This is okay, but I really don’t get what the fuss is about or how it’s better than any other CRPG. Why did people hype it up like the second coming of Christ? The more I play, the more it feels like incels and troons (but I repeat myself) just lost their minds over the sex scenes and convinced the whole internet it was a good game. I’m also pretty sure this only won GOTY since Starfield sucked so much and they wanted to give it to a competing game.
>>720607017I mostly agree. If the entire game matched the quality of Act 1, then I'd say it's worthy of the hype
>>720607017First vidya RPG I've played in a long time where being a mage meant more than being a glass cannon with fire/ice animations
>>720607017It has extremely high production values and was heavily advertised. It's also a good game, of course, but that has less to do with it's success.
It's a high budget fantasy RPG in current year that isn't Dragon Age. That's literally it.If it looked like D:OS or an Owlcat game it'd be considered completely unremarkable.
>>720607017Because it felt like a return to form for a genre of game that had been spiraling the drain. Between the slow death of Bioware and Bethesda embodying quantity over quality, BG3 was just a solid blend of diverse CRPG mechanics and polished character interaction in a chunky semi-branching story. Couple that with the fact it had no forced microtransaction gimmicks or elements chopped out for DLC, and people ran with it. But yeah, the fact that every companion character is openly horny for you probably didn't hurt the marketing.
Do you think it will ever go under $50 or should I just bite the bullet now?
>>720607017it the first big budget crpg in a long time. now we have to wait ten more decades before we get another crpg.
>>720607017In terms of quest progression openness and sheer production values, it's largely unmatched in other CRPGs (unless you start going to stuff like Ultima for quest stuff).It's not that what they did is exceptionally good. It's largely nobody else is doing it, with that level of production values.You will never get a CRPG with this amount of choice/alternate means of quest progression/missable content because the suits will see it as "wasted man hours" if it's not seen by everyone.Only CRPGs made in non-American countries can compete with this. If they had the desire to.
>>720608442If the price is an issue, honestly just pirate it. It is on GOG. They already sold a shit ton of copies, more than they expected, you're not exactly hurting them at this point.
>>720607017Honestly the story is pretty gay and so are the characters. In everything else it's near 10/10
>>720607017It's made specifically for the Critical Role audience so the fags that soiface over that will soiface over this too.
>>720607017>Why did people hype it up like the second coming of Christ?They were paid to
>>720608872Not particularly, this was started long before Critical Role's success.It's sort of a backlash to when Hasbro/WotC started becoming a lot more censor-heavy and heavyhanded in between NWN1 and 2, where Obsidian was forced to turn a canonical brothel from the tabletop game into a "totally normal bar" despite Ed Greenwood having zero issues with brothels in his setting.The new people gave Larian a lot of leeway to go crazy....then Hasbro/WotC fired a shit ton of people, including all the WotC people who consulted with Larian, and WotC is returning to being heavy-handed again.BG4 is going to be a dumpster fire, I feel sorry for whoever receives teh project.
>>720607017>This is okay, but I really don’t get what the fuss is about or how it’s better than any other CRPG.Production values. Other CRPGS equal BG3 in mechanics, but they have simple isometric viewpoints even in narrative scenes and no closeups and performance capture. Most aren't even fully voiced. On the other hand, there are graphically demanding RPGs that instead use very simplified RPG mechanics. The last game to really try to do both fully before BG3 was Dragon Age Origins and that game is still beloved.
>>720608442Damn it’s still above 50? Just do it or pirate it. I was thinking the same thing a year ago before I went for it
>>720608239Correct answer
>I really don’t get what the fuss is It's a tencent astroturf. You know this. This is your second adspam thread schizo
>>720607017In a genre starved of something exceptional it stands out.I played it and enjoyed it almost the entire way through. The fact you could do a lot lends to how good it is.
>>720610848>adspam for a several year old gamekek, is this some new /v/ schizo or something?
tencent runs ads wholesale for every product. league of legends still gets shilled too.now reply to yourself so we can cringe at you
>>720611186League of Legends is a free-to-play game with ongoing F2P piecemail things to be bought, dumbass.Not a single-player game with zero DLC.
they are trying to sell the astroturf so people pick it up for mods. they are desperate to many even a dime after overpaying hasbro for the license
>>720611130No. Not new. It's a known schizo who's been doing this for years.Just ignore them.
>>720609623>Other CRPGS equal BG3 in mechanicsWhat other CRPGs
>>720611343Mods aren't bought, you moron.
>>720611351>replying to himself like the total schizo janny he isthere it is!
>>720607017DnD is a huge IP and when mixed with gay buttsex it targets a very specific but huge demographic.
Yeah the Chinese Bots demographic
>>720611356DOS2, PoE2, Rogue Trader, Wrath of the Righteous.
>>720609623>normalfaggots are now claiming that Dragon Age Origins was a hardcore RPGI called that shit back when the game released lmao. Same thing will happen with Skyrim eventually, when the most braindead and casualised bullshit counts as grognard-tier autism simulator because the game doesn't literally play itself.
Directly violates rules 2 and 6 of /v/, and this is the second thread protected by jannies today alone doing so
>>720608239t. has no idea what a CRPG even is and thinks the genre was "revived" with garbage like Pillars of Eternity
>>720607017It's still hitting 70k player peaks every day. The people into this DnD shit can't get enough.
>>720611662This board is so fucking fake, holy shit
>>720611648Dragon Age: Origins was Bioware's answer to Hasbro/WotC's at-the-time heavy hand on what they'd allow their licensees to do in their D&D games (not TOO dark, not TOO adult). So it was the first step towards what would eventually appear as BG3.It was scaled back a bit in terms of content because, at the time, they didn't believe they could do that level of production value with a bg2-level of content.It's actually why I thought /v/ was yanking my penis when they were saying BG3 would have flopping penises and shit. I never believed Hasbro/WotC woudl allow it.
because combat is fun unlike every other CRPG, inb4 "combat doesn't matter", but every CRPG is filled with combat encounters, random encounters and they all suck.
>>720611608Not at all, DOS2 comes close but the rest are way too strict with how you interact with the world mechanically and structurally. WoTR, beautiful game that I adore, but it has twenty million classes and like maybe 5 playstyles between them. Even just being able to jump and the systems around that add so much to Baldur's Gate 3 like the strength scaling, feather fall for traversal, sequence breaking that they game accounts for, etc.
Here's the "fun" combat chang is shilling
>>720611793I'd love to pretend it was because it's DnD, but honestly not really. Sword Coast Legends was DnD, but it flopped hard and was removed from Steam.I think /v/ might not like this, but I honestly think appealing to women with the sexual themes was HUGE for viral marketing, and enough to keep those same women talking about the game in online spaces (much like they would for Twilight or Undertale). I don't think it's a coincidence that the twinky vampire boyfriend that you can fix is the most popular character.
>>720611608>Rogue Trader, Wrath of the Righteouslol lmao, owlshills are insane, their games barely have any interaction with the game world and NPCs in it, I was surprised by how shallow they are after all the praise I've seen here
Reminder that you're arguing with consolescum who genuinely believes that Mass Effect and Dragon Age are "retro RPGs".
>>720611648It had an actually functional tactical camera, and simplified (relative to TTRPG conversions), but still fairly extensive character building. Yes, it's not Wishes, Timestops and Chain Contingencies. But there's enough there that I have no problem calling in an actual CRPG rather than some form of ARPG.
>"Generals"—long-term, recurring threads about a specific game—should be posted in /vg/. This is not to say threads about specific games cannot be created on /v/, just that long-term, recurring threads belong in /vg/.
>>720611793That's what happens when there's a game this high quality with nothing else like it.
bots >>720611581the game is shit >>720611903
>>720607017vertical combat, barrels, pools of water and shit = actual funcompare to bg1/2 which are just RTS', and the best "roleplaying" you can do is evil = money, good = xp
>>720612014You can clear the entire game on the highest difficulty by right-clicking on the enemy.
>>720612345Arcane Warrior right? Sure, but then you're leaning on a very specific build.
Astroturfed trash china funded and bought awards for. They won't report sales numbers because it flopped and was botted.
>>720612345>>720612583And honestly Abjuration Wizard can also sleepwalk through Honor mode in BG3.
>>720612343BG1/2 was a lot of fun for their times.BG1 was kind of basic, but a very solid 2nd edition AD&D game, especially compared to the Gold Box-style AD&D and Eye of the Beholders before it (much as I loved them at the time).Then BG2 was the first western CRPG to put a lot more into their companion characters with actual backstories, plus romance (which shaped almost all CRPGs after it, for better or for worse).BG3 is built on the backs of CRPGs before it. That's not bad, that's what it SHOULD do, but it's everything that came before it packaged in very extensive production values.
>>720612706I think BG3 is turbo casual shit too, not the best angle to take.
>>720612816Yeah except it has the build depth of Skyrim and the game falls apart halfway through Act 2.
>>720612929Okay? But I was comparing DAO and BG3 in the first place. Not everything needs to be SCS/Ascension/LOB or The Ultimate to be a CRPG.
>>720612594Are you also the guy in the VTMB2 threads?
>>720612594None of the numbers ever made sense. Definitely botted.
>>720613107>Not everything needs to be SCS/Ascension/LOB or The Ultimate to be a CRPG.I would prefer that over people claiming that a casualized RPG made primarily for consoles is somehow a CRPG.
>>720612981It's not really the build depth that makes the game, but the narrative choices/quest openness.From interviews, it seems Larian is well aware of the limitations of 5e DnD and prefer their own systems. (even though I personally hope they NEVER do DOS/DOS2 style of MMO-like itemization, I prefer BG3's itemization)
>>720613268>but the narrative choices/quest opennessOh you mean like how towards the end of Act 2 the game turns to total shit in that regard and never recovers?
>>720613178Have link to some of the nonsense posted in the VTMB2 threads? If it's him, should be pretty obvious since he posts very similarly every time, especially when responding to himself as "other anons".
>>720607017I honestly thing it was all paid for, there were dozens of videos about this game recommended to me on youtube when it came out, but after a couple months it all just disappeared, the last 2 years or so the only place that mentions it is 4chan, always with the same company-approved picture in the OP. Considering there were no DLC to milk this supposedly crazy successful game, it all looks pretty clear to me.
>>720613316Nope.
>>720607017>Dumbass opinion>cries about trannies like every other thread for no reasonMaybe you're just fucked in the head broIf you want an honest answer>Baldur's gate is a franchise with loads of long-standing admiration>Larian continues to be one of the last vestiges of true RPG gameplay in video games, creating games that play more like their pnp predecessors and less like click + button to make thing do more damage >If you really want to role play like the good old days, this is the closest most people will get if they don't have access to role play groups >Managed to make a game like this with proper voice acting/cutscenes all the way through, when D:OS2 was already impressive as fuck with most of the game's interactions being text pop-ups Baldur's Gate 3 is the game all those "your choices matter" AAA RPGs claim to be.
>>720613330Nah, I don't think theres one up at the moment but I'm pretty sure it's him. It's a very similar flavor of autism. The same sort of oblivious confidence he has when multiple people are making fun of him by pretending to be marketers
>>720612594What exactly is your point here? Do you know what an embassy is? I'll wait, take your time. I legit want to know why you think this was a good post.
>>720607017>The more I play, the more it feels like incels and troons (but I repeat myself) just lost their minds over the sexReminds me of Witcher 3.Garbage gameplay worse than many shitty chink souls clones yet 10/10 everywhere.
>>720613592You're talking to a brick wall dude. I've seen this guy btfo dozens of time. It never sticks. It's actually sort of incredible. For a while I wasn't sure if it was an actual human or some sort of fucked up bot.
>>720607017The story is shit, the setting is boring, the characters are trash, the writing is bad, the combat is often annoying and retarded, it's buggy as hell, the game loves to waste your time for no reason. And yet it has this je ne sais quoi that makes it very enjoyable to play. It's very flawed yet I still rate it quite highly personally. It's kinda like persona games in that sense
The production values are very high with the top tier voice acting and character animation. And then there's the le heckin immersive sim gameplay or whatever.Overall the game is a bit of a fucking mess and turns into a boring slog halfway through act 2. People just basedpog over the first 10 hours and then call it game of the decade without even getting close to finishing it.Oh yeah and the terrible romance shit.
>>720613704don't reply to yourself. it's cringe. you know this because you get btfo every shill thread you make
>>720613791>People just basedpog over the first 10 hours and then call it game of the decade without even getting close to finishing it.Literally every single person I've ever talked to about this game was exactly this.
>>720613791It has a massive completion rate for a game of this type and length
>>720613791I always find this viewpoint weird. Act 3 is my favorite part of the entire game.
>>720613993What do you like the most about it?
>>720611909It helps that the twink vampire's VA absolutely killed it. Some other anons touched on BG3's production value and quality VAs is a huge part of that.
>>720607017Name a better CRPG with better graphics and writing than BG3
>>720614028I love the scale of the city and the day-to-day stuff you can encounter with the changing newspapers.I have Lae'zel built for crazy jumping, so she can jump from building to building, which is not inherent to Act 3 itself, but I found a lot of fun.BG1/2 was super small scale, but was fine for the time, but it was awesome actually seeing a much bigger representation of a fantasy city in a CRPG, especially for having the power level you have by the time you're in the city.In Act 1 and 2, even though I enjoyed them, there's a lot of just sort of empty space in between points you're getting to. The city of Baldur's Gate feels full and filled with life.But keep in mind, I never got to Act 3 back when it had the performance issues I heard so much about, so I didn't have my experienced soured by that.
>>720611909>I honestly think appealing to women with the sexual themes was HUGEThis is pretty much it, you go into any BG3 thread and it's all about the romance. Most of the actual players are probably people on story mode or whatever for the romance, the rest is botting from the chinese. That said, most of the discussion around any CRPG seems to be about the romance.
>>720614230Quest 64:^)
>>720614327Anon, this is /v/. The place where a dating sim about cripple girls was the most talked about video game in its entire history.It sells. There's a reason why BG2 was as loved as it was for the longest time. It introduced romances to CRPGs.
>>720614327I'd be happy to answer BG3 build questions if you have any.
>>720614420>It introduced romances to CRPGsSuch as they were>>720614435I don't actually know much about the game itself, but I usually come into these threads to see if I can catch any gameplay discussion to see if it's worth picking up. How do you run through the game?
>>720614420>There's a reason why BG2 was as loved as it was for the longest time. It introduced romances to CRPGs.The genre has never recovered.
>>720614526Josh Sawyer would agree with you. He HATES romances in CRPGs. Probably felt like his nuts were being crushed when he was forced to add them in NWN2.
>>720614526Arcanum came out one year after, and it was fine. Then we had Bloodlines in 2004 with no romance bullshit. It's not about the genre, it's about talented devs having no place in the industry. Same thing happened to anime, you either sell a lot or you create good things.
>>720614658I guess I agree with Sawyer, but I think most of the companions in his game are dogshit. I hate most of the NV companions.
>only one mention of SCS in the threadI guarantee that most BG3 "fans" have only ever "played" BG1&2 through the shitty Beamdog re-release and had an experience similar to CohhCarnage, the representative of that entire target audience: Lowest difficulty, no interest in learning any of its system and discovering what the spellbook is during the final fight against Sarevok.
>>720607642That's just intrinsic to D&D though, and arguably most other D&D games do it better because you're not so heavily hindered by the concentration mechanic
>>720614754>discovering what the spellbook is during the final fight against SarevokI remember some anon linking that clip in a thread a couple of weeks ago. It's insane that this faggot has a reputation as a grognard.
>>720608607A lot of "best game ever"s these days are just 7/10s that stand out in a sea of garbageBut instead of raising their standards, people just set 7/10 as their new "best" and solidify the industry as it isAs someone who wants games to be good, it's frustrating
>>720614754Secondaries are the death of franchises
>>720614754I'm sorry that you feel this way. I get where you're coming from, but BG3 has plenty of great encounters and harsh challenges for the unprepared player to overcome! Maybe you should give it another chance instead of outright dismissing it like that.
>>720615026I played it, I think it's an okay game overall with some hints of really good stuff here and there, but it should never have been called Baldur's Gate 3.
>>720607017it's baby first CRPG. that said the sandbox is pretty impressive and can border on being an immersive sim at times.
>>720615026>but BG3 has plenty of great encounters and harsh challenges for the unprepared player to overcome!Who the fuck talks like this?
Tranny game fuck anyone who likes it
>>720615116Marketers
>>720614519Personally as standard it makes a lot of sense to run you PC as a face with one of the CHA based classes, it helps that they're all pretty powerful. But the simplest run with the most party flexibility is probably a Swords Bard 10/Fighter 2 archer build. Since you are a party face, locks/traps guy, support mage and incredibly lethal fighter all in one. Companions I usually try to respec them into a more powerful spec that still fits their general concept. For example, for Lae'Zel that's been Eldritch Knight with Booming Blade to abuse War Magic since Patch 8. But Arcane Archer, Battlemaster or Throwing EK work well for a Githyanki too. Shadowheart gets respeced to Death and may switch to Light depending. Gale is either left Invoker or made Diviner or Abjurer, etc. Honestly though, the game isn't so hard that you absolutely need to optimize everything. I've even run Astarion as straight Arcane Trickster before, and that's generally considered one of the weakest classses, Arcane Ambush is not that bad. The only classes I really would suggest avoiding for single or multiclass are Drunken Master monk, Champion Fighter, and Hunter Ranger. And the latter two are mainly because they're boring as hell.
As someone who liked BG3, you must be joking when you seriously want to discuss builds for that game. Literally just click on whatever during a level up and you'll be fine. Yes really.
>>720615213How's the environmental interactivity work with class picks? The DivOS games were pretty tight with that and I understand Larian kept that in, but the use of 5E systems makes me wonder if they reworked what I'm used to.
is there a mod that enables some semblance of combat instead of the retarded live dice roll fest it is
>>720615307You have around 15 feats to choose from on levelup, which results in dozens of possible combinations player can try out during one walkthrough.
>>720615443you have an actual request for something, or just nonsense buzzwords? hard to help out otherwise
>>720615307yeah not to mention consumables and gear that set your stats to maximum, and how broken haste is
>>720615307yeah the game isn't really hard enough to justify any kind of minmaxing, maybe honor mode but the ironman nature of a game that takes a few dozen hours to clear has turned me away from that mode. That said it is fun to really tinker with setups to see just how strong you can make yourself>>720615372environmental interactivity is still present, but very subdued as compared to OS2. You can do some strong stuff with water and lightning, and there's some decent spells that create floor hazards like firewall, or ice storm to create a big slipping hazard but you're not shitting cursed bloody fire every turn. In exchange there is more to play with in the environment that can help, like shooting down a light fixture onto people's heads, more bottomless pits to push people into, the ability to pick up environmental objects to use as weapons or to throw like chairs barrels etc. etc.
>>720615637I assume he wants the animated dice rolls removed entirely
>>720615449>which results in dozens of possible combinations player can try out during one walkthroughNo offense but you genuinely talk like a marketer.
>>720615372There's mobility to tack advantage of verticality and various pushes and/or forced movement effects to shove people to their death. Also the Wet condition is super strong for boosting Lightning and Cold magic so the Create Water spell ends up quite strong. There's also lots of goofy stuff you can do with explosives. But it's not as extensive as DoS2. The nature of D&D5e tabletop is just that it cares a lot more about what the PCs and monster can do than what the environment is. So that limited Larian a bit.
>>720615693animated dice rolls don't happen during combat
>>720615671>very subdued as compared to OS2Damn, that's a shame
>>720613854>identity politics pajeet gets disagreed with>wmaa samefag saarThe russians aren't paying you fags enough
>>720615637LESSRNGIN COMBATUNDERSTANDINGS NOW, RASHNED?
>>720615782Better time, better game(Personally prefer BG1 though)
>>720615787turn on the weighted dice option for less RNG, spastic weirdo
>>720615770I disagree, I quite liked it. Having to deal with shocking water in OS2 was a nightmare for any melee character because of how widespread it could be, you're already weak to magic based CC thanks to the DOGSHIT armor system and just touching the water slightly ended your turn instantly. You can still set up hazardous terrain in BG3, it's just not as oppressive as it was in OS2.
>>720615738Something I always enjoyed doing in actual tabletop was wacky environmental shit ala Goblin Slayer, DivOS pretty much being that was top tier. At least there's some things like that you can do in BG3.
>>720615782I don't have any of my manuals or discs anymore, but I haven't thought of that in ages.Thanks for the nostalgia shot. Those were good times.
>>720615787I bet you're the kind of pussy who reloads every time any diceroll doesn't go your way. go play CoD if you can't deal with RNG bozo
>>720607017Because it's a porno dating sim
>>720615953only way you could possibly think this is if your only exposure to the game is 4chan posts
>>720616013Okay, tell me about your favorite non-boss encounter in the game.
DOS1 and 2 are actual shitGenuinely surprised Larian managed to make the best CRPG of all time with BG3, must have had Hasbro people breathing pretty heavy down their necks during development.
>>720615953this is some "Mass Effect is a sex simulator, it's not an XBox it's the SeXBox" late 2000's nonsense.
>>720615307>>720615449Actual feats are mostly irrelevant outside of a few outliers like Tavern Brawler, Great Weapon Fighter, Sharpshooter, and to a lesser extent Polearm Master and Sentinel. Many characters only end up with two feats thanks to multiclassing and just take two ability score improvements to max out their primary stat. That said sure you can just pick a class and single class the whole way. But between fully open multiclassing and all the subclasses available there's quite a bit of variety and optimization available in character building.
>>720615943you are trash at vidya, crusty bald unc
>>720616097It literally is a porno dating sim though, that's why it's so popular
>>720616097You're right, most of Mass Effect is garbage console cover shooter gameplay with zero challenge or excitement.
>>720616168Still more actual game than the 'rpgs' of today which are just porn vns
>>720616214I don't disagree with that, which is why I keep calling out both kinds of fags. People who have nostalgia for Mass Effect are no different from people who think BG3 is the greatest RPG ever.
>>720616082DOS1/2 was them building up their team for that style of game.If you play them in order, you can actually see them get better from game-to-game, which is kind of cool (if you can put up with the silliness of DOS 1)Surprisingly enough, WotC very specifically were NOT heavily involved in the specifics for BG3, they were largely very hands-off "do what you want" and were largely lore consultants with maybe some suggestions apparently.But then Hasbro/WotC laid all those people off way later on (and it's believed they're going to be far more hands-on, possibly censor-heavy all over again like the 2000's.)
>>720616045the halsin portal defense encounter easily. You gotta defend the portal for a set amount of turns while waves of enemies keep spawning, loads of opportunities for huge cleaves with magic and if you build a martial with polearm master you can set up a good melee wall because you'll get attacks of opportunity when some bozo tries to bumrush the portal past you.
>>720616168Talking specifically about that post's retarded "hrr durr it's a porno simulator" nonsense. Literally some Mass Effect "it's a sex simulator" nonsense, which is simultaneously hilarious and cringe.
>>720616375Take your meds
>>720616321I see no problems with ME1. It's a decent RPG, I'd say even a pretty good one.
Retard coomers are big mad they got exposed
>>720616375it's a known schizoalso why he projected with the "take your meds" thing, because he used to get that posted towards him all the time
>>720616406And that makes you the target audience for BG3. You will never "get it" and that's okay. It's just video games at the end of the day.
>>720616406it's alright. problem with basically every bioware RPG post BG2 is that you are not allowed to multiclass. Kotor sort of lets you with jedi classes and the prestige jedi classes in 2 but in ME and DA you're locked to one class the entire game. And somehow DA has less class variety than Mass Effect.
>>720616467Are you seriously so mentally ill that any criticism of the game gets applied to this boogeyman that apparently lives rent free in your vacuous skull
>>720616489I guess as long as it makes sense inside that little head of yours...
>>720616467Nigger I was talking about Mass Effect, don't you dare confuse me for the CCP schizo.
>>720616596Coomers are totally brainfucked and will fall over defending their waifuslop.
>>720616534I've never understood people liking any of the Dragon Age games. Extremely boring, trite setting, barely any build variety, that fucking repetitiveness of everything. It's so bad I wouldn't even be able to say it's better than BG3 without lying.
>it's another anon totallykek
>>720616653It's usually console normalfags and assorted brown people.
>720616596>720616650>1 min
>>720616653DA:O has a pretty interesting setting and decent character writing which carries the experience but DA:O was basically babies first CRPG when it released so lots of people look back on it fondly because it was their first exposure to the genre. Build variety and such is ass though I agree entirely, I replayed most of it recently and got bored before I went into the deep roads.
>>720616467>it's a known schizoThat explains the weird responses.Fucking /v/.
>>720614028I think act 3 has the best encounters by far, act 1 encounters are kinda bland in comparison. Also it's nice actually wrapping up those game long quest even if a couple of them end up underwhelming.
Should I be dual-wielding or dueling as a Swashbuckler?
>>720618440Largely up to you, but I generally dual-wield just as an extra attempt if I miss with the attack (ensuring that sneak attack)If the main attack lands, I might use that bonus action for one of the cunning actions.
>>720607017it's a CRPG that's actually fun to play. Combat is fun, exploration is fun, talking to NPCs and doing skill checks is fun.The dating sim elements are actually one of the weakest parts
>>720619483What's so fun about the NPCs in the game?
>>720615213I don't understand what everyone is complaining about with Drunken Master. It's leagues better than Four Elements, while being fun as fuck. It's also one of the few new subclasses introduced in Patch 8 that isn't just a mere reskin of other older subclasses (i.e., it features new animations, has gear specifically tailored to the subclass, etc). Is it as strong as Way of the Open Hand? Obviously not. But it's still decent enough to content with the likes of the Shadow Monk. If you want the truly boring classes, stick with a Tav/Dyrge Warlock, and be in awe at just how truly lame your Patron is compared to Mizora.
>>720614725Both you and Sawyer sounds like massive faggots. No wonder New Vegas was filled with gays and raped lesbians.
>>720619483i think its due to production value. nice 3d models, voiceacting, animations, spell effects ect, every other crpg looks like walls of text and bg3 is more in line with modern aaa games
>>720615787skill issue
>>720619615can't speak directly for him, but there's a lot of NPCs that have some fun interactions, like the washing my pits gnome in Act 3, and the bird that talks like a General if you have Speak with Animals.
>>720619615lots of effort put into them both in terms of presentation with the voice acting and the amount of dialog, including a lot of class and race unique options, you can have with many of them.You can also talk to almost anyone and for being a CRPG you're often reasonably free in what you can say
