh right I forgot

here my favorite clip from the anime
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I look like Kaede irl but I want to look like a buffer shuichi. Tips?
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>>720602000
>Don't do stupid shit.

If you aren't stupid and actively antagonizing people you will survive DR1 and DR2 scenarios easy, at least given what we know. It's V3 where you get the truly murderous psychos.
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>>720602539
wtf i hate hope now
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>>720602580
Kaede is the hottest
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>>720601358
why is monokuma so lanky
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>>720593047
With 2x2, I have hope there will be a version of V3 where we will see more of her.
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>>720602653
ozempic
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>>720602627
if Chiaki doesn't survive I'm going to scream
she would die three times in a row
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>>720602119
There's no way they're giving him a 2nd execution scene, those are one of the highpoints of the game and the devs are smart enough to make it a different set of characters. He probably gets murdered instead of murders someone else though. He's an asshole that invades personal space, they could make any woman murder him or even something like have Soda murder him when he hits on Sonia. A teruteru redemption arc where he changes his ways and ends up a serious ally could be kinda kino though.
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>>720602702
Brace yourself.
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>>720602705
He's a good person. If anything he probably finds the murderer AGAIN, tries to stop them, the murdered kills him because he's fucking 110cm tall and a jobber.
>>720602748
I remember all of these oh my god
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Here are some things I would like to see to mix things up
>another suicide
>delayed murder, someone sets up a trap, gets killed by someone else, and another person accidentally gets killed by the trap later on
>triple kill
>two killers but not like celeste's case
Any of these would be interesting.
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>>720602702
yeah but imagine how funny it would be if he killed the same character three times
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>>720602539
I LOVE DESPAIR I LOVE DESPAIR I LOVE DESPAIR
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>>720602438
>Twogami
can see him killing to protect someone else/the group as a whole
>Mahiru
nope
>Ibuki
see above
>Hiyoko
unless Teruteru tries to pull a fast one on her, nah
>Nekomaru
my first instinct is accidental death. but chapter 4 says otherwise
>Komaeda
the guy literally wanted to be the first murderer
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>>720602783
What if you set a trap that accidentally gets activated by someone else? Who would be considered the killer?
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>>720601646
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>watch 2x2 trailer
>hopeman's shirt is different
>mahiru doesn't have freckles
>gundham's scarf is bigger

My theory is that diverging from the "intended" events is going to slowly glitch out the simulation and subtly change some things. Maybe the simulation will break and the REAL Dangit Grandpa 4 will begin.
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>>720602380
The execution scenes are a huge deal and take a lot of the budget, 0% chance they're giving the same character a 2nd execution scene unless they find to do something like have 2 culprits at the same time with a shocking duo execution.
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>>720602773
it's a blast from the past and i'm having a great time
i'll talk shit about danganronpa until the cows come home but i'll never say i didn't enjoy it
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>>720602702
Anon...she's gonna die again, how else will they get character development?
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>>720602783
Besides 2-5, kinda, did the games ever do a "didnt know I was the murderer" case? I can't remember
like accidental murder
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>>720599894
He ended it in his reality.
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>>720602837
Chapter 2-5 says that whoever activated the thing that killed someone else is the killer.
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>>720601646
i have a lot
i don't know if i have all the ones from /a/, but i think i have most of them
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>>720602702
there's a pretty reasonable chance she ends up being the MC after Hajime is killed, if they did kill Hajime she is by far the best additional MC.
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>>720602843
mahiru still has freckles, they're just very hard to see under the harsh trial lighting
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>>720602912
>his reality
post the fiction within fiction within fiction chart
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>>720602837
Unless you mean something else, that sounds like someone falling into your trap which would make you the killer, a trap activating implies the victim set it off. Do you mean something like you set a trap, but someone else later on finds it and modified the trap and the trap kills someone after the modification was made?
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>>720602539
MUST...LAUGH......AT GAY BOXERS...
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I want to see Hopeman caught in someone else's trap this time, seeing him out of his element is fun
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>>720602837
Duh.
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>>720601646
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>>720603012
No, without modifications, like someone fucking around activates a trap that kills someone (or themselves). However the other anon is right that 2-5 is example enough.
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>>720596989
Yes.
>Monokubs
Scrappy Doo
>Talents
Absolute bottom of the barrel shit that can hardly qualify as a real talent the majority of the time, almost like it's all made up.
>Motive #1
Literally the lack of a motive beyond "You will all die". Keep in mind, DR1 and 2 purposefully kill off someone right at the start to illustrate stakes (Monomi and Mukuro)- V3 fails to do that also on purpose, because the audience already knows the stakes.
>Motive #2
A retread that gets botched by the production staff.
The actual motive is also laughably over the top in a "This is DR, right?" kind of way.
>Motive #3
Literally "Bring back the dead", another stake nullifier done purely to make the game interesting.
>Motive #4
A forced callback and the flashback light, literally injected motives to make murders happen (which is the case for Motive #2 to a degree).

etcetcetc
DRV3 is basically shitting on the idea of hackneyed sequels as a way to close out Kodaka's role on the series, because he isn't unaware of his rehashing. DR2 directly called attention to that in only the second game, with the characters discussing how DR2 was the same as DR1
>A surprising murder in a weird place (Sayaka in Makoto's room, Twogami under the table, both stabbed)
>A hidden killer among the group (Toko is real, Peko is a fakeout)
>A person beaten with a blunt object (Chihiro, Mahiru) because of a dead relative (Mondo's brother, Fuyuhiko's sister)
>A double murder (duh)
>Odd shuffling of corpses to obscure the murder location (Taka and Hifumi's bodies moving, Hiyoko's body being hidden)
>the killer obscuring where the murders took place (Celestia's screams, Mikan's video)
>big guy fights the headmaster (Sakura, Nekomaru)
>big guy dies (Sakura, Nekomaru)
>done for the sake of everyone else (Sakura unites everyone, Nekomaru's death saves everyone)
2-5 inverts this, but that's because it's Nagito- instead of the culprit targeting one person to execute, it's to save one person (Kyoko-Chiaki)
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>>720602948
Kuzuryuu as new MC would be kino.
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It's time.
Twogami MC.
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I know Hundred Line has a killing game route, but does it actually have any fun murder mysteries? I'm still putting off playing it.
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>>720603153
Now that would be fucking kino.
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>>720603054
absolute insanity
I was trembling when they realized he used his fucking luck to make the "traitor" kill him
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>>720602906
V3-4, considering the memory loss
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>>720602783
suicide is really a one trick pony, the evidence in a suicide is always super obvious once you know what to look for. it's possible they use a suicide as a plot device, something like there are 2 dead people and after people realize who killed the 1st one, they go "FUCK WAIT" and it turns out the 1st was suicide so they have to solve the 2nd which was actually a completely unrelated murder.
the setting a trap thing is literally 2-5, they're not going to do a trap.
triple kill is possible but it thins the cast a bit too fast to lose 4 people in 1 chapter, they need a reasonable amount of survivors in the end.
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>>720602906
3-4
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>>720602353
Danganronpa anime dubs are really bad.
>only Makoto's voice actor reprises his role in DRTA
>only half of DR2's cast reprise their roles
>script ignores the game localizations
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>>720603034
he was unstoppable until the very end
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>>720600160
Super Duper Gaslighter
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>>720602831
we need to keep an open mind about motives. one of the most wholesome and least likely to murder in the entire series ended up being a killer in V3. If anything the characters you think "they would never be the murderer" are the most likely to be murderers this time, and Kodaka will invent a reason for it to make sense even if it's resorting to despair syndrome or whatever they call it again.
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I really hope they don't pull a protagonist fake-out for the new scenario and instead maybe tap into something else for Hajime.
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>>720602906
3-4, Gonta forgot he was the killer due to a bug heh caused by him not putting the cables into his headset correctly because the fan favorite Himiko said right was the hand you hold chopsticks with.
Come to think of it, Himiko is partially responsible for most of the murders.
>3-2 magic show gave kirumi a way to dispose the body and frame someone
>3-3 she let tenko do the seance instead of her
>3-4 her words caused the gonta to be buggy
>3-5 she brought the crossbow to kaito which led to kokichi being injured and unable to stop maki's exisal causing him to be poisoned
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>>720601409
2x2 is actually a grand retconning of DR3 and 2.5, and it's about Hajime and the others saving everyone who is still in a coma.
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>>720603169
No, it doesn't, it has danganronpa-like characters but doesn't have fun murder mysteries.
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>>720603140
that one could kinda work as well but I have a feeling we'll instead get a cool dynamic where the rest of the cast find out about him and peko peko early and neither of them die right after. they could both be quite different if they didn't need to keep that secret.
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>>720603153
good luck selling a DR game with porky the pig as the MC
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>>720603249
I have a friend who watched DRTA instead of playing the actual game and he hated it.
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>>720603386
>>720603232
>>720603212
Oh thanks I forgot

I dont remember most of the cases in V3, I think they were all forgettable besides the very first one and the 3rd because of meme saws

I remember being very disappointed in the 5th one because of 2-5 obviously
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>>720601672
Become friends with the big muscle guy since the friend has good odds of surviving (Aoi and Akane lived, Ouma died).
If that fails, become the incel comic relief character.
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>>720603153
nah he'll be a murderer and take the place of whoever he murdered. still a fat fuck but only the player can tell, the cast won't realize until they already have proof it was him.
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>>720601249
>It's been 10 years
WHAT THE FUCK
Seems like just yesterday that I was playing the PSP "Super Duper" translation
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>>720598813
Kaede is still alive in my mind, smothering me with her big boobs.
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>>720601087
>makoto, kyoko and byakuya enter the game in chapter 6 just like last time
>suddenly shuichi, maki and himiko also come in suits and enter the game
>they become a third party and try to stop both junko and the future foundation
I would scream kino until the credits ended
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>>720603460
>Looney Tunesronpa
fund it
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>>720600452
I swear S gave them neat character quirks

They made Kirumi obsess over having a clone/robot army of herself, asking gundham for advice over it
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>>720602000
>>720601672
Screw this guys I'm staying in my room alone!
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>>720603381
I think Hajime's core struggle as someone without any talent is already a pretty good fit for the game. It's a shame it's mostly rushed in the original, but I would be happy if they expanded on it in the new route.
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>>720603460
I'd agree with anyone else but Kodaka, especially since it'd be a twist that wouldn't be advertised. Hell, I'm pretty sure Kaede is the most popular V3 character and he killed her off immediately.
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>>720603386
doesn't himiko get hit with some pretty intense survivors guilt after ch2?
iirc it was the main reason for her joining angie's cult
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>>720603494
>incel comic relief character.
as much as I would rather pretend otherwise, Hiro FUCKS.
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>>720603530
Holy fuck I now remember Re:Birth
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>>720603460
>porky the pig
He's the heir to the Togami family you piece of shit
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>>720603530
kino beyond comprehension
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>>720603603
It's rushed because 2-6 would need to do good for the final chapter and revive everyone but as despair mode ones.
He needs to face himself as Izuru, and not just in a short dream.
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>>720603460
Most of the fanbase likes him.
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>>720602843
I just hope it's a legitimate alternate scenario/split from the original Danganronpa 2 for fanservice that goes more off the rails.
Too bad it's more likely that it's going to be some giant metaplot about them actually being in V4 and them not being the originals
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>four(ĺ››) shitty third chapters, if you include Rain Code
>four(cuatro) poorly thought out endings if you include Rain Code, first game gets a pass only if you see it as a standalone game.
>all the shitty characters that always survive the entire games and the good ones get killed
>this time it's going to be different, guys!
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>>720603169
It has a LOT of murders and situations where you have to guess who the murderers are, like literally every character is killed a dozen different ways across the routes. The "Killing Game" route is not a Danganronpa mystery killing game though, it's "whoever kills the least of the npc enemies each round is executed". There is a mystery about who the mastermind is for that and such, and there are routes with major mystery elements.
Pic related is a little collage of 6 images of 1 character, including a few images of her dead. One thing I have to give THL credit for is despite being a massive game, the CG count is equally high and the quality/variety in those CGs is legendary.

would rec it honestly, but it's long as fuck so strap in.
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>>720602061
it has the best protag
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>>720603759
That's a lot of big girl words for a baka zonbi.
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>>720603773
...is that a bunch of zombies?
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>>720603615
Not really survivor's guilt, she's just unable to cope with the situation so she joins it for some stability. The survivor's guilt kicks in after Tenko dies and people think she did it until Shuichi tells her to live on for Tenko and Angie's sake.
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>>720603759
rain code's last case was tight as fuck though
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>>720603169
Most people who will respond to you haven't played the game, but there is a murder mystery route in the game with proper, solvable, murder mysteries like in Danganronpa.
The Killing Game route is a functional killing game, not a murder mystery one.
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>>720603054
My memory is fuzzy. Under Junko's rules for DR1, what would happen if she legitimately couldn't tell who the killer was if a scenario like Komaeda's scenario happened? I believe it was explained in DR2 that since it was a simulation they had a god view of everything but what if it was like in DR1?
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>>720603872
Yes.
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>>720603842
Sakura would survive a danganronpa game until the end.
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>>720603948
Junko would probably still know unless her camera system went down.
But, as shown in 1-5, she doesn't give a shit. If she doesn't know the murderer (or doesn't care who it is), she would probably just roll with whoever gets voted in a situation like that.
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>>720603929
Fuck, I need to go back and do more Hundred Line routes. Can you spoil me what the route is called?
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>>720602061
udg is fucking crazy and i was constantly asking how the fuck they got away with it every 20 minutes
actual insanity what it gets into in the last third
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>>720603169
Murder mysteries are not the focus overall, but there are multiple times the game will have murder mystery plot points where it forces you to figure out and point out who did it using pic related UI.
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>>720603169
i spent like the entire day today playing the killing game route. it's kino, but it doesn't have any murder mysteries
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>>720603948
She would just pick someone and call it.
After all, she killed Mukuro first and didn't put herself on trial immediately.
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>>720604031
It's just Mystery Route. It branches off from this if I recall
>Kill
>Stay
>Do Not Join The Invasion Hunt
Keep in mind, it's route locked beyond like Day 70. I think it's the third route lock, so you basically need to complete most of the game to get it.
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>>720603739
Assuming it's connected to V3, what would even be happening?
>world got bored of murder games
>since killing games are gone, people cannot use them to relieve their need for violence, so wars and violence begin again
>someone tries to re-emulate them
>they pick their favorite killing game, which was the 2nd, like an obsessed fan, and use all their resources irl to recreate it there
>their entire gimmick is that yes they're obsessed with danganronpa and want to bring it back to life
>successfully creates virtual reality etc.
>kidnaps some randoms (easy since the world is in chaos from wars re-appearing) and makes them roleplay as the DR2 cast inside the reality, or maybe a bigger plot point
>he pretends to be junko/monokuma
>V3 survivors barge in chapter 6 to stop them
This would be, however, way too obvious, and not very Danganronpey.
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>>720603872
There's alot of routes, some crazy, some not so crazy.
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>>720603948
that comes into play in v3
but the rules have never mattered, junko can do whatever the fuck she wants
they only matter in DR2 because it's a computer simulation with rules, the rules are utterly flouted behind the scenes in order to make the game work.
heck, even in DR2-5, monokuma could have just declared chiaki the killer to cause the most despair or happen to make nagito's luck correct
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>>720603635
is it a finished game? is it any good?
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>>720604139
NTA but I doubt it's connected to Danganronpa V3.
Salmon Team is the actual "sequel" to V3 in a loose sense. It outright states that this is what was created after Shuichi told the world to stop watching killing games, which is a game focused entirely on human relationships and personal developments.

Basically, V3 is the ending for V3's storyline.
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>>720603964
>>720604176
Consider my interest piqued. Guess it's time for THL to finally escape backlog hell.
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>>720603759
rain code's finale case is pure kino though
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>>720604139
I just don't want it to be some giant statement on remakes or something
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I have a hunch that they're going to make one of the survivors live again. People immediately assume they'll all die just for the sake of having it be different but I think they would absolutely pull something surprising like that. Hajime and Fuyuhiko have had their time, but it's very likely that Soda, Akane or Sonia could survive again.
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>>720604293
If you want a protip for doing routes:
Focus on the Spare Eito side first, and once you've done everything you can do, move on to the Kill Eito side. Once done there, go back to Spare and then after that, finish off the Kill route lock.
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>>720603872
eeyup. they did just about every plot they could in hundred line, it's literally a 200 hour long game even if you read fast. the zombies route splits (yes with an S) are fucking amazing with some godtier CGs. Pic related is another really fun one, a bit more spoilery for 1 route of many though.
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>>720603773
>quality/variety in those CGs is legendary
I can't really tell from the previews there but I hope that's the case this time around. Some of V3's CGs were comedically bad.
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>>720603635
the one with purple hair... is it a guy or a girl?
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>>720604201
>heck, even in DR2-5, monokuma could have just declared chiaki the killer to cause the most despair or happen to make nagito's luck correct
I think that's what happened. The way I see it, they all """killed""" nagito
Monokuma just said "lol time to kill chiaki bam".
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>>720604420
This moment was incredibly hot with the Japanese VO
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>>720593047
They killed her to completely btfo yurifaggots.
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>>720604390
Sonia's gonna blast someone, I can feel it deep in my bones
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>>720604293
Kodaka apparently wants to do DLC since the game exceeded expectations, but who knows when that will be.
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>>720604390
Akane will die early I think
Soda could be whenever
Sonia could be survivor 2x like you say.
Fuyuhiko is 100% biting it.
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>>720604443
It's hard to find a CG from Hundred Line that isn't gorgeous and there are so many that it's kind of absurd. I spent 200 hours playing it and didn't want to drop it partly because each new CG was worth the small wait between new ones.
Pic rel is a good example of what the many group CGs in THL look like, no more ugly ants. That scene has a few dedicated CGs and some variants as well, it's no joke with their art budget.
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>>720604592
do yurifags live rent-free in your head or something
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>>720601672
Assuming the same rules as V3 (only the first killer is on trial), every time there's a murder take out a bonus person. If every trial is a double murder, the game ends much faster. Otherwise play lame and turtle.
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>>720604358
Facing Makoto should've been a way more hectic experience. He should've started using the same mechanics Yuma did.
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>>720595876
Shuichi Saihara: Ultimate Peach Collector
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>>720604870
>hey that first trial was crazy. what should we do now?
>deal with the anon who opportunistically killed a guy for no reason after the body discovery?
>good idea, i'll tie him up
>what if we lock him in a closet, kill him, and then all agree to never open the closet, so a body discovery never happens and a trial never triggers?
>sounds good to me
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>>720604974
>Himiko is the best one
As expected
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>>720602981
De, saihara will win again
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>>720593047
uhhhh spoilers?
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>>720604787
That's because the CG's were made with 3D models first, and than they trace over it with art so it's always consistent.
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>>720604217
Not a game, just a very elaborate April Fools joke.
https://danganronpa.soragoto.net/
>>720604537
Girl
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>>720603525
We know Shuichi.
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>>720605136
Adachi is the killer
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>>720603990
Not with that spatial awareness.
Now, the LEGENDARY Tae Yamada?
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Mahiru will survive this time and she'll get sex/impregnation with the new protagonist if you romance her since I think THL has that stuff.
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>>720603605
>Kaede is the most popular V3 character

Actually that's Ouma, Saihara and Harukawa.
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teruteru needs a redemption arc because there is just nothing likeable about him whatsoever
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>>720605136
Akechi is the killer
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>>720605247
AI :/ thanks for nothing
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>>720605247
pic rel is a pregnancy ending from THL.
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>>720605276
Checked and I was wrong, but Kaede does beat Maki.
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>>720605462
Hot
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>>720605462
my god
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>>720605336
he's based though
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>>720604071
>guess wrong
>check timeline
>one path is picking the wrong answer and the other path just tells you who it is
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>>720605464
>This might as well not matter in Kodakas mind since he loves Maki over Kaede anyways.
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>>720605489
>>720605553
Hundred Line did NOT fuck around with the fanservice.
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>>720605595
what were you expecting lol.
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>>720605595
>Check timeline
Rookie mistake.
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Hiyoko will be grown up this time.
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>>720605825
dropped
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>>720605462
>>720605664
wew are these games recent? I thought all Japanese games were neutered
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>>720605825
Based. Another one of Kodaka's based takes.
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>>720605913
It's from this year, Kodaka went hard on it especially for Eva who occasionally has the horny energy of Miu but the true nature to be just as much bite as she is bark.
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>>720605825
NOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>720593047
There is only one good Danganronpa game.
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>>720606009
Is Kodaka still the writer for 2x2? Didn't he drop the series? Was he forced into making another one? lol
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>>720602783
Maybe a death that's 100% just an accident, rather than "I was trying to kill somebody else" or "I unknowingly set off a trap somebody else set up"
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>>720605336
>there is just nothing likeable about him whatsoever
The guy loves his mama.
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>>720606079
He is supervising the project and directly came up with a lot of the core plot and "tricks". Yoichiro Koizumi is doing the actual writing, he wrote Ultra Despair Girls and did a few good routes in The Hundred Line as well this year.

Have another Eva being an absolute freak for good measure.
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>>720605462
My wife
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>>720605825
well, that's disappointing.
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>>720606268
communal wife
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>>720593989
the only time he will accept a female protagonist is when he had a red head forgetful junko
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>>720606191
I've read he's an even bigger hack than Kodhacka...
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>>720606191
Ah yes the masterpiece that is ultra despair girls
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>>720606191
>he wrote Ultra Despair Girls
Yoichiro Koizumi wrote Ultra Despair Hagakure, a novel WITHIN Ultra Despair Girls. UDG is a Kodaka product.
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>>720606341
he's not coming up with the plot, he's just writing the scenes following the plot Kodaka designed. The cast of 2 are tropey, it will practically write itself. his routes in hundred line give me faith he can stick the landing.
>>720606427
oops my bad. apology horny samurai.
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>>720604217
It was cancelled because of a cat.
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>>720606537
This bitch makes me so horny i should start this game, even if there's no way I'll finish it any time soon. Plus they confirmed they're fine on sales now so i dont have to feel guilty for pirating it.
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>>720606542
what
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>>720606867
she's hot and perverted so I can't blame you. you know you picked the right waifu when you beach CG focuses on her tits and smile over anyone else.
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>>720606995
They did a charity livestream for somebody’s sick cat and that violated some sort of agreement so they had to cancel the project.
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Reminder mikan isn't virgin
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>>720606995
you can do a fangame and we won't sue, you just can't attempt to generate any money
>ok, we won't try to generate any money!
>actually nevermind, lets generate money to help out a sick cat!
now we will sue if you continue
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>>720607310
does that mean you're getting out of line because I'm still game
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>>720607310
Out of ten!
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>>720607310
Who had the most used up pussy between her and Akane anyway?
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>>720607310
That's not going to stop me from turning her into a baby factory for my spawn.
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>>720606034
Ugly baboo retard dyke
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>>720607523
Both of them got the brains fucked out of them. Akane such a whore she's literally a shonen protagonist hooker.
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I think the twist being V3 related is unlikely because:
>They are probably gonna want something that people fresh off the OG 2 can understand assuming the normal campaign remake is played straight
>They will be disincentivized further from the fact that V3 will be 9 years old, and people forget plot details
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>>720602153
You desperately try to resist, but the SEESAW EFFECT is too powerful.
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Maybe we are going to have double killer this time.
It happened in Squid Game and both participants got a half of the score
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>I know an unidentified murderer is on the loose and everything, but would you like to volunteer to be trapped under a cage in a dark room I set up to take part in my autistic ritual?
Imagine actually agreeing to this
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>>720608423
tenko just wanted to impress himiko
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>>720608423
The entire trial was ridiculous in the most beautiful way possible
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>>720608423
but he looks so trustworthy
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>>720608423
imagine thinking you could possibly get away with it when you were completely controlling every single step
>but the steps were written down in a book that anyone could have read! anyone could have studied and devised a plan around them!
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Just a reminder that if your character doesn't make it on the top 30, they aren't even worth mentioning.
https://dengekionline.com/articles/105412/
1st place: Nagito Komaeda
2nd place: Chiaki Nanami
3rd place: Kokichi Ouma
4th place: Hajime Hinata
5th place: Kyoko Kirigiri
6th place: Shuichi Saihara
7th place: Makoto Naegi
8th place: Gundham Tanaka
9th place: Mikan Tsumiki
10th place: Junko Enoshima
11th place: Celestia Ludenberg
12th place: Ibuki Mioda
13th place: Chihiro Fujisaki
14th place: Kaede Akamatsu
15th place: Kiyotaka Ishimaru
16th place: Kazuichi Souda
17th place: Sayaka Maizono
18th place : Maki Harukawa
19th place: Kaito Momota
20th place : Byakuya Togami
21st place: Rantaro Amami
22nd place: Toko Fukawa
23rd place : Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu
24th place : Peko Hekoyama
25th place: Korekiyo Shinguji
26th place: Mito Iruma
27th place: Himiko Yumeno
28th place : Kibo
29th place: Tojo Kirumi
30th place: Gonta Gokuhara
So, we're looking at Nagito, Chiaki, Gundham, Ibuki, and Mikan survivors
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>>720593047
Because they always kill off the best girl first
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>>720608772
he might be the most based retard in the franchise
he does the perfect murder only to do another one the stupidest way possible just for the lulz
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>>720608820
>4th place: Hajime Hinata
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>>720608415
what exactly do you mean by that? danganronpa already has rules for double killers. although they could change the rule I guess.
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>>720608940
He's Nagito's boytoy, what did you expect?
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Are there any scenarios where Hinata could "die"/activate Izuru ahead of time?
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>>720608820
It's kind of nuts. If Nagito was 30% less well written, I don't think anyone would even give a fuck about DR2.
Love him or hate him, he is the most important character in the franchise.
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I feel only despair, you think kodaka after multiple flops would write new good danganronpa game?
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>>720608835
You spelled Miu wrong.
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>>720608820
What the hell did Mahiru do to get hated by the japanese?
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Is what they say about Komaru true?
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>>720608963
I just wonder if lorewise they have an opportunity to detect who dealt the fatal blow In DRV3 they had NANOMACHINES, SON. Two killers also can agree to the bet. Both of them stab the victim a bunch of times. And only one survives after the trial
Also Kodaka can break his V3 rule and make 2 killers 2 victims case. And survivors should find out both killers on the same trial.
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Years later and it's still baffling to me how Akane manages to be one of the worst characters in the franchise. Brown goddess + low IQ should be something easy to get people to like, but Kohacka does the impossible.
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>>720609202
Be a nag.
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>>720609202
I would say that she has a more "normal" personality and they prefer the crazier characters (see Gundham and Ibuki so high) but then boring ass Chihiro is high as well, so I don't know.
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>>720609202
She has a terrible introduction and is a big man hater. It's hard to recover from first impressions
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>>720609264
akane got gutted during production, she was supposed to be the main antagonist
iirc thats why her and hajime's names are opposites in japanese
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>>720609379
>iirc thats why her and hajime's names are opposites in japanese
>HAJIME Hinata
>Akane OWARI
hmmm. I mean, it works but
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>>720609238
2 is still a simulation. I don't think there is any way to trick it into not knowing who the killer is.
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>>720609202
she called them out on being herbivore males
she wants a retvrn to tradition and that means men have to step up
she'll gladly be the submissive housewife to a man she respects
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>>720609264
They just took Aoi and made her even more extreme. She's a derivative character, her existing is just dumb
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>>720609379
>she was supposed to be the main antagonist
>main
Really? I only heard that she was supposed one of the culprits.
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>>720609525
Since she was heavily featured in early promo art, people tend to assume she had a bigger role back then.
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>>720609684
she's a big girl
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You guys aren't ready for Sonia and Akane killers.
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>>720607948
it's unlikely because kodaka likes being contrarian desu. v3 was v3 specifically because he wanted to be contrarian. if anything he is likely to play this one straight specifically because some people will expect him to keep the v3 twist.
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>>720609792
>you will never be killed by Akane crushing your head between her thighs
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>>720609684
She had an energy of someone who could go on killing spree. With her bare hands.
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>>720608963
changing the rules is unlikely because the route split probably happens after monokuma gives the rules. any real "rule change" will be from monokuma's extra motives.
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>>720609769
Yes, but............... for who?
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>>720609083
it's not only possible but likely, when doing a 2nd scenario this long after the original it's very likely kodaka has his own personal "I wish I did more with X concept" thoughts.
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>>720609792
danganronpa can't have retarded murderers, they have to be able to deceive in a class trial
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>>720609919
HAJIME NO
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>>720602783
I want them to ACTUALLY do the V3-3 thing of "well yeah I killed THAT guy but his body isn't the topic of the case, which means I am not the culprit that can be executed" but for real this time
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>>720609325
chihiro is popular as an early trans icon, not for anything actually related to the character's personality
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>>720610025
>HURR DURR I WAS PRETENDING, BITCH!
Here is your plot twist.
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>>720610095
holy kino!
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>>720603872
>>720604420
>>720604579
the Zombie route was so good, it tickled me pink with all of the fun tropes and moments
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>>720610095
>akane committed so hard to her ruse of being retarded that she didn't break character once through all six chapters
>in this alternate reality she gets caught and reveals herself to be erudite and clever
fucking kino
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I want a DR1 remake where Sayaka lives longer...
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>>720610025
brother, the most retarded character in the entire series, who couldn't even speak proper english, was a murderer in v3. if kodaka wants a retard to be a murderer, he will write a scenario where it makes perfect sense.
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>>720593894
>the murderer is.... le detective ackshually!
I thought this trope has been overplayed lol
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Sonia's execution? Gangbang with all survivors until she dies from multiple orgasms.
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Please let me turn off those TERRIBLE animations for every sprite, it looks like a terrible Live2D hentai game
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>>720610234
if something in a murder mystery is overplayed but the audience doesn't see it coming, i think it's fine
>actually I had a twin!
if a mystery pulls this tired twist off in 2025 without the audience going "uhh they have a twin, don't they", then i'd consider it a success
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>>720610278
there's a good chance it's togglable as a performance or accessibility setting. at the very least it should be moddable
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>>720593894
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEE
SAVE ME WILLARD WRIGHT
SAVE ME RONALD KNOX
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>>720601672
Kill everyone by putting bombs in their food
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>>720610324
this shit was codified decades before you were born, the Knox Rules. it's possible to break a rule and still have it be fine, but the way to do it properly is the exact opposite of what you said, the audience SHOULD be able to see it coming. There has to be valid evidence and a way for the player to logically deduce the answer, otherwise it's an asspull.

It's what makes the Kaede twist bullshit that's only really acceptable because it's the first trial and those usually suck with basic boring solutions. The game just lies to you about the evidence and what is happening through your POV. It's at least entertaining, and compared to the snoozefest of 1-1 where the solution is obvious before even entering the trial, it's acceptable.

There have been good stories where the detective committed the crime despite that breaking a Knox Rule, but they have to be set up so the reader is duly prepared and the story gives proper evidence and foreshadowing without ever lying to the reader.
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>>720610665
That's bullshit but I believe it
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>>720609202
Her hair is dumb
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>>720611026
It's literally just a normal bob.
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It's pretty obvious that the twist will be Hajime dying and Nagito being the new protagonist
>reveal starts with the Nagito wakeup scene
>New scene with Nagito and Hajime shown for supposed "one event changes everything" being mentioned. Something big happens with them and it's likely one of them will die in Chapter 1
>They would probably want to have new free time events if it's going to be a new scenario as long as the original game, so it makes sense to make it with a new character
>We already know all there is to Hajime. We've seen an entire game's worth of twists and tricks from his POV and it makes sense to have an alternate take from a fresh perspective
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>>720611506
>play as nagito
>suddenly he becomes retarded
would be a bit weird
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>>720611625
If they write it cleverly enough it could work. Just have Nagito act like he's already figured it out in his inner thoughts/dialogue without directly communicating it to the player. Trials feel more like you're guiding the other students (and the player) rather than Nagito himself slowly connecting the dots.
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>>720597360
>>720602527
The hack came crawling back, which proves I'm right
That is why you can only resort to random ad hom
Retards
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>>720611506
There's no way in hell Nagito is gonna be the protagonist, they would have to dumb him down and that would piss off alot of people.
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Bros, what happened?
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>>720611783
kek
I love this series pulls all types of retards, not just the tumblr ones.
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>>720611506
Nagito would suck as the protagonist because he has too much flavor and isn't the type of character to act as a detective and gather clues while level-headedly leading the discussions. They would have to slaughter his character to make him the protagonist. If they do a protagonist swap it will likely be:
>Nagito and Hajime go to investigate the boat alone at night
>Nagito kills Hajime
>Now you are Chiaki
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>>720611783
He didn't, though. It's not written by him. His only involvement is "supervising" the project since he's the original writer and all.
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>>720611993
this isn't multiple endings, it's an entire danganronpa 4 that just shares a cast with 2. 99.9% of the content is going to be different, it's just going to share the intro scenes.
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>>720612008
>you are now controlling player 2
kino
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>>720612062
>He didn't
>But he did
Came crawling back. After multiple failed projects.
HAHAHAHA WHAT A HACK
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>>720612139
Hundred Line wasn't a failure though. The mad man is thinking about doing DLC for it now because he wants to add even more routes.
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>>720612062
Incorrect. He is supervising but also came up with the overall plot and contributed likely most of the individual tricks (aka the actual trial plots).
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>>720612062
Do not argue with the retard who thinks Hundred Line flopped, it's like talking to a brick wall.
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>>720612184
A who line? No one knows wtf that flopshit is dumbass
>thinking about DLC for his passion project flopshit
Why is he thinking about it and making danganronpa instead of just doing it??
How retarded are you?
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>>720612184
is it really a 200 hours game??
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Everything after Doggleromba 2 is non-canon.
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>>720612217
EASY pirate
Kodaka taking another paycheque from the franchise after spitting on its fans?
EASY pirate
>b-b-b-but
PIRATE
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>>720612275
Hundred Line schizos I can deal with.
It's the people who still take V3 as a personal affront in the big 25 that I have no idea how they exist.
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KISS
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RING
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>>720612287
Nah, it's 140-150 hours long, it's the longest Kodaka game to date and he wants to add dlc to it.
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>>720612275
>i-it didnt f-flop
>h-he just happen to come crawling back to danganronpa b-b-because...
Look at this hack slurper
He actually read that irrelevant flopshit
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>>720612361
Now this is a based post.
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>>720612452
how fast do you think games get made anon
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>gets DR kino and non-DR kino in a short amount of time
>"THIS IS ACTUALLY BAD BECAU-"
no thanks fag
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>>720612624
I only hope it isn't shittily written. I think this is a great opportunity to expand on and/or redeem characters who got the short end of the stick the first time around.
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>>720612362
nice strawman bro, have fun winning against someone you made up that doesn't exist in this thread
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>>720609206
No they're all wrong and anybody who says otherwise is wrong too
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>>720612560
What does that question have to do with anything you fucking retard?
>>720612624
Who are you quoting?
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>>720612778
>Who are you quoting?
Clearly you know the answer
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>>720612747
You say that, but some characters have to die twice no matter what, so some characters are gonna get short end of the stick again.
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>>720612748
You sound real mad about me pirating a game touched by a HACK that came crawling back
Stay mad?
>>720612808
Clearly you need meds. You still can't answer who you were quoting.
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>>720612275
Did Rain Code flop? People seemed to stop talking about it pretty quickly
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>>720612841
>still desperately wants to play a hack's game
Mind Status: Broken
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>>720612778
you are saying hundred line flopped so he came crawling back to danganronpa
hundred line released five months ago
do you get the rest or do i need to explain it like you're a toddler
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>>720612868
Not much to talk about. It didn't have some big mysterious open end like the DR games. I'd bet it performed okay at least. Wouldn't count on a sequel though.
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>>720612868
It did well for game sales, but the merch sales were awful for it, it just couldn't retain it's fanbase in the end and died as a result.
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>>720612287
It depends on you, but kinda.
If you only plan on doing every story route and use the skip battle functions for skipping every repeat fight while using the text skipper to skip fillerish-text (like the daily morning announcement jokes), you're looking at 150 hours easily for the bare minimum of complete story.

If you're looking to max out the game, aka:
>get all the character friendship bonds maxxed for those unique scenes
>get all the gifts in exploration
>read a lot of the vast amount of optional dialogue
then that's an easy +10 to +60 hours depending on what you actually do.

If you actually did every battle it'd be past 200 hours easily, but nobody is that level of masochist. The game was a little longer at launch technically due to filler bits. They improved the fight skipper to recognize more fights as repeats. They also added some QOL options that save time, like being able to skip the dedicated "ding dong" animation at the start of most days you're in the school (only a few seconds but since it repeats 1000+ times it adds up).
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>>720612868
Of course it flopped
No one knows what hundred flops or shit code even is or discusses it on this board
But the mere listing of a DR2 remake leads to daily bump limit threads
Danganronpa won, the hack came crawling back. LMAO
>>720612913
Wow you are REALLY mad huh? Stay mad you hack defending retard.
>>720612957
Hey, tourist. The hack left the franchise because he doesn't know how to write an ending. How new are you that this needs to be explained to you?
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>>720612957
Anon, do you really need to ask? He's literally throwing a tantrum.
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>>720613124
how fast do you think a new game project like danganronpa 2x2 gets made you fucking prick answer the question
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>>720613164
>has to upvote some dumbass tourist's post because he got called out as a hack defending retard
Stay retarded.
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>>720600857
>Literally everyone did NOTHING WRONG
>danganronpa 2
Anon...
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>>720613210
Can you post a timestamp of your face and current address? Oh you don't think that question is worth answering because it's not relevant to anything itt?
Exactly. Now shut the fuck up retard.
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>>720612825
dying doesn't instantly mean someone got the short end of the stick. Nagito got so much content and they gave him many top tier scenes, but he still was a victim who died. If Nagito died as the murderer of trial 1 this time, he would still easily be one of the most well used characters in the overall 2 game package due to how brightly he shined in the original game.
The two characters that died in ch1 last time could still both die before ch4 without feeling like they got the short end of the stick. If anything it's characters that survive all game but don't do much that tend to feel boring, what does Soda do that's truly memorable? When I think of Teruteru I have a few important scenes he shines in at least.
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>>720613124
hundred line has had an active /vg/ thread since launch that is still used to this day, but you're a bait poster that probably already knows this and is just desperate for attention so whatever
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Reminder that DR2x2 has been in the works since 2023, Kodaka was gonna help with the game regardless of how Hundred Line turned out.
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>>720613412
I feel like you just have to make it past Ch 2 to get full development essentially. So as long as those 4 make it that far, it's fine.
Not that I necessarily want to see Teruteru make it that long
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>>720613339
to answer your question: no, retard.
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>>720613573
You mean the general that was made as a danganronpa waiting room for dangan autists and its activity dropped off a cliff after 2x2 got announced? You mean that vg general?
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>>720613658
Then if you don't want to answer pointless questions why are you asking them? Are you trolling?
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>>720613690
I have no horse in this race but isn't there already a proper Danganronpa general over at /vg/? Why would they need an extra waiting room?
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>>720613590
>I feel like you just have to make it past Ch 2 to get full development essentially.
Didn't work for Ibuki
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>>720613720
read your question and then my answer again, slowly this time. i know you have some difficulties but i'm sure you'll get it at some point! feel free to ask me if you need a hint
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>>720613590
I dunno, teruteru died fast but he felt fully developed, what else would we want to know about him? It's typically the victim of ch1 that is shallow, but they were smart in making the victim of ch1 the imposter that just mirrors Togami, who we already know extremely well.
They'll have a chance to expand on the impostor this time, there's a few really fun angles they could take with the character, like he might be forced to get rid of the disguise to prove himself innocent, or kill someone then pretend to be them (even if it doesn't work well on the player kek).
Either way I would be shocked if anyone that died before ch3 ended last time dies before ch2 execution this time, they obviously know people will want to learn more about the characters.
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>>720613907
There's nothing to read except your hilarious frustrations after being btfo. Just shut up and stay retarded.
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>>720613930
I hope the imposter gets the same kind of development the big chungus from raging loop got.
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>>720613815
what it really comes down to for Danganronpa is that characters get developed when the game focuses on them. There is no stronger focus than being the killer, because the game will flesh them out significantly and give them a backstory and motive in the process. Many victims also get this treatment, but not all of them. so I wouldn't worry too much, there's no shot at all they'd do something insane like give teruteru a 2nd execution scene, we're gonna get to see much more of the cast.
Personally I'm extremely excited for more Mikan. She only killed in 2 because Monokuma warped her, without that specific plot device she seems likely to survive all game or maybe be a victim later in the game. Ibuki is up there as well, I imagine she might survive all game if only because it would be difficult to write a scenario where she kills someone that feels natural without just repeating the twist used to force Mikan to kill.
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>>720614175
Imagine Mikan remembers her school days and actually fully snaps and kills Hiyoko again, but completely naturally.
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>>720613930
Teruteru was playing up a facade that didn't really show until his breakdown in the trial. Getting past his denial of the killing game as well as his own denial of himself (actually speaking with his accent or something like that) could be an interesting angle of development. Despite all the jokes he also does genuinely care about all his classmates and taking care of them.
I agree that he served his role well as a Chapter 1 killer but there is something to work with there.
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>Kazuichi has an incel rage out and kills Sonia
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>>720614273
It would be very funny, but just the fact that execution scenes are so hyped and important to the series basically guarantees they will not reuse a single culprit. there's a chance they do something like have the impostor die as a victim again just later in the game, but no shot at all they reuse a culprit when it's basically the most coveted role in the IP and even with 3 games they couldn't give everyone an execution.
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>>720613658
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>>720612778
>literally driven insane from being filtered by V3 so hard
fiction truly does affect reality
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>>720614415
But consider this. Mikan's execution was shit and they give her a new one.
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>>720613412
>If anything it's characters that survive all game but don't do much that tend to feel boring
I think there's something interesting to be done with all the survivors left. In fact I think there's room for one of the survivors to live again, just because it feels like an interesting kind of twist they could do.
>Kazuichi in a killing game where Sonia dies early so they're forced to do more with his character than "Miss Sonia" for half his dialogue. Alternatively he could be pushed to the brink enough to be a killer or gullible enough to be killed.
>Akane who actually grows as a character instead of being a retard all game. Alternatively, they could do the opposite with Nekomaru losing Akane in some way and having to deal with the guilty of letting someone down as a coach.
>Sonia's devotion to her country could be pushed into making her a killer
>Fuyuhiko and Peko's roles swapping. Alternatively, you could make Peko a victim in a circumstance where Fuyuhiko wouldn't have a reason to grow as a person, instead getting worse when the only person she cares about is taken from him by one of the others.
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>>720614273
I don't see them reusing executions, she's gonna be a victim or a survivor.
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>>720614313
Yeah don't get me wrong, they can absolutely flesh him out, my point is more that his role doesn't feel incomplete as is. It's more like they can make new branches on the tree that is his character, and not like his tree feels like it didn't grow to begin with.

Either way I expect some insane twists. Pic related was a canon event from 2, imagine if it didn't happen until 2x2, that shit would blow people's minds. 2 is a wacky game sometimes, they might have picked it for the basis specifically because of how far they can twist things without it feeling like the base game couldn't go in that direction.
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Which girls are going to get sex scenes this time?
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>>720614449
Now say this without seething, slurper
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>>720602831
I think either Hiyoko or Mahiru will be a culprit because I don't see them both surviving and having one or both just be a murder victim again would probably be boring.
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>>720602273
>culprits are victims
>victims are survivors
>survivors are culprits
60$+tips please
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I don't really give a fuck about anything besides Sonia
They better not mess up her beautiful sprite or voicelines
There will be hell to pay
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>>720614683
Monomi
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>>720614562
Yeah these sort of things are likely. Dangan games love to do character growth through friends dying, every game in the series uses it as a plot device.
Fuyuhiko and Peko are a perfect pair for that sort of thing, they could either have Fuyuhiko die so Peko has to grow and "be herself", or they could even come up with a dynamic where the duo has to tell everyone the truth, and that in itself will enable significant character growth and let us see many new scenes with them.
I think it feels extremely ch2 coded for there to be some altercation between Sonia and Soda where one kills the other because of Soda's "Miss Sonia" obsession. That's the sort of very easy scenario to come up with that ends up changing the cast for the rest of the game drastically. Both of them being survivors originally makes me think it might even be too easy and obvious of an angle to go for, but we'll see.
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>>720614882
Kazuichi...
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>>720614870
>survivors are victims
>victims are culprits
>culprits are survivors
Fixed.
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>>720614960
Don't compare me with that stupid simp.
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>>720614991
Sonia and Akane should be culprits
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>Chapter 5
>Kazuichi sets up a machine to automatically murder someone, thus giving himself a solid alibi
>Problem is Kazuichi already died in a previous chapter
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>>720614769
Mahiru feels survivor coded to me honestly, a character that has some good straight man potential. Hiyoko could go either way but I do imagine she could make a good killer, they wouldn't need that crazy of an excuse for someone with her attitude to end up killing.
Victim is probably the role most likely to have repeats just because it's the most common role, but I think it's realistic for the imposter to be a victim twice and then not need to repeat any other roles in the cast. Making him a killer would be weird imo, and the dude does not have survivor energy period.
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>>720615119
Victim seems a lot more likely to get repeats than survivors (except maybe one) and culprits, though I think they should at least have entirely different circumstances and causes for their deaths
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Sonia needs to survive or else I can't make babies with her. It's true.
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>>720615056
I want to see the body discovery rule fucked with more. A class trial only happens if the body is discovered, so what happens if a body isn't found? Everytime someone in the series is killed you find them the next day or immediately. Imagine somebody going missing and they aren't found for a good while or until the next chapter.
>>720615119
>Making him a killer would be weird imo, and the dude does not have survivor energy period.
He has Chapter 5 energy to me. He could fill in the important character role that would be left behind if Nagito/Hajime dies and be involved in a complicated murder plan.
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>>720615056
Would be a funny one but it would end up just being like 2-5 where they'd need to pin the blame on whoever was closest to the chain of events. They wouldn't cuck the player out of an execution scene, even dangan 1 at least gave the alter ego execution when they had a suicide trial
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>>720615332
Monokuma could still execute the Mini-Maru murderer
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>>720615119
I know a lot of people think Hiyoko will survive because she was originally planned to, but I think of the two Mahiru's a bit more likely since it seems like they might want to explore how she'd react to Hiyoko dying rather than "Hiyoko's sad about Mahiru dying and learns to be less of a bitch but for real this time" which we already got the first half of in the original route anyway.
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>>720615419
>she was originally planned to
This isn't even true, or at least a proper source was never given on it. It was just spread around for whatever reason.
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>>720594048
Yeah even his name is a play on shinichi from case closed
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>>720615225
>I want to see the body discovery rule fucked with more. A class trial only happens if the body is discovered, so what happens if a body isn't found? Everytime someone in the series is killed you find them the next day or immediately. Imagine somebody going missing and they aren't found for a good while or until the next chapter.
that's just basic storytelling. the plot can't progress until the required events happen, so the game doesn't waste your time. It would be hard for them to pull off a "they get found next chapter" thing because obviously the dead person wouldn't be at the class trial before they are found.
They could find a way to do it, but it would probably be convoluted and as a player it would be obvious from a mile away exactly what the game is doing. what are we gonna assume, that monokuma just lets the missing one play hooky? it'll be obvious they died... you'd just be waiting to find the body, and it mentally would get in the way of the trial you're actually supposed to be focusing on.
>He has Chapter 5 energy to me. He could fill in the important character role that would be left behind if Nagito/Hajime dies and be involved in a complicated murder plan.
That I can see yeah.
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>>720612287
There's the first 100 days that are probably like 40 hours alone and then 20+ routes after that are 10 hours long if you aim for all the endings, so you do the math.
actually slasher route is the only one I beat so far so maybe other routes are longer idk
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>>720615419
The question is really what they do with them. I don't expect many repeated roles at all, Kodaka knows that sort of thing would annoy fans. I can see Hiyoko as a culprit far easier than Mahiru, and I can see Mahiru as a survivor easier than Hiyoko for the reason you already stated.
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>>720615204
Shut up Souda.
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>>720615225
>A class trial only happens if the body is discovered, so what happens if a body isn't found? Everytime someone in the series is killed you find them the next day or immediately. Imagine somebody going missing and they aren't found for a good while or until the next chapter.
Wasn't there a doujin where someone gets killed (Ibuki I think) and thrown into the ocean?
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>>720615883
I've never seen it, but in the actual game that wouldn't be feasible due to the no littering rule
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>>720615457
Unless I'm misremembering, that tiny bit of trivia about Kuzuryuu taking Saionji's survivor spot came from an old artbook.
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>>720616068
From what I heard, the original idea was that Nekomaru died in chapter 3, Fuyuhiko became a robot and died in chapter 4, and Hiyoko survived
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>>720616068
I remember hearing about this when it comes to the artbook >>720616290 but I don't recall the Hiyoko surviving part.
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>>720604358
Wouldn't all the zombie homunculi simply get better again with time and food? They regressed for the blank week already and came back alright. It was really weird to have a heartfelt epilogue goodbye with Yakou when you've seen him alive already.
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>>720616370
I think Hiyoko surviving was just inferred by her not dying in Chapter 3
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>>720616373
In the DLC case he finds a cure made by his zombie girlfriend or something and I think it's implied all the others will eventually be cured too.
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>>720616290
I remember the Fuyuhiko robot part, it was specifically a reason where Kodaka felt like an asshole for "making light of Peko's sacrifice" or something like that by turning Fuyuhiko into a robot because of it. Too bad he didn't feel the same way about Nekomaru.
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>>720614449
>fiction truly does affect reality
Yeah, it entertains the viewer. It ain't shocking news
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>>720616290
>Nekomaru died in chapter 3
That was probably why he was just conspicuously left out of almost the entire chapter.
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>Nekomaru and Fuyuhiko's beta designs were swapped around
>they also swapped roles with one another
Huh. Neat.
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>>720616736
I like the Fuyuhiko we ended up getting but I really enjoy this design.



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