What are the lore implications of jannies pruning video game threads while gacha dalle porn threads thrive? This would have never happened under the rule of Pale King.
tranny jannies keep purging threads
>>>/vg/
>>720718686I ruined Fourth Chorus for myself by dying at his final phase the first time I encountered him. I beat him effortlessly in the runback, but I felt no satisfaction from it. The spectacle of the boss has been completely ruined for me because I died at the most climactic moment, and the runback just doesn't carry that same feeling of surprise, excitement, or satisfaction associated with discovering and barely getting through a boss on my first go.
>>720718686jannies were faggots? wow I didnt know this is a woke game
>>720718961>>>/g/>>>/h/
How dare people talk about a new video game on /v/. 5% have beaten it but that's way too much for pahjeet janny.
Level 2 needle should have been the default and there should have been only 1 oil (1 more in act 3). Level 2 and 3 needle just feels so much fucking better and you get the 2 oils so fucking late in the game
did a new patch just drop
>>720718972yeah rip, beating a boss first try feels so good (as long as it's not too easy)
Almost ending Act 2. > Hornet running attack can combo with 1 or 2 follow ups.> Tool use, like Caltrops is easy mode, especially with big ground enemies.> I have a house and can buy furniture.> Just fought First Sinner and it was a very very fun battle. Also the reward is basically a HK boss AoE attack.> I was arrested and now I am infected with a parasite. She being able to talk improve considerably the story progression.> In Bilewater I figured there must be a way to deal with those faggots, I mean maggots and finally found a charm for it.> The game gets much easier the more you play. Act 1 was much harder, I understand the Moorwing nerf.Exploring this game feels much more rewarding than HK. This is one of the very few Metroidvanias where the exploration makes the game more enjoyable and not piss easy like most of them
>>720719089Yes. They added Lace anal scene after beating steel soul mode 100%
how the fuck do i hit this nigger on the right, i never ascend high enough to get him
got to act 2 and my enjoyment of the game has dropped off a cliff
>>720719208Harpoon has some leeway. It can hit enemies slightly above you. You probably could've harpooned that bug. If that doesn't work, just time your jumps, dashes and floats better.
>>720719208Use the scorpion spear move.
>>720719208Try the other way or hookshot him
>>720719312How? The game became much more fun now, the whole world expanded
>IS THAT A VIDEOGAME THREAD ON THE VIDEOGAME BOARD??????>NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>720719312Why
Just escaped the Abyss. Whoever made that lava escape segment is Satan.
>>720719425Use the claw line more instead of the air dash. If you harpoon a spike it is a free pogo even if its sideways
>>7207194891) I said I did it2) I of course used the claw line because it is literally impossible without it unless you are a machine and3) It was still shit
Meat delivery and bilewater boss made me want to kill myself. That boss was absolutely filtering me with that semi homing spit attack like no other and that runback was hell. I also did the fuckign meat delivery without double jump or harpoon through Blasted steps
Pinstress is literally primal aspid on steroids and fuck her bobbing up and down too
>>720719625If you throw a pimpillo while he's succing it does a fuckload of damage of he swallowed it
What was the first sin?
SHE DID NOTHING WRONGWEAVER FUCKING SHITS
that wasnt so bad
>>720719712Rejecting GMS as their "parent" and going WGTOW
>>720719152my only gripe is that they could have taken ~10 items from vendors and put them in those locations where you only find rosaries / shards. Farming for an hour killing the same two mobs over and over again to get enough money to buy out the vendors is never good game design
>>720718686such a fucking kino boss, its a shame he was basically a tutorial fight. needs a rematch against one of the others we see in the architects room in deep docks
>>720719665She's pretty easy if you just keep away and let her come to you. Pretty boring boss overall
>>720719762>Weavers going their own wayKek
>>720719152>She being able to talk improve considerably the story progression.You are browner than shit.Try producing coherent sentences next time.
>>720719780>find secret area>get rosaries>take rosaries to shop>buy itemvs>find secret area>get itemthe former is ackshually much more immersive because wasting the players time with needless walking between areas is important to the lore
How long is Act 3? Just got one of the normal endings.
>>720719870Its 33% of the total Sametime, uniro ically
>>720719859>find secret area>get six (6) rosaries>take rosaries to shop>seven hundred and fourty four (744) rosaries short
Would have been really cool if the crests changed hornets mask a bit and her stance and how she moves
Final Review:>fun exploration>lot of unlockables>combat is very polished and fastBUT>ton of reused content>barely any story>anticlimactic endings>tons of boring paddingall in all, a solid 7 out of 10
>>720719712The weavers not appreciating they were just random spider bugs elevated by some god to be their subservient toolsTHE REJECTION OF GOD WAS THE FIRST SIN
After you beat the final boss (not up to it yet) can you continue playing or is it a dark souls 1 style fuck you return to 0 immediately?
>>720719870It should be around ~10h for the absolute minimum, and around 20h+ for 100% depending on how much you got in act2
>>720719712The binding of the silk
I finally cured the parasite and got the crest, it has so much damage potential but i am too retarded to use it.
>>720720060silksong is the same as HK where you're put just before you started the boss fight
>>720720060You should play hollow knight before playing the sequel You can
>>720720060You just load the save and it puts you on the bench right before the boss so you can easily do every ending on one save with no manipulation
>>720720060You can continue
karmelita is raping me
>>720720060You can continue playing, and you should beat the final boss at least 1 time before you progress too much
>>720718686I just got on Chapter 2, is it and chap3 as long as the first? I fear that I might be getting next to the end of the game
>>720720157>>720720173>>720720168>>720720202Thanks>>720720160I did, it was just like 6 years ago so I don't remember shit
>>720720081>It should be around ~10h for the absolute minimumIs Silksong the biggest metroidvania ever made?
>>720720179No need to brag
>>720720179Lucky.
>read every day for a week about Bilewater being the worst most annoying zone>New zone: BilewaterHow can I prepare bros?
>>720720243HK was the biggest Metroidvania and Silksong is like 50% nigger than that so yeah it's not even close.
>>720720203i'm replaying, everything is way shorter if you know where to go, if you're exploring everything then act 2 is the longest
>>720720318why are you asking for advice on a blind playthrough you stupid faggot? get out
>>720719994Here is my review:>Haha why don't we make every enemy jump backwards when you go to attack them>Haha why don't we make every flying enemy move around erratically so cool>Haha why don't we make every swordsman boss so fast it is impossible to read their telegraphs, also every swordsman boss jumps in the air exactly when you do I give it Dark Souls 2 out of 10. Lots of content and large map but platforming randomly shifts between frustratingly hard and literally nothing and combat despite being pretty polished does not make up for every boss being explicitly programmed to be as annoying and hard to read as possible.
is there a term for the thing every fucking enemy in this game does where when they attack you they grab and immobilise you for a bit?
>>720720318Don't bother unless you have double jump already
>>720720179Simply the worst boss. She has no patern, no tells. You have no way to avoid her. You either hit her, or she blocks, or she spins, and they you jump away and she either does nothing or she jumps on you. Just gotta hope that you get more hits than spins.
>>720720391Bullshit? The worse excuse I have ever seen for a tiny guy to do double damage
>>720719994>>720720383>every boss being explicitly programmed to be as annoying and hard to read as possiblespot on, both about shitty telegraphing and bosses in general. bosses were my favourite part of hk (which overall i thought was about a 7/10 game) and silksongs have been a huge letdown
>>720719906only if u go for max of the maxif u just want actual % and the ending its like 10
>>720720048Someone should make a pic related of a pharlid
I hated Lost Lace but now I beat her so now I like her :)
>>720719732Is she a higher being?
>>720720506Hey same
>>720720508Yes
>>720720457People can disagree if they want but there is a reason every boss list released for this game so far is putting Cogwork Dancers at the top despite it being one of the easiest bosses in the game.
>>720720243It's definitely up there together with La Mulana 1/2original HK was already on the bigger side
>>720719735Perfect example of how contact damage is the only reason other bosses are hard
>>720720557completely agreed. its easy, but its telegraphs are clear (and its thematically cool). so many of the boss fights are yet more fucking swordspeople with shitty telegraphs (which were the worst of hk's boss roster), add spam bullshit, or giant fucking hitbox rng (or some combination of the three)
>>720720557Cogwork Dancers are good despite being easy, not because of it.
>betrayed Mom who took them out of their holes where they just scurried around and ate dirt and gave them power just cause "we're not REALLY divine you LIED">due to their pride and narcissism as fuck cause they want their kind to be considered gods they put a fucking baby to work to try and prove themselves by proxy, and when she couldn't they just fucked off>overall just screeching goblin-like retards who teleport around and spam everything they have like spergs in a fightI dunno if I'm missing that completely excuses everything they did but from what I saw weavers are absolute ass and deserved to be wiped out
>>720720607i know shes not the true final boss but its very weird that the final boss of both games is a giant white bug whos one of the only bosses in the game not to deal contact damage and who asttacks you with horizontal and vertical needlesshe doesnt play the exact same as radiance but its pretty similiar and youd think theyd want to go in a totally different directiondont get me fucking started on lace
>buy another game to play after silksong>see thisIt just struck me why i really love team cherry games
>>720720636The difficulty of the boss is irrelevant to what I said. The use of music in the fight is what makes it thematically interesting and also not that challenging.
>>720720179>>720720405I liked the harder bosses that had a strategy to it (lace2-> stay on the ground, first sinner-> dash attacks).For karmelita the winning move was to stay still and wait for her to do something, which is boring. The neutral block is ass.
>you can actually skip Lace 2 fight if you use sneedolin with extended charm during her fighthuh
>>720720730No it isnt you moron. Do you not even understand your own argument?
>>720719994review that feels like you didn't play the gamebarely any story, what the fuck?
>>720720865need a vid
Hey just curious.I know you can get to Act 2 via Phantom and Judge.But can you get to Act 2 by getting kidnapped and escaping the Slab as well? Or do you not have access to the Citadel that way?
>>720718686Which Silkshot did you pick and did you like it?
>>720720490It is so much worse in the ocean it's not even funny
>>720720557>>720720626>>720720636>>720720730the other side to this is that some of the harder bosses arent hard because of the pure mechanics skill required, but because of bullshit.something like savage beastfly isnt rocket science, but you can get fucked by rng adds/janky hitboxes/whatever which makes him much harder than he ought to be. this (or samey, unreadable telegraphs which plague swordspeople) is true of a lot of the games bosses to varying extentsNKG was HK's best boss imo. once you fought him a couple times and learned the telegraphs, the only barrier was your own skill. he was a hard boss, but there was no rng bullshit, just your own ability to execute the mechanics long enough to win
>>720720720what's the problem? controller is the way to go for any metroidvania
>>720719994>>720720383also every sword wielding mob spams slashes so when you try to attack them you just counter instead and their flying buddies get you
>>720720908iirc i think the path to the choral chambers is blocked off from the slab
TC can't just let a moment play can they? The music suggests the escape from the abyss is suppossed to be an epic sequence, but they can't take their lips off of Miyazaki's asshole long enough to let something cool just be cool, it HAS to be hard, and instead the feeling is completely gone by they time you've finished the sequence.
>>720720985ill fuckin kill you
>>720721025The abyss escape is not that hardI did it my 2nd try and it was still a cool as fuck sequence
>>720719074Kind of agree hollow knight damage scaling is better.
>>720720557>>720720626I wish the telegraphs were more subtle and thematic than "HERE'S THE LINE THEY FOLLOW". Also phase 3 was much more interesting than 1 and 2 but still too easy. Phase 4 was pure cinema.
>>720720909Architectit was the closestnope
>>720720909I didn't realize you could choose and I just rushed to the Architect. It was pretty ass, wish I could've swapped for the beam.
>>720720985lollmao, even
> Pharloom basically means> a government by the weavers>of the weaves>for the weavers>...>but the weavers are retarded
>>720721068you are homosexual. you are subhuman. do not talk to me
>>720719732She failed to acknowledge the feelings of her children over her own, that's why they all left her. She's a control freak and it eventually drove her mad.
>>720721159curbstomping controllerfags
>>720721104its not perfect but ill take it over>lace is drawing her sword back, which way will she slash!!>it doesnt fucking matter because her backslashes have a frontswing and her frontslashes ahve a backswing so theyre functionally the fucking same!>and when you go to hit her shell just fucking block anyway!!!
>>720720909The beam. It is a fucking railgun.
I GOT FORCE IMPREGNATED BY THE CREEPY THING IN MY INVENTORY AND NOW I CAN'T CHANGE THE CREST IT FORCED ON ME AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>720718686>Finally got true ending>Expected a long cutscene>Absolutely nothing apart from MY BOI RETURNEDOkay where are you autists getting all the lore about the weavers betraying GMS and such from, I read everything I could and I have no fucking idea what was going except that GMS made lace and the Phantom to be its daughter, the weavers were made by GMS and presumably fucked off to Hallownest at some point, and GMS was abducting half-weaver children for ??? purposes. Plus the whiteward was experimenting with injecting silk into bugs to ??? their ??? and ???. What have I missed here, the Red memory was all about Hornets childhood which is interesting but has fuck-all to do with what happened in Pharloom.>>720720674Are there any factions in this universe that aren't total dicks though, more and more it seems like Hallownest remaining stable for some years was the exception>Pale King genocided his own children and hypnotized everyone>Radiance infects people from dreams>GMS did heinous experiments on bugs>Even fucking lifeblood infects and takes over your brain now>Mantises attack on sight even though they aren't infected, just fightfags>Bilehaven is bilehaven>Iron Kingdom are probably dickheads from what little we knowI guarantee if we knew more about the coral dudes and the ants we'd find out they raped puppies in their spare time.
Lost Lace is my favorite fight desu
>>720721219you make the green prince look like a non degenerate individual
All I could do was laugh when I beat the big mace wielding guy in the gaunt in the High Halls and more waves just kept coming. I did not finish it before dying
>>720721415Kill the final boss for a fun prize
Was I supposed to know to go to Songclave before the act 2 boss for the quest to start act 3 and I just wasn't paying enough attention?
>>720721445I did that first try with no problem and I don't know if it was just luck
>>720721419First Sinner and Mask Maker dialogue basically spells out the betrayal.
>>720720894there isn't. the grandmother is a nothingburger of a villain and lace is just as interesting
Whoever designed sands of karak should be thrown into a volcano
>>720721575I don't believe you
>>720721559I think you have to beat the game once before Silk and Soul becomes available.
>>720721618You haven't seen nothing yet
>>720721661Bro dont lie to him lmao
>>720721419Radiance was only defending herself from the pale king's attackI'm sad there are no moths in silksong, they make silk too, missed opportunity
>>720721628i also did it on my first try, the sekiro parry does wonders against the big dude and a later wave i won't spoil for you
is the snare setter in weavenest atla
>>720719074I think it's ridiculous that it takes more hits to kill basic enemies in this game than it takes them to kill you. It's like if you had to bounce on a goomba 3 times to kill them in original super mario bros
>>720721661I did that. But was I just supposed to stumble upon Silk & Soul?
>>720720318Take up meditation.
fuck coral tower, not doing that
>>720721732>Sekiro parryWhat? Is that the thing where if you attack at the same time it nullifies it
>>720721445The music in that gauntlet is great
anyone else think it's completely reasonable to have a thread on /v/ for people currently playing through a singleplayer game that just came out a few weeks ago and that most people haven't had time to finish yet?
>>720721732Same as me. Parry is great against the big bitch
Eat your food Lace
Im glad team cherry is continuing the teadition of the swamp level being absolute cancer and the worst zone in the game. Seriously i cant name a single game that has a swamp area i tolerated, let alone enjoyed. Theyre all ass.
>>720721774Yeah that's why I'm having so much fun despite being stuck
First Sinner was a satisfying boss.
>>720721761You're supposed to be a good person to get it I still don't know the exact requirements
>>720721259Ok you sold it to me.
>>720721787Too reasonable
>>720720557I wish they were a little harder. I don't mind bosses being easy. But I feel like a fight that cool isn't living up to its full potential by being that easy. They're the only other boss I first tried besides moss mother, to put things in perspective.
GIVE ME FIRST SINNER, WIDOW, AND PHANTOM SUPERBOSS REMATCHESWHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY
What the FUCK was his problem?
>>720721769No, it's cross stitch, a skill dropped from Phantom
>>720721838I'm not asking how to get it, captain illiterate. I already did it. I'm asking did the game leave hints that there would be a quest there that I just missed.
>>720719208okay i finally made it to here - it makes more sense to go down and rest at the first bench right after opening this shortcut right? i don't want to see that lake ever again
>>720721419I couldn't tell you exactly where cause I didn't take note but there are texts from weavers whining about being lied to cause they're not her actual literal children. And the reason they have a problem with that, from what I see overall about them especially that part of trying to prove that Hornet is more Weaver than Wyrm, is that they're EXTREMELY prideful. They believed that they were actually god-like beings directly born from one.When they found out they're not they rejected GMS and that's exactly why they fucked off, except the First Sinner who was jailed, thus betraying her. That First Sinner probably did something even more specific which got him jailed. So they went to Hallownest and had another try with another god-like being the King Wyrm and they desperately wanted her to be more Weaver than Wyrm to prove that it's their kind that dominates.
>>720718686Someone tell me how to survive the add-ons for Savage Beastly before I uninstall the game and go outside
>>720718961>gacha trannies false flagging to get Silksong threads taken down>And mods are falling for it
>>720721445I'm gonna beat this piece of shit with the witch crest if its the last thing i will do.
>>720721995There is bench up there very close to you
>>720721787my janny sense is telling me he's triggered because there's other silksong threads up, so just go spam up the one talking about runbacks with something unrelatedthe solution is to start a new thread about every random silksong thought that crosses your mind
>>720721768It's easy af. The arenas regularly give you shit enemies like jellyfish for free healing, and after the 4th or so you get a shortcut, and after that one more arena and the boss which is incredibly easy
>>720721797O HO HO HOshe should suck it straight from Hornet's crotch
>>720722007Either get him to smash them or try to use tools and silkspear but then you cant heal so its tough anyways
>>720721774Would be a fucking shame to have a fight called conductors not have good music
>>720722140>smash themHahaha, yeah. I'll just lure these flying enemies into spots where they'll get hit and totally won't get killed by their projectiles while I do so ahahaTools seem the only hope really
>>720721768You made it this far, go do it fag
Will we ever get a HK 3? bros?Where does the Lore go from here?
All she needed was a human mate
If there's a grand mother silk...Shouldn't there be a grand father song?
>>720721962Oh. Well i don't have that yet.
>>720720908I know that at least ugly bastard in greymoor isn't there until act 2. Are there any others?
>>720722201Considering their next game isn't about HK but some foxes. I wouldn't worry about it for like 15 years
>>720722236DONG DONG MOTHERFUCKER
>>720718935why this bitch speaking japanese instead of bug
>>720721797It's amazing there's only one picture of this
>>720722201Of course. There was a big to be continued.
>>720721025The main story path with bosses or platforming are relatively easier than the optional sections, the escape sequence isn't supposed to be hard
>>720721628I did it first try with the help of my good friend Shakra.
>>720719732>uses a hood instead of a maskheresy
>>720722201The steel kingdomPermadeath from the start
>>720722201Hollow Knight: Hollow Knightjust give him a special crouch stance to make him fit the levels
>>720722476But anon he ded
>>720722081thanks yeah i found it took me a few deaths though kek
>>720721818I like blighttown. Bilewater is cancer.
>>720719735>cute root witch>little crying shit gets forcibly inserted in a cute spider girl>eats cute goddessthat fucking plant is going to come out at least sephiroth tier in appearance jesus fuck there's a good reason they didn't show it coming out of the cocoon.
Where do I go? If I hadn't seen people in these threads talking about how hard coral tower is I would've assumed there was nothing else here
Couple of things 1. Is it just me or is there way more command grabs in the game than HK12. Is it easier to parry in general or is that just a wanderers crest thing? It seems the i frames are much more relaxed compared to HK1
I just wanna fight God-Lace in a PantheonOh and Absolute Silkmom
>>720721693How much worse does it get than waiting for coral to grow over a two minute almost frame perfect jump sequence with guys that shoot projectiles and a boss at the end that also shoots homing projectiles
>>720721995I can’t tell if I’m good at video games or bad at video games because I didn’t die ONCE in Mount Fay, and found it a fun and moderately interesting experience, but I died 3 fucking times to Cogwork Dancers.Mount Fay isn’t even the hard platforming section. Karak is the hard platforming section, and nobody is bitching about it. But every thread people doompost about Mount Fay like it’s the hardest climb in the game. What is happening here? Does it get harder later on and I accidentally easy moded it by doing it early?
>>720722691The way there is the coral tower, we're all jobbers
I still can't get over how retarded the double jump overriding the float is.The game already has input tracking that knows when you press or hold down a button. Adding an actual fix to this would be no more than 20 lines of code. How has this game been 7 years in development and no one thought about it?Just give an option to toggle it in the menu. How can a development team be this incompetent?
>>720722691Go to act 3 and advance the main quest until you're told to go there
>>720722439Huh where's my Shakra? He's here in the halls, we spoke
>>720722691You're not at that point yet
Whorenet
>>720722726Anon, I dealt with the same thing you’re dealing with, and at the top, you can drop the ceiling down by breaking it so you don’t have to do the timer pogo sequence every time you re-run the boss. Just take the bench at the bottom of the elevator and wall kick up the central room insteadI learned this AFTER BEATING THE BOSS and it made me want to be buried alive with anger.
>>720722746Is there a way to float without spending the double jump now? I was using that on regular basis and now I feel that a movement option was removed from me because of reasons
>>720722728Technically mt fay cant be too difficult since they have to make it so you always have exactly the same amount of time between Hotspots since freezing takes the same time
>>720722691Come back later
>>720721709Radiance was too animalistic, PK wasn't intentionally attacking, and if she'd ever spoke to him they'd probably have worked out an accord like the other greater beings. But her whole gig was being a big shiny light that attracted the mindless bugs, so when PK sat down and started dishing out sapience even her high priests went nah this shits better.
Is using the simple key in Deep Docks optional? I came back with the hook shot and opened that other door which led me to the opposite side of the door. Same thing with the Wanderer’s Crest I got there very early without using the simple key.
>>720722749>>720722774Okay thanks, that was the last thing I think there was for me to do before going to fight Lace 2 and heading to the end/act 3
>>720722831Just gotta do the tiniest of taps so you don't get airtime now, no clue why they got rid of the override
>>720722002The weavers really did go from being this mysterious and powerful force in the original game to whiny bitches who have just been taking nonstop L's their entire existence.
i saw someone saying its possible to rollback your save in this game, is that true? i just realised i advanced to act 3 without making an act 2 backup. i want to keep a save with a non-fucked worldstate
>>720722519But anon he alive.
>>720722831There was one apparently where holding down and the jump button at the same time made you float instead of double jump but this got patched.
>>720722476He's going to get smacked and get shrinked like mario in the tutorial and you'll like it
>>720722820I mean wouldnt you either have to run back through the bottom doing basically the same thing or go from the pinstress hut outside?
Wait, this nigga comes back? What does it doMushroom man quest says something about heart of frost soaring high, pretty sure that's about him, but nothing happens and I can't silksoar anywhere
>>720722876Seems like you answered your own question, but there's a simple key for each simple lock in the game
>>720722476>hold O to cry suffering
where do I buy the third simple key?
>>720722476Or just make the levels biggerCould still have some smaller bugs to show off the scale
>>720722693Hornet does get grabbed a lot by weird creatures, one might think this is a dlsite game
>>720722961What do you mean, "come back"? You're the one showing up at his house
>>720722961Muhsroom man's quest needs to be done in order, but yeah, that line refers to that spot
YOU ARE ALL A BUNCH OF NIGGERSFUCK OFF
>>720722987Kill some guy in sinner's road
>>720722987>thirdThere are four. Which two do you have?
>>720721419Fleas are pretty cool
>>720722968Yeah I guess that was my real question, I didn’t want to waste a key if it meant I was permanently locked out of something.
>>720722876Deep Docks is probably the best key usage.
>>720722997>one might think this is a dlsite gamePlay Night of Revenge. You will realize that at least one of the devs played it too. I can't explain why but I notice the subtle patterns. Like when an nsfw artist draws sfw and you can spot his fetishes by what parts are more detailed than others.
>>720722892but that would spend my double jump...Of all places where I found the delaying the double jump with the float was during the flea festival dodge and pogo gamesSeriously, why did they get rid of it. I do not understand
hk 3 will be playable sherma
>>720722201Sherma's game. Like OoT to MM, it won't mention music in the title and will have strong theming relating to something other than music. But the music playing mechanic will be used more frequently in actual gameplay.
>>720718686
>>720723130>Perverts>Scammers>CarniesFuck fleas
>>720723204Where is that in the game again?
>>720723139To get the flintslate early right? I ended up using the keys in early game on the two prisoners I found. Now I’m in Act 2 with 2 more keys and I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t gonna waste them if they were more locks than keys in the game. I found a simple lock in Citadel somewhere but of course my dumbass didn’t mark it on the map.
>>720723017He was gone up until act 3>>720723053Thanks man, that's what I thought but you just confirmed it
>These are the people that left negative reviewsWatching LPs after my 100% has really shown me just how bad casuals are at games they pretend to like
>>720721618Go get the double jump. It trivializes the area.
>>720721419I don’t know why people attribute malicious intent to the Radiance. It’s so obviously just a play on the concept of moths being attracted to flames. The Radiance doesn’t DO anything. It’s just Radiant. It doesn’t intend to harm the other bugs any more than a candle intends to kill a moth. They are drawn to its light uncontrollably.The Pale King did what had to be done to contain that light with darkness so his people could be free from the power of its thrall. He gave beyond measure to achieve that containment. Neither faction in that struggle is really evil, just dealing with unfortunate reality.
>>720723370Listen to this anon, if only I had realized this before doing the whole thing without it….
>>720723153>Like when an nsfw artist draws sfw and you can spot his fetishes by what parts are more detailed than others.Is it ever possible to undo this bros?
>>720723325the default pogo feels wonky coming off of hollow knight to be fair which is part of why everyone likes Reaper and Wanderer when they get it.
>>720722693It's easier in general. Wanderer just make it even easier with the higher rate of attack. But even without it I've mashed through multihit attacks without getting hit multiple times, which I don't remember ever doing in HK.
>>720723370>>720723416Don't get the double jump. It rapes your moveset and you can't unrape it.
>just found First SinnerHoly mother of Kino
>>720723458dude just short hop your double jump if you're that reliant on hovering
>>720721419Answering because the fastest way to summon a lorefag is to be ever so slightly wrong>the whiteward was experimenting with injecting silk into bugs to ??? their ??? and ???They were trying to make themselves immortal by injecting silk into their own bodies and the experiments were presumably to refine the process
>>720723272Yeah, between others, the area unlocked by this door is huge af.There's only one prisoner to unlock btw, the first one is Grindle and you just need to hit the door.Keyholes in the game : - Mosshome chapel, unlocking Wormways- Deep Docks, unlocking more of the area- High Halls, unlocking rosary storage room (Rosary Canon)- Sinner's Road, unlocking Green Prince's cell
Hornet got slabbered in The Slab
>>720723325This is the pracice area though. New moveset pogo feels different. I liked it right of bat but I can see why it is difficult.
>>720722876How did you get there inside without the simple key? I'm fairly sure the only other two entrances are opened from the inside: The sauna door and the breakable wall that leads to Far Fields
>>720718686lost lace is filtering me so hard
>>720723487my roomie beat it in one try and I've been filtered on it for days
The amount of times the dice clutched me at 1 hp makes it S tier in my books. Does it also boost critical chance with wanderer? I critted 3 times on zango.
>>720723187>why did they get rid of itPeople were probably holding down to set up pogos and losing their DJ because of it and getting assfractured.Honestly, down + jump is a terrible choice for the input to override DJ in a game where you so often have to press down while in mid-air. They could have just as easily picked a combination like “map + jump”, you never need to pull out the map in mid-air so you’d never do it by accident.
>>720723325they made the hit boxes on these bigger because there are cases where your blade can literally be touching the end of them but it whiffs.obviously the devs concluded the reviews were right. are you gonna cry about it?
>>720723120>>720723073I got the one from the bone bottom and songclave guess i'll look at sinners
>>720723554What part?
>>720723153Jesus fucking christ you are onto something. The way Hornet gets grabbed by a bunch of enemies is very similar in feel to how the grabby enemies in Night of Revenge work.
>>720723568I believe it does, yes, but I haven't done the experiments needed to know for sure
Reaper chads, how long does it take you to 100%?
>>720723528I imagine its like having the silk puppet your dead body but under your own control, imagine skinwalking in your own body
Oh shit I ran out of shards. This has never happened before. Is there a good farming spot near here?
>>720723487Best boss fight. Looks insane, but it's really not that bad
>>720723265In the citadel. On the western side above the choral chambers ventrica spot.
im in act 3 now, how do i get the thing to make my pokedex show what im missing and how do i get the thing to show my completion percentage?
>>720723564I tried to heal after beating her phase one, her phase 2 animation cancelled my heal and no silk refunded, it's personal now.
>>720723648Just farm rosaries, then buy shards
>>720723153>>720723617It really does feel like it.Like one simple change.If you turn Hornet into a cute anime girl, you instantly see how fucking degenerate the game is.
>>720723648Just slap on the charm and kill everything to the left of Grand Bellway. You should be able to use the tube next to the bench there. HOWEVERSTOP EVERYTHING YOU ARE DOING AND GO BUY ALL OF SHAKRA'S MAPS AND DO HER WISH GO DO IT NOW NOW NOW OTHERWISE YOUR SAVE IS BRICKED DO NOT DO THAT GAUNTLET BEFORE FINISHING HER QUEST
>>720723708Ok, is there a place to farm rosaries and then buy shards nearby?
Will I know if I've met the requirements for act 3? I'm about to take on Lace 2, I've run out of things to do in the rest of the game except some minor things like the courier parcels. I've done every quest board, explored every area on the map, restored every town, etc. But nothing has happened indicating I've unlocked the true ending like in HK
>>720723652>best boss fightNo. It’s close but the bitch teleports way too much, it feels far less intentional landing a hit. Best boss fight is Lace 2. I never once ate shit against Lace 2 and thought “ok what the fuck”. That fight was pure fairness.
Just beat the first sinner. Easily the best bossfight so far
>>720723396Radiance is supposed to be sentient, it's a higher being after all, and was jelly that the king stole her moth simps, so she came back and mindbroke them allI dunno, I like the idea that she isn't really sentient, but AFAIK she didn't infest everyone before the king, she was just chilling with the moths, giving them a hivemind
>>720723738Oh damn. Thanks for the warning anon.Rip all the rosaries i was going to buy shards with though.
>>720723741Talk to the caretaker, move the fleas to their final location, did you kill the bilewater boss?
>>720723617This. Thanks for proving I am not crazy. Exactly what I was thinking. Some anons who didn't play that game and finished Silksond need to play at and then come back to Silksong. The coomerism is evident in the animations.
If you check out virtually any stream, they'll be using the Reaper crest. Why do people do this to themselves?
>>720721943He doesn't have a problem, just doing what herald of the end times must do
>>720723798Just buy necklaces. You lose 20 beads per necklace but the loss is proportionally smaller at larger quantities
>>720723574no i laughed pretty goodglad i still have my day1 pirated copy
Post underrated tools you never see anyone else useThis is free damage and you will get some great use out of it in any tough fight, while the heal shield sucks and you basically never need it if you know the safe moments to heal
>>720723648Farm the reed warriors that are in the long hallways to the left of first shrine. 32 rosaries apiece or 55 with the thiefs mark. There is 4 iirc, when you reach the end save quit and relog
>>720723838Only losers use wanderer
>>720723608just everything in this fight, my reaction time reached its limit, it's too much things happening, i did the entire game (i think), but this fight, it has something more, atrocious visibility, everything is fast, i don't understand what's going on, i never react in time, i know it's the last fight and it's supposed to be hard but it's just too much, maybe i'm too old for this shit now
>>720723764The Radiance is sentient but that doesn’t make its hypnotic power a choice.
>>720723838Probably their first new crest, pogo is similar to the old game
>>720723664There should be an item in the weaver area of the void that you then install in your home
>>720723325Steel Soul player here. I'm going to defend casuals on this one:These pogo balls are spaced in such a way that the hunter crest specifically cannot just mash the button to go up. You need to correct midair for the 3rd jump. The issue is that to correct, you have to let go the left button. Otherwise, you need to go right and if you time it wrong, you will lunge yourself to the other direction.Hunter's pogo attack also happens to have most precise hitbox. Other crest have a generous arc or movement that makes pogo way easier, making Hunter the hardest to pogo with.
>>720723741If you did all that and got all the fleas and moved the caravan the guy in the First Shrine will go OY AHOY HOY at you and that's when you know
>>720723738>OTHERWISE YOUR SAVE IS BRICKEDOh no... Why?
>>720723740farm rosaries in the long corridors just left of Songclave, big enemies give tons of moneyBuy shard bundles for 50 at Bellhart shop
>>720722476>hornet makes her way back to hallownest>uses her new mastery of silk to bind HKs shattered body together>lace, being a cheeky little shit, nibbles at it>hollow knight just really happy to have family again
>>720723823Yeah I killed groal and moved the fleas to fleatopia, do you mean the chapel lady from the start? I'll go talk to her then
>>720723747>It’s close but the bitch teleports way too muchYou're meant to be constantly using your clawline in this fight.
>>720723570Map + Jump sounds pretty like a good ideaMan I want my floaty button back
>>720723718>>720723832The whole "you gotta buttonsmash to escape this enemy that has grabbed you" mechanic is basically identical in Night of Revenge.
>>720723875You're fine anon, just play more passive to learn her patterns first, do a normal jump to dodge and dash to approach
>>720723904>These pogo balls are spaced in such a way that the hunter crest specifically cannot just mash the button to go upthis is true that entire segment is designed to fuck with you and make you want other crests
>>720723870Warding bell is meant to be paired with Injector Band and Witch Crest. You get a really fast heal that can be used offensively. Since witch crest double and sometimes triple taps on a lot of its attacks you build up silk like a motherfucker and you get to use your heal as part of your combo game. It's crazy.
>>720723568I have never taken them off since I got them.
>>720723798>>720723936Obviously he's being a faggot, if you finish Shakra's quest first she helps you in the arena fight in High Halls. If she doesn't then Garmond shows up instead I believe.Either way I told her to gtfo, I don't need no help
How's the witch crest in your opinion? I liked it mainly because I got bored with architect and reaper. Moveset is cool and it feels like it does some good damage with claw mirror
>>720718686>got all fleas>got all songs>cleared the mountain, sands, fogs, and bogs>fought a bunch of optional bosses>dueled the mapmaker>got the witch crestUhhh, what's left to do before closing Act 2? I don't think I've met the criteria for unlocking Act 3 yet. Is using the songs a prerequisite?
>>720723838I’m still using Reaper, I don’t care. I have 5 maxed out crests at the moment and I won’t give up Reaper. It feels too right. I beat the game with Reaper, I’m gonna unlock Act 3 with Reaper, I’m gonna beat Act 3 with Reaper.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8I1ajNKKBYIf it wasnt for the fact the music is good Id call Team Cherry a bunch of hacks for adding in thumb of a design with no changes just because a cancer kid wanted it
>>720723936it isn't really but it does rob you of a really cool moment with her
>>720723741Go and fight Lace 2 then the final boss for the default ending first (don't worry you'll just be sent back to the last bench you rested at)
>>720724020>Garmond shows up instead I believeNo one showed up for me. I did that shit solo.
>>720723974Look at how overly detailed the struggle animations are compared to others. Once you notice you can not unnotice.
>>720724034Have you done all the wish board side quests? From what I understand that’s the main thing.
>>720723984thx, i will retry tomorrow
>>720724047They did change his shield. It was a penny in the original design but they made it into a cymbal.
>>720722693>command grabsIt doesn't mean what you think it means.
>>720723823>>720723915Oh right you meant this guy, he just gives me his generic dialogue still. Any idea what I could have missed? I've avoided looking anything up the whole game but this seems kind of obscure>>720724069Is that it? Do you need that ending first to unlock the true ending?
>>720723948Do you have this?https://hollowknightsilksong.wiki.fextralife.com/Snare+Setter
>>720724034Did you duel don quixote?
>>720724020By arena you mean that bullshit gauntlet? For me no one showed up, I suffered alone and I met Garmond multiple times
>>720722519>Not wanting the prequel where you must ascend from the abyss, then go on adventures to train with the king to assemble an alliance with all the kingdom's people, choosing the dreamers, and culminating in a fight with Radiance where you absorb her and get locked upOnly issue desu would be that it would just reuse all of HK assets and enemies
>>720723654Thanks nigger.
>>720723847>making you do the most stressful path in the game>no reward>surface is a whole lot of nothing>he just fucked off in the ending without explanationGranted, I never finished HK so I don't know what the deal with this character.
>>720723943And then they fucked.
>>720724034>dueled the mapmakerhow to trigger that quest ? I'm at the end and she still fren
>>720724020Does it actually brick any questline though? Or do you just not get assistance for the fight
>>720724152Yeah
>>720723948No, caretaker is the songlave boss
>>720724149I don't know if you need that ending first but definitely fight Lace. It's worth doing the normal ending first anyway since you can just jump right back in before the fight and get the act 3 unlock quest from him.
>>720724180He's just the dev insert that teases that future stuff is coming
>>720724105All of them that are available, yeah. I've also done the gourmand wish. Not a big deal because I want to get the basic ending first anyway. I've just been wondering if there's a trigger I'm missing for Act 3.
>>720719312Same. I just finished off the game and dropped it. I'm finding it fascinating how the fans defend the poor game design decisions. If they want a challenge, maybe they should try physical exercise. Git gud.
>>720724191Some time after Trail's End quest, a stick with one of her rings is placed outside Bellhart, by Greymoor's side. Hit it to duel her.
>>720724191You gotta hit the ring hanging outside of Bellhart in the field where the flea caravan used to be to trigger the duel. It is more of a practice bout rather than a serious fight.
>>720721419Unn and her worshippers seem pretty content to just fuck around and be wood elves.
>>720724213Then I have no clue, I got the act 3 quest by just exploring everything, so I don't know the exact triggers
These guys seem to be based on gypsies, but their names and voice lines sound slav instead.
Hollow Knight 3: New YorkLace finds human civilization and fights her way through to face the ultimate threat
people were so quick to turn Sherma into a meme when he only does the dinging like three-times total and only does it during Act 1. you oughta feel embarrassed.
>>720724191Finish her quest and ring her bell just outside Bellhart in the Moor>>720724034>got all songsHuh what does that even mean?
>>720723554Always jump away after she parries, this makes both of her ripostes safe and punishable
>>720724154How does one do this? He's just sitting around Songclave.>>720724171
>>720723875Slow down and breathe. I always think I'm filtered until I slow down and stop playing so aggressively. Also consider learning a different crest. Most of the game is designed with Hunter in mind which turn Reaper and Wanderer into noob traps. Architect and Witch are both really strong but require a different mentality.
>>720724194You just don’t get assistance for the fight. It isn’t even THAT bad, I was able to do it without the assist (and without having unlocked poison or tacks) and I’m kind of shit at this game. You just have to keep the Clappers on the same side of the arena and manage your heals smartly.
I'm getting really sick of this game being cancerous just for the sake of it.
>>720724282>>720724281thx
>>720724047Is there a reason they made him the eternal guardian of a fountain
Does multibinder interact in any way with the witch crest healing mechanic or is it just a waste of slot?
>>720723887They are also probably in the trap thinking that it does more damage since large and slow hits = more damage, which is should be true
>>720724194No he's just being kind to anon by letting him experience the joy of fighting alongside Shakra again.
>>720724342Based. Drop this shit, King. You deserve to have fun playing games
>>720724342Take the poison pill and cheese everything
>>720724081Yeah, especially the animations where her upper torso is being vored and her legs just dangle and kick about are shit you could have taken straight from a h-game.
>>720723640Infinite amount of time because flea game is impossible with that piece of shit
>>720724317He does it anytime you play the needle near himAlso, built for /ss/ with taller warrior-bugs ladies
>>720724302You need to fight Lace.
>remember when we made forgotten crossroads cancer because of lore bullshit?>what if we did that for the entire map?team cherry are so retarded im so fucking fed up of gameplay suffering in the name of lore. its like they paid way too much attention to the >muh ludonarrative dissonanceshit around tlou2 and autistically make sure all gameplay aligns with the story no matter how unfun it makes the game
>>720724363I believe it does lengthen the amount of time the AOE is on screen but I haven't tested enough.
So, I found that huge wall behind a secret passage in the Underworks, which seems to be connected to Bellhart. But there's no way to open it from the outside, and no way to get to it from Bellhart. Is this some "act 3" shit there? Combined with the fact that it seems to be physically impossible to deliver the gourmand request from Bellhart, I suspect there's a shortcut from Bellhart to Underworks in there, but it's closed right now.
>>720721818The swamp chapter in Blood West was cool, but then again, you could just shoot everything.
>>720724447>her upper torso is being vored and her legs just dangle and kickwhere does this happen?
So whats the exact age gap between Hornet and Lace?Is it still fine for them to be in a relationship regardless if Lace "has the mind of a child"?
>>720724465You know you can change crests right
>>720724447If she gets swallowed by groal you can see her lit up in her gut
Ants are based. Ant supremacy
I found a great lost garmond cheese, he doesn't jump so... spam the rolling wheel, i didn't even need to fight, he died somewhere outside the screen, i could just hear his pain while being butchered in the distance, that makes it the easiest fight in the game
>>720724536This enemy for example.>>720722997
>>720724520act 3, top left of greymore
>>720724520>Combined with the fact that it seems to be physically impossible to deliver the gourmand request from Bellhart,GitGudThough doing it after getting the double jump helps a lot
>>720720383Dark Souls 2 really is the best comparison I've found too. The game wasn't hard but it relied on subverting player expectations about enemy and boss behavior. Once you see the trick the rest of the game isn't a challenge. It's just about painting by numbers.
>>720724548They aren't romantic, anon. Lace is protege, not mate.
>>720724536The flying noodle enemies in the abyss
>>720724520Nope, it's to tell you there's a secret area around here
>>720724520Oh yeah, that huge pipe? No idea, never returned there and forgot where it is. Maybe there's something above using the act 3 movement skill, but I doubt it, I guess it's just a fucking wall
>>720724496trvk nvke but how was forgotten crossroad cancer? the medusa tunnels were way more cancer imo
>>720724496Infected Crossroads wasn't nearly as bad, because enemies dropped fat cash to reflect being endgame giga-niggers. Void infections drop the same fucking money, which was trash to begin with, and the turrets don't drop money or give silk at all.
>>720718686>thought the Haunting is why beads and shit were being used as currency, because the economies' collapsed in the absence of rule from people up above and actual money became useless>turns out that no, the people in Pharloom literally just did get paid in "faith" and the Haunting didn't even change that much economy-wiseThis place is so hilariously shit
I will stay here for a while, phase 2 is filtering me. Also how do I reload the railgun?
>>720724157>I suffered alone and I met Garmond multiple timesWhy is getting Don Quixote to show up where you need him the biggest mystery in this game?
>>720724548Hornet is straight
>>720724642it wasnt that cancer on its own (aside from the reeing exploding fucks) but scaling it to the entire map was a horrible idea
>>720724520>it seems to be physically impossible to deliver the gourmand request from BellhartIt’s not. Shellwood > Blasted Steps > Grand Hall > Choral Chambers, you have enough time if you don’t get hit and don’t dawdle.I have no idea if the area you’re talking about can or can’t be opened, maybe it can, but it doesn’t need to be to get the rasher to the gourmand.
>>720724673enjoy it, I think First Sinner is the best boss in the game. She's amazing since she doesn't have contact damage. Stay on top of her.
>>720724673Bro your harpoon? This fight is desgined for you to spam your harpoon.
>>720724562Seriously? I never got hit by that swallow attack so I didn't even know that.
>>720724548They are romantic, anon. Lace is mate, not protege.
>>720724673Just wait for her to do her attack-teleport loop and get like six hits in a row instead of bothering with risky shots.
>>720724612>if Lace "has the mind of a child"?That's not a problem
>>720724180But there are two rewards up there
>>720724548Hornet is older than the snail shamans as they refer to her as old one. Also fuck snails.
>>720724673Beastard moment
LACE IS ONLY 257 YEARS OLD YOU SICK FUCKS!
>>720724603>>720724734I sprint the whole way, and even if I don't get hit, I just run out of time around the flea camp. WAIDW?
>>720724846That's reaper crest, anon...
I got the twisted bud, time to visit greyroot.After that I only need to find the map of the slab and explore it more and I will be ready for act 3.
>>720724180You mean the most fun path
>>720724906>he hasn’t explored The SlabSo you still have a boss fight ahead of you?
>>720724861Go through the Exhaust Organ. Also, start your route from the gourmand. Don't rest on any benches, clear the enemies. That way you only have to navigate the platforming while you have the meat. Kill everything between gourmand and Bellhart.
>>720724612She can be both
>>720724554You know if you're not using reaper then you're not using reaper, right?
>>720723325You're surprised casual gamers have casual gaming skills? Truly boggles the noggle doesn't it?
>>720724906Yeah bro have fun at the slab after visiting root
I fucked up on going to Act 3 before doing the Couriers Rasher quest
so now that the phenomena of sequels being cancerous for no reason is being talked about, I think it's time for /v/ to address those megaman zero games....
>>720724861Are you going through Blasted Lands the optimal way? I mean it’s tight you only get there with a little time to spare, but if you’re efficient you should make it with no mistakes.
>>720724849out of 10!
>>720724831Congrats retard you made me check. There's ONE reward and that is home decor shit.
>>720724496Hint for Act3, any time you enter a room and there's already 2+ voided enemies, then there's a void turret somewhere, go kill it immediately.The void masses don't respawn, and once they're gone, the room is more or less back to normal (enemies can still get the void buff if you engage them, but it's not guaranteed/you can kill them before).
>>720725036>i must use reaper at all times or it doesn't countAutismYou know you don't start with reaper, right?
>>720724548We don't really have a timeframe of events for Pharloom yet. Going by Hollownest's general timelime Hornet is pretty seriously fucking old even by the events of Hollow Knight 1 but not truly ancient.Aging in Hollow Knight is weird because by Pharloom Hornet is - in that infamous line - complaining that any partner she'd have would die of age but in the first game Quirrell is older than her, as he actively worked as Monomon's assistant whereas Hornet was a Dreamer condition for Hecah and only came at the very end of the arrangement, and he's just some fucking dude. Presumably both older than Elderbug.
Does anyone have a list of the triggers for act 3? It's honestly driving me insane because I spent 50 hours exploring every inch of the map, and now I might have to look at some spoilery detailed guide anyway because apparently there's some obscure shit I missed. >killed groal and got the seekers soul >did every wish I found >moved the fleas to fleatopia >explored every area >saved gay mantis dancer guy and found him mourning in the citadel >dueled zaza >revived the robot knight with the cogwork heart >helped Shakra find her master >killed the first sinner, phantom, the father of flame>unlocked all the weaver doors with the needolin Seriously wtf else does Team Cherry have expected me to find? It was nowhere near this easy to miss the true ending after being this thorough in Hollow Knight
>>720725134Other one is a hunter's log entry
>>720725134The home decor and the 2 hunter logs (one for the flying guy during the climb and the one on the surface)
>>720724861Scale Blasted Lands with wall kicks, don’t take the OG zigzag. That area is way faster to navigate once you have Faydown and Clawline, don’t run it like your first run-through. When I ran it I had a full segment of timer left when I reached the restaurant.
>>720725231Finish most quests and get a home in Bellhart
>>720724948Yes, I saw it in every tierlist, and saw a lot of people talking about it.>>720725068I think I will remove the curse before doing that.
>>720725165Now read the first post of this reply chain again and conclude that you are an illiterate double moth
>>720724991>Exhaust OrganIs it even a proper area? I killed the Phantom early on, but got no map. I thought I explored everything, but maybe there's another way in somewhere I missed. All those pipes look the same.
>>720725301I did that like 20 hours of playtime ago
FUCK THE CORAL TOWERFUCK THE CORAL TOWERFUCK THE CORAL TOWERFUCK THE CORAL TOWERFUCK THE CORAL TOWERFUCK THE CORAL TOWERFUCK THE CORAL TOWER
>>720725167Quirrel was kept alive by Monomon's mask.Once he'd given that up to help the Knight, Quirrel started aging rapidly.Masks could have the ability to sustain otherwise mortal bugs, given others like Dung Defender and Ze'mer are even older than Quirrel and Hornet.
>>720724497Yep you are correct, another question. Does the witch crest have a healing cap like the beast crest?
>>720725346Dis nigga getting rekt by reskinned ants
>>720725231You’re rechecking wish boards right? Maybe that’s a stupid question but you know that after clearing wishes, new ones get added?Also, what’s the farthest you’ve progressed the story? Have you gotten the “bad end” yet or no?
>>720725346What sucks about Coral Tower is that there was no dungeon before the boss rush. You had no opportunity to learn the patterns of the new enemies before the gauntlet.
>>720725346Weaverlight + Pale Nails your way through and make sure you've got the Fleatopia oil, everything should melt pretty easily.
>>720725231Lace 2 + GMS, all wishboard quests, Fleatopia
>>720724020For Garmond to show up you need to duel him in a secret spot near the Archive.I missed that on my playthrough but I wonder if you can get both him AND Shakra to help.>>720723936You just miss a Hunter's Journal entry for both of them that isn't required for the achievement.
>>720725301Nta, I got a home after unlocking it, I think.
>>720723130True, but it does remind me that the Grubfather is also a dick (maybe).>>720723396This is an interesting theory, there's probably some dream nail dialogue that contradicts it though.
>gauntletsartificial difficulty>boss adds spamartificial difficulty>runbacksartificial difficulty>contact damageartificial difficulty>2 masks damageartificial difficulty>floor is lava on boss arenaartificial difficultyartificial difficulty: the game
>>720725426>You’re rechecking wish boards right? Maybe that’s a stupid question but you know that after clearing wishes, new ones get added?Yeah I've triple checked every town >Also, what’s the farthest you’ve progressed the story? Have you gotten the “bad end” yet or no?No, I've played the threefold song and gone up the elevator to Lace but haven't beaten her yet, but apparently the caretaker should talk to you before that >>720725452Alright I'll try just beat it normally first and see what happens before I look anything up
>>720725615truke
>>720725324It is a sub area of another area. There is a map, its just not there
>>720725615Yes, suck it up faglord
>>720725515>True, but it does remind me that the Grubfather is also a dick (maybe).He's just a big ol' cocoon.
>>720724034You have to fight lace one more time then the song cave caretaker will have a very important quest for you.
>>720724149You don't need to do the regular ending first but you might have to beat Lace
Is anything permanently missable in Silksong? I'm never going to replay a 30 hours long metroidvania.
>>720725615lienvke
Here is your daily reminder last judge is easy phantom is easy widow is easy first sinner is easy
Will my save brick if I get the cursed ending or will I be able to jump back in and go to act 3?
>>720725615You got filtered
>When you save Sherma in White Ward and even when you play for him his singing is scared and broken upPoor little boy...
>>720723870https://youtu.be/2LNGR70ONpAWeavelight's silk regen is way better than a lot of people think.
Be honest anons, for a player that found this game extremely difficult, is Steel Soul doable with guides/farming/maximum cheese? I feel like this isn't nearly as unforgiving as soulslikes for deathless since you can't get 1-shot by rolling off a cliff, but some of the gauntlets are daunting...
>>720725731>30 hours longtry 50 hours, 100% the game in under 30 hours is a speedrun achievement.Yes there are two optional fights that are missable but they don't count for completion percentage
>First Sinner, Trobbio, KarmelitaOnly good bosses I found as I finished the game (gameplay-wise)There are too many HK tier bosses like Seth, Pinstress, Khann, Second Sentinel, etc.
I thought weavers are the good guys
7207257753day ban for frogslop
>>720725828just equip the "ydnbtg" mask and quit out every time it breaks
>>720725231Did you find all the fleas and talk to flearmaster afterwards? I think that's a requirement, also after killing lace, go back songclave and the snail priest will have a new wish called silk and soul, that's the trigger for act 3.
>>720725721>>720725729Noteworthy that after beating Lace 2 and advancing to Cradle, you actually get unique dialogue about it with most characters. It's clearly a very important gameplay trigger. I'm not sure exactly where it is (bench in Cradle? Ventrica in Cradle? Just beating Lace?) but hitting that trigger is one of the prereqs for the Act 3 set up.
>>720725790Doesn't it only regen the grey part? I only got one fucking silkheart since the start of the game, and I'm like 30 hours in.
>>720724548I think the intent may have been for people to view it as a mother and daughter thing, given that Lace is referred to as physically and mentally childlike and Hornet alludes to the fate of other children (the Vessels) in the Lost Lace journal entry.Combined with the fact that Lace needs Hornet's silk to survive and I don't think they wanted you to view it as Hornet having a child to care for. This fits with the theme of mothers throughout the game with Grandma with Lace and Phantom, the Weavers with Eva, a mother-figure with Shakra's Master and Shakra and the whole Red Memory sequence and White Lady, Herrah and Vespa with Hornet.Now Hornet can act as mother-figure to Lace to raise her better than Silk ever had.
>>720725742Widow was actually easy though. The other 3 I know you're memeing, but Widow was a super easy fight.
>>720725742All of these are true
>>720725615artificial post
>>720725847Weird ones to have a problem with, when I think of trash HK bosses I think "floats around and throws shit at you" like the ghosts or all the add-summoning bosses in Silksong. Second Sentinel doesn't even have projectiles, he's just a duel.
>>720725901Am i supposed to be bothered by that? I am one of the people who occasionally make these threads, and I got a warning from the trannies yesterday.
>>720725731>30 hourlollmao even
S tier >Wanderer >ReaperA tier >hunter>witchB tier>archetect >Beast.I don't think anything is lower than b tier but architect is help back but it's unwieldy normal attacks and beast is held back by is healing method being easily the worst in the game with no upside.
>>720726130>reaper>not F tier
im despising act 3 so far. game peaked with act 2
>>720726083They've been doing this to every single new game with ongoing threads after like a week. Feels like we need to start complaining on IRC since most anons haven't even finished the game yet so of course there's ongoing discussion
>>720726130So if I don’t use Beast crest I didn’t beat the game? Fml…
>>720726130In what world isn't Hunter S-tier, it's the only one that gets a damage buff and it's pogo is fine for combat since enemies don't sit still for chains anymore. Otherwise good reach, good speed. Reaper on the other hand is slow ass.
>>720726130>beast heal is bad>witch in A tier
>>720726082Those feel like a slightly tweaked watcher knights to me, also feels a little like I'm playing a turn based game in real time
>>720725615TRVKE
>>720722728Nah you're right, Karak is harder and it's not even the hardest considering HK/PoP. I was hoping for something equivalent to be in base Silksong but I guess we'll have to wait (if any, lol)
Beat Mist path. It wasn't so bad. Legends did lie. Though I have double jump, 8 masks. It feels like another trolling from devs>alternative to "judge and her runback" >no bench in mists>ghosts>boss x3 times harder >still need to do a little parkour in the pipes
>>720726293
>Can overload on Plasmium vials and turn your healthbar entirely into plasmium health>Think that its a neat mechanic but worthless>The plasmium health gains regeneration in returnArchitect crest bros cant stop winning
>>720726083You just have to put "Dall-E" in the subject field.AI slop is a-okay on the vidya board.
Covering the Choral Chambers in shit for act 3 is unforgivable. I was vibing to the music and aesthetic, remembering playing Hocus Pocus as a kid and loving the Miyazaki feeling of a decaying Laputian citadel, only for them to cover it in zombie cum.
>>720726251Watcher Knights are absolute chumps by the standards of post-Silksong difficult, those guys do jack shit and move at the speed of molasses.
Bosses fucking suck. Either you get 0 reward for it or its just waves of the most cancerous mobs with no reward
>>720726193Woah dude, are you... good at video games? That is so cool dude. Can I get your autograph? No actually forget it, I didn't mean to bother you.
>HEY BRO YOU WANT THAT NICE UPGRADE TO WEAPON DAMAGE?>WELL CHUD I HOPE YOU LOVE BACKTRACKING THROUGH MULTIPLE LEVELS MULTIPLE TIMES>AND YOU'RE ON A TIMER>AND IF YOU DASH INTO A WALL THE TIMER DEPLETES>AND IF YOU GET HIT THE TIMER DEPLETES>WHAT? YOU'RE NOT HAVING FUN?Literal cancerous ass Dark Souls 2 zero fun dogshit design. Kill yourselves you worthless fucking hacks, this game is complete dogshit
>>720726334YDNBTG
>>720726130>no upsideYou can heal at -2, get hit and regain that lost health, and you get attack speed and range. It is bad, but it has a lot of upsides.
>>720726358The reward is a feeling of pride and accomplishment from beating a worthy foe.
>>720726082Second Sentinel was one of my favorite fights, actually. I'm not sure if that's an Approved Opinion or not but I thought it was really fucking cool. Not as good as Lace, but still really good. Even though the game does a great job of danmaku-ing I still think the most memorable fights are the duels. Sentinel, the Laces, Phantom, these are the fights that stick out most clearly in my mind. The only "dodge the patterns" fight that I think was truly kino was the Cogwork Dancers and that's just because of the synchronicity with the music.
>>720726338Eceleb threads are okay too but only approved eceleb threads.No sseth or mandy.
>>720726217>it's the only one that gets a damage buffIs it worth it compared to Wanderer's crits?
>>720726389Reminder that if you didn't go straight up through Wisp Thicket you didn't beat the Courier jerky quest.
>>720726026You can get the other silk hearts both in act 2. One by exploring white ward and the other by beating a story boss.
>>720726198Somehow posting porn and endless threads about horse gacha games are totally fine, but discussing actual games is bannable.
>>720726332I don't understand.
>>720726389Do it with double jump as God intended
>>720726389Wow if only there was, idk like a charm that makes you faster. And maybe if they added a way to not have monsters respawn that would be great too.
>>720726424I never abused it so IDBTG
>>720726334This sounded gay so I didn't use it
bros... where has shakra gone in act 3... is she ok?
>>720726475>white wardI was just there last evening. Explored everything but the locked area. Because after I got the key, I think the game puts you on a one-way street out of the area. So I didn't have time to explore it. It's on my to-do list still.Also>that spool fragmentI played way too much FromSoft games for this even count as "hiding" loot from the player. Step up your game, Team Cherry.
>>720726285Path of Pain was SO much easier than Karak. Path of Pain wasn't hard at all. Path of Pain was Super Meat Boy. As precise as the jumps were, you got infinite chances and like 6 individual checkpoints during the section. Path of Pain could be bitten off and chewed in stages. Karak is a lubeless gauntlet of ass fucking and I did it before they patched sandworms to only do 1 mask of damage.
So if I want to access Act 3 I have to complete the quest the bug at the first shrine gives us after beating Lace?If I don't do it and still beat Grand Mother Silk I get the normal ending? And then after that I can do the quest and get to Act 3?
>>720726515The horse gacha games have been getting hit for a while now (I also post in there)
>>720726542maybe even a tool that increases your running speed
>>720726458It's a massive buff, 40% at level 2.Wanderer crits are super rare and rely on sitting at a full spool's worth of silk with is just leaving damage on table, most of the damage is from the pure base attack speed increase. Wanderer is still really good too, though, that's also an easy S by any metric.
>>720719074You can get the first two nail upgrades in under 2 hours if you know what you are doing.
>>720726539I have double jump, you still have to traverse horrific levels and dodge enemies. It's just fucking annoying for the sake of being annoying. I see everyone complaining about the bosses but I legitimately have zero problems with any bosses. My problems are just with the dogshit level design and the constant backtracking through said dogshit levels>>720726542Zoomers are fucking retards I don't know you faggots all type like this. this quest should not be this cancerous. It's not even the only part to getting the upgrade I have to go traverse back through the entire game to find people that give me other ingredients. This is just unnecessary levels of ass
>>720726625she's the only thing keeping bellhart safe
Gacha and porn threads are good (anime board).Take notes from XIV threads and their wars against a janny. Adapt. Just make bait Silksing threads.For example instead of comfy threads it's random twitter screencap ragebait threads or youtube screencaps.
>>720726659yes to all
How does hornet drink with her mask on?
>>720726358Yeah bosses used to drop a shitload of geo, why the fuck do we not get rosaries and shards in this game?
>>720726659You can even get the normal ending after doing the crest, it just adds an option to the final fight takedown.
>>720726765That's a mask?
>>720726761where is she
>>720726776>why the fuck do we not get rosaries and shards in this game?7 years
>>720726445>worthy foeMost bosses suck ass.
>>720726648delusional
>>720726659The silk quest that asks to set up a trap is the key to accessing Act 3. When finished even when you beat GMS you are still given the choice of doing the bad ending or proceeding to Act 3. Doing the bad ending will just set you back to your last bench point
>>720726519Ah fuck, this got animated?I need diabetes, is it well done?
>>720726542>just do the route TWICE, one to kill all enemies, then you do the actual route with the itemartificial difficultyit wasn't fun on hk1, it's worse in hk2
>>720726717>rely on sitting at a full spool's worth of silkyou only need one healful of silk to get the crits
Platforming is the most fun part of the gameClimbing to the surface? KVNO
>>720726727you can beat the game in an hour if you know what you're doing, what's your point?
>>720726851Gohands ludoCGkino as always
>>720726648>Path of Pain was SO much easier than KarakNo, you just don't remember, path of pain was really hard.
>>720726539I almost did it without double jump but I ran face first into the second-to-last side opening door near the banquet hallI was too mad to try again so I left it for later; eventually got double jump and it's so much easier that way, you can get hit several times
Do you have the Silksong thumb, /v/?
>>720726821bellhart or vicinity of bellhart
>>720726793Anon she collects mask shards, and iirc her shadow inside the cocoon doesn't have one
>>720726914That's a lot to be sitting on. Especially with the silk heart regen I kind of what my bar at empty all the time to be damage maxxing with spells.
>>720726741HK has infinitely times worse version of that quest and it rewards a maskits not hard, not even challenging, not even fucking annoying, its just a quest that requires different approach to how u played the game until nowmaybe for once instead of complaining about something just look for a solution, either by asking for help or figuring it yourself
>>720727057The Mask Maker also says she already has a mask.
>>720726389Seethe harder shitter. Literally get the grapple hook and double jump then figure out the easiest path to take. Ill help you since you sound like a brainlet normie.>bellhart go up then left>blasted steps, use your double jump and grapple to basically bypass everything>grand gate, use double jump to climb up the weight pedastels>climb up the citadel, this is the hardest part since you have to avoid some enemies>reach the ingredients guyGood luck
>>720726519>>720726978What's that from?
>>720726951Mount Fay and the surface climb feel so much shorter than White Palace/PoP.
>>720726839No, I stand by it. Path of Pain is a different kind of difficult. The execution is hard, but the penalty for failure is a very small amount of lost time. Every time you clear an area in PoP you get a platform you respawn on when you hit the spikes, along with an infinitely regenerating soul totem so you can heal. You "die", you're instantly back in it trying again, forever. You can build up muscle memory, learn and adapt quickly. In Karak, you make 5 mistakes and you have to restart at a bench, re-run shit you've already ran, waste time. You'll find yourself choking on segments you had already cleared because your muscle memory has adapted to a new section. The game tilts you by making you re-do complicated things, and because of the auto-scroller nature of it there's a lot of time spent grinding your teeth annoyed that you aren't back at the thing you've been trying to figure out.Path of Pain was more challenging to execute, but far less frustrating. It's way less of a nightmare. When I think of That Part platforming, I'm thinking of the vine pogo runs in Karak, not PoP.Then again, I will also say it took me a shamefully long time to figure out that you could clawline into pogo targets to get a free pogo off of them. And that probably made a lot of Karak harder than it needed to be. I didn't figure it out until the very last jump in the very last room, where it's literally required.
>>720727085>its just a quest that requires different approach to how u played the game until nowit's antifunit's a spit on the face to people that like the game and want to complete all tasks and see everything it has to offer
>trying to beat the flea games
>>720727081>keep one healful of silk to get crits>spend the second half of the silk on spellsI don't understand your point, are you a silklet? Do you have silk issue?
>>720727085I don't give a fuck what any other game has you fucking retard. It's shit. It's shit design. End of discussion. It's tedious for the entire sake of it being tedious, and it's something you really have to get because it's an upgrade to your damage and everything is also unnecessarily tanky. And I've already completed the quest. It's SHIT.
>>720727138First one is forgot her glassessecond one is Momentary LilyThe second one is trash
>>720726648Every single criticism against Karak can be applied to PoP and every single positive you list about PoP, can be applied (to varying degree) to KarakYou have selective memory
>>720727131Citadel isn't hard, but if you're afraid of getting hit, just equip bees are let them fight enemies for you in the citadel.
>>720727213reaper for the pogo minigame is easy mod
>>720727218Silk regen plus silk hits is faster at shitting out damage than silk hits alone, I don't know why you're having trouble grasping this concept.
>the citadel was originally a temple for ascetic monks and pilgrims>got turned into a materialistic shithole with currency that they once used for their faithFUCK THE WEAVERS
>>720726229Witch has a build that actually fixes that problem.Beast does not.
>>720726648If you want to make Karak easier, get 3 silk hearts + the silk regen charm, you can now spam harpoon + cloak + harpoon
>>720727319and crits shit out triple damage, something you might not have taken into consideration beside the fact that wanderer regenerates silk twice as fast because of the twice as fast attack speed
>>720727276They're totally different, though. The only thing they have in common is that they're difficult platforming sections.
>>720727186>but the penalty for failure is a very small amount of lost timeI think this can be said for all of silksong in general. The runbacks, the benches too far apart, the gauntlets, everything feels a lot more punishing than it did on hk1, and it too often threads the line between fun and frustrating. I still like the game but, you know
>>720726425Beast heal should have more than three.Also this game is still loaded with 2 masks of damage beast is still a deficit. With its risk.
>>720727337Ahhhh aggresive religion such as 13th century Christanity and Muslims/Jews now, my beloved
>>720727441Team Cherry fell for the "hard/tedious = good" meme.
>>720727276You can't get sent back to a bench in PoP (unless you make the choice to be dumb, you get infinite heals). PoP also has no enemies where you're dealing with their RNG behavior messing up your flow. PoP never forces you to re-run a section you already cleared to get back to a section you're stuck on. Waiting for sawblade cycles is far less painful than the auto-scrolling vines. PoP ends in a 5 second showdown against two shitters, not a fucking Raging Conchfly boss fight with a bench at the bottom of the goddamn area.I refuse to back down on this. Fuck Karak.
>>720727448Does multi binder extend the beast rage stance?
>>720727337>>the citadel was originally a temple for ascetic monks and pilgrimsSouce???
>>720727441The double damage was/is a big part of it too. In combat you're constantly regaining silk to heal. But for the platforming sections there's usually few, if any, enemies to eat so can only fuck up a very small amount of times.
>>720727517Hard is good, Team Cherry fell for the "tedium is a fun punishment" meme.
>>720727209>>720727221just get a mod to make it never disappear then goobers
I finished the game 91% completionI hate looking up stuff in guides but this is gonna be a tough one, I feel like I've already explored the map thoroughlyI didn't do it after getting the last powerup so perhaps it will be that important
>>720727294it's dodge that's fucking me up sadly. something always goes wrong and I feel like I'm not getting any better at it
>>720727539did you just, completely ignore everything in whispering vaults, cogwork core and the whole reason why you collect the melodieson top of missing the whole point why all enemies are called pilgrims and they all want to reach citadel
>>720727680>I feelDon't "feel". Document your playthrough thouroughly.
>>720727337society
>>720727680no shame in checking where masks and spools are imo, my last ones were in places i already had exploredmy fault for not pinning them on the map after entering and realizing i have no tools to progress
>>720727742nta but TC learned storytelling from Miyazaki, so no wonder barely anyone understood the story
>>720727742I think you're maybe putting a little too much faith in the propaganda, anon. I don't think the things said about the Citadel are necessarily true of the Citadel. It's pretty clear that it's a construct that's used to reinforce a rigid class hierarchy to produce a permanent source of life-extending silk for a privileged elite. Just because they SAY you have a holy duty to make the pilgrimage unarmed doesn't mean that this is anything but a lie they tell you to make you easier to enslave into their silk market. It's like how Scientology says you have a holy duty to cut off connection with people in your past life and give all your money to the Church. That doesn't actually mean Space God is real, or was ever real, or anyone in a position of power ever believed any of it.
some npc on the first shrine commented he herd a child's laughis this something I should look into or is it just flavor text?
>>720727826You're right. Even though satisfied I'm burned out (this is the first time I ever put these many hours in such a small amount of time) so I'll take a week off or so, but I'll scour the map>>720727849Interestingly enough I got all spools, but masks I'm missing 3. Dunno if that makes spools better allocated since I got them through standard play with regular backtracking in act 2In pic related news, I was so happy to see this guy alive
>>720727742I dunno I'm not gunna believe the records of a place that locked up a chick for renouncing faith while also make workshoppers pay to sit on a bench
>>720728113can't think of any npc that looks like a child and laughs a lot?there's nothing more to that piece of dialogue, just a bit of foreshadowing
Apparently little pilgrim can be saved and not die?!?! You even learn his name......
>>720728198I only missed 1 spool and it was under whiteward elevator so i agree they are very well placed.For masks they are mostly in areas that you had access to for a long time but had no tools to reach them so without pins you will end up missing 1-4 depending on how you progress.The missing tools however are sometimes bizarre
STILL CAN'T BEAT MOMMY WHILE CURSED AND IT MAKES ME NOT WANT TO PLAY ANYMORE, SPENT AT LEAST 2 HOURS ON THIS
>>720728354I learned his name, but the skull tyrant nigger killed him 10 seconds later.
This is pretty cool, I don't think I have ever seen the effect posted here before.
>>720728253ok thanks
>>720728441took me 1 and i can pretty much do lace3 hitless now so i feel you but you will get there
>>720728513I need you to record and post that second claim, anon
>>720728460I'm thankful no one ruined the surprise for me. I really liked the effect.
>>720728441are you that "the needles spawn offscreen" anon?leave your corner.
>>720728638theres been countless videos already of it done hitless so im not gonna bother, although im thinking of one with 0 tools including the passive ones
>>720728460Its a nice way to show you that, oh fuck it wasn't an ending, it was a transition
How many speed runners are going to mald at the rng wishes like the pins for the songclave? Everyone eventually will reach a singularity of mechanical skill so the rng is probably going to be the big divider on times
>check lost lace while cursed>cant find any resultsuhhhhh, no giga autists out there or its just impossible to enter abyss cursed?
>>720727221what a baby
>>720728907any% speedrunners are already going bald from the mist and clockwork dancers RNG
>>720728935I got the curse cured halfway through act 2 because I figured out what to do with the baby instantly and didn't know I'd be fucked by doing so
>>720728935I don't think you can play the needolin while cursed i believe it forces that ending
>>720729054but i mean getting the curse right after you acquire the flower
>>720728797The ones I see all use parry or broken weapon tools or double damage dealed/received so yours would be cool
>>720726130>Architect is b tierIt has the strongest charge attack out of the crests that just melts everything with great range and it gives you easy access to a regeneratable healthbar once you use 9 plasmium vialsIts an easy S tier
