are clementines good for you?
what went so wrong?
>>720691916managements2 and s3 had good stories in early development but the higher ups were uppity retards who demanded the devs to make the games they wanted instead of naturally continuing the story
>>720691884Fuck kenny.That is all.
>>720691916>Vulnerable adopted daughter you help teach to live in a terrible world>Less vulnerable adopted daughter that does her best to learn from the people she's surrounded by>Responsible adopted daughter who's capable of doing what's right when she needs to>AJ DID NOTHING WRONG AND NOW I'M LESBIAN BECAUSE WHY NOTShe had good character development at first, but damn she fell off hard.
>>720691884didn't "play" any game past the second one. what happens? I hope she found a BWC to have mixed race babies with
i'm still waiting
Why did Telltale nuke their art style for their later games?
>>720692287>AND NOW I'M LESBIAN BECAUSE WHY NOTYou know you can chose that, right?
>>720692674I never did beat it. It was the weakest story, so much so that I quit. Figured the kiss option was just a prelude.
>>720691884>>720691916puberty is a bitch
>>720692287aj was a mistakeit's pretty telling how nobody gave a shit about him until s4 where he was forced to be a character attached at the him with clementine granted making him a little psycho is funny but not at the expense of turning clementine into 'muh aj'
>>720693214Can't escape the wall. I understand the nip's idol culture more and more everyday.
>>720692781clementine can date louis or violet, she can also no way fag both of them and remain single (canon)if i'm being honest, i saw more chemistry with marlon (at least until he tries to kill her) and james (until he tries to take aj away/ gets the gay) than i did with either violet or louis although we all know who clementine would actually want if he wasn't dead
>>720693562they nerfed her eyesthat's why everyone fell in love with s2 clem, her eyes were a super striking yellowalso giving her tight jeans was borderline criminal, they knew what they were doing
>>720693969S2 is pretty peak.
>>720691916woketards
>clementine_(the_walking_dead) 112>like 14 posts in results um
>>720694559
Season 1 kinoSeason 2 beyond kinoSeason 3 mehSeason 4 meh
>>720691884Why was S3 so plastic-y?
>>720695673enshittification is law
>>720695673artstyle change + greaseit looks a lot better if you remove the oil filter
>>720692287>>AJ DID NOTHING WRONG AND NOW I'M LESBIAN BECAUSE WHY NOT>Anon didn't kept Clem pure and single.And it's (you)r job to teach AJ to not become a murderhobo, or you can go full psycho with him. I'm mixed on him but Clementine's motherly aspect are great, wife material.
why is she always wearing a puffy jacket? Those probably aren't very practical in a survival situation due to the sweating
>>720691916Looking whiter each season Im not kidding
>>720696054doesn't she only wear a puffy jacket in the latter half of s2 and the flashbacks of s3? iirc it's supposed to be late fall/ early winter in both of those situations
>>720693969Clem's black girl genes are doing the best they can to fight malnourishment
>>720696054If you're in a colder environment it's definitely practicalIt also adds a layer of protection against bites and scratches, much better to wear something thick than thin
>>720695440I really like that artist
https://vocaroo.com/15E13q208BxQ
>>720696298clementine has all the upsides of being half asian and half black with none of the downsides except for driving, she can't do that very well
>>720691884You'd think she'd get rid of that hat after all those years. It's gotta be disgusting.
>>720696471Her driving instructor had no depth perception
>>720693562She still grew up pretty>>720693969Her yellow/hazel eyes are great, it makes her design stand out more and enhance her death stare
>>720696593her hat is what gives her power, if any other person touches it they are doomed to die shortly afterit's also the last physical reminder she has of her parents and of lee, technically her just going 'haha it smells bad why don't you keep it' at the end of s4 pisses me off, she would be way more sentimental about the hat that's been with her through it all
>>720695440I've seen her playboy bikini
>>720691916Telltale never had a plan, they always kept writing on the fly due to executive meddling and changed shit mid-season. They also sometimes had dumb ideas and no foresight, like how A New Frontier didn't know if it wanted to be a soft-reboot or a new season and when they course corrected and tried to make their swan song, they company was literally on death's door and had no budget, all thanks to how many expensive licenses they bought to make games that would end up flopping because they spammed the market with their formula for years. It's a miracle the Final Season was even finished.
>>720697291it's even worse than thatthe writers did have a plan, they wrote multiple scripts for s2 and had at least one for s3 before management told them to toss it out and start over, multiple times that's why some shit gets dropped from episode to episode, the plotline it was for got forcibly removed in between episodes
>>720697291Here's the template if /v/ wants it
>>720692781Then why are you talking about the story of the game without beating it? Are you fucking retarded? Yes you are kys.
>>720697775Also
Currently replaying all of these for the first time in years, and it really is crazy how KINO Season 1 was, and how badly they dropped the ball with every single subsequent season. Season 2 had Kenny, at the very least, but nothing after the end of Season 1 feels anywhere even close to as compelling as Lee & Clem. If we're being honest, the entire series peaked at the Dairy. Also, was 400 Days really always that bad?
>>720697775Nice
>>720696789She kinda resigned herself when she lost it at the boat and I imagine she suppressed her feelings to focus on the task while the boat was exploding, maybe it was like she already mourned the loss while she was recovering from the bite, I would still have liked more excitement when she saw it again. I like to think AJ and the kids would eventually stitch it back and make it look nicer as a gift, I could see AJ saying something "You look weird without it" and gifting it back. You know if those comics are not canon
>>720697775
>>720698192NOOOOOOOOO
>>720698165given the lack of awareness among most people and the poor reception among those who do know about it, i wouldn't be surprised if they are ignored or declared a 'what if' scenario if they rumoured season 5 turns out to be trueit would also be stupid of skybound to constrain themselves to the events of some niche comic that barely anybody read if they want to do more with clementine, given that she's one of the most popular characters in the franchise
>>720698090I consider 400 Days as part of S1, that's how good it was. Top-tier characters like Nate and Becca, and they didn't do shit with them later on. Maybe in the earlier drafts of S2, but the 400 Days crew just had shitty cameos in the final version.
>>720692476She canonically loses her virginity to a Jewish dyke, who is also the author's blatant self insert.
>>720698090400 days only feels shitty because you know it ultimately amounted to nothing, by itself it's a neat little glimpse into what other people were up to around and after the events of s1 and a cool teaser into the s2 that never wasi also think s2e1 is one of the best episode in the series by itself, the crushing isolation for clementine is palpable and it really hammers in how helpless she actually is in the world, every fight she gets into feels like a huge struggle, like it should
>>720698630400 days was incredibly brief and I just didn't like it very much. Nate was cool, but playing the DLC didn't feel satisfying to me in the slightest. I also expected it to be (and remembered it being) much longer than it actually was. I'd much rather it have been a whole episode rather than 5 micro-episodes, even if it was a novel idea.
>>720698090The farm is probably the strongest individual episode from S1, I remember how my brother caught me playing the episode and saw the whole thing because it piqued his interest. Kinda hard to build a compelling relationship like Lee and Clem, with how many characters just drop like flies during the seasons and the most important person left for Clem is the toddler of two unpopular s2 characters, they had make do with what they could by the end.
>>720698898I don't ever want to replay S1 just because I feel so fucking bad on the whole dog thing
>>720698630there are some cut animations in s2e3 that involve the s2 cast, like shel holding a rifle, but if there was any more it got scrubbed when the episode shipped outa very prevalent theory is that eddie was supposed to play a major role in s2e4, given how he's the only other visible person on the tile card asides from clementine, the idea is that arvo replaced eddie's role, given that arvo uses the same gun eddie/ wyatt use and how 400 days music plays during the arvo encounter
>>720698898They really should've stuck with the dark script for Season 2, or whatever it was called, imo. It *did* open pretty strongly with Clementine on her own, but I can't say I gave a shit about a single one of the characters in the new group except Pete, who's condemned to Scripted Death within 5 minutes of meeting him. Fuck Nick and Fuck Becca.
>>720693636It's pretty funny how they unintentionally made Clem's taste in guys be dorks, both her male friends and love interests follow that pattern
>>720692287Lesbian was the only way for her. No man can match her, so she needs a woman for her to top.
>>720699018I remembered pretty much every single main beat of Season 1 perfectly even after all these years, and I still had so much more enjoyment from every second of it than I did playing 400 Days, Season 2, or Season 3 so far. I haven't gotten to Season 4 again yet, but I remember it being a real mixed bag for me even when it came out. Michonne is... Michonne.Season 3 I'd honestly say has much stronger characters than Season 2, but what they do to Kenny is unforgivable and as far as I recall Season 3 has pretty much zero consequence on S4 because nobody from it even shows up later.Eleanor is hot though.
>>720699020it's such a raw and fucked up moment, not even five minutes ago clementine and sam were bumming around the camp any playing with a frisbee and now he's trying to kill her over a can of beansit tells both clementine and the player that you can't trust anyone out there, not anymore
>>720691884Are there any nude mods?
>>720691884she got fat in season 3 hahah fatty fuck fat
>>720699069i honestly don't even care if it would've been shitty, every single thing we know about it sounds super interesting and i really want to know how it was supposed to play out
>>720699224Still so crazy that Christa just... Disappears after the very beginning of S2. iirc she was supposed to last to the end of the season but she got cut, god knows how or why.Telltale has (or had, I guess) such a terrible habit for making your choices utterly worthless through a lot of ways, but the "deaths and disappearances between games you can't avoid" (Omid, Kenny, Jane, Christa, etc) are some of the absolute worst.
>>720698630I remember actually liking Bonnie as a character before Season 2, what a slap to the face that was when she ended up being the absolute worstI was really looking forward to Vince, Wyatt, Becca and Nate the Great, but fuck everything I guess
>>720699397I think if they'd actually done it, and had the game end with Clem dying, there would've been *insane* outrage from fans in the same way that there was for Joel being killed at the start of TLoU2. Would it have been kino? Probably, if they'd done it right, but I honestly don't think they could've done it without a tidal wave of negative backlash.
You guys think they're going to do a season 5 after all for a quick buck like Life Is Strange did
>>720699197something i find interesting about s2 that nobody ever brings up is that clementine is still mourning duck, more so than anyone else from s1 asides from lee that i can tellshe mentions him when looking at the duck painting in the cabin in s2e1, is freaked out when kenny accidentally calls her duck (although that's understandable even if she wasn't still sad about him), and even in her flashback with lee she tells him that she feels bad about calling duck a crybaby over the bug on his pillow incident that happened two years ago and she still regrets that she never apologized for it, something so small is still on her mind
>>720699557I honestly thought they were gonna have Leland fill the role of Carver in S2 or something, they look incredibly similar. Yet another character they did absolutely nothing with.
>>720699478her getting cut was management fucking around, the original s2 story was all about her and clementine getting over their issues on their way to wellington99% of the issues that plagued telltale was management doing stupid shit and making the devs change things on a whim
>>720699060Yeah, Vince is also in the back on the left there, and in the ps3 beta version I think you could see Russell(?) also in the lineup. But I think you could take everything with a grain of salt, because Doug and Carley's models are also two of them,I'm just really miffed that S2 dropped the ball with the 400 Days cast, I really wanted to see them featured more prominently in the season.
>>720699596One of the 10 billion reasons they should've kept Kenny around. Clementine's relationship with Kenny was not concluded in the *slightest*, and he was the absolute best shot at reigniting a parent-child relationship between clem and someone else.Season 3 with Kenny as the player-character going to Florida with Clem would've been so, so good. Instead he got a 2 minute flashback.
>>720699579given how brutal the dark script apparently was, i think it could've been done in a way that didn't feel shoehornedremember, in one of the endings there's a slim chance she lives, but at the cost of ajadd on that s2 was originally the end of the series it makes sense that they would want a conclusive ending even if reception at the time was poor, i think it would've quickly elevated itself into legendary status as one of the darkest stories in vidya
>>720699715They could even have kept her as a character for a potential Season 3 or 4 though, it would've been absurdly easy."Is a woman named Christa here?""Yeah, I think so!"
>>720699872I don't disagree, I just don't think they had the stomach for it. I also think a lot of the reason that they went with a whole different setting for Season 3, with basically zero ties to the previous games (other than Clem and AJ, obviously) is that they felt boxed in by their story at that point. It's just a shame to see what we could've gotten.
>>720699723idk about russell, but there is another person that's behind clementine on all but one of the ps3 versions of the title cardi think carley and doug were supposed to just be generic filler people, and vince was later changed to kinda look like kenny without his hat
>>720699217>Season 3 I'd honestly say has much stronger characters than Season 2I think they are even for me. From S2, I don't care much for Alvin, Carlos, Rebecca, Sarita, Mike, Arvo and Bonnie but the same I can say for S3 with the likes of Kate, Gabe, Trip, Eleanor, Ava and Joan who might as well be the worst antagonist from the series, the entire New Frontier as a faction might as well be nothing because even the characters from their council do nothing. Only Javi and David have something going on but the love triangle hold things back because Kate herself is underdeveloped and made a 180° in goals between episodes, Mariana died to early and exists as shock value, Conrad living is pretty neat but it feels like a tech demo that makes you wonder why they didn't do it like this early.
>>720700125the wild thing about s3 is that it was originally supposed to tie into the prior seasons a lot morepeople often complain that clementine feels forced, but the opposite is more true clementine was much more important to the story in earlier versions, but yet again management tossed out the story because 'it didn't fit in with the walking dead'as if a brother cuckolding story did, but that's what we got
>>720692207ok sarita
>>720700283iirc kate herself was added in later in development than most of the other casti don't even think she was in the first story, javi's family was david, marianna, and gabethere's another girl that was added later on called grace, in some old artwork there's a blonde chick with a ponytail, that's herpresumably she played a similar role to kate but we don't know for certain
>>720700283I kept Conrad alive as long as possible and didn't regret it. I like Tripp and Eleanor much more than I did pretty much any of the S2 characters, though the family drama shit is really cliched and not compelling at all (same with Joan). I can't stand Gabe and I really despise the "useless character who can't do anything and literally just fucks things up" archetype (Ben, Sarah, Gabe). I feel like these games shouldn't make you *happy* when someone in your group dies - though with Ben it was slightly different because you at least had a GOOD reason to hate him. Sarah is probably the worst character in the entire series for me, I couldn't wait to get rid of her which just feels wrong for this kind of game: I didn't even feel that about Ben.I'm not done with S3 yet so I can't say conclusively if Gabe is another Ben/Sarah, but he definitely seems to be, I just dont remember the rest too well.
I cannot take Clementine as a protagonist in season 2 seriously because like how is an 11 year old girl this important and making all these choices?
>>720700364The main thing I dislike about S3 is that it seems to very purposefully try to drive a wedge between you, playing as Javi, and Clementine, who you are very obviously going to be siding with as much as possible.
>>720699557In hindsight, we should've known she was a scheming bitch from the start since she goes with Tavia no matter your decisions.
>>720700664This makes Carver talking to Clem like she's the leader of her group all the more absurd. Sure he's possibly grooming her from a young age for a potential "successor" role or w.e, but come on, this is an 11 year old.
>>720700731that's one of those things that makes sense in the original story clementine and javi were supposed to be prison buddies after being captured by the new frontier, and both of them would be trying to get their families backthey shared a common goal, so working together to achieve it is a natural response
>>720699397The only comments we have on it are you either stay with AJ and get slowed down and potentially die of hypothermia, or leave him to lessen Clem's burden to run towards some city light.In my opinion S2 being bad really didn't start being a thing until S3 came around and squandered any choice you made, that likely still would have happened, so I doubt the edgy script really would have been that kino. Odds are both would have been saved in S3. Even if S3 wasn't going to exist, its TT's most popular game and the one that brings in money, of course they would have made one eventually.
>>720691884Does she ever show her feet?
>>720700775she's a wishywashy cunt, she always goes with whoever she thinks will keep her safeshe's with leland until it's not safe, she's with the 400 days people until she learns about somewhere safer, she leaves carver's when she feels unsafe, she abandons clementine's group when kenny makes her feel unsafeshe's only in it for #1, she's written well imo but she's such a reprehensible character hating her is a natural reaction her shittalking clementine after she fucks luke over because clementine didn't listen to her nonsense is just icing on the cake, at least you can let her drown too
>>720700796Carver got impressed by how she handled their encounter at the cabin, no normal 11 year old acts the way she does and he could smell the potential.
>>720701048>Answer him with absolutely nothing but silence"We aren't so different, you and I..."
>>720700938we have some unused assets and know a few more to paint a bit of a picture of how it was going to goadmittedly everything past s2e3 is completely unknown outside of a church being in s2e4 and the ending
>>720701132even rebuffing him with stone cold silence is impressive, she doesn't crack when every other one of the cabin bitches would've
>>720701227This is true, but that speaks less to Clementine's admittedly very mature for her age (uohhhh) character and more to the fact that every single character in that group is written like a baby with absolutely zero agency or backbone, including the multiple grown-ass men and supposed leader of the group.Pete, the only exception to this, dies within a few minutes of us meeting him. To his credit, Alvin at least goes out with a bang, but might as well be wallpaper beforehand.
>>720697775Rare Clem>>720701132>Doesn't flinch when interrogated>She's just like me.
>>720692535Good game
>>720701472i think carver was supposed to be much more tyrannical when s2e1 and s2e1 were being writtenwe know from troy's va that troy was much worse in the script than he was in the final game, i'm willing to bet carver was as wellalvin being a big nothingburger is due to the scene that was supposed to actually give him a character was cut out, at the end of s2e1 nick, pete, alvin, luke, and clemetine were supposed to go to the fish traps and catch fishclementine would be with alvin and he would talk to her while catching fish, and tease her if she was bad at it
>>720691916TTG start shoveling out their games so hard that they oversaturated their own market, and all o[f them were attached to big budget IPs, walking dead aside there are Tell Tale games for:>Batman>Guardians of the Galaxy>Minecraft>Game of Thrones>BorderlandsAnd even more projects with shit like Stranger Things and probably more. You get the picture.Thing is their games don't sell, so they were paying big bucks on licensing fees that weren't actually paying back.And to be honest unless the writing is absolute god tier like TWD S1, you can basically get the full experience of any Telltale game on youtube.
>>720701753>Everything come out alright girls?Troy was so comically (get it?) evil it's funny, but I wish they'd done more with him
>>720702174carver and his gang are a weird one because from what i can tell they weren't ever intended to be a thing past s2e3, or at least carver wasn't honestly despite how little of troy we actually get he can beat the shit out of clementine pretty good, iirc he can slap the shit out of her when getting her for the radio thing and then smash her face with a rifle stock if she tries to help kenny and this is the 'toned down' version of him
>>720702174Back in the day when I was a kid I didn't even know he was voiced by the man, the myth, the legend Michael Madsen
>>720691916flanderized characters doing increasingly unhinged thingsspending all of their money on licensingnone of the decisions you make mattering
>>720702457I was reminded of that just before replaying S2 and my god does he sound good. I will give Telltale credit, I really can't complain about any of their voice actors other than that *one* Sarita scream. Nothing else in anything I've replayed so far has stood out to me as being poor, and honestly a lot of the main characters have damn good VAs. Took me years to realise Clem was voiced by a middle-aged white woman
>>720691916quit after S2 because you could tell every episode was created by a different person and they absolutely hated each other>fuck the other S1 survivors Clem's on her own as an outsider with a whole new cast>fuck the new cast here's Kenny and here's my ultra cool big bad for the season>yo fuck your big bad I'm killing him and also fuck Kenny's girlfriend check out this new chick Jane she's cool>no fuck you Jane's leaving and we're killing the autistic girl you've been babysitting this whole time it's all about Kenny again and also Russians for some reason>no fuck YOU Jane is back okay she just is and now the whole season was actually about her and Kenny despite those two never even fucking talking to each other all game also fuck the rest of the survivor group you found at the start they never matterednever before have I played something where it felt like I was having to awkwardly listen to a bunch of writers screaming at each other over what the fuck the story is supposed to beS1 worked because despite all the flaws that relationship you form with Clem keeps you moving forward, and it feels worth it in the end.I don't think Telltale ever managed to capture that again.
>>720702587you mean the scream at the end of s2e3? that one always takes me out of it because it's so clearly the same one the girl getting surrounded at the start of s1e3 makes
>>720701472I think what they were going for with the Cabin Group was that they had no real experience surviving on their own long term because they spend most of their time in Howe's under Carver. The way they ran things makes me think that there was no leader, they talks things out and put them to vote, we can hear them having a calm discussion about what to do with Clem when she enters the cabin. Pete seems like the guy that while not the leader, was the tie-breaker that everyone would look for advice, both Luke and Nick answer to him, and his death seems very deliberate. He seems to be the most calm, rational and competent person of the group, vouches for Calm and even wants to teach her things but he might as well have died by a bite to the heel, to show how even the most capable person can die due to one small mistake, and then have the group start to fall into disarray because for the way things worked for them, when one piece falls, the whole house crumbles.
>>720702683For Season 1, it helps they actually had a plan. They knew what the ending was going to be.
>/ttgg/ gets exiled to cripplechan>Crawls back after it dies>Their shitty forum RP dies>They spend every month sadposting on 4chanJust want to give a specific fuck you to Bandito and Cuftburt, you're both autistic schizos and I hope you both killed yourselves.
>>720702730i think you're dead on with pete, iirc in the earlier versions of s2e1 going with pete wasn't an option, he would just be deadclementine would choose between going with nick or going with luke and alvin, who were there before the shit got cut and the scene changed
>>720702828Yeah but who's your favorite character tho
>>720702828/ttgg/ was full of based pedophilechad posting and I miss that every single day.
>>720702730I think you're 100% right, and if that's what they wanted then they did that very well.The problem is that I just... don't care? for the rest of the group. I imagine it would've worked far better with a group made up of characters who, even while flawed, were the least bit compelling.
>>720702828Every month?There has been a TWD/Clementine thread on /v/ every day this week.
>>720703146i get the feeling that the cabin group was supposed to be a lot more antagonistic towards clementine early onboth rebecca and carlos make it very clear that they don't like her and don't want her around, and are only tolerating her because of pete and luke i assume there may have been a relationship system kinda like lilly and kenny in s1 where clementine could side with certain people and gain more favour with thembut then s2e2 just has carlos and rebecca just apologize and accept clementine into the grouppersonally i think it could've been interesting if the only reliable ally clementine had with the cabin group being luke, with the options to have nick and sarah vouch for her as well depending on how you treat themalvin is another option, but he always caves to rebecca, maybe he would help her out on the down low like with the juice box when she isn't looking
>>720702828God I forgot there was an RPI wonder if my character profile is somewhere still
>>720703392twd is fun to talk about and clementine is the greatest daughteru in vidya history the threads will likely burn out soon and go dormant again, have fun while they last
>words words wordssex with season one or bust
>>720703456I think there are very clear hints of them wanting to do this, and it's something they just never did.Alvin asking for Clem to give him a can of food "just between us" for Rebecca (this amounts to nothing), the not-my-daughter-but-daughter thing with Carlos that they do incredibly half-heartedly, and other decisions that just don't do anything come to mind.
>>720702889I will forever mourn the fishing minigame that was cut. >>720703146Yeah I get the feeling too, my problem was that they set up arcs with them, Nick, Sarah and Carlos, Rebecca have interesting interactions with Clem and point to unique dynamics within the group but there's no resolution to these plot threads because they do nothing in EP 3 and by EP 4 they are all dead and replaced by the randoms from Howie's. There was supposedly more for them, Nick I think had like many cut lines in EP 3, and one glaring problem was the removal of hubs to interact with others like in S1, there's rarely any even though Howe's and its pen would work well for that.
>>720703642another thing to add to the tragedy of season 2
>>720703721howes was 100% supposed to have a lot of hub sections, the concept art and the area itself are just begging to be explored unfortunately according to the devs the hub segments were a hard sell to management, something about them having to show the rough drafts and management not liking the way it looked/ played, so they had to make the game more linear as a result
>>720703743>S2: Still not bitten>S4: I got bitwhat a character assassination
>>720691916>FemMC>Girlboss>LGBTI'm so sick of modern video games
>>720704042>clementine defiantly and angrily declares that she isn't bitten, and never was>this is one of the most iconic scenes in the series>when telltale dies a group of devs call themselves the stillnotbitten team to finish s4>they make clementine get bit actual hacks working at the company, it should've been aj who got bitthey could bullshit him to live too, they clearly were willing to handwave the impossibility of clementine surviving in the barn with only a 5 year old to remove, cauterize, and then transport an injured clementine then they could do it for a 16 year old doing the same for someone half her size
>>720704212>carries on the final wishes of the first malemc>gets her shit rocked constantly and is emotionally tortured from her life experiences >is only gay if (you) make herclementine is the antithesis of woke, she needs a good nap for once in her life
>>720691884S1 and S4 are the only good seasons, S3 is one of the worst games I’ve ever played
a lot less uoooooh in the thread than I had anticipated
>>720704637season 3 sucks ass but it's almost comedic in how it does soseason 2 just makes me depressed on how good it could've been
>>720704367I want to tuck her in a giver a good night kiss>>720704648I love Clem but I also like to talk about the games
>>720704648clementine is for hug, not fug
>>720704261They knew they would get the strongest emotions from players by almost killing Clem, seeing how mixed some are on AJ as a character they were probably right.
>>720705797maybe, but i think clementine regressing back to the 9 year old in the jewellery store, even if just for a moment, could've been equally as powerful
>>720705645I was her age when I played the games so I thereby have the right to want to fuck her for the rest of my life
>>720706304it's true, it's called the misty rule
>>720704909how long would she be out for if she could sleep without worry?
>>720704261The fact that AJ saved clem is very unbelievable.
>>720700364Clementine's inclusion in the final game is weird, she has no reason for sticking around and even at the start she's looking for a reason to get away, it's kinda implied at the beginning that the New Frontier has a bounty on her or that she left in very bad terms with them, seeing how she acted with the idea of encountering them again, like it was a life or death thing but in the flashbacks it wasn't that harsh, sure they were dicks and kicked her out but not in the sense that they almost killed her. Removing the original idea just brought more problems than solutions.And even in the final game, I find that Clem has a lot of potential narrative foils, with a few explored but not by much. She's similar to Javi in the sense that she's left with a responsibility that she didn't ask but tried to do the best out of the situation, maybe due their own guilt from past failures they are taking care of kids that are not their own. With David is the exact opposite, he's a man with a big responsibility that he never felt comfortable or adequate in assuming thanks to trauma, yet he encounters a girl around his children's age, trying to do what he couldn't, they could have explored Clem's own reluctance in taking care of a kid, if she's fit for taking responsibility after all the things she's gone through being so young. Joan is so undercooked as an antagonist but I find funny that she and Clem did similar things, both are willing do wrong things for what they think is the best for their own, one stole from other communities if it meant that her own would be safe and well fed, while the other stole from the community if it meant AJ would be cured, even if that could hurt someone else down the line. The "We aren't so different, you and I..." applies here. Even with Kate and the motherly aspects of "taking care of kids that are not her own" could have something going one with Clementine.
>>720708289I'm pretty sure that S4 and TTG wanted everyone to forget that New Frontier happened
>>720708289i never picked up on the similarities between joan and clementine, that's pretty interesting speaking of joan, i'm not even sure what her role was initially, i know the main antagonist was this guy called mason, and his no. 2 was this cowboy guy, was joan still the third member of the leadership group or was she added later?i know mason and the cowboy's models got reused as lingard and clint, and that joan was eleanor's mother, but not really anything else asides from that
>>720708103yeah, even the devs admitted they were bullshitting with that one for a happy ending, but since skybound ok'd it they were in the clear
>>720708848 Joan being Eleanor's mom was such a weird detail to leave on the cutting room floor, it could’ve added at least some weight to her presence-especially since Eleanor ends up flipping sides. From what I remember digging through dev leaks and those old GDC talks, Joan was a last-minute reshuffle. Mason was supposed to be this iron-fist leader who had kinda cult-leader vibes, and the cowboy (I think his name was Holt or something?) was more of an enforcer type, like the muscle of the bunch. Joan was added as they pivoted to focus on more “moral gray area” leadership with a clean presentation-the idea being she’s the “face” that sells the New Frontier's order to the masses.When they shitcanned Mason’s arc, they Frankenstein’d his concept into Lingard with the whole “disillusioned leader turned junkie” shtick, while Clint inherited a cleaned-up version of the cowboy’s personality (minus any actual menace). That’s why Clint and Joan’s dynamic feels so uneven. Clint’s clearly written as a die-hard loyalist to a character we never actually meet.Classic TTG-start strong, throw it all in a blender halfway through, and then panic-finish the rest.
it's to have this but not my LOLI THREADS? HYPOCRITES
Only played season 1 and the wolf among us. Both were good and I think I made the right call by never playing another TTG again.
>>720704212i have no idea what the fuck a girlboss is
>>720700560Yeah makes sense she's a late addition. I also been thinking about how Clem sorta steals Kate spot in many ways and shares similarities: Taking care of children that are not their own, both have negative opinions on David and try to get Javi to accept those negative qualities, both are Javi's most trusted companion (Kate is supposed to be thanks to all the years with him, while Clem actually becomes that with how many times she's got his back). One moment that sticks with me is, when David and Javi are beating the shit out of each other, who is the one that separates them? Gabe who sees both as parental figures? Kate who finally steps up and defends Javi from David, finally sure of her feelings even if they are not reciprocated? Nope, it's Clementine, who sees the situation as it is, a stupid fight where she has to use force from keeping two adults from killing each other, like she would have liked to do years ago. Imagine getting mogged by the 13 year old as a more trusted companion for the main lead, than the actual love interest. Fuck, I think Clem taught Gabe more things than Kate on-screen, so she gets even some motherly points over Kate with her own step-child
>>720709018a lot of the blendering was not the choice of the writers, but of management i know there was a cut sequence at the start of s3e1, right after the opening with javi's family, where we would get to play out clementine's first dayit would start right after the phonecall in the s2e5 trailer and clementine's backyard would be a little hub area of sorts, she would go around getting all her stuff before going inside and playing with sandra (hide and seek iirc)at some point she would hear scratching at the door and sandra would check it outi'm sure you can imagine what happens after that
>>720709209kate's such weird character because the game gives you zero incentive to like her if you don't care for her romanceher first scene is her resenting having to take care of marianna and gabe, why the fuck did she marry david if she didn't want to deal with the kids? she feels more like an antagonist than anything, and as manufactured as the fight between david and javi is in s3e5, it's pretty fucked up that kate goes out of her way to cause it for no real reason other than spite
>>720693461good heavens this, AJ was beyond annoying.that trope is always annoying af in survival situation vidya/shows
>>720691884S1 and s2 she's cunny kino.>>720691916They made her into a hag instead of keeping her age 12 max starting s3.She should had been:S2 9S3 10S4 11
>>720709583a lot of people go on about not being able to imagine how the series would've gone without aj, but honestly i doubt it could've been too different all clementine really needs is another character to talk to throughout the season, in s2 it was kenny/ luke, in s3 it was javii get clementine is capable of taking care of herself, but no 11 year old is going to be able to take care of a newborn by herself for more than a couple days topsi think what makes it worse is that aj is rebecca's baby, and she's most often remembered for being a turbo bitch in s2e1, the player has zero incentive to care about him and really only does because clementine does
>>720709675all i'm going to say is s1 hoodie clem is peak daughteru, would hug
>>720705645factually correct, that hat was made for pattin'
>>720709993She looks so tough, would give all my apples to her
>>720710139i wonder if the real reason why she likes aj so much is because she keeps thinking his name is actually apple juice
>>720709993Agreed
Is this worth playing at all or should I just ignore it?
>>720710718it's pretty whatever and has the classic problem of introducing plot elements that are dropped on a whim
>>720709431They felt into the same pitfalls they avoided in S1, giving the MC pre-determined relationships, like how instead of Lee, the player would be Clem's brother. And the time-skips and flashbacks don't do her any favors, one scene is the first day of the outbreak and the other one is years later with Javi, there's a dissonance between what the players and the characters know. And the fight at the end is so stupid, like Kate is just rage baiting David even if you let Kate know how Javi feels, which is stupid because scenes before they all saw how violent David can get with one of the New Frontier members. She's a mess all around.
>>720709993Do we know if the model in 1 has full body torso? It looks the you could remove her shirt.
>>720711092i think it wouldn't be so bad if everyone wasn't so dislikeable in s3the only character that doesn't bitch out javi is marianna, and she's the shock ch1 kill i guess clementine can be chill with javi, but that runs into the narrative issue of why would javi give a shit about some random 13 year old he just met the first story for s3 had the right idea where we don't really get to see javi's family until much later, most of the story is about javi and clementine's goal and co-operation
>>720691884thread theme song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfBFSCjAeWc
>>720711259She's just cool like that. But yeah, the original idea sounds like it solves a bunch of issues that were created with rewrites
>>720692535>>720701689Overrated game. Episode 1 is the only good episode, the rest is badly animated WHERE IS THE JOKER slop
>>720691916
>>720692207>janefags still seething lmao
>>720711828as long as the sun shall rise, kenny vs jane will continue
>>720711729clementine should've called up javi for some backup to deal with lilly's nonsense in s4, given that the delta was at war with richmond iirc then again, their elite child kidnapping team was defeated by a 16 year old and some sheltered retarded kids, it might've been too unfair
I really enjoyed the Javier/Clem interactions.
>>720692185I hated S4's near the ending or whatever the one with the zombie whisperer revelation being gay. Because you have 1000% reasonable setup for survivors to hate/fear him because he's a 'different' (like zombie whisperer views zombies having humanity) , but nooo imply that they hate/fear him because he's different as in he's gay (it's post-apocalypse, nobody cares). I played it in around 2020/21, and when that 'revelation' came I rolled my eyes so high up my eye socket and realized this game came out around 2018 era so of course, that's the time when orangeman was in office so of course they switched to pandering when it was popular at that time.And if you choose to have him survive, he instead got turned into a moral puritan psychopath the next episode. So fuck it, I'd rather just spare the villain over letting this wasted potential turned into even worst character. I'm super annoyed because I thought Clementine meshes well with him but fuck it lets just throw that potential around for some brownie points.
>>720712251i knew he was gay but only because other people say he is, i think clementine has to come on to him for him to admit thatnot that it isn't kinda dumb, honestly james was the only dude in s4 that i could see clementine realistically having a relationship as well even if they disagree on the zombie souls thingyou can sorta win him over if he lives into s4e4, you just have to argue with aj and him carefully, i got him to hold off the zombies and left him 'conflicted'i'll never understand why people go crazy about clementine being with louis or violet, both of them are pretty cliches and annoying in their own ways
>>720711867I dont understand why though, its not even a debate. You either picked Kenny or you were wrong.
>>72071248490% of janefags are only fighting in her name because they don't want to admit they only chose her because pussy and not because they agreed with her views i can safely say that i originally got the wellington ending way back when, although i prefer the leaving with kenny ending better these days
>>720712610many such cases!
>>720692287>AND NOW I'M LESBIAN BECAUSE WHY NOT2015-2024 were the worst years for videogames because every MC had to be gay or in some other way "special". This is the first year in a long time where we see games just being shit because publishers don't even know what people want, not because they force devs to put gays everywhere.
>>720709872shouldve made it christas baby
>>720691884>Season Five
>>720713654it's a weird one because both omid dying and christa losing her baby were things the s1 writers came up withalthough oj and clementine does sound like a more natural duo than aj and clementine now that i think about it
>>720712251I thought the main reason was because he was Whisperer, mostly because the scene when he mets the rest of the kids and he's nervous when shows he wears a zombie mask to blend in, they instead react like that's the coolest shit ever and Willy even approaches him to ask him how he did it, he gets overwhelmed but admits to Clem they seem like a good bunch and it's thinking of joining. Him being gay seems like an excuse to why Clem can't romance him more than anything lmao>>720712421I really like to call his ideas shit but I do prefer to try to win him over because, he could be useful in the future and it's good for Clem to vent some steam about how fucking tired she is about fighting for survival but at least has come to terms that ugly shit has to be done to live another day, feels good to actually be able to explain yourself to a character and see him consider the alternative. I also like how aggressive she can get in that scene.>"I swear I'll claw your fucking eyes out."
>>720713730cease
>>720713769people talk about how psycho s2 clementine can be but s4 clementine would be put on a watch list for some of the insane shit she can do/ say to peopleable can call her an evil cunt depending on how you torture him and i don't disagree with him with some of the shit she can do to him there
>>720691884Great, a pedo thread.Exactly what this board needed.
>>720714030Great, a moralfag. Exactly what nobody ever asks for.
>played the whole S1 and S2>enjoyed them (and Clem) a lot but it's still a movie game which I'm not a fan of>don't want to replay them, but also can't play 3+ because can't remember what happened in 2All I remember is that the ending was so retarded and anticlimactic I dropped the series. Are 3+ seasons get better?
>>720691884Maybe?
>>720691884>Eggless by season 2
>>720691884>Season 1&2: white mix>Season 3: black>Season 4: brown
>>720714354mr animator should have given her some gloves or mittens, hands against snow gets cold real fast
>>720714678She's falling asleep out in the open with no additional protection, clearly she's delusional from hypothermia
>>720714030Nigger, we are actually talking about the video games.>>720714263Fuck man, there's like 4 endings. Do you at least remember who do you end up with? S3 is largely divisive, depends how you feel about the direction. S4 is considered decent and is an ending at least, Clem continues to be great there and mechanically there's some actual gameplay like small combat and shooting sections, nothing too crazy but it's clear they were pushing their old engine to its limits.
>>720714306God dammit look at how fucking flat she is, god damn that's hot
>>720713894Years of unpacked trauma and a talent for violence would do that. She's totally fine.
>>720699813Tbh a dual Kenny/Clem season would be great, to show they are like equals at that point
>>720708340Crazy how her S4 model has the New Frontier brand but there's never a reason to show it
my FUARKING hero
>>720704637>S4>good
>>720716448I liked it
I had my problems with AJ but I liked how he didn't want to kill Clementine and would rather get bite too and stay with her, forever just the two of them in peace. All he ever wanted was to be with her.
