The EU has reviewed the votes. 97% of them have been considered valid. This is a higher percentage than almost any other EUCI. The final cope against SKG has been destroyed.
Great. You will get everything you asked for and none of what you actually wanted.
>It will never reach a million signatures>The signatures are fake>The EU will laugh it offYou are here>They passed a law but companies won't comply>They complied but they were going to stop killing games anyway
>>720713694And then chat control silently got 14/27 state votes for it while this was happeningBread and circus
>>720713770>Never addresses where he straight up just lies or ignores what the actual SKG petition was about>apologizes to charlie for clout>continues to quadruples down.
>Great. You will get everything you asked for and none of what you actually wanted.
>>720713694Those boomers better start caring about gamers, or they are getting Nepal treatment from zoomers worldwide.
>>720714165Westerners are too distracted to kill their government. It only happened in Nepal because they've got fuckall to do there.
>>720714349hat and the US isnt going give color revolution assistance to overthrow itself
>>720714642Yes the CIA was why Nepal was retarded enough to ban social media
>>720713694Fuck yeah. Between Nepal and this I'm starting to think that maybe good things can happen sometimes, when people actually get together and try.
It's funny how after SKG passed all the anti SKG shills left
>>720714890>>720714165Is Nepal the only example of a government overthrown without weapons?
>>720713857Chat Control got blocked and the vote postponed due to major opposition from the EU Council thanks to Germany and many MEPs shitting on it. Turns out democracy works sometimes.
>>7207149572018 Armenian Revolution
>>720713694>GOVERMENT-SAMAAAAAA SAVE US FROM OUR POOR DECISIONS!>WE WANT TO CONTINUE BUYING GAME AS SERVICE SLOP WITHOUT CONSENQUENCES!>SAVE US GOVERMENT SAMAAAAAA!!! I DON'T KNOW HOW NOT TO BUY GAMES! I NEED TO CONSOOMMMM!Pathetic...
>>720714957Has a government ever been overthrown WITH weapons?I feel like trying to disarm the populace has been the very first thing every authoritarian regime tries to do, but then there's the americans who don't do anything with theirs but shooting schoolchildren and one or two political commentators of no significance every once in a while
>>720715129Selling a car that will stop running without notice despite being fully functional otherwise would be considered fraud, so why is this happening to games okay?
>>720715132syria, recently
>>720714165They'll start caring in the sense your smut vn will require a facescan right before you get to fuck your favorite underage girl
>>720715132have you heard of a coup? its not always the commonfolk behind government takeovers.
What happened to pirate software? I've not seen anything new about him at all
>>720715181If the salesperson told you that "the car will stop working on 11/12/2025" and you still bought the car because you wanted to drive it so badly that you simply couldn't control yourself, you're the one making the wrong decision and asking the government to bail you out.If it weren't profitable, the salesperson wouldn't be selling cars that stop working on a specific date, because no one would be stupid enough to buy them. But apparently, the FOMO is more powerful than common sense for gamers...
>>720715259Then they get the rope. Simple as.
>>720715312>If the salesperson told you that "the car will stop working on 11/12/2025" and you still bought the car because you wanted to drive it so badly that you simply couldn't control yourself, you're the one making the wrong decision and asking the government to bail you out.But the current problem that SKG is trying to address is that they do NOT tell you that
>>720715129>NOOOO COMPANIES SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO SCAM PEOPLE ALL THEY WANT!Jew has entered the discussion.
>There will be even more rules and regulations for game developersWhy is this considered a good thing?
>>720715312well one, its 99% not specified when it will stop working and two, you don't have the right to commit a crime just because it was written in a contract or sold through a product. thats what separates us from a randian hellhole
>>720715129You've uncovered one of the reasons governments exist at all.Large groups of people are bad at making collective choices, you are on your way to becoming unretarded
>>720713694Funny how that went from the big thing to not mattering at all just a couple of weeks later in the wake of concentrated mass assault on privacy and free speech. You'd think the EU would at least wave it around to distract from the literal china-tier legislation that'll pass soon.
>>720715405It wouldn't had happened if they acted like normal human beings
>>720713694I don't play video games made after 2004.
Allow games to die.
>>720715637>that'll pass soon.Both Finland and France are fiercely against the danish brainfart law proposition so I doubt its going to go through.
>>720715312>If the salesperson told you that "the car will stop working on 11/12/2025"It's so funny how you absolutely blow yourself the fuck out in the very beginning of your "argument"That's the fucking point, the developers DON'T tell you that.
>>720715405>make your server code available if you are no longer making money from your live service gameGee, harsh regulations
>>720715405It's a good thing for the consumers, but not for you, demonic corpojew.
>>720715405>Allow your fans to make their own servers when you don't want to support your own game anymore.Oh no the horror.
>>720715753Last I checked it was a guaranteed pass or still up in the air based on where Germany falls so I'm not gonna get my hopes up.
>>720715405So that they can't put radium in their paint.
>>720713694Huh, I genuinely thought it'd be a lot higher after pewdiepie and moist critikal pushed it on their memelord audience. I expected a lot of SEA 15yos trying to be funny.
>>720713694Umm, sweetheart? 97% means it didn't meet its target... sorry, but you're fucking finished
>>720715870>Last I checked it was a guaranteed passIts not. Last time it was 50-50 which is nowhere near enough to pass any law in EU that requires pretty much unequivocal approval from all member nations. Thats also the reason why EU is so fucking slow just like UN: Any country can just veto away any new propositions.In Denmarks law case thats a good thing because its unlikely to pass. In SKG's case its a bad thing because Germany is highly likely to side with big game studios, not because it likes the game studios but because Germany hates freedom, especially online.
>>720715129>ackshually the corporation should have the right to steal something they've already given to their customer in exchange for money>no refundsEat shit, boot licking animal.
>>720715405>Nintendo fans be like
>>720715405Besides esrb and pegi what rules and regulations are there for game devs?people straight up release broken shit, malware, bitcoin miners and promise a game that will come but never does. It feels like we're in the wild west.
>>720713857>chat controlgot blocked
>>720715312Congratulations, you just played yourself lol
There isn't a single game out there that truly requires a central server. Logistically, even MMOs are ran by fans on a home budget. Economically, Valve has no trouble letting LAN coexist with a cash shop.
>>720714957Orange revolution 2004 in Ukraine
>>720715013>Turns out democracy works sometimes.Sure, but the EU is no democracy.Its member countries might be, but the EU itself is a group of people completely detached from the citizens of the nations that are members of the EU.And those people regularly abuse the EU to pass regulation, that would have no chance in hell to pass in any of its membership countries.The EU should return to be the European Economic Union. Its not a lacking "compatibility" between the nations, but the constant abuse of Brussels to enforce legislation, the people of the member countries don't want.I don't think there is a fitting word to describe this "crime" against the people of the countries in EU-Europe, but there should be one.
>>720713694Based
>>720715129Corporations and companies will actively use laws and lobby for legislation to fuck you over. It's entirely within the consumer's right to do the same back at them. You're like those dumb niggers saying the Clean Water Act was a bad idea because "muh regulation."
>>720716335>EU itself is a group of people completely detached from the citizens of the nations that are members of the EUhow detached from reality are youyou realize citizens in the union vote for their countries' representatives?
>>720716335>but the EU itself is a group of people completely detached from the citizens of the nations that are members of the EU.EU meps are selected by the current governments of each nation. If your Party rep fails to push for your nations interest in EU, then stop voting for that Party.
>>720716024>Germany and a bunch of others opposing it now>the second biggest Russian cock sucker government flipped to opposing itHuh, we might just get another 5 years before the spirit of Goebbels takes full control here.
>>720713694
>>720713694Keep Killing Games bros...
>>720715919>I was just pretending to be retarded!
>YOU VILL OWN YOUR GAMES, AND VILL BE HAPPY
>>720715405I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all!
>>720716517
>>720713694if this causes even one studio or dev team to go under, it will have been worth ittheres no reason to get excited about it otherwise
>>720716687NOOOOOOOOO NINTENDO SAVE ME AAAAAAAAAA
>buy car>Sign paper saying in small print I can sneak into your house and murder you >NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST MURDER ME EVEN THOUGH I LITERALLY SIGNED A PAPER SAYING YOU CAN
First SKG killed games as service, and I did nothingThen Team Cherry killed indie developers by selling Silksong for 20 bucks, and I did nothing
>>720716794>you will not kill people, if you kill someone you will go to prison>*kills person*>*goes to prison*>WHAAAAT NOOO HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN THIS ISNT FAIR FUCKIN GOVERNMENT
>>720714890>I'm starting to think that maybe good things can happen sometimesOf course, why do you think they spend so much money on pushing divisive issues like trannies?
>>720716415>>720716439I don't like the rhetoric that the EU regularly pushes regulations that no one wants, but he's kinda right in that the EU is incredibly undemocratic. The parliament can't propose any new law for example, only the commission can. And the commission isn't democratically elected. Neither is its president whose political career should've been over by now.
>>720716996Yes but it the EU meps who ultimately decide which laws go through and which don't. EU nations don't have much leeway which laws get formed but they do have the power to put brakes on them.>>720716481Germany is against the danish law too? Thats a positive surprise, always expected german lawmakers to be as retarded about internet as the UK ones.
>>720713736but all i wanted was legislation.good or bad, at least we will have the truth laid bare for everyone to see, ink on paper
>>720714890If the situation was hopeless, their propaganda would be unnecessary.
>>720716415There are elections, but in case of the larger parties, the "parliament" is but a waste-ground for people that would cause too much damage at the national stage, if they were left in domestic offices.Take Von der Leyen: The primary reason to get her into EU office was, that this allows her total immunity in Germany. (Something not even German executive offices offer.)In her previous offices in Germany she (probably) committed crime after crime, but investigations are stopped as long as she is president of the EU Commission....and of course she (probably) continued her cleptocratic campaign in the EU with, for example, the vaccine deals.The people have effectively no voice in who leads the EU. The last elections massively hurt the Von der Leyen-camp and gave rise to parties that work in favor of the people instead of the cleptocratic caste, but the "democratic" "Green" camp decided to join Von der Leyen in order to "save democracy" (where there is no democracy to begin with).>>720716439Europe has rich public broadcasters and they are "saving democracy" all day with lies and smear campaigns. (Look into German ZDF's Theveßen's take on Charlie Kirk.)Europeans are slowly realizing and shifting, but against those massive media empires directly controlled by the political caste, it's not only difficult to get that information out there, but politicians are trying to make the spread of opinion again the publisher-employed full-time journalists' privilege (as it was originally intended when all those far-reaching rights were established), because the people apparently aren't "democratic" enough to be worthy of that right.
>>720716996>>720717117The non-democratic parts of the EU are there to tardwrangle Europe, and the democratic parts are there to tardwrangle the EU.It's a retarded compromise, but the alternative would be even worse.
>>720717325Europe is not a unified one country, its a host of different countries. In general France and Finland both are automatically against new laws that would expose people's private information or punish them for expression their opinions. UK has gone full retard but it hasn't been part of EU for years now. Germany is a country that loves its censorship but so far France and Finland have effectively been canceling every german attempt to force surveillance on EU citizens.
>>720713694I don't get it, all this says is "maybe someone from the higher ups will look at our initiative and maybe they'll do something about it (but it's also just as likely that they won't do anything)". Why are you retards so disingenuous and braindead?
>>720716335While it's true that any extra layer of abstraction is an extra opportunity for representatives to abuse the system, let's not pretend that doesn't happen far more frequently on a national level, and opposing interest on different layers might also help keep malicious actors which let's be honest is most if not all of them in check.Vége van Viktor.>>720717117If the fightchatcontrol site is to be believed, yes.
>>720713857Who voted for it?
>>720714890absolutely, just>people actually get together and tryis easier said than done
>>720717520This
>>720714890>>720716972>>720717323>>720717691You're a pathetic and worthless moron. Kill yourself.
>>720717738>>720717520The fact that shills tried to get rid of these threads by spamming CP is proof enough that they see it as a very real threat.
>>720717776Nah.
>be beekeeper>sell honey, honey turns people who eat it into bees>people complain, say it was clearly written on the back of the jar in tiny writing smashed up with the rest of the label>people try to stop you, brag there's no law against turning people into bees>government begins considering a law against turning people into bees>NOOO YOU CANT DO THIS TO ME LAWS MUST REMAIN STATIC INSTEAD OF UPDATING TO FIT WITH THE TIMES YOU'RE KILLING THE BEEKEEPING INDUSTRY
>>720717520Thats all it is, a Citizens Initiative. Its not a guarantee of anything at all. EU meps might simply just say "no" and thats that. Its gambling on the fact that EU generally hates Silicon Valley and big tech companies and this might be another opportunity to hurt them.
This whole SKG thing taught me anyone even americans can give feedback to all laws EU commission tries to passhttps://ec.europa.eu/info/law/better-regulation/have-your-say/initiatives_enWhat did you learn?
>>720714165>invented without the n>ivetedI don't get it
>>720713694NOOOOOO YOU CAN'T MAKE THE GOVERNMENT SAVE YOUR VIDYA, THEY'LL FLOOD YOUR COUNTRY WITH NIGGERS AND MAKE YOU LIVE IN A PODINSTEAD YOU SHOULD DO NOTHING AND LET YOUR GOVERNMENT FLOOD YOUR COUNTRY WITH NIGGERS, MAKE YOU LIVE IN A POD AND LET COMPANIES KILL VIDYA
>>720718274you have ted
JES TORILLA TAVATAAN
>>720718604no it's pronounced like riveted
>>720717965But I want to bee a bee
>>720718604>>720718647Is this some kind of punk I can only get if Indian is my first language?
>>720718717>punkPun*
>>720718717saar...
>>720718634Wait no that's a sad finnish image I need to use a happy one!
>>720716794Fine print actually gets overruled in court quite frequently.
>>720713736Insane behaviour.
>>720717520>maybeThere is no maybe here. Once a CI passes the signiture stage, the comission is required by law todeliberate on the matter. Now what the outcome of the deliberation would be is anyone's guess.
Say, where's "Thor" now?
>>720718647i can see the apple but it won't talk to me
Why do "nothing ever happens" losers get so angry when other people make stuff happen?
>>720716794>small printNull and void inside the EU.
>>720715129Do you want us to buy your slop or not?
>>720714165inveted
>>720719015it invalidates their entire life>oh, i could have actually done something, but didn't
>>720716794>Frogposer>is retarded
>>720718974Fucking a ferret, most likely.
>>720719015"nothing ever hapens" faggots are people who try to justify their laziness/inability to do anyhting with epic memesIt's the same kind of people who desperately want games to flop - they'll tell you it's because they care about video games, but in truth they are failures themselves and it makes them feel better to see others fail as well.
>>720713694>>720718974STOP THE COUNT!!!
>>720719015Those people can only survive in a state of perpetual self-loathing.Misery love company.
>>720718820That is the happiest man in Finland.
>>720715129>Americans when something might interrupt a corporation unrelentingly raping his ass as he thanks them for the pleasurewhat a strange people
>>720719015dependency on the comfort delusion that everything is shit because of some uncontrollable divine destiny they can't effect
>>720713694corpobros...
>>720719736You don't understand, he might be at the top of said corporation by 2035.
>>720716228>>720715013>>720713857They specifically postponed it so that they can bring it up later in the future. You know they will keep twisting it until it passes eventually.
>>720715312i absolutely love how incomptetent corpo shills are on this, it's fucking hilarious. they use arguments that are LITERALLY what SKG is about, because they themselves don't know it, have never read it and have a fucking excel spreadsheet on ther pajeet server with talking points listed and that's it. they have no idea what they're talking about, literally.
>>720719891Tryhard contrarianism like this is just so sad, you can see his brain contorting in a billion different directions just so he can have a special snowflake opinion
>>720715129
>>720719920They don't actually believe that. They just believe richfags deserve to rule over them like medieval Kings
>>720720317But medieval kings were cool...
will the halo guy save gaming?
>>720715405here's what 20 years of unregulated vidya industry has brought you
>>720714957Czechoslovak over three their communist government by literally pretending the authorities and the government itself did t exist lmao look it up. They all stopped participating at the same time
>>720713694Watch as this amounts to nothing more than a popup to click before signing in to a live service game and the EU technocrats using this legislation to slip in more authoritarian bullshit under the guise of protecting the children from le ebil gaming companies.
Reminder that anti SKG people are almost all indians working as paid shills by companies like Ubisoft
>>720715405I hope you don't wake up next time you go to bed. You are the problem.
>>720713694And the only thing it'll affect is you now sign an agreement before playing saying your dogshit live service slop will end one day.
>>720720824An additional pop up about it would be the best case scenario. Most likely this will just add another line or two in the old TOS, obscured and forgotten.
>>720715312no, you fucking retardif a salesman did that, nobody would fucking buy the carand since fucking when did any game, ever, launched with a sunset date already defined?you goddamn nigger
>>720713694Glad we're focusing on the real issues over here, meanwhile nobody can even afford video games anymore lmao
>>720720545Don't buy it then
Libertarians actually want to live in a world where your life is forfeit if you don't read the fine print of a product you buyIt's perfectly fair to have many critiques about the EU or governments in general but trying to pretend that corporations won't enslave you the first chance they get is delusional.
>>720721327>dont buy it>retards do buy it>execs see this sells alot>other games copy it
>>720721364>pretend that corporations won't enslave>pretendCorporations already own you. The one pretending is you, for not accepting that fact.
>Just read the 300 page ToS you can't look at until you buy the game!!!!
>>720713694Wow, I'm surprised there's so many people who want to take violence out of video games
>>720715129Consoomerist attitude would be buying new games, not keeping the old games running. Try again, corposhill-kun.
>>720720918
>>720721493>oh btw we can change the ToS on a whims notice>what? refund policy? get fucked how about that
>>720721117Best case, purchase buttons replaced with rental button with end of service date. Bonus, reveal when their 3rd party licenses for their Nicki Minaj skins end.
>>720721606>California
>>720713694I hope nothing happens, that'd be funny.
>>720721456I agree. I mean more outright ownership. Corporations still need to sometimes pretend that they're not pure evil. If corporations were allowed to entirely to go "mask off" (libertarian dream),shit would be even more horrible than it is now, even if it's hard to imagine.
>>720721613When they alter the deal you pray they do not alter it further. btw includes clauses so you can't sue for change of contract.ps its a contract because we say so but you get no rights :)
>>720721606>game devs: $100 games>game sales: 100% less
>>720715405Maybe devs should start thinking about making good games now
>>720714349It only happen there cuz the genius in power had the bright idea to take down the whole internet to stop a tiny protest movement
>>720721863no can do bucko
>>720720824I am fully allowed to sell my used software licences in the EU and corporations can't do anything about it.
ITT consumer rights are worse than hitler.
>>720713694Video games are the only thing keeping men from completely overthrowing the governments of around the world, politicians are either stupid or just straight up cocky/arrogant.
>>720721808honestly i cant wait for this to be the first domino to drop in the long line of anti consumer bullshit publishers pull these days
>>720720395It's ok think that now what they are mostly gone but historically ruling class always invested in propoganda to legitimize themselves to oppressed class and morally to themselves
>>720722113That is exactly what the big bois in the industry are terrified of. The free pass they've had could very well come to a screeching halt within the next decade and you can be sure as shit they will do anything to ensure the gravy train doesn't stop.
>>720713694thor sissies... no...
>>720717325Ursula von der Layen literally comes from rich upper class nazi family. Everything has been handed down to her on a silver platter and she has been falling upwards her entire life. I can't even be mad. She is living her best corrupt nepotism baby giving her nephews and grandkids and shit comfy positions Queen lifeI would unironically support her becoming Germany's president as a retirement package because unlike EU commission president, President of Germany cannot do shit
>>720722231What free pass? Have you seen the rest of the tech industry? Have you seen the shit Adobe is pulling? It makes gacha shit sound reasonable. It's software as a service that's cancer and needs to go, video games are only a small part of that.
>>720721430If the government could stop retards from buying drugs, gambling their money away, getting scammed by Indians, then maybe I'll trust them to stop retards from buying DLC. For now I have no faith that any law meant to "protect consumers" isn't going to immediately backfire in some absurd catastrophic way.
>>720721364I'm a librarian, which is exactly why I think that games and other "intellectual property" shouldn't be protected by the legal system if they're abandoned by the owner.
>>720722712Adobe explicitly sells you a subscription service. SERVICE. They are fucking cunts but they aren't lying about what they are selling you, unlike games.Hey adobe, when do I lose access to your software?>when your subscription endsHey Ubisoft, when do I lose access to the crew?>go fuck yourself
>>720722960Can I check out this book please?
Whn this thing destroys the indie market, will skiggers take responsibility?
>>720713736You have no idea what I actually want :^)
>>720724139Ah yes, all these indie devs making always online live service games.
>>720724139Name 5 always online live service indie games without private server support
>>720724228So it's okay to fuck over indie devs as long as it's only a few of them?
>>720713736making you seethe is enough for me
>>720724295The ones that make always online live service games? Yes
>>720724295It's okay to fuck over indie devs who take away the game they sold you, yes.
>>720713736You can eat my entire asshole
>>720714165>iggerI don't get it
>>720724295>ignores the argument>asks a loaded questionyou are brownpost hands
>>720724295Every single motherfucking indie retard who tried making online only shit always ended up screwing himself over long before SKG became a thing. Easiest example I can think of is Battlebit which dies out and whose developers ran away while leaving the game without updates. Another example I can think of is Hell is Others, where the devs really wanted it to be a online only battle royale extraction shooter but had to give up and add singleplayer mode. There's a bunch of random indie games I recall that tried to be online only and failed.Point is, if you are a random literally who indie dev and make a online only game you are a fucking dumbass and it's not anyone's fault that your game failed, only your own.
>>720721117then it's not a purchase and become subject to a different set of regulations.
>>720713857What's chat control? First I've heard of it.
>>720716720>Rais bin Askut, emir of the SKG mujahideenThanks anon, I'd seen the other edit many times but not this.
>>720719624>consistently ranks as THE happiest country in the world>Finns always look super depressed, the only Finns I know just play RuneScape to autistic degrees (actual 16 hour days)What's their problem, do they just lie on those happiness surveys or something?
>>720721493>Also we put the TOS in a 400x200 pixel subwindow that you can't resize or copy from. Get fucked.
>>720724542Another mass surveillance program advertised as "protect the chilluns"
>>720724809>the only Finns I know just play RuneScape to autistic degrees (actual 16 hour days)>THE happiest country in the worldI mean, it checks out, no?Imagine having the comfort to play vidya all fucking day, I'd be happy too
>>720715312Until ALL the cars on the market were like that and you had no choice.>just walk everywhere and vote with your wallet!This is you. A retard corpo bootlicker.
>>720713736/thread
>>720724365Does an MMO count? It's already hard enough to make an MMO as it is, even as a large studio.
>>720724952This is why euros are retarded for trying to force apple shit to open up instead of focusing their attention on keeping android open
>>720713736>t. retarded fuming dev of some shitty SaaS indie game
>>720725175>euros are retards for forcing this giant corpo to do what's rightnah they're absolutely right you corpo rat
>>720725624IT IS NOT WRONG TO GIVE CUSTOMERS CHOICEsome people want their shit to be locked down, and they were so busy trying to take this option from consumers that now those of us who want a more open platform are starting to get fucked from our supposed saviors failing to protect us
>>720726128lmao fuck of corporate bootlicker, also>implying android is open sourceHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
According to some anons here me doing this is the height of entitlement.
>>720713694Piratesoftware malding.
>>720713736I read this in his voice
>>720726520>playing the version which still contains copyrighted music Rockstar no longer owns the rights forYou're basically pirating that music. Play the modern re-release.
>>720713861Are you talking about the blinking roach?
>>720714002Shut up, Jason! Learn about mana management!
>>720716794>Only thinks about killing peopleWhy are lefties like this?
>>720726831No, he paid for the use of the game and it´s components, music is one of them. I know you are being retarded just for (You)s, but man, be better.
>>720727114>I know you are being retarded just for (You)sWow, bravo figuring that out.I didn't think there were people as dimwitted as you here, and that's saying something. Do I need to add a fucking /s to extremely obvious jokes in the future?
Ferretfucker eternally in shambles.
>>720724969MMOs would be fine because they can legitimately say they're services that will end some day and already have subscriptions
>>720715129Explain to me how is it ok for a company to shut down a single player game that I paid $50 5 years later to force me to buy the remaster?
>>720715405Because the companies that should be self regulating aren’t.This is entirely their own fault.
>>720727347>Got mad because he got found out
the conclusion i've arrived at regarding many modern woes is unregulated pursuit of profit among the biggest companies alongside excessive taxation of people who don't make a lot of money.
>>720715405>game developersNo? The rules will be for the publishers, who are pushing for this shit.
>>720727767>found outAnon are you the one pretending to be retarded here, there's a difference between "pretending to be retarded", trolling, etc, and a darn joke
>>720716220Those are not even regulations (besides probably adult-only shit). They are suposed to be just guides for the potential buyer.
>>720720545Now post the train simulator one.
>>720727780working as designed
>>720713770Final cope might be>Companies realized on their own that it's better not to kill games for economic reasons
>>720728127certainly intended and deigned that way, yes.
>>720713736Eat my whole ass.
>>720728006A Reddit post from 6 years ago says it was $9k, and a post from 2020 says all the DLC was $10k.Steam doesn't show the total cost (and I'm not manually checking), I'm curious what it is in 2025.
>>720720079They'll keep trying and we'll just have to keep pushing. CC at its core is tech illiterate on a level surpassing most age verification attempts, literally anyone outside of some intelligence agent who wants to read emails will instantly turn on it when they realize it fucks even just basic IPsec
>>720714890good things will happen when the boomers finally die off because politics is completely controlled by them rn
>>720718274>>720718717It think it's supposed to be "I vented" but the person who made the caption isn't very smart.
>>720728379>779lmfao
>>720728379>>720720545>>720728006>>720728617poor lol
>>720722817None of these are being done legally. DLCs are.
All games must die.
>>720715753We don't want it either. When the minister was taking name suggestions for the britbong copycat app the inbox got flooded with suggestions in the vein of Appdolf Hitler, Wankpass, My1984, StateTyranny and the like. If she wants a snowballs chance in hell of keeping her job come the next election, she better take the hint.t. dane
>>720722581You've got to hand her, that she got her last name on her own by marrying the right guy.I guess the name fits her background, if what you say is the reality of things.>I would unironically support her becoming Germany's president as a retirement package because unlike EU commission president, President of Germany cannot do shitShe is clearly aiming for Secretary General of the UN. Her way of "failing upwards" is even more insane than what Baerbock has pulled off.
>>720724295N.M.F.P
>>720720079And we'll keep opposing it. The politicians in my country has been trying to sneak in the euro pretty much ever since it was introduced, but thanks to our constitution they can't do that without putting it to public vote and we keep telling them to fuck off.
>>720729648>The politicians in my country has been trying to sneak in the euro pretty much ever since it was introduced, but thanks to our constitution they can't do that without putting it to public vote and we keep telling them to fuck off.I fucking wish we had something like that in the UK, the only benefit of these draconian laws is that it's ensured that Labour is never going to win an election ever again.
>>720724030It's a reference copy, sorry.
>>720729778Realistically, how enforced are all those stupid UK laws that get meme'd on? Like those little locks for opening window too wide, or watching TV without a loicense?
>>720729778REFORM!**by selling everything to private companies
>Waiting for 75 days for a debate date
>>720729998>Realistically, how enforced are all those stupid UK laws that get meme'd on?It's incredibly surface level, but it means that big sites/apps technically have to comply which is a massive ball ache.
>>720726834Ye, I linked the wrong post.
>>720729778>I fucking wish we had something like that in the UKWell, we did have the European Union Bill from 2011 to when the UK left the European Union. Any treaty change or matter of soverignty involving EU membership mandated a referendum. Not that it, or a singular constitution, would prevent politicians acting like politicians.>it's ensured that Labour is never going to win an election ever again.but muh coal ship mine yards
>>720729998Pretty much every site except ones too big to go under the radar have ignored it.Hell, even Hiro told them to fuck off.
>>720713736genuinely what did he mean by this anyways
>>720713694>stop killing games petitionthere is no SKG petition. SKG is what moldman calls the entire movement and the name the website for it uses. the eu citizens' initiative is being handled under the name "stop DESTROYING games" and any trustworthy eu source would be using that name instead of stop killing games (since there is no initiative with that name)
>>720727347do yourself and us a favour nigger and act retarded on plebbit please. here you either shitpost unironically or literally drop truthnukes. captialism is the worst form of slaveship.
>>720729648>nooo, muh monopoly money!
>>720730703stop destroying videogames
>>720730615He meant that we would get legislation that makes it more difficult to profit off of live service games and thus we will get less live service games.He doesn't realize this is exactly what people want, because he is an out of touch retard that thinks people actually like the live service model ratger than tolerate it.
>>720731152ohyeah that's pretty, most people that support this either really dislike the live service saturation
>>720715129I need government-sama to save me from the consequences of other people's poor decisions.Every time one of you faggots gambles for an anime girl png, it supports those industry practices, and makes games worse for me.
>>720731335that's pretty dumb i meant
>>720720545There's one that has 4 or 5 digits worth of dlc. I could swear it was SimTruck, but I can't be assed to doublecheck.
>>720728527>>720729648>weLMAO, holy shit, it's so embarrassing to think about how eurofags unironically believe this. WE don't get a say in any of this. If your """""democracy""""" is one where this retardation has to be actively opposed every couple of years, it isn't worth shit. The very fact that these initiatives are taken seriously shows the true colors of the EU.
>>720731907Politicians are looking for easy wins that have nothing to do with immigration, free speech or net zero.This could easily be a slam dunk for them.
>>720731907The corpocuck shudders.
>>720731907>If your """""democracy""""" is one where this retardation has to be actively opposed every couple of years, it isn't worth shit.that's literally the point of democracy though...
>lmao don't like it? You have the right to not buy it lolololol>*also uses rights to vote for change*>NOOOOOOOOOOO NOT LIKE THAT, YOU AREN'T SUPPOSED TO VOTE FOR CHANGE THAT IS RACIST. TIMES NEW ROMAN WAS A MISTAKE.
>>720713861>apologizes to charlie for cloutthe fuck are you talking about
>>720731907>WE don'tYou sure as shit don't. Last I checked India wasn't part of the EU. Remember to flush.
>>720732132In non shithole countries, there's a way to rule something unconstitutional and throw it out instantly, instead of "postponing" it until another megalomaniac brings it up. Oh wait, you would need a constitution for that that guarantees some rights, and EUcucks don't have that.
>>720714349Also browns are retarded. Social media ban would be celebrated in the west.
>>720732283Charlie (the moist critical guy) called him out for being a mean cunt and being wrong, they talked and he specifically apologized to charlie for being mean and not accursed farm.
>>720732467>reporting from the heart of corruption t.muttmericum
>>720716381Yes, what's with this retarded reductionist thing where you're never allowed to use the government to get what you want? Yeah I get some of you worship the ideological concept of a free market without government interference, but government interference is inevitable and a fact. Is the moral bridge of lobbying for your own interests too evil to cross? Does God not want you to do it? What terrible outcome is envisaged by governments tell companies they can't brick the game at EoS? Fewer gachas? We're already at the point where companies just do what the fuck they want
>>720732467>americans unironically believe other countries don't have "a constitution">and also unironically still believe that they do shit to prevent politicians from trying to break it like it happens on their country all the time
>kikes are seething>they send shills to the thread to spam Nice copes and seethe. Too bad that they only have dilation left to do.
>>720732683>you dont understand!>we NEED to put chalk in the putrid milk or people wont buy it!
>>720732741>americans unironically believe other countries don't have "a constitution"To be fair not every country has one and depending on a few factors does not need one.
>>720713694>it’s gonna get heardWe did it reddit!>okay and next on the agenda some bullshit about games>i talked to my industry friends and they say this is insane>ok that’s it motion fails next oneCmon. These people have been out to end encryption for years now. Every time a popular mandate tries to strike it down they put a new hat on the same proposal and run it again. “Democracy” is forcing whatever the power brokers want down your throat.
>>720733018>nothing matters.. everything we try will fail.. the bad guys are too powerful.. life is pointless.. nihilism is the only way..Doomposts like yours are the most Reddit takes of all.
>>720732741>>americans unironically believe other countries don't have "a constitution"No, they do have constitutions, they are just not constitutions that "guarantee some rights." Have you seen what constitutions say on freedom of expression in Europe? It's literally along the lines of>every citizen has a right to the freedom of expression*>(*here's a list of exceptions which make it so every citizen does not in fact have the right to the freedom of expression)
>>720733018>i talked to my industry friends and they say this is insaneNot happening. They're scrambling for absolutely ANY bone to throw at an extremely unrestful public, and consumer rights is the only topic they can serve without pissing off Davos / WEF.
>>720715405I also hate it when there are rules against fucking me over.
>>720732741Americans do at least have constitutional free speech, European constitutions add stupid shit like "vulgar" or "dangerous" language being excluded. It's about the only thing burgerland has right. The UK is the worst for not having a constitution and then claiming they do by a quagmire of traditions and precedents that do not actually make a real constitution
>>720719160>>720719053>>720727006>>720718921Are you dumb? Because I really think that you are.
>>720733832>"Kirk deserved to die">Loses jobAnd now you'll say something about no freedom from consequence, not realizing it undermines free speech.
No LAN? No Buy.
>>720734212based hamachi pirate
>>720733954No I agree that's not freedom of speech, the US constitution only guarantees lack of reprisal from the state which is why the US government tries to use third party actors to get around that. Other countries absolutely are interested in legalizing state reprisal for "indecent" speech. That said you can't not laugh at all the "it's not freedom from consequences" retards having this shit finally blow up in their face for cheering on somebody's death like morons. I don't think people are going to take a lesson from this at all though.
>>720724809The people who make those surveys think not having a government that implodes every 4 months and having them social programs n' sheeit equals happiness. It's got nothing to do with the way people are feeling.
>>720733954Were any of those lost jobs government jobs? Because unless they all were, you should probably shut your retarded mouth until you actually understand what Free Speech is protecting against (hint: it starts with a “G” and ends with “overnment prosecution”).
>>720733954It doesn't undermine free speech. You're not thrown in prison for it, you're just made unpopular enough that nobody wants to work with you.Maybe don't say stupid shit with your name attached if you can't deal with the fallout.
>>720724926Trust me, the people playing 16 hours of OSRS a day aren't usually very happyThey're depressed neets, either ashamedly leeching off of parents still, or on autismbux.
>>7207137367 YEARS
>>720735000>You have the right to free speech * ** ***>*Well actually, only as long as you don't....>**And you also shouldn't....>***Oh, and boy, you better don't...Where free speech??
>>720735342OF BROWSING PLEBBIT
>>720735379>You have the right to free speech.>Say whatever you want...>If you say something stupid..>Nobody's obligated to work with you.Freedom of association, too. Suck it, commie.
>>720735379Inciting violence is not legal anywhere in the world. Cheering for assassinations is incitement of violence.
>freedom of speech is not legal anywhere in the world
>>720735578Technically even incitement of violence is legal since you can easily contextualize anything to be a joke, but OSHA doesn't give a shit. They love the smell of vague "unsafe workspace" notions more than anything, and HR are trained to prioritize keeping them faaaaaar away from the premises.
>>720735693There's a reason freedom of speech is not under #1 in any of those documents. If your speech goes against someone else's constitutional rights, you don't get to have your words protected.
>>720735883>words violate rightshow the fuck is that real, plug yo ears
>>720730615"You are dumb and stupid and don't understand what you are asking for unlike me, the genius hacker with 20 years of game dev experience you wrongfully scorned like big meanies >:("It's basically just him coping that even though he got utterly BTFO, he ackchyally still won.
>>720736106The whole "words are violence" thing comes from Jews kvetching about "blood libel" once they're found out.Euros fell for it.
>>720720317I disagree. Even if exaggerated, I believe the other anon is right. It's not different than the people watching streamers (since we are in a SKG thread let's use PirateSoftware) and blindly believing they can be trusted.
>>720715129>GOVERNMENT SAME PLEASE SAVE US FROM OUR POOR DECISIONS>WE WANT TO CONTINUE BUYING FOOD WITHOUT CONSEQUENCES>SAVE US GOVERNMEMT SAMA!!! I DONT KNOW HOW TO CHECK FOR POISON!!! I DONT WANT TO STARVE!!
>>720735693As always normalfags are only in favor of THEIR speech being free. As soon as it comes to any speech that gives them the ick, they want it censored.
>>720733954George Floyd deserved to die
what are the chances of japan implementing a law like this? im tired of those retards making gacha games and pulling the plug on their consumers whenever they feel like it.
>>720738731Zero. Japan bows to corpos, to the point where they accept that modding games is illegal.
>>720738731Japan's entire goverment is focused on printing more money to stop the recession, they don't give a shit about stopping things that make the money flow.
>>720738731Most likely it will just lead to the game being blocked in the UK, then the dev being suspiciously lax on enforcing VPN bans on folk in the UK.
>>720732467>No Tax or Duty shall be laid on Articles exported from any State.>The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States>The Privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.>No Senator or Representative shall, during the Time for which he was elected, be appointed to any civil Office under the Authority of the United States, which shall have been created, or the Emoluments whereof shall have been encreased during such timeliterally the only thing thrown out in a timely manner was trump "suspending" birthright citizenship
>>720732659then who was phone?
>>720732467If it weren't for the EUcucks at the end, I would've believed you're trying to throw shade at the US.
>>720719015Because their paycheck depends on how well the glowies think they demoralized you. When something happens, they don't get paid.
>>720713694>97% of them have been considered valid.So it failed?
>>720743205>needs 1 million>has 1.4 million>97% of 1.4 million is 1.358 million>this means it didn't reach millionYou never went to school did you?
>>720743205Are you genuinely retarded or just baiting?
>>720743351>>720744695skiggers coping with loss lmao
>>720714957the 2021 elections
>>720716720actually in this context i believe it's supposed to be inshallah, not mashallah
>>720728379To be fair, I'm pretty sure you are just meant to buy the one train model you are autistically obsessed with and ride it around your favourite obscure german town route.It's not like a paracuck game where half the mechanics get randomly paywalled behind unrelated DLC so you have to get all of it to not get an inferior experience.
>>720713694>either you will just have to tick another box before launching the game saying you agree that the servers will be taken offline after X amount of years>or every game will cost 140 base because lol server costsmold sisters really think they can vooooote something into realitymember sargon and ukip lol
>nooooo I don’t like this there will be 300 versions of my favorite slop games like Fortnite and Genshin think about online fomo don’t make me play a single player game
>>720713770>They passed a law but companies won't complythis is legitimately the only valid argument.However having the law on paper is WAY better than not having it. It means at the very least, companies that can't get away with blatantly breaking the law would have to do it, it's a net win as far as I'm concerned.
>>720715312I'd still buy it because if it stops working on that date that would be the easiest fucking lawsuit in the world.
>>720733832The exception is probably the Dutch constitution, since the US constitution was basically plagiarized off of it by the US's founding fathers.
>>720715129SILENCE YOU STUPID APE
>>720715129nice ragebait, do they make it for men?
>>720747187>this is legitimately the only valid argument.If this was the US sure. The EU actually enforces regulations against corporations.
>>720733832Nobody in the UK claims the nation has a constitution.
>>720714957Canada essentially asked politely to be its own country from Britain. It "overthrew" the traditional monarchy for a parliamentary monarchy, then eventually into a parliamentary democracy.
We won so hard
>>720722106Didn't read, but I love this album and Passenger so much it's unreal
>EU accepts bot votes proving they are incompetent and should never be allowed near vidya
>>720713694>EU "listens">80% of representatives aren't there to listen in the first place (they get paid anyway, so they're out to get lucrative lobbying deals or directorship positions for their dumbass son who narrowly avoided prison time despite being 100% guilty in the rape case against him because his dad knows someone who golfs with the judge every wednesday)>The 20% who are there are on their phones (writing their thank yous to game companies for recent PayPal donations and vowing to protect them against the tyranny of the consumer)>Someone asks the speaker how SKG will make EU companies (or politicians) more money>They can't answer>They'll keep killing games
>>720721606Damn... I really miss general_butch, bros :(
>>720715129Yes, that's the role of government. You can't expect consumers to fix every problem by voting with their wallets. Most people are too uninformed about the food, video games, or kitchen appliances they buy. Government steps in to make there aren't any toxins in the food and that the products work as advertised. Everyone benefits.
>>720750819EU != US
>>720713736If it means games don't get killed anymore, I'm all for it.Corporations never should have built killswitches into video games, but they decided to do so anyway. Now they're reaping what they sowed.
How do you expect indie devs to fund an end of life plan for their 1 man project?
>>720748741usually. they've definitely let companies get away with things before.
>>720715824It is actually utterly horrible for them when you consider that this way they lose a massive amount of leverage to make you move on to the sequel without needing to put much effort in making it better than the original.They'll actually have to produce good shit now, lmao.
>>720715129>>OUR POOR DECISIONS!some shitty bait you wrote(You) are the jewish cunts who sell people games, then yank them away(You) are the corporate bitches who buying is renting(You) are the shameless turds who steal people's money every time you trigger a game's killswitchSKG was created to stop (You) from ripping off consumers and players
>>720713694visa will just ban your games.
>>720715405if it weren't for regulations, we'd still have toys with leaded paintall we're asking is that you STOP KILLING GAMESno more killswitches. let people keep playing the game after the servers goes downstop killing multiplayer aspects when you take a game offlinehow is it possible that you can still play age of empires 2 and diablo 2 while splatoon is dead?
>>720730615I'm actually pro consumer but I really wish this initiative fucked consumers over, I am totally not an industry plant btw
>>720731446>YES GOY GOVERNMENT BAD>OYYYYYYY VEYYYYYYYYY WHY CAN'T WE USE LEAD PAINT IN TOYS ANYMORE. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO LET MORONS BUY TOYS WITH TOXIC PAINT. HELP I'M BEING HOLOCAUSTED BY REGULATIONS TO PROTECT PEOPLEI look forward to seeing you squirm corporate lackey
>>720713694>three monthsSo, did they just start or are they almost finished? I feel like that 97% could drop a lot over time if they just started, since the supposed mass botting of votes happened at the tail end of the campaign...
>>720756983Finished.
>>720756643I made that post with zero irony.Hyperbole, maybe. But no irony.
>>720713736>people can host their own servers on a dead game like they used to in the past and it was perfectly fine literally 1984….
>>720754270For 1 man project (even if you for some reasone made the fucking permanent online game lmao) you can very easily just mock server responses and ship offline version. Or release the server source code, it is not like 1 man project will have sophisticated server infrast
>>720750819This cope has been predicted day 1 btw
>>720731446No, I don't think in this specific case preventing microtransactions or gacha or anything like that could have prevented this specific problem.This is the digital version of planned obsolescence, simple as that.Live service mechanics may be an helpful vector from which it can be done, but they aren't the only one (otherwise any non live service game would be safe, while we know it's not the case).
>>720733018>worst case scenario is we get an answer and can decide to stand up and decapitate them all, or keep lying down and take it in the ass like you doYeah. We've been telling you that the whole time.
>>720713694glad to hear it, still pirating everything until all leftist scum is purged from this industry
>>720715129I voted not because I buy these slop games, or care for them, but that I want others to be unable to buy slop and/or for developers for when they do bring out slop that they need to put in more effort and ensure that people can continue playing their slop.
>>720734429Then it better be used because the trump regime has announced multiple times they're going to use current events to attack and investigate opposting political organizations.
