Even after 50 updates or whatever, it's still boring as shit and I'll have more fun watching the paint dry
works on my machine
>>720641107you are most likely too low IQ to discover that in an endless open world sandbox universe of a game there is a lot of things to do. u probably need constant waypoints and quests to keep yourself busy. the only things you've ever fully explored in life is your homosexual tendencies and the Taco Bell womens bathroom (bc ur a fucking tranny that wears diapers and plays Starfield)
because none of the updates ever improve the main dogshit gameplay of scanning rocks to upgrade scanner to scan more rocksyou can't even have fun with friends because the co-op isn't real co-op
>>720641107No Man's SkyAs vast as the galaxy, as deep as a puddle(I kinda enjoyed some parts of the game but overall it feels like it's made for a 9 year old)
>>720643161>To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand No Man's Sky.
>>720643653>the co-op isn't real co-opwhat does that even mean
>>720641107I am enjoying myself a lot. I got the portable refiner built in my exosuit. Got the trader rocket. Got some maps I am doing, gonna get money and get my first new ship. The story missions are a bit meh, 5 hours in and still trying to find Artemis but I've been sidetracked lol.
Live footage of anon discovering that sandbox games where all you do is gather resources and build structures are fun for about 3 hours and then it gets boring.
I bounce on it every once in a while, mess around with the new patch stuff and then shelf it for a few months. It's not a game you can realistically play every game without going insane from boredom.I recently finished my corvette, got it to S rank and now I'm done until they add more cool stuff.
>Sells itself as the ultimate sci-fi space game>No sexy alien bitches you can bang
>>720646226if you are not in galaxy 255 then you still have not even come close to "beating the biggest exploration game ever made by a dozen white british guys" >factsdont be cheesing it with portals either (like a tranny would)
checklist simulator, yawn
>>720641107Funny how the game delivered on every initial promise and 3X more and is still just Minecraft in space
Good morning saars
>>720641107>Roll new character>Bar constantly decreasing and have to scan and pick flowers one at a time to desprately keep recharging it>Can't find cave to duck into>Eventually a storm comes and kills me>Struggle like this for 20 minutes until I can get off world>Go to paradise world>Run into sentinels that interrupt my objectives every 5 feet>Game is forcing me to build a fucking base for no reason>Didn't have to do this in the past>Keep getting interrupted by sentinels>Rage bubbling over at this point>UninstallFucking piece of shit, most frustrating experiences I've had in a game for a long time.Killed my desire to play, all I was doing during that annoying shit was scanning and shooting a laser anyway.
>>720644901it means you exist next to each other and kind of do your own thing around each other but you never actually cooperate on anything the game is all self improvement and self upgrades and there's no much combat which is the only real point where you coop is killing shit together
>buy an exocraft>it's as fast as running>ride an animal >it's slower than walkingAt its best it's a pretty interactive wallpaper, like if someone made a map and forgot to finish the game
>>720647146none of this is true though unless you start on permadeathyou do not actually have to recharge anything unless you fuck around for 20 minutes before fixing your ship, that's on youalso paradise worlds don't contain aggressive sentinelsalso the game does not force you to do anything, it's just a quest you either follow or don't, you can freely do whatever you wantwhat do you even gain by lying like this?
>>720643161>there is a lot of things to do.There aren't. There's only a couple of things to do and you do them over and over again until you realize you're just doing the same shit repeatedly until you finally realize how boring and repetitive it is and then uninstall the game. If you want a game that does exploration right, play Underspace.
>>720647146The first couple hours of the game can be unmitigated misery if your spawning point was bad and you're playing on survival.One of the worst video game intros ever to be honest. It's unfun, it's unfair, it's slow and miserably boring. Everything it teaches you becomes worthless after this because you'll be rolling in money and just buying every item you need for basic recharging or crafting.They did at least add a skip option when you start though.
>>720647443this is a legit complaint. Game is amazing and half-assed at the same time.
>>720647443The only animal or vehicle worth capturing for riding are the flying giant beetles. They're very fast and hover straight over any terrain. They're great for scouting surrounding areas.But yes everything else sucks fucking ass, I'm made that I wasted time trying to craft them all on my previous save.
>>720648248not even remotely true. the wildlife combinations is endless. i have this giant dinosaur i made a pet that i spawn at the anomaly to trip ppl out. huge reason to collect cool pets.
>>720647860It's crazy that underspace is all just one guy on like a 10 thousand budget. Kind of wish he had a full studio
>>720648109I wouldn't say it's amazing. It's got potential to be amazing but the reality is the devs don't have any interest in making a good game and would rather just throw bullshit fluff content at the retarded fans' way to try to distract them from the fact that the game is at its core, a shit game. There's no real exploration to be had in the game. Once you've seen one planet in the game you've seen basically everything they've got to offer. Points of interests across planets are all the same and they all consist of 1-2 room buildings with negligible loot to find. The only exception to this are crashed freighters which, again, are all the same copied and pasted crash site. The game doesn't even have points of interests unique to specific biomes (I'm pretty sure even that piece of shit Starbound did this)Space is empty and bland. There's no incentive to cruise around solar systems because there's nothing interesting to find in space. Sometimes you'll get a signal that'll encourage you to drop out of warp speed when you're cruising between planets but it's almost never anything interesting and even when it's something that has potential to be interesting like the abyssal egg thing it just turns out to be nothing more than decoration that basically serves no purpose and just kind of exists.Furthermore, there's never any sense of danger and excitement. Everything in the game is just kind of babyproofed. Everything that's potentially dangerous is labeled as such. If you're planetside and not sure if something can hurt you, all you have to do is look at it through your scanner to see if there's a big red exclamation mark above it. Most dangerous things aren't actually all that dangerous and even if they are truly dangerous you have to really go out of your way for them to become an actual threat. It's even worse in space where the only threat you face are pirates. There's no unknown dangers and thus never any sense of danger or excitement.
>>720647641I duno how I'm being accused of lying when I simply recounted what happened to me, but whatever, maybe I was wrong about it being a paradise world but it fucking looked like onenothing else was off, stop coping retard>>720647952I'd hoped they would have fixed that by now, I did roll the difficulty above normal, maybe I'll try again and skip the intro in future
>>720641107OP is right but it's still fun to build permanentish structures. but yeah they need to add 50% more random content and better interactivity. it's alright otherwise.
>>720646720Is galaxy 255 where the proc gen suddenly becomes good, planets have large, bustling alien cities, and the space stations don't all look the same?
All I wanted was to play in VR and skim the surface of planets while zipping through the clouds. Too bad their engine is dog shit and even on a 9950x3D and RTX 5090, it still runs like dog shit on a Valve Index nevermind some modern headset with 4x the pixels to render.
>>720649470>nothing else was off, stop coping retardnigga you literally died during the tutorial lmao it's hard to believe anyone can be this bad
>>720649675I was running it fine on a 7800x3d and 3090. At least until this most recent update, which completely broke the game. Now it won't run longer than five minutes without crashing. I don't know if that's exclusive to VR or not.
>>720649726aww did I insult your game? <:( womp wompWas just talking about a frustrating experience I had with it, your the coping retard who accused me of lying, I don't give a shit if I died during a shit tutorial that's difficulty is defined by pure RNG
>>720641107Its literally Minecraft in space. Dunno why people don't like it.
>>720649906>RNGit's all scripted retard
>>720650138Yeah scripted to spawn you in an area with no caves to hide in and little plant life so that you can't even keep your radiation protection filled?Whoa truly the dark souls of space games...
>>720641107Oh finally, a NMS thread that isn't immediately dead. Anyone want a portal code to a random system near the center in Euclid? I was hoping to attract some anons there to see what happens.
>>720649397>t's got potential to be amazingThe core gameplay loop is so fucking boring it can't be.Then again I guess you could redo that so that progression isn't tied to rock shooting.
>>7206504641 1 1 1 1 1 1 11 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
>"Hey we know each other! Can we meet at X?"yes...>"Oops something happened can we meet at Y?"okay...>"Oops something happened can we meet at Z?"fine...>"Oops I'm actually dead lmao!"
I've always hated when people say "I wanted to like it" and similar phrases. I thought it was stupid. I get it now. I wanted to like No Man's Sky. I have like 80 hours in the game. Because every once in a while, I'll think to myself that I really want to play a space game where I explore planets in VR, then boot up the game, get bored like ten hours in because I fucking hate "survival craft" games, then uninstall. Then the process keeps repeating.
>>720650832>survival craftgood thing there's creative mode then
>>720647952Don't forget it takes several hours even if you rush through it because the tutorial doesn't end until you finish the artemis path, as the new planets, alien race and probably even more shit in the future is locked behind doing that
>>720650832I don't think I hate survival craft, I've played Abiotic Factor and liked it a lot. I just hate survival craft slop where they let a random number generator try and make the fun for them.
>>720651216Creative Mode doesn't fix the game's main problem that it's two primary systems are completely at odds with each other and are fundamentally incompatible. If the point is to reach the center of a functionally infinite galaxy, why the fuck would I want to build a house somewhere?
>>720651424to store your extra items and do researches and whatnot?
>>7206478601.0 release WHEN
>>720641107it's alright but the game basically relies entirely on your desire to build things, be it your frigate, planetary bases or now corvette. There's really no other purpose to the resources you'll be collecting loads of, and the mission stuff seems pretty transparently repetitive and boring. >>720646226I can't even imagine grinding all the nanites you'd need to do that, unless there's some super fast method I just don't know about.
>>720651424you can at any point return to your base via teleporters, which every space station has. from what I've seen it's hardly worth reaching the center more than once anyway, you only really need to finish the main plot once to unlock the ability to do the autophage shit so you can get access to purple star systems
>>720651641Are you going after the fungal balls?You can also kill sentinels for corrupt modules which sell for a couple hundred nanites each.>>720650549That's not it.But I'll post it anyway.
>>720652095Matter of fact, I'll make a /vm/ thread and see who wants to visit.
>>720651957well if you want to get to a special galaxy and not use a code provided by other players you could have to hit the center 4 times
>>720651424I'd hardly call base building a main system, when was the last time it received an update that wasn't just a reskin of the wall textures? Most of the stuff a base can do can be done on a freighter with exception of factories, which you visit once per day and isn't much different from freighter fleets and settlements as it's just passive income generator on a timer and not a house, and actual houses people build to save planets they like, but even if bases didn't exist you could still just find the portal and it's glyph coordinates to "save" a planet you like and return to it
I am liking the new corvette ships you can build, tho.
>>720648470I think if he added starship and station building it'd be even better.
>>720643161>too low IQ to discover that in an endless open world sandbox universe of a game there is a lot of things to do.I like NMS a lot but having lots of things to do isn't intrinsically fun for everyone. NMS is a good game for autists who have a vision of what they want to achieve in the game then set out on doing it. But that's not fun for everyone. Some people want narratives structures, interesting characters, engaging combat systems, etc.
There is a lot that i like here, but i will buy it if they ever do things that let you build a space empire, like colonization
>>720650323Nigga you died in the tutorial
No Man's Sky'ses number 1 fan here,here are some problems I have had for FAR TOO LONG that I want Sean to see:>Main quest is total dogshit and needs a second overhaul. It tricks new players into thinking this is the most boring game ever made where all you do is craft fuel and shoot rocks as you chase lame upgrades across the galaxy. It's the number one reason people insist this game hasn't changed after all this time and why player retention is routinely in the gutter. >First-person animations are placeholders where you don't even have hands. This is outrageously cheap and lazy to still have as a problem. It's another problem that affects refund percentages.>Unique Staff weapon with complex acquisition method similar to a lightsaber is just a high-stat rifle with janky default animations and no melee bonus. Ridiculously lazy implementation of what could have been an interesting sci-fi/fantasy hybrid weapon.>No on-foot pirates>No humanoid enemies whatsoever despite slaughtering pirates in orbit by the millions>Nearly all on-foot danger requires a player to actively seek it out. Dynamic on-foot content is severely out-of-focus in general>Can have multiple AI followers but no hand-picked personal away-team/alien-bro crew like the Squadron system. This is a big one that would put a band-aid on every other gripe for me.>Zero low-level dungeons of any kind.>Only 1 form of dungeon with 1 variant, Derelicts in space with genetic anomalies aboard Lastly,>WHEN IS THE GAME GOING TO BE FINISHED? >I AM TIRED OF MY SHIT BREAKING >IF YOU WON'T FIX BASIC SHIT THEN MOVE ON ALREADY SO I CAN FINALLY BUILD WHAT I WANT WITHOUT KNOWING YOU'LL FUCK IT UP
>>720649627you may have not picked up on a theme of the game because im getting illiterate nigr vibes from you but the concepts of "the first, and the last" is within the games primary quest storyline. this gets revisited as a theme with the creation of purple systems (things the atlas had previously deleted) but the first galaxy Euclid is both the beginning and ending loop of the whole game. getting to game accessible system 255 is the "end of the game in terms of travel distance possible" then getting to the center of that system warps you back to euclid, the first system. its fundamentally a game about exploration and finding new things which some ppl who dont have a true sense of adventure may not find compelling enough to actually reach galaxy 255, the end. but i digress, you most likely never even installed the hermetic seal and as a result never even left your starting planet. which was both your beginning, and end. embarrassing, and very sad.
>>720647443>Exocraft as fast as running That's complete bullshit. Did you just not install the boost or jumping on any of them?The hovercraft in particular goes insanely megafast if you jump and boost. Way faster than any jetpack lunge by several magnitudes.Exocrafts also let you echo-locate structures that cannot be pinpointed otherwise, making them one of the most useful things in the game.Lastly, you can stay inside them on hell planets to save a shitload of resources.Anyone saying exocrafts are useless are just fucking stupid.
>>720650819The main quest is easily the worst thing about the game at this point.
>>720641107This is the first game in a long time that just doesn't recognize my Xbone controller. What gives?
I'm having fun but only when the game works. Like there's no point in using any refiner besides the backpack one because portable ones eat your mats if you walk away, and Corvette refiner's eat your mats if you do any kind of space travel. That's really fucking frustrating. Any Corvette processor is useless because of this
>>720641107I'm enjoying it for now, I might get 100 hours out of it before shelving it forever. That said I got a lot more enjoyment out of Elite Dangerous, I put around 300 hours into it before I felt like I did everything worth doing.
>>720656784doesn't have native support afaik, it's steam doing the heavy workalso don't use controller, it's absolutely dogshit and you are better off with kbmt. tried both
>>720651641>I can't even imagine grinding all the nanites you'd need to do that, unless there's some super fast method I just don't know about.Go to pirate station, buy all the illegal arms and tech modules and resell them, repeat until you have enough. Took me a couple hours over the span 3 days.
>>720658901This. Buy all the black market goods too. I jump to three or four of them before selling that shit for nanites, then jump back to my base and sell the goods to double my money
I want a new shiiiippppp.... I am too poor
it just feels super lonely... they should have added human companions... I need hot space babes on my corvette/shipsI don't want alien freaks on my ship I'm a xenophobe... even if Starfield companions were all dogshit at least it made flying to new places with them seem fun
>>720659141corvettes are basically free, just go to a planet with salvage and run around breaking containers open
>>720659141Look into Sentinel ships and/or buy some distress signals from the planetary charts guy in any station.
>>720659141buy 2-3 s class scanner upgrades and scan a few shit on planetscongrats you are a millionaire
I have spent more than a week (real time) warping around searching for a paradise planet with green terrain and blue water in a 3 star economy and no conflict level owned by geksIs that really too much to ask?
>>720651629Presumably when he gets some more VAs. All the content is already finished and in the early access build. The only thing left is some polishing in terms of visuals, minor bug fixes, and voice acting for dialogue missing voice lines/TTS placeholders
Can I just buy fake passports at pirate stations? The quest that gave me one for free didn't recognize that I gave it to the big computer already so the quest broke
>waste hours looking for the perfect S class ship to buy>then they add starship construction from scratch>spend more hours looking for all the pieces I want>then they add corvettes>now I have to spend more hours looking for all the lego pieces I wantsean you evil evil man
>>720641107nice your taste is not universali have fun with it
>new game>find youtube videos on how to make money>dissonant system next door to starting system>neat>jump to it while doing main story still>scan planet>it's a dead planet so no camp
>>720660209any way other than smuggling black market goods or cranking up scanner bonuses is a scam
>he doesn't have an s-class pirate dreadnought
>>720660304do sentinel ships no longer sell for millions? did they nerf it? the video I watched was only like barely a year old or something
>>720651306This is also true. The storyline gets to a point where all you do is visit a new star a dozen times, enter the same copypasted location, walk over to a big orb and read really lame partially translated dialog.
>>720651629>that fucking cubeLiterally the first time I almost shit my pants>Went through a jumphole during a storm (didn't realize that was a bad idea)>end up in blackish red void >no clue where to go, confused as shit, ghost signals keep appearing and disappearing, everything is dark except occasional flashes of lightning>see a square silhouette lit up by a flash of lightning>fuck it, nowhere else to go>get close>it lights up>OH FUCK IT'S SO BIG IT TAKES UP MORE THAN MY ENTIRE SCREEN>I'M LIKE A FUCKING GNAT TO THIS MOTHER FUCKER>boss health bar appears, it's name is "unknown">shit pants>it starts firing giant fuck you laser beams>get hit by one>die instantlyShit made me paranoid about going through jump holes for a while
>>720660594it's good as a head start but getting those up takes way longer than just teleporting around reselling shit
>>720660664It's even worse if you turn on numbers and see the fucking thing has five million health. I don't even know if it drops anything
>>720659298>>720659348>>720659438i did treasure hunt and got a biological sample that's worth 500 000 units
>>720659762You forgot multiplayer
>>720661124if you are having fun then you do youupgrading your scanner will give you 500k per animal scans and almost as much for mineral/plant scans
>>720660209just use cheat engine to edit money nigga, who the fuck has time to grind money forever
>>720660664There's so.many brick shitting moments that make the jank worth it
>>720661431>cheat enginejust use the setting for free stuffwhy cheat engine?
>>720661293look i found a rainbow
I love this game.
>>720659676they have a rare probability of being in water systems and a paradise planet naturally doesnt have sentinels but if u find one close to paradise conditions with sentinels just find a sentinel boundary map then disable sentinels on the entire planet. its the yellow systems where paradise planets appear. ik the feel i look for them to just for bases and to make new screenshot wallpapers with. the fastest way to look is warping in your freighter then doing a full system scan then checking planets that way. good luck, see u at teh anomaly.
>>720660508my commercial freighter smokes your ass little buddy
Am I, like, obligated to let other people into anomaly missions? Is that the etiquette or something
i named my corvette the "Oxygen Denied" as a salute to George Floyd. the name is low key unbannable so even if i get reported its still related to NMS but its true meaning is racist :)
>>720661990>using up valuable supercharge adjacent slots on passive itemsfix it. now!
Are there other games like this with the caveat being that I really want ship interiors and walking outside the spaceship? Most games do everything better than nms but I can't find a game that does *all* the shit nms does
>>720663061starfield, sadly
>>720663185God damnit you're right
Why the FUCK won't it recognize my controller?
>>720641107Just tried replaying it for like the fifth time. I have over 120 hours in it over 5 years. My most recent experience went like this:>Go to Atlas station>Hold X on big blob>read gibberish>New quest objective>go to nearest Atlas Staion>Do this 10 times in a row over 2 hours>get some item that gives me one extra heart>fucking hell this sucked... maybe this is just what the early content was like? I'll try the other main objective>go to communication thingy>speak to ghost>go to random POI>read gibberish>go to communication thingy>speak to ghost>go to random poi>do this over and over and over againI've been trying to finish this quest line for over half a decade and every time I get a fucking migraine over how retardedly boring and repetitive it isI fucking hate this game and myself for giving it so many chances
>>720661503It's not really all that janky. It's just a complex game.
>>720661853I'm not talking about paradise-like planets, I'm talking about actual Paradise Planets, they don't have sentinelsI have found about 50 of those planets but none of them match my criteriaI have found really nice looking paradise-like planets, some had occasional storms, some had sentinels, but for some reason I can't settle for them
>>720643161This game is nothing but constant waypoints and quests. It's just that all you do when you reach the waypoint is hold down X to read a bunch of nonsense then fly to another waypoint to do this same thing. Repeat this an infinite amount of times.
how do you actually navigate in this game?like, you are flying around a solar system, how do you actually see what planets it has, which you've visited, features they have?I fell like I'm missing something
>>720663620it's very janky too, I've lost count of how many times I've fallen through space stations or an objective spawned below unbreakable terrain or sentinels refused to drop aggro no matter what
>>720663767Go to the discovery tab and you'll see every planet in the system. If you have a freighter with a scanner room, use that and you'll instantly discover every planet which lets you see what resources it has and what biome it is.
>>720641107>shitty FOV with weapon taking up half the screennoty
>>720663767you can scan them from space to see what kind of planet it is and what key resources it hasyou also have a log of all the systems and planets you've actually visited, the fauna, flora and rocks you've scanned on them etc
>>720663861Ah fuck, that was the name field not the title field.Oh well.
>>720663426Those are the 2 main missions, one is atlas path and the other is artemis (aka main story)Both of them are absolute trash and they include the worst parts of the game but you have to finish both to actually start playing the gameI don't blame you if you can't stomach those quests but it does get better afterwards
>>720663983>but it does get better afterwardsThanks, anon, it helps to hear that. I'm trying my best to get past them but I don't want to look things up online and so I didn't really have any way to know if I was wasting my time or not.
>>720663781Underspace, not No Mans Sky.
>>720663061you can make corvettes on nms nowand you can walk on them and your freiterother games would be any that can build ships, like empyrionor x4, but on foot stuff is quite lame, and you are looking at menus 90% of the gameplay
>>720663983they're good quests but require a lot of READING which is something you are probably skipping thru like a nigr. embarrassing.
I'm always baffled by retards who talk about the "engoodening" of this shit. It still sucks. Proc gen fucking sucks. No amount of gimmicky crap tacked on top will ever change the barebones structure underneath. Gamers are retarded. Space fans are retarded.
>>720664146atlas quest is kinda short especially if you have all the resources but you are done with it so whateverartemis' is a pain in the ass but I managed to speedrun it on a new save in 6 hours without looking up stuffgood luck bro
>>720664240stick with playing pokemon or palworld u massive faggot>comes into a thread he doest like just to cry like a stupid bitchi bet u thought starfield was a good game
>>720664240>Space fans are retarded.Worse, theyre hyper autistic.
>>720664240I enjoy it. Don't care if you don't.Try visiting threads you like.
>>720664240it has been how many years?let it go
>>720646674Yeah the aliens look kinda ass.
>>720664204no they are dogshit>go to location A>oh it's an approximate location>hehe you can't hover and look around, enjoy your night time, extreme storm, overgrown flora>time to land your ship and walk around like an animal>oh you want to scan some shit while walking? nono we reset your scanner each time because fuck you>chop chop and don't forget to resummon your ship>now let's do this again 5 more timesI love the game but come on man don't tell me anyone enjoys this
>>720664328the updated atlas path to get all the glyphs was a much needed upgrade as warping into a system 1 of 20 times to get lucky and meet a traveler to find a glyph was a very very annoying grind. >EXPEDITION 19 WAS KINO
If you don't understand NMS's appeal you are simply too brown.
>Find a crashed ship somewhere on a planet>Check the damage>Every single inventory slot and part needs repairs which would take hours to gather the resources for itGod i just want something new. I'm tired of my noob spaceship. Why do they have to fuck me over like this.
>>720664623Aproximate locations are easy. Just land at the nearest building. That's pretty much guaranteed to be the place.
>>720664669this is the real issue desuNMS is the best game ever made by white british guysits a white mans spacecowboy game that combines a myriad of scifi kino into an endless universe to explorelow IQ brownoids just cant appreciate this game and its kino art style. shrimple as that
>>720664738You just need to fix the launch thrusters, pulse engine, and shield. You could probably get away with the pulse engine and launch thrusters.
>>720646674Actually true.The only mistake of NMS is not having hot bitches.
>>720664240>internet dude said it was good>therefore it is bad
I gave it a chance, but yeah, when I travel a trillion light years I expect to find something more than exactly the same space base in slightly different color.
>>720664738pro tip. after u get flying and the warp drive, just look for a planet with salvagable scrap, farm up maybe just 5 of these drops and u have enough to either build a spaceship or buy really anything u see at a space station. fastest way to build credits now. land, use scanner mark salvage scrap location, fly to it, farm it, repeat. the parts sell for a lot or if u get lucky u can just use them to build a spaceship which is more ideal than using a trad ship (unless its a sentinel ship bc they are very very fast)
>>720664738Build a base computer and a teleporter. Claim the broken ship as yours. Teleport to space station. Your broken landing gear/engine are now repaired. You can either A) scrap it for a part module or sell it for sheckles (only do this if it's a shuttle type) or B) if it's a high-class ship just save it and trade down for a lower-class ship that isn't broken
>>720663369STEAM INPUT ON OR OFF DOES NOTHING
>>720665070To add, you can just do what >>720665064 says and just build a Corvette for free
do i have time to do the expedition or is it over
why is my equipment bugged? I validated my game files and nothing was wrong... you think it'll fix itself when i get a new backpack?
>>720665205I did mine in like a week. You can do it in a lot less if you nolife
>>720665112I have an xbone controller too and I don't have this issue, sorryHit up reddit or something, someone might have encountered your issue 7 years ago (hello games never fixes bugs)
>>720665205i finished Expedition 19 in i guess about 5 hours. it was really enjoyable. just really well thought out. not grindy, not overbearing, but comfy as could be. around the end of the year they will open up older expeditions in case u missed them. cheers.
>>720665260common bugit will return to normal on its ownthere are like hundreds of bugs like these but instead of fixing them they release new contentkinda bafflingyou can even see bugs from 9 years ago
Expedition 19 ends in the next 5 weeks. Probably one of the best expeditions they've ever made and why so many ppl have returned to play.
>>720665470>around the end of the year they will open up older expeditions in case u missed them. cheers.so I don't have to mod the game anymore to get the fomo rewards? neat
>>720641107I spent like 400 hours in Death Stranding, like at least a few hundred hours just building in games when it's allowed.This game really has nothing going for it. No real payoff, nothing special to really show off. Now they apparently have FOMO shit lmao.
a mod replacing all aliens with hot aliens when?
>>720662010I've never seen the people who are supposedly in my group when they joined my anomaly missions, now I just go to options and turn multiplayer off whenever I start them before turning it on again
every time i come back to play this game i completely forget the controls and what i was doing before. should i just make a new character
>>720666390happened to me like 3 timesthen i just treated the game like a roguelike and focus on different shit each run
>>720666390getting to the end game takes about 40 hours providing you are mostly playing the objectives and actually know how to play well. the games difficulty levels are highly customizable so feel free to explore that aspect to it if you dont have much time to play or want a more comfy less stress experience. if u dont do the main atlas quest line which isnt that long (but requries other game progression to unlock) you cant get the runes to unlock portals. pic rel is a system by system portal code that will place you within 3800 light years of the center of each galaxy you use it in. this is the fastest way to make it to the last galaxy, galaxy 255.
>>720641107Did they delivered on what they promised before release already?
>>72066693299% of it yeah, they've been going beyond that for a while now
>>720667086I've seen somewhere list of promised features and what was actually implemented. It was long ago, but maybe there is an updated comparison somewhere.
>>720664240They hated her because she told the truth
>>720647279>and there's no much combat which is the only real point where you coop is killing shit togetherThat's legitimately a (You) problem.Me and my buddy have been systematically going planet to planet eradicating sentinels for nanites on top of making the local wildlife extinct to create high flavor profile foods.
>>720665470how do you do the grow plants on your corvette quest? built the living wall thing but i cant interact with it to add plants. i dunno if its a bug or im just dumb.
>>720664669>>720664850Lol you're like that starfield shill who tried to defend that trash in a similar way. Both games are very alike in that they’re just loose collections of systems with no coherent design. Claiming that you need to be an explorer to enjoy these shitty games when it’s exactly the people who usually love exploring that get bored, is a bad joke. NMS is a completely brainless waste of time be it the first 2 hours or 20 hours later, with some of the ugliest aesthetics imaginable
>>720664240I fell for this shit too back in like 2022. Surely the game is good by now, is what I thought only to realize it was just a cope. Literally just needed one single hook to get me addicted to the game too.I think the theme is just cursed.
>>720646674>Gek gf who smells so good she actually looks hotter than she really does>Vy'keen gf who likes it rough>Korvax for clanker loversYou simply need to be a thinking man to see the beauty in real alien babes.
>>720641107Yeah, I don't get the "redemption arc". Even for an open world survival craft the game is grindy and has shitty progression. If you are supposed to just build a house it takes forever of digging up the stupid caches and going to the spaceball to unlock decorative blocks or anything interesting. No feeling of finding or crafting a new material you can use.Combat both space and ground sucks.I don't get it. I'd rather play minecraft or if you want space game, space engineers or something. Stationeers if you want autistic survival, Astroneers for a more casual exploration game.
>>720663620It's not complex, it's a freelancer clone lmaoShit is easy as fuck
>>720668315press "z" then go to the buildable plants section. providing you have done the expedition 19 quest and unlocked them. otherwise you'd have to unlock them alternatively
>do expedition>teleport to base>have to use shitty building gui to make ship>logout>delete record>reset the atlas>scream with Telomon
Is there a way to toggle the minotaur AI on/off besides riding it?
>>720641107>>720643161OP ABSOLUTELY DEVASTATED.
>criticize NMS for legitimate problems>game can't be defended without screaming how everyone is a starfield playing diaper troon indianAfter every NMS thread ending up like that I realized you have to be some kind of demented tard to enjoy it for any extended amount of time. Normal people just pop in to check on the new stuff, craft the new shit or do an expedition and then leave. Even that is just a mediocre experience, like checking out an art gallery you're never going to remember.
Have you ever encountered another player while out in space?
>>720669217yeah its in the same place you change from 1st to 3rd person I think
It bothers me how close the planets are to eachother in this game.
>>720669513Not directly, but I did watch a town get claimed as I was heading towards it. Could not find any PCs in the town
>>720668812The redemption arc myth has two sources.>fags who defended the release and played it for 3000 hours>normies who see the trailers and assume the game must be good because [content] but don't actually play the game
>>720661536That's so intense.
>>720669580What the fuck is a u
>>720669483No, NMS is genuinely great when you're into space and there really is nothing quite like it. Landing on a planet never gets old.
>>720646674This, what's even the point of a space game if there's no xenophilia
>>720669680Wat
>>720669513I crashed into some guy's ship that was hovering outside the entrance of a space anomaly once. But that was the only time i encountered another player besides inside of the space anomaly.
>>720669897Going by the reply chain, he's asking that anon to identify the unit of distance that the game uses, nothing is in feet or meters or anything like that. Shit is either some number of Us or Ks away from you.
>>720669725I'm into space. NMS is just cartoonish to me. Most galaxies look like you're inside a skittle, the planets don't really feel like they matter nor do the aliens or plants. Just feels like I'm constantly popping minimal rewards while looking at mediocre procgen. The scale of planets, combat and flying feels better in Elite Dangerous, the aliens feel better in Mass Effect and even Starfield, the procgen and items feel better in Minecraft. Sometimes I just play a space modpack for Minecraft have a lot more fun there.
>>720641107Im having fun, the expedition is great
>>720669990Afaik you only encounter other players in wild space on community expedition saves, otherwise it's all in the anomaly.
>>720643653So Valheim isn't coop. Or grounded. Or any survival crafter ever.
>>720669513In the Expedition you cant escape them, there's people everywhere.
>>720643161>go to planet>scan things>get bored>fly to new planet>scan things>get boredThe combat is barely even combat. Dog fighting feels like shit. Base building is fine, but there's no real point to it besides creativity.Every update adds a new mechanic that's absolutely fucking barebones and really adds nothing to the gameplay. "We added settlements" okay, they don't really do anything besides gives you money(that's useless) and a couple resources.Big space game with NO ECONOMY because there are options to turn on infinite money and resources.
>>720670167>Grounded isn't co-opAre you a retard?
>>720668315There's a milestone right before that one that gives you mats for plants. Then you "build" them onto the planter and wait. It's timer based and keeps counting when you aren't playing
>>720643161NMS is truly the kind of game that's reflective of your inner selfIf you don't have any imagination, you'll get bored. If you remained in touch with your inner child and are still able to picture an apple in your head and make up entire stories and adventure then you'll love NMS
>>720670252I was being offered a freighter, killing dozens of pirates and even took down a sentinel big ship with zero upgrades to my ship. Combat is not only retarded its easy as fuck.
>>720670452bro i have the tism and even i understood that anon was talking with a second meaning, it wasnt literal
>>720641107Hate that out of all the damn games that should have died off it's this piece of shit that didn't. Waaaaaaaay better games have come and gone without a second chance. Upon launch failure. Then all these fucking autists fucking aping around like it's the best thing ever and never shut the fuck up about it despite me telling them I'm not interested in hearing about it irl. It's like watching a bunch of rappers you hate die and then their family or studio decides to slowly modify and release new unreleased content for the next decade anyway.
>>720664345Why do these NMS fanboys always insist on comparing NMS to Starfield? You never see them try to say it's better than X4, Underspace, Freelancer, etc. Is it because deep down they know that NMS is a total pile of dogshit so the only positive thing they can say about it is that it's at least better than some other pile of dog shit?
>>720670498This but for Starfield.
>>720670498>just make up shit the dev couldn't to make it fun>while being given the most uninteresting setting and tools you could possibly haveI rather RP in some 90s JRPG than do that with NMS. At that point any game is fantastic if you make up shit to compensate for it.
I wish the corvettes had bigger boarding ramps so I can just drive up an exocraft into the ship instead of getting off to walk up the ramp.
What would be the ideal space game?
>>720670498I think you just have to be borderline retarded or high as shit. I've seen the Steam library of the people who defend this shit and claim it's an amazing game, and their library is a treasure trove of just terrible or boring taste in general.There's just no enlightenment to have from this kusoge, sorry bro.
>>720670898true, also some landing capsule like helldivers or a jump pad to use the robot
>>720670857The tools are more than enough, RPing in NMS is no different than RPing in Daggerfall, Warcraft 3's sotdrp maps or mount & blade
>>720670667Starfield is the only direct comparison, aside from maybe elite dangerous. X4 and freelancer do their shit better but nms has "more" gameplay systems to keep track of even though it isn't amazing at those extra systems
>>720670975Doesn't mean anything, tons of great games have absolutely retarded fanboys with shit taste. It has been getting a lot worse those past ten years when even this website stopped gatekeeping anything
>be a Star Citizen backing retard>keep seeing NMS fanboys mocking SC because of corvette ships being introduced>"we're catching up!">jump into NMS with SC friends to check it out>ship building is somehow even weaker than Starfield's>Interiors are fucking atrocious>there's really nothing to do as a team. The mission board is the same generic missions from anomoly>They somehow made NMS buggier than SC>people are falling out of the ship while it's moving>the hangar door gets stuck constantly>the teleporter to get back into our ship was broken and we ended up stuck inside a monolith building, causing us to stop playingIt's shit
>>720670992>comparing NMS to DaggerfallThat's where you fucked up. Not only is the setting, sound, and style of Daggerfall top notch the progression systems and factions are way better with more meaningful effects on the player.
>>720670898>>720670978Or just have some kind of tractor clamp so you can bring the exosuit along with you to wherever, like dropping onto a planet in your not-mako from orbit.
>>720670252>NO ECONOMY because there are options to turn on infinite money and resources.Yeah that's the point where I gave up. It completely betrays the main motivation of this stupid game, which is collecting shit. If it was merely single-player, you could say "just don't use cheats", except there's a multiplayer aspect to it, and you're forced to share gamespace with filthy cheaters.
>>720670498This but sniffing own farts.
>>720670906A space horror game. Space should be eerie if not outright terrifying.
>>720671091Starfield is a bethesda game set in space. I.e. it's quest and story centric with the space and base building as afterthoughts. It's probably the furthest from NMS as far as those comparisons are concerned.
>>720671204Still a lot better than SC
Now you understand "fun" and "engaging" because people's ideas of fun is so diverse. Some people like shadow empire or star citizen but it's just masochism.
>>720671372I wish. Would love a reason to finally let go.
>>720670906Starfield but space is actually open world and bases actually do something
>>720671256There is no "options to turn on infinite money and resources" once you start your game. To have said infinite shit you need to start the game in creative mode.I just checked the options 2 minutes ago to see you weren't full of shit.
>>720671130Yea but this is just a mediocre game at best with retarded fanboys with absolutely shit taste. Nothing about this game is remotely great, and the same people that were claiming this is a great game has been saying it since the 2016 launch.Also the same retards were saying this game was great while they were high as fuck so lmao. I think you just have shit taste in general man.>>720671462I can understand people being into Elden Ring or Nightreign but this?
>>720670906Pretty much the best parts of many space games combined together and then a good system to procgen abilities and items. Space is inherently too big to properly do a single game for. You need it to feel super big and to feel there's a huge variety of things to do and find which is impossible. So all games just focus down on a few aspects to spice up the general premise no one can currently fulfill.
>>720671353From a game design philosophy you're right but from an on-paper list of gameplay mechanics I think they're pretty comparable. X4 and freelancer have a similar sandbox-style philosophy but base building, ship interiors, and on-foot gameplay aren't in freelancer or x4 to that extent. Even elite dangerous sucks on-foot
>>720671589I actually have great taste, my favorite games are made up of objectively awesome titles like Jagged Alliance 2, Stalker SOC, Supreme Commander, Metroid Prime, Kenshi and many others. NMS is good
i dont know why they made crafting such a big part of this game. theres hardly any actual reason to build shit.
>>720670252>doesnt realize the games default settings are made for a comfy enjoyable experience and that the higher difficulty settings in the game require u to fully upgrade like a pro and actually be good at combat because u will literally fucking die and never make it to the center without using portal cheesengmi nigga u played the game for like 2hrs and thought "i guess thats it"my cat is smarter than u will ever be little buddy
>>720671818Trying way too hard. Sometimes you just have to admit that you're not perfect, especially when you think NMS is a good game.
>>720671834There doesn't need to be a reason to build shit. Building a base is an expression of creativity. Some people just enjoy doing that.
>>720671991nta but I love building bases and somehow this game was so fucking boring I couldn't even get to that point.>but creativethe planets look like dogshit
>>720670452Retard
>>720672051there's nothing to build, you stack prefab modules, it's not like space engineers or minecraft, it's like fallout 4.
>>720671976I listed some great games I happened to love, if someone of my taste like NMS, it must be good
>>720671204>there's really nothing to do as a team. The mission board is the same generic missions from anomolyThat's one of the funniest things I found about the corvette update. Yes, your buddies can ride around in your corvette if they want to (theoretically anyway, because like you mentioned they're broken as shit in multiplayer) but why would they want to? All they can do is sit there doing fuck all while you do the flying. Why sit around in some other dude's ship just jacking off while he does everything when it's more fun to just fly your own ship?
>>720672291It just makes those games look worse by association when you pair it with NMS. It's getting embarrassing, just stop man.
>>720672495I'm sorry for your taste.
>>720672257Fallout 4 doesn't have prefabs
It's honestly nothing against NMS, it's just boring while other sandboxes can keep me interested. I don't even have anything against the autists who play it or the normies popping in just to check out the updates and then leave. But the retards who just can't understand someone not liking this game? Those people are mentally unwell creatures. This game is apparently the spongebob box of imagination but they can't imagine why someone wouldn't like a game? Sounds like imagination has nothing to do with and its just them happy with quantity over quality.
>What is the point?This is a just a case of people not enjoying exploration and confusing not enjoying exploration with there being no content. You just dont like the content.In a similar game like Terraria its a linear experience with no exploration. You know exact what each biomes has and gives, and which boss to kill to progress. You "explore" in the sense you have to find a zone but once you see it thats it, its explored. There isnt a point here either, you kill X which gives you Y which lets you kill Z and then you're done. NMS exploration is baked into everything. You know that there are S tier multitools, S tier ships, S tier corvette crafting, and mechs/ground vehicles and bases to build, but how to do it isnt explained. You also know that vaguely better planets are closer to the center of the galaxy, and that you can interact with them but you have to find them. The exploration is figuring all the parts of above out which is the fun of it, unlike Terraria where everyone uses a wiki and everyone knows the whole game.There is also a linear story if you really want that generic survivial crafter go to zone craft X do quest/boss fight go to zone repeat experience as well.
>>720672608this guy is NOT white
>>720670667Because the ones you listed suck? Its Elite for flying, SC for space PvP and NMS for exploration. X4 is excel, freelancer is old as fuck, underspace lmao.
>>720672539yes it does they are just shit and rarely used
>>720670906Hyper focused. Space combatSpace exploration Space tradingSpace harvestingSpace empiresThe moment you combine elements, you ruin it. See Elite, SC, NMS, ect.
>>720672726Elite dangerous has the worst possible lack of a tutorial in any game ive ever seen. literally no tutorial and it expects u to know the millions of things to do in the game from first playi refunded after 90mins
>>720670906Star Sector was unironically fun.
At what point does a settlement start making money? I just got all the buildings in one at rank B and the debt counter still says infinite days until they pay it off.
>>720647443>interactive wallpaperlmao so trueit's a very good interactive wallpaper and walking around on a new player is interesting for a little whileI've found some really fucking aesthetic planets and visited some nice player bases, but unless you have build autism I just don't see the point
>>720672667Terraria exploration is fun, has fun hazards to deal with, combat is good, items are fun and diverse. NMS shoots itself in the foot the moment you start seeing the same types of planets with the same items, same set up and at best just minor changes. NMS is unfocused and bakes in that sameness into everything.
>>720672539uhhh ok nerdyou select an entire fucking building from a list and plop it on another building you already placed or the ground. there is literally no way to make a building in nms that is just an arbitrary size and shape unless you want to stack platform tiles one by one with the worst self aligning system ever made. like imagine it is space engineers right and your build options are "the entire fucking thing", internal modules, and the 1x1 flat panels. that's it. that's what you got. every base looks the fucking same. nms is a joke because like 12 other games do exactly what it does but better. nms just does everything halfassed.
>>720672896Yes. But also, the best flying and immersion of all the Space games. They're all shit games one way or another which is why I stick with starsector the pinnacle of space games.
>>720672960What part of the game do you get a tom nook debt?
>>720673000Terraria you kill X to kill Y. Its fun for a while but it has the exact same issue that NMS has. If you dont enjoy a linear experience you wont enjoy terraria. If you dont enjoy exploration you wont enjoy NMS.
all of the "muh space realism" games fucking suckmuh "it could be a scifi reality game" bc its a "space sim" is just fucking annoyingthats all star citizen even is, same thing for elite dangerous and many other space games out therei dont want a fucking simulationi want a game thats fun to play, and i just want to cruise around a universe and explore stuff, shoot pirates, and now build my own space ships. muh space sims are too try hard for muh realism fags. even star citizen who tries the hardest is still just a repulsive scam of a game. scam citizen.
>>720671353This is 100% true, but that means we have to acknowledge that they are different types of games despite both being "space games". That's too hard for /v/ to understand.
>>720672667>NMS exploration is baked into everythingAnd I think my issue is that there isn't enough reason TO explore though, and they've spent time on a lot of gay half-assed content in the meantime. Like settlements, this lame multiplayer mission shit that nobody wants to do, vehicles that are incredibly worthless for travel or exploring a planet because they're slow as god damn fuck. All this time that could have been spent fleshing out what the game was originally conceptualized to be about.They finally added some new planets and then locked it behind a plot that discourages actual exploration in favor of doing the most monotonous questline they could think up, one that just makes you skip exploring so you can blast through it. And all it does in the meantime is show how repetitive the game is, both mechanically and visually when you have to land on yet another planet with the same flora.
>>720673123>If you dont enjoy exploration you wont enjoy NMS.>Terraria you kill X to kill Y.This is just reductive and ignores Terraria's other features while only focusing on one feature of NMS.
>>720672770There aren't any prefabs unless you stall them with mods. You build primarily with foundation ma and panels
>>720673123damn I enjoyed Terraria enough to put in a few hundred hours, while NMS only last like 20-30 hours lmao. Guess you're wrong again.
>>7206729602 farms to S tier and one warehouse to A tier does it
>>720672667There's no "exploration". Evenly spaced PoIs of like 5 types are not exploration. There's nothing to find. You click on word stones, you get equipment upgrades. Getting ships is a question of talking to every alien and finding one that would sell you one or finding distress beacon coordinates. Tools are same shit, you get one randomly because you picked a right dialogue option in response to alien gibberish.To be exploration you have to explore something, there has to be mystery and hints. Going from point to point doing the same 2 minigames until you roll an S-tier that is functionally identical except it has higher numbers and more slots is not exploration. It's busywork grind.
>>720673235There isnt any reason to kill anything in terraria either. Other than to follow the set linear pathway that is put in front of you.>>720673241Its not reductive any more than people saying there is nothing to do in NMS. The dopamine you get from terraria is by the developer holding you hand and giving you Y after you kill X. The dopamine you get from NMS is figuring out how to do Y then you get X.Both are the same in the end. Its dopamine for either being told to do X or being told to figure X out. But to say NMS has no content is to say games like Terraria have no content.
>>720670906underspace gets a lot right for me. never got the ship interior bit but i'm not that autistic. Fuck tierra though all my homies hate tierra
>>720673287Main character syndrome >>720673464>there is no exploration >lists exploration
>can only play NMS if you have imagination and love to explore>game has no imagination and has bad explorationSounds like baby's first sandbox or something, like content has finally been dumbed down enough for them.
>>720673464Exploration only really exists if it's hand made. It's like reading a book made by an algorithm versus one actually written by a person
Retards trying to argue about how NMS has exploration reminded me of Outer Wilds, a game that actually does exploration right. NMS is just an openworld collectable with extra steps. Even worse actually because none of the collectables have any rhyme or reason due to it being procedurally generated.
>>720673763What you want is your hand held by a developer and told you get dopamine at set points. Its ok to like that, but its linear not exploration.
>>720673545>no contentI never said that. It's boring content, samey content. Terraria has events, way more interesting items, different builds, biomes that corrupt or can be changed and spread, fun npcs to interact with, and even the exploration as you fly/dig/swim is way better and much different than NMS. It's not the boss rush game you are making it out to be, though it could be if you wanted it to be. This is full strawmanning.
>>720662252anon im back late to this thread but if you are still here can you post your parts for this amazing ship?
>>720673550Is that the system with the black holes that chase you?
>>720673620>explains why it's not exploration>it's exploration thoNo it's not. Exploration requires a place to explore and something to find, NMS has neither.
>>720673817NMS exploration is like trying to find out where you shit in the toilet ends up. Keep on following the shit trail, shit explorer.
>>720673859Also while each biome is randomly generated it still has a purpose within the actual overall game. They'll have unique resources, bosses, enemies, and items.
>>720673859Exploration just isnt for you.
>>720673945It has both.>>720673946And linear games are like someone leading you to a toilet and telling you to shit. Good boy, you do your little poops, here is your dopamine.
>>720673886I think they just move but yeah It really sucks
>>720674067>put like 2 random shit in the entire planet>retards like (You) call it explorationabsolutely diabolical lmao. almost as bad as nintendo fanboys.
>>720673859Na terraria is a boss rush. Even the """events""" are just combat.
>>720674143Wrong.
>>720674143Yeah but sometimes you'll get a rock that's a different color or an animal shaped like a testicle.
>>720674282>no real argumentI accept your shit concession for this shit game made for jeets.
Can I put an entire base on a corvette? I was interested in the large outpost kinda deal but I'd like to have it in a giant ship if possible.
>>720674330>anon with a scat fetish thinks he made a valid point or had an argument Good boy, you post again and ill reply so you can get your linear dopamine.
>>720674504You can put a mission terminal, refinery and planting boxes. Not a whole base and all the base components, but you can now use the corvette to build sky bases and land there.
>>720674327I'm going to call games like Peak and exploration game from now on.
>>720673242well errrmm actually vanilla fallout 4 has like 2 or 3 house prefabs that no one ever uses
>>720673235>hasnt upgraded his vehicles and genuinely believes they are "slow as fuck">hasnt upgraded his exosuit to be able to warp his freighter in and call up vehicles on any planet hes on (very nice qol feature btw thats end game tier in unlocking)>literally hasnt even fully figured out the game and still crying about it like a fagthe Roamer exocraft btw has a nice feature that allows u to scan for monoliths in case u need to find a portal anywhere. not entirely useless now is it? stick with minecraft, its a simpler game than NMS that u may be able to enjoy more.
>>720674504You also get your linked storage. The refiner/food processor sucks because if you warp or walk too far away from your ship it'll eat the mats. Exactly like base refiners, now that I think about it.
>>720673550But how's the exploration?
>>720673545Killing in terraria can get you a lot though, from new furniture and access to content to gain new furniture styles, to new NPCs, both from regular enemy encounters or bosses.The equivalent of this in NMS is taping a scanner to your face and searching for the same thing over and over and over and then buying the blueprints from the anomaly or following the boring series of questlines from your recruits.I'm actually not a huge fan of bosses in Terraria and I think building arenas is the Big Gay, but as a builderfag its nice seeing my bases progress with new NPCs and adding a base+teleporter to every biome and enjoying the happiness bonuses that come with that, unlocking new objects, items and furnishings. From that standpoint, NMS lacks, because most planets are lackluster as hell and building a base feels redundant besides doing it for the sake of doing it. They could have integrated the settlement shit into base building and it might have solved half my complaints with that aspect.You CAN have exploration and purpose.
>>720674668Anon you cant convince linear dopamine addicts that figuring out stuff on your own is interesting. They can only play games with waypoints like Ubisoft or Bethesda games.
>>720673730I think some amount of procgen it's still possible to be exploration. Like arranging a dungeon from different tiles or something or if it's complex enough for navigating the environment itself to be interesting.It's really the PoI that are bad. You don't find something fun or useful organically, you run to the next point on the map with nothing in between.
>>720674838Like a best of remix from Freelancer with weird outer wilds tier stuff. i keep getting shit on for saying it needs voice acting but there's uniquestuff in the game that talks and i want to see what it sounds like like the giant robot you can get sculptures from.
>>720674871Base building is pointless in Terraria to the point where commie blocks is the most common description of building in the game. Just like NMS you also dont "need" to do it ever.So no. You are simply reductionist on games you dont understand and misrepresenting games you enjoy. You lack objective analysis skills.
>>720674876You mean like the waypoints in NMS that point you to the only interactable objects and there's nothing to see in between them?
>>720674975>You don't find something fun or useful organically, you run to the next point on the map with nothing in between.Yeah this was one of the biggest issues with Starfield is that the in-between areas weren't really populated with interesting stuff. Which is odd because I'm pretty sure the game supports a system for that (since it can put down craters and canyons and caves)
You lack objective analysis skills, he says, while calling Terraria a "boss rush" game when it has more to do than NMS. Actual jej.
>>720675148NMS can fix itself. It just needs to have ten times minimum the points of interest that can generate, let progression happen without needing to constantly shoot rocks, and make space not just a glorified loading screen.
>>720675094You have to explore to find those
>>720675056Since the addition of portals, commie blocks actually have fallen out of favor since clustering all of your NPCs together in one base results in lowered happiness, meaning access to less of their inventory or interactions. It's very nice having quick access to biomes or deep underground without relying on just the teleportation mirror and a big hole.
>>720641107>Build wall: Wood>>720643161>trannymind broken. The game sucks, just deal with the fact that you wasted your time
my older brother saw me playing subnautica many years ago and was like "what's the point? what's the objective?" and I was like... to build shit and explore... he didn't get itironically nowadays his favorite game is elden ring
>>720675367No it hasn't, no one cares about happiness because it has a minimal impact on prices in a game where currency is infinite.
>>720675462>>720671141u never even made it off the first planet little buddy. ngmi>best space kino ever made by a handful of white british guyspossibly the only meaningful thing british men have ever accomplished.
>>720675148Meant for >>720675056Sorry I didnt reply at first because hes right and I got mad at that fact so tried ro save face by replying to no one. But hes right and I conceed.
>>720675508Subnautica is a good game, I had fun with it. NMS is not.
>>720675639Its the exact same game with a different coat of paint. Clearly you never played either.
i added a window to my ship and my mission terminal is gone. how do i get my mission terminal back?
>>720675714I also played Below Zero and it was still a better game than NMS.
>>720675580>sentinel be like: you can't park there, sir!
>>720675510It's not just prices. You can't buy pylons from them if at least one of them isn't happy.
>>720675605awww wittle baby madge because he didn't get a (You) awww
>>720675106If it was much denser starfiled might have been tolerable. Like, either make it closer to not have boring runs or generate more interesting terrain. Starfield has incredibly boring features. It's mostly just flat.I dunno, at least in minecraft you can fall into a funnily shaped ravine sometimes.
>>720675714>Its the exact same game with a different coat of paintHow many times has some NMSfag said this? If that's the case then NMS is nothing special.
>>720675908There's a few planets that have a lot more variation and verticality but by and large it's the same problem with almost all these very large planet scale proc gen games: it's just boring going between points of interest.
>>720676006the landscape isnt empty idiot. build a rover, then use the fucking scanner instead of just flying to waypoints. u will find a ton of stuff inbetween. alternatively u can set your corvette into autopilot mode and scan for buildings,etc while you are moving toward your destination
>>720675714Subnautica is a handcrafted map there's a reason to explore to unlock new blueprints and new resources that allow you to go further and deeper.
>>720676164>that allow you to go further and deeperliterally the same progression pattern with unlocking new tech in NMS
I'm starting to think there's some disingenuous shitposting in this discussion.
the shill is doing such a shit job it unironically sounds like he's falseflagging
>playing new update in VR>gathering corvette parts>stop in to spend tech points at the anomaly>see my first corvettes in the wild>wander up a ramp into one, looks neat>owner of the ship walks in>i wave sheepishly in VR>he does a wave emote>he does some power ranger pose emote and i try to mimic the pose in VR>he closes his ship's hatch and flies off with me inside>takes me to his home system and fights some pirates while i watch out the windows and out the back hatch>shows me to his base and then when he flies off again i dive out the hatch of his ship, skydive to the surface, summon my ship and leavecrazy how seamless it all feels even with a couple obvious loading screens
>>720676241In NMS to unlock stuff not by finding and building it but by repeatedly digging up buried cashes and flying to spaceball (or your base) to spend them. There's barely any unlocks that change what you can do (and different coloured stars are functionally identical) and game has very few resources most of which you can get right from the start or buy at worst.
>>720676809>doesn't clean his ass>calls other people brownstop posting jeet, the game is still bad
>>720676669>game has very few resources most of which you can get right from the start or buy at worst.u have clearly not actually played the gamemy recommendation is to keep wearing your favorite diaper and spend some more money on Scam Citizen little buddy.NMS is too deep and richly immersed in a vast array of scifi kinos for a simple minded ADHD highschool dropout like yourself to be able to 1) appreciate 2) enjoy and 3) understand its the best space game ever made by a dozen white guys. inb4 u seethe and post more misleading shit about NMS (a game u have little to no experience with actualyl playing)
How do I get a good multi tool? I have an S rank staff but I want a good pistol for scanning too.
>>720676669Game would improve ten fold if it copied the method of unlocking new furnishings the way Subnautica did it (by exploring places and scanning the furniture or objects to unlock recipes). That'd be a pretty nice incentive to explore abandoned locations or the different designs of planet bases.Unfortunately most of the variety of things in the game is just the shells of buildings or space stations.
>>720651629>THUMP THUMP>THUMP THUMP
>>720675897Good boy! Here is your dopamine
>>720675975>>720676164As I said; you haven't played both and it shows
>>720675827Anon, that's the sentinel drone that you rebuild though. There's no reason it'd tell you where you can't park because it doesn't have a stick up its ass like the other sentinels.
>>720676985Explore anon, explore
>>720673550Big thing Underspace does right that NMS needs to take a page from is the hidden presence of danger. Very rarely do you know what you're getting into when you're approaching something mysterious and unknown. It could be harmless, it could be dangerous but yield a massive reward, or it could just outright spell your doom like the fucking unknown. Even when you DO know you're getting yourself into a dangerous situation, you usually don't know what you're going to be facing. Case in point, the storms. You can usually be sure that there's something in them that'll potentially fuck you up once you enter a system's nebula and see those writhing tentacles that indicate you're in the storm but until you get within a few KMs of the rift, you don't know what you'll be facing. It could be a squad of self replicating fighters, it could be a giant space snake, it could be a storm of exploding meteors than home in on your ship (fuck that one by the way), it could even be some fucking cosmic horror that's infested an entire space station and is wearing it as a shell like some kind of space hermit crab. That sense of danger is what makes exploration thrilling. In NMS all the dangers are primarily confined to planets. The closest thing to danger you'll ever encounter in space are pirates. Everything dangerous planetside is neatly labeled with a big red exclamation mark over your scanner. Most of them are generally negligible threats as well and the few dangerous things that actually DO pose a serious threat require you to go out of your way for them to engage you, like how biological horrors only appear if you try to snatch a whispering egg from an abandoned building (and again, big red exclamation marks are displayed over the eggs in your scanner warning you not to pick them up). To put it simply, the game feels like it's baby proofed to make sure everything genuinely dangerous is placed behind safety measures which makes it boring.
>troon troon troon!>diaper baby who can't see apples!>can't visualize apples and you're an indian>smells like starfield to me!>all games are No Man's Sky and all No Man's Skys are all games! Zero difference!>I like good games only so NMS must be good!Can you imagine how good a game must be for people to act like this about it? A sign of a quality piece of media.
>>720677339>Case in point, the storms. I was panicking when I was approaching a storm and getting closer and closer and no hazard appeared, because there's only one fucking thing that could meanFuck the sun hazard and fuck not being able to abyssdrive faster, my god
>>720647146spoken like someone who did not play the game, go die faggot
>>720677828worse, is someone that loses on the tutorial and goes to the net to blame the gameis as bad a modern game journos
>>720677238sorry I didn't know I only have like 20 hours in the game
>>720677468Its the launch, it attracted tortanic posters and they never learned it got fixed
>>720678919It got stuff added to it but the fundamental rock shooting part is still an intrinsic part of the game and still bad.
>>720641107but enough about cyberpunk.
>>720678919ever heard of the term "icing on the shit cake"?
>game about exploring planets>there's only 10 types of planets>half of them have no variation, frozen planets all look the same>the terrain gen is just perlin noisei love procgen exploration but nms's variety is genuinely dogshit, every update comes with new unique models for twitch drop/expedition rewards but they can't be bothered to add a couple new trees or rocks or buildings or ANYTHING to actually find while exploring. 16 quintillion planets and this fucking thing is on every single one of themare the new worlds part ii planets any better? i briefly gave the game another shot when that update came out but i closed it when i saw i had to do a long boring fetch quest to unlock purple stars
>a few hours running tutorial and farming nav data>a few hours increasing inventory slots through bought maps>a few hours picking up gravitino ball clusters on an aggressive sentinel planet and selling full inventories to accummulate 60mil credits.>12 hours resetting space station loads in an ideal vykeen system to get a 90th percentile S-class fighter.>another 12 hours or so to max out infra-knife modules. Finally, im ready to explore.
>>720680565>a few hours picking up gravitino ball clusters on an aggressive sentinel planet and selling full inventories to accummulate 60mil credits.this is inefficient as fuck anonjust get the analysis visor upgrades that increase payouts, you can get millions from scanning a single treeplus you get a nanite bonus if you find all the animals
Guys, I think I'm at the objective!
>>720678919>they never learned it got fixedIt didn't get fixed though, you're just so fucking dense that no matter how much people spell it out why the game is still shit, it just can't get through that thick skull of yours. All the issues with the core gameplay are still present. Exploring planets still sucks because there's nothing interesting or unique to find. Exploring space still sucks because there's nothing interesting to find in space and every space station is the exact god damn same. The only thing they've done is add half baked content after half baked content to trick retards like you into thinking they're improving the game. Exocraft? Completely fucking useless land based craft that are slow as shit and are only good for digging rocks faster. Derelict freighters? Boring slogs through a handful of rooms laid out in a linear manner with laughable threats. Starship customization? Oh boy you can swap out the wings of your fighter ship with a different set of fighter wings, maybe swap out the fighter cockpit with a different fighter cockpit. Settlements? Just a boring idle management mechanic. Corvettes? The fucking things are broken in multiplayer and on launch the ship making system was so broken it was barely usable due to it eating your parts if you tried to remove them while they weren't in their default rotation. They really don't even offer anything your regular ships or freighter can't already do. You can open the hatch in space and go EVA? Whoopdiefucking doo. There's nothing to do in space so at most you can just float aimlessly around your corvette until you get bored and get back in.
>>720680565Unironically why I'm not starting a run ever again. I can't be bothered with the "it opens up after 50h". It's a single player (mostly) game, not an MMO, I can't be bothered to do that much busywork to get to the real game.
>>720651558Now why would you lie like that? You can just build storage on your freighter and since all the storage systems are linked it makes building a storage system on a planet pointless. Furthermore, Hello.jpg in their unending retardation made it so storage containers on planets need a constant source of power so you're better off just building the storage containers on your freighter so you don't have to deal with that shit. Also unlike planetside bases you can just call your freighter over to you at any time. So to put it simply, the big ass customizable ship you get for free negates any reason you may ever have to build a base on a planet.
>tfw thought the translation exosuit mod would let me learn +1 word for every alien I spoke withdamn
>>720641107>Complete the main story (Artemis Path)>Unlock the hidden race (Autophages) >Find the center of the universe >Upgrade your character suit >Get a S tier Multi-tool >Get a S tier ship>Craft an S tier Corvette >Get an S tier freighter >Get all the vehicles (especially the Mech) >Build a base (for cosmetic or financial reasons) >Build a settlement (for financial reasons) >Get money through discovering life, trading, piracy, combat, manufacturing, gathering, exotic item collectingI don't know, im having fun, my above list of things to do. The Expedition I started for this corvette is great imo because it gives you all the stuff to skip this >>720680565. There isn't any busy work at all in comparison to when I first played, no more grind X to fill Y just to fly from one spot to another, I can buy everything I need to fill launch pads, engines and FTL travel. So everything is just a question of what content do I want to engage in. The only grind is Nanites which I am fine with, there are lots of ways to get them. Also playing it with a friend, its imo "almost" a coop game. Its not quite as coop as Valheim but its pretty close, sort of more like co-play where you do the same things at the same time in the same system. You can travel on each others ships but you have to be aligned on what you want to do in that session. But in many ways that's the same as val/enshrouded/grounded/ect where one usually gathers and one combats, then you get together sometimes for certain content. I would like better space combat, and a better coop space combat game. But there is none as far as I know of. Elite is a nightmare to coop and SC is a scam. The rest is typically indie/early access and NMS isn't so it has a lot more content for its price.
>>720682610I think the settings of those games are more interesting and help someone immerse themselves into the gameplay. But overall while I'm bored with NMS I've always known its just not a game for everyone and it isn't for me. Sheer quantity of content helps and if the game clicks for you it must be great. Games like NMS really showed me how important immersion is for people and how people feel better about basic gameplay loops if they already love what the game is showing.
>>720682534Yeah it sucks for what it is
>>720682534Naw. You just have 1 extra word translated (or more depending on how many of the translation modules you have installed) when talking to people.It's not too dissimilar from a translation app. How often do people bother remembering the shit they translate with it?
>>720683135Yeah the immersion part is terrible. Going from something like Elite to NMS you just wish it had the stability and immersion that it provides instead of a loose collective of planets which you bug/glitch and slide around. And most other survival games do a better job making you feel like a part of its setting. But it does its job well enough as a space exploration game in a genre where we have fuck all.
>>720651641find a pirate system, buy all the "suspicious packages" at its store, then open them and sell the mods for nanites at a real station. build a base (or frigate) with a teleporter to better facilitate going back and forth. note that it costs a lot of credits to do this, but credits are never in short supply.
>>720682534you can install all three versions of it for I think 6 words translated total and understand most of every conversation with every species without having to autismgrind for wordstones.
>>720682610Personally I loved the corvette expedition and custom ship building in general, though I wish they had more ways of getting pieces than salvage and derelicts, like being able to build a factory and fabricate them yourself on a larger scale for instance.
>>720685580the word stones arent really a grind its just u hit them wherever u come across them traveling. at like a 100hr play time on a normal playthru save game you should have almost every word translated.
>>720682534if you're on pc there's a mod to increase the amount of words you learn from npcs
That's cool, man. We always knew the constant tooltips and yellow ledges had to be for SOMEONE'S benefit. Let us know when your write your article on it for Gamespot.
I wish you could build a garage in your base to hold all your ships instead of only having a limit of like 6 with all but your active hidden in a menu.
>download the game again to check out the corvette update>spend a good while trying to build a corvette and struggling with it because the ship building system keeps randomly eating parts>finally finish>what next?>realize that the update adds nothing else and the only thing left to do is grind for other corvette parts>by doing the same shit I've already done time and time again to the point I'm sick of it>consider trying some EVA action>quickly realize there's no point to EVA shit since there's nothing in space except rocks, rocks, and more rocks>wonder why the fuck I even made the corvette in the first place when it's no better than any of my regular ships>uninstallThey could have added some actual content to accompany the corvette update, maybe some procgen shipwrecks that require you to go EVA to properly explore which in addition to giving EVA an actual purpose could provide for some cool six degree exploration but I guess that's a bit too much of a shit ass studio that can't even be bothered to test their updates to make sure they even work (there's absolutely no fucking way that shipbuilding glitch could have just slipped through the cracks given how frequently it happens. Hello knew full well how broken that shit was and released it anyway)
>>720687359your freighter has a hangar with all your ships sitting in it, anon
>>720687509it only shows like 4 of them. i want a garage that can hold 20+
>>720687445youre acting like further updates to build upon corvettes and fix bugs are out of the question.
>>720688547Given Hello's track record, yeah they are. They've successfully wowed retards like you with this useless update and they will never revisit it. They'll move on to adding some other meaningless fluff content guaranteed to dazzle braindead retards like you and never look back.
>>720641107game is made for retards, it has no difficulty, watching paint dry is way more exciting
>>720688547It took them far too long to give Settlements a proper update (and it's still just a half-assed timer to get resources).And yeah I doubt we'll see anything he mentioned. But exploring smaller derelicts and shit on-foot would be neat.
>720689640this tranny is SEETHING
>>720689703>have basebuilding mechanics in the game>have alien language translation mechanics in the game>add a feature where you build an alien settlement>there's no basebuilding, just picking between prefabs>citizen disputes don't use the alien languages at all and all citizens are functionally identical>also the whole thing is irl timegated like it's fucking clash of clansprobably the most minimum viable product update they ever released, and the second update didn't make things any more interesting
>>720641107>"dude the game is amazing now!">reinstall>it's the same shit mining rocks like I did when the game first came outFuck this game and everyone who shills it
what is it about no man's sky that always brings out the malding troons?
>>720691203When the people who always insist it's a good game when it's the same game it's been, just with more useless shit on top.
>>720691242and other people liking the game for some reason makes you clench your dilator with rage?
>>720691242i'm having fun and will continue to speak positively of the game
>>720691242Why would someone who thinks it's good be malding? If anything it sounds like the people mad are the ones saying the latter half to the people who like the game.
>>720691348>Why would someone who thinks it's good be malding?Dunno you tell me. They keep making threads insisting it's good.
>>720691485wanting to talk about the game is malding?
>>720691485Sounds like they're making a thread because they like the game. That still doesn't sound like malding.
I still can't believe retards shilled this as a game to play if you liked Freelancer
>>720691485>They keep making threads insisting it's good.Anon, you do realize the OP of this thread is hating on the game right?That goes against your narrative that the malding people who "insist it's a good game" are the ones that keep making threads.
No Man's Sky threads suck here because all anyone ever does is bitch and complain instead of talking about the game
>>720693153Bitching about the game is talking about it thoughbeit