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im farming money
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcRFymxk3eo
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>>720642224
The fact is that I don't care for Sinner's Road. What were they thinking with that maggot water?
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How do I cheese coral tower? Not interested in learning another gauntlet arena.
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>>720642268
TROOOBBIOOOOOO
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>>720642349
>I don't care for Sinner's Road. What were they thinking with that maggot water?
oh anon.....
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>act 2 lacks bosses
>act 3 has too many shit bosses
ugh
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>>720642357
Use the architect crest. Your tool usage costs no shards in the memory/dream fights.
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>>720642357
cogfly? Poison? Tacks? it wasnt really that hard
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>>720642448
What tools are the best? Besides cogflies, that much is obvious.
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>>720642481
It's probably not hard once you get the hang of it but I've been rolling my eyes at these gauntlet fights for a while now. It's getting really old and they are overused in this game so I just want to move past them asap. I already took two hours to learn high halls without cheesing that one to oblivion.
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>>720642224
My complaints from sSilksong stem from the existence of steam in the engine, in Holow Knight you could play as a knight, on this game enemies die in more hits than Ild like and its more than it should be - also they really werent thinking much when they thought this through were they? what makes the bug is the toughness of his chiten, And Team Cherry knows how to make a good sequal, what makes the bug is the toughness of his chiten, You think that the game is too hard because you spammed tools, I think the game is too hard because i spammed tools, we are the same
That brings me to my final point, They made a whole lot of starngter erotic desicsions in this video game released on steam and epic and the nintendo switch and also I the Ari is the lead artist for the Alicesoft department and Hornet is the most popular figure in womens gaming 2015 thats how you know when it's good, it's good! thats all folks, so when they started playing the trumpet I was alll like 'Woah!' amd O iO I pogged and soifaced when the Hollow Knight from Hollow Knight thats when the game really started and 'wow'
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>>720642498
I used cogflies, silkshot and tacs, all with polip pouch. The tacs were for the fat fucks that charge at you across the arenas, the cogflies for the flying conch niggers and the silkshot for just opportunistic blamming whenever more than 2 enemies were lined up.
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Why are bosses like phantom or first sinner that flip out and never stop attacking so much easier than fighting a bus that kills you if it touches you like beastfly or broodmother or fucking disgraced chef
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>>720642357
Same as every other arena, architect + quick sling + spam tools or wanderer + druid eyes + spam parry.
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>>720642594
>they are overused
that i can agree with
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>50 hours in
>still no act 2 crests
>still feel weak
Shit game.
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>>720642594
You unlock a shortcut after 3 gauntlets. Just focus on doing that, don't hold anything in reserve.
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>>720642594
just build architect regen , literally no arena fight can stop that build
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>>720642645
The big fat assholes are unpredictable the fast guys are fast but generally pretty predictable, its why niggers with slow delayed attacks in souls are way harder than honest fights that are just fast
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>>720642597
based schizo
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you cant play this game like hk where you play it casually and relies on skill , you have to abuse builds to their max potential unless you are a masochist.
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>>720642597
@grok is this true?
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>>720642893
or you can just git gud. You don't even get the best cheese tools in the game until you're halfway through act 2 anyway
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>>720642614
>>720642647
>>720642662
>>720642697
>>720642732
How do I git gud with architect? I run out of tools by the second arena already. I don't have the quick sling though, is that good?
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I'm approaching the end of Act 3.
Fantastic game so far, I had a blast.

- I still think the flying enemies are the worst fucking things in that game. I don't mind runbacks and tough bosses. But that shit stinks.
- I think the marker system don't really work cleaning up the map is very time consuming, difficult, and sometime not intuitive at all.
- Crests are not really working. It's not bad, but it's heh.
Aside from that GOTY.
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>>720642978
It's easier than the second one
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>>720642338
Sex with human men
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>>720642224
I sometimes struggled to understand how some people had such a hard time with this game, but then I remembered some people died to Soldier of Godrick
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>finally find every area
>watch some videos
>see this
how am I still missing entire areas of the game?
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>>720643058
quick sling uses 2 charges so it isnt really that good
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>>720642224
>20 hours in
>still in act 1
>can't progress in the blasted steps without another movement upgrade (i assume)
>explored every inch of the map i can reach so far

sinner's road is kicking my ass bros. i'm assuming this is where i need to be right?
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>>720642893
stop speaking for ourselves please it's just you
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>>720643058
>I run out of tools by the second arena already
Did you not read architects special ability when you got it?
It can reload tools
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>>720642224
That was a coolass fight
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>>720643167
I forgot to mention I'm also dogshit so my silk gets used for healing lmao.
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Just found out one of the silk spools can be glitched and unobtainable. I am now sitting on 99% completion on a 50 hour save.
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How to fix shards:
>shard pendant now attracts shards like magnet brooch so you don't lose 90% of them every time you break a rock or kill an enemy near spikes
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>>720643098
To be fair its decently well hidden, and an EXTREMELY small area, like 4 or 5 screens if I remember right
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>>720643098
you didn't find the three pixels signifying a hidden path in a starting area you'd never think to go back to
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For a second I thought the game was giving me the equivalent of the dream nail portals...
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>Go through all the trouble of going through the deep dock once I unlock the clawline
>Dead end
Well. Fuck me I guess.
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>>720643058
The moveset owns even without tools, try practicing? The charge attack alone is fantastic for gauntlets, you can just delete the annoying flying guy in each wave immediately.
And iirc the fat guys in that tower only take two charged hits (but using the strong variant of the pogo on them is probably safer).
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how are you guys running out of shards?
I spent the entire game using spamming threefold pin and flea brew and I have like 16 shard bundles left over. is it cause I never really used architect?
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>>720643148
>Using tacks
YDBTG
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>>720643129
>i'm assuming this is where i need to be right?
After wall jump you can do all of blasted steps or just do sinners road and take the alternative path
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>>720643148
but i didn't use it blindbro
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>>720643124
>I miss Deepnest
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>>720643325
shards problem ran out the moment you get cogfly/silkshot to farm the shit out of those guards.
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>>720643129
All you need is wall climb to get up blasted steps, all other movement upgrades are past it
>i'm assuming this is where i need to be right?
You don't need to be anywhere, this game is very nonlinear and most of the content is optional
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I got the two melodies and was about to get the third one but they wanted me to do a puzzle where I make a music chart and I said no way Jose and stopped playing. All in all 7/10 experience I liked Hollow Knight more.
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>>720643148
>its just you
>using caltrops
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>>720643418
>>720643368
fuck it
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>>720643325
Dummies are spamming them at the start of boss fights instead of actually trying to learn the fight and just blitzing tools to finish them off when they're low, I guess.

I felt like I was pretty liberal with tools and still pretty much always had max shards.
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>I am a daughter of Hallownest
This whole section was so well done
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>>720642224
ok I admit it, Bilewater has broken me. Finding out there was a boss at the end of all that bullshit was too far.
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>>720643026
>Tacks
Three folds pins aren't bad either
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>>720643482
based retard
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>>720642597
Are you okay anon?
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So how many bosses actually summon ads?
Like 8 or 9?
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>>720643368
>>720643483
His uses are full you retards
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>>720643295
It will give you something better
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i dont use tools
regular slashes are more fun than just pressing a button 5 times to shred 70% of a boss' health
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>>720643368
>pollip pouch
>architect's crest
>cogfly
>tacks
>boomerang
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>>720643514
I feel like that segment would've played out better if the scenes you saw played in reverse. Why does Hornet have trouble remembering something when she was already older, and not a teeny tiny bug?
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>>720643325
>flea brew
Speaking of which, is there an item that gives you the ability to refill the reserve without visiting the circus? I have the hiveblood equivalent
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>>720643514
idk anon that loli is looking pretty medium rare to me
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>>720642681
Why are you expecting "act 2 crests" (this has no meaning btw in an open world game) to be stronger than other crests, for some reason?
And then you're the one to scream about the sacred "balance" in every game.
Why would your mind go to crests as the symbol of power, when the game has health, weapon, movement, powers, tools and charms upgrades?

I felt all powerful at any point of the game with the wanderer crest, maybe it's your fault and not the crest.
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>bilewater was the last area I entered, so I had almost fully upgraded nail, tons of movement options and the maggot immunity charm
>found the final boss of the area hard but tolerably so

I can't imagine how much this must have sucked for the poor fuckers who decided to fight him much earlier in the game.
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>>720643643
As far as I know, the best you can do is get free refills, but still need to visit them fleas for it.
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>>720643643
You dont need a flea brew equivalent, just inject more Plasmium.
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>>720643526
There's a hidden cave above the boss arena with enough silk to cure yourself.
Then after the gauntlet, jump back in the maggots, because the boss has zero attacks that can hit you in water.

Bilewater is overhyped, nothing in there is really threatening. The dart guys are easy to run past and not worth engaging and the mosquitos are just pogo aids/respawning silk bags.
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at the kingdom's edge in the blasted steppes, can you ever get up to those platforms?
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>>720643526
>beat him first try
heh
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>>720643325
>how are you guys running out of shards?
By not having any to begin with.
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>>720643667
>I can't imagine
i can haha that was me yes I spent an hour stuck on that frog nigger and yes he was the hardest boss in the game for me!
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>>720643610
swap tacks for silkshot(beam) late game tacks kinda falls off for whatever reason
By act3 you get an infinite reserve of plasmium so no point in not using regen
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>>720643816
you need hook and double jump
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>>720643473
>After wall jump you can do all of blasted steps
>All you need is wall climb to get up blasted steps
welp guess i'm blind then. have the wall jump but i must've missed something. gonna head back there then and poke around some more. thanks guys.
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>>720643816
yeah in act 3
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>>720643891
i have that
am i retarded
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>>720643664
>to be stronger than other crests, for some reason?
Everyone is using them. Not getting any new upgrades in act 2 just feels bad compared to act 1.
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>>720643482
>he got filtered by a toddler level puzzle
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>>720643074
You are a true gamer. The one major probem of this game is flyers. Who the fuck thought it would be a good idea to make every enemy teleport out of range as soon as you are near? And the majority of enemies are flying. Just insane.
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>>720643928
okay im not there yet
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>>720643937
there is a raised platform on the floor, you need to sprint jump from it then hook + double jump
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>>720643295
You pretty much do. You can use the beastlings to fast travel back to the bellway which is pretty much how everyone used dream gates. You just set them near a stag station and fast traveled back there.
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>>720643981
Harpoon.
Architect charge attack.
Any of the one hundred tools you have.
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https://youtu.be/J4QB1wB88t4?t=95
When does this ending play? Or is it datamined shit?
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>>720642893
>you have to abuse builds to their max potential
You're making the experience worse for yourself by trying to get through the game with as little effort as possible. When you beat a boss, you should feel like you've figured them out and can read them like a book, not like you've just eked out a win by tanking every hit and spamming cogflies. I just beat First Sinner on my fifth or sixth try. I have no nail upgrades, didn't use any tools and I got her to phase 2 on my first try. It isn't hard to be not shit at the game if you're familiar with HK, or if you put in the effort by figuring out how to recognise and respond to a boss's moves.
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>>720643979
I came here to beat up bugs not solve puzzles
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game is too hard
but I'm still having fun
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>Hurgh..!
Was I supposed to have a raging boner for this?
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>>720643124
Man, that Rematch in far fields with him was way worse than the temple. I feel bad for the anons who just wanted a mask shard and then got put into hell trying to beat him again.
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Every single aerial enemy has the "asshole" flight pattern with that fucking backstep as soon as you get near.
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flea juggle fucking sucks.
>two fleas go in the opposite direction
lol
lmao
so fucking good.
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>>720644043
i already tried that so i guess i really am retarded
i even thought silk speed and flea brew might help you jump higher
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theres a fucking limit to the number of rosary necklaces you can hold? i just farmed up 10 grand to convert into necklaces
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>architectfags
DONT DO IT. I REGRET CHEESING THE FIRST SINNER. YOU ARE RUINING YOUR OWN EXPERIENCE.
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>>720643829
Frog is piss easy it's just a shit fight to redo because of the dragged out add sequence
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FIX YOR FUCKING DOGSHIT GAME TEAM CHERRY
>FIX YOR FUCKING DOGSHIT GAME TEAM CHERRY
FIX YOR FUCKING DOGSHIT GAME TEAM CHERRY
>FIX YOR FUCKING DOGSHIT GAME TEAM CHERRY
FIX YOR FUCKING DOGSHIT GAME TEAM CHERRY
>FIX YOR FUCKING DOGSHIT GAME TEAM CHERRY
FIX YOR FUCKING DOGSHIT GAME TEAM CHERRY
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>>720643239
which one?
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>>720644210
After seeing everyone talk about how OP architect is Im glad I put it away the moment I saw its pogo
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>>720643748
I already saw what happened to your apprentice. I'm not falling for your tricks.
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>>720642357
The enemies there are all pretty easy and die quickly if you upgraded your nail.
I usually hate these kind of challenges but I think it's honestly the best gauntlet they've ever made, it's not punishing at all and regularly gives you free passive enemies to heal back up on.
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>>720644164
>me playing fresh as a friend has already no-lifed and completed it
>we're streaming and she does this
>'oh shit she's finally having the little knight's kid'
>'wtf that's what I said cunt'
>'7 years in labour must be a bitch'
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DEFEND THIS ASSBOSS
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>>720642224
Cogwheel Dancers phase 4 was absolute cinema. Really tugged at my heartstrings. Hope there's more fights like that.
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>>720642224
How do I cheese bilewater gauntlet?
It's pretty annoying and I'm getting burned out.
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>>720644264
the float sometimes really struggles to notice a ledge you can climb or cling onto walls
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>>720644303
GYATTTT
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>>720644264
should have waited one more second and Edino! into the wall
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>>720644264
mm sorry babe your 2 pixels too low, sure hornets a spider but surely you cant expect her to wall grab from THAT angle?
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>>720644176
>grapple
>literally just dash towards them
>sharpdart
>silkspear
>any of the throwable tools
>sawtooth circlet
it's a non issue unless you explicitly refuse to use the tools the game gives you
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why did they remove him?
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>>720644353
I found it shallow and pedantic
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>>720644210
I WILL cheese every boss with tool spam and there is nothing you can do about it
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>>720644264
Literally me
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>>720643971
No? The vast majority of people are using reaper or wanderer. The rest are using architect, and that's only because you can spam infinite poison tools and cheese the game with it
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>>720643482
You just match up the lines. You don't need to know fucking music theory or anything.
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>>720644303
>wreath of purity
>poison cogflies
Simple as.
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>>720644353
>Hope there's more fights like that.
There is in fact another boss that is homosexual in the game
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If the game gives you tools to beat it and you use the tools to beat the game, then you beat the game.
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>>720644391
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>>720644264
the float is a crutch and it has a high likelihood of fucking up your movement and limiting your heights.
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>>720643610
Arisu chan you did NOT beat the game
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>>720644062
I didn't see the part where I said I couldn't kill flyers
I said it's fucking retarded as a concept and a major flaw of the game
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>>720643074
>- Crests are not really working. It's not bad, but it's heh.
I wish more people talked about how shit the crest system is.
All of the late game ones are so pointed its annoying

>Oh you want to heal? Fuck off
>Oh you want to use skills? Fuck off
>Oh you want to use tolls? Fuck off
It creates a situation where you either lock yourself out of game stuff or are stuck using the same goddamn crest for the entire game which undermines the entire system
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>>720642893
I went through it with base nail, green druid thing, poison thing, javelin, tacks sprint boost and compass
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i still use hunter crest
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>>720643124
>*record scratch* yep, that's me...
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>>720644480
He'll be in the Steel Soul exclusive DLC
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My crest? Hunter.
My skill? Silk sprear
My tool? Dont use them

Yep, its gaming time
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>>720644501
Try jumping.
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>>720644460
>wreath of purity
Please tell me this is a charm that makes me immune to the maggots and how can I get it.
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>>720643816
To reach the platforms, you need the special item from the area at the top leftmost part of the map. The platforms don't lead to anything interesting though, I think it was just a relic or a flea or something.
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>>720643124
dodge left into the little guy and you atleast wont die
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>>720644484
this game mostly feels great but it's really weird how fucking bad the float feels. getting the double jump was a godsend
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My crest? Wanderer.
My skill? Parry
My tool? Just longnail

Yep, its gaming time
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>>720644529
you use skills?
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>>720644210
>DONT DO IT
too late
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Why the FUCK is Shaman crest locked behind act 3?
Locking it behind double jump would have been enough.
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What's so supposedly busted about Architect? Won't use it for a long time anyway since I've spent my memory lockets elsewhere.
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>>720644516
based poker
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well, if i cant stockpile all my money for the voidpocalypse i guess the last thing on my to do list is to complete the pokedex as much as i can
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>>720644403
IF YOU ARE THE SORT OF PERSON WHO ACTUALLY ENJOYS LEARNING BOSS FIGHTS AVOID ARCHITECT. IF YOU COULDN'T GIVE A SHIT THEN I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU.
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can you really say you beat the game if you didnt go through the whole thing naked? (before they patched it out)
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>>720644638
triple red tool slot, huge lingering hitboxes on its attacks
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>>720644568
You don't need it. Avoid the balls. (This is a general life tip.)
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Is there some pattern about where the memory lockets are? Like is there one and only one per mapped area?
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I finally finished silksong. At least I assume lost lace was the final boss. I wonder if team cherry will do more updates. I really loved this game.

I had to look up 4 things when I got stuck:
-how to reach heart of the woods
-how to get the flea beneath the putrified ducts (didn't know bilehaven existed)
how to get the flea beneath the underworks (same with the wisp thicket)
advice for the gauntlet in the high halls (those 2 big guys at the end were like the hardest fight in the game without cheesing)
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>>720644621
Infinite tools is the big one, but on top of that it does more damage than other crests for some reason, and has good range
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>>720644293
It could as well be but I'm simply tired of the endless gauntlet fights the game has been throwing at me. For fuck's sake, even a lot of bossfights start with a gauntlet. I simply stopped having fun with those so I don't even want to waste my time learning them.
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>>720644205
try different sequence of actions, you sprint jump first, hookshot to get close, and then double jump
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>>720644621
Because its secretly op and trivializes platforming and flyers but most people will never touch it because they are leaning too hard on tools to cheese everything
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>>720644503
anon if you want to be a jack of all trades there are like 3 crests like that in the game
there should be some tradeoffs
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>>720644390
>>grapple
Deals pathetic damage and places you in a terrible position where you are likely to get hit
>>literally just dash towards them
Literally doesn't work, that's the problem he's pointing out
>>sharpdart
Can use once or twice
>>silkspear
Can use once or twice
>>any of the throwable tools
Can use 10-20 times, more reasonable, but still not enough unless you have benches every two minutes. Also costs shards
>>sawtooth circlet
What the fuck
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>>720644568
Yeah, same area you get longnail. It's kinda hard to find though. You need some parkour and double jump. If you want spoilers, go look up a video cuz I can't really describe the whole process in text.
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>>720644708
no, some areas have zero and some have more than one
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>>720644186
nvm i did it :D
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>>720644176
Use shaman crest
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Worth the 880? I've made it to the Citadel, so money isn't that hard to come by anymore.
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>let's put no benches in this fucking shitass zone for twelve years that makes sense
>im sure our players will love doing this slow ass jump puzzle over and over to get there in sands
>Yeah man it's the best
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>>720642681
There's only one "act 2 crest". The other two are in act 3 only. Act 2 has the two best movement upgrades in the game though.
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My only complaint about the game is that the naked prison break sequence is missable
tfw too good at games fo get kidnapped
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>>720644834
She likes how it tingles.
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>>720644834
Some flavour text in your house
Get used to more and more rewards being that as you get deeper into act 3
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>>720644873
Shamans the only act 3 crest
Witch and Architect can be gotten in act 2
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>>720644568
It does
But I don't know how it works, sounds like it protects from only one poison, or breaks if you take a hit, making it useless
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>>720644840
grats anon
The flea juggling is weird in that the hardest part is from flea 5-20, then it gets easier despite there being more fleas at once because the rhythm feels more consistent
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>>720644873
shaman and ?
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I love this game's mechanics, difficulty and bossfights but I hate Pharloom as a setting. It's so much less comfy than Hallownest was.
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>>720644264
why would you not just harpoon to the wall from there?
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>>720644806
>wreath of purity
>longnail
Tell me more. Is it in Bilewater? I didn't explore those areas (want to beat normal ending first)
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>>720644503
it'd be nice if ng+ included all the crests from the start, it'd be fun replaying the game sticking to a different crest each time
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>>720644879
i knew there was some sort of prison sequence but intentionally getting caught never crossed my mind so it took me a while
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>>720644926
It's duration based, you can stand in maggot water for like 10s total before it breaks
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>>720644867
If you want 100% you need it
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From pay-per-seat, we go now to pay-per-save?
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>>720644867
It's one of the weaker blue options
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>>720644063
Either datamined shit or Steel Soul content.
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wher the fuck do these guys live again
ive checked what i thought were all the early game lava areas
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Fuck my life I can't even cheese Karmelita with architect. I JUST WANT THIS GAME TO FUCKING END.
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>>720644638
3 red tool slots. robots constantly attacking, pins on the floor doing constant damage, boomerang doing multiple hits per throw, poison ticking away on the boss. You basically just need to run away from the boss and your tools will do it all for you.

Then add on top of that architect gets huge range, pierces, multihits on attacks, and has a pretty easy diagonal pogo.

its fucking ridiculously overpowered. you don't need to learn fights. just keep tool uptime and play keepaway.
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>>720644867
I only ever used it for platforming sections I had a hard time with.
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>>720644718
>Infinite tools
it literally has 0 tools though
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>>720642224
>one final boss is just reused radiance, thematically and combat wise
>the other is just reusing a boss in the game three times
rest of the games pretty good but the final fights sucked ass
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>black abyss muck covering up black abyss spike telegraphs on an abyss black boss that uses an abyss black spell that partially hides their model to teleport in front of your dashes for free contact damage
artificial difficulty
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>>720642349
Don't worry it gets worse
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>>720644638
Tools are the thing that is busted, not the crest. You can spend silk to recharge your tools. Everyone is running poison cogflies and caltrops and apparently this destroys bosses
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>>720644621
>Why the FUCK is Shaman crest locked behind act 3?
7 years of development. Please understand.
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>>720645028
pay-per-save is just resident evil
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>>720645028
the consequence of industrial revolution
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>>720644303
I died to Shameful Ravioli more times than at any other point in that quest. I first-tried the courier portion but this fucker was an asshole. I hate maggot poison.
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>>720645042
The fuckable bug ponies are in the beginning magma areas yeah.
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>>720644984
Ducts
You aren't locked into an ending so you can still get the normal ending even if you get everything
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>>720645042
they live in my cum jar where i feed them with cummy-wummies~
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>>720644945
Fuck no it gets harder when there's more fleas you moron
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>>720645042
There's a good spot to farm them in act 3, in in far fields, in the area that leads to one of the hearts
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>>720645042
Marrow lava areas
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>>720644638
You get 3 tool slots so you can spam cogfly, sting shard, and tacks to obliterate bosses and that's even before you give the tools the poison status and if that's not enough apparently you can overdose on lifeblood with the plasmium tool by constantly recrafting it oh did I mention you can spend silk to recraft tools yeah that means you can infinitely spam them oh and by the way architect charge attack? Yeah it does bullshit level damage if you boost it with flintslate it one shots mini bosses sorry not sorry
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>>720644176
I can handle that
Its the fat fucking birds that will randomly drop down half the screen just to teabag you before fluttering back up.
These guys are all fucking assholes.
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>>720644084
I want to bulldoze anything that look at me funny
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>>720645121
>Ducts
Where are they? I think I have seen this area but didn't map it.
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>>720645152
thanks anon
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>>720645164
>fighting the voided up versions
I'm so glad the bird boss didnt spawn those niggers
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>>720645161
overdosing on blue blood is so overpowered it give you a 5second mask regen , so you dont have to heal and focus sheerly on making new tools mid battle.
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>install bench warp
>install retry on boss death
>install tools don't require shards to refill
>game instantly improves
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>>720645057
cheese it with wanderer instead
you'll parry 90% of her attacks by accident just by spamming
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>>720645078
No the crest is busted too your charge attack does insane damage. I believe it's the strongest non tool attack in the game based on the numbers somebody posted recently
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>>720645195
To the right of memorium and above bilewater, I think you have to reach it from both places to open the doors
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>>720645060
combine that with plasmium OD'ing for passive health regen and as long as you can dodge most hits, you never even need to stop to heal
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>attempted a steel soul
>got stickbugged
Okay I guess next time I'll go for the broken mask charm ASAP.
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What's the best location to farm rosaries in Act 2?
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>>720645248
Trust me, facetanking and spamming attack was the first thing I tried because I'm so sick of act 3 and want to roll credits so I could go play HK again instead.
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>>720644984
No, there is an area called Putrified ducts which is above bilateral. Alot of people think you need to beat Groal to get there but you can actually reacg it from going to the right of Memorium (citadel area which absolutely needs double jump to reach). Alot of the entrance are pretty well hidden though because the devs built the area around double jump. It's kinda shitty, like the devs intentionally didn't want players getting their hands on those two tools by hiding them in such a hard to find area.
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So much shit that is in Act 3 should've just been in Act 2
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The game will lead you there eventually, just ignore Bilewater and keep playing, don't forget to return to Bonebottom/Bellheart/Songclave from time to time to check for new quests.
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>>720642224
what is this and how do i get it?
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I'm saving architect for later playthroughs when I don't care as much about experiencing the fights for the first time.
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>>720645246
Based game beater
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>Shermas song is syllabically identical to Demon Sultan Azathoth
Interesting
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Is the lacquer delivery to the mask maker worth doing?
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>>720644867
Absolutely. It has never left my crest. It heals you two times, 2 and 2. It takes twice as long as the normal heal, but it can be great to make you hover in the air and avoid tons of attacks.
It's even more amazing with the charm later on that accelerates healing. Also with the one that deals damage on heals.
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>>720644920
Ah, my mistake. You have to do that one awful quest to get it, which is why I haven't seen it yet.
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>>720645150
nah, it becomes way easier once you're at 4 fleas
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>>720644501
nigga just throw a boomerang
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>>720645345
cogfly its located in high halls , bring a craftmetal to get it , it is one of the most overpowered gear in the game.
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>>720645360
>faggot
>posting yaoi manga
checks out
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>>720645345
Cogfly, you buy it from an NPC in Underworks iirc
To make it purple, find and equip a blue tool that gives your red tools poison
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The whiteward boss can suck my cock. Why did they think it was a good idea to basically design a boss around accidental contact damage
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>>720645320
one of the quests lead you to that place
the one that asks you to find the first shrine merchant i think
so it's not that hidden
wisp thicket on other hand...
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>>720645278
You can explore all of Ducts without beating Bilewater, I know because I have. The last portion of my map to fill in before Act 3 is the connection between Bilewater and Ducts because I haven't bothered investing time in the Bilewater boss encounter.
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>>720645042
Deep Docks to Far Fields area
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DEFEND THIS YOU SILK FUCKS
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>>720644867
It is a tool that's usefulness is determined by how much you tend to get hit. Therefor it is good if you get hit a lot but is less good the better you are at the game. You can think of most tools this way.
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>signis
>signis and gron
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>>720645510
jump over his head?
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>>720644867
It turns your single +3HP binding into two +2HP bindings (same cost);
It's good for platforming challenges if you combine it with the druid's eyes, but for combat I prefer the injector or a damage-dealing tool.
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>>720645383
Ex fucking splain yourself
Sherma is a good boy, leave him the fuck out of this cosmic shit
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>>720645460
>yaoi manga
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>>720644970
I know right? The world feels so much less credible, too video gamey. That's my only gripe with the game and the reason I think HK is the better game.
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>>720645510
just jump over the big nigga, it isn't hard
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>>720645495
Yeah I was referring to the ceiling connecting both areas which require defeating the Bilewater boss
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>>720645510
made for after you getting double jump, there's even a lil silk eater in white ward to get your rosaries back so you don't have to jump into the pit
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>>720645554
Just beat that. Wear the lava charm and keep focusing down Signis. He didn't seem to summon more ads so clear them ASAP so you can just focus on keeping your distance and slapping him before backing off.
Longpin is a good choice for being able to slap both at once because they will repeatedly overlap
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>>720645510
hit him when he emerges and then sprint away + jump on wall, allow yourself to slide if he's spitting projectiles
for the spear phases, the spears don't spawn based on your location. It's a pretty fixed pattern that you can learn and adjust for. If he emerges in the middle he won't attack and you get a ton of free hits.
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>>720645574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOmW7gm25_8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHAeJSwUbaw
The first verse of sherma lines up perfect with the start of the verse in azathoth as is, the rest of sherma lines up if slowed down
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>>720645510
>throw tacks
>boss dies
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>>720645460
>recognizing yaoi manga
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>>720642268
TROBBIOO
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>>720644970
the world is too disconnected and the story is too simplistic and in-your-face. HK had a much more nuanced minimalistic way of telling it's story
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The bilehaven fight does not respect my time, so I will not respect it. Architect will see to it swiftly, yes.
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is there a movement skill in the underworks? fucking hell m8 I don't want to go back to that place but I can't seem to progress in the citadel
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>>720645702
>Groal in B
for BASED
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>>720645674
r u dumb
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Endings/MIssable shit question
I have gathered the three melodies and went and got parasited by the shellwood thingie
I understand this leads to an specific ending that requires me to beat the game on this state w/o healing the infection
So i go turn on the three melodies keep playing normally, eventually hopefully i can finish the game like this then... do i get sent back to before the final boss so that i can do the healing quest?
Thank you in advance
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>>720645554
magma bell works against them lol
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Is the bound prisoner's cage hidden in The Slab meant to be an Act 3 thing? I was able to wall kick up there but it sort of felt unintentional, I didn't finish breaking it free for fear of softlocking something
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>>720645751
there is
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How many memory lockets do you need to use to get Eva's upgrades?
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>>720645671
does the lava charm make them do 1 heart instead of 2?
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>>720645751
yeah.
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Sherma is gonna get the same fate as Myla isn't she
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>>720644867
It's godtier with the fast healing charm you get from White Ward.
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>>720645712
it doesnt help that they just lazily redid the 'bugs being possessed by mysterious god-being' plotline
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>>720645806
i did it in act 2, the key was deep at the end of bilewater, which was a damn trek on its own
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>>720645751
Clawline aka the hook. You have to enter the underworks through whiteward.
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>>720645702
>cogworkers in S
>cogworkers but green in C
Explain
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>>720645702
In what universe is Granny a better boss fight that the Phantom of the Opera
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>>720645823
yeah. It does that for any enemy that uses fire
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How to open the diving bell in Deep Docks?
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>>720645801
Yeah, if you beat the game you'll see credits roll, but upon reloading save file you start from your last bench
So you can beat the game, then go and cure the infection
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>>720645801
>do i get sent back to before the final boss so that i can do the healing quest?
Yes
Good luck
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>>720645858
well this was meant to be HK dlc after all
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>>720645383
>>720645674
>Anon posts eldtrich knowledge to the thread
>>720645574
>The people reject this cosmic truth
Well done, how did you notice this? Did the bloodborne reference and stuff make you go digging for other references
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>>720645801
Yes, you just get back to the previous save after beating the game. You can get the parasite, then the normal and then progress into act 3 in one save (as long as you do it in this order).
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>>720645804
I had magma bell on for reasons of not having any other blue tools worth equipping so why not, and was really delighted to discover that it turns their 2-mask attacks into 1 mask attacks and expends itself.
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>>720645801
go finish the game right now and get the special ending, your save will put you at the last bench and you can cure yourself and continue as normal
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>>720645510
Nigga just use poison tacks.
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>>720645928
come back later
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>>720644970
I guess part of the problem is that the religion of Pharloom is extremely under developed.
Compare that to the goings on of Hallownest, how people were fighting the corruption in different ways, were united in their faith in the pale king and just how much we got to see into his thought process throughout the game, Pharloom feels very much less developed.
Sort of a shame really. I dont want to keep repeating SEVEN YEARS but you think atleast they would have worked out a way to make the world a bit less two dimensional
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Bros wtf. How do I hover after single jumping if I have double jump? Is it really not possible?
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do i need an item to get through the mist area? just stumbled on it from sinner's road, still in act 1
shit looks like randomly generated rooms and i can't find a pattern to it
ghost ladies are spooking me too
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>>720645702
Lost Lace and Red Queen both block too much. Nobody enjoys having their rare openings to attack completely negated by rng TING's
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>>720644270
A reward for collecting about half of the fleas. I speculate that if you collect too many they just skip to the next reward.
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>>720645116
gracious, they do look like ponies
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>>720642224
Am I blind or am I missing something? I can't find the boss in the bloodborne area.
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>>720645940
Thank you
>>720645946
Thank you, im not the best player ever so doing it w/o healing and blind doesn't sound like fun, but it is what it is, maybe i shouldn't have let a random forest monster creature nut inside hornet
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>>720645797
BI NA SO MI MA NI SEP (7)
DA NA FON SU ROO BO (6)
DE MON SUL TAN A ZA THOTH (7)
BU BBLES IN CON FU SION (6)
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>>720645806
It's almost certainly intended for Act 2 but you can leave it for later. I recommend doing it now.
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I didnt find hunters march to be that bad early(fuck beastfly tho). Apparently people a lot of people are having trouble with that area
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>>720646015
play some tunes to the fireflies
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>>720646015
Play the song of your people.
If you don't have that yet it is technically possible to brute force it though yes.
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>>720645950
Act 3 begins now
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>>720645806
You get the key in act 2 and it's not hard to reach it so I assume it's intentional.
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>>720645806
You mean the first sinner? It can be done in act 2.
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>>720646035
I remember someone else saying the purpose of that questline is to teach Hornet she shouldn't just say yes to everyone she meets
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>>720645674
I hear it, but what's that azathoth song from? is it original? kinda feel like it's based on something else
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>>720645950
Save corrupted
Good thing you made a copy
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>>720645885
really? I need to find another entrance?
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>>720646061
The area overal isn't so bad, but I did find the ants gauntlet really fucking hard until I got another HP and the thread storm power
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>>720645510
Sawblades
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>>720645814
I had all crests and was missing 5 unlocks when I got everything.
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>>720646016
lost lace blocking is beneficial for you tho. you just jump and get your 1-2 hits right after.
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>>720644979
Maybe he ran out of silk or wanted to preserve what silk he had.
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>>720646128
>hey we added this quest to the game that teaches you how you shouldn't take every quest in the game
I hate this shit
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>check comment section of forebrother boss fight in youtube
>see this
this is a sole reason TC shouldn't listen to their fan's feedback
most of them are retarded
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>>720646131
It's original but its supposed to have a christmas-ey feel to it so it probably blends with other christmas songs
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>>720646010
it was possible but they patched it out because shitters complained
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>>720645116
i chortled
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>>720645806
I did it in act two, probably meant for act 3 though since she feels harder than grand mother silk while having some similar moves
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>>720645887
You already know the moveset so it's easier
nta
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>>720645674
I remember that song from black souls.
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>>720645387
lol
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>>720646260
>probably meant for act 3
Theres no way, shes fun but already way too easy in act 2
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>>720646227
to be fair, I think a lot of HK fans might have only done the basic ending and left it at that
you don't need to do anything particularly difficult to just see the credits roll, whereas I think Silksong asks a bit more of you to see the same
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>>720646239
I now regret updating. I'm seething so hard.
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>>720645387
it's just money
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>>720645387
No, but it's not particularly difficult either.
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>>720645814
I heard it's 15 memory lockets.
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What's the best act 2 location for farming. Or is my best bet still Greymoor
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>>720645672
>If he emerges in the middle he won't attack and you get a ton of free hits.
NTA but thank you that tip made him free
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>>720646007
It's difficult because HK was a completely fresh slate. You start as an unknown in a cave with no knowledge of higher beings, kingdoms, or curses. You don't even know why you're there until things start to unfold, you just explore. It had a blank tapestry to work with. In Silksong a lot of the elements of the universe are already in place. It becomes harder to keep things mysterious.
I still like the way the pilgrimage and tribute was developed and played out, but a lot of the core elements were things we already knew about, so there's less to unveil.
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why cant she just grab the rosaries out of the bowl? why does this whore need to hit them out so they roll into the spikepit beside it? who thought this was a good idea?
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>>720646107
It involved a fairly finicky double-jump to wall kick to get up there, I just wanted to be sure it wasn't supposed to rely on the Act 3 super jump to reach it is all.

>>720646115
Thank you
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>>720645510
he was a nightmare until I realized that his hitbox is not actually as tall as it seems and you can simply jump over him without having to rely on wall jump or pogo. Got him first try afterwards.
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Without spoiling too much shit, how do i make sure to get all endings in a single save?
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>>720646218
Ah, not like that. As in hornet the character shouldn't be so accomodating. The quest has cool rewards for the player so you'd absolutely want to do it.
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>>720646460
Only one you can miss is being parasitically impregnated and beating the end boss of act 2 without curing it (you cannot get this one again if you cure the parasite)
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Ok, this beginning of act 3 gauntlet is bullshit
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dude bro I hated this encounter so fucking much
I just cheesed it by spamming lifeblood and rollerblades
btw, is the wormways weavenest really just the skill pickup? not even an artefact? I liked the little puzzle for the far fields nest, but I couldn't find jack in Karin.
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>>720646461
No, there's another movement ability in Act 3
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Ahem
SEX WITH SHAKRA
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>>720643482
>missed out on the most kino of the three songs because you're a retard
Genuinely made me sad when you come back at the start of act 3 and everything's destroyed.
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>>720645308
The first shrine->cog core set of big hallways with the giant enemies that drop a lot of rosaries each assuming you can kill em reliably. If you got the thief charm they drop about 55 each and a bench/chair is close
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>>720646131
Good King Wenceslas, it's a traditional Christmas song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-b4bo4YOvQ
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>>720642224
how do you get into this area?
is it another one of those steel soul exclusive spots on the map?
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>>720646556
there was a gauntlet at the beginning of act 3?
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>>720646436
>>720646007
Weirdly I found that Silksong spends very little time elaborating on Grand Mother Silk, compared to the first game's Pale King, Hollow Knight and Radiance. It just kind of comes off as though Granny was just there, stuff happened, and a pissed off daughter ruins everything.
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>>720646395
Hallway full of minibosses near songclave or the hallway full of minibosses in the whiteward, you can get like 150 rosaries in a minute or two then reset to bench
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i wonder how much i can use this until i completely break my game, but god damn it's useful
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>>720646542
Can you not technically miss the normal act 2 end as well if you meet the requirements and choose the wrong option? Unlikely to happen but seems possible
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So do we have a guide for the amount of memory lockets/crests to unlock each Eva upgrade? Is ot possible to get hunter 3 before act 3 or are you caped at just the second free slot for blues?
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best spot to farm these little shits, pokedexbros?
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Beast crest enjoyer, tell me your secrets
I can see the vision behind it but I can't quite grasp how to make it work in practice
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>>720646660
isn't there something act 3 exclusive in bellhart? maybe it's that
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>>720646572
I was so mad I forgot to mention that Sherma canonically owes Hornet sex after all the goddamn trouble she went through to keep his ass safe.
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If base silksong is this hard what the fuck are the dlc gonna be?
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>>720646664
>Granny was just there, stuff happened, and a pissed off daughter ruins everything.
thats it
thats the story
they probably tried rewriting it so much in the 7 years they just decided to scrap everything more complex
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>>720646660
Might be a silksoar place, dunno

>>720646678
Yeah, you could do that if you choose to engage the trap
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qrd on sinnners road?
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Just finished the game until the true ending, 100% (said by the game).
I played the first game a long time ago but I didn't do the expanded stuff or whatnot. Only did the story things. So basically I really forgot hot to play the game.
The game was hard at the beginning for me. I think it was the Sister Splinter thing and the Widow that really put me on edge. Doesn't help that the flying enemies were ANNOYING as fuck bobbing and weaving their flaps all over. Also the hitbox range of the needles were short.
But after around Widow I felt that the bosses really weren't that hard? I thought that if I just stopped and actually looked what they were doing, it was going to be easier that I believed. Don't get me wrong I still died a lot against bosses. But I wasn't getting frustrated anymore compared to the ones I mentioned. Also helps that by act 2 I got a lot upgrades and also better movement so it felt "freer" in a sense.
By the end I really thought the game was not that hard. Except for goddamn Bilewater holy shit that was brutal. I was so mad after sitting on the fake chair.

Anyway did the team say what's next. Are people expecting a DLC? I really don't play DLCs or expansion for story games though.
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>>720646542
>being parasitically impregnated
h-hot
how?
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>>720646073
damn, i would never have thought of that, thanks
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>>720646754
its pretty fun if you dont go there too early, kind of like hunters march
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>>720646690
Hunter 3 requires 15, final reward 18, you can get both before Act 3.
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DUDE THEY NEVER FUCKING DIE WHY DOES EVERY BOSS IN THIS SHIT GAME HAVE SO MUCH FUCKING HP???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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>>720646754
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>>720646227
The fact people were malding about moorwing and the random plant boss I oneshot should have tipped everyone off that the difficulty complaints are coming from retards.
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>DLC
what makes you faggots think there's gonna be any?
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>>720646662
yeah where you're forced to use the hunter crest with no tools
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>>720646867
they said so
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>>720646749
What exactly brought the downfall of Pharloom, before Hornet's arrival? Seemed like they were doing experiments and shit in Citadel, but what was actually happening to cause those desperate measures?
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>>720646867
they confirmed it in one of the interviews or something
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>>720646867
devs need to pay bills and put food in the fridge and DLC is garanteed billion sales
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>>720646754
cancer aids zone
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>>720646728
>Sherma canonically owes Hornet sex after all the goddamn trouble she went through to keep his ass safe.
Not how it works, he's getting rewarded twice for doing nothing but a victim. He owes her anal beads for opening that gate though,
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>>720646792
The alien dudes quest
Beware its a pretty bad parasite and you probably dont want to be playing too much of the game with it, so maybe avoid that quest until your ready to try getting the ending for it
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>>720646853
Sprint attack the baton twirling cuck
That's it. Ignore the flying faggot til he's dead.
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>>720646741
Most likely it was dumb idea to play game on release. I bet few patches later everything will be nerfed/fixed/rebalanced. Even shard bullshit.
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Why does this sound like such a Jojo reference?
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>>720646928
lack of wyrm dickings
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>two voided threadrakers in a small arena
STOOOOOOOOP
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>>720646867
>So, we've decided to turn the Lace DLC into it's own game...
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>>720645928
Its plot based. You'll know when to go back
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>>720646943
All HK DLCs were free updates.
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I actually want to vomit right now.
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>>720646928
>desperate measures
The desire for progress is no desperate measure
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>>720647003
It is Jojo reference
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>>720646664
When I first played Hollow Knight my understanding of the story was
>Dreams imprison an infected nigger
>The infection escapes
>break the dreams and kill the infected nigger
>take his place

It's only with the gift of hindsight and a LOT of people discussing the lore that it's slowly come to form a cohesive narrative in my mind. I kind of just assume the same is true of Silksong, and that we'll have to wait a year for the autists to make their 45 minute video essays on the chronology and history of Pharloom for the actual plot to make any fucking sense.
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>>720646690
I don't know the exact amount needed but I got it before act 3
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>>720647040
this is unironically the hardest boss in the game. good job.
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>>720646853
Elden Ring has buckbroken devs and players into thinking that HP bloat is good game design.
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>>720646792
>h-hot
Very.
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>>720647040
Enjoy your absolute shit stain of a crest as a reward!
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>>720646853
>WHY DOES EVERY BOSS IN THIS SHIT GAME HAVE SO MUCH FUCKING HP
Because you are a retard and you are trying to do an Only Nail run.
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did people really get angry at TC for releasing the game too soon after the announcement and making it too cheap?
why is this industry so full of whiny bitches?
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>>720647003
>guy whose only seen jojo
>mm yeah getting real jojo vibes from this
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>>720647152
Real life is a jojo reference actually.
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>>720647107
Damn I hadnt actually seen the ending for that yet
Another thing to add to the list of H-scenarios in Silksong
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>>720646749
It seems like the silk was being used to create immortality, wasn't it? I'm not understanding much but it seems to me like silk = life force, silk can be farmed to produce immortality, and a hierarchy has emerged where the wealthy elite become immortal by hoarding silk for themselves while everything else withers and dies from the lack of life force.

It's basically Sekiro's plot except it's only the monks and the rejuvenating waters, there is no Heir.
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>>720647065
I feel like Silksong's overall plot is easier to follow along, simply because Hornet chimes in with her "oh I know because I'm a weaver and shieeet" replies every so often, but the background details are skimmed over in random lore bits. Like everything you do in the game is given clear enough context, but ol' Granny I dunno why she is the way she is.
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Gally if she bug
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>>720647128
Yes, ResetEra even started arguing it was fascistic
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>There's a weaver web map of paths out of Pharloom founding in one of the weaver nests
>There otherside of the room leads to the windy wilds
So there are other weavers out there somewhere
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>>720646695
you dont have to bench to respawn them, just leave the room. so any room with at least one of these guys should be easy enough
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>>720644084
people wnat to play metroidvania at the end of the day mate
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>>720647152
Jojo is inferential beyond the mortal world.
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>>720646840
>>720647078
So how does the game measure it? Memory slots or slots period? Ao say a crest comes with 3 slots, does it contribute 3 slots to the count?
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In response to allegations that she raped and killed a pilgrim, possibly in that order, Ms. Hornet responded only with "GUARANA!"
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>>720647128
Kike drones upset people can criticize their favourite triple A devs for charging 70$ for games worse and shorter than an indie title that costs 20$
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>>720646958
>He owes her anal beads for opening that gate though,
pay attention, the door opened because it heard his singing
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>>720647128
victim mentality and scarcity mindset
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>>720646853
Use silk meter
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When I was a kid playing Super Metroid I didn't know what a boss moveset was and just tanked ridley until he died.
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>>720646664
The Pale King was the central point in HK's lore, but GMS is just a creation of the central point in SS' lore (the weavers).
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okay i just got all three melodies and got on the elevator, the game feels really limited on charms compared to the first, is it meant to be like that?
i feel like you just have some tools and you just use those sometimes when fighting
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>>720647318
It's the amount of lockets you spent.
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>>720647318
it counts number of used memory lockets.
I went through most of the game with them sitting in my inventory and didn't know about the upgrades for a loooooong time.
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>>720647442
i dont remember a thing about yoshis island but i think i beat it
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is freeing the green prince worth 500 shekels
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>>720647275
pics or links?
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>>720647109
Wait, i can no longer heal but instead damage enemies for health regen and my jump attack is completely different now?
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In an attempt to be subversive Team Cherry have failed to include an adequate amount of shaws and edinos
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Tried all the Crests, Hunter is still my favorite.
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Thoughts?
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>>720647507
No
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>parry focused wanderer build
>combo focused hunter build
I'm such a fucking gamer. I need a healing focused witch build
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>>720647128
Modern indie scene is full of faggots and cunts who think they deserve to get rich for releasing a $40 walking simulator about depression.
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Hornet is great but i want to SHA and ADILO.
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>>720646436
>I still like the way the pilgrimage and tribute was developed and played out, but a lot of the core elements were things we already knew about, so there's less to unveil.
I just wish there was sort of an answer on where all these fuckers are coming from to do this pilgrimage. Are they all from cities outside Pharloom and this is like Rome or Mecca? Because there's fucking nothing in game we see but the place is lousy with all these unnamed extras that die on the way to the top and they're still actively filtering in.
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>>720647446
Pretty much
Something something pursue of immortality bad, but all I really want to know is how did GMS go ultra void mode due to Lace's shenanigans? I know she was basically doing it for Lace's sake, but how did she muster that power, when Radiance for all we know is dead and buried in the void too?
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>>720644176
Only to get hyper aggressive and chase you to the ends of the earth all of a sudden when you try to run past them.
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>>720647109
the movesets fun atleast
maybe itll be good in radiant where heals dont matter
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I pirated the game at launch, it is true about a patch making boss fights easier? grim
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>>720647574
I think the blue hp buff deserves to be in OP. 6 extra hp is pretty fucking good
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>>720647065
>>720647248
Hornet seems to imply she knew from the getgo what was at the heart of thw haunting, since pale brings can sort of sense each other.
Pharloom was less about deciphring the story and more seeing with your own eyes the damage done. Areas like Bilewater and Putefried Ducts are for that purpose.
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>>720647025
>ffw 7 years
>Hollow Knight Silksong Lace's Lullaby releases
>exactly 33% bigger than Silksong
>hard as balls
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>>720642224
I never cheesed any Hollow Knight bosses but I find myself doing it more and more often in Silksong. Some of these bosses really just have AIDS design. You know how Grey Prince Zote had this really annoying habit of not actually hurting you with proper attacks but instead unpredictably lunging into your direction and doing heavy contact damage? It feels like half of Silksong bosses are built on this philosophy.

Lace 2 and Phantom are really fun though.
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>>720647574
Longpin is pretty alright in some mob arena fights, because it can pierce and fly through multiple targets. Made those two big guys in the High halls arena fight easier.
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>>720647697
Only 2 early game bosses
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>>720647128
If I were an indie dev planning to release a similarly priced game and the most wishlisted game on steam decided to just shadowdrop in the same timeframe I would've been fucking pissed as well.
Since I'm not, and have no interest in any of the games that got fucked over, all I can say is lol, lmao
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>>720646146
I had shakra help me with that section
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i just started the second lace fight, and wow she's really hard, this feels like the first boss fight that's gonna take me some time.
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>>720646928
If I remember right something like:
>GMS has a serious mommy fetish
>Makes the weaver race
>They arent "good enough" but whatever. Keep trying at making the perfect baby (Phantom for example and eventually Lace being the perfect one)
>Weavers are kind of assholes and want to rule. Enact a plot to put GMS for a stasis nap
>Works for awhile and Weavers lord over Pharloom and do their autistic crafting shit
>GMS nap time doesnt fully stick and after awhile she influences Pharloom via silk since she is the origin of it (think like a nerfed Radiance)
>Things go to shit between that and Weavers jobbing.
>GMS wants to feed her baby Lace with weaver silk to protect her/make her stronger/keep her alive.
>Sends out minions to find anyone with weaver heritage to bring to Pharloom to use.
>Lace is sick of her crazy helicopter mommy and rebels like an angsty teenage daughter.
>Frees Hornet at the start of the game
>Cue game
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>>720647507
The pay off is incredibly late in the game.
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>>720647260
Oh wow, the forearm blades really are a reference huh
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>>720647128
People? No, not really. Journos? Sure, but only because they didn't get free pre-release copies.
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lace 3 is such a fun fight, especially with the parry
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>>720646853
BRAVO MY GRAND REWARD AFTER SMASHING MY HEAD AGAINST A WALL FOR AN HOUR
>140 shards
>a locked path
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>>720647451
>okay i just got all three melodies and got on the elevator, the game feels really limited on charms compared to the first, is it meant to be like that?
Same. I don't feel I found anything interesting or good in act 2 at all except injector. Would prefer if tools were removed and turned into charms without need to craft shards.
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>>720647574
I used Plasmium since I got it, its psychological power to keep you away from being 1 hit kill is immense, flea brew should be in situationally OP since it can be used to damage rush some stuff
middle gun is meh but if default throwing knives are in alright then it should be too
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>>720647757
I cheesed that fight. I literally just sat in the upper corner and would smack them when they'd do their jump attack. They literally cannot hit you kek.
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>>720647724
>6 extra hp
Definitely deserves it since you can OD on it with Architect and get infinitely regenerating health. Basically trivializes Bilewater since it'll even heal through worms.
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>>720647783
I found her shaking the screen and filling the arena with flying discs far more of a hindrance than a help.
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>>720647442
That's how I beat many of the bosses in act 3 Silksong. Full Masks + Druid's Eyes + Multibinder + Silk injector + Reaper crest = me healing 50+ masks a fight and refusing to wait for openings
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>>720647776
>If I were an indie dev planning to release a similarly priced game and the most wishlisted game on steam decided to just shadowdrop in the same timeframe I would've been fucking pissed as well.
Okay fair enough but maximizing your game's sales on launch is not Team Cherry's responsibility
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>>720646664
granny is only interesting as an inverse of pale king. But silksong’s story is a bit more complex than people have believed, but only just. Nowhere near as interesting as Hollow Knight’s.
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>>720647574
>fire buff item
>situationally OP
did i miss something about that thing?
it seemed to not even double your damage and last a whole total of 3 seconds, whats OP about it?
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>>720647856
You'll need to revisit there later, you'll know when
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>>720647856
You missed a Silkeater and a Memory locket, also you'll have to go through that area in act 3 and they would've been harder.
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>>720647964
Not enough Pale King getting it on in Silksong for my liking
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>>720647697
Yeah, I was intending on buying it to cheevo hunt after my first playthrough but now Im not so sure, if theyre nerfing shit in the first patch Im worried theyll keep going
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>>720647912
i heard this is a thing but is it actually worth it? what's the drawback?
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>>720647856
Is this deep docks path? Kek I used my key on wormways and it had new crest as reward. What a bullshit. There is no second key as far as I aware in act 1. You just locked yourself out of crest until act 2
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>>720647856
you should be thankful that you don't have to go there act 3
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>>720647809
>Frees Hornet at the start of the game
What evidence is there it was lace?
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>>720647856
There's some sort of charm down there as well IIRC, though I forget which one. Besides, now you can open up the backtrack paths and you won't have to fight those shitheads again when the game finally brings you here.

I don't understand when this complaint happens, I'm MORE annoyed when my reward for beating a boss is
>dead end with an item in it
I'm so fucking relieved when what's behind them is an area I can't currently complete and a backtrack path, that tells me the fact that I beat them now means I would have had to beat them later and now that task is completed.
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>>720645028
that and the confessional nearby are actually great story moment when you realize it's because they want workers to pay for the privilege of having a place to sit on
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>>720648041
The first time you get the tool, it's limited uses that you need to go refill from a specific NPC. In Act3 you get an upgrade that removes that refill via NPC requirement.
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Is verdania an act 3 area or something? I saw it on a full map someone posted here earlier but I can't find the entrance in greymoor
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>>720647912
As if architect wasnt already the most OP
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>>720647631
I can only surmise that bugs breed like, well, bugs
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>>720648130
>Is Verdania an act 3 area or something
Yes
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>>720648043
There are two keys in Act 1, aren't there? Sinner's Road is technically accessible in Act 1, as it's the alternate way of reaching Act 2.
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>>720648130
Needs correction
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>>720647647
Genuine act of motherly love vs selfish need for control and recognition. My idealistic take anyway.
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what to do now?
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>>720647248
granny’s just a force of nature. All higher beings are. Though I kinda thought pale beings would be more down to earth, because of pale king shedding his larger form and white lady actually talking to people. But maybe they’re just anomalies.
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>>720648130
Yeah. You need an act3 needolin ability to truly explore it.
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>>720648130
>old hag
>The voice line Sharka uses when you talk to her is "BBA"
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>>720648041
You lose it when you sit on a bench or die, but that's about it.
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>>720648160
explore the room more
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>>720647647
Unironically the power of (extremely autistic) motherly love
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>>720648160
find the secret to activate the bench and clench your ass hoping you make it
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>>720648160
There's a hidden wall top left
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>>720647283
where?
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>>720646664
I think that it is pretty clearly implied if not outright stated that Silk basically did what Pale King did, as in she supplanted the civilization that already existed in the region, either trough conquest or just subdueing them, and focused the society she then built on worship of herself, and her "children" the weavers, who eventually rebelled because they didn't want to be under the thrall of Silk. Which in turn caused Silk to become even more of a control freak, haunt her entire kingdom with her threads so that nobody could rebel against her again, and create her artificial children in the form of Lace and Phantom. Where she differs from Pale King is that she didn't have a rival god being fight against her as successfully as Radiance did to the Pale King.
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>>720647539
You got it sweet cheeks

>>720647672
Fun doesn't apply in this game when it's a goddamn labor to try and hit some of the more mobile people. And that new pogo attack is absolutely useless for traversal. Sure once you get claw line you can probably look past it but the entire thing is a waste of energy in my eyes at this point.
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>get cool shaman crest right at the end of the game when it would have been neat to play the whole game through that way
many such cases...
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>>720648151
>as it's the alternate way of reaching Act 2.
What? How? I did explore it in Act 1. Slave bug is dead end. Another path requires double jump.
What else is here?
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would it have fucking killed the devs to make bosses at least drop rosary beads? I'm fucking losing my mind over this shit. 90% of the bosses drop NOTHING and you don't even get a reward in nearby rooms after killing them.
its infuriating to smash you head against these fucking bloated HP abominations for dozens of tries just to get nothing.
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>>720648271
>>720648238
I fucking got killed, this fucking sucks, my last save was on the citadel
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weakest pharloom bug would be a endgame boss in hollownest.
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>>720648280
In the far field weaver nest once you do the running speed thing with the speed increased powerup and flea brew
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>>720647574
>Longpin useless
Thing is a godsend against the last judge. It can penetrate her whirling attack and I can't prove it but I swear that when you pair it with the poison it creates a lingering damage zone
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you shouldn't have to farm anything in a single player game
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>>720648334
Achievements :)
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>>720648079
She's associated with / guides the white butterflies. The seal on the cage broke when a white butterfly interacted with it.
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I'm late act 2, I think I only have 1 last boss and 2 fleas left. My only criticism right now is how many bosses have 3 waves of boring enemies before they spawn. It makes learning them a drag.
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Is there a map I can find for flea finding? I remember the Collector's map in HK for grubs but I can't find this here.
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>>720646749
It felt like they wanted to go in more of a Bloodborne direction with the depiction of spiders being evolved into weavers by a higher being and silk = the old blood. Plus the visual depiction of their headers seemingly being partially exploded by forbidden cosmic knowledge.
But then it sort of takes a turn into this different story about a religion turning to clockwork automatons in order to keep their dying religious society shuffling on a little longer and while that was sort of interesting commentary from the writers it didn't provide much more to the narrative besides cool visuals.
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>>720647647
Radiance was just a stupid fuck while GMS has the power of motherly love (and really cute daughter to boost it).
You see other positive "mother and daughter" moments in the game (Shakra and her master, Hornet and the weavers), so I assume this is the game's main theme.
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>>720648405
yes
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>>720648405
Its there costs money this time though
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>>720648372
>I swear that when you pair it with the poison it creates a lingering damage zone
Poison just gives enemies a poison status, which is visualized by purple puff clouds around the affected enemies. Seems to be just a damage tick or two over time.
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>>720648334
>just to get nothing
You get the satisfaction of victory and the experience that taught you how to do it
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>>720648334
This is 7 years long humiliation ritual chud.
Who cares about silly rosaries you need for shitty shards? The fight itself is reward )))))
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7 years my fucking ass. How shit like Savage Beastfly 2 went past testing is beyong me. Are TC fucking subhuman dumb nigger retards?

Yes, it's very fucking fun when it flies off screen and you have no idea how high it will charge and it's pure fucking guesswork. Fucking retarded subhumans i hope they fucking choke on a chicken wing.
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>>720648447
>the power of motherly love
so still just a stupid fuck
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So which endign of hollow knight was the canon one?
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>>720648506
>testing
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>>720648506
Just do it later and you can spend the entire fight in the air, it's awesome
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>>720648549
Either one where Radiance got his ass beat.
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>>720648549
all of them godhome
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>>720648549
Either Dream No More or Embrace the Void with leaning toward ETV
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>>720647724
Architect aside it's at best 3 extra hits if your tool pouch is maxed and refilling it is a pain until act 3.

>>720647757
Sure, but so can the boomerang while dealing more damage and being better for flier, and by that point you likely have tacks/conchcutter/sawblade which deals with the big guys even better.

>>720647871
I considered the flea brew placement but needing to refill it by visiting the fleas who are always far away from a fast travel point made me drop it down.
I think the other guns deserve to be down there since grabbing them means you don't get the best gun, and the basic bitch pins are in alright because you can get decent use out of them until you get better ranged tools, they don't carry but they have their use.

>>720647970
If you use Wanderer and the boss is slow enough that you can wail on them a bit, the fire buff wrecks them, also works if you can time it properly and use it right before the boss gets staggered.
Plus it heats you up in Mount Fay, that's pretty handy.

>>720648372
The tacks, boomerang and sting shards wreck the judge just as well while dealing more damage.
I tested the poison thing right now and it works like every other poison tool.
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Did I got filter or traveling the map in this game is a fucking slog?
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>>720646741
Godhome but all bosses are void raged
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>>720648549
The Godhome one.
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never mind i take it back, that was way too fucking easy.>>720647784

i felt like i was just dodging her 2nd and third half without trying, it felt like the fight got easier to just avoid her.
like the first partfelt the hardest.
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>>720648549
godhome
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Any fuckeble bees in hollow knight/silksong?
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>>720648609
I think you got filtered all the way back in English school buddy
The fast travel points and general exploration is a bit annoying in this one however
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>>720648712
Unfortunately no, unless you're gay
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>>720648712
the bouncy ones that can break platforms in HK
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>>720648712
>hollow knight
yeah
>silksong
no, theres an ant though
>>720648761
the queen is pretty fuckable
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>>720648712
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jrrOkMhMoc
And to answer your question no, there's not a single bee in Pharloom.
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Continue through the mist or finish sinner's road?
why the fuck was this area behind a breakable wall
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>>720648447
weavers were a positive model? They wanted hornet to supplant grandma and were pressuring her like they had always done since she was born
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>>720648324
You can navigate almost all of Sinner's Road without the double jump. The only part that requires it is the Embarrassing Stromboli boss fight in the lower right.

You can find the Simple Key in the top of the column above where the Silkeater creating NPC is
Left of that area is a secret entrance to Bilewater, which can be used to access The Mist|
There's also an even more secret area in the upper left corner of the map with a well-hidden breakable wall, which lets you access The Mist directly without reaching Bilewater; faster, but you don't have a bench near The Mist you can use for retries if you go the non-Bilewater route
Beating the Mist leads you into the Steam Organ, and the boss fight with Phantom, which grants you access to the Underworks, completing Act 1 while skipping Last Judge
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>>720648798
>this video may be age restricted
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What are extra mossberries used for after the druid's errand
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>>720648712
Vespa and Hive Knight are the only bees that are actual characters that I remember
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The more I play of act 3 the less I enjoy it.
>only one movement upgrade
>the only things to find are boss fights and the last few health upgrades you missed
I'm pretty sure you can get every flea in act 2. Hollow Knight suffered a bit from this since you had to get a certain amount of essence to unlock the true dream nail, but less so because the game wasn't split up into acts and the bosses weren't all locked behind something that you do after you've explored 80% of the map.
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>>720642224
What is the purple robo bug you got?
I want one.
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>>720648837
>spoiler
because mist is an alternate way into citadel
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>>720648837
Mist is a subarea, won't take long to explore.
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>>720648837
Continue through the mist
Dont be dong like me and put it off Youll miss out on a kino boss fight thats way to easy later
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>two clawline hooks in the middle of far fields
>they don't unlock any secret point or anything, they have no purpose
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>>720648914
so is there anything cool in the mist? any hidden skill or anything?
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>>720648956
Lore related boss fight
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>>720648871
if I remember right he just gives you some rosaries for them
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The whole green prince area reminds me of psychonauts because you're breaking into his head to see what makes him tick and all that.
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>>720648871
Rosaries and if you get them all he upgrades the charm he gave you.
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>>720648506
It also always slightly nudges towards you so even if you think you dodged it, you didn't. Assholish retarded design. They probably took Hackyazaki school of game development and made their game as shitty as nu-Soulsshit games.
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>>720648956
There is nothing in the Mist itself, only beyond it.
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>>720648956
Only the best spell in the game.
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>>720648894
You need double jump and craft ore for this. It's act 2 main quest road.
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>>720648837
Controversial take:
Don't go through the Mist. Go back to Sinner's road, finish exploring, and find the other secret exit. That's a more roundabout way of also reaching The Mist, from the other side, but doing so gives you a bench near the entrance to The Mist which you will likely appreciate
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>>720648871
He gives you rosaries for them, and eventually upgrades the tool he gave you
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>>720648880
Would
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>>720649007
and all the gay porn and gay sex i like homosex like psychoastronaughts mmmm yeah anal with the train in the thoughs and sheep do no reproduce without the uvula thats how the ants make it in this world this hat is what you need to get by (brother) thats what makes me TICK! like the game that i played yesterdar [hollow knightL silksong{ its about this waterfowel dance from Elden Ring is the equivalent of two straight men forced to have homosexual interactions by a woman with sadomasochistic qualities then they shoot eachother and red dead redemption with the cw in Massachusetts its legal to marry your daughter to the highest bidder then when the sun sings it will the
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>>720648572
too long and the adds get aids
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>>720648887
check wormway
also sand of karak also has a short extra section
the most right part of greymoor also has something
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>>720647647
Radiance had no physical presence to protect itsself, the knight beat the Infection and the Hollow Knight.
GMS can create unthinkable amounts of silk to keep herself and Lace alive. Its only temporary and will last long enough to suck all of pharloom into the void, which why Hornet has to dive down there and finish her off.
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>>720647260
>hornet canonically has a horse in the STR vs DEX debate
I mean I guess her whole kit is about DEXfagging but this seems beneath her
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>>720649286
>why Hornet has to dive down there and finish her off.
but why is she beating the daughter instead of the granny
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>>720647260
The game is filled with references to other media, anime, games, books. Some people just refuse to see it though. I mean, seriously, creature that sends out its tongue to grab prey and pulls it up to a waiting mouth that pops out and its called Barnakl? The people that thought this wasn't a Half Life reference are actually insane.
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>>720649210
Yeah I get it now
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>all these flying enemies
what were they thinking
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>>720649413
>this shits gonna be hilarious
>lol
>lmao
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>>720649413
>surely our players won't be retarded and refuse to use tools, the ultra-busted clawline or the silk skills
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38 sec
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>>720647574
>The glock is useless
W-what the fuck is wrong with you
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>>720649015
I assume the last one will be in that mossy area of the citadel I need doublejump to get to. Kinda gay that you need a lategame ability to upgrade an earlygame charm that will probably still suck afterward.
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>>720649262
>go collect 10 bear asses
>fight more bosses
>go through an area to fight more bosses
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>>720649448
>and when the player presses jump it moves away before the jump even starts
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>>720649505
nta but I do kinda hate how modern games expect you to use 10 different buttons for different gadgets alongside your normal default attack
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>>720649413
better enemies than what beat 'em ups have, apparently
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>>720649551
There are grosser stuff in the game what did they do to her...
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>>720649626
>Arrow keys
>Z, X, maybe C
Any more is too much
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>>720649413
I don't mind them except for the fact that they have too much hp, even the tiny ass craws take way too many hits and they aren't even hard, just a test of patience.
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why was grand mother silk abducting weaver descendent bugs anyway? was it spite? was it to suck their silk out?
why was pharloom even falling to ruin when we got there? there was no outside force like in hollowknight fucking everything up, was it just grand mother being a retard? did things go to shit because the weavers left, and they started to run out of silk to keep everything working? if they were running out of silk, it explains why they would abduct bugs that can make silk. it sort of explains why lace was created too, probably trying to make a new to way to create silk that didnt work out. make new weavers, to make new silk. if every source of silk came from grand mother I guess that slowly started to lead to bad things? they state at one point that every single pilgrim is descendant from a bug that got the silk implanted from whiteward, and they all have silk in them that draws them to pharloom. why cant their silk be used? or is it being used, evident by the huge pile of corpses you find in whiteward? they clearly need to preserve the silk, there's guys in greyloom with silk catchers, trying to get every last scrap of the stuff that falls out of the citadel. but what is it used for? to send out more strands to mind control more bugs? we dont see it used for much else. are the robots powered by silk, I cant remember if the lore said anything like that.
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>>720649324
It is kind of funny that Str vs Dex only really applies to the bug world anyway. Most of the time bugs can actually win just by being faster, because most Chitin can't stand up to the piercing power of sharpened fangs and there is always gaps that a flexible stinger can get in. Most bugs that are that big and strong are also very slow, as they have to be to conserve energy. So a very fast bug that uses venom to do the work only needs that one good hit and then get out. Once you start to increase scale, strength not only starts to outpace dexterity, but higher levels of strength actually causes you to be faster anyway. The only thing you lose with large muscles is flexibility and there are ways to work around that.
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>raging conchfly
This is beyond retarded.
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>>720649652
Ive never understood the appeal of beat 'em ups
Theyre just kiting for the most part right? Like Don't Starve tier combat?
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>>720649551
>Hornet gets captured and becomes a fly warden broodmother
Not gonna lie, imagining Hornet only wearing the broodmother neck brace and crown while being forced to pump out live fly babies sounds pretty hot.
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So why are there so many mean things in Silksong? I don't mean hard fights but just mean stuff like Lost Judge blowing up (I didn't fall for it but I can also understand the position that all the bosses in HK and SS "explode" when they die but don't damage the player), Hunter's March bench trap (it has a small reaction window and I luckily dodged it, but I can absolutely see players who drop the controller in relief after sitting down and dying), Bilewater bench breaking etc. Like those are specifically designed to be cheap gotcha moments and have no reason to exist other than to be mean to the player. Even the weapon upgrades, which are more helpful to bad players, are locked behind an annoying fetch quest and finding all the fleas and winning their bullshit mini games.

Maybe I'm not remembering but I don't recall HK being this mean to the player. What gives?
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>>720647243

Yea pretty much. Silk is kinda symbolic for life in this game, which is the reason why all the main characters in it are female, since this is not the first time when life is represented as a thread. As you can see, the characters are also specifically female. Very ancient symbology.
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>>720649574
nigger that is like 20% left of the game you are not going to find another choral chamber
the game is fucking big enough anyway
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So I guess I'm missing a double jump or something to 100% this area right? I'll go to the mist then... t-t-thanks
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>hnnnnnnnGGG AAAAAAAHHH!!!!
Huge EroGuro potential.
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>>720649413
>Get to the citadel
>Flying enemies with counterattacks
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>>720649792
they listened to steelsoul tryhards
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>>720649773
i beat him first try whats the problem
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>>720649776
Can vary a bit depending on the encounter or game in question. Sometimes you gotta kite enemies, sometimes you group them up, other times you might have to think on the fly.
Generally the issue is that it can be hard to understand the nuance and positives of a beat 'em up unless you're more familiar with the genre. For some it's just fun enough button mashing (credit feeding or game overs be damned), while others go at them with the single credit clear mentality.
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>>720649737
Calm down your tits anon.
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>>720644210
architect is for shitter bosses like gauntlet battles
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>second twin boss
I'm sorry but what am I even supposed to do. Can't git gud because nothing works.
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>>720649978
I have questions that need answers
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>>720649792
they listened to me
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>>720649737
grandma ruled and filled the egos of the weavers she uplifted. Weavers found out they aren’t her true daughters and were uplifted from mindless beasts. They got mad and created the citadel to lock her up and become the new rulers. Some stuff happens afterwards that caused the weavers to leave that I’m still trying to understand. I have no idea when lace fits into the timeline, but the weavers are being harvested for Lace.
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>>720649792
The bench traps all fit the areas you find them in
>Hunter's march is already filled with traps because the ants want to keep outsiders away,
>The jammed bench in Sinner's Road is because these guys are basically degenrate outcasts who haven't maintained anything and let it turn to rusted sludgy shit
>As above with bileways but even worse, the entire area is toxic swampland because of the citadel dumping waste
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>>720649804
And what I'm saying is the game splits the content between the acts poorly.
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>>720649792
because those are some of the most memorable moments in the game and everyone is talking about them
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are there any points in the game that lock you out of 100%?
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>>720649993
>second twin boss
?
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>Defeated Groal
>Delivered Rasher
>Stuck at Unravelled
How did this happen?
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>>720649951
The fact that your parents decided to have children
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>>720649854
You'll be glad you couldn't get there this early.
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>>720650097
You fight 2 drill bosses in Blasted Steps. Later you meet a survivor again.
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>>720649854
you don't need double jump in the room you're at
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>>720650153
oh that guy, i think i spammed cogflies at him
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>>720650096
No, there are contingencies that allow you to still get something if you don't find it the first time
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>>720647647
The difference was the Radiance at that point was only a dream. There was no place physically for Radiance to go, once the void consumed the dreamscape. The very IDEA of the Radiance was consumed. Mother Silk was thrown physically into the void and we know that bugs can escape it and their resistance to it depends on their strength.
>But GMS got beat down by Hornet, she's weak
I'm fairly sure that the plan was to lose to Hornet on purpose, making it just enough of a contest that Hornet would see no other choice but to try to Bind Silk to herself. Silk is a god and gods are not so easily killed as we see with Radiance. Silk probably wanted to take Hornet's body, which with her godly power would have been an upgrade in her capability. A child of Weaver and Wyrm, ascended to pure God hood, no way she wouldn't have been able to produce endless amounts of silk for Lace.
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>>720649792
Excellent streamer reaction clip moments. Think of the mileage gotten out of the kite attacker in Sekiro. It’s a marketing trick.
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>courier delivery to mount fay
bro fuck that, I don't need to do this to unlock act 3 right? I've been doing basically everything to make sure I get it without looking up a guide but I'm not doing that shit unless I absolutely have to
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>>720650223
>I'm fairly sure that the plan was to lose to Hornet on purpose
?
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>>720650223
Silk is a Higher Being, not a god.
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>>720650213
Are there things which are missable but don’t count toward 100%? I’ve heard the Shakra fight is missable.
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>>720650312
If you get killed by your enemies, you win
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>>720650265
It's just money and a couple lines of dialogue.
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>Enter Memorium
>my gamer sense is tingling
>this is the dedicated bestiary entry farming area
>because in the late game the state of the game world must change permanently, making farming those enemies normally impossible
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>>720650265
I don't think so, but I did it anyway and it's really not too bad now that you have double jump and no time limit
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>>720650335
what's the difference
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>>720650040
ah right the conductor in high halls talks about ruling the citadel.
so the cocoon we see, grandmother silk is actually trapped inside there? that was her prison built by the weavers? her strands leaking out, I guess are her slowly breaking out of the prison then? she's ruling from a cell through the bars? if she was locked up how did she create lace?
did the weavers betray her when she made lace, that would tie in to them finding out they werent daughters of grand mother, evidence being grand mother creating her own daughter.
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>>720650383
It's a bestiary farming area, yes, but not for that reason.
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>>720650336
Yeah, I don't know them all though
Shakra and Garmond's journal entries can be missed if they aren't done in act 2
There's other small things like the dice player or the bonebottom pilgrim surviving but these don't really do a whole lot
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>>720650121
It's one of the lazy
>I charge in your direction for 2 masks of contact damage
boss fights. Half of the bosses in this game do it. No real strategy, just get your 1-2 hits in then jump over him for five minutes.
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>>720650415
>vtuber reaction
do "people" really
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>>720649737
My intererpretation was that she wanted weaver descendants in order to somehow help/improve upon Lace, make her less fragile. Mostly because of the dream diealogue you get once you defeat lace the second time. As for Pharloom falling to ruin, I don't think it was necessarily "ruined" from the point of view of Silk. She controlled everything, either trough her threads, or trough the cogwork machines that ran her eternal citadel just fine. I interpeted her motivations as that once the weaver rebelled and fled her reach, she went full on control freak and assumed direct control of all of the bugs in her domain, hence the "haunting" so that nobody could rebel against her again. The pilgrims still arriving to the Citadel were more or less just fresh bodies to be absorbed into her forces as she took control of them via her threads.

Simply put, from Silk's point of view, shit was going just fine until Hornet arrived and managed to escape and start to ruin the nicely tuned and controlled empire she had built. What the bugs of Pharloom perceived as the "haunting" was entirely on purpose by Silk, and by design. She didn't want her subjects to have any autonomy after her "daughters" betrayed her by rebelling & fleeing.
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>>720650447
yeah that makes sense
Yeah Silk is trapoed and asleep. Since the weavers or conductors started those weird ass experiments with silk immortality, that gave Silk a chance to regain some power. Honestly Silk is like a combination of Radiance and Pale king
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>>720649949
>>720650012
That explains the much harder difficulty overall, but not the explicit mean stuff.

>>720650089
That's a very artificial way to create a memorable moment then, because in the case of Lost Judge a skilled player will die to it once, not care at all and just fight it again. A bad player will struggle to beat her, then die to a mean gotcha and will obviously feel very discouraged. Meanwhile I can listen to the soundtrack and still visualise the fights with Karmelita, Widow, Cogwork Dancers, Lace etc.

>>720650056
This is simply lore cope and doesn't explain the developer intention. Why aren't all benches in bilewater fucked then? Most of pharloom is in decay and pilgrims are poor so if that's the case it's surprising most of the bench mechanisms work at all.

>>720650249
This is the conclusion I'm reaching as well. It's a one off thing that will upset a player once and farm a lot of reactions whenever a streamer falls for one.
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>>720646221
yeee
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>>720643124
don't worry magma bell will save you
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>>720650652
>lore cope and doesn't explain the developer intention
That is precisely the intention. That's the way this game and it's prequel were designed
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>>720650293
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>>720646676
You literally get a teleport in act 3 so stop being a pathetic faggot
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>>720650719
The only bench that was trapped in HK was the one in the spider village and it's a way to get into the area where the dreamer is
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>>720650447
>>720650628
Where is it ever stated that Silk was trapped by the Weavers?
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>>720650056
how do the ants know that a bench is a savepoint
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>lmao
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>>720649737
GMS whole deal is that she basically has a mommy fetish and is a turbo helicopter parent. She uplifted the Weavers as her first surrogate children but the Weavers got pissy when they found out the truth (along with just being dicks based on mask maker dialogue) and locked her away to take over. Then things just sorta fell apart after awhile or they fucked off to other places. This betrayal caused GMS to sperg out even harder and she tried to make new children directly from silk (the wraiths) and later silk+void (Phantom and Lace) to replace them. She ended up using them as enforcers and still longed for her old weaver 'kids' to come back to her kingdom which she sought to rule forever through silk. She kidnaps those with weaver heritage to bring to her kingdom / to have them potentially become her heir.

She loves being a mom but is a shit abusive one even if she does genuinely care in her own way.
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>>720648014
>>720648064
Youre telling me i missed a voided forebrothers fight because i killed them in act 2?
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>>720650914
one of them saw a bug sitting on a bench while going out on a sugar expedition
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>>720648304
Really hoping we get a NG+ so we can use all the crests at the start. I know we have to have the silk spear ability to clear paths in Moss Grotto and the Bell Beast, but surely they could just make those paths open for a NG+
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>>720650910
Mask Maker pretty much says it explicitly
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>>720650941
This was the hardest fight in the game
And I 100%'d the game
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>>720650981
I went there in act 3 and they were pretty easy, I dont think the void makes up for all the options and power you have at that point compared to just fighting them regular in act 1
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>>720651057
Oh, I must have missed that dialogue, or just not paid enough attention to it.
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>>720651070
act 2, you need clawline to get to them
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>>720650719
I don't recall a single cheap moment like this from HK. How would Hornet walking past the bench not break the floor but sitting down is what breaks it? You can jump and hit all you want but it will only break once you sit down on it. What is the lore explanation behind that? The developer intention very obviously was to lock the player in a sitting animation so they could then drop them to a pit of maggots after they most likely struggled their way to get to the bench.
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>>720651058
Groal was slightly harder for me but I think I went there as early as you possibly can on accident
Both of them are niggers though
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>>720651058
Not as bad as raging conch or the high halls gauntlet
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>>720650948
One of the weaver artifacts makes it seem like they were fleeing from Silk though, trying to get as far away from her as possible to escape her grasp. That kind of contradicts the idea that they trapped her.
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>>720650619
even if she's in full control, she's clearly short sighted and neglecting things. there's only one architect left who can fix the cogwork machines. the vents are all broken, there's holes in the walls, dust in every corner, all the metal is tarnished. she's short sighted, running the citadel without maintenance.
>>720651057
I talk to every single npc but I miss shit like this all the time. I talk until they repeat dialogue but somehow never see lines like this.
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>>720648942
I think they are just there so you realize and associate the two bugs when you find the Pinstress in Blasted Steps.
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>>720651142
Oh right I forgot it wasnt just a simple key locking them off
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>>720651058
The first one is harder since you don't have a double jump to dodge a slightly raised dash. As long as you use tools and silk spells on the mobs it's fine.



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