I finished this for the first time today, going in completely blind. And wow, this made me weep for how low the bar is for more modern survival horror games today. Tying saves to a limited resource, adding more enemies as you backtrack. Just phenomenal. Are the other games this good? The only other one I've completed was RE4.
>>720730526Unfortunately this is the height of classic style RE.OG RE2 is the only other good one.
>>720730526REmake 3 is so shit that the OG RE3 is now a masterpiece
>>720730739>>720730828I'll check em out. Cheers anons.
>>720730526REmake is the magnum opus of the genre and the defining game of what RE is.Sadly people have become too used to action orientated games with the TPS era and now FPS era.RE0 is the true tragedy.It's why many people disliked 4 for what it did to the series.>Came out 3 years before 4>Came out 8 months before 0That's why both of those were hated so much.0 looked great, but it's mechanics and gameplay decisions were so bad.4 just fucked everything up, even though OG fans accepted it's a fun game.
>>720730739>>720730828Can confirm that OG 2 and OG 3 are the best games in the series
>>720730526>Are the other games this good?The classic RE1-3 are timeless masterpieces, and absolutely must-play. And replay; that's something most modern AAA slop completely lack.And yes, you REALLY should play the OG 1996 RE1 as well. Preferably before REmake, as it was made for the veteran RE-fans, by the OG devs, who then changed things there and here to play mind games on the players. Skip the classic trilogy, and you'll miss all these cool alterations.RE1 1996 also has way more open-ended gameplay, with more alternative scenarios and endings, and it's overall more fun to play if you ask me.The recent RE-engine DE-makes are irredeemable garbage. No way around it.Instead, you should play the older spinoffs, such as Outbreak and Dead Aim.Continue the vibes with Dino Crisis 1-2 and Silent Hill 1-4 (originals), and maybe Fatal Frame.>>720730739>>720730828Try hard zoomer niggers.Original RE3 is literally the superior "RE2".It's the Code Veronica where Mikami went batshit insane and jumped shark.
>REmake is a good ga-
>>720731210>meCrimson heads are based.
>>720730739RE2 was good but bloated and silly, RE3 was leaner but not in a great way. RE specially the remake is an eternal classic and sadly will never be topped as the prime example of survival horror done perfectly.
>>720731210-me.Crimson Heads were a great addition, and the fact that DEmake 2-4 didn't have a similar system, eventhough it was planned, is just one of the many, many sins of those clusterfucks.>>720731272REmake 1 already was a significant downgrade from the 1996 original.Still THE definitive remake in history, and the game that started the boom in the first place.
>>720731175deadly silence had no business being that amazingi remember getting it on a discount expecting nothing and being completely btfo by how good that was
>>720731210Hope they return for RE9.
>>720731210I liked em. Plenty of tools to deal with them and if you didn't want to / didn't have the resources there was almost always a different route around. I kept a journal while I was playing so I could keep track of where I left bodies and plan ahead.
>>720731690As an boomer RE fan who was bummed that the Game Boy Color port was canceled, this thing was the next best thing. And I cannot stress how mind blowing it was to be able to play the FULL game on a portable handheld device in the mid-00s. It was even slightly enhanced AND tiny bit uncensored (the falling head)
>>720731210*makes your game kino in you're path*
>>720731175Should probably be updated for the gog version
>>720730526Are you me?Also I am so disappointed crimson heads were not used more
>>720732593I took a photo of the map with my phone and kept jotting notes on it with the stylus while I played.Only few games ever made me want to keep journals like this
>>720733835>I took a photo of the map with my phone and kept jotting notes on it with the stylus while I playedThat's honestly damn cute!We boomer gamers used to do pen + paper all the time in adventure games like this.
Og re1 is better. Not even being a typical v contrarian faggot. I held remake as the best classic re since it came out but I had never actually played the og1 until recently because I just assumed it was just remake but dated and worse.I was wrong, og1 oozes with style and atmosphere that remake totally butchers. It is a little on the easy side compared to remake though. However I think remakes consistently makes choices that ruin the experience. Crimson heads are fucking trash and you know it. If it was a couple of them fine but every zombie? That burning thing is designed to just pad(waste) time. Remake has one atmosphere grimdark creepy. Og1 every area, hell even every individual room had its own unique character. Remakes all room s and areas just look and felt the same. No color anywhere. Og1 despite being a horror game was filled to the brim with color and life and vibrancy. Remake went for boring forgettable serious real acting while og1 has the iconic and charming camp.Remake has more backtracking than the original. Also remake has these various extra play modes OG did not have but all of the extra modes are complete trash. Invisible enemies isn’t really fun niethernis that zombie with grenades you cant kill or whatever, I never see anyone talking about remakes extra modes because nobody plays them. But it’s mostly atmosphere, remake utterly ruins the orignal games atmosphere. And in horror games atmosphere is king and a ruined atmosphere is the gravest sin.
>>720735703Congrats, you managed to be wrong on everything.But this:>But it’s mostly atmosphere, remake utterly ruins the orignal games atmosphereYou're doubly wrong.Also:>Not even being a typical v contrarian faggotYou are.
DEMAKE>Jill's lockpick is nerfed, lowering campaign differences by magnitudes>far more linear right from the start, HAVE to go down the arrow hall and get the Sword key right away, can't go anywhere else>Mansion goes from having a modernish look to over the top candlit halls, someone having lit the candles in the MONTHS the mansion was filled with zombies>Guardhouse goes from looking like it was actually used (you know, since it was) to dilapidated and old, despite being where all the fucking guards lived>Neptune's small room is changed from believable to a huge aqua ring where Neptune insta kills you on a time like it's RE4>we get not-Nemesis, boring piece of shit that barely does anything other than add in explanations we didn't really need>caves are expanded and made worse with the gay box pushing>Barry's survival is changed from subtle to a literal "Yes or No" choice>Hunters are nerfed and censored (no decaps, despite showing them in the trailers)>Tics are cut instead of being expanded on>Second Tyrant in Chris' campaign is cut and isn't even present in Hard mode or Real Survival>Arranged/Advanced Mode is cut>Battle Game is cut (and with it, zombie Wesker and Gold Tyrant)>costumes from all the older games are cut and replaced with two of the worst costumes in the series and admittedly decent costumes that reference RE3 and CVX>the white beretta from Arranged mode is cut>Minimi and Submachine Gun (PC ver.) is cut>the Library is completely butchered, the room overlooking the helipad is cut>MO Disc collection is dumbed down>Self Defense items are added to make the game easier>shortcuts are added to make the return trip easier>the ONLY new modes are just basic 'Turn enemies invisible,' 'Only have one zombie,' 'lol item box doesn't work'>references to games beyond 2 are locked in a Japanese exclusive pile of text, Wesker's Report II>no attempt to tie into 0
>>720736027Yeah nah you’re a fag and you never played the original. >>720736174This guy fucks
>>720731690Being able to skip cutscenes made it such a great way to play. With no cutscenes, I've been clearing this game in like 30 minutes
>>7207305262 was just as good while stepping it up in a lot of areas (in an Alien to Aliens sort of way). Beyond that, they had a hard time finding ways to meaningfully improve without abandoning the core mechanics or identity. More often then not their attempts ended up ranging from questionable to bad.
1 > 3 > 24 >>> 5 > 6REmake >>> REMAKE 3 > REMAKE 2
>>720730526RE2 is better IMO
>>720731175fag post
>if you finished the game 4 times, you are forced to play with bomb guyI really hate it.
>>720731091By the time 0 came out the general audience and even the devs were tired of RE. Mikami himself was fatigued by the series, so he decided to overhaul RE4 after years of development hell and turn it into something completely different.
>>720731175>retard writing essayshit on RE>starts talking about Mikami for games he was famously barely involved inThe only RE games where Mikami's contributions would be measurable are>RE3For extending the development period and making it a numbered entire.>REmakeMaking it less faithful>RE4Actually did the work of a director on this one
>>720740315>By the time 0 came out the general audience and even the devs were tired of RE.This isn't true, it's just a common myth spread by armchair analysts.CV was one of the best selling games on the Dreamcast outside the first party titles, and the DC was a dead console by the time it launched.REmake and Zero also released on dead consoles, but in Zero's case, that was after years of delays and promising it'd be on N64, and they ultimately launched on a console NO RE fans had because RE4 had, for years, been slated for PS2. Even as late as 2001, you could find fansites going "RE4 is still gonna be on PS2 bros, trust the plan!" so that was the console RE fans were actually buying. This resulted in Outbreak almost outperforming Zero, because PS2 players fucking wanted Resident Evil. RE4 itself proves this fact, that people did not want RE on GCN, as it barely did better than REmake, it only sold well when it got ported to PS2.>Mikami himself was fatigued by the series, so he decided to overhaul RE4 after years of development hell and turn it into something completely different.Mikami is just a ginormous retard.Kamiya was already doing something completely different with his BIO4, and Mikami went "Nah, not RE enough", which is what caused the years of dev hell- he took a finished game and said "No, doesn't count".
Original is still better>less lineral >mansion suppose to be RECENTLY occupied with researchers NOT faggy ass spooky mansion>Kino VA>doesn't have shitty Lisa part that served no purpose other than to pad the game>best characters induction of the series
>>720736605>>This guy fucksHimself.
>>720731091>RE0 is the true tragedyFake nigga spotted. 0 is one of the better REs, more fun than even RE4. Seriously, that's probably one of the most overhated games on this site.
>>720730739i love re2 so much, I only beat it twice but have been thinking about downloading a ps1 emulator again and replay it a third timeprobably after i beat thief 2 and silent hill 3 i willalso the old RE's can be beat in a sunday afternoon, you dont need a gorillion hours like in modern slop
anyone knows if the steam version of RE0 is good? i'm always skeptic of old games on steam, they tend to run like shit
>>720742646Doesn't have any issues, OG RE4 is unplayable with mouse and keyboard unless you use a fix
>people played the remake remaster instead of gamecube version
>>720735703>>720736174They did their level best to strip every ounce of soul from the original game. Don't even get me started on the music. All those cool synth-heavy 90s tracks replaced with generic, utterly forgettable orchestral shit.
>>720743010i actually had to install some third party shit to run re4 at 60fpsmy pc is low budget, the most modern AAA title it can run at +60fps is overwatch, but still it shouldn't have had the problems i had with a fucking 2005 game like RE4my framerate was absolute ass, like it would be 25fps and go down to 10 randomly, i still dont know why it runs so terribly
>>720730526I still can't believe some people don't like the addition of crimson heads.
>>720741629this becca is a cutea cuteim going to kiss her :)
Boy I sure am glad they wisely used their dev time adding stupid bullshit like Lisa Trevor and enlarging the caves instead of fixing the god damn game so it has a coherent scenario with all 5 remaining STARS members escaping that fits with the rest of the series.
Jill and Rebecca are hotter in REmake so your tranny "og" complaints are irrelevant
>>720733308Are the gog versions good?
>>720744362You don't really even have to "fix" the game. Just put Barry or Rebecca in another cell down in the lab, give them a couple lines about how Wesker locked them up. Boom. Done.
I see now that the game is really easy, the easiest RE in the classic style by far. But when I played it the first time it was like the hardest shit I have ever played in my life. Because I hadnt seen anything like it. I was a Nintendo only kid and didnt even know what Resident Evil was. I remember we finally got internet access and I was shocked to see people post on Gamefaqs their short clear times and there were even unlockables tied to this because mine was 20 hours lol.
>>720746352in terms of difficultyRE1>>>>>>>>RE:CV>RE3>REmake>RE2
>>720730526Nice try shill but Tankslop was never good, re2 remake is better
>>720746579And put RE Zero in the front what an annoying piece of shit.
dont reply to him
>>720743161>>720730987I hold the lighting and atmosphere of this game in the highest regard you can imagine.
>>720741629You're the fake nigga nigga.0 has so many flaws in the core gameplay such as; Significant area transitions requiring mass item haulageAs above with points of no return or pain in the ass return tripsMost weapons being 2 slots in a game with no box and 6 inventory slots per personMolotovsLeech menBosses are all pretty shit, both in design/originality and actually fighting them.Monkeys; an enemy that jumps on walls in a game that you can only really aim in 3 directions.Oh and the key card in the train that a lot of people missed before going all the way to the back of the train.I loved 0 at the time as well, it is overhated sure.But it is nowhere near the top of any list of RE's
will 9 have monsters from throughout the franchise?
>>720745542They are.All fixed for modern OS and controllersCan download any language so Japanese is ready to mod with no fuss (literally just drag and drop classic rebirth and seamless HD in the folder and done)Door skip coded in.
Re1remakeReloaded when?
I prefer remake art style but prefer replaying og because it's leaner, tighter, more focusedlisa is a nice addition when you experience it once but on replays it just feels like a tacked on detour and distracts from the mansionand crimson heads are a nice addition when you experience them first because they make it more challenging, but on replays it actually removes challenge, i always end up with more leftover ammo at the end of remake than the end of ogtired of retards complaining about the remake art style when its the peak of pre rendered alongside zeroon that note zero is a top tier sequel and at least better than 3, cv and outbreaks, never understood the double standard criticism it receives over completely minor and trivial issues when it sticks to the core design that makes re good while 3 and cv are complete design messes
>>720730526The best part is getting to the lab and thinking "finally free from those fucking Hunters" and then suddenly the worst, most horrifying enemy in the whole game
>>720749215those are easy as hell. they go down in 2 shotgun shells
>>720751485They are still way creepier than any other enemy in the game, to me at least.
Are there any actually good indie survival horror games?I liked Crow County
>>720731210Just burn the bodies, what's the problem?
>>720751842One of the few times I pirated a game and then immediately bought it. Made by a tiny Chilean team and a sequel is coming out soon, the demo dropped a few months ago and its an hour of content>You Will Die Here Tonight>The Mute House>Hollowbody>Heartworm>Daymare 1998 (get it on a discount, its really jank in some places but a fun game, the sequel is trash)
>>720730526I tried to get into a "modern" take on the formula recently called "Hollow Body". Couldn't do it. It was like super jank Silent Hill.
>>720747546Have any modders stepped up to fix the flaws with RE0?
>>720752285Hollowbody has a cute joke ending on a second playthrough. Her name is Mina (a reference to SH2's Mira)
>>720751842Alisa
>>720751842Looking forward to crow country, playing it in spooktober
>>720752858I got out of the beginning apartments and was running around town not enjoying myself so I put it down. That's pretty early on though. I didn't uninstall at least so maybe I'll try again later. There were things I found a little interesting if I have to compliment it somehow. The voice on the phone sounds like a retarded ghost robot or whatever it ends up being if I see it through.>>720752865This one spoke to me for some reason. I've beaten it three times now.
>>720751842>Are there any actually good indie survival horror games?Penumbra Ep1-2Afraid Of Monsters: Director's CutCry Of FearSignalisTormented SoulsAlisa
>>720754670move village, og 3, and 0 to A, and swap where revelations 1 & 2 are and this looks right to me.
I do not trust anyone who prefers 3 to CV.
What about a game called Tormented Holes and its about raping a haunted asshole?
>>720751485They have more health than Hunters in the original game and they're hard to hit. I dunno why the remake nerfed them so much.
>>720755229I think more people would say the reverse
>>720755820Yeah, most people are retarded and have bad taste
>>720747546>Significant area transitions requiring mass item haulageThis sucked the life out the game for me. Such a fucking slog.
>>720740617>>RE4>Actually did the work of a director on this onedesu I'm not sure how much credit he should get for 4. If you look at the older builds, they already had the core gameplay that everyone lives like the aiming system and melee attacks everyone long before he ever got involved. They just kept trying to do things that were way too ambitious for the Gamecube hardware like fog monsters and real-time Otherworld transitions. Mikami's main contribution was scaling it back to something manageable.
for me it's re3
>>720731210retard filter
>>720757423HOT DAMN does she get the bug tentacles too???
>>720731210They're only good for exactly one (1) jumpscare when the first one gets up the very first time you play the game. After that, you quickly realize they're actually easier to juke than normal zombies and it's not worth wasting time worrying about burning them.
>>720754334cry of fear is genuinely too scary for me
>>720751842darkwood?
>>720735703>>720763197Crimson Heads and the body burning mechanic were a last minute addition with practically no playtesting. That's why they feel so tacked on.
>>720765528>Crimson Heads and the body burning mechanic were a last minute addition with practically no playtestingOh, do you have any proof for this?
>>720754670>RE Zero>S+Dangerously based
>>720765789
>>720730526RE7 is just as good
>>720766968>Unskippable cutscenes>Unskippable walking sequences and gimmicks before the Item box
>>720730526>Are the other games this good?Not really. RE4 is brilliant (the original not the remake).But that's it. The rest of the RE games are basically clones of alone in the dark, and capcom shits them out at an alarming rate.
>>720751842Labyrinth of the Demon KingNightmare of DecayConscriptThe Mute HouseThem and UsNot an indie game but I really enjoyed Amnesia the Bunker
>>720751842This one is pretty fucking kino:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2430900/Among_Ashes/
>>720741093>it only sold well when it got ported to PS2.It was announced for PS2 well before it was released for GCN.
>>720771049And? So what? The game still released nearly a year early on a console that had already been listed down to $99.
>>720770783>read the Steam page>"oh thats cool I should try this I love horror">pic relatedIt seems I truly am the retard.
>>720771882Nobody wanted to buy a new console for any game slated for one they already owned.
>>720772885>implyingRE4 had been among the most anticipated games of that generation. It not being a console seller even with that issue shows how badly Mikami bungled the franchise's direction.
>>720731175What's the simplest way to play the og re1 on pc? Can it be done natively?
>>720730526RE0 is just as good just install an item box mod
>>720773717Get it from gog. It has the original PS1 trilogy native for PC.There are some upscale mods out there too if you want to bother. They're ok.
>>720731210Funny how shitters always cry about crimson heads being too difficult or fucking up the pacing by adding more backtracking but they only appear in the first act of the mansion and the initial lab area. You spend the same amount or more gametime fighting hunters and bosses. But I assume anyone seething about them never actually made it that far.
>>720773717GOG TrilogyThey also have Dino Crisis 1 and 2All of them have QOL updates and modern controller support
>>720773164>>720741093>2001, you could find fansites going "RE4 is still gonna be on PS2 bros, trust the plan!" so that was the console RE fans were actually buying.By the time it was announced it had already sold all the consoles it would have. All the people I knew who owned a PS2 and no GCN and wanted RE4 said they were glad that they wouldn't have to buy a new console.
>>720773879item boxes suck
>>720774810It wasn't uncommon to just buy a GameCube for RE4, remember they were $50 new at this time.
>>720774964Those were obviously very limited liquidation stock.
>>720773879>RE0 is just as good
>>720730526The OG version of RE1 is worth playing in its own right, preferably American longbox, the one with no auto-aim, so that Plant 42 is an actual boss. Happy for you discovering a great game series; really, all the old-style games are worth trying yourself and forming your own opinion on, even if they do come in varying quality and soundness of ideas.
>>720730526Even as a kid I thought it was weird that the research mansion was ultra-spooky in the remake. It was like an over the top haunted mansion out of a classic monster movie, where no actual person would agree to live.Looking back, the original mansion was something people would conceivably live and work in. Even though it looks like a chinzy McMansion made by shitty contractors. Which Umbrella would realistically do to appease staff while cutting cornersMaybe this is just my boomer mindset, paying more attention to the architecture. Like look at all the shitty marble work in the og mansion. It's uncanny. Like it gives you uncanny vibes from the start. It's sterile, bright, confusing. It's not an overtly haunted spoopy mansion with spooky lighting but WHAT IS THIS PLACE? It's a legit mysteryIn the next RE movie they're remaking the first game, and I hope the mansion is the worst guady corporate mcmansion ever and target zoomers phobia of liminal spaces.There I said it.
>>720776383>In the next RE movie they're remaking the first gameThey aren't. It's a completely independent story and feels more like a pre-existing script they tacked Umbrella onto.
>>720775790RE1 with no auto-aim is hell. Hunters and ticks were such a goddamn nightmare. That said, beating the aimless versions made me feel super great about my skills, like beating Blood on well done.
>>720769689Kys
>>720777164It goes well with the survival horror pretense, since you kinda have to psych yourself up for every encounter you know about (since you probably hauled ass past it the first time). Plus it feels good to play the easier versions or sequels later and just totally steamroll them like, "yeah, fuck you."
I can't beat these games without guides. The inventory management annoys me too much. Am I a retard?
>>720779298y-you too~
>>720779564I beat RE1-3 when I was like 10-12. I would run from the start to as far as I could go, die and then replay that section knowing what was coming, then save. Then repeat the same "run forward die and redo it with new knowledge" cycle.
If there's one thing that bothers me about REmake it's how nerfed Hunters are compared to the og. It makes it where Mansion 1 puts more pressure on the player due to the crimson heads than Mansion 2, and I could swear they completely gutted its side-swipe attack that would ALWAYS catch you in the original if you tried to run past them too close.
>>720740617not RE2? y'know, the game he had to come back and take away from Kamiya to salvage it?
>>720730526OG Re2 is goodAnd in my opinion Re2 remake on Hardcore difficulty nails it.
>>720780357>not RE2? y'know, the game he had to come back and take away from Kamiya to salvage it?Mikami had no involvement in RE2's development beyond approving Sugimura's request to join the staff and delay the game by a year. If Sugimura hadn't toured Capcom back in 1997, Mikami would've just let 1.5 ship.
>>720730526>this made me weep I'm surprised nobody roasted you for this OP. Is this site finally moving pasted detached irony? Are we allowed to express our genuine feelings freely?
>>720780871No, it's just because RE threads are pseudo generals and nobody pays attention to the OP aside from newfags
>>720731210shotgun
