You could criticize Nintendo for releasing games unfinished and then adding the rest of the content in free updates. Because even though the end result was still a complete game and no extra cost, they were still contributing to a big problem with modern games where people paid for an unfinished product.But apparently that wasn't enough for them because this is really beyond the pale. Now they're actually charging $20 for DLC that they previously would have given away for free, and the content does not match the price. It is more like the amount of content we're used to seeing in free DLC. And if that wasn't insulting enough, they released it so soon after the base game that you know it was just finished content they left out of the game so they could sell it to you. There's no illusion that it was actually something they were working on after release. It's like Nintendo is speedrunning doing all the worst, most consumer unfriendly aspects of modern gaming, as if to make up for lost time.
DK Bananza is anything but unfinished. The DLC could've been free but it also feels entirely inessential to the experience so eh.
>>720716956Charging $20 for something that feels inessential is still a huge problem even if you don't personally buy it.
>>720716719Mexicans of /v/ can’t afford the base game regardless
>>720718491>Synthetic ManFuck off
RAISE THE PRICE
Nobody is ever happy about anything anymore
>>720719415I think criticism is good but people are so fucking mad about EVERYTHING now.
>>720716956Emerald rush yeah, but DK Island should have been in the base game. Odyssey gave you Peach's Castle in post game.
>>720718491Someone post his gradius gameplay lmao
>>720718184It pales compared to what Xenoblade is which should be the standard but this isn't anything like the industry standard, no pre order exclusive content, no day 1 dlc, no nickel and dime banana packs, yeah it would have been great if it was a series of Islands but it's not like this is some kind of ultimate sin, and no a whole extra world added to the game and a whole mode with all of it's features is not the same as a free update. Mario Odyssey's balloon mode was nothing compared to what Emerald Rush offers.
>>720719415>>720719909When the American Dollar is worthless, people are more selective of what they purchase.Pic would have been paid DLC if it came out today.
>>720718491This guy is a fucking retard, he's right in some minor criticisms about woke shit but the second he gets started on gameplay you're best to turn him off, he really doesn't understand shit.
>>720720353From what I read from people who've played it Emerald Rush has a lot more going onto it than Balloon World
>>720720353There's nothing to indicate that this would have be the case.
>>720716719It's really hard to argue this would provide me with $20 worth of entertainment. $20 dollars got me Silksong.
>>720720072Base Bananza already has the same number of worlds as Odyssey and they're generally a lot larger. I don't think it's fair to compare DK Island to Peach's Castle just because they're both nostalgia levels.
>>720720496To be fair it is very rare that any game will give you as much bang for your buck for $20 as Silksong does.
>>720720496>>720720561I don't plan on playing Silksong (I'm done with Metroidvanias), but I love that this game came in at $20, is outselling virtually all AAA games, and offers more content and depth than $100 products from mega-corporations like Nintendo.Unfortunately, among indies, this attitude is also rare. The vast majority of them will simply try to mirror what mega-corporations are doing, rather than adopting an antagonistic strategy that literally combats AAA games and wins, like Silksong did.
>>720720883Not every game can be developed as cheaply and with as much expected sales as Silksong.
>>720720315>no day 1 dlcYeah, because month 1 DLC is so much better.
>>720716719I think you are a retarded pedophile, desu
>>720716719>>720718184I'd like to also point out that DK island is not even a "new level" it's small, completely barren and has no content no bananas, no boss fight, nothing.considering how shitty and no-effort the mini game is they're charging $20 for literally nothing.there are 1000s of full games on steam you can buy for this price.
>>720716719Not gonna lie, the DLC announcement made me not want to buy bananza altogether, unless it gets a reprint with the DLC on the cart at some point
>>7207210012 month dlc, the issue with day 1 dlc was that the content was developed for the final game and held back as dlc, this reasonably could have been thrown together in 2 months.
>>720720919Game prices aren't related to their cost. It's almost entirely arbitrary, and the $60 price tag we've become accustomed to wasn't based on anything solid, but rather something tied to tradition and factors that weren't even in vogue anymore (such as chip manufacturing, transportation, and storage costs, which helped create a baseline for prices back then, but which don't have the same impact today, but still influenced the price out of habit).
>>720721128>>720721107Samefag
>>720721128This DLC being dogshit doesn't take away from the core game being excellent
>at least Nintendo doesn’t cut content and sell it as DLC right after the game releases>fetus game gets paid dlc 2 months after releaseTendies lose another of their talking points lmao. This gen is going to get rough for them when it comes to defending their friends at Nintendo.
>>720721220wrong tendie bootliicker.nice job being such a pathetic fanboy you take it up the ass for a literal scam DLC tho.
>>720720883>>720720919>>720721184There's always at least one game that ends up pulling this off every year or so, so it's not like it's a phenomenon exclusive to Silksong. Baldur's Gate 3, Expedition 33, always something that is massively consumer friendly, has a huge amount of content for the price relative to the industry standard, is a huge financial success, and makes people wonder "Why don't more games imitate this obviously successful strategy instead of doing the greedy one that keeps failing?" Then everyone forgets because the next AAA flopsterpiece is out and all the discussion is about what a piece of garbage it is.
It really is just a bonus world they're charging you for. Mario Wonders upgrade pack doesn't seem worth the price of admission either. Multiplayer modes instead of new levels? That game doesn't even have true online iirc
>>720716719Bananza is a complete game.
>>720721128That reprint will cost more because of the DLC and almost never go on sale
>>720721451I'm gonna be real with you, I bought Mario Wonder two years ago and this is the first I'm even hearing that it had paid DLC.
>>720721320>>720721360>>720721435Why are you such a pedophile, Eric.BTW, your other seethe thread you spent 12 his on died ;)
>>720721152>this reasonably could have been thrown together in 2 months.Lol, no. They didn't build an entire 3D island, character models, voices, writing, translation, localization, playtesting, etc., in two months. This was already done LONG before the game was released. It's just the day-one DLC strategy, but slightly delayed to avoid generating backlash. Nintendo will start doing this consistently now. All their actions over the last two years demonstrate that they are increasingly aggressively seeking monetization opportunities, and they won't stop becayse the fanbase demonstrates that they are completely open to being exploited.
>>720721451There are new levels. They aren't explicitly mentioned, but you can see them in the trailer.
>>720716719NINTENDO IS MORALLY BAD FOR CREATING GAMES AND CHARGING MONEY FOR THEM!I'm sick of how communists have taken over /v/
>>720721184But that's besides the point, even though the cost is arbitrary it was at least a safe value, not every game can sit in such a comfortable place and hope to turn a profit, some games have limited appeal, even games like what Monolith Soft do which apparently are cheap relative to their production value couldn't hope to turn a profit at $20 a pop, the JRPG market has shrunk significantly.>>720721435I know, but that's not every game.
>>720721556I'm not. The heroes of the working class have arrived to save /v/. Move aside, capitalist scum.
>>720721524Pedophile eric
>>720721524>They didn't build an entire 3D island, character models, voices, writing, translation, localization, playtesting, etc., in two months. This was already done LONG before the game was released.Neither was the base game finished two months ago. It was done LONG before the release date.
>>720721320>>720721360>TendiesGood job instantly exposing yourself
>>720721524The only new assets are level specific models, the level itself, the new game mode and the additional VA, totally doable in 2 months, even if not doable in 2 months, wouldn't have been finished in time for day 1.
>>720721524You’re going to hurt tendies by going after their best friend like that.
>>720716719the gowr roguelike mode was given for free. nintendo is just getting way too greedy, astrobot had a ton of free post launch dlc speedrun/challenge levels too. nintendo being #1 just leads to nintendo only looking out for #1.
>>720721824Go play astrobot then. You won't cause it sucks balls.
>>720721524>BacayseConsession Acceptred
>>720721524Okay where's the day 1 Mario Kart World DLC? no you said Nintendo will start doing this now so where is that DLC that was finished day 1You're a total fucking retard and buttblasted as hard as possible.
>>720721558My point is that it COULD be every game. It's only because the powers-that-be are desperate for it not to become standard, that they say "that was just an outlier" and hope people forget about it, until the next so-called "outlier" comes along. What I'm saying is the fact that it keeps happening is proof that it's not a once in a lifetime anomaly, it is a thing that can easily continue to happen if people didn't have such a vested interest in trying to stop it from happening.
>>720721847i did, it was a great game and the dlc was fun.
>>720721728>cutting content to sell as dlc is only bad when others companies that aren’t Nintendo doingLmao the cope’s great. Sorry they did something that removed one of your talking points. You’ll survive.
>>720721918Point out where it was cut from the main game?
>>720721913>say that nintendo is winning the console wars>buck broken tendies STILL call you eric lmao
>>720721951>Source? Source???>do you have a fucking source that my best friends are greedy?!?lolLmao even
>>720721993>SHUT UP JUST LET ME LIE IN PEACE
>>720721885>My point is that it COULD be every gameThen your point is wrong, I just pointed out that as a JRPG with limited growth potential something like Xenoblade at $20 would most likely become unprofitable, not every games has potentially unlimited power to scale up it's userbase, I literally buy games from a niche studio that charge $5 per game and they regularly state that they barely made money on their previous release and that resources are tight.This just isn't doable for every game, even for games where costs are cut, even if a studio decided that they would cut graphics back so that they could hit 4k/60hz on Switch 2 it's just not doable for every game.
>>720721510I didn't, it had a paid Switch 2 upgrade announced just recently with new content
>>720716719my schizo theory is that this was supposed to be the Switch 2 upgrade DLC for when Bananza was cross-gen that they decided to release anyways because lmao
>>720721993You are a total fucking retard.
>>720722358I hope miyamoto sees this unc.
>>720722464Sorry for shitting on Nintendo for being greedier than the AAA companies you tendies used to hate in order to defend them. You’ll survive.
>Yet another Nintendo seethe thread because Capcom and SE both called the PS5 a worthless piece of shit
>>720722573>i literally have no argument and just want to tell you that i hate thingYou tried, you made no points but you tried.
What do people get out of being bootlickers for Nintendo? Do you want them to acknowledge your fealty? If it didn't work for that pathetic thank you card /v/ sent 10 years ago they're not gonna do it now.
>>720722893endless high quality games and entertainment at affordable prices. what do you get for slobbering gabens dick every time you can?
>>720716719>Nintendo is the apple of the videogame industryMore at eleven.
>>720723118Where are the so called endless high quality games for Switch 2? Mario Kart Empty World? Bananza with $20 scam dlc? Cripple Basketball? (dont think even tendies bought this one). The September direct is not convincing anyone who didn't have a Switch 2 yet to buy one
>>720718184Is it really? Video games themself are inessential to life by nature.
>>720716719>>720718491>>720718547>>720721128You don't have to buy the DLC and the games still great. These are bot outrage threads.
>>720723543I'm mad because I know retards like you are buying the overpriced DLC multiple times.
>>720722407Oh... normally I'd think it's cool that games are getting content updates years later after I thought they were finished and wouldn't be getting more. But the way the Switch 2 library is like 90% rereleases of Switch 1 games I can't help but feel Switch 1 was like the beta test for the "real" Switch and early adopters got fucked as usual.
>>720723471It's about the principle, if you let them get away with this for inessential things they'll get even greedier when it comes to essential things.
>>720723620I haven't. Got other stuff to play. Might get it one day though. Cope.
>>720718184Why? You're not buying it, that's already more of a message than anything.I'll still buy it, seems like there's enough content for me personally.
>>720719415>>720719909When money is an issue for a lot of people, it's hard to simply 'enjoy' things blindly. This is a business, not a charity and nothing is above criticism when your money is involved.
>>720724073You need to be bitching at Nivida, AMD and Intel if you're mad about greed and prices in this industry.
>>720724190I can do that too, alongside getting on Nintendo for overcharging people for a weak expansion and I use that term loosely.
>>720716719>it's okay when sony does it.
>>720721524
>>720723814the time to complain and do something about greedy dlc practices was 20 years ago during 7th gen. unfortunately nothing was done and it is now industry standard.
>>720719415I'm happy with older games. I just replay the Thief games over and over and over. Better to replay the classics a lot than touch most new games to be honest.
>>720724490Just because it's not the best possible time to complain doesn't mean you're never allowed to complain again. It is important to keep complaining no matter how "late" it is.
>>720724490>complain about greedy practices then"Don't worry bro it's just a fad">complain about greedy practices now"You're too late bro why didn't you complain back then? :^)"Nigger.
>>720724715it is the norm nowadays for games to get overpriced digital deluxe editions loaded with shitty pre order dlc. at one point this wasn't the case. yes, you are quite literally too late.
>>720716719>>720718184>DLC is bad because A GAME IS LITERALLY UNFINISHED WITHOUT IT>no it's just extra optional content>IT SHOULD'VE BEEN FREEEEEEEEEEEEBro, chill. People let Bethesda get away with horse armor now they'll have to deal with the consequences for the rest of time.
>>720716719Yeah, I saw a fighting game with 10 important characters as dlc, that was just weird, I didnt feel like buying it.
>>720725279How did I "let Bethesda get away with horse armor"? I didn't buy it. What more could I have done to stop it?
>>720725482And frankly with how hard Starfield and its DLC bombed I would say that Bethesda eventually got their karma for horse armor. It takes a while but people eventually wake up.
>>720725482should have boycotted it harder back then before it became a norm.
>>720726547I think you just like the feeling of demoralizing people. We will never give up no matter how many times you tell us it's too late and it's the norm now. We will always keep fighting for what's right.
>>720720492aaack
>>720721223>>720723543game cuck
>>720727034???
>>720727117You heard it here first folks, enjoying games makes you a cuck
>>720716719They waited two months to release the DLC. That's a reasonable about of time.
>>720727117>>720727034Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?
>>720729635Is getting smacked down three times not enough for you? You wanna go for a fourth?
The dlc isnt for everyone. There is really no reason to buy this unless you really like bananza and want some motivation to smash rocks more efficiantly.
>>720729938Why are you such a pedophile, Eric?
>>720730118I thought the whole fun of Bananza was being able to wildly smash everything with no care in the world, wouldn't restricting how you smash make it worse?
>>720719415I can be happy, I have a sense of joy. There's nothing to be happy about anymore
>>720720072The return to ingot isle is Bananzas mushroom kingdomI think maybe the issue is less the expansion is too expensive and more DK island isn't expansive enough for how expensive the expansion is
>>720724645There are so many good old games out there that I could never replay a game and still have more than enough games to keep me busy for a long time. I still haven't played Beyond Oasis and that game looks awesome
I refuse to play roguelite sloppa or anything timed, so I shant be getting this. If the DK Island shit was separate and maybe $10, I'd get it because Bananza itself was fucking incredible.
>>720728832/v/newfag
>>720735597Cope
>>720736412Here comes copeknot, the man who can cope anything
>>720716956Imagine if Nintendo pulled back Peach's Castle from Mario Odyssey and sold it to you later at 20 bucks
