When did you grow out of emulation?
explain the difference between an emulator and modded consoles
It's actually insane just how much better MiSTer is than trash software emulators.
>>720693451one is actual hardwarethe other is emulating that hardware
>>720693753you're an actual retard
>>720693884Says the one asking retarded question. >whats the difference between a modded wii u and dolphin
>>720693993can a modded WiiU hit 60fps
>>720693391>When did you grow out of emulation?Never.I'm not some drooling mongoloid retard like you.
>>720693391Is this implying that emulation is in fact better and is only shit on shit on by those desperately trying to keep up the illusion of superiority or is it just "funny may may agrees with me XD" with no connection to the original context?
>>720694693The original joke is they always act like they're better because they *are* better. The meme is used properly.
>>720694648decomp and recomp ports are better, and even a bad pc port for an older mutiplat game is preferred due to modding.
>>720693391ZAAAAMN the shilling is getting desperate. no im not buying your ewaste even if it costs $30
>>720693391Literally, there is no reason to have the og hardware when emulator can run 1000 times better and completely substitute the original (exception for ps3, x360 and DS consoles) you are delusional>>720694427Aren't these fps interpolated?>>720693526Doesn't these run like super retro consoles?
>>720693391i like emulation for ds, it's about the only system where higher than native resolution is interesting because for some reason almost every game has higher texture detail than you'll ever be able to make out at native
>>720693993you have completely misunderstood what it means by 'original hardware' being separate from 'modded console'. 'original hardware' doesn't mean you're using a disc to play the game, it means you, somehow, are playing n64 games on an n64.shit like modding your vita to play SNES games is what 'modded console' means. it's just running an emulator on your vita. hence the original question: what's different between 'modded console' and 'emulation'?
>>720693753flashcarts for older consoles you can't mod are just too expensive
>>720693391I find the idea of the MiSTER pretty cool and if i had one, i probably would even write some core just for fun.But you made me hate it.You, (you)I don't want to be like you, so i'm not getting a MiSTERSimple as.
>>720694869and yet all the DS games i emulate are 2D VNs
>>720694847Actual underage gen alpha post. Fuck off you colossal retard. Go clap like a seal at le funny tiktok videos
what's with all the mister shilling?
>>720693391Why do hardware trannies always act like playing with worse performance and resolution is better?
>>720694893>shit like modding your vita to play SNES games is what 'modded console' means. it's just running an emulator on your vita. hence the original question: what's different between 'modded console' and 'emulation'?if that's your definition of it, the difference is windows usb polling jitter
>>720693391I stopped using my MiSTer, original hardware and other FPGA systems. These days I'm using an Anbernic handheld. I just couldn't be bothered anymore.
>>720695250actually the software input handler in general, i suppose the usb polling itself is usually fine
>>720694961Kek, literally me, l download drastic only to play AA, thankfully it is a capcom IP and now l can play on PC>>720695002>Corpo shill trying to defend an old hardware that the company doesn't give a fuck anymoreEmbarrassing>>720695225They are coping with the fact that they bought newer consoles that have no games and zero backward compatibility, meanwhile PC chads play everything
>pc trannies justify their overpriced toys>by playing two-decade-old Nintendo gamescomedy
nowadays I only emulate when I'm playing a long jrpg and going for 100% completion
>>720695225Any sort of purist type tends to be a huge faggot about their authentic experiences and when they see that almost nobody cares, get kinda grumpy about it.
>>720695053i'm 99% sure it's actual paid shills just here because research said 4chan likes old thingsi've seen 3 threads on this pos today
>>720693391fucking LOL at ANYTHING but original hardware being depicted there. Massive cope. Original hardware > emulation > anything else because it costs money
Mmmm I love playing Goldeneye at 15 fps.
>>720693526She shouldn't be doing that with the machine connected to the power source.
>mods foam at the mouth over uma musume threads>13 mister threads is okay thoughExplain
>>720693391Never. I still use retroarch because it's convenient. Only tinker trannies and NEETs use anything else.
>>720693391It's literally free games lmaoAlso I don't have autism so I don't care about "original hardware"Also I am 40 and grew up with the consoles
should I get a modded Wii if I want to emulate stuff on my CRT?
>>720693391When publishers of games started to sell emulated games instead of making actual native ports. Have some fucking respect for your games. Emulation is only acceptable when it's free.
Why shit on emulation when its eventually going to be the only option?
>>720694427That's not the intended experience the game was designed around so yeah it is inferior to real hardware.yy4at
>>720694869>I like seeing the clash between vectorizable assets vs hardcoded ones.Actual subhuman.
>>720695053Shills got new stuff to push so they're getting paid their $3 to fuck up /v/ and /vr/ for the next week
>>720693391dont forget>decompiled pc port
>>720698089Modded console is better purely for gaming because otherwise you have to deal with the retarded retro game market. I'm not going to pay a thousand bucks for a 25 year old game.
>>720698428My PS2 is probably going to outlive me
Availability > Reliability > Convenience >>> Performance >>> Minute details of "Authenticity"I don't give a shit if something is ran by on original hardware, software emulation or a whatever the fuck a Mister is. As long as the core experience isn't greatly altered, it runs ok, and the controller I'm using is close to the original I'm more than happy. Arguing about anything else is pedantic hobbyist faggotry
>>720695053Unironic shilling, the only question is why it's so heavily focused on /v/ and not /vr/. I remember a decade ago a chink console called Retron 5 made some obvious shill posts on /vr/ that got mocked to high even, even nowadays you'll see people referencing "The wife loves it!" on that board
>download emulator>download rom>play vidyasimple as
>>720698936Ur enjoying your digital toys wrong...
>>720698936>Run into graphic glitches>Have to spend an hour or two tinkertrannying around configurationsI'd rather just put rom on sd then start playing on real hardware.
>>720698927>the only question is why it's so heavily focused on /v/ and not /vr//v/ gets 4000 PPH, /vr/ gets 100
>>720698884Good for you, but they aren't immune to entropy, there are going to be people who want to play PS2 games fifty, eighty or two hundred years from now and even long before the last PS2 ceases functioning for good they're going to become practically unattainable to the average person
>>720693391Mister paying some retard to shill their dogshit products on /v/ should be the biggest red flag for people in the market for FPGAs. If I wanted an FPGA I'd just get Analogue since they're plug n play and look like actual consoles. Or just emulate the games like every non retarded person is doing. The only systems that don't have perfect high accuracy emulators are the ones that are too complex to fit on FPGA anyway and rely on HLE.
mister would be meg in this situation
Modded original console is the best.MisTeR is fantastic but only up to PS1.Decomps are great but obviously not viable for every game.Emulation is fine if no other way is available.
>>720698303i just use a modded ps2 for its games because its so piss easy
It's funny seeing retrofags obsessed with emulation quality considering they don't actually play games and just goon to organizing their collections and tweaking the systems. The average zoomie subscribed to NSO plays more retro games than these """people""".
>>720693391emu lets you use whatever input device you want. so i use the best one; 3rd party xbox controller
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>>720699571>obviously not viable for every gameWhat does this even mean?
>>720693391when I modded my dreamcast. My gf bought a DC for me as a gift but it had a bad optical drive. I felt bad and wanted her to see me enjoying it so I snuck the GDEMU optical drive emulator in there. I was sort of enthralled by the passionate dreamcast community. Pros: Being able to play on the old CRT, being able to use the various VMU functionalities, easy 4player with no PC controller bullshit that ALWAYS HAPPENS when I have 3 friends over for local and we try emulating something. Yea its just a more authentic experience. Since then I just avoid emulation and do all my gaming on modded hardware almost like a self-imposed challenge. Its been good times.modded consoles rated on difficulty>3DS moddingeasy. just exploiting and flashing software. Very useful for portability and 2 screen function of 3ds and DS. >N64EASY love my everdrive64>DCez GDEMU install is just a screwdriver procedure. I didnt bother replacing the fan.>PS2medium. was kind of involved. The freemcboot card is ez but then setting up the Hardrive out the back and all the software and making it pretty took a while and a lot of parts off ebay.>Gamecubeez. JUST installed a new OpticalDriveEmulator called FlippyDrive that is super clever and you dont even need to remove normal disc functionality. requires special nintendo screwdriver.^no soldering required for any of theseFAILED>PS3it just didnt work idk what happened>xboxIm retarded at soldering and I think I used too much heat. Need a new motherboard and to actually use lead solder because whatever safety solder I was using didnt fuckin melt.if I can do it you guys can. But I am blessed cuz I have all these consoles and controllers and peripherals laying around. PLUS CRTs to get the most out of their 480i and 480p signals. I loathe HD lag. >>720697758literally me.>>720698830this.
>>720699731It means not every game is gonna have fanbase autistic enough to make a decomp of a game.
>>720699832And yet the decomps that have come out, did.
>>7206997402tb micro sd exists so you dont really need a hdd for ps2 just a mem card pro
>>720699740I can Mcboot my slim, ye?
>>720693391Only manchild play original hardware
>>720699886Yes. You think someones gonna decomp Superman 64? Or Koudelka? Or Barbie Horse Adventures? Probably not right.
>>720699112works on my machine
Did I go too far by getting these jailbreakable consoles:>Switch>Wii U>Wii>3DS>PS2>PS3>PS4>PS5>original Xbox>Xbox 360
>>720700147>Superman 64You'd be surprised what people will do for engagement.>I JUST, DECOMPILED, SUPER MAN 64, AND I'M NOW, AM GOING TO BEAT IT?!1 *Pog thumbnail*
The only old games I play are 2D jrpgs and GBA Fire Emblem romhacks, so I have no reason to invest in all this accuracy autism or whatever.
>>720698243 Fuck off. As obnoxious and off-topic as this shilling is, gachashitters are even worse. These threads are annoying, but being reminded that creatures like you exist causes me actual physical revulsion.
>>720700218pretty sure some of those are superfluous with the later console able to handle the earlier console's gamesso yeah
>>720700621Tbh true, but its fun to tinker around with setups etc.
>>720698234Just because she wears glasses doesn't make her smart.
>>720699978>>720700049uhhhh its different. yes >>720700049-san, its just a memory card that makes gaems regionfree and like, you can run emulators and shit off of the USB port or whatever non-official software. I initially put some games on the USB and it worked, but I ended up upgrading to HDD since I had a fat PS2 anyway. I use an application called OPL but the community recently has a new better software that does PS1 games better. even so, OPL is super super good and I can adjust resolution on some games and do cheatcodes and stuff (lizardman in SoulCalibur2 was taking way too long)If you wanna stick to skinny PS2 there are guides out there for SD and USB, and with a skinny thats your only options I think but it might be ok.
>>720693391Never, old hardware is just a pain in the ass if you're actually interested in playing video games and not futzing around with the hardware itself. Mister is somewhere in the middle but I ain't bothering with a dedicated emulator box when it can't even emulate 6th gen.>>720694847>Aren't these fps interpolated?No.
>>720695053it's either actual shills or people who hate the mister and want people to think there are shills, and i really wouldn't put the latter autism past 4chan
>>72069974016 tb seems to be excessive, I'd rather not download every single piece of shovelware from the ps2 library.
>>720699269Why the fuck would I care about what will happen in 80 years? My lifetime is my whole world.
>>720699740do you think the dreamcast is actually worth buying to mod? what games do you think are worth playing? i've got a modden saturn and ps2 so far and i've thought about getting a dreamcast as well, but i really couldn't think of many games on it i actually wanted to play that didn't have a port to another system
>>720699659Bit of a projection there pal.
>>720693391depends on the emulator and if the original hardware is being played on a crt.
>>720699690>xbox
>>720693391we must be better men and say no to piracy
>>720700218You lack a DS
>>720698927I had a shitty console like that but mine only played NES and SNES. Build quality was awful but it worked fine and even had S-video output.
>>720694905It's a one time investment for the rest of your life. An investment of 100 some dollars most. That's as much as another console.
>>720693391my wifes' son loves mister!
>>720693526I agree, my wifes' son loves mister!
the only person that is going to care for a Mister's actual benefits or effects upon their emulation is a turbo autist that is looking for the nitty gritty in the first place. to any average goer with a phone, a gaming PC, chink handheld emulation machine, raspberry pi for the cheap, or even some old hacked device of one sort or another, it REALLY doesn't matter.
Decomp/Recomp > FPGA that allows better resolution/framerate > Original Hardware > Emulation
>>720701558look, the literal tranny dev dedicated years or more of their life to this endeavor without doing any market research into if anyone actually wanted it. they are not just gonna let this die out
>>720698927/vr/ cares enough that some autist will spend 4000 characters refuting the entire purpose of the console because it is bottlenecked by having three connectors between the CPU control unit and each of its register banks when having 4 would be optimal. And then that thread and post will sit around for 10 days because its a slow board.
>>720693391Emulation is not the way bros. Real gamers play on real discs and hardware like chadds
as a kid, all i dreamed about was being able to play my games on long car ridescurrently playing THUG 1 on my switch and it’s amazing
>>720701765>real gamers are le chads and drink white monster on le lawn mowerthis pandering shit is gay
caring that someone else emulates a game is peak tyler robinson energy
>>720701685Yeah one guy is going to carry the entire market.
>>720693391>>720693526If FPGAs are so good, then why do you spend 12 hours EVERY. SINGLE. DAY. making and posting in shill threads for them instead of actually playing games on them?
>>720693391
>>720700846i wouldn't use usb, sd is way fasteryes hdd is the best but unless you wanna solder one onto a slim sd is the best choice
>>720693391Emulation can be much BETTER than original hardware.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aetsSOfMRq0
>>720695053>>720697991It's actually getting more aggressive lmaothe shilling is in full force and it's proabably because FY2025 is closing and no one's buying, line go down >>720701739At least on /vr/ the autists there contribute to discussion and don't spam "you lost eric" every thread
>>720700984yea I didnt make the image but I was inspired by it so reposting. I used like a 2tb and even that was excessive for my needs>>720701172Dude I've been eyeing the Saturn off and on all year. I'll probably get one eventually. uhh I'll list my favorite DC stuff. Its up to you if youd actually play it>Jet Set Radiotop 5 games. Lot of people never click with it but I've jet ranked the whole game twice. DC original has content that got cut for the HD re-release which was recently delisted from Steam. Might as well play this version>Sonic Adventureits a corny odd classic. This is its best version. DX on GC and steam have glitches and ugly models + lighting>SA2, crazy Taxi, MvC2 but those are available elsewhere...>Darkstalkers chronicle for Matching Servicea SEXY underrated exclusive compilation of Vampire, Hunter, and Savior. only version with every character and you can movesset swap its kino>RE2it was a really good version and had a cute VMU health and ammo indicator. Code Veronica was mid I barely finished it. also has RE3 for a RE machine although Gamecube is better for that>Soul Calibur 1This game is gorgeous and PURE. I enjoyed unlocking every character and thin kthe game is soul incarnate. I didn't click with me at first, like I thought 2 and 3 were better until i realized there is value in its simplicity. Guests I've had really enjoy doing matches of this with each other its like a real sword fighting game with less anime than its sequels.Power stone is decent, its sequel is 4 players liek a smash or something. LOADS of shmups I dont play. LOADS of fighting games like too many. Standouts being the Capcom ones; TechRomancer and Project Justice and to a lesser extent Plasma Swordyea PS2 got everything else now that i'm looking at it. Best version of some shit like Podracing, Spiderman, MK4, Gauntlet Legends but nothing worth buying a console for. Communiuty is cool they did some flawless NEOGEO ports recently.
>original hardware>dealing with obnoxious loading times in 2025No thank you
Why the FUCK would I ever play on hardware again when I can emulate damn near anything on my PC in higher resolution without leaving my desk? And you want me to spend money on it? lmao
>>720693391Never?
What is the best arcade emulator bros?Is mame still a thing, i used it like 15 years ago.
>>720702656Mame is still a thing, and you still have to get different romsets per release. Personally I use FinalBurnNeo for my needs.
>>720702363i think the best version of dino crisis was on dreamcast as well
I'm happy with my RG40XXV/Steamdeck combo, I just like playing older games once in a while.
>>720693391>pay money to emulate gamesThat's a complete polar opposite of what emulation is about though?
>>720702426i like playing on a crt
>>720702139my favorite schizo regarding emulation was that one guy who got incredibly angry over god of war because it was missing a single line of pixels
The only people that would advocate for emulation over hardware are women that need save states. Input lag and audio/graphical glitches doesn't mean much to people that buy a subscription service just to emulate.
>Reddit GuyGo back
>>720693391>>720693526Is this seriously a new marketing scheme? Just Graggle Simpson your way into an existing topic of discussion and hope people notice you but not point out that you inclusion is inorganic?
>>720703458BASED AND REDPILLED
>>720703458What is your frame of reference? ZSNES? Project64?
>>720703529This shilling is so obvious it's insane, bros not even denying it either
>>720702385but my modded Consoles have super fast loadtimes, that is one of the benefits.Niggas just don't know about console mods. Relatively niche community>>720698921You've got it all backwards. but then again, I'm a hobbyist and ur a casual
>>720703663Every emulator.
>>720703717How do you shill hardware that isn't even on the market anymore? Emutrannies are fucking retarded.
>>720703756Everygame as well I'm guessing? :^)
>>720693391>When did you grow out of emulation?
>>720693391>paying to pirate
>>720703717>people enjoying things is....LE BAD
>>720693391Why is there one dude who wasted $400 on a box that can't even emulate anything newer than 4th gen consoles astroturfing here about how great said $400 box is?
>>720703519>newwhere have you been the last 15 years
>>720698765This is the actual best but takes a million times more effort to create than getting an emulated version to runOnly games that autists are obsessed with like Mario 64 get one
>>720698884
>>720699731Decomps are an absolute shit ton of work to get just one (1) game to compile, much less actually run without crashing, and even less when you demand enhancements.The only games that might get decomped are cult classics or legacy titles of long lived franchises. You can scrape a team together to decomp something like OOT, but nobody is going to bother decompiling something like Phineas and Ferb for the DS.
>>720704096micro sd's are readily available.
>>720693391>misterfag trying to create a division between emufags and originalfagsYou're not subtle.
>>720702139Okay, clearly that guy in the image is a certified schizo, no denial there. But the "debunking" is so shit. "Input lag isn't 210ms! It's merely 105ms! Take that chuds!" WTF, mate?Just "his" driver causing lag? Well, fuck me with a lamp if I wouldn't also assume that an emulator's built in custom option for operating with the native hardware's own controllers wouldn't be the superior way to play.And speaking as someone who was using PCSX2 today... that shit still has cancer. Before the massive overhaul a couple of years ago it was utter trash. Complete irredeemable horseshit suitable only for poors and BRs. Today it's acceptable. Still hardly "accurate" but at least I can comfortably say to someone they'll get through a game without any serious hassle. Input system still shits the bed from time to time but can't have everything.
>>720694648>CRT filter makes everything a blurry dark messsasuga
>>720695053literally never heard of mister before this very thread
>>720704038it becomes easier to do by the year and automated tools or AI will likely even make the process faster. Look we got starfox 64 decompiled this year, majora's mask, banjo kazooie...more coming i feel
>>720694648what is this kino
>>720698428>Why shit on emulation when its eventually going to be the only option?That's precisely why
>>720695053>>720705232I'm curious, who?
>>720702139sometimes I wish 4chan had hardware bans
uhmm...
>>720693391You need to spend money to justify playing old games, I play old games that I got for free because I like video games more than you
>>720701816Based games enjoyer
>>720693391>growing out of the greatest gaming innovation of all time Not fucking likely
>>720706963I know right?
hardware > emulator >>> stepping on shit >>> pc ports
>>720700926>>Aren't these fps interpolated?>No.BotW 60fps patch actually is, because the game's physics engine does not work at an unlocked framerate.
>>720693391Still using them.
>>720693391I don't get the joke
>>720693526>paying for emulatorsLMAO!
>>720693391>>720693526>>720695053Do not support or purchase MISTER. You are supporting delusional transexuals that hate you and want you dead.
>>720694774She literally calls out all three of them out for being terrible people not even a minute later and they're distraught cause they know it's true.
>>720693391Original and modded hardware is lots of fun. I’d probably get a mister if I was more into retro and didn’t already have consoles. That being said, emulation is excellent for convenience alone, besides a few exceptions.
>>720694829While you're not wrong, people have to step up to get this done to begin with. For example, we have XenonRecomp now, and literally the only notable project we've seen come out of it thus far is Sonic Unleashed. Where's the ports of stuff that actually needed a PC port, like The Darkness 1, Lost Odyssey, or Gears of War 2-4?Additionally, for the console we have more advanced autism behind, I'm still waiting for a Perfect Dark and Goldeneye 64 PC port with online multiplayer enabled since those games are begging for this, especially Perfect Dark with runs like even worse dogshit on original hardware + expansion pak than even Goldeneye.Thing is, in the absence of a PC port, Emulation is just fine as a substitute most of the time.
>>720693391How do you 'grow out' of adult choice?
>>720702139He wants money
I'm not paying for your HRT OP, fuck off.
