The flea games are making me lose my mind.
I don't want the next game to be about lace, no one likes that bitch besides balding freaks wanting to see her fuck hornet.
>>720679362>next game is more of a focus on killing gods/source of gods>has hornet/lil ghost/lace playablewould it go hard
>>720679362Next game is gonna take 14 years
i fucking love generals
How do i know where to go for the Silk and Soul quest? The game tells you fucking nothing?
1 hour into Bilewater. It really isn't as bad as I thought it would be. Sinner's Road made me seethe more.
>>720679362Next game is about foxes or some shit
>>720679362Kill yourself Lace hater schizo, everyone loves her and she will be the next face of hollow knight.
>finally got the double jumpNice, I can finally start playing the game
im really enjoying the game but im gonna be 100% honest, not a single track has stood out to me other than the one that plays in the choral chambers. it's metroid dread all over again where the game is fun asl but the music just.. gets the job done i guessdae feel the same? not gonna download the ost like i did with hk that's for sure
>all the higher beings in hallownest have dream abilities to some extent or another>grand mother silk seemingly doesn'tSo is she just a shitter or did she go all in on silk stuff?
Even after insalling the farsight, there is no completion counter for my questlogs? Interesting.
HIS NAME IS ROBERT PAULSON
>>720679794Yeah, it's a boring soundtrack.
>>720678980How old will you be when they launch the third Hollow Knight game in 2032 with Sherma as the protagonist?
>playing Hollow Knight>finally figuring out the greater plot>took advice from here and got the Double Jump before going to the three symbols on the map>farmed a ton of money for the Fragile Mods because the Lost Kin boss doesn’t “kill”>decided to go back to the Forgotten Crossroads to gather some Grubbers and maybe get an ore to sharpen the Nail>take the “bus”>there is an orange fog coming from the cave’s entrance>weird but probably I never paid attention to it. There were some orange enemies near this area too so I guessed it signals to them.>enter>bunch of orange blobs and veins everywhere>weird sharp fly enemies pulsing orange that tank a good share of hits and explode upon death>Infected Crossroads>the map is now erratic, some enemies are infected and got stronger, tougher and faster, some carcasses or other enemies are dead, drained or warped>can’t find the Grubber near the Voodoo guyShit is FUCKED!I am loving this. It’s like Metroid Fusion when the X Parasyte evolved and when you revisit early areas they are completely different.I think the goop fly enemies I saw earlier were a huge foreshadowing that the infection was already spreading since the start since they took more hits and dropped 6 coins straight away. So while I was exploring down below, the disease (fungus?) was spreading without anyone to stop it
>>720679794In my opinion it's just as good as HK's
>>720679864>pilby>pill bugVery creative, team cherry.
>>720679794A lot of the boss tracks stand out to me
what am I supposed to do at the top of the cogwork core?
I have two slots for the Vesticrest from Eva. Now the First Shrine guy is asking for me to obtain her soul or something. Is it possible for me to miss anything with this going on?
>>720680058It's so easy that I guarantee you didn't even try anything before asking.
huh there's a secret moss mother spawn at the start of the game in act 3 for absolutely no reward or reasonwonder if there's any more of those
>>720679362yeah I sure hope it's not a game about herhonestly they should try something else, I don't want them to go full retard like mitsubishi and endlessly churn out harder and harder le prepare to le die games until it turns into total slop
lost lace is kicking me arse
>>720679362It won't be, she's a bitch in case you didnt notice. They would never make the main character a bitch.If you lose when frighting her she laughs at you. No main character would do this
>>720680214>spoilerseems to be a common theme with this game
>>720679603talk to the guy at songclave who posted it, he'll give you hints
silkbros, what did hornet mean by 'primal instinct' here?
>>720679794The Lace track rocks. It's kind of reminiscent of Hornet's theme from Hollow Knight, but Lace's has a more frenetic tempo to it. The Bilewater track is also really beautiful. And let's be honest. The generic, broad boss battle theme is also quit the banger. Clockwork is the best one though.I also keep humming the Psalm Cylinder Salvation track tune. I love that they allowed you to make it play in Bellhart.
> YOU!> SHALL NOT!
>>720679794Its mid as fuck. Multiple HK OSTs are seared into my skull while the only one that stands out in SS was Choral Chambers.
>>720680484What the actual FUCK was this guys problem?
but what is it that broke the carriage's binding at the start of the game? is there any significance to those butterflies?
>>720680214There's one for that big Ant guy you would've probably fought twice that's also voided. Mercifully I don't think there's a Void Savage Beastfly
So I'm on act 2, completed 2 out of 3 objectives and I only have 1 needle upgrade, please help I want enemie to stop taking forever to kill
>>720680229I don't actually agree. Granted that I didn't find Phantom super difficult either. But I found the trick to Last Judge was to just sprint back and forth.
>>720680578Complete the Gourmand Quest (the one with five ingredients), you also need to beat the enemy gauntlet in Cogworks Core.
>>720679362lace is great, and the dynamic they set up for her and hornet at the end is a good setup for more
If they released playable Hornet for Hollow Knight and playable Knight for Silksong.Would you replay both games?
I THINK MOUNT FAY WAS KINO
>>720680424The Pharlid within
>>720680641There are no straight forward upgrades?
>>720678980The voice of the two courier bugs in Bellhart alwasy crack me up when I hear them.
It's amazing how fast the dev team lost the goodwill they had gathered.
Doesn't anyone think that given the immense and incredible variety of insects to take inspiration from, the enemies and characters are not that varied?
lads, I am pleased to announce I have 100%ed the gameit's been an honor and a pleasure beating it with youFUCK bilewater by the way
>>720680814bibbidi bappidi
>>720680671>and the dynamic they set up for her and hornet at the end is a good setup for moreThere's barely a dynamic. It was weird to see Lace taunting Hornet in Deep Docks, taunting her again 10 hours later, then taunting her again 20 hours later before dying. It feels like the game wanted me to think there's this heavy narrative connection between Hornet and Lace and Grandma Silk but there just isn't imo.
>>720679794soundtrack was good, I only really feel this way about the story
>>720680553Note that he deals 3 DAMAGE PER HITthe only other enemy to do this is GMS
>>720679794I knew this was my GOTY when I heard the Marrow soundtrack in the lower half where you see the graveyard of Pharloom through which lava rivers flow, you are hit with a track that would fit 40k and it's just the area after the tutorial section and starter village, basically the forgotten crossroads
>>720680815They haven't?
>>720680578you can get up to +3 at that stageone oil is from a quest, one can be accessed from whispering vaults
Caretaker says i need a "rune o searing silk" where the fuck is that. I already have "Rune Rage" but i guess that doesn't count?
>>720680578there are 2 oils: One is for a super long tedious fetch quest and one is free for grabs coming in from the archives
AHOOOOOYAHOOOOOYAHOOOOOYAHOOOOOYAHOOOOOY
>>720680905the dynamic at the end of the game is that they're former rivals who are now basically joined at the hip. they're two people that don't mesh well together but now they have to because lace relies on hornet to keep her alive. it's a good setup for a future story.
>>720680847yes I do agree with thisfeels like there should be a spider town world, with houses in the ceiling and shit and caterpillar woods and what not
Goty. I would adjust some difficulty and design in general but in general its the bestbgame of thebyear by far, you can tell it really did take 7 years to make. 3 people team, crazy scope
>>720679794i loved the wisp thicket theme
>>720679794>not loving Cogwork CoreKiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiill yourself
>>720679794I thought I was going insane when I wasn't noticing the soundtrack, but when I stop to listen it's actually greatthen I found out why... Hornet's moans were completely driving the focus away from the music for me! I turned them off and found myself enjoying the soundtrack almost as much as HK
>>720680847Not really. Even though there are some varitions of most bugs. There are still a couple of hundred of them. There is a lot of variation.
Starting act 3 and I have to say, I should've trusted my own instincts more. Early in the game I thought to myself "huh the chapel keeper and the enclave keeper are kinda like snail shamans but for Silksong, so maybe they're not too trustworthy" and what do you fucking know..
thread themehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AYKHIN-l8c
>>720680689Hell yeah
>>720679794lower the volume of everything but the musicit's way too quiet honestly
>>720681030theres a third one for beating all the flea games
>>720680773Yes in terms of damage increase you'll need to do one of those two things, there is also a tool that can make your Silk Skill more powerful but it's in a late game area that requires you have all your movement skills.Cogworks Core's Gauntlet isn't the worst thing in the world although you should bring tacks and probably thread storm. I'd go with it first personally.Gourmand's Quest is pretty late into Act 2, like that tool I mentioned you'll need all your movement skills to get one of the ingredients. Another ingredient is locked behind admittedly a pretty easy boss and a third ingredient is behind an enemy gauntlet which can be annoying (how are you with Hunter's March's enemies?). There's also this game's equivalent of delicate flower's quest as part of Gourmand's Quest but it's not as bad. So yeah, it's a pretty full on quest, really only one ingredient's remotely free.
>>720680847Yes, most enemies look like generic whatever bugs.
where's the best place to farm rosaries? I've beaten the final boss but I still have like 1k rosaries worth of shit to buy from vendors
am i the only one who enjoyed the adds bosses and the arenas where there's a ton of enemies? it feels really satisfying when your evading all of them with hornet's movement while getting hits in>>720679794nah, i thought the soundtrack was great. shellwood, songclave, bonebottom, bellhart, bilewater and mount fay were just a few that stood out for me
>>720679465Thankfully this game is not developed by reddit.
>>720681113don't be racist, anon
>>720681143I'm disappointed there wasn't an avalanche sequence in the game, they have two separate lava escape sequences but couldn't do one for an avalanche (or hell even a landslide)?
Behold the normalfag bilewater experience.>5 masks>doesn't clawline to avoid the maggots>keeps running into the swamp bugs>doesn't use the mosquitoes to cure maggots then heal>forces the gauntlet + boss>rages like a bitchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqIIOyhlgfA
>>720681127This is my response when people ask why my clear times are so long
>sequel is about spiders>this fucker isn't the final bossReeeeeeee
>>720681228the Gourmand's quest sounds like fucking hell.Dissapointed with how this game handled exploration and rewards
>>720681246I love them too. I really like the movement aspect of the game of bouncing between enemies. With how elaborate and agile the movement of the game is, I feel like the game really benefits from having lots of enemies working together. It's also kind of fun to work with crowd control, to gather or split enemies apart.
it baffles me that you schizos are still talking about this unfinished game.
>>720679465>What if GTA V but with bugsEither stick with a well realized character, or go home.
>>720679798She is such a literal who that I cope by saying she's just weak because of endlessly using silk for Lace
>courier rasher destroyedchat how do I cheese this?
>>720681357I kinda feel like this boss was cut for being too real-lifey. Pretty much no bug outside of centipedes look like their real life counterpart and instead look heavily stylized with the focus on that mask look
>>720680214If you return to the High Halls gauntlet, you will have to fight two strong guys at the same time in the same arena, but there's a reward behind them if you bother to do that fight it's a harp relic
I decided to boot up Hollow Knight and have a gander at the Deepnest.The architecture isn't at all like anything in Pharloom, with the exception of that in some areas you can see the spools of silk in Deepnest the same way they're everywhere in Pharloom>>720681357Who's that?
>>720681681kill everything on the way back then deliver it without resting
Is getting infected/cursed ending required for Act 3?
>>720679798>silk can control beings>silk can reveal hidden memories>silk can be spun into runes to cast magicin what way is it really that different?
>>720681246Most of the early game ones weren't too bad. I actually enjoyed the High Halls gauntlet because I got very far my first try. The Deep Docks gauntlet behind the locked door can go suck ten thousand nigger dicks though. Insanely anti-fun. I had to take a break and have a smoke to calm down because I was legit raging.
she's such a fucking chuuni, I love her
This is the worst goddamn enemy in the game
>>720681246Some I was alright with, others not so much.> ForgebrothersWhile I don't mind the fight when its both brothers, the ads are annoying especially cause I fought the boss in Act 3 (I'm not sure if they could be fought earlier) so the ads were voiding out and became even more annoying.> Savage BeastflyFirst one sucks, the randomness of which ads you're going to get spawned in addition to how two of them just become invulnerable for periods of time is really annoying, if it was just the little Beastflies I wouldn't mind, would make for an interesting pogo-focused boss.Second one's honestly fine imo, Thread Storm can kill the magma spitting ads quite easily and the more open arena makes SB more manageable in terms of dodging.> GroalI honestly don't mind his fight, the pre-gauntlet is one of the easiest in the game and his ads are courteous enough to fuck off once they've done their attack, I'm glad the main fight doesn't spawn those explosive squits (or maybe I just got lucky and didn't encounter them).> High HallsIf it wasn't for the silk-stealing robot spiders this fight would be peak, I do wish they didn't just make it two of the clappers as the final round though, felt really lazy.I haven't gotten to Karmelita or Khann fights yet which I hear have pre-boss gauntlets so I can't weigh in on those. Anything else I don't think is substantial enough to make note of, I guess the first gauntlet in Act 3, the one during the second concussion episode can be a bit scary cause you're forced to use Hunter with no tools.
>>720681768no
>>720679794Bilewater, Lace, Widow and Phantom are the standouts for me.Especially Bilewater.
>>720681386the game actually opens up pretty fast : once you get clawline you have about 90% of the map theoretically open to you
why does this game love to waste your time?
>>720681820>While I don't mind the fight when its both brothers, the ads are annoying especially cause I fought the boss in Act 3 (I'm not sure if they could be fought earlier) so the ads were voiding out and became even more annoying.You can fight them in act 2, having to fight them with void adds sounds like a terrible time
Got what I think is the first ending.Hollow Knight used to suffer from a minor problem of potentially lousy story pacing, in the sense that if you choose to explore and get lost in the map then the pacing of the story will suffer. Like you kill the three dreamers, spend 20h exploring the entirety of Hallownest and in the meantime forget the actual story, and by the time you go back to the Black Egg the story doesn't land because you've mostly forgotten.Same problem with Silksong except 5x more egregious. I last met Lace when I arrived in the choral chambers, spent about 20 hours exploring the entire map. Then when I finally went up to the Cradle, I really couldn't give a shit about Lace drama because it's unironically been a week since I've seen her. And then the final boss just appeared out of nowhere and disappeared after 2 minutes. Couldn't care less. The presentation of Lace and the final boss and the suggested dynamics seem cool but it's just... barely there? Like maybe 0.5% of my playtime was permeated with story stuff.
>>720681869You're playing a video game you retard
>>720681015Its in Atla, talk to Eva.
>>720681869"gamer"dad moment
>>720679362Next MC is Punished "Venom" Sherma, a holy bug denied his congregation
i got all 3 music sheets. should i go and take the elevator or explore the slab and mount fay
>>720679794I really like Deep Docks.
holy fuck can this last boss END already
>>720681816Verdania deserved to be wiped out.
>>720681816nvm just beat the area teehee :3c
>>720681869It's the Tears of the Kingdom of Hollow Knight
>>720681912Someone's been neglecting the needolin.
>>720681993It doesn't end at the elevator so whatever. Mt. Fay has a very good reward at the top, you may want to consider that first.
>>720681985protect himhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGpXlJ3r8SE
>>720681912lace needed to be more present throughout the game in general imoI feel like her dynamic with hornet needs a lot of time and development, it really isn't like the knight and hornet where both are stoic bugs on their own quests
This is Shakra.How does such a powerful voice come out of such a cute face?
>>720681912this hits twice as much when you completely skip the first lace fight like i did. If you get to bellhart without fighting her, she'll just have a quick non-combat encounter with you
>>720681386>pogo jump on enemies dodging spikes>avoid respawning exploding mooks on the way up>constantly making tricking aereal manouvers to dodge stage hazzards>go through an arena gaunlet where i have to fight waves of primal vespids with bloated health bars>finally make it to that golwin spot at that hard to reach corner of the map>it's another fucking rosary worth a few hundred beads>realize every single item in this game is paywalled behind shops
If there's something I enjoy after losing a boss fight is having to listen to this faggot nigger baby crying as I change my strat, love TC so much bros
>Girl made of thread and evil thread entitySoooo it's just Kill la Kill?
reminder that lace and hornet are both super straight and hornet will just have lace marry the knight and they will have millions of freak kids made out of void but woven into the shape of bugs
>Finally beat Widow>Go outside>mfw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNbFtCd_DAI just stopped playing for like five minutes holy shit Christopher Larkin has been cooking
>>720681306>check his channel>soulsfag>check that peeve guy who has been stuck on beastfly all day>soulsfagDark Souls has rotted people's minds which is very stupid because Dark Souls encourages you to use all of your tools and explore and try different approaches to things. It has created a legion of retards that play games by brute forcing them with as few tools as possible except none of them have the skills to do this comfortably so they bash their heads against the wall because that is hardcore and epic. I guess this is an easy way to farm content.
>>720682134Take it to the root bitch.
Hornet dabbing on the retards who still think vessels were empty automatons.
>>720681912GMS is entirely presented through in game lore and context clues so otherwise you get nbothing on her otherwise.I do agree with your take on Lace but I feel that isn't the case with GMS since her presence is felt constantly. Everyone always talking about the bad shit waiting at the top of the Citadel and the effects she's had on everything and everyone.
>>720682134>waaah this game is too hard huh faggot, grow some fucking ballsis what the baby is telling you
>>720679794the music is too similar to itself; Hollow Knight was more varied in instrumentation and genre
>>720682103>koopowitzWhere are Shakra's big khazar milkers?
>>720681889It was pain, I'm just glad the brothers themselves can't void out, once I got to the phase with both brothers it was very enjoyable. But yeah I really don't like that void makes the little shield guy super tanky (gotta pray he gets close to one of the lava falls for me to knock his ass in otherwise) and the flyer is just the worst cause you never know what sort of void out he has (three shot, tentacles, big blades or small blades).
>>720681985sperma
>>720682103look awful, prefer shakra
>>720682230That's a great bit of art.
>>720681807SameShame we have to kill her
>>720679794Cogwork Core is great
forth chorus had such a great theme for a shitter bosshis fight was pretty cool too now that I think about it
>>720682239DO NOT TRANSLATE
>>720679798Speaking of higher beings, were there any other ones besides GMS? Did she kill the previous gods? Was the land a literal shithole no higher veing wanted to settle in or compete over?
>>720682186>and then the track gets absolutely obliterated in the third act
>>720682193>"I hate my dad. Have I mentioned that already? Because I really fucking hate my dad."
>>720681820>If it wasn't for the silk-stealing robot spiders this fight would be peakGood news, there's a way to stop those from spawning there's a room with a pram/trolley that you can move by hitting it which can be moved underneath a hidden ceiling opening, leading to an area where the device creating the silk suckers is
>>720681985Based
>>720679362ENTER
>>720679794Did I become a zoom zoom? I'm playing the game while listening to music or watching a podcast
Who are these guys and how do I get to them?
>>720682186the bells are so fucking good man
Sands of Karak is way harder than Mount Faycan I only explore The Slab after getting the key / captured?
>>720679798her silk is both her soul and silk, she technically made her own dream realm (it sucks)
>>720682193they make that pretty clear in hollow knight where none of the vessels were truly hollow but I guess some people took it the wrong way
>>720681306>doesn't use the mosquitoes to cure maggots then healWait what?
>>720679597At least it's largely* actual discussion and not like the gacha generals or AI generals where faggots just jack off the whole time
>>720682062What a horrible fucking area jesus
Nice stun
>>720682398they're at random ore deposit spots acting as mimics
If Silksong ever gets some kind of boss rush mode (though that would open up a can of worms of its own) would you want Hornet to fight him?
>>720682398They are hidden around the map as those shard rocks you find in the environment.I think they are common in The Marrow. I remember I completed theie entry there.
>>720682270prefer the one where hornet fingers Shakra through her suit
>>720682397>while listening to music or watching a podcastI'm sorry, it's terminal.
>>720681912I do think it would've been interesting if we'd seen Lace more throughout the game, akin to the interactions we have with Shakra, Garmond and alike. Like I get she's meant to guard the Citadel but there are certainly some areas I think would've benefitted from her presence and hell it would've been cool at least to see her sort of acting as a leader to some of the bosses we fight (maybe she calls on Silk to force a boss to fight Hornet). I think Wormways, Blasted Steps & High Halls could've all benefitted from an interaction with her and maybe have her presence be felt similar to Shakra's by having killed enemies around Shellwood and Greymoor and have her outright show up in Choral Halls akin to Garmond & Second Sentinel either summoning some of the enemies for the player to fight or killing non-hostile pilgrims.
>>720681807so what was her deal, was she one of the weavers hinted at in the cradle?
>>720682120>skip the first lace fightWHAT???
>>720682513Hold up you can FIGHT this guy in Act 3?
>>720682517no, a fight could never match the aura
>>720682516>>720682526They respawn? Good to knowBut was asking who the empty slots were forI found the sandcarvers while waiting for replies but I have no clue where the "squirm" next to it is
>Lost Lace>projectile spam>contact damage
>>720680484I really want to fight an ascended version of this guy. The boss was fun and beautifully animated but too easy.
>>720682517the way the ending is set up, i kinda dont wanna fight him. I just want them to go the obvious route and do a fucked up voided granny
>>720679794Just because you didn't notice them immediately doesn't mean they're bad. You think I was jamming to Broken Vessel after my first playthrough? After a few replays I'm sure it'll be remembered just as fondly as Hollow Knight's
>>720682465The mosquitoes in bilewater respawn indefnitely. Just farm them for silk bro.
karmelita shut the door
>>720681228>there is also a tool that can make your Silk Skill more powerful but it's in a late game area that requires you have all your movement skills.Including super jump?
>>720682517he will never live up to the hype just leave him alone
>>720682517What about a fight against the knight just as he was during HK1? If you could foght pure vessel, I don't see why not, even if it would be a bit fanservice-ish
>>720682234>pray he gets close to one of the lava fallsYou can bait him by standing near them. Granted, it's risky because there are other things to dodge and it removes a possible direction of escape, but it's the best way to remove him quickly
>>720682648this, holy fuckespecially after the scream in phase twoand she loses a lot of vulnerable parts after attacks because she submerges
>>720682734Oh that. I thought you meant there was some weird interaction where they cleared the maggots if they hit you
>>720679794Really? Mount Fay, Bellhart, Widow, and First Sinner stood out to me
>>720682614>get the dash>get the key>fuck off to wormways without ever going deeper into docks or ever getting the glider>enter bellheart through shellwood and encounter Lace at the entrance teasing you>skip early moorwing without fleas in the same breathi have an affinity for finding the most "wrong" route if i can help it
In act 3 I was kinda disappointed by the Abyss. I thought it would be more hostile and alien and fucked up to non-Void organisms like Hornet. The escape sequence was cool though.
>>720678980the juggle flea game is the only hard one
I hate Hunter's March gauntlet, I hate it, I loathe it. Not giving up yet but I fucking hate this gauntlet more than Greymoor's.
>>720681386The gourmand quest is like, the most fun quest in the entire game. I love it.
>>720682298>four legsthree vaganias.
>>720682641the squirms are in a hidden room close to the bellstation, some breakable wall in that long shaft area with the thief salesman if i remember correctly. You have to play music to bait them out of the sand. They're juvenile versions of those judge enemies
I am at the point in the game where I'm tired of the combat and just want to finishing the remaining story, so I spam poison cogflies.
At what point should I be able to clear Bilewater and The Mist? I'm pretty sure I'm about to trigger Act 3 but want to try and clear everything else I can beforehand, I have all three melodies. I feel like they are the only two areas that I haven't fully explored yet, but I don't think I can progress any further in Bilewater without a double-jump and The Mist just feels like some pointless loop I need some key item to properly navigate. There's apparently some place I haven't accessed since getting Clawline, I was told I was missing a crest I can acquire with it in another thread. I don't know, maybe I'm a brainlet but the pacing and direction feels like it really fell apart during Act 2 and I don't really know where else to go now without ascending further in the Citadel.
>>720682517Honestly nah cause it'd probably end up too similar to stuff like Phantom, Lace & First Sinner. I think it'd be cool if we got a Vespa fight or at the very least a fight against like Ze'mer, Dryya or Isma
>>720682193Would Hornet recognize my AI girlfriend?
Just got to act 3. This game is so fucking fun bros, it's definitely my GOTY. Literally just Hollow Knight but better
Act 3 sucks and I am tired of pretending otherwise, you could do all these "bosses of realms past" levels by giving us a dream needolin upgrade
>>720682937>hornet>non void
>>720682637This. Fighting previous protagonists very rarely lives up to expectations. We all know it'd end up being screen pollution cancer: the boss anyway
>>720683061how do you get the poison skill?
>>720683098If you put off ANYTHING to do in act 3, it will be much, MUCH worse for you. This includes all pre-existing gauntlets.
>>720679794Bilewater mogs every HK soundtrack
I beat the game but forgot while I was gathering what the lore explanation for what is happening was.-hornet drops silk into void snare-void takes over because silk is clinging to life to keep lace alive-hornet takes lace from her to get her to finally die to set pharloom freeWho actually is silk? I have no idea why she did what she did, or why she suddenly cares about lace now. Also how is killing silk with void cutting pharloom free, surely it would just get more powerful and encroach on pharloom faster?
>>720683129that's what they did
>be Hornet >Say pale beings only allow 2 fates: devotion or destruction>Meanwhile in Hallownest where 2 (two) pale beings rule>Mantis, Bees, Unn alive and independent through treaties or just causeWhat did she mean by this?
>>720682578I think so.
>>720682641The squirm is hidden in a small area in the vertical connection between Blasted Steps and Sands of Karak (opposite of the vendor). You will see them for a moment before they hide in the sand, but you can play the needolin near them to make them appear.
>>720683191White guilt.
>>720683098you can clear the mist with what you have now, there's no itemalso you need an upgrade to complete bilewater which you can also get right now so go explore more
>>720682103she cute
>>720683169The pollip flower side quest you get in shellwood
DLC for this nigga WHEN
>>720682578She sided with silk when all the other weavers either revealed or ran
>>720683129>dream needolin upgradeAre we still talking about Silksong? They literally gave you that
>>720683098double jump is accessible to you right now
Sidequests have been a chore so far, what went wrong?
>>720683187Didn't need a third act and artificial difficulty by slapping void on mobs for that
>>720683292the mention the area by name in the cradle and he was shown in early looks at the game so I'm sure he'll be one of the DLCs at least
>>720683204>but you can play the needolin near them to make them appear.I tried this and they never do, I just used tacs to kill them
>>720681179Not in Act 2
Bros, I need help... I'm close to finish silksong and I don't know what to do nextShould I grab space marines 2 before the sale ends? Hade 2 is releasing in 10 day too.
>most interesting part of the game is memberberries from HK and a tiny ass piece of lore about the pale king
>>720683242>>720683378Alright, I'll keep exploring. Thanks.
>>720683446they need 3 or 4 silk bars of needolin so you have to go with more than the minimum
>>720683549what a bunch of assholes
before high halls gauntlet: meh shakra is whatever, i miss corniferafter high halls gauntlet: thanks for carrying me mommy
Do you need to do literally every side quest to unlock Act 3? I only have two left (gather 10 fine pins, kill a bunch of enemies using 3 different methods).
>>720679794>no one mentioned whispering vaults themeB-but the Dark Souls nostalgia...https://youtu.be/CDAuas3fO8A
>>720683663If it shows up on the board, you need to do it.
>>720683606How do you get her to do that? I solo'd that.
>>720683176>surely it would just get more powerful and encroach on pharloom faster?pretty sure void is fairly inert : it's nothing like rain's world void which will inevitably eat the world
only 73%??????????????????????? fuck that i'm not going for 100 great game though
>>720679638Haven't seen anything
>>720683176Silk is a Higher Being like Pale King, Radiance, etc. She sought to have children and so created the Weavers by uplifting Pharlids (those little spider enemies that walk on the walls and attack with a flurry of strikes). Silk lied to the Weavers saying that they were her children, however the Weavers figured out that Silk was lying to them and left Pharloom. Silk attempted to fill the hole left by the Weavers leaving by creating artificial children made purely from Silk (Lace & Phantom, I think there might've been others but we know of those two). Silk sought to bring the Weavers back to Pharloom, to harvest their Silk (whether this was because she couldn't produce Silk herself or something else I'm not entirely sure) and at the very least this worked against Widow (I'm not sure what the deal with First Sinner is since she's not being controlled by Silk), this is why Silk captures Hornet.Silk at the very least intended to use Hornet's Silk to allow Lace to continue living, however from what I understand Lace misinterpreted the capture of Hornet as Silk wanting to replace Lace with Hornet as a daughter. Silk's actions seem to largely be influenced by wanting to provide for Lace, although Lace is likely unaware as Silk doesn't communicate this properly. What's rather baffling is during that final fight, Silk is defeated and decides to try to pull Hornet into the Void with her, even though that would leave Lace without any means of surviving as eventually the Silk in Pharloom would run out.
>>720683606I always liked Cornifer. But I fucking love Shakra.
>>720683606I haven't gotten her or the guy on the mount to show up in any fights yet.
>>720683606She didn't appear for me, so it's still Cornifer ftw.Also, she isn't your mommy, don't be retarded.
>>720679794Well, I for one loved the music in Bilewater
>>720683696Make sure you do her quest. To unlock her quest you buy every map she sells, which means track down Shakra in all the areas she appears in.
>>720683663you also need to get a house and have the fleas move to their last location
>>720683735I didn't like her until she totally saved me during the ant gauntlet
>>720683637They're just helping you prepare for the Nu-Flukes in Abyss anon
>>720683696You complete her entire questline before doing the gauntlet.
>>720683606>mommyHornet is older than she is
KINO!
>>720683708My completion was 98% by the time I got my ending. So I only had to postgame for 2%. Have you been rushing through the game or something?
>>720683765Garmond's supposed to show up for the Moorwing fight, but won't if you skipped the fight via Flea Caravan
>>720682361>that guy sitting next to elrondliterally the first time i noticed him, who the fuck is that?
>>720683176silk always cared about lace, grandma silk legitimately wanted children and after the betrayal of the weavers she made her out of silk simply to have a far deeper connection with her than any bug. While she was able to control things with her silk she was sealed by the weavers so she was either unaware or unable to do anything about how lace thought of her and her chief concern was trying to find another silk producer to keep lace alive.The void only leaks out because its travelling along her silk which is also her soul, the ending presumeably either has her cut the lines willingly or is using all of her silk for hornet to escape with lace.
>>720683606I don't often believe in the, "You didn't finish the game" cope that get spouted about. But you didn't finish the game, anon, go back and do it right.
>>720683909I didn't skip it though, I just beat Moorwing on my own without any help lol
the nail arts in this game are beyond useless
>>720683912Eldleft. you don't see him but there's another guy offscreen named Eldright
>>720683663I am pretty sure you don't. I could dive through my screenshots but I'm all but certain I had incomplete wishes by the time I got the quest. I didn't even know the quest had some odd requirements that people seem to struggle with.
In my restless dreams,I see that town.Silent Hill.You promised me you'd take methere again someday.But you never did.Well, I'm alone there now...In our 'special place'...Waiting for you...Waiting for you tocome to see me.
>>720683820Who thought that was a good idea, I didn't get Shakra's quest until well after I'd done High Halls, High Halls is one of the first late Act 2 areas most players will go to since it's in the Citadel like Cogworks Core and Whispering Vaults. I'm pretty sure Shakra's quest doesn't show up until you've gotten all the maps from her.
>>720683956
>>720683974Actually anon. You didn't beat the game. You missed valuable character development and a unique interaction.
>>720683892i didn't feel like grinding for rosaries or the bestiary, but i'm pretty sure i got all the bosses and fleas.
>>720684012I found the deflect useful in some of the fights where enemies like to spam silk attacks.
>>720681040the fact we need a future story to salvage a nonexistent character is more than enough to communicate how failed of a concept she was at her conception.
Just found out you can yell PUSHANKA as Hornet...just how many silly interactions are there?
That was alot easier than I figured it'd be
>>720684005Then I got no idea sorry, I accidentally skipped Moorwing on my save, so I have no idea what normal Greymoor is meant to be like.
Nah, I'm taking a break. Lost Lace phase 3 and 4 are dogshit.
HORNET NOOO NOT THE COGFLY
>>720684092This is just lace coping with the fact that she can't sustain herself. But it wasn't Silk's intention for either of them to fade.
>>720683191does she say "pale" or "higher" beings?god seekers called them higher, the pale being were just a few of them, Umm was also a higher being but wasn't a pale being
>>720684101lalala can't hear you.
>>720684134now do that without quit loads
Are there really humans now?
>>720683912No idea. But you can still tell he’d rather be anywhere else.
>>720684235no
>>720684105>i didn't feel like grinding for rosaries or the bestiaryI never did either. Got 98% without doing it. Haven't started grinding the bestiary until now like the last couple of hours right now.
>>720684235>falling for the HMOFAjeets
>Think Shaman crest feels bad>Get Pale NailsI get it now
>>720683191Hornet is permanently in seethe mode about pale beings because she's mad at the Pale King for what he did to all his sons.
>>720683734Only some Weavers left, others put Silk to sleep and ruled the kingdom, according to Mask Maker.
>the game is once again urging me to go back to Bilewater to get to another area of the mapYou can tell the devs are proud of this shitty area by how many times your forced to backtrack through it.
>>720678980who is the Charlie Kirk of Silksong?
>>720684162Don't give up, anon! I had a hard time with her until I realized something: USE THE FUCKING CLAWLINE FOR DAMAGE
>>720683734there's a secret area in terminus with a bunch of cages identical to the one you start the game in, so she was successful in capturing and using weavers a bunch of times
I was unsure about Hornet as a protagonist before, but she worked splendidly well this game
>>720684356zanzibart
>>720684375>clawing into AoE void attacksI don't think so.
>>720683176>>720683734Adding on with regards to void. The reason the Void encroaches on Pharloom is because Silk is somewhat able to control it, enough at least to keep it from completely destroying her and Lace. Void is certainly dangerous but it lacks the focus and direction to do anything on its own, it's only when Void given form that it can actually get shit done. It's why The Knight is so powerful, because with the Void Heart it is able to direct the Void, it's the same reason Pale King used Void to make the Kingsmould because with direction they were the most powerful warriors for the Kingdom prior to the Vessels. Silk is the one in Silksong giving the Void form by focusing her haunting through it, it's also why when an enemy Voids out they become so much more dangerous because they're giving Void a form to focus their power through, same applies for the Void Masses and both Lost Garmond and Lost Lace.
Saved Grol and Savage Beastly for last and they weren't too bad. NOW WHERE THE FUCK ARE THOSE FLEAS AAAAIIIIEEEEEE
Where do I get the "wingmould" enemy? They are the only one I am missing
>>720684432She has a cooldown animation for every aerial attack she does. You have to take the chances you have and wait if the field is still too busy with her traps.
>>720684356Pilby
>>720684384Yeah, I'm still wondering, were some of those cages referring to Widow and First Sinner. If not, do we ever see any dead weavers that could be those Silk had captured (it would be interesting although this is purely headcanon, that when a Weaver's own silk is completely drained, they just revert back to a Pharlid).
i love that the cogflies have a special animation when getting pulled up by the barnacles
Was Phantom fightable before act 3? I distinctly remember reaching the Exhaust Organ in act 2 and not finding her anywhere
>>720684496>NOW WHERE THE FUCK ARE THOSE FLEAS AAAAIIIIEEEEEEThere's a flea NPC you can find that sells maps of flea locations
>the fixer from bone bottom is still alive along with some peopleAh, good to see I was right in re-exploring the entire map in act 3.
>>720684583I love when I change rooms and the fly in from off-screen in the wrong direction
So if (or maybe when) Silksong gets its Boss Gauntlet mode, do you think any bosses will get a Sisters of Battle/Winged Nosk treatment and which NPCs could you see going the way of Mato, Oro, Sheo & Sly and getting their own battles (my money's on Seamstress).
>>720684610shes reachable as early as act 1
i'm in act 3 nowdo the developers have something against Bonebottom? they keep destroying it and mass murdering all the bugs there. christ, give them a break
>>720682103You'd be surprised at how deep and husky a woman's is or can get.It's pure sexo.
>>720684235Hornet marries one at the end of act 4.
>>720684610Yes, in fact you can fight Phantom in Act 1. Did you get to the room with the big piano she's playing?
>>720684162yeah im doing it again since i decided fuck it ill do all the bosses i missed and do the funny mushroom quest and that phase is supremely annoying, just attack vomit
>>720684631where anon? I never saw him
>>720684696Destroying the starter town is a classic video game trope.
This fight could have been fun but the 3 gaunlets before it ruin it.
>>720684631I found out when I saw the delivery guys in bellhart had a package for them
>>720684742He's in the marrow, there's a new bench close to him.
>>720684696It was meant to be a temporary encampment for Pilgrims, it's not intended as a permanent settlement, I'm sure before Hornet arrived the place had probably been trampled to death by Skull Tyrant a dozen times over and new pilgrims just arrive and rebuild.
>>720684652both sisters at the same time. maybe all three, in a dream
>>720684092Technically that's Phantom speaking (since they're referring to Lace).And both Lace and Phantom were clearly not aware that Silk truly gave a shit. Lace especially.I'm genuinely upset we don't get unique dialogue for entering act 2 through the Phantom route. Feels Lace should acknowledge we killed her last sibling.
>>720684742where the flea camp started out in the Marrow
>>720684631I'm still sad that I didn't save Pilby. Apparently, he doesn't die if you do the Skull Tyrant quest during act 2, but I'm not replaying the entire game so soon just to confirm that.
>>720684807I beat this one first try and I am a real shitterThe coral tower was easy
>>720684841Both sisters? Do you mean Lace & Phantom, if not who and whose the third?
>>720684195She explicitly says pale beings.
>>720684807you didn't see the stalactite?
>>720684558>Weaver, in eighth part, last of their line, frail with age. Tracked and taken in Sandsea Waste.>Weaver, in eighth part, last of their line, mortally wounded. Tracked and taken in the Blackbarrens.>Weaver, in quarter part, last of their line, stacked to service. Tracked and taken beneath the City of Steel.
>>720684807Felt too easy, I oneshotted it. Even the enraged coral twin was harder for me
>>720684807Destroy the red stalactite after gauntlet 3 and you just have to do the fourth one in case you need to repeat it.
NIGGA WHERE THE FUCK IS THIS ENEMY?I HAVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 65 HOURS JUST LET ME GET 100% AND CONFRONT THE VOID MAN
>>720684828>I'm sure before Hornet arrived the place had probably been trampled to death by Skull Tyrant a dozen times over and new pilgrims just arrive and rebuild.I'm pretty sure it's this bug in particular who's been rebuilding it all his life.
>>720684864I fail to see how when you do it changes anything.I had to kill 2 of those fucks.
>>720684807they're easy + you get a shortcut fag
>>720684652Lace 3 with mother in the background is my choice
>>720684864Is this real? I thought he always died and the only thing you could miss, is learning his name.
>>720684610Act 1 bosses: Moss MotherBell BeastLace 1Fourth ChorusMoorwingSister SplinterWidowLast JudgeMoss Mother x2Savage Beastfly (both)Skull Tyrant (both)Great ConchfliesPhantom
>>720684910He probably means the Pinmaster sisters. The one that trains you and the one that makes your float cloak. No idea who's the third though.
How do I get back up into whiteward from here? I don't want to walk all the way over to the choral chambers
>the gauntlet in the High Halls>Shakra shows up out of nowhere as an allyfucking kino
>>720680424sexo or killing, pick oneprobably both
>>720684910the pin ladies, seamstress and her 2 siblings
Is this the end-endI'm still at 91% completion and have shit to do
>>720678980In what region do I find the entrance to Heart of the Woods? I was poking around Shellwood and accidentally did the egg quest and got stuck with a shitty weapon and my patience is running out.
>>720684950uhh retardbro, you don't need to complete that for 100%
>>720684807the gauntlet is part of the fight, even then they give you a shortcut
>>720684950this looks like either the floating enemies during the climb or the ones at the surface
>>720684864I'm not sure where Pilby went. They didn't die during the Skull Tyrant, but they also aren't anywhere else on the map.
>>720681296snails commit most of the crimes
Is there a shortcut here?
>>720679362Lace doesn't need another game, but she does need more screentime in Silksong. Her underlying arc is cool, but understanding any of it requires too much lore autism right now for the final confrontation to be compelling. They just need to make her show up more earlier in the game so that normal players give more of a shit about her before act 3. Not even fights, just some kind of presence.
>>720684990You're confusing him with Pilby, and Pilby can be saved too.
I never used the quick focus + deep focus combo much in HK. But I find multibinder and injector really good.
>>720685040yes but you can also just load back in and continue doing shit like in hollow knight
>>720683956The thing I'm still unclear on is when exactly Silk made Lace, Phantom, and the rest. Was it while she was cocooned somehow?
>>720684814>>720684858oh nice, thought he died for sure
>>720685040ya that's the very end
>>720685043grand gatedon't feel bad it was fucking bullshit to begin with
>>720685093If you save Pilby, you can find him later in Far Fields camp. The one you have to pay every time to enter. Not sure if he's in act 3 though.
>>720685060I have fought every boss available before entering the last room with the heartsI have found every crest, ability, mask, spool, tool, crest notch, and other collectable itemIf I only get 100% once I defeat the final boss that is whatever, but I need to tie up every loose end before the point of no return
Just beat first sinner and my senile ass brain completely forgot about the harpoon so I spent the entire fight chasing her down with the dash/sprintAbsolute KINO fight
I'm getting fucking raped by Lost Lace
>>720685134>>720685142k thanksHere we go one last push
>>720685023there's an elevator hereish
>>720684930Yeah so I'm thinking Widow is the third one, at least given the "stacked to service" bit, I'm not sure if First Sinner really fits either of the other two, and Hornet I don't know if she's "Weaver, in eighth part" like at the very least half of her isn't Weaver but we don't know how diluted Herra was, so maybe she is. That being said unless Hornet is "frail with age" I don't really see her being one of the three mentioned.
>First playthrough took 53 hoursIt really shouldn't have taken me this long but I constantly get sidetracked
So when you guys were talking about a cbt timed sequence, you meant the escape from the abyss, right? There isn't anything else like that, right?
>>720685043Not the areas you thinkThere is a tall shaft in a room where an elevator once fell
>>720685180You can break the cog once you're inside and the door is always open.
>>720685257based
>>720679362>comfy game about building a happy bug village>starring Sherma
>>720685257far fields has short one
>>720684652>Sisters of Battle/Winged Nosk treatmentMaybe an actual Khann fight without the gauntlet will be balanced around an expanded moveset. Also, I'm pretty sure there's already a dual boss conchfly fight that's just waiting to be added to the game.>NPCs could you see going the way of Mato, Oro, Sheo & SlyVog the Flea Hunter doesn't have a fight yet.
>>720685015>>720685034If so whose the third, there's Seamstress and Pinstress which fair enough but tmk there's no third -stress character.
>>720685257no there's one in far fields that's just after a miniboss
>Lost my first steel soul run because I got cocky and fought the first craw gauntlet when I got thereI don't think I'm gonna make it...
>>720685156that was the one part of the game that really made me think it was bullshit lol
>>720685040if you beat it before 100% you'll have to beat it again to get the chievo
>>720684950you're quite possibly fuckedthat's the white palace critter during the red dream
>>720684950>>720685195that's an "enemy" you see during the cutscene where you give the snails the 3 hearts
>>720685205The fight's even better with Clawline, the flow in the fight is legit perfect
This guy was a problem.
>>720684950>>720685091It's the floating climb guys.Brotip: Take the shortcut up and throw tools at them while falling. If you hit thorns you'll spawn at the top so you can jump again. Way faster than trying to do it while going up.
>>720684652The Seamstress.
>>72067999439 and hopefully retired
>>720684952>I fail to see how when you do it changes anythingApparently, Pilby does the pilgrimage instead of staying in Bonebottom the whole time.
>>720685127That guy IS talking about Pilby, didn't know you could save him. Is there a reward? Cause honestly, his death was a highlight of the game for me.
>>720685257Anyone who thinks the Far Fields one is harder is crazy, the Abyss one is way more annoying.
>>720685315>there's no third stress character.You, the player.
>>720684952The Skull Tyrant attack on the village is a revenge attack for you killing its mate in the grand hunt wish. If you wait till act 2, Pilby has gained the courage to finally begin his pilgrimage so he won't be in the village at the time of the attack.
>>720685156I had a suspicion but missed whatever it was last time I went there. I’ll give it another sweep and see how bullshit it can be.
>>720685314Oh true I hadn't considered Vog, that'd be cool, if not I'd like to see Shakra's master get a fight, maybe as a memory fight ala Khann, Karmelita & Green Prince.Also yeah a proper Khann fight would be nice, his attacks are really boring, it's disappointing since he seems like a realized version of the King of Fools from HK.
>>720685298>>720685323The one after a gauntlet you have to stay on the walls? I did that in act 2.
Just started act iii. So did the snail family think that shit would just work or were they hoping for the total awful destruction of the kingdom
>>720685315I was under the impression that she's dead, but might be confusing her with someone else from another quest
>>720685314>Voggenius
>>720685314Oh also I'm confused by this "Dual Boss Conchfly" did we not already have that in Blasted Steps where you fight both, kill one and the survivor comes back later as Raging Conchfly in Sands of Karak, or do you mean having all that as a single fight?
so what do you think happened to the big hollow knight from the first game? did he just survive and live in hollownest afterwards
>>720683487I'd pirate both, you can finish all of Space Marine 2 in like two days if you aren't touching the multiplayer
There's literally nothing I can do against Lost Lace. She'll ready an attack in one direction and then immediately 180. What the fuck am I supposed to do when she's constantly diving into the abyss constantly and spouting abyss shit everywhere?
qrd on bilewater?
>>720685562Who's dead?
>>720685512
>>720685557they didn't account for the worst character ever acting like the worst character ever, if Lace hadn't interrupted everything Silk would've just died like a dog
>>720685557Snail Shamans are an untrustworthy bunch, and their motives are really hard to decipher. They seem to like casting dangerous spells without thinking much about any potential complications.
>>720685557once you talk to them again it'll be pretty clear
bros... how do i win against cheeky brats
Savage beastfly but 2 at the same time like mosquitos in HK
>>720685257timed? nahthere is a mini sort of path of pain for the last part of the mushroom man quest though
>>720685617imoit's hard if you don't find the benchit's not bad if you do
>>720685426No, all that happens is that he decides to start his pilgrimage and leaves town, thus saving his life, you see him later fine.
>>720685649yea and Hornet would die with her retard
>>720679794This. The OST was fucking forgettable slop. The ONLY tune that stood out was the clocktower theme, and that's only because it reminded me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSPCrPrepRE
Pale King and the Hollow Knight > Grandma Silk and Lacesorry
>>720685512>>720685634Hornet doesn't gain wings, that's part of her cloak, there is a jornal entry where she says she wanted to have wings as a child though.
>>720685237Thanks, I forgot all about it. It was a few days ago I went through here.
>>720685673Who is "cheeky brats"? Lace?
>>720685739
>>720685740There's an unironic anti-Lace schizo in these threads if anyone hasn't noticed yet.
>>720685512>>720685634>xtier slop
>>720685573>or do you mean having all that as a single fight?Yes, this is what I mean. I don't think it would be that much better, honestly, but all the pieces for a full dual raging conchfly fight are there.
>>720685740No cost too great
I got all the fleas, how do i unlock the minigame?
>>720685612you can bounce off of almost every attack she does except the one where she jumps in the air, and if she does she becomes vulnerable afterwards. also whenever she uses her void summoning attacks shes completely open. if you're stuck on her dash attack that leaves behind tendrils when she dashes just know that she always either dashs 3 times or dashes twice followed by a skyward slashing attack and you can bait either one depending on your position.
>>720685792And what happens to him in act 3?
>>720685813Draw it better then
just how many fleas are there
>>720685584we don't know
>>720685410am i taking crazy pills, i didn't have any trouble with the bosses, think the longest i spent on a boss was maybe 30 minutes on each karmelita and final lace but i jobbed super hard to all the platforming especially that kaizo endurance test up to get double jump and the flea dodge minigame
>>720685823I would be alright with that as long as the arena is fairly open, Raging Conchfly is such a crapshoot with the ads and the Conchflies projectiles in such a short arena.
I have Garmond in Songclave. How do I get him to duel me?
>>720684696It's punishment for spending too much time there instead of continuing the climb up to the citadel.
Rewards are terrible most of the time
>no buzzsaws in the memory white palace segmentc'mon now
>>720685843If you are in act 3 already, there's a quest in Belhart that starts the event.
This is like the fourth attempt at sexual assault I've seen so far
>>720685891Why would I waste my time on shipping shit art?
>>720685584he's the new vessel
>>720685889She/He/Whatever wasn't the first chef boss I fought who was stupidly hard for no good reason.
>i-is that a human man?>SEEEEEEXWhy are non-human females like this?
>>720679362WLW is good. Kill yourself moid.
>>720686096Never happened, HMOFAjeet
>>720686095>stupidly hardthey're a glorified mini-boss dude
>>720685749have you considered that it's just and beautiful and therefore none of what you say matters?
should I grind beads to buy all the stuff?
My back hurts from carrying this game
>>720685584he's training in the hyperbolic time chamber for 1000 years while all of silksong happened, we'll see him again as the star protag of the next game where he finds a reason to keep living
>there is taunt button
>>720686096Many such cases of this happening.
>>720686156Yeah, I'm just saying.
>>720686186Wanderer Crest...
sprinting huffing penis bug man
>>720685347I'm not touching Steel Soul until Silksong's equivalent of Godmaster comes out. I need to grind every single boss until I feel confident enough to make an attempt
RAPE
>>720686173Yes.
>>720686096where the fuck are people getting this thing about humans from?
>>720685421>>720685454...Oh.
>>720686323Just quit and reload before dying, bro.
>>720686371whats the point then?
>>720686324>Get jailed and forced naked by them>Complains about how much they stink>Probably had to endure being groped while they ripped off her cloakTeam Cherry just needs to make a h-game at this point
>>720679794Honestly I have the same opinion of the original HK too, a lot of music in that game just blends together for me aside from the boss themes.Similar case here but it also just feels like there isn't a song that hits like anything from an older metroidvannia like Super Metroid or Symphony of the Night. There didn't feel like a potent moment where the music and gameplay were married to deliver a neat, evocative moment like entering Lower Brinstar for the first time and the drop just hits right as you exit the lift. This plus there doesnt feel like a ton of variety in its music, all just sounds the same to me.
>>720686132mad
>>720681708Cut boss that appears briefly in the Hollow Knight trailer.You should watch it, the trailer has a bunch of cut stuff.
>>720686324>ugly bastards in the naked levelteam cherry...
>>720686406Why, for this very reason
>>720686324Bu-hihihihi! Your so cute hornet-chan!
>>720680008Yeah it's pretty good. The Forgotten Crossroads is the only place that changes, unfortunately. Silksong has some of that too though.
Why does this place exist? Waste of dev time.
>>720686603definitely the most underbaked area, even for a small sub-area
>>720680117I don't think he can refer to her. He's probably talking about the Maid in chapel where the first boss is.
>Have no problem with physical runbacks.>but having to sit through a half minute cutscene every dream/final boss attempt drives me fucking nuts.
GOODNESS FINALLY ANOTHER GOOD FUCKING BOSS JUST GIVE ME MORE OF THIS
BUSHANKA
>>720679362>sexo voice>OHOHOHO >no one likes that bitchFaggot
>>720678980>Courier's Rasher>just running into a wall decreases the timerfuck that shit what's the address offset to hack that shit in
How much new area is in Act 3?Is the bell a point of no return?Sorry, I'm sure this is getting asked a lot.
>>720686603you can tell it's just some random shit they slapped on>>720686323in hollow knight at least all the hard fights took place inside dreams so a death there wasn't a run killeri'm not sure why they bothered with steel soul in silksong or even gave it an exclusive npc/boss when 99% of people that complete it will be doing it with cheats
Holy shit you fags overhyped Lace 2 way too much, this fight was easy and boring as fuck compared to First Sinner, Phantom, Widow, Last Judge, the list can go on wtf
>>720686702you are in for a treat, the next 2 things you fight are kinos of the highest caliber
>>720686702it's all downhill from here lad, there's only one good boss remaining in a sea of shit
>>720686702This was my reaction too>holy shit this boss isn't total ass
>>720681685I guess that the only way this boss could have been added was if they hit the kickstarter goal and made it an abyss boss, i guess a void creature could get alway with looking like a more of a real spider.
>>720686603I think it may serve as a third way to enter the citadel, but unless there's some hidden mechanic that's not been discovered yet, you can't even access it before act 2. Both this area and Putrified Ducts are small, but are filled with annoying enemies.
the stage boss is a bitch
is there some kind of point of no return in act2?just did the 3 songs, wondering if i should branch out or go upstairs with the elevator that just openend up
>>720686769no such thing as point of no return in team cherry's gamesits a trope which only biggest inbreds and japs do
>>720686603I reckon they made a bunch of grimm based bugs, decided to scrap most besides the target practice minigame in the marrow and the wicker man
>>720686702Assuming you've gotten the Apostate Key, you can always go fight a certain amazing boss in the Prison. Lower right quadrant.
>Plasmium Phial can be upgraded so you never have to go restock with the NPC ever again>Flea Brew still requires you to travel all the way to the caravan>the only upgrade is that it becomes free>at a point in the game where you're rich anyway
how is it raining in Greymoor? isn't it underground?
I first try'd First Sinner.
>>720686938easy to get there and u have fast travel back
>>720686907It's like in HK. You restart before the boss after credits.
>>720681284literally what are you talking aboutI assume, if they plan future games, it will be a continuation of the ideas already set up (gods doing fuck shit). Gods fucking with the lives of everyone else seems to be the common trend so I don't see why more of a focus on dealing with them wouldnt work. I also wouldnt mind if they just make a new world and setting for a game
why didn't Hornet just text him and tell him she needs him to eat Grandma Silk? he could've done it without causing void to smear everywhere, it could've saved everyone a lot of trouble
>>720686967How is it raining in the City of Tears? It's literally underground.
>>720686967The same way it was raining in city of tears.
>>720686967it's the piss water from bilewater trickling down
>>720687014Lace
>>720686923So it wasn't just me who got Grimm Troupe vibes from the ladybug, good.
>Pinstress on the mountain> Oh no she's dead, oh wait, she's just nappingI swear she would just read my inputs constantly dodging and throwing pins, wasting all my tools, reveling in my misery with a shit-eating grin as she dodgesShe's such a goofball though, I couldn't help but love her>Horne, toot: I like her.
Did I fuck up here? There was some mini games where you had to hit the target 15 times, I did it and got some charm I think? Then it was 25 hits for the next reward but I just left, then forgot and started Act 3 and now the place is wrecked.
>>720679362Lace is too similar to hornet to get her own game, at most she could actually get a playable Lace DLC for silksong.
>>720687046>>720687050There was a big ass lake above it>>720687059Wisp Thicket
GOING INTO ACT 3 WHAT THINGS SHOULD I DO BEFORE I GO INTO IT
>>720687098it was just rosariesyou didn't miss anything
>>72068709825+ was only for Rosaries.
>>720687014because Hornet doesnt know what happened to the knight, she has no clue where she is and what he didshe doesnt understand void either and is afraid of itits not like she can go to the void pool and yell LITTLE GHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST and he will come out
>>720687124Fight don Quixote and shakira
>>720687109Greymoor is getting the runoff from bilewater and sinner's road. Which is itself coming from pale lake.
>>720686769I think four new full areas (east side of Far Fields, Lost Verdania, the abyss, and the Craddle), and a couple of small maps here and there.
>>720687124Deep Docks dark room gauntlet and the flea it's blocking off, as well as the Forgebrothers boss. You'll thank me later.
>>720679603it was all really fucking obvious though? >Go see my sister at her old chapel"oh he must be talking about the old snail from the start of the game">My uncle is a grumpy hermitoh its probably the asshole in the bell>HMMM where could we find some old weaver techoh maybe i'll go check the one weaver base with an NPC still in it.
Cogwork Dancers take so fucking long man. They're not really that difficult, it seems. I did just die my first try on phase 3 though as I panicked after getting hit by their AoE. But it took fucking forever to get that far. I don't wanna do it again.
>>720687178calling this full areas is such a fucking stretch lmao
>>720686769A fair amount but a lot of it is "one time visit only"
>>720681080this, Cogwork Core theme BTFOs every other song in the game. it sounds like some Legend of Mana kino.
>>720687219then hit the one you already dpsed instead of being an idiot if u cant dodge for 4min the most telegraphed fight in the history
>>720687153>its not like she can go to the void pool and yell LITTLE GHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST and he will come outTo be fair she never tried
>>720678980There's a path up at the rightmost side of Putrified ducts with a light shaftWhat do I do here? Doesn't seem like I can break a wall but maybe I didn't hit the right part
>Savagefly 1.0>You can bait the boss into killing the adds for you>Savagefly 2.0 but hot>doesn't kill the addsOh, so it's just extra annoying now on top of everything.
>>720687226imo it's made up for most of the map's enemies getting buffed. You are already like 20-40 hours at that point I'm happy it is mostly small areas and scattered bosses/gauntlets.
>>720687305It can kill the adds but it's jankier
The court is in session CAW!
>>720687153>its not like she can go to the void pool and yell LITTLE GHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST and he will come outWould probably work actually.
>>720687219After Last Judge those guys are absolutely nothing
>>720687124cursed child ending
>>720687226Welp, it's better than fucking Coral Tower and heart of the woods, that's for sure.
Where is the second giant drapefly at?
>>720687153During the whole abyss section, I was expecting the knight to show up in some way
i read a good chunk of anons saying that Seth is one of the best bosses in the game. Now that i actually got to him i can safely say that the pre-bosses gauntlets completely mindbroke this board. I am scared this fight gave me cancer like it did to the dude it was made for.
>>720683003deliveries should've been a bigger part of sidequests. those were actually fun.
>>720687382Same place you fought the first one.
>>720687153>its not like she can go to the void pool and yell LITTLE GHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOST and he will come outFor all we know this could work. But Hornet is too proud to suffer the indignity of looking like a buffoon in case it doesn't work.
>>720687374I haven't encountered last judge yet.
>>720687417Seth is super fun though?
>>720687403Yea im sad game doesnt have double jump either and there is no Shakra in bilewater
The game could really use a Homeward Bone kind of item, maybe a dozen throughout the game
>>720681985>goes on an epic quest to find his lost sister Myla
Lost Lace is so fucking bullshit
>>720687080For me, it was never chasing her while she's airborne.
>>720687345love these guys, especially the boss with his wig-like hair
>>720687497It's called quit to menu.
>>720687497It's called "Quit Game"
>>720687157>don QuixoteDONE in the whispering vault area right?>shakiraon it, anything else? I think I'm missing my last spool upgrade but idk where it is>>720687375was the first ending I got lmao
>>720687497Your beastling call?
>>720685231spooky bug milf
Anything else I need to get from Nameless Village before I descend? I got the one journal entry and the surface memento.
>>720687124Make sure you buy everything you can. Rosaries are harder to grind in act 3
Does the faydown cloak brick the parkour movement? When holding the jump button I expect the cloak to come up but I always to an extra jump before that.
>>720687726So do a light jump before you hover, it's not that hard
>>720687673The Bestiary entries.There's like 3 unique enemies to that area and 2 can only be found during the climb.
Grand MOMMY Silk>>720687673Remember to open the shortcut. If you haven't done the Mister Mushroom yet, you will need to return there later.
>>720687769Oh fuck, it's that flying one I don't have.
what to do with the cogheart pieces?
>>720687726It was """patched""" out in the first update.
>>720687673open the shortcut via the cave on the top
>>720687762NIGGER ALL MY MUSCLE MEMORY IS FUCKED NOW I AM LITERALLY THUINKGIN AOBUT KILLING MYSEFL
>>720687607Nope. That's pretty much the only content you can miss
>>720687726Its kinda ruins the early game platforming and requires different approach.
>>720687726Yeah, it's annoying. Apparently you used to be able to hold down and press A to get the float without jumping (I hadn't gotten double jump yet, so I never experienced it first hand). But they patched it out.
>>720685512>>720685634OOC slop!
>>720687802>>720687673there is a shortcut so u never have to climb again
>>720680424Conquest. It's a theme throughout the game that Hornet feels the need to supplant the ruler of Pharloom and she's constantly fighting against it. She doesn't know if it comes from her Weaver side or her Wyrm side, or maybe even both.
What's the song connection in the lore anyways? I get all the silk but the song completely flew over my head
>>720687846Why would they patch that out? The tooltip in the inventory literally says that holding and pressing the jump button should have different features.The fuck did these niggers do for 7 years?
>>720684013kekkedI don't play silksong
>>720682517>implyinglord of shades likes his sister.at best he just chills in the godhome equivalent and gives her a thumbs up before battles.real reason he's there is to wait for silk's bitch ass to show herself, but hey 'sis is doing stuff might as well watch.
How do I reach this melody?
>>720687907It just has power in pharloom, like Sherma's singing opens the door
>>720686789you can die during dream sequences in silk song too, but the roughest part is the start before you get your 7 masks, fractured mask, injector and lifebloodHK's steel soul was extremely easy and way shorter, and the only real threat was the final boss and possibly the third stage of the colosseum
>finally beat Lost Lace>get fucking softlockedGOD FUCKING DAMMIT FFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
>>720680424Breeding
>>720687819There's a hidden room in the hallway near the bench in Cogwork Core where you find a sleeping sentinel. You need the three pieces to activate it again.
>>720687564>>720687569but that's unlimited and for losers
What about this took 7 years?
>>720687964TROBBIO!!!You already found the route and didnt go there for some reason, its on the map
>>720687949People on reddit complained that they were getting glide inside of double jumb
>>720687964You need to take a short detour out of the Vaults. Going past Trobbio is the usual way.
>>720688048the shit ton of content + the lovely art
>>720688048Haha...
>>720688048The game is big as fuck and has a lot of tiny details
>>720688071THEY HAD 7 YEARS FOR THIS I NOTCIED IT WITHIN THE FIRST FEW MINUTES LIKE WHAT HAVE THESE AUSTRALIAN FAGGOTS BEEN DOING THE WHOLE TIME?
>>720688048tiny dev teamfeature creepno pressure for release date
>>720688048development hell>haha it was so fun adding random shit to the game in all this time>d-don't check early trailers for all the content we had to cut from the game haha
>>720686371that doesn't actually work does it? surely the devs couldn't manage to fuck up coding something as simple as an ironman mode could they?
>>720688048No need to overwork yourself every week when you're already flush with cash.
>>720687907weavers used song to put gramma to sleep
>>720688048They weren't working everyday on this game. It was literally just a hobby for them
>>720686432don't forget Hornet is a canon lolibaba, so the fat ugly bastard stuff is even more on point.
>>720688271at some point it's up to the player not to cheat his way to victory when it's a self-imposed challenge
>>720688042>but that's unlimited and for losersSo you're telling me each of the infinite return to bonfire items in Dark Souls games are bad too?
>>720688204What do you mean? It had a cloak override just like the description, but reddit whiners made them remove it in the last patch a few days ago.
>>720688249The game has too much fucking content if anything, they should have cut out more content and refined the experience.
All this time looking for a mask shard and the Songclave merchant had one all this time
>>720688271Even if they patch that out they know there'd be other methods like manually backing up saves or alt+f4, or just plain using an invincibility mod. They know there will be people who want to cheat it and it's a waste of time policing them. The mode is meant to be a voluntary 1cc mode that handles the death aspect for you.
>Cogwork core isn't 60 BPMFucking missed opportunity
>>720688271I think they left that in on purpose in case there is some massive terrain softlock or whatever and you have a chance to return to the bench.
>>720688420those have a cost of losing all your souls
>>720688048Placing rosaries and shards as exploration "rewards"Copying Bloodborne's awful blood vials system for toolsDesigning worst map (less interconnections between the zones after act 1)
>>720688108>>720688217ahh so thats why almost everything except literally 2 starting zones from that trailer 6 years ago is cut
>>720688204No, I'm saying that you could choose whether you wanted to glide or double jump but redditors complained so they took away the option entirely
>>720683191I always kinda figured the Hive and Mantis' were vassals of the Pale King when Hallownest was at its peak, only semi-independant. The Hive was trusted enough to train Hornet and the Mantis' were useful to stop Deepnest being a cunt.Speaking of, is there any good art, official or otherwise, of Hallownest at its peak?
>>720688048five hundred add bosses.
>>720686769act 3 areas are all worthless, its actually pretty sad how small they all are. the abyss in particular was a huge letdown
>>720688451who?
>Thread suddenly stops being comfy
what are you supposed to do in terminus?
>>720688582I'm sorry. I'm fucking sorry. I ruin everything I fucking touch.
>>720688582thread hit bump limit, we're headed for the abyss now
>>720688481You are a genuine dumbass.Dark Souls 1 has the Homeward Miracle and easy access to infinite Bones early on cause they're so cheap.Dark Souls 2 has the Aged Feather.Dark Souls 3 has the Coiled Sword.>Inb4 "nah, those don't count cause you have to EARN them"
>>720688493I swear there should be a connection between the slab and the blasted steps. Are you telling me no single prisoner ever thought about digging their way out of prison?
>>720688502Redditors were right.
>>720688725>>720688725>>720688725>>720688725
>>720688628You'll know when you're ready.A "terminus" is also the end of the road in terms of railroads/busses, etc.
>>720685231For me, the Red Memory was a better moment than the Abyss climb in Hollow Knight. I wonder how many people agree with me on this.
>>720688217>feature creepwhat features did they add? the game is good but nothing about the final version actually looks like something that would delay the game? did flee bounce really add 2 years to the dev time or something?
>>720688759No it fucking wasn't.
>>720688481No, you can keep your souls in all the games.
>>720688645>frogniggeryes, you do.
>>720688759I don't, not sure what the message of the red memory was to be honest
>>720688820>Responding to someone baiting in a downward spiral thread
>>720688830I just really enjoyed seeing Hornet's backstory, and I teared up at the moment with Herrah
>>720688493Aren't you missing Coral Towers?
>>720688759red memory is a memeescaping the abyss was the actual peak of the game
>>720688759Red Memory was pretty cool, i imagine reddit will complain about how hard it is once they get to it just because you have to use Hunter's crest during it.
>>720687459>pulls out a bugphone>texts the family group chat to come help>lil ghost has no mind to think so leaves her on read>PK last online 42 years ago>hollow knight just sends a bunch of scream emojis
>>720688506Aka treaty. Aka there are more than two fates. The mantis or Unn’s people definitely do not worship Pale King. Yet they are not destroyed.
>>720688048I agree. When you look at the hollow knight trailers you can see how the game changed year by year. When you look at the 2019 trailer for silksong it already looks really close to the final version.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQxwbZsL14Y
>>720688048Multitudes of reasons>Small dev team>Admitted to having too much fun making the game>Cut content itself likely contributed to them reworking maps>The art direction changed likely having their singular artist redrawing every asset>Financially set for life, ergo no pressure to crunch on any of this>Cut content may get added back in because they're still wanting to make more
>>720678980fuck mount fayfuck freezingfuck this shit
>>720681857Yeah, people underestimate just how much the Clawline does for you, since it counts as an attack>Can pogo off of enemies that are horizontal to you>Can pogo off of vertical wall spikes>Allows you to close the gap faster then using a dash attack and gains you soul when hitting an enemy because it counts as two hits.It is the game changer, I would say it is on the level of Shade Cloak.
>>720682146Yeah, pretty much. How odd that I didn't see that connection before and now I want pics of Lace looking like Nue.
>>720689570It doesn't gain you any soul unless you use the tool that upgrades it.
>>720688759I agree. I like the abyss climb but it doesn't really say much that isn't already said elsewhere in the game even though it is presented well. The Red Memory however is really cool and develops Hornet's character rather explicitly, and does so while finally canonizing the Daughter of Three Queens thing that had never actually been recognized in the games before.
