Moving in for the kill, Nintendo wants the entire concept of Pal battling removed from Palworld through their new patent passed (as always and without hesitation) by the Japanese office of patents (JOP). Therein, the concept of 'summoning a character to fight another' outlaws all forms of monster battling, and may even impair game mechanics employed in games such as Dark Souls (but of course, Nintendo, doesn't go after the big players of the industry).https://gamerant.com/nintendo-palworld-lawsuit-character-summoning-battle-new-patent/It seems Masuda won't stop until Palworld until the children devs are flipping burguers.The shocking thing is that Nintendo doesn't demand royalties from Palworld. This is not about money, it is about domination. They just want to see Palworld gutted until it has no features left. Forcing Palworld to remove pal battles would completely decharacterize the game.
>>720745031When you can't compete with product you do jew shit like that.
>>720745031What a bunch of fucking retards. Think of how much money they're spending on lawsuits when they could just make a better game.
Do you even do that in Palworld. I thought you just shot guns at the Pokémon and all the pals run around aimlessly with bad ai
>>720745031Wouldn't that affect any rpg with a summoning system? And digimon?
>>720745031>It seems Masuda won't stop until Palworld until the children devs are flipping burguers.
>>720745402There's a battle arena /battle tower now and it includes wild shit and a pc box in the patent. >>720745559Yes and SMT. Nintendo would lose a lawsuit to both more or less predate pokemon. SMT came out before and Digimon is the spiritual successor to Tamagachi.
>the money people spent on pokemon xy chromosome or whatever is funneled into this for years instead of more gamesnice company lol
>>720745747So what's their plan here? Or are they so secluded they think they can get away with it?Maybe it's just about annoying the pal devs.
>>720745559No because what this is actually a patent for is the Gen 9 system where you send out your creature and it auto resolves combat against enemies in a designated area
>>720745559Yes. That's the point
>>720745838They really are just retarded scumbags huh?
>>720745031Surely there is a law against frivolous patents, right? This will come back to bite them in the ass as it should, won't it?
>>720745887>So what's their plan here? Or are they so secluded they think they can get away with it?they invented jumping, they can do anything
>>720745887Grasp at straws until they lose. Surely jap courts and American courts aren't so retarded that they won't take into account the fact that Palworld is older than the patents, and that Nintendo clearly got them as retaliation. After Nintendo loses pocketpair said they're gonna put the mechanics back in the game.
>>720746106>jap courts>not retarded
I want to see the Palworld devs executed live by a man in a Pikachu mascot costume and I won’t be happy until I get it
>>720745559Yes, but the difference is that Digimon and SMT and such games do not threaten GameFreak's ego.The entire matter is the ego of Gamefreak devs.Digimon can't make a good game for the life of them. SMT is niche. FromSoft is Nintendo's partner dev.>>720746032All patents are frivolous, and Japan has no laws. They just do whatever the zaibatsus tell them to. Nintendo is the gaming zaibatsu.Miyamoto at one point wanted to patent jumping, which would have been catastrophic to the industry and stopped the genre of platformers.
>>720746459>Digimon can't make a good game for the life of them.Cyber sleuth, hackers memory and time stranger which isn't even out yet are all better than any pokemon game
I don't get why this one game asshurt Nintendo so badly that they turned into lunatics.
>>720745031GOOD GO FOR SMT TOO NINTENDOFUCK ATLUS
>>720745559Shin Megami Tensei is next. After that will be Persona. Nintendo is going all the way and I support it. Altus will be bankrupt by the end of this decade.
>>720746641I wanted to like Cyber Sleuth but it was just missing a lot of features I wanted. The forced character lock is cringe. The lack of clothing options is gay, and the digimon system still felt weak compared to Dawn/dusk(also better than any pokemon game)
>>720746654>I don't get why this one game asshurt Nintendo so badly that they turned into lunaticsThey tried to sign a merch sale deal with Sony. Nintendo could see the writing on the wall. Palworld was going to set up a bootleg Pokémon powered by Sony.
>>7207450311) The patent was filled in 20202) The patent is specifically about "Summoning a monster out of a ball. If the ball hits another monster they battle autonomously, if it hits the ground, the monster runs after you and looks for materials to pick up and other monsters to battle". The one, single game in history this patent applies to is Pokemon Scarlet and Violet. It's not even Pokemon specific.3) Learn to think for yourself instead of lapping up whatever journos spew
The only reason anyone talks about Palworld is because of Nintendo and Pokemon. And only in the context of shitting on them.What an amazing game!
>>720747046Not when it completely died months before Nintendo even sued them.
>>720745031They gonna sue Fate, Final Fantasy and WoW now?
Pokemon already has such a monopoly it's crazy to me they think they need any more
>>720745559technically yes, but patents are literally an 'i win' card - you can selectively choose who to mess with, and not defending your patents doesn't make it go away
>>720745251Not so retarded if you put it like that, if they own the whole concept, that means they can put any trash on the market without competition
>>720746106They stand no chance of winning in an American court. Pocket Pair might should just pack up and leave Japan. The courts there will never side with them even when it's blatantly obvious they should.
>>720745559reddit
>>720746641In what way?
>>720747228Will it be okay if it is octahedron instead of ball?
>>720746035i like that he is so lost in his own delusion he forgot DK is a copy of King Kong.
>>720748914Isnt a pal always summoned at your side before a fight?
>>720745031If Nintendo does it, I agree.
Palworld should switch to a phone device to "call up" their pals like the Telefang games. Problem solved.
>>720745031They have officially pissed off Disney it has never been more over for Square Enix trying to cock block the next Kingdom Hearts game with this.
>>720745031>It seems Masuda won't stop until Palworld until the children devs are flipping burguers.until until
>>720750331That would actually require Palworld devs to make something new instead of copying from others.Why do you think they just cut out the contested mechanics instead of replacing them?
>>720745031based palworld devs, they exposed nintendo for the scum they areI hope people make more nintendo copycat games just to piss them off
>>720745232It's easier not competing.
>>720745031Digibros, what now
2 nukes were too lenient.We actually needed a 3rd nuke to hit nintndo hadquarter.
>>720746035Friendly reminder some certain people tried to patent the human genome. These people have 0 morales.
>>720746035>raughsVery grew moments like this when I think two nukes wasn't enough
Fuck nintendo. I'm done buying their soulless garbageAnd fuck them and their stifling of creativity
>>720745232FPBP
>>720745031will they go after retail wow?
>>720745232Palworld isn't even competition. Even the shit Pokemon games sell 2x as much as Palworld. Nintendo's punching down out of pure pettiness.
>>720747349Oh you poor deluded tendie
>>720745031Good
>>720753562This. Let Nintendo patent every game mechanic and burn the industry to the ground.
>>720753239Nintendo only sues small devs or individuals. They're too pussy to pick a fight with anybody that can fight back.
It is your moral duty to hate and attack Nintendo. I don't give a fuck if it's about throwing a ball or not. Nintendo and other companies have all copied each other for decades.
>>720752461For once I agree with a weeb
Patents need to be removed from existence.They are literally stopping us from progressing as a species.
>>720753512>doesn't show the all time peak that shows how badly it died
>>720745031What’s next? Patenting crummy water?
>>720749865Yeah, the throwing a sphere to summon a pal at a specific spot was removed due to the patent shit.
>>720745031>Should we improve our dogshit new games?>No we will just sue competitors hahaCunts
>>720753889>All games (even non live service games like Palworld) need to grow indefinitely, this includes player count!You're almost as retarded as a modern investor
>>720745031I am disappointed by all the angry gamers in this thread, acting like Nintendo is wrong for defending their intellectual property.Consider the following:>1st - Nintendo has a right to defend itself, and if japanese courts rule in favor of Nintendo, it is because they had a legal right over all these game mechanics that were stolen. There are people PAID to decide patent law, and they are deciding in favor of Nintendo. Who gets to decide right and wrong is not your feelings, it is the japanese court. And the court favours Nintendo>2nd - Nintendo (namely, Gamefreak and TPC) is the victim in this whole ordeal, it is not Palworld's ideas (if there were any) being stolen. You are blaming the victim>3rd - Palworld is accused of infringing 35+ patent violations, not a couple. They were acting on bad faithYou are literally blaming the victim. Palworld they straight up marketed their game as a ripoff of Pokémon and Breath of the Wild. Then they tried to sign in with Sony for a merch sale deal. Maybe they were even going for an anime or a TCG, depending on the success of that. They had to be put down.These devs are not even 30 yo. They are kids facing a courtroom battle that they can't win. Nintendo can retroactively add and change text to existing patents to make defense impossible. They've done that already.You want the monster catching genre to evolve? Then do it the right way, paying due royalties for mechanics stolen. Don't just steal Nintendo's homework and put it up on Steam like you created it.
>>720749865 Yeah, you can summon and have one Pal out at any time whether or not you're fighting anything.And they of course took out the mechanic of throwing a Sphere to summon from a distance.Replace Pal Spheres with a 40mm Pal Launcher, tendy has no claim on that.
Dig Dug just patented digging
OP is panicking because if he can't summon his boogs then players will finally make some progress.
>>720745031I’ve never seen Nintendo be this relentless over a smal indie company and their small early access game, meanwhile they’re out here copying Minecraft like nothing.
>>720745031Total nintenigger death
>>720754067>Palworld they straight up marketed their game as a ripoff of Pokémon and Breath of the WildNope. Retarded journalists did for click bait.>Nintendo is the victimAhahaha you're so naive.
>>720752461Someone should do a Kyoani but with Game Freak headquarters instead. That will send the message.
>>720745031FUCK NINTENDO
how the fuck can a patent made AFTER the lawsuit affect it?
>>720745887>get the patent>fuck palworld in the ass>lose the patent afterwardsYes, they are that petty
>>720752461every time i read a nindenjew move i always think>HOW IS THIS EVEN LEGAL?Then i reply to myself>Bribes, corruptioncopyright is retarded, i hope this starts some outrage about it
Using jews to dab on copycats is fuckin based.
>>720745232Imagine how lame the console wars would’ve been if Nintendo just took Sega and Sony to court and used the law against them. Nintendo really has lived long enough to become the villain>>720745251TRVKE NUTH>>720745559Nintendo is going to scare lots of aspiring game developers with their lawsuit nonsense
>>720745887They recently added something similar to a roguelike mode to DK Bananza and claim it's an entirely new genre that is so new it doesn't have a name yetThey are deludedThey really don't know what's happening outside their companyI know they like to brag about how they specifically don't hire gamers but maybe they should hire at least one
>>720755181>Nintendo patents roguelikes next
>>720746035Sega invented idle animations
>>720754067>Nintendo (namely, Gamefreak and TPC) is the victim in this whole ordeal, it is not Palworld's ideas (if there were any) being stolen. You are blaming the victimSo you’re saying that Nintendo should never have competition, they're just too good to be faced with adversity and they’re the Disney of video games.
>>720754291>minecraft invented voxels>retard doesn't know the DQB team is making the game
>>720747007>Altus will be bankrupt by the end of this decade.How much you wanna bet that will actually happen by the year 2030?
>>720745031patents are supposed to be novel and non-obviouscan we sue the patent office for not doing its fucking job?
>>720746417woah shigeru i didn't know you posted here
Anti-Nintendism is gay. Fuck off palsnoys.
>>720748914>Throw item > creature appears > battle starts (auto or command)this is literally pre-emptive strike in any RPG>enemy gets weakened > throw item againit's not the same item you retard, it's another ball>capture succeeds > new creature joins your partypokemon has been doing this shit since 1996, almost 30 years agofurthermore, pokemon is not the only series where you throw capsules/nets/whatever at creatures to capture themit's preposterous that this patent was granted
>>720745031>>720745232fpbpNintendo would rather sue small companies into the ground than put actual time and effort into making good games.
>>720745559Probably not, since like how everybody can tell, Nintendo didn't sue palworld because they take their parents very seriously, they did it because they think it infringes upon their brand and image in a potentially harmful way. The patents are just the means to an end.
>>720747259Nintendo is stupid they keep giving the game free publicity rather than leaving it alone to fade away, just look at all those Platform Fighters like Nick All Star Brawl and Multiversus, those faded away because they sabotaged themselves.
>>720755636>pokemon invented capturing monsters to fight for you Don't look up what game released four years before red and blue
What if Palworld was an inside job so Nintendo had an excuse to muster up monopolizing patents like this one?
>>720755884
all this patent does is make me not want to buy a single nintendo systemnintendo is pretty much as evil as disney, microsoft, apple, and google
>>720748914>>720745031Even if the patent is specific and somewhat reasonable, I don't understand how they can patent mechanics they first introduced over 30 years ago when patents only last 20 years. Isn't there some sort of deadline to patent something?
>>720756227mihoyo is getting in on it too though. i think it's just been long overdue for a monster pet game that isn't digimon.
RIP shin megami tenseiRIP personaRIP dragon quest monstersRIP wow pet battles/warlocksRIP digimon games
>>720747259Disingenuous post. Palworld gets plenty of threads when new updates come out, there isn't much going on right now.
>>720752461Agreed, Japan needs to be put in its place their tiny little islands ain’t worth shit compared to bigger land masses around the world.
>>720753615Westoids are going to burn the industry to the ground for a second time anyway. May as well just speed things up.
>>720745031We need to boycott pokemon. I am going to stop cooming to all pokegirls. Even if I'm hard for misty, I won't coom out of respect for palworld.
>>720745232When you're born from a criminal syndicate, you're bound to be a petty cunt forever.
>>720753210Cheers Palbro
Why would a new patent be retroactive?
>>720754291Except minecraft is a copy of infiniminer and infiniminer clearly stole concepts from pokemon including the spritework
>>720756189Nobody said that you fucking retard, read the actual patent instead of spouting retarded shit>>720755959Right, and they have to do all those things at once for it to count>it's another ballAre you being dumb on purpose on this point or what
I have gone from disliking Nintendo to hating Nintendo. They are inconveniencing me now, they've become worse than microsoft.
>>720745031This is bad for everyone. If you're counting on Nintendo not enforcing any patent they hold with other companies besides pocket pair, all it takes is one bad year for revenue and they'll explore options of leaning on other devs.
>>720745232They know they can't compete with all the new talent coming while nips are jaded and slow now
I’m guessing it won’t effect persona though right?
>>720753762Also Copyright Laws
>>720756778They are basically fucking over japanese companies and unironically just making chinks stronger since chinks don't give a fuck about patents while japanese companies need to either pay or don't add the QoL
>>720753906Patenting pails
>>720756903unfortunately it will... monster battles will be very expensive to implement from here on out
>>720756608Nice collage
>>720749678They certainly memory hole'd that trial, didn't they?
>>720754067Except the only reason Nintendo is doing it is because they have the money to bully PocketPair and are only doing it because Palworld took off. Craftopia was basically bootleg BotW but Ninty didn't give a fuck because it wasn't making money anyway. Temtem was made in the US so Nintendo couldn't drag them to a Japanese courtroom. There's nothing stolen here, unless you forgot all the fucking mental gymnastics bootlickers did to claim they stole models and Nintendo didn't even bother because patent trolling is the only thing they could get away with.
>>720745031Aren't just screwing over persona and final fantasy
>>720745031how can you retro patent 30 years rold mechanic??murrica is fucking joke
>>720757080>Craftopia was basically bootleg BotW but Ninty didn't give a fuck because it wasn't making money anywayThis is the real damning truth ITT. If Nintendo truly cared about defending it's parents it would have gone after Craftopia first.
>>720755246>the rogue devs reascend to rape nintendo and reclaim the amulet of yendor
>>720747259>Says this when pokemon threads is always the same indians samefagging posting the same covers over and over
>>720746106Japanese patent law allows for patents to be created after and be used to retroactively sue. It doesn't matter if someone else did it first
to be very fair palworld is a blatant pokemon ripoff tho
>>720749151Unironically, yes. The patent is very specific about what it's suppose to do. They can change it from a sphere to a storage type throwable object but the courts might not approve it since it might be too vague of a claim, and has nothing to do with their own games anymore.
>>720745031At this point this is genuinely more of an antitrust scenario than Microsoft buying half the western industry, jesus christ.
>>720754067You and I both know tPC is fighting significantly below the belt, and that's before we talk about rhe trickery of pulling a patent and asking it to apply to a game that came out before you filed. As a mega Pokemon fan I want the franchise to do better, but it has stagnated and spent all its time and effort into merchandising and stopping anyone from evolving the genre. The throne has rusted beneath them and I'm tired of acting like this is ok. They aren't in the right legally, and they are even less in the right morally. I would agree Pocketpair came too close to copying Pokemon by many of the creature designs, but guess what? They didn't sue on copyright, they decided to sue based soley on patent, and the idea that you and nobody else can release a work of fiction with>summoning balls>summoning a creature for creature v creature combat>using creatures as mounts and swapping between them>using objects as points of interest to interact with in an environmentIs so profoundly entitled and stupid that I find this not even worth entertaining if they weren't burning millions to scream about it. Seriously, fuck Pokemon, and I say that with love. It's like watching a family member one go homeless, become a meth head and get arrested stealing lighters from a 711. Fucking shameful.
>>720755423SEGA invented characters rolling into a ball and Nintendo owes the a fuckton for Metroid, Mario Oddessy, and Donkey Kong.
And dumbfucks will still defend the retarded IP/patent system.
>>720745031Nintendo needs to get KyoAni'd badly.
the real question is why nintendo is going scorched earth against palworld? because it got popular? smt and digimon were also popular, because it got a deal with sony and microsoft? because pokemon is so dogshit nowadays they have to do this?on a side note square should sue nintendo for that ditto game being a carbon copy of dragon quest builders
>>720757849SMT predates pokemon so they would look like huge hypocrites going after it, especially since they ripped off a few of their designs
>>720757885Shalom
>>720757885Will you defend Pokemon and Nintendo's thieveries?
>>720745031Nintendo and TPC have put more passion and effort into patenting fun and legally stifling their competition than they have in all pokemon games of the last decade combined. Gameplay patents as a whole should be nullified. It's purely detrimental to an industry that already requires constant innovation and novelty to remain relevant, and only allows evil companies like nintendo to hold entertainment back.
>>720757849>because pokemon is so dogshit nowadays they have to do this?This is most likely the case
palkek lost
>>720758131Pics or gtfo
>>720756296There's no deadline, but in the real world you aren't allowed to patent something once it has become standard practice. The specific wording in the US is it has to be novel, non-obvious, and not a part of the prior art. The ball loop described would be novel, non-obvious would be questionable, but it is absolutely a part of the prior art at this point. By 2000 it was.Basically, if someone made some indie game that five people played and then twenty years later patented something from it, that'd be fine. Nobody really knew about it even if it wasn't technically new. But Pokemon is literally the most well known franchise in the world.
>>720757969The patents does not cover any games that's already been out. Seriously, there is zero game that actual infringes on any of the Pokémon patents other than Palworld.
I'm going to patent holding a gun in the corner of the screen.I'm going to patent pressing a button causing you to zoom in and/or use the sights on the gun.I'm going to patent yellow paint marking where to go.Now I'll be rich.
>>720753762Patents are fine. Japanese patents are not.
>>720758329>>720758206What about those US patents that were recently accepted?
kojima could have been a millionaire
>>720747228While everything you say is true and how patents work, that isn't the real problem. The problem is that even with a very specific type of implementation with a mechanic it means that Nintendo can do copyright trolling. They can sue anyone and then the onus will be on the party being sued to prove that they aren't violating the copyright. This is a tremendous strain on resources and could be catastrophic in many cases since a big company like Nintendo can just draw it out and win by wasting everyone's time and money since they have more money to burn.It's why the nemesis mechanic from the Lord of the Rings game has never been replicated. It has a very specific implementation and anyone could easily do something similar but in a wholly different way, but they choose not to because they don't want to get copyright trolled by Warner Bros.Copyright abuse has been very damaging to long term innovation but no one is going to do anything about it and soon we'll basically hit a wall where nothing can be created anymore unless you are a corpo puppet.
>pokemon is such uber dogshit that even some literal who indie devs makes a better pokemon game than you>instead of raking gamefreak over the coals and making better games you just sue the competition into the graveNintendo is acting like palworld killed their firstborn child or some shit.
>>720758423I blame the left for those failure in the US patent system.
>>720758427Mario 64 had Lakitu holding a camera ro represent the cmgsme camera in 96
>>720758551>tendies are now having a stroke trying to defend nintendolmao
>>720758308you should patent making false equivalences
They stole.Get over it.
>>720745031Still playing pokemon
>>720758447That's literally not how it works. A patent isn't just the abstract and is actually a detailed step-by-step process backed by diagrams and technical details that you can only infringe upon if you match every single step written. Matching one detail or step is not enough, you need to match everything.
>>720758447>It's why the nemesis mechanic from the Lord of the Rings game has never been replicated. It has a very specific implementation and anyone could easily do something similar but in a wholly different way, but they choose not to because they don't want to get copyright trolled by Warner Bros.Warframe actually has the nemisis system in it, it functions incredibly simillarly but it could be legally distinct enough I dunno.
>>720758423Ah yes, 'those' ones. Well, you know what they say.
>>720758923Do you keep up with the news? I won't spoonfeed you because you act dickish. Maybe if you ask nicley I'd sauce you.
>>720758475>Nintendo is acting like palworld killed their firstborn child or some shitThey did something worse from nintendo's standpoint, they started expanding towards merchandise, pokemon's real profit area.
>>720745031But that would make leftist unable to mass import third world street shitters to fight on their behalf
>>720758551not the same. are you people just intentionally misunderstanding kojima so you can dunk on him? before mgs, the "camera" in games was nothing more than a window into the game. when kojima says he invented the concept of cameras in games, he's talking about the cinematic use of cameras. instead of just keeping the same angle while characters talk like an inert utilitarian thing, kojima started playing with angles, cuts etc. like in a movie. that's what he means when he says that. just compare non pre rendered dialogue scenes from FF7 (1997) to those of Vagrant Story (2000). the influence mgs had cannot be denied. so yes, as weird and cringe as it sounds, kojima did in fact invent the camera as an actual CONCEPT inside of games instead of just being a thing that determines what's rendered.
>>720753210is that image real? wtf tendies, explain
>>720758817>Still consuming PokeslopYikes
palfags brought this on themselves because they dared to take a swing at the kingnow everyone gets pimp slapped by nintendo's legal team because some chinese got too uppity
>>720759062Your explanation makes sense but look at the context clues I had to go off of from that little tweet and tell me I was wrong for misunderstanding his meaning.
>>720745031Based Nintendo making the brown posters seethe lmao
>>720758839The patent troll can still file a lawsuit to drain your resources.Only big companies can handle them.
>>720759152Gamefreak is a small indie studio with little monetary resources to hire good talent please understand
>>720759193Your observation seems incongruant with reality.
>>720745232You're right the japs are jews. Careful though the weebs won't like you saying that.
>>720754978>game companies are le villainsYou're a grown man. Have some dignity.
>>720745031Doesn't Nintendo realize that this only gives Palworld more momentum?
>>720759310Said the esl poster
>>720759152Nah the graphics are significantly better than that, even on the Switch lite. Don't get me wrong they still suck by even 2010 standards but not nearly that bad.
>>720759229>Nintendo making their own fans seetheWeird decision for a company to make but ok
>>720759615>didn't even deny being brownRelax boy
>>720759568Not an argument.>>720759615They are obviously chasing the money at this point, as
>>720745031Why are Pokemon fans like this?
>>720759724*as the rest of the industry does this on a typical basis
>>720759945truth nuke. why are they like this?
>>720753210We all love unreal engine 5, don't we folks?
>>720759945They're a cult.
Soulhttps://x.com/Palworld_EN/status/1966472445033881688Shittendo could never
>>720760376You probably should be making fun of another engine when your pokemon games look like this.
gamefreak transititioning away from 2d-grid based world design has been a travesty for their games. colosseum entries were cute, and the zones you warped to were well designed, but it lost that sense of exploration. now you have some exploration, but the world is ugly and and everything looks like shit.
>>720750331You now reminded me of the JonTron video, and i'm sad he has stopped making vidya-related content.
>>720759945>>720760423This. They're Godless people with no structure or point to their lives, so they worship the first God they see, which is a cheap electronic game made by greedy thugs who hate themselves.
>>720761034So are they godless or not?
>>720760576>but the world is ugly and and everything looks like shit.so what changed exactly?
if nintendo put a patent on summoning entities to fight eachother, it would kill all collect monster games
>>720761085A cheap electronic game made by rotting old thugs is not a God, it's a false idol. Don't ask such stupid, worthless questions.
>>720761137This. The only time Pokemon ever had good graphics was Gold and Silver and at that point the GameBoy was over a decade old and the graphics were only passable because it was for a system from 1989.Even Red and Blue had awful sprite work.
>>720761137>dude look at these games entirely unrelated to the point you're makingI don't see how better looking games existing detracts from the statement 'things got worse', but feel free to be your own schizophrenic self.
>>720745031Dragon Quest Monsterbros....
>>720760460I would a Leezpunk
>>720761338You're begging the question, anon.
>>720745031So when it Atlus going to step in and slap their cock across their face since they predate pokemon?
>>720757690The throne has rusted underneath GameFreak? Maybe. But it is their throne, especially in Japan.These kids who made Palworld can only escape this through a tight noose. They got trouble with one of the largest, most important companies in their country.I am sure some chinese slop will be made that will outdo Pokémon and Palworld now that the genie is out of the bottle, but Palworld needs to be made an example of what happens when you steal from Nintendo, so that only chinese devs protected by the chink law (or Bandai, who can get deals made with Nintendo) will even dare to compete. And once the chinese slop comes out, that they may called for what they are, thieves.Nintendo has nothing to win with this lawsuit in terms of money. They are spending hard cash to put down a rabid dog and discourage the others.This is obvious rotten apple theory. If Palworld isn't put down, someone who can actually defend themselves will make their own masterpiece Palworld + Monster Hunter + Nintendo and put it cheap on the market. It will advance the industry at the cost of all the talent and all the ethics of those programmers involved. Imagine a Larian Studio grotesque frankenstein about a monster catching game. That is what we are talking about, another hit piece for gamers to weave around against devs and call them lazy.
>>720760576This. Pokemon games never really had an amazing style but it was far less noticeable when they were 2d which still leaves a lot to the imagination when you're playing. The jump to 3d is when their shit style and lack of drive to improve on it really stood out. I doubt anyone working there cares as long as merchandise is still a multi-billion dollar industry for them.
>>720761460>entirely unrelated to the point you're makingThey're 2D games on the same system. How is that unrelated?
>>720745031Is there any way to take the patent office itself to court since there is blatant collusion going on here?
>>720761712Least mentally unstable tendie bootlicker
>>720757849>because it got a deal with sony and microsoft?Yep. Nintendo could have sued any indie Pokemon ripoff to oblivion, but for one to get financial backing from their enemies presented an actual threat.
>>720761748Because I didn't bring them up at all? you did? You literally just interjected into a conversation, going "NUHH BUT WHAT ABOUT BLAH BLAH BLAH", and that shit doesn't matter, I am talking about pokemon, compared to pokemon, apples compared to apples, not apples compared to oranges - it's a very simple conversation to grasp, please try to stay on topic.
>>720745559Studios that play ball with Switch 2 get a pass
>>720761820I am telling you as it is. You fuck around, you find out. It is the law of the world, and Nintendo has very good attorneys. The trend for every business that becomes big is to gatekeep. The problem is that you people think the world is good, that things will always get better, or that you will always be served a better service with time. The opposite has turned out truth, what you see is rapid material deterioration of every franchise with ever rarer exceptions — generally made by upstart studios, not the big players.You are being served ever more stinking trash and you foolishly think that this could be different. It can't, and that is why Palworld needs to die. It was upstarts trying to make a dream game, building a fief in a land they stole from kings. You need to temper your expectations, no game can be good.I think people throw around insults like nintendie a lot, as if Nintendo were the only studio or business partaking in predatory lawfare.If these kids didn't want to be blacklisted for life, they shouldn't have made Palworld. Much less try to sign with Sony.
>>720756925lol that would absolutely destroy all art
>>720759945If scarlet/violet didn't wake people up, nothing will
>>720761945>am talking about pokemon, compared to pokemon, apples compared to apples, not apples compared to oranges -yeah and the apple looks just as awful as the other apple, so nothing changed
>Nintendo patents the concept of video games>All game companies must pay the Nintendo tax
>>720762538You're incapable of observing things objectionably, it's okay.
>>720756925If copyright laws didn't exist every chinese and indian on the planet would sell their port of sonic on every market overnight. It would be pandemonium, its a necessary evil.
>>720761712>But it is their throne, especially in Japan.You dont stay the king by squirrlling away on past victories, you do it by staying ontop. I don't care if they wrote Sherlock Holmes, nobody has the right to claim any detective fiction as their rightful property no matter how derrivative.
>>720762592Sony beat them on that one
>>720762401See >>720761820
>>720754067>Nintendo can retroactively add and change text to existing patents to make defense impossible. They've done that already.wat???How???
>>720745232fpbpIt's not even competition they're just salty and jewish
>>720745031Why doesn't Sony patent PS2 looking graphics? It would kill Pokémon for good.
>>720745232Yup. Its just like the Charlie Kirk situation but for video games. If you can't beat them fair and square, you shoot them. Then you watch tendies celebrate over that controversial Pal being abused. They'll say "Shouldn't have copied Pokemon" and how they "had it coming". Maybe if it had been more trans friendly like Tem-Tem was then perhaps it would have been treated more fairly by the wider community
>>720758423Prior Art is an absolute defense against those patents in court.Also the patent department needs to be reformed again. They're regressing to 1995 levels.
>>720753429>Even the shit Pokemon games sell 2x as much as PalworldPalworld sold 30 million copies.WTF are you talking about?
>>720762449good
>>720761351GSC looked like shit for GBC games.Pokemon has never had good graphics outside of a few games not made by Gamefreak.
>>720745031Jewtendo
>>720745747>>Nintendo would lose a lawsuit>Nintendo>Losing at anything
>>720763386Sony can stomp nintendo with this patent >>720762762
>>720763386nintendo got told to fuck off in america when they tried to make renting games illegal (after successfully doing so in japan)
>>720763468>me waiting for Sony to do anything against it
>>720763208Gold and Silver are DX games. They had to run on a system with a quarter of the memory and half the processing power of the Color.For GameBoy games, there's really nothing that looks better especially for JRPGs.
>>720762762you can do that? just patent "VIDEO GAMES"?
>>720752461Digits and it will happen
>>720747046>TriedThere is no try. They already did. The anime is in production right now.
>>720760576Gamefreak's graphix were always shit compared to everyone else, it only became more obvious when they moved to 3d.
>>720759945Imagine if id had patented the mechanic of shooting a gun in a real time 3D virtual space.
Are tendies ironic shitposting? I can't imagine what kind of freak subhuman would actually cheer on patent trolling, that seems even below jewish people.
>>720764274
>>720764640That guy sounds like the faggiest redditor I've ever seen on this board
>>720746106Jap courts absolutely are
>>720745031>the villain tries to destroy the world over petty personal drama
>>720745031Nintendo hatred reaching all time high
>>720745031Honestly, based.
>>720763154*Players
Reminder that this is a nothingburger.
>>720745031>Pokemon will still sell like hotcakes.>Nintendo will still keep winning.>Snoys and Palniggers will still be crying.
>>720764856It needs to go higher until the patent trolling is fixed.
>>720758883Due to SCOTUS removing the Cheveron precedent, software patents are on shaky grounds as congressional law has not really caught up to Software Patents and a majority of rules are under limited precedent for protection. The biggest being the Alice Test.WB won't sue the Warframe Devs because like most Software Patents, with no non-congressional rules in effect, they are likely invalid when tested. Better to have a threatening bluff than risk having nothing at all. Like Nintendo, they will never threaten and/or attack a peer, only someone much smaller that is easy to bully like the faggots they are.
>>720765072*Two Versions
>>720746035niggerlicious
>>720745251>when they could just make a better gameWhat if… they couldnt?
>>720765157This.
>>720745031BasedNot enough
>>720745251>when they could just make a better game.GameFreak sure can't
>>720745559No because game companies patent things to protect from patent trolling. Nintendo's not going to sue any legitimate company. Some AI abusing college drop outs led by a Chinese scame artist using ripped models from their games however, those are getting fucked.
>>720759270Have you ever done any legal work in your life? You sound like a liberal saying everything is bad because of Capitalism.
>>720765157BASED
>>720745891>where you send out your creature and it auto resolves combat against enemies in a designated areaSurely someone has made that before Gen 9? Lots of Korean MMOs had those auto-battle systems in place a long time ago.
I'm getting so sick of Nintendo Derangement Syndrome. Everything these NDS faggots do is riddled with disinformation they choose to believe.
>>720765157>wow, that thing is ugly->DONT CARE DONT CARE STILL SUCKING ITS MANGLED COCK HAHAHA I WINYou will now go "y-you are a [other thing]" or "y-you are thinking of dicks", because you cant actually address the point. You are a souless husk that uses a corporation to uphold your identity because you are too boring/stupid to have one of your own. Your only pleasure in life is to blindly worship a product that is actively getting shittier with people that would kill you without a thought if it meant squeezing out an extra dollar. I pity your existence, both for the burden it places upon humanity and for your own pathetic state.
>>720745838Wow anon, just think of the millions spent on a fucking patent application you dense retard.
>>720765320Ninteniggerlicious vs Palnificent
>>720765795How does patent trolling benefit Pokemon's creative potential in any way? How does stifling competition with bullshit lawfare help improve the product?
>>720757849Palworld while still small time shows a much greater capacity to eventually compete against pokemon unlike smt or digimon due to the being far more niche in comparison in terms of both examples and with the addition that digimon just never found a working formula to build off of, think of going from demons souls to dark souls and further building a franchise out of it while incrementally adding more
>>720748612PP is a company held together by string because they were too incompetent to use duct tape. They're not going to achieve anything in courts when they've already had their assholes torn apart by social media for trying to claim they represented the entire indie industry, while simultaneously developing a Hollow Knight rip-off. Once they get to trial and more of their devs start confessing to the CEO demanding they steal shit then they're dead for good.
>>720757760Metroid is older than Sonic.
>>720745232Patents and copyright were both created by big corporations to fuck over individuals and small businesses.Never in history, those two shit benefited an individual against a corporation. The fact that goycattle are okay with this is beyond me.
>>720765795Lol NDSDon't worry anon I caught the joke
>>720745031What I find funny is that Pokemon takes no cheap shots at Digimon, or the dozens of smaller indie pokemon ripoffs. It’s specifically Palworld that pisses them off I can play Cassette Beasts and Nexomon and tons of other knockoffs and they’ve never had issues with nintendo.
All the palslop devs had to do was not blatantly 1:1 copy the artstyle and none of this would've happened.
>>720745031>Nothingburger that will be forgotten in a week.Just like Palworld.
Nintendo is based, unironically always right, and will outlast your favourite developer, your current favourite Nintendo-bashing grifter youtuber, you, your children, your children's children, and your country's current regime :)
>>720766260or move to china
>>720759270>file a lawsuit to drain your resourcesEveryone makes this stupid argument and Nintendo has never once done it. It's getting mad over hypothetical bullshit.
>>720745031You can´t patent concepts or ideas. Copyright protects only specific implementation from derivative work and plagiarism. For example you can´t patent elves or vampires, rather you can patent specific depictions and even then protection is only enacted if you can prove the suspected work is derivative enough. Consider Marvel and DC, do you know how many characters repeat powers, concepts or character types? As for summons for battle, Digimons fight, duel monsters fight, there are summons on most JRPGs... The concept is just too general and it has been in use for decades.
>>720745031>patentThe most Jewish shit ever. The banking system is an angel in comparison.
>>720745031Guys i copyrighted a genre
>>720766405sega successfully sued EA for making a crazy taxi clone
>>720766645it was actually over the directional arrow
>>720748914>"THEY DIDN'T DO IT!!!!!">text literally says they didAre you people actually retarded?
We need to patent patenting.
>>720745031Nintendo's the only company making good, or even decent, games anymore so I'm fine with them owning the rights to video games as a whole.
>>720766694that's even worse
>>720766694>Sega made it so no one can have a pointing arrowwow
>>720766774Tendies are fucking deranged, the worst fanbase on /v/ by far.
>>720766774You're the only retard that would say something that stupid so it doesn't really look convincing when you keep posting the same thing.
>>720766774This and unironically
>>720747023>cyber sluts>lack of costumeswat
>>720745031It's funny because every time the company does some pure evil shit, it always has something to do with patenting.
>>720747023they fixed that in the new digimon game
>>720745031I see why the jews fear the jewpanese holy shit that's demonic.
why dont pal devs just move to china then blatantly copy pokemon as a joke and replace that IP?
>>720767095Because patent laws are purely made for big corpos to rape anyone who dares to compete with them.
>>720767516Patent laws are meant to reward innovation. In video games they are used as a tool to create monopolies on basic concepts.Video game mechanics should not be able to be patented.
>>720746032Japan's patent trolling and laws are way way more retarded than say, the US. and the US is insane in this regard too. Retarded, corrupt, and basically just built to support whoever has more money.
>>720745232they only after at games that sold more than Pokemon, games like SMT or Digimon won't get affected since they sold a lot less than pokemon and less popular. They only want to go after Palworld because they mock pokemon probably
Isn't the patent just for pokeballs aka only affects palworld?
>>720752461Based satania poster.
>>720753676Anime website, faggot
>>720754482Corruption.
DEJA VU!I'VE BEEN IN THIS THREAD BEFORE!
>>720752461Increase the tariffs on Nintendo specifically
I love how people are mad about this, but no one questions the fact that you can't use the seeds from vegetables you buy with your money. You automatically sign an agreement the moment you buy them. There are far, far worse shit other companies do, and no one says anything, but Nintendo doing like 1% of what other companies do? A literal satan.
>>720762461Scarlet/Violet ran like ass but was fun enough.. that said the autism cult forgiving anything and everything nintendo does is fucking retarded.
I feel completely detached from this industry at this point, I just pirate everything and contribute nothing to any of these disgusting Jew companies.Let it all burn
>>720767974no, nintendo patented using summonable monsters to be your mounts or gliders.
>>720768410>cant collect rainwater>cant use your own seedsmurica sounds like fictional place
>>720745232Tendies wont like this
>>720765157
Every thread about Palworld is 300 SNOYs crying about Nintendo having touched them.Face it, you fools. You LOST. Palworld is getting gutted down to the very last feature. The current game as it is already has lost many mechanics due to the lawsuit and will only continue to do so.Gliding? Mountable Pokémon? Pal battles? Soon it will all be gone.
>>720765843Still buying pokemon
>>720746035S
>>720768682I don't like nu-sony either. Nintendo is just patent trolling and being a retarded menace. If they spent half the time, money, and effort they burn on abusing other companies and the law their games would be top 1% in quality.. yes even Pokemon.
>>720768752>still eating shit!!!Good for you. You're still eating shit.
>>720768529Don't worry, soon corpos will patent breathing too.
>>720768890Actially I'm consuming a product that is the best jrpg monster catcher on the market.
>>720765843This is the standard SNOY response, calling pathetic anyone who thinks outside the box of anti-Nintendo shilling. Suddenly, it becomes personal, and the person who takes the side of Nintendo has to be a fool being ripped off and not noticing it.I'll tell ya: most people who buy Nintendo nowadays are adults. Zoomies and alphas buy Fortnite skins, it was grown up men and women lining up to play Donkey Kong Bananza.These adults know very well what they are doing with their money, thank you very much.So if your only defense for Palworld property theft is insulting those who accuse it of property theft (which it commited), you must find another excuse.I hate this toxic two-faced altruism where you pretend to want the best for me, but you actually insult me for having fun with Nintendo.
>>720768981>Actially I'm consuming a product that is the best jrpg monster catcher on the market.
>>720769184I said that, yeah
>>720768410>you can't use the seeds from vegetables you buy with your money. yes you can lmao. the only laws against this are regarding specific GMO seeds patented by corporations like monsanto. if you buy seeds from monsanto you can't use seeds from that harvest to grow more, but nobody fucking buys from monsanto except for faceless corporate farms in the first place.>>720768529>>cant collect rainwaterthere are no federal laws against this. some states require permits, and some put a limit on how much you can collect, but as far as I know none ban it outright. these are also regulations almost exclusively enforced within cities, not outside of them.
>>720768981This. People talk a lot of crap, but Pokémon is the state of the art monster catcher. The genre is like this, nothing can be done.
>>720769184
>>720768529I’ll give you an even funnier example, for decades, corporations were patenting human genes. This not only blocked genetic research but also gave them rights over specific human genes. So, if you happened to have those genes, they technically had rights over them. I’m not joking, it was pure schizo shit.
>>720769574holy shit
>>720768981>>720769335SMT.
>>720746035they also invented games as we know it, but we wont talk about that
>>720745031Imagine giving these rats your money. Fuck nintendo
>>720769890I prefer multiplayer monster jrpgs.
>>720758447>>720759270Putting to the side this anon >>720758839 explaining that you have no idea what you are talking about, to reply to this part:>The problem is that even with a very specific type of implementation with a mechanic it means that Nintendo can do copyright trollingDuring 45 years Nintendo has spent in this industry and thousands of patents they have acquired, not even once they have engaged in such behavior.
Wasn't Pocketpair under contract to release a full product for Sony or Microsoft? Like, wasn't there a lot of money put into Palworld to deliver something? Is it even legal for them to be still selling the game with such existential litigation going on?
>>720745031>recycled topic>1 week late>still influx of replies>all talking points have been said to death alreadyI hate mod-sponsored engagement driven threads.
>>720745031Palworld Devs can crash at my house in Washington and use my address for the business. I only ask for 5% of game revenue.
>>720745031>USAID funding is cut off entirely>Nintendo immediately goes for patent trolling to secure their position and avoid competitionas if they didn't had enough money already
>>720770582They are actively engaging in patent trolling behaviour right now, because a competitor made a better product and they couldn't reply to it any other way than through legal bullshitting.
>>720765891yeah, because all these lawyers working at nintendo are free, right?
>>720757550What's keeping a European company like Mercedes or Ferrari from patenting the internal combustion engine in japan and suing Honda and Toyota?
>>720768410>he doesn't buy heirloom tomatoes from grandmas at farmers marketNGMI bro
>>720745031What's that gonna do to other IPs like Cassette Beasts and Yokai Watch? Even Digimon and SMT are fucked too.
>>720768981You are supporting a product getting actively worse and applauding it to "get back" at some imaginary faggots. If you were an actual fan of the product, youd want them to give you the absolute best product that they can muster. You blindly worshipping them actively makes your experience that much less enjoyable. You could be having [thing you like] but even better if you actually held them accountable and demanded more. But you dont, so it becomes more and more shit. Then you think its some sort of ebin own.
>>720768981>Best monster catchernobody plays pokemon for the gameplay. it's all nostalgia and furfaggotry, otherwise Temtem would be much larger than 250 players.
>>720771471Yea. Its a social sim at this point. People get pokemon to have an excuse to talk to others about pokemon and socialize. If it was just gameplay then everyone would be playing romhacks and shit lol
>>720745031How the fuck do we survive against this Digibros...? We're cooked!
>>720769890Pokemon's battle system has more depth than SMT>dual typing>EV, IV>moves>weather>generational gimmick >abilities interaction>speed actually does something >etc.
>>720765570okay why are they suing palworld then
>>720772221>Pokemon's battle system has more depth than SMT(You)
>>720769539>S/V has become the first christian pokemon game by sending you to heaven
>>720770993>competitor made a better productlol>vomit is better than shit!lmao
>>720745031Man the world outside America is a fucking shithole. You know how thirdies always try and say>HAHA YOU'RE ACTUALLY NOT FREE BECAUSE UM IF YOU THREATEN TO KILL SOMEONE YOU GET IN TROUBLE THAT MEANS USA IS NOT FREE But the real meaning of freedom is that we're the only country whose citizens don't get thoroughly and forcefully raped by corpos and government. Japan has no Supreme Court like America. Japan has no petitioning to outlaw an unjust law. They just get raped and there is legally NOTHING they can do about it.
>>720745031God damn, even Israel is clappin at this one. What the fuck Nintendo. That's beyond professional judaism and lawfair, thats like US government under the control of leftists levels of lawfair.I'm both impressed and disgusted all at the same time.
>>720767884Bandai/Digimon are half owned by Nintendo or have contracts with them, they make some of their toys.
>>720772813>Japan has no Supreme Court like America>Implying our court isn't compromised
>>720773307Bandai has merch distribution rights for pokemon, which is why they always sabotage digimon. Nintendo don't give a fuck about the video games, this whole thing started when palword was branching into merch, which is ninendo's bread and butter.
>>720745031I hope my gacha games with this system sues back
>>720772813The American government getting sweet-talked by Disney is the reason why copyright law is such a dystopian shitheap there.
>>720772221>Pokemon's battle system has more depth than SMTEven if this was true (it isn't), there are no encounters and no challenges in the games that require the knowledge of any of those concepts.All Pokemon games can be beaten by spamming over and over again the strongest move your Starter Pokemon currently has.>b-but PvP!Centralized and unbalanced meta that requires 100+ made up rules (both official and unofficial) to not be unfun luckshit cancer.>b-but Battle Tower, Frontier, etc.Random shitfest the developers put zero thought on.It's more about luck than skill. Encourages cheating and using exploits.
>>720772813>'murica>the only country whose citizens don't get thoroughly and forcefully raped by corpos and governmentAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>720772813what the actual fuck is this delusionyou literally had rigged votings 1 president ago and the big tech corps own the entire world not just americathe entire world is like this. except china. but in china you're a CCP little slave instead
>>720773679Why are they like that anyway? They should cut off tranny healthcare if they want someone else other than a pajeets to be their retirement house caretakers so the pajeets will be too busy to chase the offending trannies instead.
>>720750331I miss Telefang…
>>720770618They signed with Sony before the litigation begun.>>720771591Digimon is so irrelevant that they are not even worth destroying.
>>720747259both palworld and pokemon are shit but this is trueno one would care about palworld if it wasn't for the plagiarized designs and the nintendo lawsuit>>720766924i mean, there are some outliers like the occasional indie or AA game, but from the big publishers nintendo is the only one making good games, yes
Digibros how fucked are we?
>>720745031Based. Nintendomination!
>>720774039Is it true the maker of tele fang tried to fuck a little girl or was someone trolling me
>>720771591>>720774902Nintendo would never sue Bamco (nor Sega/Atlus for that matter).
>>720773482Holy shit so that's why the last anime never got any actual toys and we barely get any toys.
>>720745031What does this mean for series like picrel? I've been a fan of DQM sine I first played Terry's Wonderland for the Game Boy. They better not fuck Square Enix over
>>720765739No because the patent has basically ALL the interlocking systems of how the auto battle interacts with normal combat when you throw out the monster normally, it’s a very specific combination of features; article in OP is clickbait
>>720745747>Nintendo would lose a lawsuit to both more or less predate pokemon.That's not how JP law works. Nintendo would win because they have the patent.
>>720746035yall will forget about how miyamoto was a jew that rapes boys after he diescaptcha 4jpnx
>>720759945Because it's all they had since childhood, no parents who loved them or gave them attention, no rale friends to play with (they just wanted to use your stuff), just Pokémon and Nintendo
World of Final Fantasy was the last turn based final fantasy and it was fucking great. But it flopped before Nintendo could even sue it and I'm so fucking mad.
>>720745031Palworld should do the same to put Pokemon out of business
>>720775141Nintendo won't sue people who can defend themselves. They can hold as many patents as they want, but they will only use them against targets that they can destroy.Palworld is just weak.
>>720759945The government put autism in the water so we would buy more shit and be useless sheep
>>720756747You know they are, I wouldn't be surprised if they kept looking at it like it was copyright more than a patent.
>>720766694I'm going to make a game with a pointing cock and balls instead of an arrow. Come at me Sega.
I'm weirdly starting to respect China and its lack of fucks and ni copyrights to the point they steal everything.
i hope it happens, that way all indie pokeclones get taken down and later see them read them whining on X that their original pokeclone cannot be released while still supporting the brand
The only thing nintendo wouldn't patent is running games at more than 30 fps
>>720759945>Pokemon uncleHe's literally me fr.
>>720775516>this incomprehensible gibberishDamn I knew nintendo hired jeets to make their games but didn't realize they hired them for shilling too
>>720775141Absolutely nothing because it doesn't violate any of the things listed in the patent itself, and they would have to copy everything within it.
>>720745232fpbp
>>720767884I guess it would sell more when it's on 3 platforms vs 1.
>>720772813How fucking ignorant can a single person be. And so confidently too.
>>720747259It's just virtue signaling and Nintendo derangement syndrome.No single person actually cares about Palshit, but supporting Pocket Pair who are known for blatant plagiarism means you can "own the tendies".
>>720745232Personally this was what made me decide to put Nintendo on the "I will not buy under any circumstances" pile alongside wonderful companies such as EA and Ubisoft.>b-but u wont matter! haha they'll sell anyways!I do not care. Other people can eat as much sewage as they'd like, I'll be abstaining.
>>720776104retardI got more hours out of palworld than out of any pokemon game for 5 gens running now
>>720749151>Well, you see, it's not TECHNICALLY a ball, because the polygons making up the 3D model don't allow for a truly spherical object.
>>720745232Yep
CHIGYUUUAAA!!!!!Nintendo are kings!!!!!
>$30 day 1 dlc of cut base game content Wow and here i was ready to buy ZA. Guess ill keep playing the free pokemon on my phone.
>>720754067You should defend your intellectual property by actually making good products, instead of seething and using pathetic underhanded lawyer scum tactics because you are a bloated pig of a company that is being outperformed by a literal asset flip that shouldn't be anywhere near what a studio with Game Freak's budget should be making."Intellectual property" is fucking retarded too, so you can fuck off just for even mentioning it.
I'm going to patent greenposting
Is anyone going to tell Nintendo that you cannot copyright gameplay mechanics? Whoever they hired as their lawyers are stupid if they think they're going to get anywhere with this besides getting laughed at by judges
>>720745232If they could compete then they wouldn't be getting sued
>>720776920You can patent anything you want if you buy a personal judge.
>>720776645>You should defend your intellectual property by actually making good productsThey did, that's why pocketpair is getting sued.
>>720745031Poopworld isnt turn based it rips off monster hunter more than Pokemon
>>720745031Based Pokemon deserve everything
>>720745031Michael Vick must be shitting bricks right now
>>720777121Who?
>>720745031Every game company should sue Nintendo in a class action lawsuit.
>>720777204God that would be a massive pay out for Nintendo.
>>720777204Its going to backfire. Either they're going to get counter sued by countless others or it's going to fail miserably and they'll just never talk about it again and forget it ever happened. Just Nintendo desperately trying to grab more money.
>I find funny how Snoys and Palcucks have no comeback for the sales argument.>The only hard, cold fact that is not subjective in this thread, and the only thing that matters to a company and product.Being a Nintendo fan is too easy.
>>720771036the jap courts are also biased, retard
>>720777045When was the last GOOD pokemon game?
>>720745232>can't competeLMAO, what!?It's the inverse that's true. Nothing can compete with Nintendo nowadays. No other gaming company can reach their numbers. WTF are you talking about?
>>720776645why do you fags always pretend palslop is any better than pokeshitare you getting paid to shill palworld or whatif you really cared, you would play smt, digimon, monster hunter stories or the countless indie alternatives like cassette beasts
>>720777726The one that sold 26 million copies?
>>720777726What makes a game good to you?
>>720777852>if you really cared about a ark+pokemon game, you'd go play these turn-based games insteadWhat causes this delusion?
>>720772613The wording of the title makes it sound like he's being forced to convert at gunpoint.
>>720745031realistically what will it achieve?everyone that was going to buy Palworld has already bought it. federal consumer protection laws state that its illegal for them to remove the game from ppl's steam libraries. surprised that the 5 dudes who made Palworld didnt just move overseas and ignore them. Jap courts cant do shit to you if you dont live in Japan, and if you get rich making vidya online you can move anywhere you want.
>>720765157I fucking kneel
>>720745232>Survival slop>competition
>>720777980>realistically what will it achieve?Make Palworld less of a parasite to the Pokemon fame and start developing it's own ideas for a change.
>>720777947>i only pretend to like palslop because i hate pokemonwhy is it always like this
>>720778095Who are you quoting? Was that meant to be me?
>>720770761welcome to /v/eddit
>>720777726B2W2 on the DS. XY had potential but needed a third version to really complete the region and, if nothing else, SM/USUM had some love put into them. Everything after that is a tragedy.
>>720758447Just putting it out there, copyright and patent infringement are two different things. So the lawsuit would be over patents, not copyright.
>>720747259cope nintendotroonpalworld shits in pokemon's mouth
>>720777777
>>720777980>realistically what will it achieve?stop or at least delay the deals they had with sony for turning it into a multi media franchise
>>720768410People do bitch about this. Its just farmers are more concerned about this and this is /v/.Further this doesn't affect you unless you plan to grow food in mass and Monsanto did that shit from day one with seeds that they invented.Nintendo hasn't done shit with this patent trolling and making it up on systems that have been around for decades. It'd be a different story if they trying to patent code.
>>720778287>Palworld is currently getting its shit kicked in in court>Already accepted that they are cucks and removed gameplay features from the game>Soon they will remove summoning>Then the game will shutdownthis is what you get when you steal from others.
>>720772813You want freedom go to third world. Long as you got enough guns, you'll have all the freedom and bitches you want.
>>720772813>But the real meaning of freedom is that we're the only country whose citizens don't get thoroughly and forcefully raped by corpos and government.>america>citizens don't get thoroughly and forcefully raped by corposfucking lmao. you guys got some of the worst in that regard.
>>720766260Pokemon did not invent "cute, simplistic faces." That said, there are a number of blatant ripoffs in their roster.
>>720758447>The problem is that even with a very specific type of implementation with a mechanic it means that Nintendo can do copyright trolling.It's a patent and no, due to the specific and detailed nature of patents it's exceedingly rare to win one without being absolutely sure that they're infringing. That's why patent trolling only really happens in America where they're hopelessly inept.>since a big company like Nintendo can just draw it out and win by wasting everyone's time and money since they have more money to burn.That's not how that works. You can't draw out a court case with money like that, that's nonsense that came out of the misunderstanding of what sony did to Bleem.In reality bleem won the case by Sony, in their usual spiteful manner, launched case after case at them drowning them in fees until they couldn't last.>. It has a very specific implementation and anyone could easily do something similar but in a wholly different way, but they choose not to because they don't want to get copyright trolled by Warner Bros.No, that's not what happened, it's just that it wasnt a mechanic anyone really saw potential in. Keep in mind, just because something exists doesn't mean that there's worth in it.
>>720766370If you don't mind the ruling party dipping into your coffers as they please. And having to live amongst the Chinese.
>>720766260To be fair, no one would care about it if the monsters didn't look like Pokemon.
>>720745031A patent can't be applied retroactively
>>720779279>Pokemon did not invent "cute, simplistic faces." That said, there are a number of blatant ripoffs in their roster.I agree. Unless by 'their', you meant 'palworld'?
>>720779424In Japan it can. Nintendo had none of the patents they claimed Pocketpair infringed upon when they started suing Pocketpair and the courts sided with them because they started getting patents as the case went on.
>>720776957Anon, that's not how it works.>>720777525Wasn't the last jailed nintendo fan a confirmed pedo who was caught with shit in his diapers thinking he was going to get babyplay oyakodon?
>>720779520I love this image, it's lets you know who is trolling and who is a dumbass, it just makes people expose themselves for what they are.
>>720779520>left and right designs are completely different i wonder why paldevs couldn't do this instead of plagiarizing i guess they just wanted to go for a quick buck without putting any effort
>>720777121KEK
>>720777197In 2007, NFL quarterback Michael Vick was convicted of running a dogfighting ring, known as "Bad Newz Kennels," on his Virginia property. The investigation uncovered a large-scale operation involving severe animal cruelty, including the killing of dogs that underperformed. The case sparked national outrage and became a landmark event for animal welfare reform.
>>720779998Pretty sure the pokefags doctored any evidence. For free!
Why is it that Brazilians are this rabid wit NDS? Don't you jackasses have more important shit to do?
>>720779998And yet Nintendo isn't suing them over the models at all.They're suing them over the game mechanics.
>>720780113Only brown people defend Nintendo/Game Freak actions.
>>720779520>creatures that exist in myth, or even just on a beach>because Pokemon couldn't possibly come up with "crab" unless they copied notes
>>720779998 DELETE THIS NOW !!!
>>720780195Nintendo owns crabs now according to lastest patents.
>>720779998This isn't the same topography. It's shameless, but it's not stolen.
>>720779906>that's not how it worksThat's literally how it works. You don't compete by stealing that's just admitting you can't do better.
>>720777525Didn't Palworld outsell pokemon? Oh wait, it did... oofs.
>>720779906>Wasn't the last jailed nintendo fan a confirmed pedo who was caught with shit in his diapers thinking he was going to get babyplay oyakodon?No?Did you just see the red shirt and think Nintendo or something?
>>720780316No. Palworld is sitting at about 15m or so? The rest is Gamepass.
>>720745559Pretty sure that anybody could demonstrate the patent is fraudulent if they ever took it to court.
>>720779998This image was made by a retard why are they in inconsistent viewing modes in blender? Can't actually see shit
>>720779998palsloppers will defend this
>>720780457Sure they could take it to court. If they wanted to get countersued into oblivion.
>>720779539Nintendo is so fucking scummy it's unbelievable
>>720754067>acting like Nintendo is wrong for defending their intellectual property.Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei had summoning monsters to fight back in 1987, way before the first draft document for Pokeshit was ever written.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Devil_Story:_Megami_TenseiNintendo is a disingenuous patent troll and their fans are FAGS,TRANNIES and PEDOS. Fuck'em.
>>720780438You're using sales from 2024, currently at over 25 million sales and 32 million players.
>>720777525That's pretty sad since Pokemon had over 25 years of prep time and palworld is breaking records
>>720780740>currently at over 25 million sales and 32 million players.That's not what the 2025 sales say.Also that would still put it below pokemon which is shameful for a multiplat.
>>720780720>still thinking that concept = mechanicI bet you haven't even played a single game other than pokemon.
nobody in this thread knows a thing about the laws of their own country let alone japan's, call me when there's an actual verdict i don't care about every single little random bullshit along the way
>>720780902The 15 Million number is literally the number from the first six months. It's currently sitting at 25 million sales as of May, which is the last update they made in sales. They currently just give player's at 32 million. You got caught bullshitting man, just grow some balls and admit you're wrong. But if you want to be a pussy little faggot, keep doubling down.
>>720780740NTA but they haven't given us any sales numbers past 15m. The only number we have currently is the 32 million players which is worthless since you can pirate it and still show up on that count due to their incompetence.
>>720781053>The 15 Million number is literally the number from the first six months.It's not.Unless you're saying that the sales stagnated after that.
>>720776957They did get sued 3 times
.........wait a minute
>>720780621Probably because it's terrible evidence of a point. Everyone knows it's a ripoff of the design, but looking at the tris actually hurts his point. They don't match.
>>720781187Pretty sure pocketpair has only been sued this one time.
>>720781073>due to their incompetence.Really tipping your hand, which side you're on there. When bragging about "player" counts, what makes you think they don't WANT to count pirates? They'd gladly report the bigger number to flatter themselves. "How stupid of them!"
So this has to be grounds for suing, right? They're trying to monopolize a genre.
>>720781826>Really tipping your handNot really, they are an incompetent studio and have been long before Palworld.
>>720782567What are you, one of the 10 spurned people who bought Craftopia? Palworld itself doesn't really support your conclusion, nor does your evidence that they might be counting pirates. If I was ANY company at all, I would count pirates as "players." Why wouldn't I?
>>720745031>we live in a time line where bigger gacha companies fight Nintendo back This shit would be so fuck funny mihoyo can fight back if they wanted too
>>720745031https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEVIBHP37eMPalworld has finally bent the knee, and are now forcing the game to be completed by next year before they go bankrupt
>>720782756>Palworld itself doesn't really support your conclusion.Yes, yes it does. Palworld isn't exsct9a stable game, not to mention they're literally being sued for infringement.> I would count pirates as "players." Why wouldn't I?For one normally pirated copies aren't counted due to their inability to go online, something Pocketpair hasn't done.
>>720781552It was on case with mumtiple alegationsThe balls (that got changed to cristals), some mons and the battle sistem
>>720783170>Palworld isn't exsct9a stable gameUh, yes it is. I don't think I've crashed a single time. It has bugs, but we don't really count non-crashes as "instability.">not to mention they're literally being sued for infringement.>Nintendo's legal bullying means Palworld is incompetentYes of course, how foolish of them to make a game where you "summon a creature that fights other creatures.">For one normally pirated copies aren't counted due to their inability to go online,Then how did you arrive at the conclusion that 32 million players includes them?>Including pirates? THOSE IDIOTS!>Not including pirates? THOSE IDIOTSBro you just change the rules to whatever lets you hate.
>>720745031Man that's fucking wild. They've got some balls, I'll give 'em that.
why are pokesloppers shitting up a thread for a shitty company that barely puts work into their world building
>>720766774this has to be trollingtendies arent this retarded right?
>>720777852>NOOOO YOU GOTTA PLAY LOW QUALITY POKEMON GAMESS OR I'LL SPERG OUTNta but whats wrong with enjoying palworld i enjoyed monster hunter stories and the demo for digimon time strangers also who gives a fuck about games like cassette beasts that games boring once you get past the tutorial the only ones playing that game is troons and for indie monster tamers they're pretty much all stuck on turn based slop no actual innovation in a sea of genres yet they're stuck on turn based meanwhile palworld broke away from that like spectrobes
>>720765921Nice
>>720745031>>720745232fpbp
>>720745031Did plapworld piss on Nintendo's cereal? They are exercising a level of prejudice i haven't seen before.
Palworld lost, should have filed their own patent. Oh wait, all they did was steal 3d meshes and used ai to edit them. lmao looks like they got cooked proper
>>720780720Nintendo had summoning monsters to fight in 1998.Patents only last 20 years. Even if they had patented the idea, it would be expired and free to use now.
>>720786370>those characters look vaguely similar in style to my characters>therefore the 3d meshes were stolennope
>>720781053>It's currently sitting at 25 million salesSource?
Palworld is a genuinely garbage game that used generative AI slop to make their monster designs. Insane that anybody still is left defending them
Any American court would look at this and throw it out if Nintendo tries to enforce it. It's a bluff.
>>720753762Patent and copyright laws are just, and watching you retards suddenly want them back because of AI is funny.
>>720787004>sources made up out my ass and only got my opinions off twitter reward
>Pokemon bootlegStrike 1>Pokemon models ripped from Nintendo games and editedStrike 2>Chinese; most notorious pirates Nintendo has been dealing with since the 80sStrike 3You are fucking retarded if you think Nintendo protecting their property and going after this "game" is "Anti-Consumer". This thread is NDS in full effect LOL
Why didn't Nintendo do the same with Genshin when it was a carbon copy of BoTW?
>>720787005>Any American court would look at this and throw it outWell that was a fucking lie
>>720787674none of that is true
>>720787674None of these are even true how is this a bootleg if it's not even the same game genre it's a ark plus monster catcher game i don't think pokemon has that also half of the accusation them ripping models are straight lies why do pokeniggers genuinely believe this when courts would've easily given them a win for copyright infringement since that's the only way they could sue for stolen models also why is it keep being repeated that they're Chinese when they're in Japan and born in japan
>>720787674>Pokemon bootlegMany knockoffs and indie successors existed, but only now is this a "problem">Pokemon models ripped from Nintendo games and editedNintendo can't sue for copyright infringement, which is why they're using patents instead>Chinese; most notorious pirates Nintendo has been dealing with since the 80sIt's Japanese
>>720787797that's because the patent office doesn't really take their jobs seriously anymore, they pretty much approve everything nowadays no matter how simple or easily replicatable
>>720787852Yes it is, down to you seething about Nintendo being in the right>>720787969Nice try
>>720745031I think the Japanese just out jewed the jew. Guess the planet has a new ultimate evil.
>>720788109For a tendie you sure are extra retarded
>>720788186Japs is known taking someone's example, and improve it.
>>720788336Lol not an argument, Snoyboy
>>720788863I haven't owned a playstation since PS1. Again, extra retarded
>>720789172dont bother with him he thinks consolewars are some sort of own
>>720745031Uh, wont dragon quest monsters and digimon get absolutely assraped by this as well?
>>720789304>>720789172Awww circle jerk hour
>>720787674All of this is true
>>720787674why didnt they go after temtem
>>720789476 try using an actual real argument besides being a major faggot and deflect by calling anyone snoy when your argument is countered also here's you're (you)
>>720745251>When they could just make a better game. Nintendo can't make good games anymore!https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7felygxfAn8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0__Ph3jk5WQ
>>720789701killed itself before it can reach popularity so there's not much money to get from it but they would've had a much easier time sueing this game due to similar gameplay to older games
>>720747259>30 million sales :)
>>720745251Nintendo hasn't made a good game in decades lmao
>>720789701It never made it pass strike 1
>>720745031What is stopping any other franchise before pokemon to sue them to oblivion for plagiarism?They didnt invent shit
>>720745232FpbpI hate Nintendo
>>72078989615 million actually
>>720789913it was a literally walking strike the only reason it wasn't sued because it was hindering itself and shot itself in the foot and i got a question for you >>720787674why aren't moba Pokémon scam games getting sued as well is it because they don't really care about their property it's only convenient when that single thing gets popular or a semblance of profit
how does nintendo get around pokeballs being gachapon capsules?
>>720789938Being first doesn't matter. All that matters is you have the legal paper saying "I made this first", which is what Nintendo has been doing lately despite it being blatantly untrue.
>>720790213Wasn't aware gachapon capsules was a video games where you capture monsters in balls
