Heh. You're a queer fellow!
>>720598672Nah, I only like chicks. What's with the scar?
>>7205986724 u
>>720598889I got captured by this lame wizard and my jellybrain brother took his sweet time rescuing me
>>720599760listen bitch everyone knows you gotta minmax 2.0 int does nothing, NOTHING for a fighter so me having the mental capacity of a lobotomized rat simply means i am more capable in the areas that matter
Imoen, your brother went to a lot of trouble breaking you out of that insane asylum for silly mageling girls. Why have you not shown your appreciation physically?
wtf ur supposed to be dead
>>720598672im not trans tho
>>720600371Nuh uh! I'm too popular to die
>>720598672Damn. Anymore like this? I'm thinking about replaying BG2. but I'd like to switch out the greasy mutants of the original portraits.
>>720601404I've only seen that Imoen unfortunately.I just made this Jaheira but sticking her regular BG2 portrait in chatgpt and telling it "make this more photorealistic but still keep it as a painting"I also had to adjust the colors in gimp to take out the inevitable yellow cast.Not great really.
>>720601404Look up on Nexus. There's a bunch of portrait mods. One of them includes this Imoen if I don't remember wrong
>>720601167Lewding the Imoen like this doesn't really work. It lacks that tomboyish little sister energy.
>>720602412Discovering that your little (technically, step-) sister is not only a quippy tomboy, but also a ripe and fertile woman is the best part.
I like how she was a last minute addition in BG1 to fill a good-aligned thief role, and her voice was made up from leftovers originally belonging to a female guard character.Then they were going to kill her off in BG2, first at the beginning, then later in spellhold, but had to change course because everyone loved her so much.
>>720602790>Discovering that your little (technically, step-) sister is not only a quippy tomboy, but also a ripe and fertile woman is the best partYeah, it's sad that Irenicus discovers that before you while he had her captive in his dungeon
>>720602790>little (technically, step-) sister Half-sister. The poison blood of the god of murder runs in both your cursed veins.
The romance mod was surprisingly good, if a little too easy to break.
>>720603117Yeah I've heard it was rewritten from its initial mega-cringe format. I'm gonna try it out finally.
>>720603117Better than the Yrliet romance mod, at least.
>>720603226That first version has the PC rape her iirc, it earned that reputation. The current one shares nothing with the original.
>>720603824Ok cool, I'll try it out next playthrough.
Thank fuck she didn't show up in BG3
>>720598672her mods were cool
>>720603602That's some of the least appealing writing I have ever laid eyes on.
>>720602923Unfortunate, but all those sidequests in Athkathla won't do themselves. Also, when you both ascend she can just make herself a perma-virgin for you.
>>720602923You already get one obnoxious pure waifu in this game, let the rest of them be actual people instead of 2020s caricatures.
>>720604314I hope she sees your comments, cuck.
>>720598672I wonder what the hell sort of education Winthrop gave her...She keeps calling (You) queer, not to mention wanting to hear stories about 'trollops' and 'plugtails' if you keep clicking on her...
>>720603824i want to rape her tho
>>720603602is the writing of 40k autists? I expected better.
Well you're a fart smeller Meg.
>>720603602That's retarded. She shouldn't say its not zoophilia, she should say it is zoophilia and that she's debasing herself for you.
>>720603602Why can't people write decent romances like the ones in BG2 anymore.. you don't need to get explicit, it just needs to be cute. None of the romances in BG2 were anything like modern western RPG romances, and people loved them at the time.
maaaan, the LG Paladin CHARNAME needs a bad bitch
>>720605010That would require>imagination>experience with womenwhich are both out of reach for the average autistic romance-mod maker
>>720605212There has literally not been another character that punishes you for simp answers like she did. RPG writers are cowards who think hugs and kisses are the answer to everything
>>720604314>dude... like, do you realize how unrealistic is for a 18 yo girl in a medieval fantasy world to be still a virgin? it's not like medieval values and lifestyle is different from modern world or something, where girls go party every weekend night and fuck random guys after they turn 15 because her friends gaslight her into thinking that being a used up slut is "cool" and that is the only way to "enjoy your youth". No, no, man, SHE NEEDS TO HAVE A HIGH BODY COUNT, THAT'S WHAT MODERN CALIFORNIAN DEVELOPERS TOLD ME IT'S NORMAL FOR A FREE WOMAN YOU FUCKING MISOGYNIST INCEL
>>720605113It's pornbrain, I think.The writers of BG2 didn't grow up immersed in internet porn, they rather saw romances in movies and such which are very tame.The BG3 thing of actual sex scenes would have been unthinkable in the 90s.
>>720605456how long did it take you to write this, be honest
>>720598672MY LITTLE SEXTER!!!!! PLAP PLAP PLAP GET PREGNANT WITH BROTHER BABIES!!!!
>>720603602>what's this, "yrliet romance mod"? >I wonder what Elantach keeps in here?>BY THE ANCESTORS
>>720605471>The writers of BG2 didn't grow up immersed in internet pornyeah just the regular porn
>>720598672I love Imoen. I never played BG2 without the romance mod
>>720605620A picture of tits is far from Belle Delphine getting her holes ruined in extreme closeup
I believe I will play BG2 with a female MC, therefore Imoen sex is off the table.
>>720605684>Belle Delphine getting her holes ruined in extreme closeupI wish, that bitch is vanilla as fuck
>>720605523Milliseconds, I used my 4chud trained AI chatbot.
>>720605212>>720605386Doesn't she say that to Aerie or some other companion? I think I remember that sometimes giving her answers that are exceedingly nice may irk her a bit, but they don't break romance as far as I know.>>720605471Yeah... I'm no puritan, but personally, when it comes to normal games, I just want the romance to be... romantic. If I wanted something more graphical, I'd rather just play a porn game.
>>720598672I'll put my dick in you bitch show you who's a fucking queer
pure kino
>>720605762>I believe I will play BG2 with a female MC
>>720606179I've still got mine somewhere
>>720605762Woah, woah. Yuri with a magic cock. C'mon.
>>720606239I feel bad for any femanon who had to deal with the male romance options of early 00s RPGS. All complete trashAlthough Anomen does have a decently written arc, he's just a whiny asshole.
>>720605561i kneel
>>720606430>>720606239Yeah. Anomen's story is interesting, but I don't see how most women would find his personality attractive.I wonder what characters would be viable for a female Charname in BG2. Edwin? Haer'Dalis? Valygar?
>>720606179Damn, I used to have the manual. God knows where it is now, if it is even readable at this point. I wish I took better care of my old game manuals.BG2's manual was pretty big, it was quite unusual for a game manual to have that many pages. I remember it also had some side notes by both Elminster and Frollo. It was pretty great.
>>720603602Why do ESLs keep trying to write in english?
>>720606841Haer'dalis would be a popular with femcels, they like fuckboys like that.>EdwinNah too chuddyMinsc maybe?
>>720606430>All complete trashWomen went nuts for Alistair, DA:O is basically kept on life support for that stuff
>>720607329The real answer is Keldorn after we get rid of his whore wife
>>720607410Oh yeah true I forgot him>Haer'dalis>Keldorn>hidden romance with Jon IrenicusThat's enough for female players.
>>720599760Oh yeah, and you got raped by Duergar or something right? What was that like?
>>720606841HD was originally going to be another romance for female PCs. But it was cut. I suspect its no mistake that he's the character with a mini-romance as party banter. The HD/Aerie fling is even tracked with a "lovetalk" variable for him.
>>720607549I cared not!Actually they were too short to really leave an impression
>Begs you for sex>You give it to her>Breaks up with you permanentlyMan this is bullshit.
>>720607512>>720607410Keldorn could indeed work I guess, depending how you resolved his quest.>>720607614Yeah, I remember reading about it.Dude's a douche IMO, but idk what the female players want
>>720607890Yeah I remember I didn't understand it at the time, but I believe the reasoning is that she was feeling scared and unsure what to do, she mostly just wanted someone to calm her down and comfort her. You sleeping with her may have given her the impression that you just wanted a physical thing instead of really caring for her.It's frustrating, but it's somewhat realistic
>>720607890Realistic bullshit though, for a girl like her.
>>720605762>female MC, therefore Imoen sex is off the tableThat's where you're wrong.
>>720603602Why is it always subhumans with the worst writing skills ever who make these mods?
>>720598672Do people actually keep her in their party? I always ditched her.
>>720610148you go through so much bullshit to find her it's really anticlimactic to just dump her
>>720610141I think it requires a certain personality to make a romance mod in the first place, rather than a gameplay mod.
>>720610297Yeah the canonical play is Yoshimo -> Imoen
>>720605771ljl
>>720610148I really like playing thieves of various sorts, so I usually do not. But she's quite good as long as you go after her fairly quickly.
>>720598672well I guess if you want me to be
>>720602253Would breed.
>>720610491This. Unfortunately she is not a good thief by the time you get her back, but it is what it is.I wish BG had multiclass enabled for humans, so she could be a mage/thief at least.
>>720610148Yes because I like her and it's an easy game that doesn't warrant hyper-optimization.
Why can't you romance her?
>>720610831The devs were going to have her die in Spellhold, but her popularity made them hastily rewrite it. They didn't even bother writing any conversation at all for her after you rescue her, let alone romance, because she was supposed to be dead.Fortunately the romance mod fixes this problem completely.
>>720607890you have to say no at first and she jumps your bones later
>>720606430>deal with the male romance options of early 00s RPGS. All complete trashI can think of one exception
>>720610831Because she is your half-sister, but I think it might be implied that she had feelings for Charname.During a banter between her and Sarevok in Throne of Bhaal, if you decide to have her give part of her soul to revive him , he says he can see her memories, and that she has an unrequited longing for someone, but it is not clear who.picrel is the part off the dialog.
>>720611540>she is your half-sisterNot really in a way that matters though
>>720611540Oh yeah that definitely reads like she's thinking about Charname
>>720607337DAO came out in 2009 retard
In the ToB book Imoen fucks Sendai
>>720611690Yeah I agree, but some people would be weirded out by it anyway.
>>720610831Normies will panic at the slightest suggestion of "incest" even if it's not blood related.
>>720611979The books are terrible, and I ain't never seen a fan of the series who liked them.
>>720611540Doesn't she get together with Sarevok in one ending?Maybe I'm imagining on account of being too cuckbrained from playing owlcat games
>>720602253Looks kinda like Ana de Armas
>>720610148I've kept her in the party more than anyone else, since to me she fits in no matter which other companions you pick.
>>720612227Nah, she doesn't. She just goes and becomes a famous archmage , basically.Sarevok goes wandering around the world thinking about Tamoko, his dead lover ;Speaking of which, fuck BG3 for messing up the development and ending of the old characters, specially sarevok.
>>720612569>Speaking of which,Agreed, 100%. It was thrown in as lip service to tangentially connect the game to the earlier entries and it shows. Basic-ass surface level takes that serve to accomplish nothing but character assassination. But midwits who got filtered by BG2 of all things fucking love seeing the characters they read about in wiki articles and heard mention of in youtube essays.
Are there any portrait mods that aren't either tumblrcore or sloppa?
>>720612780Yes, the Ryoko Kui set.
>>720612775Yeah, it sucks so much, it shows total lack of love for the original games.I don't even understand why they thought this would be a good idea; the old players who actually knew these characters would at the very least find the behavior of these characters odd when compared to the old games, and the new players don't really know or care about them.Regarding Sarevok, if they really wanted to put something that paid homage to him, they could've just put some Bhaal fanatic donning his suit of armor and wielding his sword.
>>720612079Not even the author likes them. The only person who likes them is some anonymous wotc cunt who has always hated the BG games. Which is why we get dumb shit like charname being killed by a level one assassin in the opening of a DND encounters story
>>720611346Turns out the best way to write a male romance option is to write a cool bro that if your a woman will open up their softer side a bit more and will fuck you.
Male Protag x Viconia.Female Protag x Imoen.Simple as.
>>720613102Viconia and Sarevok deserved better after all they've been through.
>>720613426>Male Protag x Viconia.Required downer ending kinda sucks tho
>>720613426You CANNOT fully satisfy your little sister without a dick though.
>>720603602Yrliet does not work with dicks and cumShe is only suitable for a cute sexless lesbian relationship
>>720613684I was with you until the lesbian part. kys
>>720612775>>720613102If I recall Larian was limited by the official WOTC descisions on what those characters outcomes were before the game started.Same way the Cannon PC from the first two games got killed in a random adventure since either he dies or the Bhallspawn attacking him dies, and the survivor dies to revive Bhall because of some highlander style bullshit.
>>720613728Agreed, enough of this anti-male agenda. Yrliet is for headpats and handholding with a MALE rogue trader
>>720611540>I can feel his hands, his breath, I know what he did tou youdamn, so this 100% comfirms that Irenicus raped her. I mean, it was kinda obvious but I remember some months ago having a discussion with some anons about what the Dryads say, and they said that they didn't mean it in "that" way, and that I was just a cuck that had my mind ruined by NTR games
>>720613802>If I recall Larian was limited by the official WOTC descisionsWouldn't surprise me. The game was good in spite of its setting, not because of it. WOTC is such cancer.
>>720613934It's ambiguous enough that it's up to the reader's interpretation. It does read like an intrusion which might have been rape, but Irenicus doesn't seem that way inclined. Maybe probing Imoen's inner mind is a kind of rape, like forcing himself into those dreamworlds you visit with her.
>>720614114I mean, the dryads said at the beginning of the game that he was using them as mistress, and that they can see how Irenicus did the same to Imoen as he did to them (it was phrased something like that). But that at the end Irenicus doesn't find in them what he wants. Seems like he's emotionally hurt because of an old girlfriend who abandoned him, and he wants to get turned on, but he can't despite everything he tries. (the part of the gf I read it on the internet tho, but I think is official lore)
>>720613934Yeah, back when I first played (I was like 10 and didn't know english that well), I didn't understand the implications, but some years later when I replayed it, it seemed clear he probably did.He probably did the same with the dryads, and with who knows how many Ellesime clones... there's even one that manages to escape, but she is so afraid of him that she attacks you, thinking you are one of his lackeys.Dude's a freak, you can tell by the way he dresses.
>>720614462Why would a mage need a giant codpiece?
>>720613802>>720614019Yeah... if the game did not try to use old characters and mess with the lore in a way that screwed the old games, I'd definitely like it a lot more. I didn't even finish the game after I saw what they did.
>>720614412That's a consistent interpretation. It's been a long time since I played so I'd forgotten what the dryads said.Poor Imoen :(
>>720614574No idea, the codpiece and the exposed nips are a bizarre design choice. I also found it pretty weird for a mage to be so buff
>>720614019>Forgotten Realms when left to an outside teamInteresting epics with fun story telling and tons of interesting angles in a classic high fantays setting.>Forgotten Realms when written by its original creatorSmall Scale adventures of intrigue and violence in a sexualy libertine fantasy word>Forgotten Realms when written by the company in charge A dumping ground for whaterver half-baked shit the adventure writes came up with.
>>720614643It is completely unacceptable. I won't play any games from that dev anymore. I understand needing money, but being ready to do shit like this is telling.
>>720614462>I didn't understand the implicationsI played it for the first time a few years ago being +20yo and still didn't notice it for some reason. It was later after I had already finished the game that I discovered through internet of that part being mentioned and the implications of it.It was really hard for me to believe that they could do something like that to a beloved secondary character in an early 2000s game. Like, wasn't the all the stuff she had to go through there in the dungeon enough justification for her radical change in personality compared to the first game? Probably a dark fetish of some dev and so that was thrown there randomly
Kinda nuts how dark BG2 goes in its intro when you think about it. Multiple party members from the original game dead in horrible ways, Imoen tortured and implied to be raped... zero chance anyone takes a risk that like today. In hindsight it's a bit of a miss that charname doesn't get many opportunities to interact with any of that through roleplaying or conversation.
I still can't believe Imoen was RAPED....
Great, now I need to masturbate again.
>>720614875>>720614943I've never played the romance mod, does it have its take on this, or is it not mentioned at all? I know there's supposed to be a lot of dialogue between Imoen and other characters.
>>720606179This is mine, from 2005. Doesn't have the kino paper manual, just six cds in paper sleeves.
>>720615289Her trauma is a pretty big part of the mod, if not the main theme. It's done pretty tastefully, I'd say like Hanako from KS tier but it's not a very fluffy mod.
>>720615060in the hot summer of...
>>720615289In the original romance mod, Charname raped Imoen himself to discipline her for being brattyThere's a new mod that completely replaces the old one and is nothing like that. Apparently it's cute and normal, and you talk with her a lot about her trauma. I haven't played it though.
>>720615341>>720606179I feel like whoever made the discs cheaped the fuck out, those things would scratch and misread so easily. I had to buy multiple copies over the years just because disc was a bitch
>>720615432>Charname raped Imoen himself to discipline her for being brattyBased. That little brat needed rape correction
>>720614574>>720614843It's called "fashion", I wouldn't expect one such as you to understand.
>>720615432>Charname raped Imoen himself to discipline her for being brattyNow that's what I call a romance mod!
>>720614869I agree. It pains my heart to see it being praised as the best thing ever, when it just unnecessarily shits on the great games that came before it, even if it wasn't entirely Larian's fault.>>720614875Yeah, I feel like they went overboard with it. I mean yeah, I suppose it could be considered realistic since Irenicus is a monster who lost all his 'humanity' and tries desperately to feel something again, but I think the torture, forced imprisonment, murder and kidnapping of your old friends, and the attempt to destroy a whole elf city are more than enough reasons to justify the player wanting to confront him.>>720614943Sometimes I wish the old games had a proper remake, with newer graphics and adding cut content/stuff they didn't manage to put in the game in time, but I know for a fact they'd screw it up, so best to just leave it be.
>>720615498An excerpt
>>720615590
>>720615501Let your dick breathe you freak.
>>720615586I think that's why his more sympathetic dialogue was cut at the end
>>720615662They could have kept that in, to give some meaning to his trying to destroy those fag elves whom we otherwise had no reason to care about. We would still have had motivation to stop him.
>>720615590>go on roughly slapping her face in a frenzy
>>720615494I had to buy two copies after my first copy just stopped working for some reason too and this was early on when the big box version was still in stores. On a related note I also recently found out my original copy of KotOR doesn't work anymore either.
>>720615795I remember fully relating to Jon when I was in my edgy phase, now I wonder if that all was head canon. Pretty sure the dude wanted to become a god (who doesn't) but the elves caught him and the girl he loved didn't stand up for him (just like Veronica back in the days, that slut) so he had to live half a live in his hikkikomori sewer basement obsessed with that one girl and the thoughts of greatness and revenge.
>>720615662Nah fuck Irenicus, dude has been a monster for the longest of times.Even the fat spider lady in BG1 suffered in his hands (though the name was originally 'Jon Icarus' on the original, but the text in the journal seemed to imply it was supposed to be Irenicus)
>>720616153 Irenicus is entirely justified in that story, spider bitch kills his wife?
>>720616356True, she was a murdering hoe, but the last line made me feel bad.
>>720613448>ViconiaWait what!?They brought back the drown, what'd they do with her?
>>720616465You don't want to know, I mean it. I've seen the pictures.
>>720616465She's used for an optional one-off boss fight to make reformed Shadowheart look badass. I think there's a pacifistic route to deal with her as well if Shart stays loyal to Shar, but it's still miserable to behold.
>>720616465>looks old despite being an elf (Jaheira is a half-elf, and she doesn't look as old as Vic)>her entire personality and character growth went to hell
>>720616465Looks like she went on ozempic
>>720616937Imagine a person who created something like this having any respect for the source material, or any feeling at all that is not disdain. You can't, because they didn't. Our collective inability to get people like this out of the industry is the first and foremost reason for modern games being so shit. It's not fucking McDonald's, don't like your job - fucking quit it.
>>720613802>Same way the Cannon PC from the first two games got killed in a random adventureYou will never convince me that this shit isn't done out of petty spite from losers jealous of the greats that came before them.
>>720616502>>720616721>>720616937They could've savaged this by saying it was just an impersonator or something, and then the real viconia would come and kill her, without even revealing her own identity. She'd just do the deed, tell shadowheart Shar is a hoe, and then leave, all whilst hidden under a cloak concealing her identity.Viconia basically told Shar to fuck off by the end of ToB, it sucks that they made her crawl back to her again.
>>720617265>Viconia basically told Shar to fuck off by the end of ToB, it sucks that they made her crawl back to her again.It's so unrealistic and inconsistent that I'm comfortable writing off BG3 as non-canon
>>720617265>Viconia basically told Shar to fuck off by the end of ToBI don't fucking understand why they canonized Ward as good but ignored all the character development companions get with a good Ward. Jaheira is with the Harpers, Sarevok and Viconia are still evil, iirc Minsc doesn't mention Aerie at all... I just don't get it. Literally what is the point of bringing them back if they are not thr same characters? Is it really just for fags who read about them on a wiki?
>>720617792The BG3 devs never played BG2.
>>720617490Same, I just dismiss BG3 as non-canon, since it has absolutely nothing to do with the old games.>>720617792Same man. Like I said before, it doesn't make sense. The old players won't like what they did to the character they knew, and the new ones don't even give a fuck about them, so why the hell even bother to put these characters on the first place?Again, if they wanted to use Sarevok, just put someone using his armor and his sword, or make them be an animated armor sort of enemy. Just don't bring him back just to spit on his development.
>>720618117>an animated armor sort of enemyThese are good
>>720618117>absolutely nothing to do with the old games.
Hey hey hey!I didn't know that Imoen was a Cleric!
>>720619264So what?It having 'Bhaal' (who shouldn't even be back btw) doesn't really make it feel any more genuine to the series.The game is Baldur's Gate in name only.
>>720613453Downer ending that leads to drow genocide is best ending.
>>720620039If he had anything to say, he'd do so. All you're doing is arguing with yourself for his amusement.
>>720614412It is a correct interpretation, but that's not just from the emotional hurt, by removing parts of his soul that made him an elf, the gods also destroyed the bits of him that made him capable of romantic affection. Irenicus was crippled spiritually, mentally and physically, there was absolutely no way he could have redeemed himself, like Ellesime had expected of him, because the contradictory to redemption nature of the punishment inflicted upon him made it an impossibility.
>most of the characters in BG1 and 2 have American accents>all of them in 3 except for the BG1 and 2 holdovers have English accents
>>720620329I keep forgetting that he was originally an elf.
>>720620628Yeah, he was a powerful wood elf mage that decided that their pantheon sucked, which was true, so he devised a way by which he could replace them. It's debatable how much of it was hunger for power and how much of it was desire to improve things, but the means by which he attempted to do it, probably were similar to the shit Karsus had done - he was unfit to be a god, so if he had been allowed to continue, he probably would have destroyed all the wood elves.
>Imoen will never step on your dick
Guys with bratty younger sisters are so lucky.They have won the lottery of life.
>>720622027You know irl, you can't actually rape-correct your little sister.Well, you can, and it would probably work, but you wouldn't want to.
>>720605212No WRPG romance to date has matched the high that was teaching Viconia how to cuddle.
>>720614462>>720614574>>720614843>>720615661IT CANNOT BE CAGED. IT CANNOT BE CONTROLLED. Understand this as you die, ever pathetic, ever fools!
>>720622871I keep mixing up David Warner with Charles Dance, but they're not the same guy.
>>720598672STOP TOUCHING ME!
>>720622420At least you can tickle her, and no one can stop you.
>>720617189You can't even justify it with that one of the three dudes whop worked on it made Pools of Radiance and another was Ed Greenwood the creator fot he setting.Like the only explanation is that it was part of the fuckery going on with fixing the damage 4e did tot he setting with 5e doing a soft rest back to the 2e era status quo.Sadly they did that fix via fuck this>Bhaal's vestige compelled Abdel to move north to Baldur's Gate and became an enlisted man in the Flaming Fist.He started as a private and quickly ascended within its ranks. When Duke Valarken killed the Marshal of the Flaming Fist during the mid–15th century, Abdel took over as the head of the mercenary company. Despite his initial protests, he was also granted the title of Duke that traditionally accompanied being Marshal>On Returning Day in the Year of the Narthex Murders, 1482 DR, Abdel stood in front of a large crowd of Baldurians gathered in the Wide. Partway through his speech, he was confronted by Viekang, the only other remaining Bhaalspawn that managed to survive the bloody crisis that ended a century earlier. Viekang attacked his half-brother, and the crowd became uproarious. The two Bhaalspawn fought one another until one emerged victorious by killing the other. While it was unknown which man died that day, the victor of the battle underwent a gruesome transformation into the avatar of Bhaal known as the Bhaalspawn Slayer. Chaos broke out in the marketplace, and many in the crowd were killed>Eventually, the monstrosity was slain by the Flaming Fist, aided by a band of local adventurers.The following day, the city of Baldur's Gate held an austere funeral for Duke Adrian. As befitting his role as Duke, Abdel's body was interred beneath High Hall in the Upper City As it was during his life, tales of Abdel's adventures spread far across the Realms even after his death
>>720605212Redeeming Evil gets a paladin's dick harder than diamonds. It's just meant to be.
Is BG 2 the only crpg where being too nice causes romances to fail?
>>720623987In Rogue Trader, if you're too agreeable to Kibellah the death cultist goth waifu, she'll break up with you to focus on her career of slaughtering those marked for death by the Emperor's Tarot.You need to challenge her a bit to turn her into a tradwife.
>lawful evil male sorcerer PC>Jaheira (romanced)>Viconia>Korgan>Jan>Yoshimo (later replaced by Imoen, later replaced by Sarevok)Yep, its gaming time.
>>720624919That one was kinda fun, and kinda disappointing. I chose to try for the "you're just my tool" thing, which works in anime every time, and she just went full professional employee-employer relationship. No mindless ninja gf for my character.
>>720607890Woman moment
I can play through Shadows of Amn repeatedly and it never gets old but as soon as I get to Throne of Bhaal I just lose interest.
The worst thing about BG3 is they brought back Sarevok but didn't bring back his voice actor. Sarevok's VA in BG1/2 is perfect and his performance is kinoludo. In BG3 he sounds like a shitty impersonator.
>>720626126I was able to tame her but she still sent our firstborn to join the death cult just like happened to herNext DLC drop I'll romance the space elf, surely she'll be a loyal companion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cLuxizt_EsHé, c'est moi Imoenc'est bon de vous revoir!
>>720600118Oh, she has.
>>720610148I usually keep her unless I want to bro it up with Jan in an Evil playthrough.
>>720613175It's frankly unbelievable how much WOTC hated it, on reflection. They probably begged Larian to permanently destroy charname and the Bhaalspawn lore.Probably the same cunt that loved the Spellplague and hated the Time of Troubles.
>>720625771>lawful evil*tips ioun stone*
why is Imoen not dateable?
>>720614943I don't think it's just the beginning. The entire original trilogy is pretty dark, I think.Sure, there is humor here and there like with Minsc and Jan, but I feel the overall point the developers were trying to convey was that living on the Sword Coast sucks, and being a Bhaalspawn sucks extra hard. And even if you're a hero, it doesn't mean life will ever go like you want it to.That guy who becomes a chicken in the first game? Has a 50% chance to die if you try to turn him back. When asked why it happened, his teacher just says "that's what you get for fucking around with magic without understanding it, shit is dangerous".That random peasant who went to beat up a local troll nearby since he wanted to be an adventurer? Yeah, he's dead already, adventuring is deadly like that. Maybe you can recover his corpse if you don't share his fate.How are cities in the game? Mostly shitholes with stark class division. In Athkatla mage gestapo snatches everyone who casts shit on the streets, and doesn't care who started it. Unless you pay them off, of course.Are you a hero who saved an entire city from pointless war? Yeah, a random high-level mage can kidnap and torture you if he feels like it, he has the power. You have to remember, Irenicus has no relation to the whole Bhaal thing, he's just a random high- level evil mage who felt like becoming a god. It could literally be any other mage, god knows there are enough in the setting. For all you know, there were three others who succeeded at stealing the essence, you just never heard about them.When Bhaal's essence was pretending to be Irenicus and talking in your dream about he could kill a random woman who was generally pretty strong and successful because he is powerful and she isn't, at least not in that way? Yeah, it had a point.Playing through the game, I really felt like it was deliberately very dark and gritty. It didn't feel like a lighthearted adventure to me at all. Sword Coast is a shithole.
>>720628046why aren't you dateable
>>720628123i am nobody wants to tho
>>720628057BG1/2 is quite harsh in a 90s way that you don't get anymore.
>>720628057Life is strength, anon-kun. Make your mark.
>>720628123
>>720628057The thing in particular that I think BG1/2 do well is hit the balance of fun adventure and serious story/world. Like you compare it to Black Isle/Obsidian games like IWD or PoE which are a lot more grim/serious or Larian games which are a lot more silly/goofy. The latter games can still be enjoyable but BG1/2 hit the perfect sweet spot IMO.
>>720598672AND THE RIVERS RUN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEED
>>720626339Both VA's are still 100% active as well
>>720629245were xzar and monty /our guys/?
>>720629637They were discord trannies
>>720598672She should have been your older sister instead of younger
>>720629919Jaheira should have been your older sister, and Imoen your younger sister.
>>720609481>>720611076just like real life
>>720629982oh my god that's genius
>>720598672>no romance option for her
>>720605113have you seen the state of fantasy novels todaygame of thrones was a mistake and the consequences are dire.
>>720612974Damn these are beautiful.
Imoen my beautiful sister wife.
Fresh slop
>>720612029normies weren't playing computer games at the time, nevermind CRPGs.
>>720631139>he doesn't know
>>720607890>take advantage of a clearly unexperienced woman in a moment of lust and infatuation You know, for people who constantly prattle on about morality and righteousness, you don't follow your own rules.
>>720631639>eyes not red4/10, see me after class
>>720631139>and introducing Michelle Trachtenberg as "Imoen"
>>720631639Looks too old, like the shitty version in BG3.Make them young and hot, they're fucking elves.
>>720631868Yeah she is pretty old isn't sheChatGPT is uncooperative :(
>>720631639That's literally Pamela Anderson in her present no-makeup old lady form
>>720631751Bold of you to assume that people would only ever have sex with a vulnerable girl because they're just taking advantage and only want the sex. Never even occurs to you that one might provide comfort to someone they love and care about. And you dare bring up morality? Trash.
>>720598672What the fuck did you just call me?Damn bratty sister! Correction is needed!!!
>>720631980Sticking your dick into someone isn't necessary to show you care.
>>720632052But it does help
>>720598672The best part of BG2 is Imoen's Romance Mod.
>>720631980Ramming your dick into a vulnerable, frightened young woman is not necessarily the best way to calm her down.
>>720632028Heh. I am gone
>>720598672that's your sister
>>720632343out of ten
>>720632343ok and?
>>720632085No woman has ever felt emotionally supported by getting dicked down. Don't tell me you actually fell for the stupid internet memes made by literal porn-addicrted virgins.
>>720632085Maybe I just prefer an old fashioned approach
>>720632085Blowjobs feel great after a hard day but I’d be weirded out if my wife tried to suck me off after I heard my mom died.
>>720606179The only game manual I still have is the nwn one. Old manuals for dnd games were great, filled with backstory, game systems, spells.
>>720632414>>720632516eye contact must be maintained at all times
>>720632647>>720632734Nta but I've heard it commonly said that loss of life spurs desire for new lifeMakes sense to me since sex is a form of physical affirmation and affection but this is mostly limited to healthy relationships
>>720632828Imagine the quips,>Golly! You’re really going at it, huh? My real lips are up here!
>>720632869I can't say if that is true, but sure as hell sex for women is also something that they do out of spite because of something bad happening in their lives. Hence why a lot of women go and have a lot of sex with different men after they had a breakup. But the thing is, they always, 100% of the time severely regret it afterward.Which is what this whole conversation was about, Aerie regrets spreading her legs in the moment of weakness.
>>720631980Let me put it in a way you might understand;>Part of being a man is knowing what your woman really needs, even if she says something else
>>720632973>"Hey! That's not where you sheathe your sword- well, ok"
>>720598672irenicus' cumrag
>>720626339It would have made more sense if the Sarevok in BG3 actually was an impersonator. Hell, I'd accept if it was a Doppelganger.
>>720631436GoT wasn't the problem, Twilight was.Twilight was when publishers discovered both the goldmine of horny legbeards, then the fanfic of it revealed the fact that women were perfectly happy to read porn in public.
>>720598672sweaty unprotected sex within a tent with primal grunting from both individuals and an immediate bludgeon of shame and revulsion after climax, only then to immediately repeat the actions that lead up to said revulsion and shame
>>720633296women were always perfectly happy to read porn in public, that's what romance novels are.GoT gave booktok permission to write and promote endless enemies to lovers dark romantasy slop.
>>720631910ChatGPT is hardcoded to make all females look 40+
>>720626339Principal Luis is too basedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gF48L7cMdRw
always the gay option and even more planned cut gay romances like what the fuck is wrong with bioware? at least do yuri so I could fap to it, but nooo the only yuri you gave us is a black woman for fucks sake
>>720633487at least half of fantasy nerds are dirty fujos, and a lot of them work at bioware too.
>>720633387That pump was primed before the tv series came out.Sarah Maas was the patient zero of booktok shit, though. God knows why, all I know is that I automatically filter female authors due to that particular cancer
>>720633626>That pump was primed before the tv series came out.duh. the books are just as guilty, if not more so.
>>720633678ASOIAF was a relatively niche bit of edge fantasy coasting from Moorcock's heyday. It was more popular than most, but graphic sex wasn't anything new and it didn't cause a particularly large splash among women.That was the one two of twilight and shades
>>720606430Real women don't play RPGs, tranny. Or games in general.
Does BG ever explain why the main character isn't completely evil and corrupted? He is the child of the god of murder.
>>720633825every bhaalspawn has evil temptations but plenty of bhaalspawn can overcome temptation to better themselves or even just ignore it and live normal boring lives.you can choose the evil options or not. it's your guy.
>>720631980Well, apparently Faerun doesn't run on hentai logic and the mighty dicking from Bhaalspawn canonically doesn't make Aerie lose her mind and go dokidoki. Honestly I agree with you, but if I remember correctly the choice to bang her that first time is obviously spelled out as a bad one, even the teenage me could see that. Something on the level of "bwahahah Aerie, come and surrender your defenseless virgin body to my cruel and uncaring touch."
>>720633025Oh yeah I totally agree with you thereI think its why I like the Aerie romance the best
>>720628057I think that's what crpg worlds tend to be, tho. Like, in DAO for example, in the elf origin an important noble's son comes to the elven part of the city the day of your main character's arranged marriage is happening, and kidnaps your fiancé, the fiancé of your cousin and the sister of your cousin. Then, the first thing you have to do is go to the noble's manor to save them. But, while you get in time for both MC and the cousin fiancés, the female cousin has already been gangbanged by the noble's son and his friends.Arcanum has a lot of fucked up shit in them too. Like there's a quest where you have to unmask a conspiracy . There's a hidden island that was used for systematic breeding of half-ogres, ruled by gnomes who are rich bankers and businessman who have great power in politics in that world (does that reminds you of someone?). Women were kidnapped and taken to that island to get forcefully breed by pure ogres in order to create a new race (the already mentioned half-ogres). And also experimented on. Most of them died at childbirth because their bodies were not ready for the size of the "baby". You discover all that shit through notes and other evidence on the island. When you come back to the mainland to communicate with the guy that was helping you to reveal everything to the public, he was not to be found anywhere. He vanished. Instead, in his house, you find a gnome there who tells you to drop the case because you're a nobody and the public would never believe such "bullshit" coming from your part anyway. and that's how the quest ends
>>720603602even Skyrim porn mods have better writing than this
>>720633221I always assumed it was him doing what he did to MC, messing with the intrinsic nature to bring out the "godhood" he was obsessed with (bhaal form etc) which is why Imoen gets it too. I don't think it was meant as sexual.
>>720634578I really appreciate how she grows up in the middle of the game, I think she even apologizes to the PC for being a dumb broad. She gets her act together and is basically a new character from then on. I think that's true for Nalia, too. I wish more dev teams had writers talented enough to do things like that.
BG1 sucks ass, I don't see how people enjoy this garbage. 99% of the encounters are just AFK micro RTS battles. Can't stomach to finish this piss to get to BG2.
>>720635002BG1 is true freedom, brother. BG2 is great and all, but it's just another CRPG in the end.
>>720634852it's said specifically to imoen when she talksand if you played as a girl, you probably got your cheeks clapped too
>>720635002I enjoyed BG1 a lot because it's pure adventure kino. That said, I played it withe NPC project because everyone said it was a "must". Maybe I would not have enjoyed the game that much if the characters didn't have conversations and banters from time to time. Even if all of these at the end could be considered fan-fiction
>>720635071I don't think it's that big of a deal for a female hero. I mean, Red Sonja being raped is the core of her backstory, and for other female characters in fantasy getting into semi-sexual situations constantly is a given.
>>720635071Reallt? Damn, been a while and I never played as femMC.
>>720634680I thought Sseth made up all that gnome stuff as a joke
>>720635275i get a boner at the idea of my daddy's little girl drunk off her victory over sarevok dicked for as little a reason as her captor wanting to see if he would enjoy it
>>720635804>he doesn't know
>>720635804
>>720633792You say that, troon, but I know several women who played RPGs when your dad was still shitting himself
>>720635002fag
>>720636062Classic Tim Cain
>>720636062>be game dev>make RPG>racism from every direction out the ass>gnomish (jewish) plot to secure personal safety by conceiving a loyal supersoldier breeding program and infiltrate human society and own every bankOld leftie american devs were built different. Modern devs could not be further from this
>>720636062I will show my brothers the way.We are the spawn of Giants who shaped the world with their words.
>>720636659A FUCKING SPELLCASTING HALF OGRE now i've seen everything
How long until the inevitable UE5-7 remake?
my second character
>PRZED WYRUSZENIEM W DROGĘ NALEŻY ZEBRAĆ DRUŻYNĘ>PRZED WYRUSZENIEM W DROGĘ NALEŻY ZEBRAĆ DRUŻYNĘ>PRZED WYRUSZENIEM W DROGĘ...
>>720637372Kurwa, ja pierdole!
>>720612569>>720612775>>720613102>>720613448You're all retarded.Sarevok has TWO possible epilogues in ToB - one is you change his alignment to Chaotic Good and one if you keep him Chaotic Evil. Obviously they went with the latter for canon.Viconia's fate in the non-romanced epilogue is equally open-ended.
>>720636965>>720637106I will breed myself an army of spell slinging behemoths
>>720636062wouldn't it make more sense for it to be a male human and female ogre. I'm sure they have compatible sex drives removing the despoiling aspect, human men will fuck anything saipient, and ogre females would be more suited to pushing out half-ogres. but I guess that doesn't fit the author's fetish.
>>720631868>Looks too old, like the shitty version in BG3.She is pretty old in BG3, though. She's the equivalent of middle-aged for a Drow, and it's explicitly stated in source materials that Drow raised in the Underdark age visually faster on the surface.
>>720637646This.People forget there's a hundred years between Baldur's Gate 2 and 3.
>>720637552They're all demigods who end up doing petty, retarded shit for no reason but the writer's incompetence. Please stay in your containment thread, /v/ always has at least one at a time.
>>720637808She's an elf.
>>720638105Drow. And also >>720637646
>>720637808A 137, to be exact.>>720638105Yes, and elves live around 700 years. She's at least 400+ years in BG3.
>>720636659Be glad we have not crossed paths yet, otherwise I would kill you at sight you filthy beast
>>720638176Is that a modded portrait?
>>720637847Sarevok becomes the head of the cult of Bhaal, gets married, raises a family, and has the favour of his god. Hardly a "petty, retarded" thing for someone who lives only for power.
>>720638152Drows are a type of elf>>720638165Yeah but she's not near the end of her life span
>>720638397Sure, but as I said, it's also stated in source material that Underdark Drow who spend too much time on the surface age visibly faster (as in they look older than they are).Viconia has been on the surface since the fall of House Devir, which was in 1297 DR. For reference's sake, BG3 takes place in 1492 DR. She's been on the surface for almost 200 years.
>>720638565>Underdark Drow who spend too much time on the surface age visibly faster (as in they look older than they are).Isn't that some 2e lore that got retconned out 20 years ago together with drow equipment turning into dust on surface?
>>720638656No, that's still part of Lloth's curse.
>>720637586Yeah, I was thinking exactly the same while reading it. As a 27yo virgin, I would really debate myself on fucking a horrendous beast if that means finally get to know the wet, cavernous and warm feeling of being inside a vagina
>>720612569>>720612775Not even the Lead Designer for BG2 had Sarevok "good" post-BG2. He wrote post-BG2 material for 5e where Sarevok became a Chosen of Bhaal in modern times.
>>720638362Yeh. They're very easy to add. Even tho this one is from a portrait collection mod
>>720638741Because everyone and their mother considered the non-redeemed epilogue for Sarevok to be canon.Him going, within a few weeks, from Chaotic Evil to Chaotic Good was moronic.
>>720638741Bhaal is dead, bro. It's some kind of schizophrenia to try and have the BG's story AND the inane new lore together. Either pick one or the other, they don't match.
>>720638867>Bhaal is dead, bro.Everyone knew he'd be coming back. Just recall Myrkul's spiel in Mask of the Betrayer. He outright said he'd be back, along with the others, because gods can't really be killed. And 20+ years isn't enough to snuff out all the worshippers of a once massive cult.
>>720638867Anon, Bane came back not even a IRL year later after BG2 in the 3rd edition Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting.The campaign setting's creator was involved in bringing back the rest of the Dead Three back just before 5e.
>>720639106Sure, he even had a plan on how to get back. Too bad the charname and his crew put an end to that. You just can't have it both, and seeing you try is not amusing. The game's story is over, you can't milk it and pretend to respect the source material.
>>720635202>That said, I played it withe NPC project because everyone said it was a "must"This is generally a good mod, but Xan's quest is an absolute trash.
>>720605762the romance mod has lesbian sex
>>720639503I mean, this is just throwing a tantrum honestly at this point since nobody thought "he could never come back at all" after the BG games if they're familiar with Forgotten Realms at all.
>>720638176>disentegrates you
>>720638176>>720636965>>720636659Have you beat Stringy Pete?
>>720638713>get enslaved and brought to a gnome's private island>think you'll die in the silver mines>they bring you to a dark room>"You have to fuck these smelly, man-eating monstrosit-">proceed to use your half-ogre sons to overthrow the island and wage war on the Gn*me menacebut seriously, fuck gnomes
>>720639678kek of course it does
>>720635804He genuinely didn't make any of that up. It's actual Arcanum lore that the jewish gnome cabal kidnapped noble human women and forced them to be raped by ogres and die birthing half-ogres, so they could have good goylem half-ogres to protect them.
>>720642496>when you were hoping to roll lawful evil half-ogre minions, but got chaotic evil insteadThe only good gnome...
>arcanum>the only gnome companion in the game is the evil faggot who backstabs youTroika were cooking
i want to play an evil magedo i romance vic or do the imoen romance mod, havent romanced either of them yet
>>720643392You know there are lots more romance mods, right? I heard there's a mod that brings back the evil druid chick from BG1 to BG2, and you can romance her. Couldn't test it myself because the author wrote I absolutely needed Enhanced Edition to run it.
>>720627090Nice, didn't know it was fully voiced in other languages.>>720613175Right? I wonder who the cunt is, and why does he hate the series so much, Probably some fucker who got filtered by it.>>720622649Yes I agree. All three romances were great in their own way. No other romance done ever since has ever matched them. They keep trying to throw sex in the mix in a foolish attempt to make it more interesting, but the romance part itself is nowhere near as fulfiling or interesting, and the personality of the romance options usually suck, too.>>720628046See >>720611540
>>720643392BG1 and 2 are kind of bad for evil playthrough. Not really built for it very well at all.At most you can be "kind of a jerk" rather than evil.
>>720605386Morrigan in Dragon Age: OriginsKanerah in Pathfinder: Kingmaker
>>720643002>>the only gnome companion in the game is the evil faggot who backstabs youYou can actually convince him to leave in peace if you meet certain conditions.
>>720643681The single best romance mod by far is the Nahlia one.
romancefags please go
>>720635002BG1 is basically a low fantasy for most of the run. It isn't until you get to Cloakwood, which is Chapter 4 iirc, where it starts to turn into a high fantasy as you get high enough level and the encounters are similarly high level.I really appreciate that aspect of BG1, along with some random super strong encounters that just kill you, or random encounters with wolves or parties of hobgoblins that just kill you. It comes across as believable, hell in the middle ages getting robbed and killed by highwayman was a common thing.
Imoen is anal only for the safety of the world
>>720648398The randomly appearing Flaming Fist if you go below a certain Reputation was dumb, though. If that aspect was changed to something more inetersting, BG1 would move up on my list.
>>720646520You can be evil but there isn't much of a payoff to it in BG1 and BG2 proper. Most quests and encounters incentivize proper conduct. The biggest payoff in BG1 is that you can jumpstart your level progression by murdering civilians. Flaming Fist parties in BG1 are also good sources of armor and weapons you don't get until later in the game.
>trivializes late-game BG2 monsters
>>720648653fuck da world
