UPGRADE. YOUR. FUCKING. PC. CHUD!!!https://x.com/DuvalMagic/status/1967424826697781446
How is Randy still employed?
>>720722653>UPGRADE. YOUR. FUCKING. PCThis, but unironicallyAbout to spend 5k on a gaming rig
another BADASS take by Randy GODford
>>720722653Is randy actually completely retarded or what.
>>720722653>cant code proper my product - the postget fucked Randy
>>720722783silksong is the only good PC game out this year.PC gaming is dead
>>720722843LUCK build with 1 INT
Based Todd & Randy calling people poor
>>720722653>It's the consumer's fault our game runs like shit!
>>720722653I don't have a problem with the performance. I have problems with the crashes.
>>720722762He's the owner
I upgraded my PC like last year from a 1080ti to 4080, I don't really need to.
>>720722887>silksong is the only good PC game out this year.I know, I got 140 hours in alreadyAlso expedition 33
>>720722762>>720722843randy is peak CEO. literally contributes nothing, has a gigantic ego, kept afloat by luck and his underpaid employees
>>720722931>Borderlands 4 is a premium game for premium gamers
>>720722653b-but Randy, I'm only getting 45 FPS on my RTX 5090 at 4k ... please advise
>>720722653>If you are so attached to the idea that DLSS is bad for your game experience because of something you saw or read on the internetWhat if i think DLSS is shit because of my time using it?
He's right in the sense that you are not entitled to modern AA or AAA games that you can run on a 10 years old rig. There are enough new indie games or old games that you can already play on old machines for a life time.
>>720722653why should the highest of the high pc hardware need to fake frames to hit 60fps?why can't devs just optimize their games?wouldn't it make sense to try to aim for the largest market possible?maybe this is the downside of outsourcing everything to india.
>>720722931See these would all be good points if :>the game didn't look like utter diarrhea >the game was improved in any way since the previous game>the game had a need to be a resource hog for some reason, it still has load screensSince the game is basically exactly the same as their last effort but made in a newer version of the same engine we can conclude that the only thing that really change is that they're terrible at their jobs and all need to be fire.
>>720722653>pseudo cel shading>cartoon textures>not much different from previous BLs which ran fine on a 1080>OI YOU NEED A 5080 MIN NOW CHUD!
>>720723057he's avoid the elephant in the room that it still runs like shit on a modern $5000 PC unless you use DLSS
>>720723057The problem is having a great current rig and still needing fake AI frame gen bullshit to just get playable frame rates.
>>720722931You know what? This is great. We need 10 new Randys a month, and I know we will get them eventually, this industry can't help itself. The few remaining AAA consumers will be all chased off.
>>720722653What changed to make devs so against optimisation?
>hmmmmmp actually you can't criticize this movie if you are not a moviemaker yourself>heh stupid chud, how about you make your own movie?
>>720722653retard take
>>720722653Randy Bobandythought he was so dandydrank too much brandyhad a little girl give him a handy
Randy your game runs like shit and is an unoptimized piece of garbage. Relying on hardware to do the heavy lifting instead of putting the effort to make your game run well is fucking retarded, although way too common these days
>>720723264How many jeets did he hire to cut back on paying good coders?
>what do you mean the game runs bad lol?>stupid fucking chuds, just drop every setting to ultra low, put resolution to 720p, and make your game look like utter garbage from the ps3 era lol>it's that simple chuds
How despotic of a CEO do you have to be to not be crucified by your own PR department after pulling shit like that
>>720722931>premium game for premium gamersSo why does it look like two gens ago?
>>720723246mass hiring of cheap labour
This shit is why I don't pay for western games anymore.
>zoomers now believe everyone on 2007 ran crysis at ultra settings 1024x768 60fps with an 8 year old pentium 2 and a voodoo 3
I don't even play borderlands and I'm butthurt. Is this nigger serious? Their latest game looks marginally better than bordelands 1. What exactly warrants these hardware requirements?
>>720722653>games are only for us rich leftists, chudsWell, better start charging $500 for them.
I SAY RANDYYOU SAY BADASSRANDY
>>720722931>premium game for premium gamers
>>720723514Borderlands 4 can't hit over 60fps 4k with a 5090.
>>720722653borderlands 4 looks the same as borderlands 3 looks the same as borderlands 2 looks the same as borderlands 1literally how can this run worse? it's fucking cel shading and it has no actual cool and resources demanding physx shit like 2there is no excuse for this shitgod fucking dammit, the second vidya crash cannot come soon enough
>>720723514Yeah but the difference is new hardware is 100x better but the game looks only slightly better yet runs 100x worse. What happened to games man?
>>720722931Motherfucker, there is no monster truck. You are riding a bicycle that eats fuel like a fucking jet for no reason at all.
Which BL was it where all the devs were fired when the game released?
I cannot wait for the incompetence of devs to finally outpace the ability of hardware crutches to keep up. We're this close. We already have games who barely run on top notch hardware at current-gen resolutions without fake frames and artificial upscaling. Not much longer now, and we'll be getting even more incompetently made games that will run like shit even at max generated frames and fake resolution upscaled 720. Come on, do it. Fucking accelerate down the retardation highway.
>>720723443Gearbox’s PR department is Randy making porn subreddits
>>720722762(((Investors)))>>720722783I'm not going to buy a 5090 so I can get 40 FPS on this shit. >>720722931The game looks worse than games released in 2007. I'd be perfectly fine with a demanding game that required the highest end newest hardware, if it was doing something impressive.
>>720723707I'm not hyped for that because i don't believe anyone can pick up the pieces
>>720723676In this case even that's not true, BL4 looks like shit, it looks like a game from a decade+ ago even completely maxed out.
>>720722653dlss sucks
>>720723514You stupid fucking gorilla, people are upset because top end hardware can't even run modern games at max which even then only look marginally better than ones released over a decade ago.
>>720722653No.
>>720723791Fuck the pieces. I hope the pieces burn. I hope the pieces exude deadly radiation that gives everyone trying to pick them up cancer.Indie games are fine, AA games are mostly fine, but the AAA+ market needs to crash and burn, and tens of thousands of do-nothing incompetent faggots pawning their work off on pajeet coding mills need to become unemployed and homeless.
Would you idiots just shut up and go upgrade your grossly underpowered and outdated 5090s
>>720722931He’s right but no one wants to admit it
>>720723514I miss those fun>I can watch Crysis on youtube at 60fps but I can't run Crysis at 60fps!threads
>>720723443The PR department knows it's paid advertisement. The question you should be asking is how clueless can Nvidia be to think this is working in their favor and not tardwrangle him immediately.
>>720723769what did the badass say about this article?
>>720722887My GOTY is Rift Wizard 2.
>>720723736https://x.com/DuvalMagic/status/821140723135352832>tweet still uplmfao
>>720722653In a vacuum what he said is 100% correct and retards are afraid of accepting the truth.However he said this in the context of a last gen looking game that somehow runs worse than some path traced titles.So both things are true. PC niggers are retards who don't understand DLSS is strictly superior to native and the way forward. But it is true that Borderlands 4 is an unoptimized piece of garbage. The point of DLSS was always to enable 4K image quality on path traced scenes that cannot be rendered at adequate framerates at that res. The point of framegen was never to be a crutch for reaching 60 fps, it was meant to take a playable baseline framerate and turn it into 120 or 240 fps for high refresh rate displays. The gist is nvidia (and amd) and new tech GOOD, shitty game devs BAD
Notice how all the people attacking Randy and borderlands are incels and transphobic fascist types
>>720722887>FOMO game is the best game of the yearThe industry really is dying isn't it. When's the next E.T?
>>720722931I mean, on paper there is literally nothing wrong with what he's saying. It's all correct.However, his words become hollow when you compare BL3 to BL4 and realize the games look exactly identical but one has 3x the requirements of the other. They didn't make a "premium game". They made a game and cheaped out on the optimization costs hoping the customer takes it on the chin. That's the problem he's obscuring.
>>720724074It's not strictly superior, it's got input delay and various graphical anomalies
>>720724074That actually just means he’s wrong.
>>720722931Sega needs to hire this man for Phantasy Star
>>720722931>Borderlands is a premium game made for premium gamersWell, I hope he enjoys the tiny minority of premium gamers buying his game, because I sure won't. Retards like him really need a tardwrangler so they don't go around running their mouth on social media like this, this is a PR disaster in the making.
>>720723312>had a little girl give him a handyOiii vey!! shut this goy doowwwn before he keeps spilling things!!
>>720724253No, you don’t understand! I just have to show these chuds the errors of their ways and then they’ll be on my side!!!!
>>720722762He's like DSP. 0 int 10 luck.
>>7207235141. You literally could run Crisis at 60 FPS 1920×1200 on a 8800gts. You could run it at 1024x768 on a 8600gts. 2. Crysis looks really good, is technically impressive, and runs better than Bl4 while looking better.3. You can't get 60 fps on a 5090. The game is designed around AI hallucinations4. The game is so badly optimized that you can actually run TWELVE INSTANCES OF CRYSIS at 60 fps on hardware that can't get 60 fps on.Do you seriously think your game is 12 times better than Crysis?
I hate this gay world
>>720724350Wooooow
>make the same game 4th time>there are no major visual upgrades>runs worse
>>720722931Except for the premium bit, he's absolutely right. I'm tired of pajeets and chinks with 1060s review bombing every fucking new game on steam. Can't even differentiate games with actual shit optimization from normal games because of them
>>720722653>tested on a literal batcave and NASA PC>is still slow as fuck and mediocre as possible>>720723000who gives the last call now is embracer, and things aren't looking good after the movie bombed and this game too
>>720724481UE5 games run like shit even on the best gaming GPU you can buy on the market right now
Sure. I just won't buy it.
>>720722653>Randy Pitchfork
>>720724253>Well, I hope he enjoys the tiny minority of premium gamers buying his gameTheres like 20k steam reviews for this piece of shit, so this shit still sold a crapload, although yeah i believe BL2 probably sold like 10x more I still cant believe BL4 is probably gonna hit a million sales soon or already did. Fucking sheep faggot consoooomers
>>720724481It has been a running theme during this whole year that UE5 games are unoptimized as fuck and require specs higher than they should because companies would rather not optimize their games and force people into upgrading to play something that looks the same or even worse than a game from 5 years ago.I wish I had the plastic Master Chief pic also made in UE5. That piece of shit engine has been nothing but a mistake.
Works on my machine, seems like a skill issue
>>720724218You're confusing DLSS with frame gen.DLSS is just upscaling tech that's better than other tech.Frame gen is fake frames that don't actually improve performance, just the perceived smoothness of the output image.Both have become crutches however, to the point where people are using DLSS to upscale from 360p to 1080p to get playable framerates.This is just a byproduct of the enjeetification of gaming.
>>720723514Yeah but retard bro, Crysis did't look like CS 1.6, while Memelands 4 looks on par with Crysis 3.
>>720722653It's strange people need to be told this nowadays. UE5 aside, who keeps their toaster status willingly?=
>>720722653>If you read this thing on the internet >Believe me instead>I'd never steer you wrong
>>720724567Then code your own engine that competes with UE5 faggot, I’m sick of all you people coming here with 0 solutions. UE5 is a professional engine and allows for extremely high levels of productivity, letting you see near photorealistic graphics for very little work required. If you can come up with a superior engine, by all means show us… oh what’s that, you can’t? You want to encourage further crunch culture by forcing devs to make their own engine or use less productive engines than UE5? Well fuck you cunt, you’re fine with devs being worked far harder than they are now if it means you get a couple extra FPS?
>>720724857Go fuck yourself Tim
>>720722931the great irony here is that you could make any game you want on four year old phone hardware.but you gotta chase retarded nu-tech faggotry.
>>720722653>>720722931Imagine even CARING what this faggot ass 55 year old retard has to say.
>>720722653the last game which looked and played "next gen" was Red Dead 2 and they needed to slave people away with a custom engine. Why should I pay for compagnies being lazy niggers and relying on a faulty UE5
>>720724481Chinks are the great equalizer and provide an invaluable service in offsetting amerinigger golem "reviews".
>>720724857FOX engine exists and shits all over UE5.
>>720724253>Well, I hope he enjoys the tiny minority of premium gamers buying his gameAnon, I have bad news.The vast majority of PCfags these days are giant shiteaters, just like their console counterparts.
>>720724971>Red Dead 2that game looks so good and it runs on my 1050 ti lol.
>>720724857>high levels of productivity, letting you see near photorealistic graphics for very little work required>very little work required......yeah, we noticed. Thanks for confirming that for us faggot
>>720723000Who keeps buying Randy's games and why?
Doesn't this game run on a Switch 2?
>>720723514>Zoomer frogposter is a retardCrysis problem was CPU side retard, SINGLE THREAD CPU side because devs at that time thought that single thread CPU speeds would increase, not go the way of multicore.
>>720724801>while Memelands 4 looks on par with Crysis 3.Honestly, even that might be a bit too generous.Maybe if we're talking about the PS360 versions of Crysis 3.
>>720723039No hardware in existence can run it at 4k yet.
>>720724989FOX engine only has to render vast empty plains of nothingness
>>720724717>>720725013You know what? Yeah, whatever, whatever! The gaming industry deserves to be in the shithole they all dug themselves into.
>>720722783I might spend 600 on a 5070 and use it on an am4 without a BIS cpu, but that's about it.
>>720724350kek true, he even looks like dsp in some of the old gearbox ads
>>720725217>BIS cpu
>>720725109Normals
>>720724857What's wrong sweaty, outright telling your public to waste hundreds of watts and thousands of dollars explicitly so you don't have to do your job didn't go as planned? Need a hug?
>>720725013grim
>>720722653DLSS is the worst thing to happen to PC gaming. It allows corporations to completely neglect opitmization. Pajeets would be unable to make games if DLSS didn't exist.
>>720725292How does one waste watts
>>720723432>and make your game look like utter garbage from the ps3 era lolThe game looks like that regardless of settings desu fambalam
>>720724897>>720724989>>720725102>>720725292>devs use old engines and old methods of optimizing>FUCK YOU WHY IS IT TAKING SO FUCKING LONG FOR YOU TO MAKE THE GAME EAT SHIT FUCK YOUUUUUUU>dev uses UE5 to get the game in your hands more quickly>FUCK YOU WHY DO I FUCKING HAVE TO USE DLSS AND FRAME GEN I FUCKING HATE YOU YOU PIECE OF SHIT
>>720722931Based Fuck poor 3rdworlder Gaming is a rich man's toy
>>720722931christ, the dude is gaslighting like crazy/v/ will eat this shit up because they love this cringy ass series
>>720725410hope he reads this bro
>>720725438I don't get why /v/ likes Borderlands when it's basically Leddit: The Series
>>720725353Stronger components require higher energy consumption. Timmy is asking people not only to spend over a grand for the newest overpriced GPU, but also to increase their electricity bill to play his unoptimized piece of shit game that looks virtually the same as the previous one released 6 years ago.
>>720724857>you’re fine with devs being worked far harder than they are now if it means you get a couple extra FPS?Not a couple, I want 60 FPS 1% lows native on 1440p if I'm running a 5090. That is your target. Stop having Rajeesh, and Slagathor code your game.Here is my solution. Games used to give a game a pass through to see if it runs. You will start doing this again with the white people (not severely mentally ill) that you hired. If you are unable to hit this benchmark, you will go into the scene, and check if you're using a chair model with 9k Triangles, you go to that guys office, and give him shit. Something to the effect of "Bob are we expecting people to run the game on a fucking Nasa computer? We fired Rajeesh for trying to scan his coffee mug, do you want to be next?"
>>720722887I have 250+ hours in Erenshor. This bizarro newfag roleplay of only AAA games existing sure is bizarre!
>>720722653Nobody would've complained about DLSS if it would've been used properly. I.e. to bring the game from 1080p / 1440p to 4k with minimal performance loss.But when incompetent devs just use 540p or somesuch and upscale it to 1080p via DLSS that's a pure retardation.
god fucking damn it what the fuck is going on with UE5? valorant and fortnite can pull off crazy perf so there isn't any excuse? has any indie fps dev managed to tame this beast of an engine or you just gotta throw money at the problem?
>>720725410>massive replies>cap locksHey faggit, watch that blood pressure, sounds like you're close to popping a vein or two.Also didnt bother reading what you even wrote lol
>>720725410>dev uses UE5 to get the game in your hands more quicklygames take longer to come out now then they did like 10-15 years ago.
>>720722653i wont buy randys games. simple as
>Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers.
>gearbox shills are here
>>720724771DLSS includes frame gen because Nvidia has the longstanding habit to call their tech in the most confusing way in order to trick the goys into buying it, the same way you've got raytracing and path tracing both called "Raytracing RTX XPerience" or whatever nowadays, path tracing being Raytracing RTX XPerience Ultra 3.0 (not to be confused with RTX Xperience Ultra 2.0 which is raytracing)So you've got DLSS 2.0 and DLSS 3.0 Ultra+, one of which means frame genit's confusing, that's the point
>>720722653How about optimisation, instead of being a lazy faggot who is basing everything on DLSS and frame-gen.
It doesn't matter, average faggot will just turn frame gen on to go from 42 fps to 77 and say "it runs and looks great, I don't notice any negatives" people are happy to eat shit and the devs/shareholders all know it
>>720725410Dev cycles didn't get faster, not to mention your suffering is completely warranted in the first place and I'd pay extra to shorten your lifespan if given the option.
i have a 5090 and borderlands 4 runs far below the framerate i consider acceptable for an fps. i wouldn't pay $2 for it, let alond $80. actually, i won't even pirate it. borderlands 2 is a much better experience.
>And for my next trick, your frames will suddenly disappear
>>720725543>18,854 triangles for something as simple as a coffee mugHaven't coffee mugs been in gaming for a while now??? We're there significantly less demanding assest they could have used or made???
>>720725410THE FATTY IS LOSING HIMSELF!
>>720722653> waaagh its GAMERS fault that my game is un-optimised DEI SLOP!fuckoff and kys faggots, i want game devs to lose their jobs and to be paid less.
>>720725194If the battle royale craze weren't already a good wake-up call
>>720724857I will beI wrote a paper this year (alongside others) detailing how we are pioneering the optimization of object scanning because all these trashy developer niggers and jeets cannot be trusted to scan shit in and optimize on their own so someone needs to make this shit better, it clearly has to be me so I have done it.I can't get funding to write a whole engine but damn if I had to go back in academia to get this research done and pushed out I am sure I can find a way to get an engine off the ground.
>>720725597UE5 sucks so much ass that devs are going back to UE4. If they really want UE5 you can backport the features to UE4 like how Wuthering Waves has lumen for a UE4 game.
>>720725817>pic
>>720725543BASED anon spitting facts. Fuck that faggot you replied to
>>720722653If your game doesn't support older hardware, you'll pay the price with lower sales. Just another reason triple A is dying. Good riddance.
>>720725410>>FUCK YOU WHY IS IT TAKING SO FUCKING LONG FOR YOU TO MAKE THE GAMEAnon, this game took 6 years to make.That's longer than the time frame between GTA V and RDR2.That's longer than the timeframe between The Division and The Division 2.That's longer than the timeframe of the entire nu-Womb Raider trilogy.That's longer than the timeframe of the entire nu-Hitman trilogy.That's longer than the timeframe between Battlefield 4 and Battlefield V (including 1 and Hardline, which released between those two games)That's longer than the timeframe between Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal.That's longer than the timeframe between Watch_Dogs 2 and Watch_Dogs Legion.That's longer than the timeframe between Destiny and Destiny 2.That's longer than the timeframe between the original Prey 2 teaser trailer and the actual release of Prey 2017.
>>7207260096 years to make a game that they have already made 3 times before
Let's FUCKING go where are my PREMIUM gamers at!!!!
>>720725483A lot of modern /v/irgins are just redditors who don't want to get banned from reddit for saying nigger.
>>720722653DLSS isn't a bad experience. It's that a game shouldn't have to rely on it to be playable. How hard is that to understand.
>>720725410skyrim took 3 years for a team of 80 people (most of them being secondary staff)
>>720726068Now THIS is a premium post! All these broke boys complaining are missing out on the most BADASS game of the year, I'm having a BLAST personally.
>>720722931/ourguy/ randy being based once again
>>720722653I haven't bought anything Randy Pitchford has laid his greasy little mitts on since Aliens: Colonial Marines and I wont be changing that for a Borderlands rerun. I'll wait until they crack it in a year or so and pirate it, it'll probably be patched to run 5% better at that point anyway.
>>720726009Games are taking longer to make, run worse then ever and look like blurry shit. what a wonderful time for video games.
>>720725753Nice browser tab you got there.More importantly, why the FUCK would you be gaymin' at 1080p 540hz? both of those are completely absurd for a 5090
>>720726071So... you, then.
>>720725753heh you got one where is running like naruto?
>>720726247I have never used reddit, I even avoid google because they fill their search results with AIshit pulled from fucking reddit posts.
>>720726151There should be like a PREMIUM board for PREMIUM 4chan posters where they can make PREMIUM threads imo!
>>720726084Yeah and if you ever ready any Bethesda dev team interviews you would know they crunched an insane amount like 80+’hours a week
>>720724481chinks are based. there is no reason why any game that looks worse than arkham knight shouldn't run well on a 1060
>>720726423This BL4 team probably also crunched, it was just all done by jeets.
Does /v/ understand how easy it is to use an outsourcing contractor to get your project done on time? That's all that matters. They will cut corners. They will produce awful fucking messes your on-shore team will have to fix over AND OVER AND OVER but it DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE>it's still on time>it's still half the cost despite having a team 4 times the size of an on-shore crew>it WILL come in under budget because if it happens to come close to the budget, the offshore contractor's subcontractors will simply eat the cost because if they don't they'll get fired and end up in literal dirt tier poverty>if it's somehow too fucked they'll just blame the onshore team for "not cooperating" and "not training well enough"this is happening in EVERY SINGLE INDUSTRY. BANKING, ENTERTAINMENT, CYBERSECURITY, ADVERTISING, RETAIL. We're fucked
>>720722653He's correct. If you can't set up your PCs properly, buy a console instead and get used to 10 to 30fps for every game.
I have a 5090, fucking WHAT do I upgrade to?
>>720726242>More importantly, why the FUCK would you be gaymin' at 1080p 540hz? both of those are completely absurd for a 50901. i like competitive FPS2. i occasionally play old singleplayer fps like eg. Half Life 1 supersampled with DSR from 8k down to 1080p. the 5090 will comfortably do this at 1000+ fps which is nice. it also supports DSR on DSC monitors unlike earlier graphics generations3. AI art & training diffusion models, which the 5090 is the best at unless you want to drop $6000 on a card
>>720722931>premium game for premium gamersWe really need to crash this shitty fucking industry once or twice to teach these niggers their lesson.
>>720726550CERN's Large Hadron Collider
>>720724857>t. total goyslopconsooooomerSubhuman, you need to get the fuck out of here.
>>720726423welcome to how game development works. they are crunching for these UE5 monstrosities too, it's just that they are all incompetent DEI hires. if you saw inside a modern videogame company you would be sickened by the proportion of employees who lack basic qualifications and are only there because they are brown, female, or both.
>>720723000A CEO's job is to maximize value for the shareholders, and that is the only criterium of relevance to them.And since the stock market operates independently from the actual economy or how much a company is ACTUALLY worth (see e.g. all the market cap shittery), it really doesn't matter what happens in the company, as long as shareholders can be bullshitted into compliance.
>>720722931this is actually a reasonable take
I would if component prices weren't so inflated. I don't think $3000 without peripherals is reasonable.
>>720726637How is that going to calculate my graphics
>>720722653the real question is who the fuck is still buying Borderlands?
>>720726718by spinning really hard
>>720726693How could you say such anti semitic things
>>720722653Nigger faggot randy
>>720726775
>>720722653Lmao eat my balls, Pitchford, I don't give a shit that you get kickbacks for jumping on the nvidia upgrade bandwagon.It's hilarious that devs are crying about the market not upgrading instead of just building their games to the specs the market has. Capcom made that same mistake three times in a row.The attempt to shift from the PS4 gen failed. The audience didn't upgrade and aren't going to. People don't care about 4k or ray tracing and see no need for a PS5 or 800 dollar video card.
>>720722931What a nigger
>>720726875>that freefall
>CrysisActual leap, mind you that shit like 64bit was a buggy mess and that half of gaymers worldwide were still on 32bit>Shitlands 4Samey shit since 2. Learn how to optimize or fuck off
>>720726875exactly my pointhow are there even that many?
>>720726961That's called a Monday
>>720726637lol'd>>720726807LMAO'd . You funny bastard
>>720726875normalfag holocaust when
>>720726961who the fuck caresNOREFUNDS(after 2h)
>>720723432Doesn't hardware raytracing actually reduce FPS?
>>720722783Upgrade to what? There is not a single GPU on the market that can hit native 60fps at native 1080p.
>>720726775People with friends
>>720723246It’s not entirely their faultUE5 is extremely terrible for almost all hardware
>CUNT CEO>Funko pop owner humor>Graphics that somehow haven't really changed since borderlands 2 (not necessarily a bad thing in its own right)>outlandish amounts of reddit cringe spewing out of every one of the games orifices constantly>huge price tagHow the fuck is borderlands still popular? Even kingdom hearts doesn't make me cringe as much as even 2 minutes of borderlands dialogue.
>>720727105divide the total player count by about 3. That's the amount of people who REALLY give a shit about this game at any given time, but drag their friends into buying it with them. All you need to know
>>720726580>540hz>1000hzAre you meme'ing or delusional or what?? theres like no visual difference in 99% of games over 144hz. I wanna have whatever you're smoking, you can keep your 5090 too. Deal?
>>720727024go back in time to 2006 and make sure that faceberg and iphone are never released.
>>720722931>premium game for premium gamersthis is a joke or edited image right, RIGHT?
you may hate him(justified) you may dislike his game(understandable) but he is rightit is a premium game because of both it's price and the fact only have hardware to play it as intended
>>720722931HOLY FUCKING KINO
>>720722931This guy is right except his game is Borderlands 4 and not GTA6 or something technically impressive as that. The benefit to BL artstyle is that it doesn’t need that much to look good. Red Dead 2 ran on a PS4, BL4 is just unoptimized
>>720727217what really matters are anti-blur technologies like strobing, etc. But you absolutely can notice higher framerates. It's just diminishing returns on how much benefit you get compared to the jumps from 24 to 60 to 120/144.
>>720727064DLSS is better than native.
>>720727217>theres like no visual difference in 99% of games over 144hzyou have never seen a higher refresh rate. it's a bit like a person who has never seen a vagina opining about them.research by lighting companies shows human can discriminate switching rates for fluorescent light ballasts up toward ~30,000hz
>>720727217tard who plays at 60hz spotted
>>720722931Based take from him
>>720727105Complete coverage of a niche. There is no other looter shooter with light RPG elements and fun abilities like this. Closest you can get is roguelites. I don't understand why nobody else tries but that's the way it is>>720727045Common misconception. 2h playtime is the limit for automatic refunds. If you played 3h and request a refund, they still give it to you if you aren't a serial abuser I don't understand how corporate shills managed to trick all users into not even trying to refund if a patch breaks a game and stuff like that
>>720727189Yep, one of my shiteater friends tried to drag me and my brother into this shit and we said lolno.Every friend group has that one person (usually a zoomer) who obsesses over every dogshit game just because it has co-op, and that person ALWAYS has fucking awful taste in everything and spends all their money on pointless shit while complaining about how they live paycheck to paycheck.
>>720727217There is motion clarity and lower input lag
>>720723264all these words but the game still runs like shit and is visually unimpressive
>>720727313native doesnt blur everything when you move
>>720724074>DLSS is strictly superior to native and the way forwardGuess I'll just turn 360 degrees and walk away then.
>>720727384Naaah, 60hz to 120/144hz is quite noticeable. Higher is just meme tiers. Our eyes and vision do NOT see in super slow motion either like your retarded pic, spare me the nonsense.
>>720722931It still run like shit with minimum specs
>>720722931HOLY FUCKING BASED!
Randy is rightThink about it logically4chan is full of ESL third world poorfags and browns but rich First World Countries have billions of people. Billion of 5090s and top tier hardware. There is no reason to even optimize games.The main target audience for premium games are those billions First World Citizens. It's potentially billions of sales. You get it? If anything games and GPUs should cost even more to show off First World Wealth and Glory to poors.It's already top seller and everyone on 4chan from US and EU are playing it right now.
>>720727747so true anon, and vaginas breathe fire because you have never seen one of those either
>>720727707>>720727726It will improve
>>720724510Take-Two acquired gearbox last year and their CEO was just as delusional about the movie as Randy was.
>>720727845lol this entire Engrish post is a mess
>>720727845
>>720727932That's why I'm not play Borderlands 4I'm too poor good sir.
>>720722931>premium game made for premium gamers
>>720724857almost as if the industry should have known when to quit from a graphical fidelity standpoint (7th gen at the latest)
Randy and his shills keep obscuring the fact that the game has no business having such high requirements while looking like BL3.
>>720722653bro seriously thinks my 5090 is getting tainted by bordershit
>>720723246Stop outsourcing to H1B subhuman invalids in third world countries.Stop being so dependant on shitty middleware like Unreal Engine and resolution scalers.
>>720728061t. can't afford premium gamesIphone isn't so different from android yet it costs x10 time more. It's a premium product for first world citizens not dirty frogs.
>>720722653>peaks at 300k on steamchartsWhile retards keep giving shit devs money, they will continue to ruin the industry.
>>720722653Is anyone working on a crack for this game, or does this shit have denuvo?I'm not paying 80 euros to play this shit only to discover my 7900xtx doesn't work well with it at 4k.
Actually Based.DLSS is king sorry AMDchuds..
>>720728061>an actual BL fan
>>720728370>>an actual BL fanThere are tons of those on /v/
>>720724510>who gives the last call now is embracerCheck your facts. Take 2 bought Gearbox from Embracer a year and a half ago.
>>720728451>tfw smelly menhera /v/irgin BL fan gf never ever
>>720722931He's right. A 3060 (the absolute bottom tier any gamer should have in current year) runs at 30 FPS @1080p. That's plenty fine.
>>720724481>white people will consoom whatever unoptimized trash greedy corpos serve themIs not the own against brown people you think it is
isn't borderlands 4 still cel shaded? you know, the art style that looks good on a fucking dreamcast?
so done with these fucking driver issues on my 5070 ti. i was in the middle of typing up a shitpost dunking on the Borderlandrones ITT when my screen went black and I had to turn my whole pc off. im rmaing and switching to 9070 xt fuck it idc anymore.
>>720728176>Stop outsourcing to H1B subhuman invalids in third world countries.Anon...you're missing the point. Everything outsourced in third world countries was APPROVED by overlords.If I, concept artist/3dman/monkey, do anything bad I will be forced to re-make it again. And again. And again. Until outsourcing company fires me because they don't want to be blacklisted from industry.Every garbage you see in video games was approved by higher ups. The reason why it's so bad because they want to make big profit with minimum investment. After all gamers will eat any shit.Games are being outsourced for millennium. From Software for example always use service of the same 3D/concept art company and they deliver same high quality every time.Do not insult saars. The industry is rotten from the head.
>>720727707native is TAA now so it does
>>720722653How did this franchise ever get so big? I sort of liked the first one but by the first dlc I was already extremely bored of the concept.
>>720728707Install CachyOS
>>720722931Can any devs enlighten me on how hard it is to make a game have "potato settings" for potato gamersLike how much of a time/effort sink is itAnd for that matter downporting?My game runs acceptably but as someone who only upgraded recently for other reasons, I still feel like games have been more accomodating before
>>720722931>Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers.Fucking hell
>>720728707i had gnarly black screen issues on my 5090 till 2 driver updates agoalso updating to 24h2 fixed a lot of them before that
>>720728118>5090Your card is literally made to run on DLSS quality mode, you paid for it and you didn't know?? new cards aren't built for raw power anymore
>>720724107>FOMO gamethe fuck is that even supposed to mean? do you just generate those posts with AI at random or something?
>>720722931PCgamers are all poorfags to begin with. Upgrade or die, joao.
>>720724567No. Devs are actually that lazy and stupid. UE5 has an optimization problem, but it's nowhere near what modern UE5 titles would lead you to believe.Pic related is showing 6.9M tris being drawn at 82FPS in UE5 on a GTX 1070, in a dev build of the game which bloats the RHIT with a bunch of stat capture hooks. There are engine-level optimization issues here but "needing DLSS on a 5090 to hit 60 FPS" is not an acceptable state for a cel shaded game made in UE5 to be in.
>>720729057I think he confused fomo with fotmAndi think silksong is flavor of the month for sure
>>720722931if this was some sort of crysis-like situation he'd have a point, but the game barely looks and plays like a minor upgrade over past entries
I have a 2080, do I need to upgrade?
>>720724056My fucking nigger
>>720727064why lie? it exceeds 60fps on 1080p and only has issues 2k and above.
>>720722762He obv. has ties to some powerful pedos.
>>720728995Isn't frame generation more than raw power?>Oh I'm not getting enough natty frames>Gonna expend even more power to simulate muh framesIts just that devs don't know to balance cutting edge tech with performanceI would be happy with games looking 40% worse if it meant they could run 20% smoother, and cooler for that matter
>>720724857>hire jeets>blow tons of money on useless dei consultants>have offices in the most expensive parts of the world>give millionaire paychecks to ceos and execs who only hinder development>cut every corner imaginable of actual gamedev>expects the customers to pay for itHow about you kill yourself?
>>720722931Well does the game look better, or have better physics simlation than games from 5-10 years ago had?At least tell me it has some extremely hardware intensive cutting edge AI behaviours or dynamic map changes.
>>720729431it's just fancy interpolation. It's shit.
>>720729389The cutscenes run inexplicably badly on all systems though
>>720722653Give me $5k then
>>720729482Well that's what I was thinkingIs expending more power just for apparently good, effectively worse performance
>>720723264He can't honestly be saying this when shit like battlefield 6 can run on a shitbox pc and still look miles better than this game right?
>>720727313>TAA>nativelooooooooooooooooooooooool
>>720729493If by running badly you mean capped at 30.
>>720726690No, it isn't. A game that requires DLSS and frame gen to run at 1080p on a 5090 is malware, not a premium game. It is also graphically not superior to borderlands 3, a game that's FAR less demanding.
>>720729551seeing it in action feels basically like I'm looking at one of those "action" motion processing settings on a television. It's uncanny and weird. It comes down to making Tensor cores look like a good investment to the public since that's what they really want to focus on. God I fucking hate "AI" at least in its current use cases.
>>720722931peak ceo moment
>>720723514Crysis was absolutely cutting edge at the time. Had fantastic graphics, huge maps, massive amounts of interactable objects, and properly simulated physics. ...and despite it all it was absolutely infamous for it's extreme hardware requirements.If whatever new poorly optimized AAA slop releasing today was as cutting edge as it had been at the time, people wouldn't complain nearly as much.
>>720729692Choppy, tearing, micro pausesWhatever you name it
>>720722931How do i become a premium gamer?
>>720729741>Seeing it in actionHaving played a bit here and there I'm just not a fan of the artificial input lagI don't care if you can compensate for it, that doesn't mean it isn't there
>>720722931>Borderlands 4 is a premium game made for premium gamers
Roblox
>>720729845The cutscenes are running as optimally as they can with no wasted cycles. There's a lot going under the hood and you're going to have to accept that they are a premium experience for premium viewers. Please click this guide on how to increase the cutscenes frame rates by using lossless scaling over the game.
>>720722653Anyone tried playing it on an Xbox Series S? How unplayable is the framerate on it?
>>720729057fear of missing out
The customer service tickets say otherwise. Randy owns his trolls sad lives.
>how it feels to be a PREMIUM GAMER
>>720730153Why is he damage controlling so hard then?
>>720729926I have a lot of friends who use soundbars as their TV speakers. Nearly all of them have a noticeable desync from what's on the screen. The majority of people will not notice any input lag because they just fucking can't or don't care. This is the case with a lot of hobbies. People don't care about the average automatic's CVT having shitty responses because it still goes fast and Manual is too hard to learn. But there are still plenty of options for people who want to drive a manual. Gaming? Not so much. There's only 2 (three if you really count intel) GPU manufacturers operating off of a single wafer manufacturer solely due to insanely difficult to navigate IP licenses. Things will continue to get worse
>>720730153>0.04% are performance relatedLolActual sociopath, how can people lie like this...
>>720729972That's so grimAt least Capcom games have always run as poorly in and out of cutscenes
>>720725410>sells the same game 4 times>nooo think of the heckin devsnah fuck you
>>720722887Felt like I was playing hollow knight again and dropped it. People basedjacking it must have never played platformers before
>>720730153Yeah, because nobody is putting in CS tickets for "shit optimization" they're refunding the game or just not buying it in the first place because of it's reputation. Nobody who understands the game industry well enough to call out the dogshit optimization on display is stupid enough to think sending a helpdesk ticket is going to get the issue fixed.
>>720722931>>720722762Why can't Bobandy just shut the fuck up?Why will nobody tell him to shut the fuck up?Do they not have any kind of PR at the company?Everytime there's a controversy about this franchise it's a result of this autistic retard opening his mouth.
>>720730153This guy behaves like Musk. He's the CEO of a company and antagonizes people all the time, worse, his own customers. What the fuck happened to professionalism?
>>720730152>fear of missing out game
>>720722653I wish Borderlands was actually celshaded and not hyper realistic jeetcoded polygons with a comic book filter. A game this cartoony looking shouldn't run this poorly.Posted on my 3060ti
>>720730246Because negative controversy is still eyes on Borderlands 4, and there is a group of people out there who will buy a copy of the game just to spite chuds.He is also establishing a trail, so when the game fails he can say "see, its the chuds" and if it does well he can say "take that chuds"if you pay him no mind, dont comment etc he will go away like Herpes, but he will always come back.
>>720730153>>720730460Yeah, the thing with complaints similar to how most people don't leave a review on places like Steam. On Steam, you could approximately say that about 10% of players leave a review on any given game, if even that. I'd wager that any support tickets are lower than that, depending on how many hoops one must jump through to file one.
>>720727831I hate this guy because it's clear he doesn't even play video games and youtube keeps forcing him on the algorithm. Fucking pasty ass reddit motherfucker.
>>720722653>spend money to spend more money on stuttering unoptimized brandnew dogshit "video games"Nah.
>>720730295How many gamers actually contact customer support?
>>720722931You think I got three grands to waste on your garbage ass game?
>>720730714From my experience, I'd say less than maybe couple to few percent.
back then>white men making games using dark magic>all time classics fitting on a disc or cartridge>great visuals and tight gameplaynow>all the white men are laid off>outsource everything to india, much cheaper>don't worry about disc or cartridge, just make the game as big as you want>optimization? don't worry, we got upscaling now
>>720730650yes? You build a hype around mediocre game that isn't even that good and that then manifests as FOMO where people buy, eat shit, and retoot the words of god
>>720730753Wouldn't even matter if you did, you literally can't buy hardware strong enough to run this game well.
Do I need to upgrade bros?
>>720730790>not time-gated>fear of missing outthat's not how it works anon
>>720730858FOMO can also be used for non time gated things.
>>720725410Late is just for a little while. Suck is forever.
>>720730919You cannot fear missing out on something you can't miss out on.Come the fuck on anon.
>>720722653>"I love having to play at 1440p despite having infinite money!"Copius Maximus over here
>>720731002You fear missing out on the hype, you need to play and spam your social media before people move on the next game
>>720730153What a retarded take. No one uses a ticketing system to try and figure out how to make their game perform better.They use online forms, then they give up and return the game, or don't buy it in the first place because they hear it runs like ass.
>he is not premium gaymerthe absolute sate of (You)
Let's try to make "a premium game for premium gamers" last.
>>720722653>you shouldn't take advice from things you see and hear on the internet>unless I'm saying it in which case you should listen and accept the advice as gospelwhy can't this bloated corpse fuck off and die from an overdose already?
>>720722653DLSS is bad because the entire point of higher framerates is to make the program more consistently responsive; it's the entire reason people say that lower framerates are more acceptable on genres with less action (i.e. JRPGs, Strategy games). DLSS (or any other framegen software, for that matter) does absolutely nothing to make the program more responsive, it just has you GPU making up smeary bullshit so you don't feel as though you've wasted hundreds on your fancy 120Hz monitor.If your action game cannot reliably achieve 60FPS at the lowest settings even with hardware from 10+ years ago, then you had better either have some kind of gameplay innovation that justifies the poor performance or you have failed as a game developer. Borderlands 4 does absolutely nothing more Hardware-intensive with its gameplay than Borderlands fucking 2 in 2009; it's the same shit it's always been but on a bigger map. There are absolutely no gameplay changes which justify the horrendous performance of BL4, which means Gearbox has failed as a developer.>BUT MUH OPEN WORLDIf Open Worlds as a concept caused performance this bad then like half of the AAA gaming landscape for the past 16 fucking years should have been impossible to run.
>>720730608as it turns out, professionalism only ever mattered for appearances to other rich people. When other rich people start to not give a shit, others will follow suit.Also, asshole CEOs have existed since forever but you had to read a newspaper or some shit to hear about their shenanigans instead of just logging into twitter and reading it directly from the inside of their rectum.
>I'm not premium gamer Бpaтья...
just got a free 1070. will be cleaning, replacing the thermal paste and going back to linux as modern gaming is dead and windows is worse than ever.
>>720730753>saving thumbnails
>>720728920Settings don't matter for 99.9% of games out there because CPUs haven't improved nearly as much as we were hoping them to beall these settings like DLSS, upscaling, dynamic culling, texture resolution that shit does literally nothing for performance if your system is CPU bound. turning that shit down will just make your GPU have less work to do while the CPU continues to struggle with the things settings don't affect like running the game code or calculating the physics.there are two solutions to this problem: efficient multithreaded code or a good engine. the first is unfeasible because multithreading is extremely fucking difficult. like so difficult that there's probably only a handful of people on the planet who understand it well and could code it so it's not all retarded. the 2nd solution isn't up to the devs to fix it's up to epic so you can't blame them there.this is the end result of GPUs growing 100x in strength in 2 decades and CPUs only 10x relatively. from a customer's point of view the solution is buying as powerful of a single-threaded CPU as you can find because you can't rely on your GPU carrying you anymore. having a strong CPU is more important than ever before and I tell this to every retard on /g/ who posts his plans to spend $2k on a gpu and $300 on a cpu
>>720722783>want to upgrade my cpu>will have to upgrade my mobo>which means upgrading ram>at which point I'll have outpaced my GPUit's all so tiresome. the only thing I wouldn't have to replace is my psu and I probably should anyway.
>>720725410You type like some waitstaff slave seething about not getting tips.I'm just going to refuse to play almost anything made after 2010, much like how I simply don't go places that will ask me for tips.You find that preferable?
>>720729912Open up your wallet sweaty
RANDY IS A FAGGOT
>>720722931I don't even need to read that to know it's a giant wall of cope and seethe. Games probably way underperforming
>>720722887>I get my game recommendations from X, formerly twitter
>>720723039Upgrade to RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell
>>720731304>owned a 1070 for a decade>died on me>shop for three months>buy another 1070Tamriel Rebuilt is pretty kino.
>>720731162It has the ability to be the next "sense of pride and accomplishment"
>>720722653Why do leftoids always resort to gas lightning when people talk about facts?
I hate randy but... Are there people who really refuse to use DLSS? Why?
>premium game
>>720731584see >>720731256
>>720722653>Just throw hardware at the problem
15 bucks is the most i'm willing to spend for a borderlands game
>>720731625>responsiveWho cares? Are you a slav who plays nothing but twitch CSGO or something? Who cares about responsiveness? As long as the game looks good and is generally not laggy who cares? Also DLSS has nothing to do with responsiveness, that's AI frame gen. Are you stupid? Are you dumb?
>>720722931>Borderlands 4 sells like crazy>Randy calls /v/ a bunch of poorfags if they can’t run itJesus how did Randy win so hard
>>720722783Why? Like actually why, for animating or modelling sure but modern AAA ensures that $2000 GPU will creak and groan even at minimum settings, there’s no reason to not get a reasonable GPU if you’re playing actually good games
>>720731461you should see the twitterhe replied to himself like 50 times
>>720722931I'm not a premium gamer?
>>720731346i did all of that while still keeping my 1060. the only game i play that could use an updated gpu is modded minecraft but im not paying $800 so i can increase my fucking render distance.
>>720731461The game is actually doing pretty well
>>720722653>randy niggerfordi don't care about that subhumans opinions
YandereDev should code for Borderlands 4 to save it
>>720731346I'm still sitting on my AM4 build because if I upgrade my GPU, then I need>a new main monitor to utilize it (roughly 500 to 1000$)>a new CPU to push frames (700 dollars for a 9950x3d)>new motherboard for the new CPU (300 to 400)>new ram for the new CPU (200$)>new powersupply because despite running a vega 64 New GPUs still need MOAR WATTS (300 dollars for a seasonic platinum 1200)Roughly 2300 for a top of the line upgrade without storage OR THE GPUI might as well just get a whole new fucking case, storage, everything and just find some way to shrink this build down once I upgrade. Oh fucking well.
>>720722931Randy is completely insane
>>720731584DLSS can only give you a better experience if your baseline perf is already good. Otherwise you'll just artifact like hell and there's unbearable input lag
>>720723057This game runs like shit on $5000 pcs
>>720722653Why, yes, I'll buy the latest turbo-backdoored crippleware that'll shakle me to the whim of globohomian mega corporations, because retard#626252647899684790096432534 has taken out a loan and has to pay interest on his interests' interest payments or signed a contract for kickbacks from some bankster pet or surrogate.
>>720731718>Who cares about responsiveness?Anyone actually playing the game.>As long as the game looks good and is generally not laggyThe only people who care about exclusively visuals are people who aren't playing the fucking game, because even if it "looks" smooth, you can still feel the unresponsiveness of a game running at subfar framerates, no matter how much bullshit your GPU spews out to try and disguise that fact.
>>720731797>>720731797Yeah I'm sure it is. That's how CEOs of a blockbuster release act
>>720723514Crysis looked was the best looking game when it came out and it took a long time for it to stop being that. BL4 could've released a decade ago and you wouldn't notice the difference
THE N IN NVIDIA STANDS FOR[Regigigas can't attack due to slow start!]
>>720722931>>720722653This guy is PR poison, literally has he ever said a single thing that has ever resulted in something positive?
>>720731024It's not even true. You can't play this piece of shit at 1440p max settings even with a 5090.
>>720731893No that’s how Randy acts but the steam numbers are not too bad
>>720731584I just won't have machine learning dream up pixels for me, sorry.
>>720728920It’s not hard at all it’s just easier (and cheaper) to not give a shit because the AAA industry knows people still buy their dogshit regardless.Could brick your PC and leak your bank info to pajeets, but as long as number go up they couldn’t care less
That's right faggots. I'm a PREMIUM GAMER. You're standard gamers. Kneel before me
>>720731991Hes reverse todd, he doesn't lie I guess.
>>720722653all these pc poors mad at randy
>>720732117He's lying out his ass because he's implying that BL4 does literally fucking anything to justify how bad it runs
>>720732117Todd has 99 charisma, a far more useful stat.
>>720730598>Shareholders maintain faith>Company isn't sunk yetThis is all in spite of what he does it's trueBut it does draw attention to him so maybe they figure it's a business strategy
ITT: poorfags seethe
>>720732080I’m a Standard Deluxe gamer though
>>720722653Why would I need to play modern games though? I have a lot of good old ones already that don't hog up space on my computer and don't preach at me all day.
>>720732135Wasteful spending of resources is not indicative of wealth, but generational debt (monetary, technological or otherwise).
>>720722931Thank god I renewed my Gamer Gold Pass so I'm still a Premium Gamer and can enjoy premium games like Borderlands 4
>>720732431oy gevalt
You dont need more than a 1440p, 16 ram, 8 vram and 6/12 Cores/Threads CPU to play all the good new/old gamesWhy i should play BL4 ?
>>720732368>deluxe>not super deluxethen you are missing out on sooo many season pass cosmetic skins that are totally worth that extra 49,99
>>720732314Pretty sure someone with a 5090 complaining the game runs like dogshit isn't a poorfag
>>720731345Thanks guyAnd again I would sacrifice 50% of the current bullshit we have if it meant we could go back to the PS3 era of graphics but instead have more fps as a baseline
>not buying 4 super deluxe copies
>>720722653The thing is I used to jump at upgrades because the change was substantial so the money felt invested not wasted. I haven’t felt that desire in a very long time. The new shaders aren’t meaningfully improving jack shit and in most cases you pay a major performance penalty even with new gear.Plus inflation and “supply chain” or whatever the excuse for corpo greed is today sees astronomical increases in cost vs 10 and 20 years ago, for upgrades that do orders of magnitude less in experience. If you can’t provide a “wow” experience why should I upgrade? Meanwhile other publishers put out games as fun or more fun that do not require cutting edge hardware to begin with. I need to pay 5k on a graphics card to play the latest AAA open world or fps shitter? Gee what a draw.
>>720732194Maybe he knows it can't be fixed or at least any time soon. Or he could just turn the rtx off idk.
-He says through a mouthful of piss.
>>720722653I have a 5090 and I can't play this shit on 1440p with at least 120 fps stable.
>>720722653Yeah this isnt rocket science
>be me, a premium gamer, with a 5090, a $3000 monitor, and a hot loving wife >going on a trip with my wife to enjoy caviar at a 5-star Michelin restaurant >a cheap gamer stops me in my tracks outside a restaurant and pulls out a knife>says I need to give him my 5090 so he can play Borderlands 4 >laugh and lean in until my nose is a milimeter from his face >whisper “Borderlands 4 is a premium game for premium gamers”>he starts sobbing uncontrollably and turns the knife on himself>Randy joins me and my wife for dinner, at the end he hands me a special “magic” USB drive with a piece of tape on it that says “PREMIUM GAMERS ONLY”
>>720722931and then everyone is wondering why the bing bing wahoo console wins despite its greedy practiceseverything else is self-sabotaging to the point of destruction
>>720722931Borderlands 1 required a modest PC of the time. The cel-shaded look was a way of getting good performance out of something visually acceptable that didn't require cutting edge hardware.It's weird they decided to keep the style and yet now require a super computer
>>720731813>series of if/else statements that apply DLSS to individual pixels
>>720731851>>720731256Why are people conflating DLSS with framegen? If you're just using DLSS short hand when referring to frame gen, that's confusing. Just say frame gen.
>>720722931Imagine blaming the people buying your product instead of just admitting that Unreal 5 is complete trash.
>>720722653Just ordered a new 1k€ PC with a 5060, Ryzen 5 and 16gb RAM and called it a day.
>>720728571What a grim timeline
>>720732667HAVE YOU TRIEDNOTBEINGPOOR???
>>720732015he never said he gets more than 20 fps. other than that 1440p is completely doable
>>720722653Nvidia broke their 50 series cards and their 40 series is only marginally better than a 30 series card.Intel broke their 14th and 13th gen cpus.AMD us well...AMD. They're really only popular because they're managing to not be as much as a fuckup as Nvidia or Intel at the moment, and historically they've made subpar drivers or cards.
>>720732998thats good enough for everything relevant anywaysjust make sure the guys pre building are local and not some weird chink off shoot you found on amazon
>>720722653He ain't wrong tho. MFs here expect to run the latest games with a Pentium II processor and 16mb RAM. It ain't happening, unc.
>>720722931Based take from Randy, and it shows all the seething proves that /v/ is a thirdworlder poorfag board lmao
>>720726582>We really need to crash this shitty fucking industry once or twice to teach these niggers their lesson.This industry deserves the slop it gets. All these consoomers happily pay for this shit, they keep buying the same unoptimized games over and over and no lessons learned.
>>720722762I think he's blackmailing a jew somewhere, He lost them millions with that retarded movie
>>720733375its blackmailing jews all the way down
>>720732998>5060
>>720722653As much as I dislike this faggot, he is not wrong.
>>720722783ive got9800x3d5090256 gb ramPCIE ssdand i cant have native 1440p 60 fps (my dsiplay is 240 hz)
>>720733571It's better than my 1660s that has been carrying me for the past few years, plus the warranty allows me to upgrade it if I so choose.
>"THIS GAME IS SHIT, /v/ SAID SO!">Meanwhile the game discussion threads are so calmlol, you people are such losers
>>720722653that's SO ridiculous.this industry tells us we're getting 4K 60fps, then says "Oh if you dont like DLSS (which is legit, just NOT 4K) then you never really wanted 4K to begin with. fuck RIGHT off. gamers, we unironically need to rise up and not buy hardware better than 2080S 5800x3D
>>720722783The disappointment when you still can't get decent performance out of any UE5 garbage will be immeasurable. Please post the details for my viewing pleasure.
>>720733793>no social media snips>no pepes or wojaksJust anons loving games, living in the moment...
>uh just buy more hardware every year okay>then just buy Game 4 when we remake it again and again Pass
>>720734049You're just a poorfag.
>>720722653I'll buy the game in a year when the game of the year edition is already out and its 20$ on sale.
If your game can't run natively at 1080p high settings at 120fps on a 600€ GPU and top of the line CPU without DLSS and looks only marginally better than a 10 years old Arkham Knight, I'm refunding. Simple as.
>>720734103>Shut up and buy thingsYoure probably Asian
>>720734231>He's poorer than the AsiansWay to out yourself as a nigger lmao
I wish there were more premium games made for us premium gamers
Randy does this game really require a modern GPU and processor?
>>720722653I want everything to crash and burn, I won't spend a cent until prices will be reasonable again
>>720734231>Shut up and buy thingsSeems to be the motto for /v/. No other board will get uppity at you for piracy.
>>720734367People get uppity because piratefags are annoying and most of them are thirdworlders.
>>720722931Why are rich people so disconnected from reality
>>720722783how can you even spend 5k9800x3d, 5090 and oled monitor setup is like 3-4k
>>720722653>>720722931Total fuarking BADASS
>>720722653>Literally Who: The Thread
>>720734353>I won't spend a cent Okay, Israeli.
>>720734307>JUST BUY THINGS OKAY DONT ASK QUESTIONS WHAT ARE YOU POORpeak goy
Isn't Borderlands cartoony and celshaded?
>>7207344741k difference is not a big deal in a first world country like Israel.
>>720734594No its mature and badass-shaded
>>720725410oh nononononononononononon melty incoming
>>720722653moar liek Randy BITCHford lmao
>>720722948Thisyou can't get fired if you're your own boss
Guess I'll have to check how the game plays myself.... when it's in a $10 bargain bin.
>>720734594It's got cartoon character design and outlines, but it's not celshaded.
DLSS and framegen are good features and any artifacting is not noticeable to ~90% of gamers. Even so, devs should do a better job of optimizing. Both are true.
Why does the game run so poorly? Please don't just answer "UE5", there are games that look and run better on that engine.
Randinator isn't entirely wrong, but I'd actually respect him if he just said what he wanted."You're fucking poor faggots. Not my problem your shitbox can't run it"
>>720734520the jew sells and the goy buys, you got it backwards
I own a 4090 and most certainly won't touch this dogshit with a ten foot pole. I will NOT use frame gen on a first person shooter, even solo. It feels like utter shit.
>>720734474What do you mean? Its actually cheaper?5K is my budget, I haven't really taken a look at the actual cost
>>720722931Yup. Poorfaggots and shitskins
>>720731721>Why? Like actually whyI still running a 1060GTX, idkI just want a top of line PC, I don't have a reason for it beyond that
>>720732971Because Nvidia itself calls framegen DLSS to muddy the waters and people are dumb.
>>720722653*upgrades my dragon dildo collection instead*sorry randyboi, it takes priority
>>720735012It's your imagination. Linus told you they were fake frames and you internalized it immediately
>>720722653>>720722931SHUT THE FUCK UP RANDY!
>>720734474>9800x3d, 5090 and oled monitor setup is like 3-4kA good OLED is like 1k. A 5090 is 2k but still sold out so be prepared to drop 3k. The other stuff is at least another 1.5k unless you want the shittiest MOBO with 16GB of RAM and half a TB in storage.
>>720734917The current running theory is that there's three main things doing it.>Lumen forcibly enabled>Nanite forcibly enabled>The entirety of the map you're in is loaded all at once instead of culling out sectors based on your general areaThe first two are the big problems, though.
>>720734474it's 2025, nigga.
>>720731885>NOOO IT HAS TO BE INSTANT REPONSIVENESS LIKE IM PLAYING CSGO IM A STAR IM A BIG PAYER OMGGG!! I COULDVE BEEN IN CSLEAGUE OMMMMGGG!!!!! I HATE AI UPSCALING AND PIXELS NOOOOO!!!Have you tried not being a little bitch?
>>720735392>The entirety of the map you're in is loaded all at once instead of culling out sectors based on your general areaBut why, though? Isn't one of the benefits of UE5 that it can literally do this by default? They had an entire technical showcase on it.
god imagine the universe where his USB of CP got leaked and nobody ever saw this greasy dipshit ever again
>>720722931everyone who is not a premium gamer must leave this thread
I'll never understand publicly blaming your very own costumers. Keep your complaints to yourself.
>>720722931>premium game for premium gamersHe never misses an opportunity to put his foot in his mouth.
>>720734917>>720735392UE5 is literally just UE4 with nanite and lumen. Lumen isn't even that terrible (it's not that good either), it's nanite that's the killer. Nobody knows how to optimize that crap and it always looks smeary/noisey. ThreatInteractive proved this again and again and again.
>>720735468For the record, I don't know if that's actually what's happening, that's me speculating based on the fact that going from the Open World to a "dungeon" area causes the framerate to improve to a hilarious degree. It's still not GOOD because Lumen/Nanite are turboAIDS, but there's definitely something fucked about the way they've programmed the Open World.
>>720734431Somehow, zero other boards have that problem. /v/ however has Nintendo adults.
>>720732869>Borderlands 1 required a modest PC of the time.Nigga I finished it on a Pentium 4 just fine.
My nazi chud friend says the performance isn't bad so I think /v/ is wrong this time around (he has a 4070)
>>720731874>t. proud libre-boot'd T440 owner and HRT user
>OK gamers, it's time to stop putting up with this shit! This is the last straw!!!1!1lol, lmao
>make sequel that looks the same as or worse than the predecessor>somehow requires 10x the resources>blame the customerlol
Hmm today I think I'll take my game which has a art style that intentionally looks cartoony and low fidelity and make it run like Crysis in 2007 but while looking marginally better than the previous entry.
>>720735972Who are you quoting, xister?
I'm glad that Monster Hunter Wilds has finally competition
>>720732869>The cel-shaded look was a way of getting good performance out of something visually acceptable that didn't require cutting edge hardware.I wish retards like you would stop talking about things you don't understand. Borderlands's visuals aren't any more computationally inexpensive than anything else. If anything, generated outlines+shading are actually more expensive than standard visuals. The way Borderlands ACTUALLY saved on computing power was by setting half of the series on shithole desert planets with no foliage.
>>720735972The new Dying Light will ALSO run like shit, by the way.
Am I finally vindicated for getting bored 15 minutes into Borderlands 1 and never touching it again?
I hate UE5Post yfw when its another ue5 slop game
>>720736045every single person who gets mad about getting burned by performance 10000 times
The experience everyone should want is a game engine that just werks at native resolution.
>>720736243Cool it with the antisemitic remarks.
>>720722653>spend $2000 to upgrade machine to play your game>spend $0 and just not play your gameTough choice.
>>720722931Another retarded gearbox release, another layup for Randy KINOI LOVE BORDERLANDS, KEEP MAKING THIS SHITTY FUCKING SERIES RANDYPREMIUM GAMER HE SAID, LMFAOOO
>>720722653Framegen and DLSS were supposed to be useful tools for budget hardware, not an excuse to make BL3 with better lighting and a third of the frames.
>>720722931>premium game>borderlandsThis nigga saying anything
>>720735589Its a weird videogames industry thing.Completely baffling
Are you premium gamer enough to play Borderlands 4?
>>720724857>Then code your own engine that competes with UE5 faggotUE5 games currently releasing are unoptimized, but I can't complain about that because the real course of action for me, is to build an entire fucking engine from the ground up? How about the devs just optimize their games? How would making my own engine make other devs do their job?
>>720730701I feel like he did at one point, but his kids (that are frequently heard in the background) are why he stopped playing. Now he just benchmarks and builds PCs because that's all he really has time for.
>>720722931i am not going to upgrade anymore i will keep buying my old specsthese cunts will make good games that arent 100gb and run well or they will die trying i have more than enough good games to play
>>720723057The game runs like shit and has no visuals that would justify it running this badly compared to just its predecessor
>>720722653GIVE ME REAL FRAMES FAGGOT
>>720722931BADASS GOD DOES IT AGAIN
>>720736369This is the norm now. For the past 5 years most AAA games on consoles have not ran locked to a particular resolution, most of them don't run natively at 4k, they always dynamically scale the resolution. PC gamers just have a choice in the matter and so, complain.What's I'm trying to say is, games are going to be made with the expectation of always using a upscaler.
>>720733793>>720733890
>>720722653But wasn't there someone with a 5090 and still couldn't run this at 4k/60fps?
I only play premium games for premium gamers such as myself.
>>720725602ehn jeru bureido
>>7207338514k was supposed to be the standard over 10 years ago and now we have people with 5090s struggling to run games at 1080p
>>720736952At native res it's about 40fps I think. You're supposed to be using DLSS with your 5090 like the developer intended.
>>720737091Then it's not true 4k, is it?
>>720731034>FOMO on a fandom thats been alive for almost 8 years
>>720737123Why do you hate god's chosen people so much?
TOTALBADASSVICTORY
>>720737252If they're God's chosen people, they wouldn't be on earth
>>720722931If only the game looked 'premium'
>>720722653I guess i can get 60fps with i5 12400f rtx 3050 8gb on 720p. Good enough for me
>>720725140I found that really interesting too when I found out about it after trying to run Crysis on a PC back in 2012 and being surprised that it still didn't run well despite my PC being much more powerful than the one I had in 2007, then I learned about how they planned for future-proofing and it all made sense the first ever dual core CPU only came out a couple of years before Crysis, and I remember that very few programs actually took advantage of it (which makes sense because it was so new, and dual-CPU motherboards were so incredibly rare that NO ONE developed programs to spread the load among multiple threads), so Crytek thought they were a gimmick and that we would have single-core CPUs that would be hitting like 6-7GhzI'm kinda tempted now to see how my 7800X3D runs Crysis, it only boosts to 5.4Ghz, but that's still over double what I was using in 2007
>>720724857>Then code your own engine that competes with UE5But I'm not a gamedev. I'm a consumer. It's not my job to do that.>>720725410No one has ever said that first thing you wrote. A complete strawman. I don't know why you're such a dick sucker that you want to defend companies making bad products.
>>720722931>we made the game shit on purposeAh I see.Then I'm not buying it.
>>720737278Disingenuous writing as bl3 practically had no launch on steam.
>>720722653Hes right on every account. Based randy
>>720737278Randy has 0 int and 0 charm and yet continues to succeed
>>720730153Yeah let me just make a ticket so a pajeet can go "reinstall the game sir"
>>720730818nah, you fine for now (only 4ktards are getting fucked in the ass this gen lol)
>>720722653I have 9800x3d and 9070xt and I run very high s3ttings 1440p with upscale and frame gen and the game runs smooth as butter. I just dont get the all of this crying.
>>720724857That's a cop-out answer>go to restaurant>pay for food>the food tastes bad compared to similar products you've had from other places for the same price>"WELL MAKE YOUR OWN FOOD THEN!"You don't have to be a chef to know food tastes badyou don't have to be driver to know that a car shouldn't stall every 5 feetyou don't have to be an optometrist to know if your vision is blurryyou don't have to be a mechanic to know that your car should start when you put the key inI can keep going, but as consumers with experience, we know when the thing you've produced isn't doing what it's supposed to do or isn't at the same quality strandards as it's peersHow about you get better at your FUCKING JOB instead of telling people to do your job for you?
>>720736829So the hardware hasn't caught up to the software and the solution is to let AI render half the game, making it look worse and become less responsive instead of just making them less demanding to begin with? Seems like a solution looking for a problem. I blame normie retards praising games for looking hyper realistic and having god rays.
>>720732998>5060nice laptop, bro!
>>720722653And yet nobody an prove him wrong.
>>720722931Almost a Phil Fish moment, Guess I'm a Standard Gamer now.
>>720722931Literally nothing he says is wrong.All the seething itt is poorfaggot cope.
>>720723057Bro, it runs on shit even on the best hardware if you don't enable fake frames. Devs just don't want to optimize their games anymore, likely because of all the poos they outsource work to being incompetent
>>720724857Don't dismiss the shitflinging just because the people doing it might not be doing anything directly to remedy the problem.Someone out there IS studying and developing a new engine, and the shitflinging against UE5 absolutely works as fuel to their fire and proves to them that their work has value.
>>720722653I have never cared about Borderlands.
>>720723494This shit is why some of most popular games are free-to-play.
>>720724398Me in the bottom left.
Why is everyone obsessed with 4k
>Software is too demanding for the hardware we have today!Then make less demanding games. It's such a a simple solution yet they want you to just accept dynamic scaling and AI rendering half the frames
>>720738473they old and can't see too well :(
>>720722931>part of /v/ is so retardedly contrarian they're agreeing with pissfordgrim.
>>720734917>tell me what color the sky is AND DONT SAY BLUEit’s filled with pointless bells and whistles a lot of sweatshop AAA devs don’t turn off or don’t know how to turn off, apparently it’s weirdly obtuse with its configuration settings so you have to hoop through 19 hoops to turn off 1 setting that’s making you drop 20~40 frames, then they roll out a new patch that adds more bullshit on by default that takes another 20 hoops to turn off, its a bloated mess of a engine at this point
>>720722931>>720722653he's right, why do people hate him?
>>720737904> frame genCmon now anon
>>720731269Professionalism only ever mattered for those with too little power to avoid losing their job for being outspoken or too honest.
>>720722653Athlon X2 435 user here, I dont care
>>720731304free 1070 from what or where?
>>720728787this is a fair point in favour of saars, but i ampretty sure that they go to indians specifically because they are cheap due to their poor work quality and the suits don't expect them to ever do things properly because they know that they aren't paid enough for that shit
>>720737468Linus already tested the idea with a overclocked intel, it eats a lot of CPU processing, Crytek fixed this problem with Cryengine 2 and fully optimized in Cryengine 3
