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More competitive StarCraft: Brood War coming your way.
We are now in the round of 16 of Afreeca Starleague Season 20. Today's Group C:
SnOw (P)
Sharp (T)
Jaedong (Z)
Mini (P)

Korean livestream: https://play.sooplive.co.kr/afstar1
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Japanese livestream: https://www.sooplive.com/sctimes

Liquipedia page:
https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/ASL/20
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This is my most looked-forward to group in the entire round of 16.
I like all four players.
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SNOWBROS LETS FUCKING GO
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Man this group is stacked. I'd like to see JD go through but I don't think he has much chance here.
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>>720715490
this is Snows tournament to lose
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Barely had any sleep but let's go! Raise your dongers!
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SHOULDER STATUS: COVERED
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>>720715429
Same Ive been skipping korea time lately for more sleep. But, today? Today is a LIVE day
Prepar
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>>720715736
you are not and will never be owed "shoulders"
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Dongbros, how are we feeling today?
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soon
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>>720715495
>>720715848
Just the fact that there are 2 Ps in the group makes this doable.
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>>720715848
Artosis keeps jinxing him.
>JD IS BACK!
Stupid.
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sharp bros...
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>>720715832
It's over
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riba incoming
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COME ON SNOW
LETS KILL SOME SCVS
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Repair is op
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Predictions:
Jaedong 2 - 0
Snow 2 -1
Mini 1 - 2
Sharp 0 -2
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>>720716768
Imagine slandering my Dong like that
>JD 9-0
>everyone else 0-3
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>carriers
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dishonest carriers
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>tosser goes from dishonorable shuttle reaver to dishonorable carrier play
>gets scanned
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>>720716952
CARRIER HAS ARRIVED
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so this is the legendary Snow PvT?
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>>720717020
>shuttle reaver: dishonorable
>carriers: dishonorable
>DTs dishonorable
>recall: dishonorable
>gateway man: dishonorable

ape race everyone
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kek
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just tuned in, what did i miss
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>counterattacks with 3 goons
>terran pulls back his entire army
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>12 carriers
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its over
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>>720717148
marines vs zealots
no upgrades
Lost Temple

the only honorable match
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the "oh shit" moment when you realize your gols are losing
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>sack your entire army of Goliaths just to bring one carrier to red health
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someone post LIVE ARTOSIS REACTION
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CARRIER DOWN
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There's actually not that many interceptors right now, he could fight them
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don't watch brood war often, why wouldn't valkyrie splash clear fighters faster?
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There aren't that many carriers, but the key is that protoss managed to protect his expansions.
Usually protoss only loses if the initial terran push wipes out most expansions by the time P gets out enough carriers. Snow got this.
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>>720717576
Valkyries are really hard to control and really only do good splash to stacked units, interceptors spread out really well, plus Valkyries are super low range and slow so they just sort of lose vs carriers
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>>720717591
yeah that high ground right next to terrans bottom left base is snows win condition
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>>720717591
Yeah, they are just too efficient, if Snow was starved for minerals sharp would have had a chance
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>>720717662
i see, thanks
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>>720717710
>if Snow was starved for minerals
maybe next game..
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MAEK
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>>720717576
It would be probably super unreliable. Plus you would need a critical mass of valkys so they 1shot interceptors before they repair.
They are expensive and you might just die before you get critical mass without spamming goliaths.

Plus valkys used to be bugged out by too many units on the map and don't fire, and interceptors were almost guaranteed to bug them out. They should work on SC remaster, but they still carry the stigma of being useless against carriers. I wonder if progamers bothered experimenting with valky vs carrier.
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Cuuuute
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>>720717768
>valkys used to be bugged out by too many units on the map and don't fire
myth, that only happened in huge 8 players games
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>>720717576
Protoss always brings ground army with carriers in pro games. You need the goliaths to protect tanks from zealot/dragoon. If you go mass valkys, you get rekt on ground.
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>>720717868
not sure about 1v1 tb.h, but it definitely happened in 2v2 games that I used to play all the time with my mate
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just have one fucking vessel against toss, suddenly you can destroy all the observers on the path and lay mines and possible emp the carriers

why are pros like this?
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but /v/ told me dong is king in ZvZ
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>>720717998
Busy turbo microing one scv
Please understand
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>>720717998
This isn't TvZ where it's easy for a vessel to run after casting spells
Carriers have tank range on top of being air units
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Alright boys get your
>Mini
ready for when he inevitably throws
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>>720718005
nooo you don't get it, he was REALLY good only 16 years ago, he will be back in form any moment now
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>>720718086
ive been burned too many times rooting for jaedong
gonna try being a mini fanboy today
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>WOW WHO WOULD HAVE EXPECTED A HYDRA BUST
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Didn't Jaedong play StarCraft 2 for a while? Was he any good?
>posture of an otaku
>claws of a wolverine
kek
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Holy fuck SC streams are still going? Is Tasteless still a commentator?
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That was some good zealot micro
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>>720718192
he's become a cryptid
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>>720718192
Artosis and Tasteless still do commentary on every ASL but not real time because they don't get paid for it. They usually upload their commantary a few days later.
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>>720718192
Nah him and artosis commentate vods a few days after the fact on YouTube tho
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mini seems to have read the situation despite not seeing the 3rd, he knows it's not all in
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IM GONNA BOOOOOOOOST
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>>720718240
>because they don't get paid for it
They get a ton from fans, tasteless also doing that SC2 thing
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no mini dont throw those zealots...
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>>720718240
>they don't get paid
honestly they should have learned and then started casting something else fifteen years ago, mobas are pretty popular in Korea, seems like they would have been a good fit
They would have been great at filling all the dead air in any game, they would have been great for counter-strike too
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>>720718441
artosis is like the bisu of casters
starcraft for life
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>maek
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>>720718351
>tasteless' grift project is currently the highest tier SC2 tournamnet
grim
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>>720718441
they actually ended up doing tekken 7 at a multi-game event like five years back when the local commmentators got caught in traffic. it was fine, they were silly.
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>reverse hydra bust
>don't even need cannons because you just go out and slap the hydras silly
Mini can be really good when he doesn't throw games.
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TOTAL DRONE DEATH
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AAAAAAIIIIEEEEEE DONGBROS WHERE IS YOUR SUNKEN
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>Play normal, non greedy game
>Hmm zerg can hydra bust me or go heavy muta first
Zamn, this is what toss players have to predict every game vsZ? Truly nightmarish
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>>720718239
>this man used to get unlimited korean pussy
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No expansion behind this, killing blow coming next
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>angry men with knives keep rushing in
guess this is how toss players feel whenever they get ling rushed
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>>720718526
i gotta see that
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>>720718651
this is what it feels like to ride the subway in the US
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JD needs the greatest observer snipes or he ain't gonna make it
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Mini is NOT fucking around today
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Total PROtoss domination
Terrards and zergoffs seethe
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>Jaedong
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the big Dong has been turned into the Mini Dong
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>>720718775
umm... jaedong can just beat sharp and then snow in best of 3s...
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>Mini'd
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>jejdong
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>>720718665
easier to find than i thought

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYeUUC3l418
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>Snow vs Mini
my two GOATs going against each other...
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That seemed like a weird place to take a 3rd for zerg
What was jaedong thinking?
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>>720718570
Yeah, there's been a real trend among protoss players to just play super greedy and hope they just don't lose to any timing, so predictably they lose all the time to hydras and mutas and look like idiots
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>>720718903
>god I can't wait to maek hydra, shit's gonna boooost so hard
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>>720718984
3 hatch hydra? wow did artosis come up with that too?
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>>720718903
>What was jaedong thinking?
I MAEK HYDRA
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If snow gets out of this he's going to beat up barracks again in Ro.8 isnt he?
poor barracks....
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reavers or cape men?
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>>720719289
Reavers
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Mini...
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hot damn
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>Mini
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>baserace
PvP truly is the intellectual matchup
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Snowbros....
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lmao
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damn what a fun game
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all your base are belong to us
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>a fucking shield battery
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HOLY FUCK how did snow win that
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NO MIDERALS FORE SCRABS :DDDDDD
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that last fucking scarab
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ACK
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>Mini
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>>720719801
Maybe mini should have made 2 cannons instead of 2 batteries?
Though the batteries seemed like a 200 IQ play
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>>720719801
>HOLY FUCK how did snow win that
how to win PvP: have more dragoons
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Mini? DESPERATE
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dishonest pylon!
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>immediately cheeses
ffs
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ACK!!!!
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>loses (1) ONCE
>skill immediately reverts to a B-rank protoss
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>>720719926
Carbot has a lot to answer for
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DISHONOR
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lol
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>Lmao2bat
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kek this is so retarded
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NGL mini makes the games really fun
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MAEK SHIELD BATTERY
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Looney tunes ass shit.
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This fucking match
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I feel Mini is so predictable because he does this every time, especially after a loss.
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>>720720270
Mini is literally incapable of just playing normally
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where is snows reaver???
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>two identical armies engage
>they fight until there's only one goon left standing
amazing matchup
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that shuttle bait
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>mini
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>Mini
Mini
>Mini
Mini
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Mini...
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>Mini
>i
>n
>i
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>Mini
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he really fumbled game 1 and was tilted since, no way he's moving on now
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>guy is named mini
>can't into micro
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how do i get korean starcraft gf?
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>Mini
>Jaedong
>Sharp
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>>720721039
You'll need to be S rank
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interview girl is starting to grow on me
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>Knee status
Uncovered
n
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v
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r
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d
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>>720721163
coom in loom
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>>720721096
i was briefly in master league in like 2012 just from cannon rushing. does that count?
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>>720721183
What did he mean by this
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>>720721191
There is literally literally only one thing that makes women more wet than watching a cannon rush, and that's being cannon rushed
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>sw*des
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>that friendship windmill
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GO DRONES GO
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oh it's going to be one of those games
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>>720721567
Small indie country, please understand
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that was really badly played by JD, just put 1 ling on the building SCV man
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Wow your mom let's you have TWO bunkers?
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that's a lot of lings
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But why is the ramp so small, like fucking OP Terran needs any fucking help. This is retarded
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>TOTAL SCV DEATH
>T still up in economy
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kekeke
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>>720721873
Sharp threw that
He should know JD is all in yet he chose to only leave 2 SCVs to block ramp
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Know your place Terrankek
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is jaedong back?
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terranbros...
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Meme map time
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>>720722048
Light is going to win the tournament dw
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>2 port wraith
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2 P O R T
P
O
R
T
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Leta is smiling.
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>just flies directly into scourge
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REKT
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*cums*
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TOTAL TERRAN DEATH
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oh fuck
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kek
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wigglers!
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>called sharp
>makes huge blunders

more like dull
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man I'm tired of watching mediocre terrans like sharp
BRING BACK FLASH
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Total MM death.
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any particular reason for this heavy hydra play and not progressing into ultras?
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Dong doubters... your response???
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>>720723021
Mini.
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how the fuck do you continue losing head-on engagements as a terran when you have by far the best defensive army

where the fuck were the spider mines and more tanks
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>map made up of a single narrow lane
>zerg can push and defend with a single swarm
how can terran even win here
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>>720720250
>>720720303
None of these girls look different.
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>>720723086
not losing his entire air wing to random scourge swarm would be a good start
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>>720723098
is that really a problem?
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>>720723086
>>720723143
sharp is too slow
the difference in watching Snow respond to anything his probe sees and Sharp is like night and day
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>>720723086
terran can also defend really well there with a few tanks set up despite swarm
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>>720723098
>girls
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>slept in
>missed korea time
FUCK
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>washdong vs tilti
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>>720723518
*smack*
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why are they wearing both earphones and headphones?
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>>720723451
this is korea time not thai time
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>lost a probe
>lost a zealot for 1 ling
MINI/V/ROS??
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>>720723541
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hes gonna zergling flood aint he
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>mini already with the open mouth

kek
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>>720723580
to block out someone shouting intel etc
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minisissies, they are laughing at us...
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Mini tilt status?
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TOTAL
PROBE
DEATH
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>>720723601
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jaedong traded so well while taking zero damage
He is BACK
I repeat He is BACK
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>that last attack against Overlord he cancelled
Yup, hes tilted
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DONGBROS
OUR MUTAS???
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>>720723860
>loses eight drones and his spire to six zealots
JD bros it is so over...
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>3 zealots at ramp
that was some last alamo shit
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WHAT WAS THAT??!1
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MINIBROS HE NEEDS OUR POWER
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washed up bros...
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>>720723860
YOU CURSED HIM
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>JD
>back
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>>720724038
Jaedong over optimized and lost track of opponents army despite having full map control (again)
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>>720724127
talking about that botched scourge engagement
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>>720724089
FVAAAAAAAARK
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PATREON PATREON
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>>720724078
this man is deceased
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>>720724176
mini just engaged well
he didn't panic because he knows jaedong is desperate with no spire so he took his time and positioned well
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>when in doubt zergling flood
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>jaedong threw away an overlord
LMAO
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>supply blocked himself
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WHAT A CHOKE
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embarrassed for JD...
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>build cannon
>win
it's that simple, protoss players
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>finally a drone round
Damn I thought he really is tilted and would just continue producing zerglings
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welp time for a hydra all-in dongbros
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I'm doing quite well tonight lads
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>>720724514
It's been a pretty wild night.
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>maek hydra
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>>720724514
kek
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>maek?
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>>720724640
drobes :)
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MOOTA
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CAPE MEN
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CAPED
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INVISIBLE MEN
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CAPED
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FUCKING INVISIBLE MEN
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>jejdong
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JD bros not like this...
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ROUND 2
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CAPED AGAIN
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JD BROS....
I'm thinking he's....washed...
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>he's jaedone
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TOTAL PROTOSS SUPREMACY
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>21 kills on the DT
the fuck is this B rank ass play
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>j-jaedong is b-bACK!!!
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The Mini fanclub in the crowd never stopped believing
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>>720724937
mini fucking revealed the DT when it attacked the hydras out on the map too
as soon as you know DTs are out why wouldn't any zerg just immediately place an overlord and at least a sunken at each base?
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n-next season for sure, JDbros...
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>>720725001
>21 kills
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>>720725037
that's like 3 hydras worth of minerals
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>>720725037
that's a waste of minerals and you know it
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>>720725062
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>>720725001
if you were looking at the minimap, after like 15 kills JD was just staring at the screen, didn't move the camera or the drones
he already gave up 15 seconds before he gg'd
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>>720725113
>>720725137
It's only a waste of minerals if you don't lose any drones
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>>720725113
>>720725137
It's better to lose the game than make 1 sunken in the main during mid game? well it's zerg's choice if they want to lose games the same way every season
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>>720725187
Yeah so much tilt, I haven't seen that in years
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>>720725221
the lack of hydras on the push also spells doom here
and remember he was playing from behind after supply blocking himself with the early rush
you can't play safe, you have to bumrush like a hobo on crack
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gg lads, what a fucking night
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>>720725037
When zerg players lose an overlord for no reason they tend to tilt hard
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>>720725331
I'm going to spend the next hour opening all the progamer VODs to see their reaction to JD losing an overlord MY FUCKING SIDES
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thoughts?
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he shouldve stationed one overlord and one or two hydras or make that sunken after that one dt escaped
he just emptied his base for some reason, probably didnt notice that one dt ran away
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i mean dong played well but he lost because he missed the move out in the first game and then that overlord mistake in the second game
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>>720725379
My heart says Light and Larva
My head says Light and Soma
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>>720725379
soma has to represent zerg after jaedong embarassed himself. hoping light and soma make it through
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>>720725379
Soma and Larva. Light plays like Artosis
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>>720725379
light and larva. Light loses to Snow in finals or soma faces snow in the finals. And loses.
It's Snow's time, baby
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>>720725572
Soma sometimes gets picked over even Snow in recent proleagues. he's a really dangerous zerg. Snow fans should hope soma gets cheesed out of the group tomorrow
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>>720725679
He was picked last I think but Snow is really strong right now so I don't know. I think he can beat anyone right now
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Im just glad Soulkey is out
I hate that faggot
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>>720725891
terranny...
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>>720725891
It's just not fun watching zerg win games.
5th hydra bust against protoss that's timed to be almost undefendable makes me want to go Artosis on those fags
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I love Toss games despite thinking it's the worst race because they are always the funniest to watch and talk about
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>>720725995
Like Terran doesn't do cheese all day long, we saw it today too
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>>720725995
No. Hydra busts are noble.
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Flash said that second game was very playable. jaedong just tilted and couldn't handle the pressure
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>>720728596
He lost some serious games vs Flash the same way, tilting was always a weakness he had even in his prime. Flash could tilt too but you gotta predict exactly what he's gonna do and kill his marines. He tilts against lings.
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