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Are you ready to admit that fromsoft ruined videogames and their tackle on game design?
I've been saying this when Elden ring released so you are late to the truth, and Elden ring is most flanderized fromsoft game ever

Picture very related obviously, it is clear they took fromslop game design to heart
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>>720732450
games for real gamers are coming back.
its over, snowflake
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Runbacks will always be gay
Bilewater is cancer
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>>720732450
No because I am not a little bitch that gets upset about a game being difficult.
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>>720732450
>Picture very related obviously, it is clear they took fromslop game design to heart
Yeah, and it ended up great. A solid GOTD candidate.
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Am I the only Anon here that loved this game, including the runbacks?

I went from sucking ass to pogoing like a pro, Bilewater and putrified ducts seems like a joke to me now. What other games give you this sense of a accomplishment?
I can't think of many with a good story, mechanics, soundtrack, for $20
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>>720732450
Not at all. Every fromsoft game(except for DS2) has an easy mode in the form of summons. This is just the dev being incompetent and not knowing how to balance.
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>>720733607
i also had no problem with it. most retards on /v/ are just bad at videogames, and their "runbacks" as they like to call them just give them time to reflect on how bad they are.
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>>720732964
Filtered
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The real problem of silksong is that the game doesn't reward you for almost anything.
Lets list out the shit the game gives you when you explore.

Actually Useful Tier:
>Half of Tools
>Mask Fragments
>Spool Fragments

Useful Tier:
>A minority of Charms
>First few memory slots (for your main crest)
>money/shard items
>historical artefacts (pay jack shit)

Not Useful Tier:
>Half of Tools
>10 beads (5 fell on spikes)
>5 shards (rest fell on spikes)
>Most charms
>Silk Worms
>Most of the memory slots you'll get
>music items

Flea Tier:
>Fleas
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>>720734202
A lot of this would be solved by Crest switching. You'd have way more tools/charms/skills variety, memory slots would be actually useful. And you wouldn't be limited to basically one crest throughout the entire game.
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>>720734202
>Flea Tier:
>>Fleas
Gives you access to the true ending, speed attack potion, pale oil (permanent needle dmg upgrade) alongside being a wholesome story
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>>720732450
Are you ready to admit that shazam lost?
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>>720734495
I had a massive grin on my face every time I found one of these dumb retards. "How the FUCK did you get in here, little guy?". 10/10, way better than the HK caterpillars
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>>720732450
and yet they get more players than any moviegame from sony or tendo
really makes you think
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>>720734662
AWOOOOOOOOOO
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>>720734798
It's almost like people like being challenged, and growing from an experience instead of being pacified like little babies
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>>720734495
when do they give you pale oil?
I don't remember that, I'm at the start of act3
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>>720733607
I loved it. /v/ is just full of casual shitters
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>>720732964
>Bilewater is cancer
I loved that zone. the atmosphere and music is great. what is even hard about it?
the best thing about silksong is how it has completely exposed /v/ as complete and total shitters. as I play through this game and see the things you guys have been crying about. filling the catalog with threads just fucking CRYING I am astounded by how each specific part ends up not being a big deal at all.

the REAL problem with dark souls and to a larger extend elden ring is that they have extreme difficulty options baked into the game. what we are seeing is all the shitters who play through the game using bleed build jump attacks and summons. people who have tricked themselves into thinking they are anything other than a absolute shitter. And now they are playing silksong a just normal game. it's not even hard. it just doesn't hold your hand. it doesn't offer in game easy mode liek you are used to. and /v/ can't handle it.
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>>720732450
>elden ring
More like the first dark souls.
>>720733607
Didn't really like it. I got better over time and was killing stuff easily but I can't say I was having fun. Guess it's like having to go up and down the stairs irl all the time. After go up 5 stories or so, it gets annoying and you just wish there was an elevator.
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>>720735121
who the fuck is playing in this webm, a 50 year old? or a reaction streamer?
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>>720735048
All the fleas + completing the minigames in fleatopia
Which happens in ACT 3 (if you find the fleas)
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>>720735591
Dean Takahashi, if I had to wager.
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>>720735175
Bilewater hiding the only bench is really cheeky to be fair. Only thing I've googled so far because I knew there had to be one hiding somewhere
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>>720735121
>That vid
I am dying lmao, people really need to learn how to stay still instead of panicking, if you stay still, half of the times, the beastfly will literally fly over you without hitting you
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>>720734456
So mod it.
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>>720732450
why are you blaming other people's lack of creativity on fromsoft
it's like when people blame blizzard for MMOs being shit
bro no one forced the other devs to copy their shit, they're just lazy
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>>720735048
It's not like it's new to Silksong. Hollow Knight also gave you a piece of pale ore for rescuing grubs. However, that was at grub 31 out of 46 so right at the 2/3 mark instead of requiring every grub on top of needing to complete 3 mini games. You also needed multiple pieces of pale ore to go beyond the second upgrade to your nail.
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>>720732450
Should da Vinci be blamed if Steve from up the road tried to recreate the Mona Lisa using macaroni?
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>>720736002
I already beat the game. Might do so for the DLC though.
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>>720735663
How am I supposed to remember which fleas I found?
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Runbacks are important because without them bosses just turn into meat grinders. Silksong succeeds where Hollow Knight failed in regards to boss combat because most people can beat HK's bosses by just mashing attack and healing without learning a boss pattern. If the bonfire/checkpoint is right before the boss you don't have time to think about what you did wrong, you just constantly run back in and try the same shit. The runback forces you to think about what you'll do differently.
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>>720737958
I don't like runbacks at all, if the bosses have patterns and can't be beaten by button smashing then you'll force people to think how to beat them anyway, no need for runbacks.
That said the game does reward exploring the map and often there's shortcuts that make the runback shorter.
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>>720732450
2012 was the end of the world. The gaming world that is.
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>>720737552
You don't have to when you find the one that sells the location of all the others
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>>720734495
Whenever I found a flea, I'd pretend Hornet would go
>awoo
with them. Fluffy little fuckers are so cute. I wish real fleas were like that and not satanspawn.



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