Why do people want this to fail? TCR isn't to blame for Paradox fuckups
>>720656318TCR are sniffing their own farts thinking they know best where to take this IP.They can get fucked together with paradox.
people don't want it to fail; it was just massively expected to failhowever the recent showcases might prove the opposite, but it will be hard for them to win back an audience that has seemingly made up their mindthe first game was also way, way more niche than most people thinkthe game might be good but it WILL sell like shit
No. Censoredslop.
>>720656975>thinking they know best where to take this IPMaybe they didn't see themselves capable of making a proper Vtmb2 so they drastically reduced their scope and changed the game to be more action oriented in order to deliver something half decent to the jews at Paradox
>>720656318>Why do people want this to fail?every trailer the reveal looks worse than the one before them. the more lore is revealed the worse the writing appears.the only thing bloodlines 2 has in common with the previous game is the troubled evelopment cycle. bloodlines 1 is a good game despite the shit circumstances of its development not because of it. bloodlines 2 has all the bad things going for it though:>looks like shit>runs like shit >writing looks shit>gameplay looks shit
>>720657943I don't give a shit, troika was a rag tag team of dudes who only made isometric rpgs and they somehow manged to make a cult classic 3D one despite all the hurdles. You telling me the spoiled shits who get all the tools handed to them are incapable to make a RPG in 3+ years? Or they simply didn't want to because they want to force feed you "their" idea of a game and you better like it.They also fucked up Amensia, a very simple concept that was also made by literal whos in their basement.
>>720658323>looks like shitFacial animations are the only thing that look bad. Everything else is quite nice.>runs like shitThere is no evidence of this>writing looks shitYup>gameplay looks shitThey say it feels very Dishonored-like but it does look janky. I'd say the jury is out on this one until people can actually play it.
>>720656318here's hoping we can have a vtmb2 thread without vtmb1autists shitting it uphave they talked about what they will do with Lasombra and Toreador, or do we have to wait until 17th?
>>720658503They also had most assets and characters made for them by Hardsuit Labs. But anyway Paradox is as much to blame for this as TCR if not more. They handled the VTM IP like shit from day 1 and V5 is a disaster.
CAN I BE A MALKAVIAN IN VTMB2 AND WILL THE GAME RECOGNIZE MY UNIQUENESS
>>720656318The first game is one hell of a tough act to follow, and any kind of modern political jockeying/pandering will kill it. High quality writing cannot survive with that "modern" outlook/thinking.
>>720656318People are disappointed that a game theoretically inspired by an all-time great RPG has seemingly had a lot of the RPG elements heavily watered down and/or cut entirely. I think in a post BG3 world people expect more.
>>720658840Get a real job.
>>720656318People simply have working eyes, anon.
game actually looks kinda cool i love the atmosphere. it's no bloodlines 1 tho
>>720659516You're right, it's not.
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>>720659583This poster is triggered from being rightfully called out.
>>720656318The first is the game you should play if you want to know what we have lost. The second is most likeley what you need to play if you want to know what we now have.
>>720659289Nosferatus had the best lines. >>720659570They make breath size go up. You can also use the console command.
>>720659387real question is what's the fucking point. bl2 won't even be on the level of the original, let alone attempt to outdo do it.
>>720656318People are just being autismal because of the name. It’s Dishonored Vampire Edition and that’s fine. Could be the only decent VtM game we get. I expected it to be literally broken and combat to look like, well, the original Bloodlines. It looks fine. RPG elements taking a backseat to linear storytelling is also fine. People are way too excitable when it’s their precious boomerslop getting sequels.
>>720660324watch out youre gonna get called a shill
>>720657943cool, that sounds worse than I thought. Why would I be excited about the game?
>>720658651>They say it feels very Dishonored-like but it does look janky.You can tell from gameplay it really doesn't. Both the combat and movement feel like they're barely holding together.
>>720659583If you've spend day after day after day after day spammimg "hype" threads, talking with yourself and pretending the response to this game hasn't ranged between negative and uncaring you are a shill, yes. Especially when your response to people's negativity is crying about muh tortanic and that people want the game to fail.
>>720659296if troika made vtmb today it would mock or at least throw some irony at trump, 100% guaranteedthe difference to modern devs/writers is that "liberal" vampires wouldn't pretend to be social justice warriors unless they have something to gain out of it. rudi is problematic because he is essentially a superhero that actually believes in feminist, trans and racism shiti think people forget that world of darkness is a survival game set in a horrible world, in fact i see the word "power fantasy" being thrown out too carelessly with regards to vtmb2.you were unusually low generation in vtmb but the game was fucking hard and final death lurked around every corner. jack warns you right at the start and the hotel level right near the start of the game serves to remind the player that you are not invincible and can feel fear. i don't think it is necessary to mention the werewolf.nu game starts on the premise of the powerful elder, ok nice, but remember that people like jack (more or less same age as the nomad) survived until modern nights not because they are elders. but because they are cunning bastards.
>>720656981>people don't want it to failI do.
>>720661030Do you suck dicks?
>>720659583You’ve literally admitted to being paid to do this shit. What did you finally find that old ass cope meme?
>>720656318>no inventory>no gear>no items>no weapons>no guns>no picking locks>no special dialogue options>no skill checks>no attributes>no character creation>no third personThis is Dishonored with talking.
>>720656318You're mistaking "want this to fail" with "know it will fail".Everyone knows what's the state of the world and the industry, which leads to the expectation that it will be shit.TCR can't make good games.Even if they could they have a decade of technical debt.Even if they scratched everything they probably didn't have enough time to polish it.Even if they had, they probably cut a lot of content so the game will be barren.Even if they didn't they can't create a good story.Even if they could, the current wotc won't allow them to.Even if wotc would allow it, the investor would shit their pants seeing anything similar to Bloodlines 1Even if they wore diapers it will still be compared to Bloodlines 1 and it'll probably be worse, even considering the state of Bloodlines 1 without the patch.Buy and add, say hi to uncle rajesh, at least you reminded me how to sage threads.
>>720661337>unironically saving Anonymous posts as gospel or proofholy shit, this place has gone downhill
>>720661502which is not a bad idea in concept, the problem is the story being a sequel to bloodlines and thus the game had to be called bloodlines 2 even though it's not the same genre.
>>720656318??? no one wants it to fail, it's not a big game like cyberpunk or silksong that attract hatersit's just that what they have shown is bad, slightly better after the chinese room takeover, but still mehalso people hate the day 1 dlc with their guts because it ruins the base game builds, clans in this game are not simply cosmetics but have powers you can branch to lol
>>720661502Why do you spread lies you fucking anti shill?
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>>720661912It's true. Every single point. Please prove me wrong. I would love to be wrong. No inventory because you don't have anything. No gear because you don't need anything. No weapons and guns either. You're an elder, not mortal instrument of death comes close to your claws. You can literally just rip steel chains in two. Skill checks don't exist because there are no skills. No attributes either. You are already peak power. Dialogue options like romantic or threatening from Bloodlines 1 are also gone. Character creation is literally you picking male or female. You can change your hairstyle, makeup and shit later but that's it. And the only time you will ever see your character is in dialogue scenes. No third person.
>>720662276She is there but only in Fabiens flashback and you only get to talk to her ghost. She's dead. But at least she has Pattys voice from Bloodlines 1.
>>720662276this was supposed to be the spiritual successor of jeanette kek now i remember why i didn't bother watching updates about this game for years.
>getting paid to shilllucky...
>>720662276How can they create npc of the year and then just ditch it?
>>720662505This bitch seems like a far cry from Elif
>>720663112That's all you gonna get and you better like it.
>>720663112The cuck room.
>>720663112Because she's not Elif. Faceblind niggers are doing their usual routine, now that they realize most of the models were re-used.>ZOMG IS THERE A SINGLE ASPECT WITH SLIGHT SIMILARITY?! IT'S DA OLD MODEL!People usually claim the headless bitch is ACK-CHULLY the generic Tremere, because look at her top! It has those weird horizontal fastener thingies and some lace!
>>720663112these troon faces are awful
>>720663112>that "he's behind me, isn't he" cringe writingjesus fucking christ
>>720661627You make the same threads every fucking day and have been doing so for months. All of your threads are the same shit. You can try to use anonymity as a shield but that doesn’t work when you’re constantly dropping the mask just to go apeshit.
>>720661082Never sucked any dick, so no.
I'm glad they went with elder > thin blood because1. seeing an elder deal with modern shit, weapons and dangers after years of torpor is always an interesting premise (hello christof)2. thin bloods are lame because they are not real vampires. in the hardsuit version you would have diablerized your sire which is an immensely disgusting act with no other alternatives (and the game was supposed to be a RPG). third, there was going to be some sort of "oppression" dynamic between the thin blood protag and the sire, which is also crap. fourth, your sire would have been high generation (because those are the ones who make thin bloods) so even after the diablerie you would have been a crap vampire.elder is better. unfortunately, they don't have the writing skills to make the nomad talk like a proper vampire that has slept for so many years. and the horrible outfits, especially on the female, make it seem a tumblr xir/her character.
>>720656318Hey shill anon, when your game drops get me a xbox key
>>720663112am i the only one itt who thinks elif is the one that looks like a tranny?
>>720656318The field of view is SOOOOOOOOOOO NARROW
>>720663691>1. seeing an elder deal with modern shit, weapons and dangers after years of torpor is always an interesting premise (hello christof)That's only an interesting premise when the elder has to either deal with the challenges presented by the situation or find help (whatever form help may take in this case). That's never again going to be an interesting premise because every video game protagonist now comes with it's own pocket genie that has all the knowledge the protagonist may lack disguised as a character in the game. For this they went with the two consciousnesses in one body bullshit.
>>720663691>an elder deal with modern shitI can guarantee you they won't do anything with it. They could and it would be great if they did, but they won't. Nines giving you his life story about the great depression is more juxtaposition than you will ever get in Bloodlines 2.
>>720664016>That's never again going to be an interesting premise because every video game protagonist now comes with it's own pocket genie that has all the knowledge the protagonist may lack disguised as a character in the game.One of the biggest points of VtMB was encouraging the player to ask questions to get the whole picture of the setting they're in, while still giving the player the opportunity to ignore those spiels. Nines straight up tells you just how unimportant Catboi LaCroix is if you let him get on his soapbox in the early part of the game.
>>720664435It’s only okay to ask questions until they’re about how similar the Anarchs are to the Camarilla.
>>720664653Which is in-character and Jack points out just how young the Anarchs in the Last Round are, so while they're good people, they're just as much kids as you are.
>>720656318
>>720664016>>720664367that's true but it's a point i already admitted in my post. but flat elder with no writing is still better than standard "victim-oppressor" trope which smells of...V5. So Rudi and other unpleasant shit.that said, please explain how the left girl is better than the right aesthetically speaking.
>>720662276Mmm Turkish booba
>>720656318They dont want it to fail, they KNOW it will fail.
>>720656318>Why do people want this to fail?some posters from here annoyed me and i no longer wish for them to be happy. simple as.shouldn't have pissed me off
>>720657445What?
>>720660324Best take I've seen so far
>>720663464Fuck you
>>720656318And you CALL it "Bloodlines 2", despite the fact that it is obviously just another VN with terrible combat tacked on.
>>720656318>Why do people want this to failIt's wokeslop
>>720665706What is this meme of calling games that have dialogue options VNs.
>>720665006>that's true but it's a point i already admitted in my post.No you said they don't know how to write good old timey dialogue. But i'm talking about anything at all. To quote Damsel "candle light is a keen invention" to elders. Nomad should be commenting on indoor plumbing, widespread electricity, telephones, cars everywhere. And that's just the basics. Remember Jacks "the age of cell phone cameras, fuckups ain't tolerated" speech? Nomad should deliver those every once in a while. That's not good writing, that's the bare minimum.
>>720660324>>720665706The duality of anon!
>>720665551Keep crying, faggot.
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>>720660324This. I'm going to try it, unless there's a lot of broken shit going on. It's not like we were gonna get anything else in our lifetimes..
>>720660324I think it's people who are so Godless they need to worship things like video games and Hollywood actors.
>>720660324>It’s Dishonored Vampire EditionThat's setting up people for disappointment. There's very little so-called insim-like systemic stuff in the game as far as we could see. The hunting has a modicum of that with the NPC moods, but it's very limited (though funny when you see people getting mad at something and the cop shooting them for no action of your own).>the more lore is revealed the worse the writing appears.What makes you specifically say that? I found the clan trailers so far to be decent.
>>720660324>>720666000YepI don’t have high expectations to begin with, because the Hardsuit version looked like it had a bunch of problems too + this game was in development hell for so longEven if it ends up being a Dishonored clone, as long as it’s decent I’ll try it simply because it’s been so long since the first Bloodlines
Only shills care about the game. That made up "argument" of people wanting it to fail is nothing but a pr stunt to somehow make it go viral and promote its "features".No one fucking cares anymore. Even my shithole goycountries slopmag that felates everyone who spares those journo fucks a handful of change just had one article about how atrociously shit it is but not in a fascinating, funny way but more like in "another shovelware asset flip" that will silently die. The shitty battle royal thing probs got more attention.
>>720665872you mean the reaction to things in general not just the dialogue. point taken. unofrtunately yeah i think they are just going to skip things and pretend the supporting characters informed phyre of EVERYTHING.thinking about it the thin blood story could have been much better if they just allowed you to create YOUR character ("what if i became a vampire?"). but they never truly had a strong idea for the story so they made it more personal. and making it more personal led us to a set main character.
>>720660324>hey guys it’s just a name don’t take it so seriously>I mean it’s not like they set out to make a sequel to a game and are using it and its popularity to gain good willYou need to stop making posts like this, they out you especially when you have to reply to yourself just to cover your ass immediately after.
>>720656318we didnt want it to fail, we know it will
>>720666415This, no one would even give a shit about this game or talk about it if this faggot wasn’t spamming threads daily.
Give me VV or give me final death
>>720666459Why do you think the original was a VtM game in the first place and not a brand new original IP? This isn't a new thing at all, and honestly I don't understand why anyone cares beyond if the game is faithful to the source material.
>>720666686>Why do you think the original was a VtM game in the first place and not a brand new original IPWhy do you need to create these retarded strawmen arguments? Is what I said really that air tight that you have to make shit up completely just to have something to argue?
>>720666415>Only shills care about the game.Obsessive VtM fans too, at the very least.
How long do you think it'll be before the shills stop posting their marketing threads?
>>720666796Can't address what I said at all huh?
what phenotype is this? middle eastern? can i make her shout allah akbar when blood boiling westerners?
>>720666893probably until after or right before the quarterly earning reports the game's release was in
>>720666893Probably a week or two after release. But that in of itself will be full of unhinged shit that’s a mix of him having a mental breakdown and trying to say it’s good and that it sold well. Just like the trannyguard shills.
>>720666923You mean you’re strawman? No I’m not going to argue something that has nothing to do with what I said or what’s being talked about.
>>720667057>You'reRetard. And how was what I said not relevant? They made a game based on an IP because they wanted fans of the IP to play the game and new fans to get into the IP. How is that substantially different for the sequel? The answer is it really isn't, and you won't give an answer because you can't.
>>720666945nvm she is a mutt according to AI.
>>720666945>>720667361iirc the MC lived in the Ottoman Empire around the 1600s
>>720666682>Call me Velvet....
>>720667294>still pushing strawman argument It’s not relevant because you tried saying something that has nothing to do with what I said but claimed it was what I was arguing. Not to mention you’re currently contradicting yourself since you said “ Why do you think the original was a VtM game in the first place and not a brand new original IP” which you changed to this because you realized how fucking stupid it was. It’s nothing like the fucking previous game which they are trying to market to people that liked the previous game. This shit is easy to figure out, yet you can’t fathom it because you’re either paid to act retarded or are just terminally retarded.
>>720667774ottoman empire means little there were hundreds of different folks under their rule.
>>720667956yeah, but it's a start at least.
>>720656318There is no soul in this game, it was taken out back, shot and brought back as a corpse of its original design just to fatten up the purses of the people who exploit nostalgia.Apart from everything already said by others:> Pay-walling two of the most important classes.> DLC plans when the base game looks and plays shit.yeah, I think it deserves its fate
>>720668047>> Pay-walling two of the most important classes.nigga i'm a Lasombrafag and even i know they've never been relevant before V5.
>>720667956>hundreds of different folks>folks
