>Game running poorly? just buy better comput-
>>720658854>4kmeme resolution
>>720658854This game is still success.Even /v/tards are playing it.Cope and seethe.
>>720658854they are doing it on purpose, theres is no way this shitty cel-sheded/cartoony graphics are that demanding.
I'll say it again for the people in the backCan you tell me why you can't just afford better hardware? Let's be real, you're an incel who plays games all day. The idea you can't get better hardware when all you do is play games all day is crazy to me. Cyberpunk came out ages ago, you're telling me you're broke without telling me you're broke. Borderlands 4 is going to be fantastic and we're releasing it with boundary pushing graphics. You haven't seen graphics like this in Borderlands 3, and if you're going to tell me you have you haven't even played it. Sorry but this is ridiculous, if anything it sounds commie and reddit, buy a better graphics card plain and simple. This wave of Borderlands 4 hate is pure incel coded.
>very organic thread
>>720658854>4kthere is your problem
>>720658854I don't get how, the game looks like shit, no better than Borderlands 2 over a decade ago.
>>720659279borderlands 2 looked great and ran well on hardware back then and even had physX blood which felt like the future
>>720658854>game is yet another unreal trash "game" that cant run at 60 fps on a 5090 even with all the bullshit meme tech enabled>dont buy it>set it to not interested>tag it with Broken and UnrealSlop tag so other tagchads dont get this shit in their frontpagesimple as
>>720659004Gamers are actually retarded. This is not news.
>>720659124> I´m a nigger btw
>>720659492I mean sure, but I don't understand how BL4 looks pretty much the same, and runs like shit on even the most modern and high end consumer grade hardware.
>>720658854Why would a game that looks like that need any of these resources? It should run fine on 5 year old computers for fucks sake what’s the difference?
if you dont use 4k textures you can easily hit 60 fps.
>>720659726>just disable the feature you bought a 2000 dollar gpu for bro
>Don't have 5090 haha poor poor brown thirdie haha poor>Have 5090lol fell for the meme lmao idiot >he boughtedindatedrationificated
>>720659809If you bought it for 4k textures you are retarded, 4k textures are like raytracing, a complete meme that this parts just arent strong enough to actually utilize
>>720659706ai generated game.
>>720659726textures dont affect FPS unless you dont have enough VRAM
>>720659004>successSelling data please.
>>720658854>4Kliterally a resolution for the rich or morons that wastes all the money they don't have they should not be pandered to
>>720659492....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LIwl_uSsGRY
>>720659918>just don't play with 4k textures>just don't play with ray tracing>just don't play with 4k resolution>just don't play the game
>>720660048kek the absolute state of nvidians
>>720659990Those textures take a fuck load of VRAM, and now slap lumen and denuvo ontop of it
>2015>NOW YOU CAN PLAY ON 4K!!!>2025>NOW YOU CAN PLAY ON 4K!!!4k is a meme
>>720658854UE5 needs to be condemned and avoided
>>720660048The monitor is right there on your desk. For what you need a bigger than 24 inch display?
>>720660048You are suppose to use all the gimmicks, pretend you don't notice it looks like shit, and then tell everyone it works on your machine and they must just be poor.
>>720660172>Do not redeem UE5You are the brown
I hope this shit series dies and Gearbox goes bankrupt after this debacle.
>>720660278It wont retard. The games are too good and enjoyable
why can't modern GPU's run anything at 4k?have we seriously just technologically peaked at 1440p?
>>720660241But 30 FPS boosted artificially to 180 is just fine? There's literally nothing wrong with it, it's just more frames, the number in the top right says so.>>720660278Good news, despite what the retards will scream about with no context or actual information, the games sales are trending towards a MHW scenario(but without near as much initial success.) where it falls the fuck off hard. It has a real chance of not making enough to cover its 280-300M budget plus their loss from the movie. I doubt it'll kill anything, but it's definitely an embarrassment they'll try to cover up. At least they cant half-ass the DLC and ditch it like they did wonderlands.
>>720659124>I'll say it again because Im desperate for (You)sfixed that shit for you
>>720659083It's called "UE5 with the most intensive graphics option locked in the on and max positions and no optimization work done at all."It's fucking hilarious how bad the performance is.
>>720659004I don't care whether it's a success or not, I am not an affiliate or shareholder for Gearbox. what I care about is how the product runs for the customer.
>>720660712then they slapped denuvo and symbiote on toplmao
>>720660804>what I care about is how the product runs for the customer.runs smooth on 1080p (how real men play)
>>720660939>and symbiote on topFirst time hearing about this one. Heck's Symbiote?
>>720660996:doubt:
>>7206610262ks inhouse bullshit that they updated the EULA to force you to agree to the silent installation of
>>720661170Ah yes, hmm, I see.I don't really believe you honestly.
>>720663204I meanYou can be retarded if you wantOr you can just google it since it's not a secret they hideThey just expect retards like you to not read the EULA, like you didn'thttps://www.google.com/search?q=What+is+2ks+Symbiote
>>720663312One of the first results, a twitter post saying that Symbiote was removed on the 18th of June.
>>720658854Why is every retard acting as if you can only run the game on the highest settings? The game looks great on high and runs much better.
>It's not real>Ok it's real butNah fuck off nigger you've shown your true colors.
>>720659998I know that you will act like this doesn't count for anything, but you know that you're being dishonest and so does everybody else.
>>720663921I never said it wasn't real, I simply said I didn't believe you, nor WHY I didn't believe you. I just had general doubts about a random fucko on /v/.Would you rather I have said "Neat, thanks for telling me, but it appears that BL4 doesn't have Symbiote because of SteamDB data updates indicating it was removed months before release, which coincides with it not being listed on the Steam page."Like come on, bruv. Save the noreplyposting for /vg/.
>>720664047Yeah try again listing the games by peak online let's see the direct competitors of this astonishing success.
>>720664047>Everything else, more follows than peak/online>BL4 more online than followshuh
>He bought a 5000 series GPU
>>720658854I'm not paying 2k to play a game that looks just like boredomlands 2
>Dogshit game I never even wanted to play doesn't run well under any circumstanceOH NOOOOOOOOOOO.....
>>720664405sir u are poor u are cope
>>720663918what kind of BADASS wouldn't want to play this BADASS game on BADASS settings? The fans deserve the most BADASS experience
niggas are literally using the models zbrush sculpts without bothering with retopo and 8k textures.
>>720659809You wouldn't complain if the game didn't have the higher settings that don't run on your machine. You don't care about what the game looks like, you care about playing on ultra. You also do not have a $2k GPU.
4k is a fucking retarded meme. The load stuttering when moving to a new area needs to be fixed.
>>720659124Fuck of retard
>>720664486Randy, your flagship game franchise is the digital equivalent of "fishy smelling pussy"
>nigger mad hes not getting the attention he wants>samefags an hour later
hey someone post that one picture of randy being pissed on, I can't find it
>>720659279This is what I don't get about the visuals of most modern games in general that have these massive hardware requirements. Maybe I'm blind but I genuinely can't see a meaningful visual improvement from games that are 10+ years old now
>>720664723Yeah, but it sells well. Wanna see a magic trick?
>>720664864Crysis is almost 20 years old.
>>720664864You should actually go back and play a 10+ year old game instead of relying on your memory. >I totally did thatNow actually do that. And bonus points if you don't cherry-pick the most competent people while comparing them with some average retards.
>>720658854>NativeOk there grandpa. DLSS is the future.
>>720658854hmm how are the reviews. 66% mixed like the avarage school groid.
>>720659279I think the game looks really good but shame that it runs so bad so I can't even consider trying it out in its current state. :/
>>720664864>Why does it run bad it doesn't look that good?
>>720659004>Even /v/tards are playing it.They should be euthanized for playing AAA games.
>>720665004your shitty fad will die within 2 generations.
>rtx 5k cant handle it>it looks exactly like borderlands 3defend this
>>720658854What’s the real reason for this? Unreal 5 or jeet coding?
>>720665460It is with great regret I am saddened to inform you, this appears to be the work of......The French. It has been, thoroughly, Ubislopped.
>>720659004Yep and this is a bad thing>multiple games this year released at 20-30 FPS>these games sold like hotcakes and fly off the shelves>each time this happens more and more devs will think its ok to release 20-30 FPS games
>>720665387Competence has regressed.
>>720659004>This game is still successDoubt, Borderlands 3 was a failure to the point that they changed a DLC into a entire new game for 70 dollars to recoup their loses with Tiny Tina Wonderlands, Boderlands 4 is not pulling better numbers, Randy hinted that is probably the last Borderlands 4 if it fails 2K expectations.
>>720658854Thank god I havent touched an AAA game in years.
>>720664982I don't know how you could suggest this reasonably. Games have not improved at all. Texture, mesh, etc detail has gone up, sure, but the visual cohesion of games is so, so, so much worse. When you talk about how graphics are advanced, we can't just talk about the max settings of games that, now more than ever, nobody plays at. You have to think about the average experience of people playing these games. 4k resolution now a thing, 4k textures, highly detailed models? Who cares. Everyone is using DLSS balanced or performance to hit 60 fps in any modern game, so any detail gained turns to detail lost as they play blurry pieces of visual noise. The same applies to raytracing, lumen, nanite, all these garbage technological "advancements" being pushed on people. They're so increasingly demanding that your average gamer either finds ways to turn them off completely or turn them so low that they look horrendous. To the average gamer BL2 unironically visually leaps over BL4 just because of how horrendous they have to make BL4 look to make it run similarly. That's hugely embarrassing and should be a death sentence for this industry.
>>720665753Its failing expectations. Because expectations were set at 7mil on launch, as in first weekend. It hasn't hit near that shit. The bloated 280-300Mil budget is also a huge hurdle.
>>720659124A 5090 doesn't even keep 60 without fake frames at 4k. It's a cartoon game. Where's all the power going? Are they mining bitcoin in the background or something? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpyiNMq0DQY
>>720658854Let's see how well it holds out to the "but does it runs well on the steam deck?"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxBMJWozwssAnd yeah, it is actually heavy.
>>720664982>>720665183I guess the thing is 13 years ago fewer people were on 30" monitors. On a 20" monitor 1080p looks good, on a 27+" monitor 1080p looks like shitso 2025 we're getting a 4k game on a 30" monitor that looks like a 2012 game at 1080p on a 20" monitor4k is a meme unless you absolutely have to have big monitors.
>>720665892>5090 can't run itWhat machine were they using to test the game where they said "Yeah this is playable! Ship it!"
>>720666961>What machine were they using to test it?Yours.Get back to it.
>>720659124Nvidia 50 series cards are all varying states of broke, from manufacturing defects to hardware level bugs. 40 series is pretty much the same as the 30 series, just marginally better performance in some areas but at a completely overinflated price.Intel 14/13 gen cpus also have a problem of defects and bugs, and again there's barely any performance difference between 12/13 gen cpus so why upgrade there.AMD has always been spotty and the only reason they're getting more popular is because intel and nvidia are dropping the ball so hard.
>>720666961they just assume everyone's gonna run AI upscaling from 1080p and with AI multi-frame genso they don't bother trying to get it to run 4k native at ultra.Gamedevs literally think they need to make games peak on hardware that doesn't exist yet.not realizing that 5 years from now when there is hardware that can run it at 4k native at playable frames the game will be old enough that only a few people will bother.
>>720660172Silent Hill f runs at locked 60 with no stutters. It's a skill issue. Execs see the Unreal as an excuse to jettison bunch of their own inhouse engine staff and it shows.
>>720659004give us the PLAYER COUNT randy
>>720658967>you should buy the latest and greatest pc parts, what are you poor?>noo don't buy the best monitors! you should stick to poor people resolutions!why are corpo cucks like this?
>>720659004Lol you were propagandized into performing oral sex on corporations
>>720658967but the fact the card DESIGNED for 4k can't even brute-force it is disturbing
>>720664198>follow game before it comes out or for updates>stop playing the game>never unfollowhappens all the time
>>720666961Their performance targets relied on full frame generation.It is so over.
>>720659124You shouldn't need better hardware. This game looks like ass, there is 0 excuse for it to run this bad. Drop dead.
>>720658854>>720667379This wording makes it seem like the GPU is at fault. No shit if you try to tow a 2 ton rock with a F-150 it doesn't work.
>>720667484AI frames are future sir, please redeem.
>>720667679I honestly wouldn't mind using them for some moviegame or a turn based JRPG where accuracy doesn't really matter but isn't this a fast paced, responsive Quake style shooter?
>>720666597>4k is a meme unless you absolutely have to have big monitors.Definitely not. Running 1440p on a 4k monitor looks better than 1440p on a 1440p monitor.
Frame gen? JFC I have a 5080 and the only time I ever had to use it was with Cyberpunk.Does this game even have path tracing?
>>720667594But what did Randy actually do?
>>720658854I hadn't played on console since 2015 and only recently I got a PS4 to play Gran Turismo 7. It looks great. I also tried Killzone Shadowfall and even at 30FPS it still rocks. I liked it so much that I decided to order a PS3. I never finished Eternal Sonata.
>>720665753Memelands 3 sold over 20 million copies.
>>720667795No it's ubislop with guns that either autoaim or have so much bullshit tacked on that you only need to vaguely aim near shit.
I dont get why the game runs like shit, it doesnt look much better than Borderlands 3
>>720667920When, what time period, what pricepoint were the majority sold for?Retarded mouthbreathing market nigger.
>>720667594Actually f150s can handle 7 tons these days
>>720667979Nvidia is the biggest beneficiary of games running like crap so they can keep selling DLSS. And the people making games now should never have made it past high school.
>>720658854fuck nvidia and timmy for this clusterfuck. current gen will continue to suffer as long as these two have any say in the industry
>>720668031You lost. Normalfags run this franchise.
>>72066797950% of your CPU is mining your PC for marketing analytics.
>Moxys guide to FPS gain>Go into settings>Turn all the pretty shit all the way down>Turn all the fake framegen and slopification all the way upThere it is dood!
>>720667979lumen and nanite probably
>>720667594>gpu made for both rendering and making up rocks>can't render rocksit's the fault of both
>>720659124I have a 4080, but I'm also in a better position financially than I was years ago. It's hard out there for people these days just trying to survive.
>>7206588544k is a meme. Why yes I am a bad ass over here. How did you know?
>>720658854Why did game devs stop trying to optimize their games? They could make the original Half-Life and it would require a 2010's computer to run it.
>>720668464outsourced to india
Hello sirring I am to this thread to telling you 4k is the meme do not redeem it thanking you. Also you are the poor.
>>720668464AI has made game devs lazy because they know people with modern cards can just turn on AI upscaling and AI frame gen and play it, so they don't bother optimizing and just figure in 5 years people will have rigs that can run it at ultra native and so it'll look good for a 5 year old game still.
>>720659124>Can you tell me why you can't just afford better hardware?The problem is that even the best hardware can't run it. What am I meant to do, make my own?
>>720668464Death of philotimo
>>720664982As someone having recently played BL1, 2, Presequel, 3, and even Wonderlands, the gap between 4 and 2/PS is way, way smaller than the gap between 1 and 2.The benefit does not outweigh the cost.
>>720658967Back in my day 1080p 60fps was all you needed!
>>720667132And five years from now the game will be on a Steam sale for 9.99
>>720660005exactlyjust move further back from the monitor, it's much cheaper
>>720669696>yearstry 8 months100% this shit will be 20% off christmas sale at least
>>720658854I have a 5070ti and it runs 60 fps on 4k med settings
>>720667594>No shit if you try to tow a 2 ton rock with a F-150 it doesn't work.Isn't that quite literally the point truckfags say about them?Their ability to tow 2 tons in the truck?
>>720661026legal backdoor to your rig
>>720664047Dragon age veilguard was at the top too when it released, yet still was a total failure in sales.
>>720670783sorry chud 300k and its not even the weekend means 1% of playerbase on steam alone steam sold 3 billion units
>>720659004>yous should change you opinion of the [thing] depending on its perfomancesorry npc-bro, not happening
>>720659004>No one points out >is still success<this game is most needful.
>>720671081>thread full of jeets defending the game didn't notice the jeetlishwaoh!
>>720668140lel
>>720670390CPU?
>>720671212no i prefer milves
>shift change in india>all the other threads die offlmao
>>720658967FPBP
>>720671212Ryzen 5 9600X
>>720659083This is Gearbox we're talking about, they're not exactly known for doing quality work outside of HL1 stuff, the expansions and especially the PS2 port are actually worthy of the lambda branding.
>>720664982Witcher 3 is exactly 10 years old
>>720659124>tell me you're [thing] without telling me you're [thing]100% worthless zoomer detected
>>720660712Speaking as a dev making a cel shaded UE5 game, I refuse to buy this excuse. UE5 has optimization issues, and when I say optimization issues, I mean “my 1070 is only getting 80FPS average and it could be getting 100FPS average”.
>>720668641Nobody's gonna play this trash in 5 years>>720667132
>>720658854planned obsolescence is real
>>720660109Show us the amd benches
>>720670990>not even the weekend>sundaybait
>>720675102AMD cards doing slightly better than nvidia because the new drivers nvidia plopped out are shit.Well, comparitively.
>>720658967this. 2k is the current standard and all mid tier gpus can hit that easily @ native.
Haha that's crazy I have a GTX950 and I'm not upgrading until devs start optimising hahaha.>t. playing Splatoon 3 on my Switch atm
>>720658854This game wasn't even on my "eventually" list and I didn't even play BL3. But it feels good knowing how wretched the game is optimized because it's just exposing how garbage developers are when they shift all optimization efforts onto AI cope tech. Also look at MH Wilds. They made that game with framegen in mind just to reach 60fps. Abysmal.But you know Gearbox is going to throw themselves at fixing the game unlike the japanese.
>>720669476Back in your day, a high end gaming PC was 1000. Now it's 2000 plus for the graphics card.
>>720674181yeah I agree but that's the mindset devs have, is thinking that the game will last longer if in years when people have better hardware they can run it at higher settings and native and it'll look bettera gamer's mindset is "nobody will likely play this more than a year"a dev's mindset is "we need to future proof this game so people play it longer"Game developers are always disconnected from what gamers actually care about.even if someone plays a 5 year old game they EXPECT it to not look as shiny as new games and not really care. Nobody is dusting off a game that barely ran on their old machine at medium settings 5 years ago, installing it on their new machine, and being amazed that they can now run it on ultra. They're pissy about how when they bought the game 5 years ago, it barely fucking ran on their new at the time machine.But devs think we'll appreciate BL4 on ultra in 2030.
>>720658854It’s 2k. They’re rich shareholders out of touch. So instead of saying “we will fix performance” they shill shit they makes them more money. At least the game loop is decent. Don’t buy until sale.
>>720674549modern gaming is a jewish humiliation ritual
>>720658854>game is DESIGNED to use DLSS/framgen to reach 60fpsFrom what I've read online, framagen's main benefit is when you can already reach >100fps native and you use it to push you up to 160/200 to give a smoother visual without impacting input lag too much. All reviews I've read on this topic say that using it to get from 30fps native to 60fps is just swapping fps for massive input lag. So it's crazy to me that these devs go in with the assumption that you're gonna do 30fps native.Has anyone actually used framegen in this way? How do games feel, is it sluggish to play?
>>720659918yeah mate can't wait to spend $2k to play 1440p in 2025 (at 90fps)!
>>720659124>The idea you can't get better hardware when all you do is play games all day is crazy to meSeems like you're the crazy onehow does one who doesn't have a job and disposable income afford top of the line PC's?>Borderlands 4 is going to be fantastic and we're releasing it with boundary pushing graphics.Oh, so we have a marketer in the thread, I'm playing your game for free, go fuck yourself
screeching here doesn't matter, you still bought it at full price day one, they have zero reasons to do anything at all.
>activate all the gimmicks for "maximum graphical fidelity and better performance">number on top right is good but the game plays like ass>moving mouse to aim has literal 1 second delayDropped resolution, disabled all gimmicks, now game runs at 60 and doesn't look any different.The game has cartoon graphics, you're not playing a rockstar game that's aiming for hyperrealism, turn off all the unnecessary shit, especially when they hinder the gameplay. I'm using Harlowe and the flux capacitor ability just covers the screen with shit
>>720667594I have a ~3070 equivalent AMD GPU but top of the line MB, RAM, CPU and fast m.2 ssd, my performances skyrocketed with everything around the GPU getting a lot better. With the price of a top of the line GPU you can upgrade the rest of your PC and have better performance gains.
SAAR YOUR COMPUTER CANNOT RUN OUR CLIENT'S GAME AT 120 FRAMES??? YOU ARE THE BLODDY POOR!!!
>>720658854>4kthere is no need to play at anything higher than 1080phuman eye cant see more than 24 fps and 1080p anyway
>4kmeme resolution lol >gottem>im so funny and original>and not at all a jeet engagement marketer
>>720659004>buying games from Randy Pyou're a mentally retarded tranny
>>720680472the game forces RTXso you're screwed either way
>>720659998It's a fucking Borderlands game. It has a huge fucking fanbase. It will never fail.
>>720684908Faggot posting fake image again.>c-c-copeSource it.
>>720659004you tranny shills say it every time then shit flops and stuidos are closedlmao
>>720658967This. 4k has been pushed as the new enthusiast standard since at least 2015, yet no high end consumer hardware has been able to run contemporary releases at 4k60. We were almost there with the 30 series cards, then the push for goytracing and slopscaling in everything kicked in.
>>720658854Great victory for randy many blessings unto his house.
>>720685920Funnily enough, I still just play windowed at sub-1080p resolutions.
