Is it really that bad?
once you get past the console jank, it's a real hidden gem
>>720611543No. It filters many.
>>720611543Not really. It just lacks the depth of the first one.
>>720611543worst deus ex besides the fall
>>720611543Bad? It is just console friendly
>>720611543No, I played it this year and was surprised at how decent it was after hearing it's terrible. It is kinda dumb though and doesnt even come close to the first game.
>>720611543It's not bad. But it was clearly designed for X-box. Besides which only the opening scene (Atlanta) is cool, everything past that is just so-so.>We never see a Nanovirus(?) that nearly takes out an entire city ever againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLDlDG1q0_o
>there are people who think the omar ending is the best ending
Does it have the same protagonist as the other games? Or is it spin off garbage?
>>720612057
>>720612082You play a literal who rookie cop and JC Denton turns into Cyber Jesus
the only Deus Ex I played was the "I never asked for this" on PS3. I had a non-lethal stealth build and got stuck at a boss I couldn't use stealth on and just gave up.I wanted to play the OG DE because I recently went back to Half Life 1 and found it fun and charming despite its age.
>>720612057Best thing since sliced bread.Unified ammo is the future or IRL and fictional settings, like how Mana is for magician.>>720611543It's the best and most dynamic of the dudesex installment.
>>720612171that sounds pretty bad, but could be executed properly
>>720612171lol
Speaking as someone who's played every deus ex game, it's my favorite. I understand why it's thought of as bad, and it is probably objectively the worst of the series, but I still like it the most.
Shit ui, lags like crazy on my pc. I recalled it was a short one or maybe I dropped it halfway.
>>720612369Anon just trollin your ass, you play as some special labrat clone of JC then uncover the conspiracies around you and yourself, JC becomes the matrix with everyone connected in tho, which is one of the ending unlike the three color button shit like those last decade games.
>>720612456how do you like it more than the original?
>>720612354>IRLAbsolutely not. While it can be done in a wide amount of implementations within limits allotted by matter types, and has practical value, it still encroaches on ammo market and joy of using weapons in non standard ways. It shall not be allowed to take the market completely for many reasons, including technological independency and bloc based weapon denial.More importantly, universal ammo isn't a thing the moment you install it in your gun, simply because bullets become processed.Wasting chemical energy on making, converting and processing universal ammunition can also be logistically expensive compared to normal or even exotic matter.
>>720611543>FORM MY OPINION FOR MEZoomers should be gassed
>>720612672lmao
>>720611543Yes
>>720612916Kill yourself
>>720613069Nah. I've decided not too since I can think for myself unlike you.
Then imma go gel my hair
>>720611543It’s same as the first just scaled back a bit in terms of level size but honestly it isn’t that noticeable. The universal ammo is retarded in concept and you have a very limited amount of ammo so you can’t really go guns blazing if that’s your style. The world building is actually cooler, I really liked the Omar and JC and Paul Denton are elevated to legends, I don’t really see why the player character would help any of the Illuminati factions. The greys are cool and play a larger role but I won’t spoil it anymore. Play the game anon, it’s like John Carpenters The Thing in that after all these years people are realizing it’s greatness. NOT A MEME
>>720611543As a sequel, yes, it's an immense failure compared to the original. As a standalone game, no, though it's still heavily flawed. Tiny levels, slow-reacting AI, universal ammo, story is half-rehash, etc
>>720611543No. Its pretty good. Not as good as the first game but I'm not sure anything is.
how does this run on w11 with all the wiki fixes?
>>720612296After playing the original, it's hard to go back to the new ones. The writing and music were so much nicer. Note, fan mods fix bugs and improve some shit.https://www.pcgamingwiki.com/wiki/Deus_Ex#Modifications
>>720611543It's a masterpiece
>>720611543Cool game.
>>720611543Yes, it's somehow overrated now because people are revisionist about itLiterally the only reason why this is remembered at all is because it's a dogshit sequel to Deus Ex
>>720611543Yeah, even putting aside the annoying compromises made for consoles, there's a lot of really fucking dumb design decisions. Making cameras instantly sound the alarm if they spot you was pretty dumb (and coincidentally probably wouldn't be as bad if it weren't for the fact that they fucking removed leaning) and the universal ammo system is god awful. Basically makes having more than one weapon that uses ammo pointless because if you run out of ammo for one weapon, you run out of ammo for all your weapons. Also Alex comes off as a dickless faggot compared to JC Denton.
>>720619305I don't think it's revisionism as much as the fact that people can actually play it now after 20 years of mods and fan patches. On release it had the horrible console UI, atrocious input lag, and rampant glitches making it nearly unplayable. Performance was pretty bad too if I recall correctly. Also it made your CRT monitor freak out at every level transition because it was made with TVs in mind and would switch resolutions during menus like a game from the fucking early 90s when developers were absolutely clueless.
>>720611543Yes. It's pone of the worst games ever made.
>>720616434Is GMDX RSD actually worth it over v9?
>>720620140Nigga, you can’t even type
>>720620302Pone is a word.
>>720620302Quit yellin at him
>>720620279I actually liked v10 better.
>>720620341If you want pone, go to /mlp/.
>>720611543If you treat it as a non-Deus Ex game it's ok.
this was the first of many failures by harvey smith, literally every project he's been in charge of has been a flop: Invisible War, Blacklist, Dishonored 2, Death of the Outsider, Redfall. The man is a walking disaster for immersive sims. Still can't believe he let Anita Sarkeesian ruin the Dishonored series
>>720611543It's terrible compared to the original but I still enjoyed it. The religious themes were cool
>>720612296The original Deus Ex is 10 times better than the Adam Jensen games imo. Definitely check it out
>>720611543its way worse6th gen console fps are some of the worst turds on this planet
>>720611853>the fallYeah, what were they thinking?!
How's this?I know it's somewhat related to Deus Ex because it might have been a Deus Ex clone at some point in developmentI refuse to watch E-Celebs talk about this because I hate them so I want some anon opinions on it
>>720611543it's not like unplayable or something, but compared to the first one it's really boring and shitty. The guns are boring and the story is boring and it looks ugly and the levels are so small and cramped, like picrel is supposed Lower Seattle and it's just a tiny little box room, and most other areas aren't much bigger. It doesn't really open up until the end but the levels are just baron, so there's almost no incentive to explore. And every time you enter a door or anything the whole game closes back to windows desktop and has to restart, it's stupid. The last stage of the game is the first stage of the original too, and Deus Ex 1 had a bit of a reputation for having a kinda boring first stage, but in IW they managed to make it even more boring.
>>720621919>baron*barrenAlso, a lot of the characters stand around in t-pose which looks stupid
>>720619606>Making cameras instantly sound the alarm if they spot you was pretty dumbt. burglar
>>720621919When I first made it to Lower Seattle I spent 10 minutes trying to find an exit thinking I was lost in an alleyway before it dawned on me that this is the size of the levels
>>720621520lmao
>>720619606>Also Alex comes off as a dickless faggot compared to JC Denton.You're just impure in heart. Brother and sister Dentons are just colder and are playing dumb. They are children of the collapse, different times.More importantly, they were trained at Tarsus, which serves ApostleCorp. One can infer that they are raised to be more calmly observant, without specific indoctrination, in hopes that they will be more naturally aggreeable to JC and Paul's rhetoric by its natural merit, not withstanding whatever other psychological parameters they had set by their original makers back then.
>>720620434You're kidding, that one sounded like a bad idea and I didn't even consider it. The changes are good?
>>720623020>children of the collapseBro, in the original the collapse starts in the 2020s and never ends, just look at the state of America, vs DX2 where after global communications are shut down the world almost immediately not only rebuilds but then goes on to make futuristic sci-fi megastructures/cities
>>720621520There's no way that's real
>>720623770https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEpfTfgzWp0&t=613s
>>720623892>TBHow does the time go by so fast?
>>720623704Post-Aquinas collapse still affects the planet, in particular it affects Illuminati plans, which means a lot of screws are tied down, thanks to JC's actions.Yes, some things became better, more advanced even if Omar ending implies imminent total strife in historic timetable, but the battlefield is not the same.The time for philosophical thinking is gone, it's the endgame between 3 faction that reflect 1 unnamed entity.
>>720624065>the Illuminati are constrained/incognito>therefore Alex D can't read a book
>>720624125The two aren't unconnectable.But really, he's not big into books.
It's better than both Nu-Ex games.
>>720624125And Illuminati are always incognito. They aren't so much constrained as they are back to old methods that they've used in all other times.
why are there so many threads about this? they seem to be daily now
>>720624691Eidos is focus testing whether a DX5 that's a sequel to IW is viable
>>720611543I like it. It was just comfy and compact, great graphics for the time. It had funny ragdolls, and the Omar were gigachad bros. That nightclub song is burned into my brain.
>>720611543It feels like a cheap clone of the original Deus Ex made by a small Russian or Slovakian studio i.e. it's not a good game, but has its charmBut then again, I haven't played this game in 15 years
>>720621520It's a shitty port of a shitty mobile game. It was around the time publishers tried to make "AAA" games on phones, but that never caught on because shit like candy crush made more money with less effort.
>>720620341in chicago, maybe
>>720624815>an actual sequel to IW>MD + graphics>art based model of fem Alex sibling>all Denton siblings in proper resolution>hq G E P G U N>tying all plot pointsf-fuckThe sheer potential is immense, but damn, that's a hard project to make.
>>720626640>>tying all plot pointsDidn't work the first time they tried, why would it work then?>bro you see Alex activates the Illuminati satellite but also gives JClios godhood and unites part of mankind, so they're duking it out for total control, but he also releases the nanite swarm which kills all augmented people so it's all happening under quarantine underground, but Omar can survive it and then nuclear armageddon happens regardless so none of it mattersGreat story
>>720624815Mathematically unlikely.In this industry you'd rather see a remake of the original before a sequel is even up for discussion.
>>720613537>but honestly it isn’t that noticeable.It's very noticeable. It becomes apparent as soon as the game begins in your shoebox-sized room amid the tiny compressed corridors of Tarsus Academy. The problem is on full display when you step out into the "city" and get a miniaturised shopping mall where the points of interest are no more than twenty paces apart from each other.>you can’t really go guns blazing if that’s your style.You can. For example, the sniper rifle completely trivialises combat against unarmoured enemies, because the AI is as weak if not weaker than in the original game, but here you no longer have to invest skill points to get a steady aim with your scope. You can aim for headshots with all the ease of the Master Chief against braindead enemies who have no tactical manoeuvres against it. If you're outside their response range, they'll form an orderly cue beside their fallen comrade and wait for you to pop them.
>>720626816Tying 2027 with the future, obviously.>whyActually it worked well in IW, a logical progression considering the location at which JC ended up. One can make at least a handful of solid guesses as to why the Aquinas router collapse has happened.Some things flew over heads of others.One can reconcile IW too, even all endings at once.>Great storyJC succeeds, male Alex sibling saves Billie. With ubiquitous biomod, populace affected learns about the Illuminati.Helios starts to spread its nanotech through the planet and beyond.The Illuminati is forced to submit and admit defeat. They admit it, all parties know they don't and continuously attack.Their non-aligned and critical personnel *dies* as Illuminati cleans up house before, during and after JC takes over.Deep Illuminati begins constructing its own AGIs and entire industries in Earth's upper mantle using nanotech, waging extremely sharp psy-ops and sabotaging info systems as they exfiltrate from Helios's domain, until they develop teleportation device and spread in Sol.Illuminati prepare for total war and reemergence as a public entity at a later time.Compromised agents are let go of completely.The Templars submit most bitterly, resistance is crushed.Remaining non-known Templars are reached to by the Illuminati, shaky but robust alliance starts.Second century of peace starts with a shake up, as Illuminati start to raise questions in post-human domain. They succeed, and moderate humans that weren't agreeing with Helios, democratic exiles, non-aligned deaugmented criminals, and cliques of scientists shake democracy.The Illuminati come back as a full polity. Democracy project fails and succeeds both.World War for Human Reemergence begins.MD Jensen, by now just a historical footnote, comes back out of nowhere with Eliza and his own robot & human civilization.3 way war between post-humans, "Enlightened Illuminati" and pro-human Jensen faction is on.MC is Illuminati infiltrator.
>>720628454Also Adam and Elize have Adam & Eve but victorious over sin imagery, JC is messiah at odds, and Illuminati are... honest. Dangerously so.Sarif and Darrow grandkid characters would be nice too.
>>720611543it's better than Nu-Deus Ex, but that's where all the praise for it should end.
>>720621520Just turn around, there's a Controller behind you.
>>720628454Omar are eradicated by Helios early on, or exist as a tolerated diaspora in post-humanity. Their inhumanity poses a threat to post-human self-imagery early on, so they are carefully watched.
Worst game in the series. The 7th gen game is not only better, it's also the best game from the Square takeover.
>>720613069Suck the shit out of my ass loser
>>720621914Snowblind is amazing, play that shit NOW. Trust me it's absolute mid 2000s kino.
the amount of loading kills it for me
>>720628789It's decent for a console FPS of that gen. Don'tknow if I'd call it "amazing".
>>720611543it's painfully mediocre but the game is so easy its just fun to just walk around the maps invisible to all enemies and ragdoll all your enemies.
It's a shit game but it's absolutely dripping with soul
>>720611543>Is it really that bad?As a sequel to deus ex, absolutely. Level design kills the original deus ex philosophy.As a standalone game, it is even worse. Guns feel pathetic minus the sniper and the stealth/rpg elements are terrible.
>invisible war comes out, it's pretty shit and gets treated as suck>human revolution comes out, it's so much worse, but somehow gets treated well
>>720612041>being this salty you didn't get the discount
>>720611543It's just disappointing and forgettable, not meme tier bad. If ever a game could benefit from a more ambitious remake this is it. I would say the story needs a bit of a rewrite too but frankly I don't trust anybody to do better in this day and age.
The heavy consolization was awful. It reduced gameplay systems to a very poor state.Otherwise it's a fine sci-fi story, and the ideological advancement is even pretty good. The illuminati are still just the illuminati being insane control freaks who rule via D&C/controlled opposition, you have to contrast between the Omar borg hivemind completely overwriting individuality in favor of the Collective compared to Denton's HELIOS hivemind which still allows the drones some degree of personal autonomy but are all strictly operating under HELIOS world order. And then you have the TemplarCHADS who realized that crashing Aquinas didn't go far enough--we must actively destroy technology.
They turned JC into a supervillain. This sucks.
Fine, I'll post it since we're still going
>>720631512"Supervillains" don't exist and what did you expect?You either co-lead a global conspiracy, cause many casualties or try to take over.
Despite I enjoyed the ps3 first one, JC Denton and OG DudeSex are undisputed, I'll rather play some mods for that than the nu gaymes
>>720612041>why yes, I think hyper-omni-techno-american democracy is what humanity should enslave itself toFaggot.
>>720624691I made a thread about both the first DX games several days ago. In my case, it was simply because I had suddenly got back into the franchise. I do wish I was getting paid to hype up DX5.
The high point of the game was definitely the twist that the two factions youve been choosing from are both just Illuminati lol, and foreshadowed by the café chain sidequest.Really goes downhill after that.
>>720623770It's literally what shotguns feel like IRL
>>720611543Yes. Even the story shits the bed bad enough that I can safely say that the Templars did literally nothing wrong, even though the game desperately wants you to side with Apostle.
>>720621520Kino
>>720621520I got all achievements on this game and that never happened to me.
