>7 years >no info since did they do this just to pump stocks or something?
Yes
They are probably having a a very hard time to make something decent out of it
With Emil, it's doomed to disappoint. Skyrim is held up by the level of community support and tools given.That is not going to be replicated again here or in any other game considering how much the modding landscape and sentiment has changed since then.
What's "Glder"
I don't know how people haven't caught on yet on "what the problem is" or "what the game will be like".It is absolutely obvious to me.The entirety of the Elder Scrolls VI will revolve around co-op play.They probably pivoted a number of time from MMO to a Dark Souls model to simple co-op and maybe they even tried single player only after different iterations.But THAT is the hurdle, THAT is the thing, THAT was, at least initially, the focus.I am 100% sure of this.
>>720748896The community and modding is holding the games back, vicious circle.
They will triple down on procedural generation and it will be shit. In Skyrim it was contained to quests (radiant quests), in Starfield it became entire world space and planets, now, it will be everything
>>720748398it will be the last game bethesda makes because it will fail so hard. don't preorder don't buy until you see it's good
After Fallout 4 and Starfield, the only potential Bethesda games have are for modding, and even Starfield failed at that. TES6 will be carried by the franchise/setting, but if they continue with their paid mod shit and breaking mods every time there's an update, it'll be messy.
They felt for the gov baits that poojeets are just as effective as non poos and do the work for a fracture.Truth is, they do "work" for a fracture but it´s not the type of work you´d except them to do.They do it like the chinese but without the delivery.
>>720750964think its cyrillic or maybe even cyrodillic
>>720751228Or they fail to update their ancient and already outdated engine. The Creation Engine 2, used in Starfailed, is just a updated gaymebryo engine which in fact is the first Creation Engine.This and outsourcing is my bet.
>>720748398They're trying to figure out the next big "gimmick" to put them back on the map. I wouldn't be surprised if they're going to try to implement LLM-NPC's in the game, like those mods are doing. If they're the first to put companions you can chat with forever in their game, they might actually become relevant again, something Bethesda sorely needs.
>>720751997They don’t need a “gimmick” they just need to be faithful to the setting and expand on rpg mechanics. They lost the plot on this starting with Oblivion and no one from the earlier days even works at bethesda anymore aside from Todd and Emil. It will be doomed on arrival because they don’t understand their core audience or what their games even did right.
>>720751331I want the procgen quests. They forced the fucking story before procgen quests were available and the story is written terribly. You dislike procgen content because you fast travel everywhere like a mongloid.
>>720748398when releasing TES VI, they are going to compete with their previous 2011 game (modded) so they realize its doomed to fall
>>720751997that would be too expensive
>>720752910Just make microshit pay for it.
>>720748398Yes, they pumped their stocks because Microsoft was about to buy them.
>>720751997>They're trying to figure out the next big "gimmick" to put them back on the mapconsidering the map geography your main big gimmick will be niggersI know their state lore is ultra based but they're still niggers that will be used to cater to DEI and presented as such
>>720751228I think there will be a riot if the game turns out like fallout 76
>>720752493>they just need to be faithful to the setting and expand on rpg mechanicsIn a perfect world they'd probably understand this, but their recent track record show us that they don't. Skyrim had radiant quests, fallout 4 had that fuckass building mechanic, and starfield had "thousands of planets". They're allways trying to make the next big thing, and "radiant dialogue" or some shit like that doesn't sound too far fetch, especially not if they get microsoft to buy into their bullshit.
>>720751274I can also agree with this statement.If developers just bank on modders, they won't try as hard since "mods'll fix it".
>>720753440That's the thing: Fallout was the blueprint for Elder Scrolls, like always at Bethesda.But the entirety of Fo76 was redesigned and failed, and now the foundation of Elder Scrolls 7 needs to be rebuilt.That's why it's taking too long
>>720748398It's such a shame I don't really care
>>720752910local llms are a thing for years nowit will run on your machine
The next logical step is radiant NPCs with radiant dialogue
>>720753797>That's the thing: Fallout was the blueprint for Elder Scrolls, like always at Bethesda.You're retarded. Fallout 76 was the live-service game they needed to boost their valuation for the future Microsoft buyout. Their entire E3 2018 presentation was about that. It’s why they released the mobile game TES: Blades. It’s also why they showcased a CGI trailer for TES VI and the game still isn’t out in 2025.
>>720753934i mean it would be expensive to run thousands of llms to have genuinely interactable npcs each with their own personality and reasoning based on background futhermore how would you implement the dialogues? keyboard entries? but modern slope loves voiced dialogues unless you also use ai to voice all characters and the protagonist
Cant wait to build my Dwemer ship and fly to Mundus and Secunda (there will be a loading screen obviously)
>>720751835do you think UE5 is the same as the original engine from the 1998 video game that originally birthed the Unreal engine?
>>720753418I don't mind it. I'm not going to be a redguard as the "chosen one" MC and there will be other tamrielic races all over the game, plus it means I get to kill a lot of redguards.
>>720755660sail to over 1000 procedurally generated islands on your player built shipportal to over 1000 procedurally generated planes of oblivion in your player built wizards tower DLCfast travel to over 1000 patches of desert with your player built redguard harem
>>720748398Microsoft was eyeing them up for buying at the time, it was announced to make the studio more attractive and command a higher price.
>>720755926kino
>>720755926>redguard harembased. i'm gonna bleach the whole goddamn continent of hammerfell
>>720753934I'd love this but local llms aren't very good and are extremely gpu intensive. Even with a 5090 or hell, probably even with a 6000 series card, you just wouldn't be able to run a good enough llm for it to be worth it alongside a game that doesn't have Warband tier graphics.
>>720756337they won't be local. they'll run off of mandatory Copilot integration and you'll be connected to spycrosoft the entire time
>>720756335i neglected to mention they will be procedurally generated redguards like in starfield
>>720757267mods to remove or de-uglify the NPCs in starfield were some of the first to be released.
>>720757465i may be a BGS fanboy but im not desperate enough to subject myself to starfield
>>720748398After the stunt they pulled yesterday I hope every single person at Bethesda gets fired... into the side of a cliff.
>>720751997>>720752910They'll bake in a subscription, the voice acting will be ass, the NPC's will break character or talk about modern shit, enemies you can talk to will be sycophantic and you can just convince them to fuck off, Gooning Kings will just spend 100 hours trying to jailbreak Serena 2 just to get her to lewdly fart, and it will crash or bug out every 10 minutes. This will be the greatest game ever made.
>>720758091wasnt that softworks?dont think todd makes indiana jones tier games
>>720751835The logic in gamebryo was always fine and minor updates is all it needed. They rewrote the renderer twice so it qualifies as a new engine. The ironic part is that the legacy gamebryo code isn't the problem but the shitty new renderer and unoptimized assets.
>>720758446Not enough bad things can happen to all of them.
>>720748398Yes. They were probably planning to build on Starfield's gameplay design, so a lot of the game would be base/boat building and exploring procedurally generated islands west of Hammerfell. I imagine SF's negative reception sent them back to the drawing board so don't expect news until 2029.>>720755926>player built redguard haremConsidering the current trajectory you'll have a hard time finding a community make those sorts of mods.
This game is gonna suck legendary ass once it eventually comes out. Its gonna be Starfield 2>No jeremy SOUL>All the talented devs who worked on past titles besides a tiny handful of exceptions have left the company, replaced with insane leftoids>All goodwill burnt with StarfieldIts a TORtanic waiting to happen.
>>720758802>finding a community make those sorts of mods.honestly i just didn't know what kind of player made vehicle would be used for redguard so i pictured riding the redguards themselvesobviously that wont be allowed so a harem will have to do
>>720758969Good. It is Karmic justice for these subhuman animals.
>>720758091>After the stunt they pulled yesterdayQRD?
>>720758394prophetic
>>720758802>don't expect news until 2029.I would be extremely surprised if it didn't drop next year. TES6 in 6/6/26
>>720748398
>>720759497Retarded twitter account manager did a cute little dog whistle mocking the assassination, thinking mo one would call them out on it.
>>7207594979 second clip of indiana jones saying to a cat "you dont care about those fascists do you?" with the caption good kitty
>>720759497They advertised a game with a tagline " You don't miss those fascists, do you?"You do not hate these people enough. When someone tells you who they are you should believe them. They are fucking screaming it from the rooftops.
>>720758802>Considering the current trajectory you'll have a hard time finding a community make those sorts of mods.as long as they don't make the characters ugly, there will be an audience. they made the fatal mistake in shartfield of making all the NPC fucking retarded and ugly looking and all the coomers, aka the heart and soul of every modding community since forever, were like "NOPE LMAO" and never bothered, so nobody else did either.
>>720748896What did he do wrong?
>>720759903Make it hard to create White characters.Coomers can't get off to minority centric NPCs.White supremacy in action?
>>720759924Emil aged, lost his testosterone, and went sissy wokefaggot a long time ago.
>>720760087it was an issue with the procgen NPCs (which were created by a literal fat gay brazillian). most of the hand-crafted NPCs were perfectly fine, with some of them being quite attractive. Rayna in The Den for example is one of my personal favorites and it makes me a bit sad knowing there will never be mods that let me add her to my space harem and breed her.
>>720748398>did they do this just to pump stocks or something?Yes.>>720751228>The entirety of the Elder Scrolls VI will revolve around co-op play.I think they'll lean harder into content sharing, but outright co-op is doubtful. Their new CE2 engine doesn't appear to be built with co-op in mind.>>720751997>They're trying to figure out the next big "gimmick" to put them back on the map.I suspect they already have the gimmick, aesthetic, and core gameplay figured out. Based on the LinkedIn hirings--all quest designers--they appear to be moving onto content creation.>I wouldn't be surprised if they're going to try to implement LLM-NPC's in the gameThis wouldn't work as well as you think it would. LLMs only understand human language not game context.>>720752493>They don’t need a “gimmick” they just need to be faithful to the setting and expand on rpg mechanics.Maybe so, but Bethesda ALWAYS does a gimmick.I suspect they will attempt to do more procedural generation. Their goal has always been to build bigger, more ambitious, more immersive worlds and procgen is the only way to feasibly do that. IMO the issue with Starfield wasn't procgen, but they didn't emphasize space ship travel enough as the core gameplay mechanic (difficulties of representing space ship management in first person and issues getting their space ship builder to play nice with cell loading).
>>720760542Kinda hard to fix that level of ugly.They would need to rebuild the character creator from the ground up. That is beyond the skill level of modders.
Imagine trying to release a new Elderscrolls in a world where you're now competing with games like Elden Ring or Cyberpunk.
>>720760209Does eating sissy hypno burgers cause this?
>>720748398i dont think im going to give money to people who want me dead
>>720761041imagine if todd licensed out the tes IP and we got a fromsoft tes spinoff and a cdpr tes spinoff
>>720761053?
>>720761282>tes6 (DOGSHIT WOKE SLOP)>tes7 (formsoft, )>tes8 (???)>tes 9 (cdpr, expand on 9'th era lore, dwemer, steam & cyberpunk shit, potentially time travel / interplane transparation)would be sick but these retards would rather advocate for murdur
>>720761438retard
>>720761603>>tes8 (???)uncharted devs making the elder scrolls adventures: eye of argonia
>>720761682gonna cry?
>>720761282Todd has no say in the matter. I’m surprised Microsoft hasn’t done this already. Imagine a DOOM-style game with Pelinal Whitestrake as the protagonist, slaughtering elves by the masses.
>>720761842impotent human seethinginferior species
>>720761682wtf I love Bethesda now?
>>720761842>>720761909aldmeri DOOMinionspells instead of gunsE1M1 with 'elven instruments'(not a big /mu/ anon)fighting summoned daedra instead of demons
>>720760972there's nothing wrong with the character creator. it's the best they've ever released. the issue was in the procgen algorithms and in a prevailing corpo-woke ideology that forbid them from making too many attractive handcrafted NPCs with that creator.pic related is a handful of random people's creations from a quick google search.
Wo you think Starfield reception made them scared for TES6?
>>720762459Honestly? No. Starfield was a brand new IP and they knew they were taking a risk. TES is one of the biggest brands in video game history and has over 20 years of good will that isn't going to be destroyed by one game's mediocre reception, despite what a handful of severely autistic anti-bethesda doomers on 4chan believe.
>>720762313anon, the majority of them have the same face
>>720748398They haven't figured out how to make the game 'fun' yet
>>720762671anon, you have autistic face blindness. three of them are however the same character from different angles. you would have had a point if you said hairstyle, which I would have conceded is the weak point in starfield's vanilla character creator due to choice limitations ironically instituted by their woke gender ideology trying not to limit options for faggots and queers.>ok we have 10 styles for guys and 10 for girls>todd said we need 40 for each>also microsoft called and said we need pronouns not men and women>oh shit, ok uh, let's just let you choose to put guy styles on the girls and vice versa, just combine the pools, great, now add 10 variations of the zoomer perm sleazecore mullet and that side cut mohawk that everyone hates. voila 40 styles for each>perfect. ship it.
>>720762665Fallout 4 proves they can take a giant shit and serve it to gamers on a plate and they'll eat it gladly as long as it belongs to an existing big IP. Even if it butchers that franchise completely.Their lesson from Starfield is going to be, "don't make new IPs." Which is probably the correct one to take desu since every giant tortanic level failure was a novel IP. Modern devs can't make games that stand on their own.
>>720759741Do americucks really get offended when someone insults fascists?
>>720761682Is cuckenstein the only game they know how to play? Indiana Jones never cared much about this shit in the movies or the books, but its all I ever see in the advertising. Guess they'll never topple Infernal Machine as the GOAT Indy game.
>>720764085You know the missing the point meme? When they call you a "fascist" it means they want you dead and normalize that violent behavior, it doesn't matter if you are not in 1940 and know nothing of it, it bears no connection to that time, rather it's a technique to silence their opposition, ironically, something a fascist would do. All you need to know is that antifa-faggot are terrorists.
>>720764085yes, we have a sizeable population that unironically identifies as fascist. we have a lot of mentally ill retards here.
>>720764384sounds like you want a big daddy government to fuck your ass and now doing mental gymnastics.
>>720763838new IPs are always a crapshoot no matter how good they may or may not be. there are hundreds of decent indie games released every year that just don't go anywhere. even the wildly successful indie games rarely break a couple million copies sold, but to corporate standards that would still fail to meet expectations; consider the recent controversy behind African's Creed: Darkies. it was considered a huge flop despite selling somewhere around 4 million
>>720763695Nah, everywhere it's that guy
>>720761682Someone took a video of the clip in question before they took it down.https://x.com/V_Hallowhaunt/status/1967610155757113494It's a X post showing a recording of a video on X, but still. It's here for context.
>>720764384this. they literally JUST assassinated a prominent american conservative who was known even among the right for being a cucked pacifist who wanted to talk things out peacefully, because the left wing media had been radicalizing its golems for years about how everyone on the right is a "fascist". the furry homosexual transgender-chasing killer even wrote "hey fascist, catch" on one of his bullet casings.
>>720751331>>720752843More so than procgen quests, they should focus on procgen dialogue. This way they can actually add meaningful roleplaying options, perhaps by letting you write your own answers to questionsIt would be a massive breakthrough, although gamepads would be greatly limiting
>>720762313>>720760542these NCPs look absolutely soulless
>>720765307>doomer can't read>doomer can't spell>doomer can only retardpost
>>720764873>being a cucked pacifist>literally did "some of you may die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make" when asked about school shootings.>promoted zionist genocide and tried to convince millions of right-wingers, especially young men, that Israel was actually helping Palestinians.If he were a pacifist, then wtf is normal conservatism? Slaughtering people left and right?
>>720764854Better tweet on it:https://x.com/Megatronusfalls/status/1967646500940644818
>>720759617God i wish. Imagine how kino the game set in Hammerfell would be. Specially if it had ship building and sailing and piracy.
>>720762313>pic related is a handful of random people's creations from a quick google search.Based tranny using rpgs to play as the woman you wish you were.
>>720765440>but what about muh brown people killing the other brown people on the other side of the world?who cares? he was correct on the second amendment also, but it's more like that "how many children do we have to kill before you let us take your guns away" and the response is "all of them", but even that doesn't mean what you seem to think it means.
>>720748398Why would anyone care about the sequel to the dullest RPG in history? Each attempt Bethesda makes to craft a living world rather than a giant collection of slightly slanted taverns and recycled dungeons has been more disastrous than the last. Aside from the endless bugs and lifeless NPCs, Skyrim’s only consistency has been its lack of creativity and ineffective use of its own systems, all to make magic unmagical, to make action seem inert.Perhaps the die was cast when Todd Howard vetoed the idea of ever innovating past Morrowind; he made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody just a ridiculously profitable platform for DLC and endless re-releases. Skyrim might be anti-hardcore (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Dark Souls in its refusal of depth, challenge, and excitement.>a-at least the writing was good though“No!”The writing is dreadful; the narrative was terrible. As I played, I noticed that every time a character tried to deliver dialogue , Bethesda wrote instead some wooden, stilted line voiced by a voice actor who clearly had ten other roles in the same game. I began marking on the back of an envelope every time I entered an identical dungeon. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Howard’s mind is so governed by procedurally generated filler that there is no other style of design.Later I read a lavish, loving review of Skyrim by the same Geoff Keighley. He wrote something to the effect of, “If these kids are playing Skyrim at 13 or 14, then when they get older they will go on to pre-order Fallout 76.” And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you play Skyrim you are, in fact, trained to become an unpaid bug tester for Bethesda.
>>720766085my starfield character is a white man with light brown hair, blue eyes, and an Andreja wife
>>720766270>posts a homosexual actor as his "avatar" alongside his gay opinionslol
>>720766517>Andreja wifeBased
>>720765153>Procgen dialogueIt would be different for every player, that's dumb. Best case scenario would be controlled procgen dialogue and in that case they should just add personality and meaningful dialogue to begin with.
>>720766270Why would anyone care about the sequel to the dullest RPG in history?Same reason why pokemon is still hyped. And tbf there's not 1 other RPG like Skyrim. It's like a kiddie haunting house coaster. Liberating overworld and railroaded locations.
>>720764384DO NOT MAKE FUN OF MY FAVORITE ZOGBOT THAT GOT KILLED
>>720748398They probably invested into some super expensive AI gimmick for the npcs, and it's gonna turn to absolute shit.Expect npcs to forget their own names and gaslighting the player on things that happened just seconds ago.
People literally want Skyrim with an updated engine and graphics, but with a new story/map. That's all. How hard is it? Wtf are they doing over there
>>720771423They're old and already have enough money to retire, I assume that a lot of them don't want to make a by-the-numbers game even if it would work. Instead they want to make an ambitious game with neat tech in it even if the attempt is likely to crash and burn.desu I can respect it
>>720748398Damn, that environment looks like dogshit now.It looked amazing at the time.Huh.
>>720772740>they want to make an ambitious game with neat tech in it even if the attempt is likely to crash and burn.this would make sense if they were an indie dev with low costs. this is multi-billion dollar corporation with hundreds of millions in operating costs and beholden to a multi-trillion dollar behemoth who expects their cut as well. i don't think they expected starfield to have the lukewarm reception that it did, and they certainly expect TES6 to be a billion+ dollar game as well.
>>720759637>>720759721>>720759741i dont give a shit, not my problem
>>720759741>They are fucking screaming it from the rooftops.shooting from the rooftops*
I hope Bethesda gets shut down and all their IPs get whored out to any fly by night studio that wants to take a crack.All you had to do was be decent human beings. I want everything you ever touched debasd and used like a three dollar whore. I want your legacy to be disgrace.
>>720764464>we have a sizeable population that unironically identifies those who vote different from them as fascist. we have a lot of mentally ill retards here.
>>720774829They are halfway there already. This recent heel turn should finish them off.Shame but they did it to themselves.
>>720774829I honestly think that IP law needs to work kind of like this, wherein anyone can use your characters to make whatever they want and they own you some % of the profits if they do, but you can't forbid or ban people from using those characters either.
The saddest thing is not even what happened, but how it's not even shocking or a surprise. This is the world we live in.
>>720762781>he thinks AA and AAA games are about being fun
>>720775356You must be a modder. They have a parasitic worldview.If you are make the most disqusting mod ever so we can link it to Bethesda.
>>720771423And in a snowy map. Who cares about a desertic map when we go from one heatwave to the next?
>>720753440shitesda fans are the most braindead dumbfucks on the planet next to nintendo manchildren they will lap up anything shitesda shits out
>>720760209emil was always retarded and shit at writing lol
>>720776056I thought I was a Bethesda fan because I loved Oblivion, Skyrim and Fallout series. I was hyping up Starfield like crazy with my friend group. It turned out to be so catastrophic that I am no longer a fan. I doubt they can mess up new Elder Scrolls that much tho. Like other anon said, if it's Skyrim but updated I'm down.
>>720776295Writing has never been their strong suit. They cap out at serviceable.
>>720776298I think people are going to start developing bethesda fatigue, even if they continue to churn out skyrim-like kind of not bad but not great, mediocre games.Realistically, how many times can you go inside of hilariously undersized cities with no personality and talk to npcs with nothing to say so they can send you on a randomly-generated quest? You have to put something in your game that's actually good rather than just have everything be acceptable.
>>720776298shitrim was ok in 2011, not in 2025 with far better alternatives and mods outperforming the original by miles.
>>720751228>>720751835Goddamn, both of you are embarrassingly stupid.
>>720776545As vile as they have become I don't think they can be saved.
>>720776298You've gown Down syndrome, yeah
>>720752493>They lost the plot on this starting with OblivionNo, that was Morrowind.
>>720776623>not in 2025 with far better alternativesLike what?
Procedurally generated NPCsProcedurally generated NPC dialogue Procedurally generated quests Procedurally generated dungeons Procedurally generated world space
>>720776985> Dunmer worshipped a tranny god.> You could kill it in cold blood.Truly a different time.
>>720751228>The entirety of the Elder Scrolls VI will revolve around co-op play.
>>720776545>bethesda fatigue>From a company that has released 3 games in 14 yearsThat doesn't make any sense anon.
>>720777395When was the last time you heard something positive about Bethesda?With the sheer number of awful people working there people have gone from disappointed to actively rooting against them.
Starfield had over 7 years of development, was described as Todd’s dream project and significantly contributed to the delay of ES6. Yet it ended up being shit anyways WTF happened?
>>720777631Starfield pre-launch. Who works there now that are causing people to turn against them, besides Emil of course.
>>720748501This. If its anything less than a better-than-modded Skyrim: II it'll kill the company completely
>>720777745The only real news pre launch was the pronoun thing on a reddit ama with Todd.That went over like a turd in a punchbowl.
>>720748398Yeah. Also because no one wanted Fallout 76 or Starfield but they made them anyways
>>720777859>If its anything less than a better-than-modded Skyrim: II it'll kill the company completelyThat's if M$ doesn't suicide them first. Tango got taken down for a fraction of the fuckups that Bethesda has gone through. They should be thankful that the modding scenes for Fallout and TES are still keeping them relevant today. Because Shartfield didn't do squat to help their market value for the shareholder decadents already one foot in the hole.
>>720777859Fingers crossed. Them getting shut down would be poetic justice.
>>720751331I honestly think they've already learned their lesson
>>720777934No, the pronoun shit was the exception. Things likes no voiced protag, multiple background options, skill checks, no more forced 4 dialogue options and scaling back settlement shit were all received positively. They were addressing every major complaint from their last game, Fallout 4. Then they showed off ship customisation and flying, which made people even happier. Which makes Starfield's fuck up even more baffling, Bethesda somehow managed to introduce a whole suite of new problems at the same time they were addressing old ones.
>>720751997A lot of people have said the gimmick will be boats. Horse putrid shit.
>>720755882They don't let you choose. It's accelerated future.
>>720764085They've been calling Charlie a fascist and then posted that clip yesterday. Don't play dumb, faggot.
>>720751331Procgen is what I want for side content like guilds and sailing. There should be a fixed world like previous games but quests from factions should send you to procgen areas that contain dungeons or whatever your quest is. Having islands you can sail to be procgen would be awesome as well.
>>720777395every game they make is the same, so it doesn't matter that they don't release games very frequently.
>>720771423Well... And better combat, magic, better perks, good writing, actual choices, a good story, etc.
>>720778576That applies to 90% of the most popular video game series. And Bethesda is in the unique position of having zero alternatives to their games, which is why people keep buying and playing them.
>>720748398Bethesda legitimately cannot make games anymore. It's like expecting some formerly world class athlete on a long losing streak to make a successful turnaround at like 45 years old.
>>720778242>made the exact same mistakes they did in daggerfall, in their latest game starfieldno, no they didn't
>>720748398they knew all they had to show back then was that fallout asset flip so they threw out the announcement because they knew they would make it at some point anyway
After Starfield I have zero tolerance for the typical ugly Bethesda characters and buggy day 1 gameplay. I'm already committed to not buying it unless it looks modded to the gills right out of the box. I'm grading their next game on an asian curve, if it's not an SS+ it's an F.
>>720779029F76 was such a horseshit smoke and mirrors reveal. It even pissed Todd off to the point he forced them to let him reveal a single-player game.
>>720752493their "core audience" are normies who just want to create a character and run around a barren open world interacting with "goofy" characters and laughing when the engine spazzes out and shit breaks.
>>720758394>trying to jailbreak Serena 2 just to get her to lewdly fartNow there's an idea
>>720777039>Tainted Grail Fall of Avalon >Kingdom Come Deliverance 2>Avowed
>>720777859I wonder if Fallout and/or TES would find their way into better hands if that were to happen.
>>720779485>Zone based game>Preset character with a voice, personality and background (one of the most disliked aspect of Fallout 4)>Typical zone based ARPG with no open-world or even the tiniest hint of immersive sim elementsZero alternatives
>>720779775Like who? Microsoft bought up a ton of studios then closed them. Hell, they put together a studio of elites to make a new Perfect Dark game. A fucking linear, cinematic, first-person shooter, the most generic of games and the fuckers couldn't even do that, so microsoft shut them down too.>inb4 ID, MachineGames or ArkaneHow's Doom the Dark Ages, Indian Jones and Redfall/Deathloop doing again?
>>720748501they won't, It will be released in 2031 during WW3, people will be craving anything to escape their sorrow and depression of societal collapse and they will be gravely disappointed by the tranny obese high elve default characters
>>720773336I never said it makes sense financially. I said the people who're making decisions, like Todd and the other old higher ups, didn't want to care about that. I'm sure pumping out formulaic sequels would be much more profitable, but I can't see the old guard getting excited about it. If I was Todd and they told me to make Skyrim 2 instead of my autistic dream procgen NASA game, I might just retire. And MS has a sensitive position because if they kick those people out, the new generation of zoomers and jeets won't know how to work with Bethesda's engine.It likely will happen soon though, I doubt the olds have more than one more game in them at most. After that it will be a husk of a studio which turns out elder scrolls looklikes made in UE5.
>>720748398>they are still using that engine
>>720777039if you're this braindead and retarded then there's zero hope for you, dumb faggot.
>>720782717Yet, you can't name any.
>>720777643According to a leaker a few years back they had an idea for space travel that they couldnt get to work with their engine.>>720751997>They're trying to figure out the next big "gimmick" to put them back on the map.they should try to make an actual sandbox, but that has hand crafted quests like they traditionally have.
>>720748398let them cook(a dogshit game lmao)
