>Shot enemy twice>He diesIs this good character design?
>>720649139yes. bullet sponges are bad design
>shoot enemy>they spam dodge roll and run away
>>720649597>knockdown>they seethe
>>720649139Holliday's gun sucks which is why everyone does spirit builds on her, it's bizarre to give her a headshot passive since it's worthless unless you're aimbotting.
>>720650004her gun is bad but her passive does make it halfway decent when you do land it even with no gun items so why even bother building it if its good regardless.her barrels are fucking insane tho
>>720649913>knockdown>their stun animation makes it impossible to get a headshot
>>720649139>Late game>Every enemy running around at mach speed>Cant hit a single headshotIs this good game design
>>720651693skill issue
this is the first next gen game since Titanfall 2, portal 2, and The Talos Principle
>>720649139this game feels like its gonna be impossible to get into once it actually releases because autists have been playing it for months beforehand
>>720651693if youre late game do you even need to go for headshots anymore, you should have enough items to just melt people regardless.
so when is the second map releasing?
>>720652635When Hopoo gets their Risk of Rain mode done
>>720652350As with all games with any form of matchmaking, the autists will either be placed in or quickly rise to a higher skill bracket than all the people just getting into it so they won't be interacting with each other much or at all.
>>720652350they are going to be cordoned off in the competitive mode while normal people have fun in the other modes they are planning to release with
>>720652917>matchmakingmodern online gaming was a mistake
>>720652635second map? isnt it supposed to be same 1 map only like every big moba? or are there going to be mini gamemodes like tdm and stuff
>>720653140I don't want to club seals neither do I want to be clubbed by some Korean autist
>>720653140>"I don't want to play with people better than me">okay here is a system so you won't play with people better than you>"NOOO I DON'T LIKE THAT"Make up your fucking mind
>>720651295I hate how the spastic 1 trillion different animations shift the heads so you can never land headshots, extremely frustrating.
>>720653381sweats shouldent be aloud to play at all
>>720653291There is stuff related to some kind of payload mode and yoshi confirmed that staff is working on new maps.Main map going be icetoad playground per usual.
embrace the barrel
>>720651693unironic skill issue. movement is super slow now compared to how it used to be when the game first started playtesting. play a retard character like haze or infernus instead where you can just hold m1.
>>720649139Delete this post right now.
>>720652350It's much easier to get into than other MOBAs and even hero shooters. I would argue that it's harder to start playing Overwatch now than Deadlock. They did a lot of things to make the game easier to understand while still being deep.
>>720650004her gun actually does insane damage if you max it and buy fire ratebut it only works if you basically have aimbot and always hit headshots
>>720653782infinite, easy walljumps that maintain momentum are way sweatier than the old movement, the only nerfs they've done is removing HMC and giving tank heroes 10% slower dashes
>>720653545retarded esl
>Holiday>No Moustache>Dressed like a slob>Probably not even a doctor>Woman>Tonka toy gun way too high on the hipyawn
>>720654709fuck off rileycs tranny aimbotter
>>720650004>>720650974>spirtcucks haven't embraced the end game split shot, ricochet, glass cannon, toxic bullets, siphon bullet, kinetic dash, vampire burst meat shredder that is GUN holiday.
>>720654737it's his granddaughter and her model is still a placeholder
THE TROUBADOUR AIN'T GOT SHIT ON ME
>>720655118You chose to put a chick in it, and make her lame, and gay.
>>720654416walljumps aren't infiniteHMC still exists it just doesn't retain your momentumyou don't play the game
>>720656523>erm actuallymy point was the game is not slower than it was last yearHMC as a movement technique is gone, but it barely matters when other aspects of movement have crept ahead
>>720656523>walljumps aren't infinitethey literally are you just get less and less momentum until they do basically nothing
Icefrog is making a huge mistake trying to make this game a moba AND an epic schoovement shooter at the same time, the skill barrier is just going to end up being way, way too high for your average potential customer
>>720657091>wall jumps are infinite until they aren'tr/deadlockthegameindia's brightest minds
>>720649139how do I doorman if none of my team is good?it feels like I'm a utility character that can help bully or escape lanes but beyond that if the enemy is tanky at all I'm not getting any damage out
Good character design isn’t made by known scammers who commit false advertising and fraud.Valve screwed over the Artifact fanbase by cancelling the Artifact 2.0 beta without even allowing users to invite friends like they said they would in January 2021 and does not deserve your financial support for these gross consumer-unfriendly practices.
>>720653694>payload modeLet me guess, they're doing a king of the hill as well. God I hate this industry.
>>720657751Infinite uses with diminishing returns is still infinite uses.
>>72065766799% of moba mechanics are piss easy>Push wave>Farm resources>Get Objectives>End game>RepeatEarly-Mid you're objectively playing it wrong if you teamfight since you get so little from kills and the respawn timer is low.I will be honest that trying to aim can be pure ADHD hell in the big fuck off team battles, most new players are prolly better off playing spirit.
>>720658685the feature is not practically infinite. you are being pedantic because i just raped and gaped you in a public forum and you don't know what to do. it's fine, it happens and i accept your concession.
>>720658384full gunno one builds bullet res, and with express shot you can get a disgusting amount of burst since your individual bullets have the highest base damage in the game
>>720658910im gonna try this
>>720658685NTA but learn math
>>720658982make sure to get kinetic dash since it'll effectively double your ammo with the flat +ammo buff
>>720658595What's wrong with payload? CTF is stalemale fest and stuff like 5cp takes forever or is a literal deadlock.
I only liked McGinnis so far. What other character can I play?
>>720650004Aimbotting is crazy common though.I watched a youtube guy, and he wasn't even hiding it. His tracking was genuinely insane, never got faked-out on movement, nothing.
>>720658910this was the play like, over a week ago but I've noticed that people figured out doorman has a fucked up gun and now people always run some sort of gun debuff against him so I went bell and got more use out of that
>>720658806yeah except people WANT to fight and they do and they throw the gamethe game punishes you for fighting instead of being in lane/jungle aka the ASSFAGGOTs mechanics that are too hard for the average consumer
I go to Deadlock threads on /v/ to farm impossibly bad takes that I repost on Reddit to make them seethe. Thanks for continuing to deliver, scrubs.
>>720658384two into bell then max cartecho shard cart his cart is disgustingly overpowered
>>720652508Should probably play the game before hitting that post button buddy.
>>720652508there are items to rape people with headshots
>>720658384echo shard cart with knockdown is the current hiv positive play because the item slot update made getting unstoppable much more expensive than it used to be
>>720649139>enemies shoot at me>THEY diegreat character design btw
>>720659465>What's wrong with payload? Everyone just headings to one clusterfuck spot is boring. It's also what everyone in this industry does.>CTF is stalemale fest and stuff like 5cp takes forever or is a literal deadlock.That's just it though. With deadlock you're looking at a shooter that proves that stalemates aren't some inevitability of mutual attack/defense setups. Deadlock has got to be the most ironically named game because deadlocks are precisely what valve have managed to prevent with it.
>>720663095I've seen plenty of games where jungle on both sides get cleared and people don't know what to do anymore
>>720658885>the feature is not practically infiniteBut it is literally. And it's more helpful to have how it works be explained correctly.>you are being pedantic because i just raped and gaped you in a public forum and you don't know what to do.I'm not the same anon from before dumbass.>>720659053Infinite uses with diminishing returns is still infinite uses. The fact that the returns from the uses is asymptotic in nature doesn't change the fact that the number of uses doesn't have a limit.To put another way, if the number of uses has a limit. Then what is it?
>>720663220that's because you're dealing with two teams comprised of individual agents who have different ideas about what a good play would be in a complicated game and have all decided to play it safe instead. That's not a deadlock, that's player retardation.
>check rule 34>The new characters dominate the porn + ivyAside from ivy is the old cast just that unappealing? You'd think it'd be an equal spread of porn but it's non existent
>>720665097>Aside from ivy is the old cast just that unappealing?yesnew Vindicta is nice but people aren't paying attention to her anymore after Mina and Paige, who are both wearing more revealing clothing
>>720652350Deadlock has insanely high skill cap, if the game has players you will find players who are on your level. That said some of the Doorman players even at my shit rank are already fucking insane
>>720665097Yamato will dominate the porn scene after her rework. Trust in the plan.
>>720666002I initially checked Yamato cause she's my main but didn't expect much cause the ayy lmao look. Here's to hoping valve gives me my coom content
>>720666002I'm a yamato main and I kinda hope they keep her tall and lanky with that skinny long head. Right now she fulls my lanky fetish. If I had to choose which girl I would fuck, it would be Yamato, mainly I can't understand her and she is hot af, second Ivy because I bet she knows how to cook.
>>720666305Nigga she a fuckin alien
>>720666305I don't mind her being tall (it would make sense why she's a good swordsman since stuff like height is bullshit in any kind of martial scenario) but the forehead has to go. Like that anon said she looks like a discount alien.
I refuse to play dishonest characters (Mo&Krill and Doorman) who can press a button and lock you in place for 8 seconds with no counterplay.
>>720667323there is a counterplay and it's called moving away
>>720667469yeah moving away from the computer because only trannies and esports shills play this trash
>>720667323as a Maurice and Krilliam enjoyer let me tell you that you are one of the very few people who haven't figured out "oh I should probably not wander into the part of the map I saw MnK disappear into alone." you're basically an endangered creature at this point.
>>720666283That's one hell of a glowup
I wish. Tried so long to make the gun work better because I just wanted to do nothing but shoot the revolver, but then I realized mirage is way better for that sort of thing
Last time i played Holliday was fucking useless, they buffed her?
One of the new characters next batch is someone who lady Geist hates because she’s just a kind older woman who wants her wish to be guaranteed more time with her friends and family
>>720667469>>720667748>Just move away!>Just don't take a single risk for the entire game.>Just maintain full stamina at all times and don't get near any flanking routes>Just maintain a constant 360 degree visual during every teamfight>Just let me press the button and prevent you from playing the game otherwise you're a shitter. Look at me I pressed 4 I did it mommy I did it I did it!Lash ult can be avoided. Black hole can be avoided. Every other movement restricting ult/ability can be avoided or mitigated in one way or another but if the doorman or the mole target (you) specifically you are locked in place to get gangbanged. I am right and you are wrong. Play honest characters.
>>720668164doorman can be counterspelled at the end of the duration or as you enter the elevator and mokrill can be reduced to nothing with debuff reduction and the damage ignored with reactive barrier
>>720668164have you tried playing MnK before? seriously. go see what it's like to hit 4 willy nilly. that's literally the difference between a 1-15 20k MnK and a 30-5 80k+ MnK. you touch that shit in a group and they will burn you right the fuck down.
>>720652179This is literally the most trans coded post in this entire thread
No, one shot too many.
>>720668440I think the person unironically using the word coded is the most trans coded but then I'm not an expert in internet retardation so maybe I'm wrong
>>720666382>>720666761Her looking like a ayy is the best part, that weird alien/mummy face is so hot to me. I want yamato to sit on my face with her boney ass. >>720666283To me this is a downgrade, why would I want another slut? We need more fetish focused heros. Like Ivy is for furfag troons and Abrams is for homosexuals.
>>720668524There's a lot of projection and passive aggressiveness here that I think you should to talk someone about.
>>720668164Buy Unstoppable then hit it as soon as you they start running into range, 5 seconds is enough to get away or kill them depending on your build
>>720667883she's in the running for best character at the moment
>>720668771>seek le therapyagain I have to insist the most "trans coded" person here is you
>>720668681How do you make a samurai woman into fetish content? A hot samurai lady is just that a hot lady
>>720669039>>720667883>considered one of the best characters in the game>has exclusively received nerfs since she was introduced>fucking useless
Has there been anything about the VN mode in the last year and a half?
I've been finding a new problem in my games recently:>Play a hero that can do absurd wave clear/objective damage>Constantly keep lanes pushed out>Team always groups up for fights and loses, even in "even" matchups of 5v5 while one of the enemies tries to chase me down>Enemies sometimes push the third lane with no one to try and meet them to stop them, legit I'm the only pushing side lanes to choke out enemy>End game with one of the highest soul counts (Usually in the 45-55k range)>Allies are usually are in the 15-25k rangeIt's happened the past three games and it's not like I am taking jungle either. What do I do here? I've been thinking of playing a pure team fighter to at least do well in those brawl team fights on blue lane, but that's not really going to solve the problem if team mates just let enemies push the lanes in.
>>720669386Probably won't be since a good chunk of the cast is unfinished
>>720669479spoilers for you anon: it's a macro focused game. if your team can't macro and the other one can you're probably not gonna win no matter what you do.
>>720670341Fair enough. I'll just be reserved knowing that I do my best with the macro and get the highest obj damage on my team.
>>720652350It's gonna piss people off, and honestly rightfully so. Most people went in with the expectation that a Shooter MOBA was gonna be more approachable. Instead, the Shooter aspect makes learning/playing the game a lot harder: the camera means that where pathways lead and locations of shit like neutral creeps is a lot harder to soft-memorize or even see where they are to begin with (doubly so for things like neutral soul containers), and it's a lot easier to get cucked by the terrain when trying to use abilities, particularly ground-targeting ones (need to be up high to use most of them right to begin with, suddenly they miss if the enemy is up on the curb right next to it)And that's before you get to the MOBA stuff, like how the items aren't really as straightforward as other games, with the effects you're looking for often requiring a combination of items, being placed outside of the expected category, or being conditional to an active use, or how important souls and buffs are tied to the Sinner's Sacrifice machines that new players will rarely ever actually find and have no idea about the fukken nonsense Jackpot mechanic.
>>720670963>how the items aren't really as straightforward as other gamesNow, it may be because I'm a chronic dotard, but Deadlock items are as straightforward as they can get. There aren't even that many multistage or branching recipes Is the existence of active items really that much of a filter? I remember lol basically removing them
>>720669386I doubt it, if I had to guess they're stockpiling VN content so they can slowly release it over time once the game comes out proper.Also like that anon said I imagine the VNs have a lot of future characters that are coming, hence why they're a bit quiet. We already shit like the succubus due to it.
>>720670963>like how the items aren't really as straightforward as other gamesExplain? Most items are stat sticks or passive effects that pop off when you are doing regular gameplay things. That and most of their names tell you exactly what they are pretty well. "Monster Rounds" "Extended Cooldown" "Spirit Resilience".
>Last Stand being able to silence enemies for a period of time is such a devastating effect that it alone is enough to almost put Warden in the Top 10>so anyways, here's Nox Nostra so Mina can do the same thing but without actually putting herself in any dangerWhyyyyyy
>>720670441good man. stay true to God's plan, the macro will never hurt you.
>>720666283built for white men
Is it worth playing hybrid gun/stomp Dynamo at all? Feels good in bot matches, but that's not reality.
>>720671509because she has low health and you can kill her by farting on her.>>720669479the entire point of the game is to take the objective and the team early game usually don't benefit as mucha s people think because respawn times are lowyou are supposed to take lanes, you are just playing with noobs who can't fathom that. I once had to beg a mcginnis whop spent the whole game jungling to take the walkers, she took ONE walker and went back to jungling.
>>720671509last stand doesn't silence? and mina can just be shot down
>It's a "Infernus is allowed to freefarm a sidelane and jungle to get 40k souls in 20 mins game"
>>720672059>win lane>teammate leaves lane and never comes back>infernus just free to farm on their sideneat
Why does Deadlock not have dedicated support?I'm 43 years old just let me play some fairy magic whore that heals so I can pretend I'm 15 again playing a twitch shooter
>>720671098>>720671221Not him, but I've seen a lot of new players fall into the trap of buying things like Weapon/Spirit Shielding when they'd actually want something like Battle Vest/Enchanter's Emblem, and have heard complaints with active items like "well I want to use something like Fury Trance but the downside feels like too much" (namely Vypers with Quicksilver Reload on their dagger, even though they should be focusing on sliding instead).Leads to a lot of them ignoring Vitality as they had to read through what actually gives them enough resist or more health, leading to a lot of glass cannons that can't sustain
>>720672340Bro, your Dynamo, McGinnis, Ivy and Kelvin?All four can be played as excellent supports.
>>720672340Not having defined roles is one thing I really like about Deadlock. Basically anyone can be support or carry
>>720672340deadlock doesn't have dedicated anything besides people with guns and spells you moron. build what you want to do holy SHIT
>>720672340because dedicated supports are lame and in the future once the game has draft mode they don't want people begging other players to pick "mercy" or some shit like that.you can also just buy the heal items yourself you know?>>720672439>Dynamo, McGinnis, Ivy and Kelvin?out of those only mcginnis has a decent heal, and it is usually more of a buffing tool.
What was your favorite retarded meta?Mine was Seven stunmaxxing
>>720667812It's a mod
>>720672720i'll give you ivy's heal is shit, but kelvin and dynamo are excellent at healingmaybe not compared to healers in other games, but frost grenade is a good burst save at all stages of the game
>>720672846It was cancer, but perma-ice beam Kelvin was fun. Failing that, max speed kelvin when he was boxmaxxing.
>>720672846ivy carrying around an active seven ult and turning into stinky breath SpongeBob
>>720672720>he only way to support is to healThis is why games like Marvel Rivals is going to struggle to keep people in a year.
>>720672340basically anyone can be support, eg you can go full support Ivy or you can just make her extreme murder gunslut Ivy
Gun Victor is underrated, still experimenting with it, but with the right vitality items alongside the usual gun items, he can have stupidly high ROI with his nail gun.
>>720673089a lot of the support abilities are more self serving and just so happen to be supportive as well, like paige's shield
what characters are good for newfags?
>>720673557dependsdo you have experience with shooters, ASSFAGGOTs or both?
>>720671509Brother, Warden has the best ult in the game.
Who is the best anti-rat in the game currently? Tired of these motherfuckers taking walkers constantly.Drifter?
>>720673708>shootersused to play TF2 a lot back in it's prime, dabbled a bit in CS but i've weaned off multiple shooters for awhile but have started playing overwatch 2>ASSFAGGOTswas addicted to league back in it's prime but haven't touched since like a decade maybe? dabbled a bit in dota 2 but was never good at italso hots for a bit
>>720651693i solve this by not playing pistol characters they all suck.
>>720674019mokrill is super easy to understand and he's quite goodlash is easy to understand but it's harder to get better at him (compared to mokrill where even the most retarded mouthbreather can do well)seven is just 4 good abilities and is also always strong, there's not much thinking with him besides understanding macro and when to farm somewhat
Is spirit Vindicta the way to go now? I've seen less gun items on her recently.Also, post memes/edits
>>720654737If you haven't noticed this game is not realistic. Rather it is fantastical.
Since Hollidays headshot skill uses spirit power to amplify the damage, I feel obliged to get some spirit items.Only getting Overwhelming Sprit feels like a waste so what else do you all recommend?
>>720675357Tankbuster can be procc'd on it, can't it?
>>720675357tankbuster and rapid rechargeit's hard to pass up the extra charges when you have two charged abilities
>>720649139knew this character was going to be a problem the second I saw the third ability"muh headshot muh skill" characters are absolute magnets for sweaty fuckers and cheating faggots in every game that has them
>>720675405>>720675461The damage is weapon not spirit so tankbuster does nothingExtra charges is something I do remember to take though.
>>720675817Huh, neat. I guess maybe get some of the utility spirit items like knockdown or cold front to get some spirit while also having extra contributions you can do. Could be spicy to permanently lock down someone until you can nuke them.
nobody cares about whatever this slop game is so I'm turning this thread into a better Holiday thread.
>>720671509>Last Stand>Silence
What's the lane match up that you fear?
>>720673230And that's a good thing
>>720649139IT'S ANOTHER CHAMPION SHOOTER BROAYE BRO IMA PICK FUCKNIGGA SHEISTY
>>720672846>>720672976catboxmaxxing
>>720677107I only touched hero labs version of Calico, how is she with this version?
>>720677190Did she still have turrets? There's none of that now, she does melee stuff.
>>720677596Yeah looked it up and she plays way differently now. Love seeing how fast she can go in cat form though.
>>720649139>finally close gap someone as billy>try to hit melee>nigger faggot parry>I die cuz stun takes 50 yearsHow is this good game design? Melee already is a meme build, parry needs to go. Also been winning a lot and still stuck in oracle why?
>>720677190shes good but no more microwaving people turretsI stopped playing her when they nerfed cat
>>720677780Parry is a good psychology filter though.>Be stoic fag and not parry>Get hit with burst damage>Be pussy and parry early>Get baited easily and then hit with burst damage.
>>720677883I came to play a shooter not some fighting game, DSP.
>>720677946So don't melee
>>720677190>>720677780I just main FN Sheisty. Forget Calico, she's weak this season.
>>720678003melee is fine, you can melee in cod or any hero shooter parry is cringe and shouldn't be in game.
To think how much of a bullet we dodged with Neon Prime. To think instead of this cool cat nigga we almost had Miles Morales in space.
>>720677780>just let Abrams go from solid A tier to uncontested S+https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lITBGjNEp08
>>720678267This clown has nothing on FN Sheisty
>>720678349isnt spirit 'brams meta anyways?
>>720678267I don't think we ever had a chance to get Neon Prime. Even if it remained SCI-FI it would still have changed beyond recognition because Valve are not fools, they can make good designs. I seriously suspect that the original designs were also placeholders and simply created by AI
>>720669227Yamato using her long forehead to jack you off.
Which Mina build is the one you're supposed to go
>>720676397>ignoredcommon deltatroon L
>>720678267honestly.until the end of time I will giggle that someone thought neon prime was a good idea and someone else said: "sure, but what about cursed apple?" and everyone loved it and everything they already had barely needed any changing and they brought hoopoo in and there was probably lots of clapping
>>720650004Is it good game design to make characters that force people to aim bot?
>>720681186>goes on cooldown for 20s every time you get a headshot>synergizes with separate ability which holds people in place to get an easy headshot>forces people to aimbot
>>720679969The one that doesnt pick her as she genuinely has the lowest win rate of any character.
They need to fix Paige's dragon because the pathing is absolute fucking garbage.
I'm convinced this game is never gonna be popular. It'll release and then slowly dwindle in players until theres like 10k concurrent players.
>>720681649Depends if Valve is going to start flinging shit at the wall. Datamining is one thing, I want to see the results of it.
>>720681649the only reason numbers dwindle right now is there is nothing to retain players since it's an alpha when they start adding progression stuff like skins, cosmetics, etc. we'll see player retention but right now, rank is just not enough
>>720681753I just think its gonna be difficult to get new players and retain them.
>>720682067Why? It's pretty deep but easy to understand
>the autistic memorization, last hitting and reliance on teammates of Dota>combined with FPS cheatingooh this game is more cancerous than chernobyl
>>720682407To me it demands a lot of skill from players since its both a fps and moba. It doesn't feel like a game where you can actually sit down as a casual and play. Especially when there are games like LoL and Dota that are easier to get into. I'm sure there will be a dedicated fanbase that really enjoys Deadlock but it just doesn't feel like something the mainstream would like.
>>720682687last hitting in deadlock is a nothing burger
>>720682896we just have denying orbs now, which is worse
EXTRA EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT ITDOORMAN IN HOT WATER AFTER CALLING A DJINN A WIND MONKEY
>>720683557Favourite Doorman line is him basically saying to Billy "I would torture you, but that requires you to have a personality outside of being angry all the time".
>>720683557https://youtu.be/39brM5tYjmU?feature=shared
>>720682704>To me it demands a lot of skill from players since its both a fps and moba>games like LoL and Dota that are easier to get intoI completely disagree with you. FPS controls are much more intuitive and convenient for the average player. People are familiar with hero shooters and the only thing left to understand is the economy and all the MOBA crap and Deadlock is very straightforward in that regard. I don't see anyone having a problem with the combat itself. You have characters that don't require good shooting skills at all. It really feels like it has broad appeal and you can play it in any way you want.
>>720682687I've only played a few games in Deadlock that I felt were total losses that were unrecoverable. Nearly every game I've played has been winnable THROUGH MY OWN ACTIONS. Even if my team is 0/12 feeding shitstains, if we expose the Patron and ALL SHOOT IT, WE WIN. Compared to Dota 2 where it really doesn't matter at all if I do a thing because my team will ruin everything without fail.
>>720684050There were so many games where we won after our throne was almost destroyed while we had 20k less souls than the enemy
>>720668164>mmm the guy who counters me and the enemy Infernus are gone>better stay and keep farming!Haze niggers everybody.
>>720668524>Insult someone>They respond>Freak outTrans coded behavior desu.
>>720672340Take the Dynamo and Viscous pill
>>720684403Exactly, and this game is a lot more fun because of it. Losing doesn't feel like ass-shattering grief like losing MMR in Dota because the game is fun.
>>720668164>Just move away!Worked for falcons
>>720684050Winning a base defence can mean about 3k souls for every member of the defending team along with the opportunity to push out all lanes.
>>720676397Acknowledged.
>>720655886Nah they put a chick in it but kept it cool. She's constantly bringing up her dad and granddad in reverence.
>>720667883The last time you played Holliday she was likely 10x more powerful than she is now as she's been one of the most broken heroes in the game since her release and was only severely nerfed in very recent patches.
>>720672340How has no one brought up Paige. Think they made her exclusively to be a healslut. Which is even funnier that at release she had an insanely broken gun carry build that had to be nerfed hard.
how do i play viscous. every build with him feels like shit.
>>720674690Spirit has been the build on her for a long while now. That said gun is a little more reliable now since her stake got super nerfed.
>>720685374Your goo fist skill deals melee damage. Get extra charges, cooldown reduction, enchanters emblem, heling burst, healing tempo, radiant regen, overwhelming spirit, tankbuster and all the melee items.You constantly heal yourself, can heal everyone around you, buffing both at the same time. The items enhancing your melee attacks also enhance the fist skill so nothing should be able to escape you once you've closed the gap.
>they made the "reload on melee charged attack" item cost like 6000fuck this
>>720687042Then get quicksilver reload and do it on whatever has the lowest cooldown.
>>720687042Just play Billy and get that for free
cringe
>>720687042it's insane how much melee was nerfedi guess my theory that they were preparing to release melee heroes was right, since literally half the new heroes had melee stuff built into their kits
For some reason my support Ivy trick suddenly stopped workingLost 8/10 of my last games instead of winning 8/10
>>720687198I liked Mo&Krill and Abrams, but both were really dependent on that item.
>>720649139how do you load bullets into the rectangle gun
>>720687713Gun square, holes round
>>720687750You put them in the barrel of the gun like a musket?
>>720687713It's a Mann Co. product
>>720654737>>720655118>model gets updated>it's mostly the same except they give her a mustache
>>720687978This makes me angry. Does the barrel end screw off like a pill bottle??
>>720649139Only her and sniper characters should be able to headshot. None of talon's spirit shots should deal headshot damage due to how easy they are to land. TF2 perfected the shooter years ago, learn from your own game Valvo.
>>720688341Is this the first time you've seen a gun with an extended barrel?
>>720667323>getting filtered by moeI understand, hes tanky and fast.>getting filtered by doormanHuh??? His weakness is literally just having a pulse
>>720688594What a weird thing to be hung up about. It's not like the headshot damage on a lot of heroes make that much of a difference.
>>720688779Every little thing adds up. Overwatch is tf2 without any of these mechanics. Thats why it feels stale if you remove the hero shooter elements.
>>720687597mo and krill is like the second most common buyer for quicksilver reload and they barely need to use their gun since two abilities self-disarm
I have to say, out of any team based orientated game this is the worst one of them all.Almost every match I had, some fed ass nigger is in OUR JUNGLE taking camps or out positioned and my faggot ass teammates are too glued on a whatever afk task they are doing at the moment even though its like 10 meters away from them.League and HotS was never this bad. Never touched Dota, so I am assuming this game just cant into being a MOBA or Valvecucks are dumb fuck ape brained retards
>>720687118>>720688880Will try it, thanks.
>>720688861>A game feels lesser without the mechanics that the game is built aroundNo shit? I don't get what your argument is here.
>>720687597for abrams use kinetic dash to reload, it's only +8 but if you do it while you're full it gives you bonus ammo that you keep
>>720688919How is any of that the game's fault? That just sounds like you had bad teammates and/or didn't ping for help.
>>720688646Just tell me where the bullets go, Mr.Mann Co. employee
>>720689350Into the enemy, at least hopefully
Do you change your default slide/crouch keys?
>>720689434
lmao
>>720689806
>>720663220>and people don't know what to do anymorePush the lanes, surely? Or even do the urns or the mid-boss? Isn't this entire genre basically designed so a team turtling at their base is punished by knowing the other team will pursue the mid-field and get stronger? Fighting between players is basically constantly encouraged so that kills become inevitable and the whole point of making respawn times longer the longer the game goes is that kills tip the balance more and more?
>>720689806the heist of the century
