After a second playthrough I finally see it, you are seething not because the game is bad (gameplay wise it's literally the best entry in the classic mgs formula with expanded movement, more toys to play with and all the mechanics from the previous games reaching their peak) but because it's about (You), the faggot that got older since he first met snake as a kid.>Complete deconstruction of the character of Snake. He's old and dying and the once legendary hero is literally falling apart in front of your eyes. The only sentiment that it provokes in the player is pity and putting yourself into a big microwave to stop the increasing suffering with each chapter. The melancholic music couldn't fit any better.>The once epic and edgy intros of jumping from a bridge on the tanker with lighting bolts and all reduced to old snake barely standing on his own after getting down from a helicopter. The torch is passed to the next generation that gets to live on, it's the badass Raiden that you hated so much in mgs2 who gets to shoot lighting bolts and save Snake's ass. You can easily draw many parallels between other games in the serires like this, the shadow moses chapter is on a whole new level.>The game is much more serious in tone (despite the B&B post-fight and all that), the snake that used to comment on the size of Meryl's butt is no more.I could go on and on but just like mgs2 had the discourse around it change over time it's time for them to drop mgs4 in master collection vol. 2 or vol. 3 so that others could experience it too and see it (and hate it because it's speaking to the player) for it is, my old ps3 slim is legit not taking it very well.I'm sorry uncs but this is Kojima's way to tell you to fuck off to the retirement board >>>/vr/ and stop nagging on everyone around you. You got your time and fun with edgy cool snake, now it's time to put that shit aside and think about the future.
No it's just shit, unfortunately.
>>720707652>t. norwood 5 ahh postI get it unc. It hurts. Keep acting contrarian it wont' change anything.
>>720707574>>720707652Fuck off you zoomers.MGS4 was awesome. People loved it. People cried when it was over, and again when MGO2 was killed.The only problem with the game are all the cuts and simplifications, resulted by Konami and Sony rushing the release in the end.The story and ending was also changed to be way MORE HAPPY GO LUCKY than Kojima originally planned, because Jewnami did not want to off their cash-cow IP.Ironic, seeing how just 6 years later they would question if AAA games would even SELL anymore in 2014, resulting the MGSV project being tampered and ruined TWICE.
>>720707701No one under 35 says "unc". Also, lose weight.
>>720707772>zoomersStop. MGS4 got plenty of shit around release even in (or especially in) Metal Gear fan communities, it just gained speed and prominence with time. MGS4 is a fucking mess and there have been people calling it a fucking mess since 2008.
>>720707652This. How can anyone defend a 9 hour movie with only two good acts is beyond me.
>>720707574>Complete deconstruction of the character of Snake. He's old and dying and the once legendary hero is literally falling apart in front of your eyesthis is the most overdone shit ever, why would anyone want to see that
>>720707957Because it's not really about snake, it's about you.
>>720707981why would I want to play a game about me?
>>720708226To face reality.
>>720707574>not because the game is bad (gameplay wise it's literally the best entry in the classic mgs formula with expanded movementThe problem is that game was designed around no cover, so it being a crawling simulator for most of times was literally intentional
>>720707957>this is the most overdone shit ever, why would anyone want to see thatWhat other games did this before MGS4?
>make solid snake old and gay because you're not supposed to like him anymore>make big boss more important, more correct, more cool, the new face of the franchise and retcon anything he did wrong
>>720707574Nah dude its just not very fun or good.
>>720708896Snake is a cl*ne, fake and gay, but BIG BOSS is human. That makes BIG BOSS a real man, the better man.
I don't care about the story, it has some cool cutscenes with shootouts or Raiden whupping ass. As for the gameplay, it isn't as tight and balanced as 1 and 2 on normal difficulty, but much better on higher difficulties. The bosses are too easy on any difficulty, however. Great game, but 1 and 2 are the best.
>Meryl is a gorilla>Diarrhea Sasaki>Mr & Mrs Smith scene between the two>vamp is just nanomachines>it was all just nanomachines>Eva motorcycle rail shooter scene>no codec humor>Sunny side up egg bullshit>ridiculous, forced melodrama in BB units backstoryTruly a terrible game
