Let's use this thread to discuss the newsletter that'll probably release in a few hours and hard mode update
>>720686137Fish dickings
>>720686137Toby Fox should consider making spin-offs of his game.
>>720686137Wait, no! 2015 was last year in my mind
Did we ever find out what the echo flower messages were all about?
Safe to say she's the GOAT momma
>>720686137Glad to see Joel is still lurkin' on /v/ and postin' his favorite fish lady.
>>720687263I bet most of that is futa
>>720687443nah, but there's definitely a lot
>>720686896the man hasn't even finished his second one
>>720687932He will in about 15 years after Deltarune is finished in 2035.
>>720687263It's funny how Toriel ended up overtaking Undyne in the long-term, I remember when the game first came out there was a relatively very small amount of Toriel art while Undyne was huge. I guess the mommy gf type just overtook the goofy awkward type in general so it makes sense.
>>720686137tfw no fish vriska gf
>>720688298>This will no doubt devastate the local trout population.
>>720686137I swear it better be hard mode and not nothing because toby wants to do tons of side projects instead
>>720686137>toby is celebrating the anniversary by some regular ass event
ITS OUThttps://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/autumn25/
>>720690361>just streaming the gamedamn
>>720690361Absolute nothingburger
>>720690361>I don't think that the game will be released in the first half of 2026.
>>720690361I'm glad he made the MatPat expy an arrogant prick. That guy sucks.
>>720690767this
>>720690831lets just hope he can even keep that schedule
I'm glad Toby made his OFF songs free. Very big class act.
>>720687406Joel loves women with big red hair.
>>720690698>justAnon, read what he says.>just like we played through DELTARUNE Chapter 1!what happened when they streamed chapter 1, anon?
>>720690361>expected release is second half of 2026>technical hurdles for chapter 5 have already been dealt with>very early work on chapter 6 is being done>toby dunks on krisslashfags>undertale stream this weekendall I wanted was a vague release window, everything else was a cherry on top
>>720690361>REMINDER CHAPTER 2 SHADOW DROPPED AFTER THE LAST STREAM WHERE THEY PLAYED CHAPTER 1. There'll likely be something there, at the very least whatever he heck the flower memories thing was for and hard mode
So this is confirmation that 3/4 got delayed for the Switch 2, right?
>>720691072>at the very least whatever he heck the flower memories thing was forohhhh, I can already see it. They're going through Waterfall and most of the Echo Flowers have been replaced with some submissions from the memories page.
>>720690361>deadline to make the game content-complete by EOYhope the TL process doesn't take 5 months like it did for 4 but I don't have the highest hopes. 5 months of TL followed by another 3 of bug testing/porting puts us at like, August/September. not a lot of faith but eh, at this point my love has begun to wane and I'm sure I'll be interested again when we get close
>>720691063>>toby dunks on krisslashfagsWhat?
>>720690976He's a fellow autistic tomboy enjoyer. God bless our Swede.
>>720691321>THEORY!? That's not a theory, that's just...>You think just because something LOOKS cool... >THAT makes it correct!?I was being facetious, I'll admit it
>>720691321anon is probably taking the battat cutscene saying "if it looks cool it's true" as a jab at that specifically
I dont know how chapter 5 can live up to the insane heights of 4 but maybe cool off between chapters is necessary so it doesnt keep ramping up.
>>720691432I think thats more him dunking on people saying dess makes more sense/would be cooler than carol or rudy knight
>>7206914685 is gonna be the festival, and likely end with some sort of crazy shit like The Roaring happening. lots of things coming together for 5 to make it interesting >>720691261it was probably gold for like, April-ish yeah. 2 months of wait didn't seem so bad after 3+ years of waiting
>>720691468People said the same thing about how 3 and 4 would never live up to the hype of 2 or the long wait. Lo and behold, Toby finds a way. The fact that we can't imagine how he'll top them is what will make it so effective when he does..
>>720690361HOLY FUCK IT'S PAPYRUS
>>720691960https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FezNgPThD3M*Bonetrousle plays mencingly.*
>>720691615the thing with that being what it's meant to be referencing is that it implies the knight's actually something boring by comparison, and frankly i don't want to think that toby would outright say that just because he saw a lot of dessknight art on twitterand besides i'd argue carolknight would actually BE cooler, so...
>>720686137Fish Pussy, Fish Titties and Fish Feet
>>720692245I give it 5 to 1 odds in Rudy's favor that he's the Knight.
>>720690361>Richard David Horvitz is the voice director for the Homestuck cartoonwhat the fuck
>>720686137>>720687406Haha what if she bites your foreskin menacingly
>>720692397I agree, Joel.
>>720690361Toby, what are you doing to me man
>>720692450rudyknight would make all the sexy knight art funny, but at the same time he's like the definition of "not really a theory, just something that'd be cool"dude can barely get out of bed for an hour without his condition getting worse, and unless i'm forgetting something there's not really anything hinting towards him faking it - rudyknight is making that leap for the cool factor rather than because it's a plausible theory
>>720693013the "ow" every time battat drinks the battery acid and it happening repeatedly every other second is an analog to what would actually happen to rudy's poor back if he was the knight
>>720690361>Biggest part of the update is Robert "Radiation" "Underground Railroad to Negrotown" "The baby is (You)" Fox telling his retarded underage fans all about how much of his life was spent on MSPaint Comic#4 and how he's glad to be babbling in a mic for the glass wearing fag who has the dubious privilege of fucking Andrew "Clowngender" Hussie's ideal woman>Oh btw it's gonna be at least a year before Chapter 5 lolololThank you Toby, very cool!
>>720693137lel
I know some people are hoping that UT Hard Mode is gonna be a secret reveal, but it feels kinda at odds with UT's message if the game gets an update (on the same platform) that makes you get the urge to replay. Not sure I worded that in the best way, but you get what I mean?
>>720693013A part of me want him to be the Knight just to see the all the Dess Knight artists reaction. kek It would certainly be a legendary one.
>>720692397you make a compelling argument
>>720693505what if the only change is removing so sorry and adding a new pc exclusive boss fight that scans your whole pc for gay furry porn and makes you type an entire essay on why you should be shot dead and you get a shadowcrystal that is transferable to deltarune
>>720693013The most/only suspicious line Rudy has is if you keep checking the sink in Chapter 2+>* Practicing for tonight's...>* Handwashing marathon, Kris?But even that has a clear explanation, Chapter 4's egg implies that Krs started compulsively washing their hands after (traumatic incident) (which also explains why Toriel is so dismissive about Kris going AWOL in the bathroom at the end of Chapter 2). Rudy would know about this because he's stayed close to Toriel and Kris even after the divorce, as implied before and confirmed in Chapter 3/4 (Rudy is the last visitor to leave in the "Holidays" flashback in Chapter 3)
...so... nothing happened? so much for 10 years I guess
>>720693975next week... in games magazines...
>>720693975>nothing is happening RIGHT NOW which means NOTHING WILL EVER HAPPEN EVER
How old were you when Undertale came out and have you finished making your own game yet
there's gonna be a new arg right...?
>>720693873>Rudy kept coming over to the Dreemurr house, even after Noelle and Carol stopped and Asgore had been kicked outTori....
>>720694434I was 12 when it came out. I will start working on my game when I hit 75 and I'm retired
i missed a sentence in my 10th anniversary message. i was conditioned to not write much but i had room for it at the end
>>720691432>>720691063Notice how he claims its not a theory, but then keeps drinking the battery acid anyway because it does indeed look cool.
>>720686225Do you like fish sticks?
>>720690879That guy is a you expy though
>>720686137it was simpler times
>>720691615>people saying dess makes more sense/would be cooler than carol or rudy knight...Because it does? Are you so deep in the contrarianism you genuinely believe Rudy Knight makes more sense? THE SWORD LOOKS LIKE A FUCKING BAT.
>>720696285I'm just saying but Dess had to get her interest on baseball from someone...
No idea why this shit became so popularLISA is far better
>>720695972>Um, why not You can use just point the spear! to what you want?
>>720696381 and yet 10 years later look which game people want to discuss more your game won't be remembered without mass appeal as toby's games have. Lisa is a breathtaking story but it's sad as fuck
>>720692748>People here wanted to fuck Friend before Chapters 3-4 were releasedHmmm.....
>>720693505Toby is such a fucking faggot.
>>720694434I really need to be programming for my Undertale fangame, but I keep procrastinating. All I've made in the past week is this texture.
>>720696594He CANNOT keep getting away with it
>>720696738I guess texture is the wrong term. That's a tile.
>>720692748SSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXXXXXX
what's with the yellow dog-thing on toby's table
>>720693505I get what you're saying but Undertale is already a game that gives you a million reasons to replay it, that's part of the point too
Just curious but was the email version of the newsletter identical to the one posted publicly?
>>720696798would
>>720687263>More than KrystalI'm genuinely shocked.
>>720697180Will
>>720692748Keep the suit on and we'll talk, brother.
How do items in the dark world work? >go in naked>find clothes in dark world and wear them>leave wearing dark clothesWhat would happen?
>>720697395You have to wear the dark clothes constantly otherwise you get a Gantz situation where you get pulled into a fight but your super suit is at the dry cleaner's.
>>720697395the clothes would turn back into their real world equivalent. So you'd leave wearing a bandaid, a snap on wrist band, and nothing else.
>>720697130I haven't even gotten the email yet
>>720687263ive blasted too many ropes to this plump bitch
>>720698696
>>720698696Don't call her the b word. It's very rude.
>>720699354its a term of endearment from me to her, she gets it
What will you choose, /v/?
>>720699461There is only one 6 letter word I would accept as the name.
>>720691328That juice looked so FUCKING GOOD
>>720699461Mugsy
>>720699423its also true
>fan song uses Freedom motif>neurons light up like a Christmas treeHow does Toby do it?
>>720699461Temmie
>>720699601it's paint asshole
>>720699972That paint looks so FUCKING GOOD
>>720693505Toby doesn't give a shit whether you replay Undertale. Undertale's message has nothing to do with replaying or revisiting a game inherently being bad. It's about how you should value enjoying the game over experiencing every single thing the game has to offer like a checklist.
>>720699972Paint susies ass hole with Juice? I think i will
>>720694434i like the "idea" of making a game, but when it comes down to it i actually am not sure what kind of game i want to makefeels like most of my ideas are either too simple and boring or too complex and hard to doit's not like i haven't made games though, i did a few personal projects and shitty game jam games
>>720700082Flowey gives you a monologue after completing a True Pacifist run, requesting that the player leave the world alone and not reset or replay the game.
>>720693013The causality would be backwards, and Rudy’s illness could be caused by regular overexertion in the dark world. Even though Dessknight (with Kris’s soul) seems like the most reasonable to me overall, I’m going to give myself credit for being one of the first Rudyknight anons because it’s more than plausible as an explanation for his condition.
>>720700271And yet the Genocide route is very much intended for people who already went through the TP route.
>>720700271That's just Flowey warning "Chara" to not turn out like he did by growing curious about the "what-ifs" and resetting to satiate them.If it was really meant to be a message from Toby himself to (You), he'd use the Annoying Dog and directly refer to you as the player, not the Fallen Human who isn't actually you, as was revealed in the whole "oh, this kid is Frisk, and Chara kind of sucked actually" spiel.
>WITH OR WITHOUT [[gang violence?]]
>>720700271Flowey's monologue is meant to clarify that there isn't some super-secret post-true-reset content to find. Taking it as a direct moral imperative ("don't replay the game, it'd be mean to the characters if you undid the happy ending!") is utterly baffling and I'm amazed anyone ever took this reading of the game seriously.
>>7206872634me, it's Catty
>>720690361While the scene with the Mikes is funny, what exactly is the context here? We're just watching in on a moment with these guys? We never leave the perspective of the soul, even when we watch in on stuff without Kris, they make an excuse for the soul to be there, always saying it's just "with Susie". But these guys are just NPCs.
>>720687443>>720687705Those are rookie numbers
>>720700734That's just how attached niggas got. Even to a point where Toby likely had to compromise is desire for secrecy about Deltarune by openly stating "while the games are connected in a narrative sense, playing Deltarune won't do anything to your Undertale save file, everyone and everything will be right where you left them." just to make sure no one had an autistic shitfit over the possibility of "everyone's happy endings" being nullified or bastardized.
>>720700445Player-denierfagging to the extent of denying that Flowey is an allegorical character mirroring the expected Undertale player's experience is really something>>720700734>Flowey's monologue is meant to clarify that there isn't some super-secret post-true-reset content to findThat's just not even true.
>>720701239>That's just not even true.Explain? I never heard of any post-True Reset content.The fact that you know Flowey is meant to mirror the expected player experience implies you should understand the message, why would you be arguing for this bastardization of it?
>>720700734It's really not hard to understand why people feel that way about the video game that wants you to empathize with its video game characters like real people.
>>720701239Again, if that moment was really meant to be Toby begging on his hands and knees for the player to not reset the game because you'd hurt the character's feefees, he should've used Annoying Dog and referred to them as "player".Referring to the player by Chara, or whatever they named the Fallen Human, stops working after you get the bombshell reveals that the kid you were playing as was an unrelated kid named Frisk, and that the human they named is just a dead kid who's been gone for ages and was also a toxic asshole who manipulated Asriel into assisted suicide just so Chara could try and go on a murderous rampage against humanity, I.E. actions taken by a character on their own, not decisions made by the player.
>>720701592>the video game that wants you to empathize with its video game characters like real peopleI never got this either. The game sets your expectations such that you know the characters will respond more realistically than you might initially expect to any given action, especially for how abstract and RPG-like the presentation is. In accepting this premise, I didn't have to treat them as any more than game characters. Why did so many people fail?
>>720686137So when's Vinny playing Undertale?
>>720701498All the content that you get by choosing to continue to play the game and see what else happens instead of accepting the "best ending" you got is "post-True Reset content." I don't know where this very specific and narrow "Flowey doesn't want you to do True Pacifist and then reset and do True Pacifist again" idea is coming from. Even in that extremely limited context it's not true, you could do True Pacifist and then Genocide and True Pacifist again to see the corrupted ending(s). There's always more to see if you just keep playing.>>720701676>if the author has a message for the reader they need to drop all pretense and address them directlyThis is insulting to your intelligence.Toby Fox does not think you are a bad person for playing the game he made and sold you in the way that he expected you to (this is a difficult concept for some people). That doesn't mean he can't ask you why you're doing what you're doing as you proceed down this road he fully expected you to go down.
>>720690361Is this the first time Toby has directly acknowledged Homestuck in the 10 years since Undertale released?
>>720702148Nope. He talked about Alphys' design being inspired by John's glasses and the Consorts during the Chapter 1 livestream.
>>720702061>I don't know where this very specific and narrow "Flowey doesn't want you to do True Pacifist and then reset and do True Pacifist again" idea is coming fromFlowey at the end of True Pacifist just wants you to be nice to the characters. Toby doesn't want you to worry that there might be a bunch of meta-routes that all individually begin with an entire True Pacifist run. Because starting to think like that would make you waste a whole lot of time and Toby doesn't want to waste your time.>There's always more to see if you just keep playing.Diminishing returns. Toby wants you to stop when you stop enjoying yourself rather than letting the game decide when you're done because you have to see all the content. Each repeat run has fewer truly new things to offer you.
>>720687263Top slut
>>720702148There's even more mentions buthttps://xcancel.com/search?f=tweets&q=from%3Atobyfox+homestuck&since=&until=&near=
>>720702441>Toby doesn't want you to worry that there might be a bunch of meta-routes that all individually begin with an entire True Pacifist run.Flowey is cautioning you against resetting because it would undo all the work you did to get the "best ending" for everyone. There's absolutely no reason to assume it's actually about Toby putting up a coded stop sign so completionist don't do extra True Pacifist (despite the fact that there is in fact content you can only see on a repeat True Pacifist run).>Because starting to think like that would make you waste a whole lot of time and Toby doesn't want to waste your time.There are at least 8 major variations of neutral endings which mostly amount to changing Sans's monologue, and a ton of smaller things the game keeps track of which also slightly change the ending and affect things throughout the game. This amounts to roughly 100 different possible endings to Undertale. There are a shitload of different possibilities for completionists to explore even if a normal person would consider most of them a waste of time. What you're describing is not the philosophy Undertale was built around.
>>720699461The only name the game won't accept, Gaster.
>>720703039>(despite the fact that there is in fact content you can only see on a repeat True Pacifist run).wait what
>>720703178There are two variants of the True Pacifist ending depending on if you choose to stay with Toriel, and two more "corrupted" variants after you've completed a Genocide run. You would necessarily need to complete repeat True Pacifist runs to see these for yourself.
>>720703330The post-genocide variants aren't really "Post-True Pacifist" though, and you also don't need to do a full reset just to see the different outcomes.You can just load as normal and then see what the other selection gets you, same as how you can load after successfully no-hitting the credits to backtrack to Snowdin's sealed door and check out the Dog Room.
>>720702535I'M GONNA BLOW [[ my creamy white cake frosting]] ALL OVER YOUR [[ hooochie MAMMA]] KRIS!!
>>720703039>because it would undo all the work you did to get the "best ending" for everyone Supposedly the only reason he was able to feel the full emotional spectrum was because he had souls in him, and he was still feeling it afterward. You assuming he's suddenly transformed back into a perfect pragmatist is a pretty big leap in my eyes.>there is in fact content you can only see on a repeat True Pacifist runOnce again, explain? I have not heard of this. I thought the True Reset was absolute over everything aside from the post-genocide deal.>There are a shitload of different possibilities for completionists to explore even if a normal person would consider most of them a waste of time.Just within the system you've described, the ending monologues from Sans, the limits of the system are set up to be pretty cleanly understood so completionists know what to try. The snowman piece teaches the player that your inventory matters, and the main other thing that changes is based obviously on who you've killed and spared. Everything Undertale actually expects you to find is because it expects you to explore the boundaries it set, not to try shit entirely at random. The hope was evidently to minimize the odds of any given run being a total waste that shows you nothing new at all.The intent of the speech is to set a new boundary: Nothing relies on the True Reset button. There is no exclusive content behind doing a True Reset.
>>720686137Toby's such a dogshit writer (pun intended). Chapters 3+4 were such rushed piles of crap and it really shows. Instead of accepting that anyone got story pieces correct, he subverted the fuck out of everything just to appear as if he was some sort of mastermind. The design of the Knight is the biggest indicator of this, he's given himself the room to go in whatever direction he wants with it and people think he's this giga IQ genius when in reality he just cares about his own appearances. As a result, instead of expanding in any of the theorized directions, he's only removed possibilities.What's even funnier is that he's literally mocking you autists with the Mike shit. There's so many times where Toby writes some allegorical shit to essentially say "Hey! Stop paying attention to my loose ends so much! It's supposed to be fun! >:(" and it all just flies over people's heads. His audience has out-thought his stupid story and he's trying to compensate for it by just pretending it's a goofy adventure with silly jokes.>There is no Mike>There is no Dess Knight>And there IS NO ROYAL SCIENTISTAlso what a garbage newsletter, y'all love hearing Toby rant about himself and non game related shit huh? He doesn't care about Deltashit anymore and it show lmao
>>720704694Yup, he already lacked much care for Deltarune in the past little while, but he probably stopped giving a fuck entirely when he was given the chance to voice Mr. Homestuck himself in the cartoon. Complete and utter fucking nullification of any "I'm better than Hussie" glazing he's been receiving, even now he's still that fucker's basement bitch boy. Fucking PATHETIC.
>>72068613710th anniversary since release and 10th anniversary since I last played it>>720690361hahahahahahAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAnow that silksong is out this game is alone in stringing along cultist followers
>>720704817Toby's a HUGE egotist. If it wasn't already evident by him talking on and on about non UT/DR projects he does when nobody asked, Undertale's own steam banner is just the Annoying Dog over and over again.You know, his self-insert?... Instead of any character or something actually related to the game?...>TFW Hussie's self-insert wasn't even on the fucking Homestuck book covers
>>720686137Is this the Vinny game?
>>720705098>the prophecy is absolute, and it can't be averted no matter what you do... unless it's my funny self-insert xD, look at me stop the queen's unstoppable chariot with a traffic jam lol!!!!!!!!!
>>720687986Stop bitching we are literally getting Ch 5 in December 25th, 2026
>>720704425>the limits of the system are set up to be pretty cleanly understood so completionists know what to try. The snowman piece teaches the player that your inventory matters, and the main other thing that changes is based obviously on who you've killed and sparedThere are several other variables that the game tracks and comments on. Sans will comment if you never SAVEd, if you never change your armor from the starting Bandage, if you never used healing items, and if you've done all of these at the same time. Some endings are even more obscure, like the "kill all of the bosses" ending has a variation depending on if you've also killed an arbitrary number of other monsters (both of these endings being different from Genocide and Aborted Genocide and Repeat Genocide).The Snowman Piece is easy to stumble upon as you are specifically prompted to take it to the end, but for a completionist player playing blind you would only discover these by arbitrary trial and error. Toby did not give the player messages steering them to do these things and not "waste their time" doing other things, like the million other small things you can do that slightly change your play through. Undertale highly incentivizes replayability and exploring all of your options by design, despite AND because of the game's message partly being about completionism and how it fundamentally and irrevocably changes how you interact with a game.>There is no exclusive content behind doing a True Reset.True Pacifist and post-Genocide True Pacifist are two distinct endings. You would necessarily need to perform a True Reset to see both of them.
>>720705098>TFW Hussie's self-insert wasn't even on the fucking Homestuck book coversThat's because Hussie's real self-insert wasn't Hussie. It was fucking Dave+Dirk.
>>720701592first of all, any story strives for that sort of verisimilitude, that's nothing uniquesecond of all, if you do actually start treating NPCs like something close to real flesh-and-blood humans, then it's (YOU) who has legit inability to make judgmentsnot too hard to see the seams in undertale, ya know?
>>720705301You spelled "John Egbert" wrong. The teeth are the major giveaway.
>>720705632>Hussie self inserts into Toby
>>720705696...is it time to bring back the Noelle theory?
>>720705696you laughing...as we speak Toby is being rawdogged by Hussie while Temmie watchesand you're laughing.
>>720692748that's literally some random masculine shadow in a fur suit, dude
>>720705836Are Toby and Temmie a thing? because Toby legit gives me vibes of "I'm really into this chick but she doesn't like me back but is still working politely and professionally with me because the thing I own is famous">inb4 "they're just friends retard"Toby has 100% thought about doing Temmie at some point in his life (source: because you also have and you KNOW it)
>>720706181Toby has thoughts only for homestuck cosplayers
>>720706075Then why does it have such FUCKABLE eyelashes?
>>720706181honestly I don't fucking knowFor the longest time i thought that they were a couple tho but I'm pretty sure they're just really good friends and co-workers
>>720706075And? Shadowguys are fuckable too.
I'm a simple man with a simple wish of a fish
>>720706181Let's not forget the only reason he ever added annoying dog to the game and made it a whole bitwas because Temmie really liked dogs so he wanted to make her happy
>>720706334 You joke but half the deltarune roster feels like it was designed at a con after spending 4 hours trapped under a pile of Homestuck fans. Ralsei is just if Nepeta and Jade were one creature and ran a Tumblr aesthetic blog.
>>720706181Toby genuinely strikes me as gay. Like not even bi but full on gay.
>>720706556He did have that whole section where you had to flex against a seahorse and then another where you needed to massage some guards sweaty pecs so ig he is a bit of a barafag..buuuut he also really likes lesbians apparently so that does sounds really straight to meI think he is bi but faggy as a gimmicky quirk
Temmie wears the pants in the relartionship.
>>720705190>Literally over a year from now.lol. Going to be a few thousand Deltarune dead from old age and accidents by the time it comes out. Poor bastards.
>>720705235>Toby did not give the player messages steering them to do these things and not "waste their time" doing other thingsChecking whether a known flag has a corresponding line in some known variant of the ending is exploring within pre-established bounds.>but for a completionist player playing blind you would only discover these by arbitrary trial and errorAs I explained above, all the things you mentioned were already flags. Checking all the flags for whether they alter the ending isn't "arbitrary". It is trial and error to discover which flags are likely to affect which events, but not arbitrary in the slightest, and the trial and error decreases with each flag you find. What's supposed to be a true blind guess?>True Pacifist and post-Genocide True Pacifist are two distinct endings.I disagree.
>>720706556No, he's too self-aware to be gay. He knows how to manipulate his community, people like that aren't buttfuckers because they're more concerned with self-preservation and wealth. He'd be smart but he's more concerned with being "the guy", he's ALWAYS wanted to be "the guy".Toby's literally indie Todd Howard; he's been a short nerd his whole life and wants to wear a cool leather jacket and fuck bitches. Unfortunately, God cursed him with the vessel of a flamboyant twink.I think people here can relate to having that one overly nice short friend that's easy to talk over/easy to noogie and shove around and they'll laugh it off. They HATE that shit. That one "HEY GUYS!" video that's out there of Toby literally demonstrates what I'm talking about, the camera man walks all over Toby.
>>720706941People here could make a better game than Deltarune in that time period ngl, better than sitting around wasting time for something Toby visibly has no passion for anymoreHop on the inspiration train sooner and be the next derivative of a derivative, I'd love to see somebody overshadow Toby and cast him back into obscurity.Fuck, make a webcomic, anything. Imagine one of you faggots made something and nobody gave a fuck about chapter 5 when it came out. That'd be hilarious.
>>720707030If you think that Toby is assuming that players are datamining to check what flags the game is tracking then what would be the point of the normal message in the game's script?
>>720706704Aaron was a joke about how Temmie hated drawing muscles so he had her design a muscular seahorse.Massaging the guard is probably a reference to a niche part of Japanese culture where for some reason they find extremely muscular dudes funny. There's probably an obscure term for that but I won't look it up. Either way, it's meant to be a joke.Neither of these say anything about Toby's personal life, likely because he has no interest in leaking that information to parasocial fans.
>>720707358I can beliebe the one fro Aaron but the second one seem like a reach
>>720690361>Zim VA involved in the Homestuck thing>he's NOT voicing KarkatOne fucking job
>>720707358>>720707460Two buff dudebros being gay for each other was still inherently funny in 2015
>>720699461PINGAS
>>720707358>niche part of Japanese culture where for some reason they find extremely muscular dudes funny.Gachimuchi? That's literally centered around gay porn.
>>720707567What did Chara mean by this
>>720707308>If you think that Toby is assuming that players are datamining to check what flags the game is trackingI don't. Toby is assuming that players are sentient and can tell when the game signals that it's watching a flag. For instance, the game responds to what armor you're wearing, outside of its combat properties, enough that you should be able to guess that your armor state is a story flag. Thus, you might think to check the ending for a response to each armor state. Since you can't equip the bandage once it's off, only use it, it enforces its own little challenge run. That makes it suspicious without any blind guessing or arbitrary leaps of logic.
>>720706704He likes lesbians in a tranny way though
Toby Fox should die for making Undyne a dyke
>>720696541I sincerely will never play Lisa or it's related universe. It's not for me. I know how hard and how much life sucks, and some of the shittiest way men are taken advantage of. I don't want to play a game that reminds me of how unsavable and ignoble life can be.
Happy 22nd birthday to Undertale fans
>>720700271>>720700445The player exists in undertale however flowey is talking to Chara specifically. Chara is the only one who seems to talk to the player, but sans and alphys both know the player exists.
>>720707358Iirc the term is cho. As in cho-marisa.
>>720701036We're free of Kris and floating around Castle Town knocking on doors and collecting our recruits and our perspective is shifting around like crazy because we're unbound.
>>720707764Wasn't that specific phrase talking about an pseudo-incest straight couple in the original book? My memory is shit and the last time I read Kitchen was over a decade ago.
>>720693505Toby is not nearly as autistic as you, lol. Genocide is a story, not some kind of meta-philosophy. That's what Toby wrote it as, a story, and nothing else.
>>720708058maybe I'm being a retard but I can't find anything outside of "cho" being slang for super/ultra/a synonym for meccha.
>>720708173>the man who made the no lightners merch rule>not autisticAnon..............
>>720706181>>720706376>>720706498I enjoy how he apparently just acts out the animations in real life when he doesn't know how to describe them to temmiehttps://youtu.be/vnTBYK031nc?si=wWS-zhBS97URNum5If they're friends good for them
ManUndertale is a masterpiece
>>720708320Only reason we even have a green shirt is thanks to Kris. And it's not even Chara shirt. No Chara merch 10 years later. I want to knee cap toby
>>720708415It's both Chara's shirt and Kris's shirt. The only reason it even exists is because it can be "Someone's Shirt" rather than specifically having to be either of their shirts, and the implication that "your love becomes their love, and their love becomes yours" is very obviously paralleling both Chara and Kris and their respective relationships with the player.
>>720708320That's a different kind of autism. The Genocide route would not be interspersed with humor and action if Toby thought of it the same way the fandom does, almost as if it's a sin to even play.
>>720708646 (me)Actually the Weird Route is a good counter-example to this. The differences in how that's treated and how Genocide are treated tell what Toby thinks about them respectively.
>>720708609Chara doesn't have stripes on her arms.
>>720708173>>720708646Fans would have you believe Toby is saying:>THEY'RE THE SAME AS REAL PEOPLE LEAVE THEM ALONE!!but who knows
>>720708713It's funny how the fandom treats the whole thing, apparently it's okay to spend 25 bucks to hijack Kris's life and make his existence absolute hell because he's being puppeteered by some unknowable godly being who exists above him and everyone he knows and loves, but using those 25 bucks to mindbreak a doe is TOO HECKING FAR.Meanwhile Gaster doesn't give a shit as long as you don't completely break his Deltarune, and Gerson, Toby's mouthpiece for the author's perspective, outright encourages you to fuck around and find out if it'll help you gain new perspectives and ideas on things.
>>720708775In undertale that is window dressing. The theme of undertale is leaving a game behind instead of replying it so much trying to 100% everything. Don't you have anything better to do?
Who the FUCK is Papyrus talking about here?
>>720709139It's his friend, Quantity... for some reason he will stay stagnant and that makes Papyrus upset
>>720709139He technically has no friends outside of Undyne.
>>720708909I think the fandom is correctly receiving a signal they generally aren't aware is being transmitted, that Kris is more complicit than not in what is happening in regards to the SOUL, but is actually being taken advantage of, along with Noelle, in the Weird Route.
>>720690361Janny's gonna get so mindbroken on Saturday, can't wait
>>720709139Am I the only one?
>>720709807I will never see it as two eyes
>>720708909Nobody cares about Kris. He deserves to be tormented.Noelle is just some innocent stranger caught up in the middle.
>>720709807I can't not see it as two eyes.
>>720699461The true name.
>>720708983Pretty much. The genocide route is largely meant to be a bad thing because it's you being unable to let go and doing shit just to see the content. Chara was unable to let go of his hatred. Asriel/Flowey is unable to let go of Chara. Asgore and Toriel are unable to move on at all and are basically both in their own speical forms of denial.. Alphys is unable to let go of her self hatred. Etc, etc.
>>720706181Temmie honestly seems pretty insuferable to be around 24/7.
>>720699461LuMeng
>>720699461Steven
>>720710621have you heard the tale of--
>>720699461>inb4 people spam Gaster
>>720690361>wait 6 years for 2 chapters>now we gotta wait another fully year for a single chapterWhat were they doing during these 6 years again exactly?
>>720710767Raped by temmie every other day
Toby Fox shilling ENA
>>720707764He was down bad for Asriel.
>>720712560pretty sure that was a mutual thing, if how fixated Flowey was on Chara is any indication
>>720713282I do wonder sometimes about Asriel. I get Chara being a friendless loser who, if not fell in love, at least became very fixated on the first person to show him any kindness. But Asriel was a well liked prince. You think he would be drowing in friends.
>>720711510ENA threads might be the only threads more schizo than /utg/. Either they're die after 5 posts or someone does 500 samefag posts pretending to be different people for 8 hours to mald about someone criticising dream BBQ even slightly
>>>/vg/Go away.
>>720714631http://4chan.org/janitorapp
>>720687263Toriel? More like Whoriel!
>>720714563it's the other way around, he hates it so he samefags as people malding about criticizing the game in a very transparent attempt to make himself look justified for disliking the game
>>720690361Well, that's kinda of disappointing. Just a stream and Chapter 5 won't even be releasing in the first half of 2026. Well, I am curious about what's Toby will say while playing the game in the very least. The Deltarune stream was pretty interesting.
>>720692465He is for Hazbin Hotel etc. too, it's literally just because Vivzie found a way to force Invader Zim to professionally interact with her.
>>720691432I really don't think it was dunking anything at all, especially when he kept drinking it.
>>720686137I wish I saw this image earlier. Thank you for posting it.
>>720693505Didn't Toby already say he wouldn't be finishing hard mode in an exclusive Japanese interview?
>>720715853lmao sure
>>720687263>Humans and goats are the most gooned to character Why do people either go for milfs or lolis? Why don't they go for regular aged women?
>>720716493I don't know why that's so hard for you to believe. It's obvious what's happening when you've seen him do it so many times. Do you think he's serious when he says shit like "I love ENA so much that I have a meltdown every time somebody dares criticize it and accuse them of being a schizo!"? Are you extremely autistic or something?
>>720699461I feel like Chara will win, but I hope we get a silly name.
>>720701813Never lol.
>>720716715He says that? I don't think I've seen that. Could you show me him saying that?
>>720707764She loves incest and wants to fuck Asriel.
>>720716830https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/710931046/#710938825
>>720716985Looks like he's noticed the samefagging overdefensive schizo and is making fun of them for it. Very based.
>>720717031I'm sorry a video game made you lose your mind. I hope you get the help you need one day. Call a loved one.
>>720708086Yep.
>>720709139Undyne. Papyrus thinks that befriending Frisk will make Undyne stop being his friend.
>>720717141We agree on one thing: all the overdefensive schizoposts in ENA threads are written by the same person, and they have severe mental problems
>>7207169854chan really is a madhouse, honestly.
>>720714563I've seen that and it's very depressing. Makes Temmieschizo look balanced and reasonable.>>720717214Undyne is wasted on Alphys. Alphys deserved the electric chair, not a perfect fish wife.
>>720717348Behave yourself in front of the undertale fans, anon
>>720716698Because people don't look for the average when they browse porn, they look for something that highlights their particular taste
>>720717246They sure do! Say, what's your favorite part of ENA: Dream BBQ? You have played it, right?
>>720717246Oh 100%, you won't see me denying that
>>720687263Toriel owes me naked cuddles
can you post more stuff like op's pic please..
he's here
>>720717446Yeah I played it. I love the Shaman animation. I think it's a shame the fanbase is so schizo but I still like the game, especially the sound design
>>720717537
>>720714563That schizo is here and is about to unleash his autism in full force even though not one person itt has said anything bad about dream bbq.
>>720717446>They sure do!Yeah
>>720717417I mean, we are crazy, too. Last few threads had a lot craziness involving Charafans, too. There's no 4chan thread were people are just normal.
>Another year for Chapter 5I hate when lazy bitch releases their "game" in batches.
>>720687263Are Undertale fan's mommy fetish THAT strong?
>>720718701It's not just Undertale fans, Anon
>>720718701I have a mommy fetish and I've never jerked off to Toriel or drawn erotic Toriel art in my entire life. My reason? She looks BALD to me.
Undertale has given me so much quality ERP.I owe Toby Fox my life.
>>720718973That Chara is a man.
>>720719237I'm well aware.I PLAY the boy Chara. Girl Charas are already plentiful.
>>720719328I like female humans myself, but you do you.
>>720717538Who? Because I've been told theres an ENAfag and a Charafag that have notoriously shat up these threads when banny janny is asleep at the wheel.
>>720719964If you ever want to see the very peak of mental illness, go into any ENA thread and imply you or anyone else might have a negative opinion of dream bbq. You don't even need to say anything bad about it, just infer something other than positivity. Within 60 seconds a nutcase will appear and they will spend the next 8 hours pretending to be 100 different people talking about how insane YOU are
>>720686137>this is AIWhat a shame>>720720098The funniest part is half those posts will pretend to be completely new to the thread and to 4chan in general. He's not very good at it but still needs to pretend theres a united army against one evil and obsessed ena hater who doesn't actually seem to say anything bad about ena at all. Or if they did it was months ago. I dont know what goes through his head.
>>720719964>CharafagPretty sure that's mostly referred to me, the original human poster. Although it kinda snowballed and now I see people accuse anyone who posts Chara as (me). Nowadays I only posts images in less than half of my posts.
>>720707537He will voice caliborn, obviously.
>>720720280>this is AIMade me search. Apparently it's not.
>>720710704We should do this
>>720720098>>720720280Oh what the fuck he's actually worse than Charafaggot. Not even in a self-important irritating narcissist kind of way, but mentally unwell in a way that I have to assume is an undiagnosed gas leak or severe psychosis. A genuine lunatic.https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/718831674/#718831674https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/713365880/#713382198
>>720718701Mommy fetish is the most normal fetish there is.
>>720721145Toby will refuse. Either Chara or some shitty meme like Togore will win.
>>720720978Who's the artist?>>720721269How many posts in those threads are yours I wonder. Or are you just the latest in a very long line of people who have never been to an ena thread before but are saying the exact same thing 100 others have repeatedly said in them
>>720709807always saw it as two eyes, like he's making the goofy face in his battle sprite
>>720720280I didn't believe it until I saw the threads myself. Now it's undeniable.
>>720721614>Who's the artist?cheenmachine2
>>720720098This is good to know
>>720720512 (me)So I guess I can barely say it's actually me, I guess. I am not even a Charafag, but a Friskfag. I guess that’s what celebrities feel. Perks of an anonymous website and having no real identity attached.
>>720721614Swear on my mother and my bank account I haven't posted in a dream BBQ thread a day of my life, I'm just an outsider looking in. She's rightfully /co/ clay anyway.
Can we talk about Undertale/Deltarune again? I thought the newsletters would revitalize the threads.
>>720721781Nice, thank you>>720721915Notice how there are 100s of posts malding about a hater schizo but practically no hate posts at all. I dont want to consider the whole ena fanbase schizo since its clearly one unhinged fan but its still wild to see that level of overdefensive behaviour.I think someone said something bad about the game once and this guy has been mad about it ever since and thinks that evil haters is lurking everywhere
I don't even like ena but the fact that they have to deal with a schizo dedicated to false-flagging as a diehard fan in order to make their game look bad is very sad.
>>720722094I think I'll stop replying to you now.
>>720722154Yeah total outsider here and I completely agree. Never even heard of ena before today but we can all agree anyone being negative about it is definitely a dedicated schizo.
>>720722337OK, I'm sure someone who agrees with you will show up shortly to replace you
>>720722070There wasn't really anything in it desu, sounds like all the big announcements are happening on the weekends
>these fuckers now have the freedom motif AND lost girlWhat are they up to...
>>7206994616 LettersLet me startN
>>720722515I really hope we don't get another "Toby PROVES this character is non-binary" moment like last stream.
>>720696541>your game won't be remembered without mass appeal as toby's games havethat just means toby games appeal to retarded normalfags
>>720722636It'll be the opposite in fact, Toby will reveal Chara was a boy all along and call everyone retarded for not picking up on "murderboy" before.
Wtf is ENA?
>>720722994I will accept this if he makes Frisk a girl or say nothing about her.
>>720723084Surreal animated shorts. Later became an indie game. Cool visuals and music. Extremely overdefensive and schizo fanbase, so don't say anything bad about it.
>>720699461Assass
>>720690986Toby released some unused music? I think he teased Chapter 2 too? You think he'll tease real Hard Mode this time alongside more unused content?
>>720723927He released concept art and told us about plans he had.
>>720723927The version of Chapter 1 they played had Nubert in it (he does not appear in Chapter 1 at all) , and then we saw the intro of Chapter 2 for the first time, followed by a release date finally.There's no way the version of Undertale they play won't have something weird in it.
>>720700895why is she blue
>>720725332Someone back in May said they didn't like dream bbq, and every ena thread since then has been one guy screaming about the trauma it caused him. Maybe after 4 months it's time to let go of the pain. After all, it's /v/
>>720725332so if I say something bad about ENA the schizo will assume I'm this guy and melt down for hours?>>720725632god she's so cute. to this day it makes me laugh that gays pretend she's somehow the most evil character ever... while gooning to "innocent" asriel of course
>>720725573>>720725780you just can't help yourself lol
>>720725332Undertale/Deltarune?
>>720725632Now draw her without clothes.
>>720725780Actually, you don't even need to say anything bad about ENA at all. He's convinced the hater is here and schizoposting in an UNDERTALE thread over it. And nobody itt even said anything bad about ENAs game. How does he (and his dozen shadow clones who appear to back him up) explain this behaviour?
>>720707567It’s still funny. /v/ old gags are still using the same Catalina gay porn memes from eras long gone.
>>720726145but anon someone said the game was boring back in May... you dont let shit like that go. you screenshot it and hold on to it forever. what kind of schizo would go and insult enas game like that?
>>720725029It'll at least have the user submissions used for the Echo Flower. Hopefully it'll have more strange and weird stuff too.
>>720725332>>720725780>>720726145>>720726294if you talk about ENA or its threads from this point onward your mother will die in her sleep tonight, applies to anyone who reads thisnow fuck off, shoo
>>720726145He can't so he decided to end the discussion. And strangely all the randomers on his side will also go quiet until he snaps again
>>720691615it's dess, toby is ripping off mother 3end of story
>>720721508Togore is such a forced meme, why do people like it again?
>>720727016He has a funny face
>>720727016it's prunsel for redditors
>>720727016>forced memei feel like this phrase gets applied pretty liberally these days, but man togore definitely feels like he fits itseeing him all over fucking wplace with the rest of the deltarune cast as if he wasn't some random meme OC but actually part of the game convinced me of that, i've seen that little shithead around more than goddamn dess and asriel
>>720692748>mike_BashfulYeah, I'll bash him full alright. (full of my sperm)
>>720727501worse, it's prunsel for tiktokers
>>720727016Reddit.
>>720725432blueberry
>>720727110Is he sweating because of her size, or because he's trying to hide his erection?
>>720716959Too bad Asriel's already taken.https://files.catbox.moe/y2eft1.jpg
>>720706771Just to be clear, the pants are purely metaphorical.
>>720728308Yes
>>720716959but that's not incest, that's just wanting to fuck your best friendif chara's into incest she'd want to fuck her dad, and considering she jumped down a hole in a mountain i'm gonna go with a "not likely" on that one
