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Gemini Finals matchmaking period is about to begin. The finals begin tomorrow. How did you feel about your performance for this Champions Meeting and do you consider yourself an top rate trainer? And are you looking forward to the post CM /v/ictory Stakes?
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>>>/vmg/
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>>720764728
Forehead
But yeah another 5 losses
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I just got a really good Gold Ship that could've probably gotten me into A finals. I hope she can at least get me the Gemini ban
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>>720764728
I'm a lazy bum, but my umas work hard and have the potential to win.
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>>720764728
>How did you feel about your performance for this Champions Meeting
I went 50/50. I don't think I'm winning finals without some amazing luck but im satisfied
>do you consider yourself an top rate trainer?
Fuck no, I got taurus plat but I don't think I'll get plat this time
>are you looking forward to the post CM /v/ictory Stakes?
Yes, I hope I can join unlike last time when it filled up in seconds
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>>720764728
Generals belong on /vg/
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>>720764728
I made a Gold Ship with maxed stamina and speed but no spurt and she only has a 50% win rate. I will say a prayer and hope for the best.
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Is it smart to do recreation at the beginning of the career mode for the stat increase?
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>>720764889
>>720765443
Good thing this isn't a general but a thread discussing a Nintendo game
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>>720764728
i think my umas can win, Mayano keeps surprising me with victories and manage to get into group A all on her own, and my taishin got a cheeky win her and there
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What are the optimal greens for a groundwork uma?
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so is the schizo a MLP brony? LMAO
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I ended up getting matched with people who were just getting their participation awards
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I rolled a lucky pow 3*, long 2* anime Teio, did a few runs with her as parent and rolled 2*stamina 2*long McQueen, then used her as parent for Gold Ship. Did about 7 careers and chose the best looking Golshi. Got 3 wins on day 1 and 2, A finals. F2p, absolute garbage support cards all around. 0*SRs on my careers.

You must be an idiot to complain about the grind in this game. Just do the optimal goodenough thing and you'll beat most people. Game is too obtuse for casuals to not brick themselves at first opportunity.
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Can everyone join the post CM race?
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>>720765746
Just talk about the game lol
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>>720765748
Either participation reward or they literally just started playing the game
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>>720765548
I always do that but sometimes I'll do a training first on the off chance the resulting recreation isn't karaoke. It just feels a little more efficient that way.
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>i'm so angry about video games I download bestiality onto my computer
ok
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>>720765631
Has to be left handed, summer runner and long shot/outer post proficiency/lone wolf. Maximum speed.
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>>720765748
I don't get his, why not sign your best? Even if you don't win most you might still score a lucky victory and get more rewards
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>>720765582
I love playing Uma Musume on my Nintendo Switch 2!
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>>720765548
It depends. It would always be nice to get the double mood up guaranteed, but check to see if any of the trainings have multiple trainees and where you want them. It's also to maximize a possible energy up
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Holy seethe
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imagine being so buckbroken about a video game being discussed on the video game board that you resort to spamming bestiality kek
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>>720765548
I sometimes do it after a few rounds if I don't have a good bond training, since the mood is a multiplier, at the beginning without rainbows and level 1 training this isn't a big increase. At the very least don't have full energy in case you get non-karaoke, depending on the deck, getting karaoke and then a mood+1 is a waste of energy as well.
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>>720765748
Is Open the comfiest bracket possible? Seems like guaranteed free wins
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>>720764728
Scouting Amazon in a few days. What am I in for?
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>>720765904
>lucky victory and get more rewards
Shiraoki-sama truly blessed me that round since another race had someone that clearly just hit auto select
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>>720766047
Delicious brown and disappointment if you're looking to use her for pvp
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>That one asshole that starts a room race and doesn't start it when it gets full and makes us all wait 20 minutes
Death penalty to these cunts
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Cancer cup stats are much easier to hit, out of maybe 10 careers trying to get mile/turf/groundwork at the same time I never struggled to reach max speed 900 power and the stamina/guts/wit thresholds. I wonder if this means skills will be the make or break for most.
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>>720766047
the worst runner in the game next to biwa hayahide and anime teio/mcqueen
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>>720764728
I think I love Opera...
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Group B is full of staminalets or people who trained nothing but stamina. I barely made it but now I'm crushing it.
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>>720766227
What cards/sparks. I feel like I won't have as easy of a time as you?
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>monkey gore
That's all the proof you need that he is a thirdie. They love that shit.
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Double late surger too risky for next CM? I was planning on using grass, vodka and pasa since I'm shit out of luck when it comes to front runners
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>>720766529
it's a gamble but so is every other team comp, you can run it and win if you build them well enough
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>>720766529
Two should be fine, but surgers do have a tendency of getting boxed, if you have pasa as your third I think that will work
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>>720766447
Complete apathy to the suffering of animals or the outright hatred of them I have found is a very, very non-white thing.
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>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST TALK ABOUT THE ANIME HORSEGIRL VIDEO GAME ON THE VIDEO GAME BOARD FEATURED ON AN ANIME WEBSITE!!! THAT'S AGAINST THE RULES I MADE UP IN MY HEAD!!!!!
>*spams animal porn*
>AAAAIIIIEEEEE SAVE ME JANNY MAN
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Does Oguri have a "Straightaway Spurt" equivalent? Or rather Pace Chasers?
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>didn't proc Turf S or groundwork
>shitasan didnt finish her event
>Failed multiple trainings including a 100 speed one
>Somehow jobbed in most G1s
She could've been great....
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if I get 2nd place again despite doing 10 times more careers to prepare I will freak the fuck out
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>>720766794
I know it's ridiculous that it's happening in the first place but just ignoring the seethe and talking about the game is the best thing you could do
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>>720766906
Speed Star (Fine Motion skill) might do it?
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Hope my enemies get blocked and late starts
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>>720766906
It's all map dependent. Outside of Seiun Sky's ability on front runners, there's not too many other really strong abilities for other styles. El Condor Pasa's seems pretty good for this one though.
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>>720767007
Rude.
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>>720766954
A or B finals? If you're in B finals I think you have a decent chance to win it if you prepared that much. In the end it all comes down to luck. We're getting these things every two damn weeks so you'll have plenty of attempts to refine your game and get another shot
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>>720765548
I only do that rarely when I don't have good trainings for friendship, e.g. max one support at a time. My deck has a lot of free mood ups so I'm counting on that instead.

>>720765790
We have 150+ anons and one race has 18 entries at most.

>>720766227
Going by my CM experience so far any decent Front with active groundwork and the seiun unique is going to take you to A finals. Considering the fact that groundwork isn't always easy to get and you might need some luck to get enough greens, I don't think the "average casualness" will be much different in Cancer.
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>>720766983
Yeah... I know that's better to do, I just wanted rub it in.
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>>720766906
Red Shift and Shooting for Victory. They won't work in CM3 though, which is why everyone is saying that pace is straight up worse than late for it.
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Does it matter what time I register?
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>>720766919
it do be like that. now start over and do it again!
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>>720767189
Nah, rubbing it in just feeds those types. In the end what they want is attention and to derail the thread, which then gives jannies even more of an excuse to delete things. If you stay on topic and ignore them, not only are you depriving them of what they want, but you keep the thread healthy
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>>720767230
I don't think so
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>opponent's only ace has 259 wit
>every skill activates and he wins
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>>720767237
But anon....I'm a seiunlet and I'm out of borrows ;_;
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>>720767398
He was too stupid to realize he was a witlet
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Weeeey!
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>>720767181
I want the platinum title now because I have a bad feeling about my chances in the next one due to not having seiun
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>>720767398
>Teio
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>>720767409
time to use the best you have and hope you don't get the wrong pink spark or completely useless ability hints :)
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Do late and pace also need to hit the same wit, stamina and guts threshold?
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>>720767743
late can do fine with 20 or 30 less stamina, and the wit requirement only applies to front runners
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>>720767743
You want everyone to hit at least 601 stam/301 guts so you can get the hidden speed boosts for this stage. Yes that's a thing.
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Who's potential should I max?
Suzuka for the CM or Creek so she gets Maestro?
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>>720767934
Suzuka if you plan on running her
You don't need Maestro for this race, although it's not bad to have per se
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>>720767887
>these aren't mentioned in game and have never been officially alluded to
why does cygames do this?
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>>720767934
you can get maestro later
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>>720767887
That's fucking dumb but I guess it's not too tough. So the goal with late and pace is max speed and power, 601 stam, 301 guts and 400 wit?
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>>720768107
All of the information we know about the games stats, when skills activate and so on has been done by rigourous testing from outside parties. Nobody's datamined the game and none of this stuff is made public, so fans had to figure out all the stat autism themselves. Not quite uncommon for games to hide important shit, poorly explained game mechanics and not be transparent about it in general but yeah, it's pretty ridiculous.
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So....when is the kita re-run? Half anniversary?
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>>720768246
Yeah, but more like 600 wit if you can manage it lol. Better skill activation. This race is all gonna be about how many skills you can activate since everyone's gonna have their speed and power pretty much maxed out, but 400 wits probably good enough
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>>720768296
Estimated to be around december/january, so a few months from now, anniversary is a little bit afterwards so late january/early feb?
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>>720764889
>>720765443
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1LB vodka or MLB bourbon for power training? (Front runner)
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>>720768338
I doubt that's even possible for F2P. Two maxed stats along with B stamina and and wit plus D guts is beyond the requirements of gemini cup
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>>720768638
Bourbon. Do it for Smart Falcon. Do it for the Dirt
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>>720768638
I would take Bourbon for the skills even if the limit break levels were the same.
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>>720768949
Speed and Power are easier to train up than stamina. Doing a little extra wit training isn't that hard and you might even want to fit a wit card into your deck i.e. 3 speed, 2 power, 1 wit.

Grass Wonder for instance has a 20% speed gain, 10% power gain, and the japanese ran the shit out of her when they did the japanese cup for a reason. She's a strong pick. Stamina is notoriously hard to train for. Speed training trains your power in tandem, so it's much easier to build. Power training will raise your stamina + sparks make it easier. Just do a little extra wit training, it's more doable than you realize. You're just exhausted from the Gemini stamina grind. Training power/speed runners is much easier.
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>>720767887
>>720768246
>>720768338
you're being fucking gaslit
they literally don't exist and yes I was checked everywhere in JP Communities and there IS NO SUCH THING as a "Hidden stat boost"
holy fuck you retards fall for everything. "Brick urara"? "1000 stamina 2 gold for medium"? STOP FUCKING LISTENING TO LYING FALSEFLAGGING FAGGOTS
HOLY SHIT
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>Finally got a Taishin Long S run
>questionable stamina
Do I dare to run this for finals and pray it's enough stamina? Or should I just keep my current one in?
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>>720769113
Sounds like you want to keep all the good strategies for yourself desu
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>>720769113
the amount of misinformation that gets spread around in global is fucking insane desu, from
>golshi FEARS gentildonna
to
>YOU NEED 1700 BILLION STAMINA FOR GEMINI
it's quite funny to see
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>>720769214
Do you have two golds? It should be good but I'd be worried about the lack of long S
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>>720769216
Dude there is literally zero JP documentation
don't believe me, don't believe them, just fucking do your own research, it does NOT EXIST.
>>720769285
I've been watching it after playing JP for ~5 years and its fucking insane how retarded and toxic the EN community is.
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>>720767101
I had a random Condor with good stats for my dirt team and she got 2nd in a whale race. My skill choice was shit, no Mile S or anything, and she performed pretty well. I suspect she's a sleeper good Uma for this race
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>>720769318
The current one has Cooldown and Maestro, but no Long S. The new one I'd have to pick up Sleeping Lion because McQueen didn't want to give me Cooldown, I'm still in the middle of picking skills.
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>>720764728
didnt try, RNG'd into A finals
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>>720769338
yeah I've stopped watching most umatubers except for Takeshi Brockedman, his words are the only ones that haven't been proven wrong in my experience, I'll just get my info from here
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>>720769559
The information here is fucking retarded too. Just go on Japanese sites and look up information there.
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>>720769406
>sleeper good
she's quite literally the meta anon
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>>720768271
>Nobody's datamined the game
Why not? Cygames going to blast their asses with lawsuits if they do?
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How much did Santa pay for his sleigh? Nothing, it was on the house!
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>>720769406
>sleeper
El is probably second best behind suzuka or seiun herself
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>>720769665
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>>720769617
Yeah. Base your strategy on game mechanics that are not in the version of the game you're playing.
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>>720765904
that is their best...
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>>720769665
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>>720769647
>>720769686
Well I didn't know until I saw her beat a bunch of whale umas. Gee I haven't even watched videos about it yet
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Is the next CM a Mile or Medium?
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>>720769736
Return fire!
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>>720769665
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>this 100+ page cross referenced document is wrong
>trust me bro
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>>720769878
Our class rep is NOT that big
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
WHY THE FUCK DOES THE FINAL ROUND TAKE 24 HOURS
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Covfefe
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>>720764728
I couldn't get the 3 wins to go to A finals, 2/5, 2/5 and 0/5
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>missing 4 milestone rewards that JP already had by now
When did you realize cygames have already abandoned global?
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>>720770173
s-surely well get them by the 22nd...
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Am I i getting this right?
>Front and pace
3 speed 2 power 1 wit
>Late and end
3 speed 3 power
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>>720770291
>3 speed 2 power 1 wit
only if they have a 20% bonus on speed
>3 speed 3 power
replace one card with another depending on whether they have a speed bonus or a power bonus
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>>720769878
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>>720770291
look at it like this
>20% speed bonus
3 speed
>20% power bonus
1 power, 4 speed
>10 wit bonus
1 wit
>late surgers and end closers
don't run wit unless you really want a specific skill (summer runner, mile c/s, tail held high) but you can inherit them anyway
same formula as with the other two positions but you can skimp on wit to get power as high as possible
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>>720769878
Bakutetas...
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>>720770291
I get upwards of 800 power with a single card
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>Want to train my Umadol
>Need an El Pasa with miles + stamina
>None available
It is so fucking over
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are all the clubs full?
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>>720770851
Just make your own, Gemini is just ending
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>>720770851
I've got one in my friend's list but only 6* stamina instead of 9*, the other 3* are speed. Yes I'm just going to let this be my coping mechanism.
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Is 600 stam and 300 guts thing real? Or it is a fucking meme? I can't find any info about it online.
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>>720770981
Seems like it. It's useless to quit your club at this point of the month though.
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>>720770981
yeah
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>>720771064
Horse MD is real?
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>>720770981
Horse MD has two spots open
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>>720764889
fippybippy
>>720764728
Horse Game is so fucking content bare and repetitive it's unreal. I feel bad for any retard that made a day 1 account just to get cucked on 0-2 kitas or worse, whaled for one.
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>>720770981
Join aster or hot uma glue, they are /v/ affiliated
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>>720768271
>>720769650
desu i feel like if someone offered to steal the code for a bounty of 20000 dollars someone or some group would chip in to pay it
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My disdain for Air Groove grows each subsequent run I don't get groundwork.
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>>720771273
Skill issue
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>>720771064
>oy neigh climbed 300 spots in a few days
so this is the power of a suzukafag...
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there isn't a single bad song
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>>720771110
They're too busy treating special week hematochromatosis to get a good rank
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>>720771327
>Pov +6 guts and friendship increase by 5
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>>720765582
>go to /vg/ thread
>inane psycho babble low effort posting
>look in this thread
>inane psycho babble low effort posting

???
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>>720771064
/v/oonerzuela's rise to the top has been monumental
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Why is grass wonder always so fucking mad?
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>>720771445
I KNOW THERE'S ROOM FOR YOU TO GROW!
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why do people leave clubs
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>>720771549
>t. special WEAK
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>>720771549
あの女は汚い外人だ
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>>720771631
Depends on the club
If the club is inactive, people often leave because nobody is trading shoes or there's a better club they can join, which means more carats each month. And with how hard carats are to come by, people want to be in a good club and maxing out club points every day as well. So if a club is being mismanaged i.e. many inactive users/nobody trading shoes, people leave.

As for the other reasons, sometimes people just get burned out on the game and don't want the pressure of logging in daily, want to play other games and that sort of thing.
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>>720771631
no loyalty
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Which of these two Golshi's has the better shot? Umalator says the left one is better by 1 length both on average and median
But i think the right one is more stable...
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LOTTA LOYALTY FOR A HIRED FAN FARMER
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>>720771754
A lot of loyalty for a dead club
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>>720771784
The one with spurt.
1 length on average is a lot, the umalator is right. Golshis with spurt have a huge advantage over those without. Also you've got better abilities on the left in general
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>>720771784
Go with left you're gonna need a highroll to win anyway
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*sips*
Sorry anon, didn't realize that was your last water bottle ~
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Some thoughts.

Suzuka's story is really good and very nice. It's not dramatic or overwrought, she's not quirky, she doesn't cause problems and she's not "loud" either in personality or voice. But it's got a really endearing heart to it.

I worry that people will look at it and her issue and use the lazy conclusion "Oh, she's autistic". She's not, she's just extremely introverted and not good at dealing with people. And, that's never presented as a flaw or something to overcome, she doesn't want to be better at dealing with people and she doesn't want to be more outgoing. However, she's also not callous in the least, she cares deeply for people and struggles immensely with how her winning hurts others.

The story about how her original trainer (female) tried to make her run in a conventional way, but Suzuka's so introverted that being around other runners literally makes her freak out, lose her mojo and destroys everything she likes about running, is really nice. It really feels like she doesn't need to be a professional racer, she'd be just as happy running casually, and she seemed to be on the verge of making that decision when your character helps her and offers to make her a Runaway Front Runner.

Overall, I really liked it. It felt sincere, I liked how she really didn't have a competitive spirit, she just couldn't bear to give up the lead since doing so would ruin her "view", and I liked watching her change just slightly as she takes your advice and gets better at presenting herself to others. Good, nice, solid story that ends with a very clear romantic hook. I worry that she'll be an awkward mother though.

And as a complete opposite, I enjoyed Matikanefukukitaru's career far more than I expected, despite how ridiculously quirky she is. She's very endearing, watching her collapse in tears when her fortunes don't work out and she comes second despite her "destiny" is heartbreaking, and her Hot Springs event is very, very sweet.
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>>720771748
Burnout.
Taurus was manageable. Gemini is hard. Cancer is brutally difficult. I expect my club to dip hard too after cancer. F2P's whined about how hard was it to make a good stamina horse, but now you need a good power, good wit horse with groundwork, mile S, accel skills. This is more or less impossible for f2ps.
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>>720772097
Does she smell bad?
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Reminder that Danchou is watching.
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>>720771631
A couple guys left /v/ma because they got burnt out and didn't want to hold us back.
On the flip side, one guy left unannounced just because. Faggot probably thought he could get into a better club.
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Thoughts on human women?
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>>720772206
>Build a miler Rudolf so I can keep farming fans while still having a mile runner for CM
The perfect crime.
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>>720772272
Weird fetish
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>>720771947
>>720771969
Thats fair, thanks
I realize after two cups that there's some fucked up variance in these races and i guess im making my bias get the better of me over the second one, which was newer, and snagged me 4 wins in an initial set of 5 then wiped out on the next set...
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>>720772272
YOU WILL NEVER BE HUMAN
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The game as it stands is a fucking horrid experience. They're gonna need to double carat rewards to even come close to keeping a global population going.
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>>720772176
>cancer is brutally difficult
how? this is by far the easiest cup to build towards
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Which uma would fare best in Queen of /v/?
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>>720772156
I want more umas with a history of failure instead of us picking them up before their career even starts.
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>>720772176
>Cancer is brutally difficult
Cancer seems easier to train for unless you're going frontrunners. Yeah front runners are hard, especially with how little time we've got with a CM every two weeks and nips had a month in between each one. Very little time to relax or work on team trials uma, it's a serious grind.

>impossible for f2ps
now you're coping. Speed and power are easy to train just with speed cards alone. Train up a late surger like grass/vodka or a pace like El Pasa and you'll do fine. Gemini was the hard one, training stamina is a bitch. Training speed and power go hand in hand. Just pick a fuck ton of acceleration abilities, get your wit up a little higher than normal, and watch em go. I'd say right now the trickiest part is getting mile sparks, as there's not as many as medium/long and so it's a bit tricky to get what you want, double so for front runners. Don't bother with front runners if you feel it's impossible, focus on easier styles.
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>>720772307
I've been using a Mile spark borrow for the longest time when I was farming sparks with Rudolf to make the stupid G3 race early on easier, and to get the ability to click some of the mile G1s sometimes for potential extra affinity. I never got Mile S even a single time, and that was over at least 30 careers.
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>>720772364
The lack of carats doesn't bother me nearly as much as the insane grind that's required every single CM. I don't know how much of a difference the spark changes that JP has will make but I want them sooner rather than later.
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>>720772393
I just hope THAT gold ship doesn't win
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>>720772403
if you mean the actual Qo/v/ then none because
>gacha
and usual Qo/v/ shittery but based on earlier winners it's either a titty monster like shuttle or the flattest loli like flower
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>>720772353
Also notice the one with spurt has the highest wit. That's actally pretty important this race when it affects your skill activation. Lower wit means more of a chance that your heal doesn't activate and that can fuck you. Spurt + higher wit golshi is the way to go
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Der/v/ bros... I think we've plateaud.
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>>720772496
S rank in general is a pain in the ass to reach. I hate it.
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They're cute together.
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>>720772393
the chud
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>>720772629
>cute
The word I'd rather use starts with "s" and ends with "ex"
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>>720772436
NTA but I feel that CM3 is going to more difficult to win because training is easier and front runners are OP as fuck.
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>>720772578
Wait until month reset. That took /v/ma from 800ish to 500-600s. A lot of clubs disband so just hold strong.
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>>720772756
Difficult to win maybe, but it's certainly easier to train for and that's my whole point. The grind is less painful UNLESS you're trying to make front runners w/ groundwork which is a pain in the ass. Wish I fucking had Seiun Sky right now that bitch...
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>>720772756
>front runners are OP as fuck
there can always be upsets though, it's all about the team composition this time around
earlier today we had a race with full teams and an unoptimized El Condor Pasa managed to beat an almost perfect seiun sky that had used her unique
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>>720772734
Why would you compare them to a waterproof plastic explosive?
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>>720764728
>sit through 15 losses and 15 loading screens for 45 carats
Thanks for the regular consolation prizes, I guess. Almost makes the knowledge that I can't build a team worth a damn outside of team trials bearable.
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>Raise horse
>No groundwork
>Send to the glue factory
>Raise horse
>No groundwork
>Send to the glue factory
>Raise horse
>No groundwork
>Send to the glue factory
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Is it not easier to make a Block-ushin plus some late surgers versus a triple front setup?
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>>720772629
Marvelous Sunday HARD carrying the cuteness though
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>>720772953
>cuteness
be honest, the only reason you even care about her character is the gigantic tits
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>>720772156
Nice Nature's career is excellent from start to finish but makes absolutely no sense if you're even slightly good at the game.

The narrative very clearly seems to be written around you just barely scraping through her career, getting 3rd place finishes until the final parts where you finally put things together and win.

But, if you're even slightly good, you're getting 1st places all through her career and she's lamenting about being a forgettable, failing, mob character while having more G1 wins than Kitasan Black.

It's even funnier if you do the side races. Like, normally I'd say you can't consider the side races canon, but she has extra scenes after the Satsuki Sho and the Derby with Teio and then another one after the Kikua Sho. So you've turned Nice Nature into a legendary, Triple Crown Emperor... and she finishes each scene going on about how she can't compare to someone like Teio, or how Teio was so much more impressive than her for battling on despite breaking her leg.

Can you really consider Nice Nature a plucky underdog when she's got 11 G1 Wins and two Triple Crowns? The game certainly seems to think so. It's a shame there's no option to go do that Arc d'Triumph race. I would have loved to see Nice Nature win that one and then explain how she's in Teio's shadow because Teio won the Derby really convincingly.

I absolutely love her reaction when she gets 1st (or even second) on the raffle. She's got such nice rapport with all the shopkeepers. Of any Uma, she truly feels like the one that would be the best to marry and have children with. She's just really stable and really warm.

Oh and her victory pose is adorable too. Like she can't believe it, but is overjoyed while trying to stay calm.
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>>720772836
I t hink a good Grass Wonder or El Pasa have a great chance of winning, don't sleep on those two.
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>>720772907
it's easier to build an actual Ace front runner than it is to make a blockushin, that strat reads like a psyop just like urara was
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>>720772907
>Block-ushin
So what's the idea behind this one?
I've heard that you run a bakushin up front and it supposedly blocks the other front runners...but how do you guarantee that the other front runners don't get in front of her?

And what if there's no front runners? then it's a waste of a slot...
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>>720773019
I couldnt do this with Rudolf after several tries
Very first run with Natie? Cinch
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>>720773019
>Can you really consider Nice Nature a plucky underdog when she's got 11 G1 Wins and two Triple Crowns?
sounds like the average gacha player that drops enough for a down payment on a house then goes on and on about how they're F2P, how they can't compare against whales and how their humble team is gonna go whale hunting
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>>720772836
Wtf I probably missed that when I was at work, do you happen to have the build?
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>>720772156
They really made a good endearing story with frankly very little
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>>720773084
>that strat reads like a psyop just like urara was
I find it strange how the same people pushing this bakushin "strat" are trying to memoryhole Front Runner Urara being entirely useless for Gemini cup. Is it genuinely just people taking the word for youtubers even if they were giving out shit advice last time?
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>>720772176
>, but now you need a good power, good wit horse with groundwork, mile S, accel skills. This is more or less impossible for f2ps.
If I've learned anything from the Gemini cup, you don't need any of that. The game isn't anywhere near as optimised and most people who play it are retarded anyway.

Just build 2-3 good front runners and you'll be fine. And it's a hell of a lot easier to build for Speed+Power than for Speed+Stamina.

I absolutely couldn't hit the 1000Speed+Stamina mark people were talking about, with my cards it simply wasn't possible. And yet I've still done fine. 1200 Speed and then as much Wit and Power as you can? That's easy. It's super easy.

My only question is if I'm gonna run a debuffer or 3 Aces.
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if i'm farming for white skill sparks should i not learn any other skills besides the ones i want?
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>>720773251
You'll absolutely need groundwork. You can put off the groundwork farming, try to get it off borrows or just don't use groundwork but Groundwork remains core to all front runners forever and it's better to run the other three strats if you don't want to do the groundwork farming.
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So what's the best source for groundwork? Should I just spend my time building up a good Seiun Sky parent?
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>>720772393
Spechud is the face of the game and thus the face of /v/

>But nobody likes her
>Nobody likes /v/ either
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>>720772578
As long as we ended up on A, I'll take it. CM3 preparation will tank the fans gained anyway unless some do sweaty 700-800k runs on Maru/El/Oguri
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>>720773251
Thing is you're comparing apples with oranges here. A good golshi is much easier to build than a good front runner, and front runners are a type of glass cannon. Yeah a "good" one has a chance, but if they lose the lead once in the race they're screwed. A golshi only needs to barrel in from the back. I've tried running just "good enough" front runners and they always fall short in the final stretch. You want Seiun Sky's unique, if nothing else.
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>>720772436
Why are front runners harder to train?
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I don't know why people give youtubers shit when we have braindead retards like this one that give advice worse than youtubers.
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>>720773363
inheriting from a parent +
Air Grooves SR is the easiest source
Next is Oguri Strength card (R or borrow SSR)
last is golshi's SSR, but very unreliable because she has like 20 skills you can inherit. Groove is the easiest since she only has six.

Having a borrow that has ground work makes it a lot easier to get groundwork on your own trainee, but groove is the best way to get it otherwise. I do both + oguri.
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>>720773129
Give her a shit ton of Power+Wit (to proc skills that make you stay #1)
She stays at #1 position the entire race right until the end of the final corner before last stretch, which is when Speed actually matters
This fucks with Seiun's ult because she needs to be #1 right at the final corner to activate.
Once they enter last stretch, Bakushin fucking dies and the other runners can continue but Seiun will never activate her ult
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>>720773151
She's just that good
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>>720773507
Was or was not the Urara strategy a complete waste of a slot?
It literally didn't do anything in the Gemini cup.
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>>720773507
I remember this retard. The dude who wanted to act all smug but ended up having a meltdown with the entire thread calling him a retarded cunt that doesn't even know how the game works.
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>>720773205
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Testing taishin out in random races. Seems like she truly can finally shine in this track. I'm thinking blockushin, and taishin with grass as a backup option.
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>>720773582
>>Give her a shit ton of Power+Wit (to proc skills that make you stay #1)
Okay but how can you ensure she gets in front of the Suzuka with Max Speed, Mile S, max power, and high wit? How do you ensure bakushin gets ahead of the good front runners, that's what I'm not understanding here.
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>>720773646
Ironically, I won more when everyone was bringing Urara in round 1 with Taishin than I did in round 2 when no one brought her.
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>Got into B league finals due to Winning Ticket
I know its's B league but she seems pretty winning to me.
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>>720773682
Angling and scheming is a weird choice with E in front but appreciate it anon.
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>>720772953
I HATE her hair saddles.
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>>720772856
>He didn't luckshit his way to victory
Weak.
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>>720773670
I think people have a right to be skeptical over these kinds of strategies that are tailored to combatting one specific thing you aren't even guaranteed to run into, and if Bakushin can't get ahead of the other front runners, then it's not gonna work as intended either. Seems like a gamble is all, and you might just be better off making something that can actually win? That's what I would tell the people who fell for the "Urara debuffer" strat, because that definitely seemed like a total waste of time. I'm not sure where people are even getting these strategies from, but some are giving out some really bad advice.
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>>720773713
Speed along mile S only matter on the final stretch. The wit that matters along with mid skill races to propel her forward. Blockushin points to hope that she reign on 2/3 of the races to cancel seuin ult on the final 1/3. Whatever happen on the late race doesn't matter for blockushin herself.
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>>720773925
How do you guarantee Bakushin gets in front of the other front runners? That's what I'm not getting here. Like explain it to me as someone who wants to run the strat. How do I make sure my Bakushin with max power can get in front of a Suzuka with max power. What abilities do I need to run? Does she also need groundwork?
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>>720773913
>>720773646
>muh urara!!!!
lmao the retarded cunt is still here
hahahahahahahaha
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>>720773892
>Group B
Oh nonono...
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>>720773410
>A good golshi is much easier to build than a good front runner, and front runners are a type of glass cannon.
That's absolutely not the case, like, that's crazy.

To build a good Goldshi you need Speed and Stamina, which means you need either an extremely strong card deck, or you need a lot of luck, or both. My deck was completely unable to get to 1k/1k, let alone 1.2k/1k or anything else, and I've seen people mocking Goldshi that had those stats but didn't have enough Wit or Power. That's extremely hard to build.

Meanwhile, for Front Runner Mile you just spam Speed training until cap and you'll get 60-80% of your Power requirements just from that. Add a you'll get 400 Wit and Stamina without having to do anything so just add a little more Wit on and you're golden.

The only hard part is gonna be the people killing themselves to get the absolutely prefect(until it turns out they got gaslit by YouTubers again) skills and that stupid hit 600 Guts idea.
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>>720764889
you're our bitch you fucking bitch
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>>720773019
Anon, Neicha is a woman. They are all baffingly insecure and weird.
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Front or pace if I'm gonna cope with an ace daiwa?
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>>720774012
Power is what gets her there. Speed as a stat is irrelevant for 66% of the race.
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>>720774012
>guarantee
There's no guarantee in this RNG bullshit. You high power to accelerate out of the gate to gain pole position and maintain that position with high wit along with mid skill races until the final leg. By the time final leg appear. It doesn't matter what happen to bakushin if she dies on pole position because Seuin ult's proc condition already canceled which is being the #1 on the final leg.
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>>720773689
Yeah, that's the two strategies you have for this cup.

You can run 3 frontrunners so they all push each other and leave the competition in the dust which is extremely strong but all 3 of your frontrunners need very high investment. It's a very expensive strategy but it's also very rewarding.

Alternatively, you can build a Blocker plus two late/end horses. This strategy is a lot easier to build but it's based on gambling and RNG. The most accessible blocker is Bakushin but you can run other blockers like Smart Falcon, Daiwa Scarlet or McQueen so they block the fronts and prevent them from activating Seiun so your late/end closers can accelerate and steal the win from under their noses.
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>>720773019
>Of any Uma, she truly feels like the one that would be the best to marry and have children with. She's just really stable and really warm
thanks for reminding me
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>>720774072
Front runners need groundwork though, that's what makes them annoying, and to get ground work to go off, it's trickier. They're much more susceptible to a late start. So you need abilities like focus/concentration as well. If they lose the lead once, they're screwed. That's the problem with front runners. Training stamina is a pain, but there's not many abilities golshi relies on that you can't get from borrowing MLB creek and buying Golshi's potential 5 for a long race to get your two gold heals. To build up an optimal front runner, you gotta go down the groundwork pipeline.
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>>720773802
it's in case she surges up earlier than expected
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>>720774173
>>720774193

>>Power is what gets her there.
Assuming both Suzuka and Bakushin have 1200 power. How do you guarantee that Bakushin gets in front of Suzuka?
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>>720774012
>Does she also need groundwork?
You still want groundwork for acceleration, yes.
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we had a blockushin on that same race and she didn't block anyone btw
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>>720773507
>we're seeing so many golshis that don't even have spurt
We?
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>>720774338
My question is if a Bakushin is up against a max power Suzuka that has groundwork, wouldn't that Bakushin also need groundwork and the green abilities to proc it to get ahead?
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>>720774324
That's the neat part.
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>>720773913
Urara counters Taishin which not everyone has. Bakushin blocker will counter front runners of which every single person will be running front runners because of Sky and because it is a fucking mile race.
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>>720774324
First point, there's no guarantee. 2nd, gamble on higher wit will gives you higher lane speed to allow blockushin push forward. Bakushin has int bonus on train to help her with that.
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>>720774396
It's some literal retard having a meltdown about the blocker strat. He's still at it in this thread too because he can't admit that he was wrong.
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>>720774412
yeah it's why it's kinda redundant to build a blockushin when building a proper ace is just as hard, hence why people are skeptical
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>>720774168
Front, pace sucks for cm3
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>>720774026
Not even Shiraoki-sama has enough luck to help me that much
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>>720774441
Urara only "counters" Taishin if she takes Sleeping Lion and not, say Cooldown or Swinging Maestro.
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>>720774396
I'm in A class and you'd be surprised how many people's Golshis actually had straightaway spurt. In fact many people here couldn't get a golshi with spurt, even some top players in the club I'm in. Not everyone could get it.
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>Tokai Teio beat McQueen in her own legend race
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>>720774072
I would say the hard part is that you can't have an advantage based on good runs. If you get a 1200 power and speed uma with S Mile, you're basically on even ground with everyone else. The advantage is based on who you have rather than the run itself. No Seiun Sky? No Suzuka? No whoever else is 3* and good? You're at a disadvantage, unlike Taurus and Gemini in which everyone has Gold Ship and Nice Nature.
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>>720774507
Urara counters an extremely niche but decent strat. Bakushin counters the best and most common strat, only a fucking moron would think they are comparable.
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>>720772850
go home, fine motion
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>>720774441
>Urara counters Taishin
Does she really?

>>720774448
This sounds like a huge gamble and doesn't account for frontrunners with groundwork.
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I'm still in the Gemini mines, almost everyone had left but me. They are going to give 2 weeks for Cancer as well aren't they?
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>>720774602
Finale is a crapshoot 1 off race.
Just use the same umas that got you there.
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Here's some other useful information in case anyone wants to discuss strategies and not argue with some autistic sperg still crying about the blocker strat.
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>>720774602
Don't you have like 10 hours until your horses are locked in? How are you still in the mines?
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3 Ace for Cancer or bring Nature to debuff?
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>>720774441
thing is that blockushin is extremely inconsistent and won't work most of the time, you niggas keep selling her as the perfect counter that will shut down any front runner and in practice she will just block your late surgers
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I got incredibly close to this hypothetical suzuka in my best run, would this be enough to guarantee winning finals?
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>>720774632
That's a cute tier list.
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>>720774542
>Teio? Leave her to me.
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>>720764728
I'll wait my 3rd place finish.
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I feel like a witlet when it comes to comprehending this Groundwork Frontrunner strategy
You focus all your energy farming up Groundwork stars but that's just the first part. Are you also supposed to pray a certain subset of early-race skills are available to you in each run as well? You aren't seriously expected to have stars for Groundwork AND those other skills as well are you??
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>>720772156
What I like most about Suzuka is that she's very selfish, not in an antisocial way but in terms of her goals, and her development is that she begins to include you in her desires.
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>>720774673
You could have a S+ horse with 1200 across the board and you still wouldn't be guaranteed a finals win.
You'd most likely be guaranteed getting into finals though, yes.
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>>720774673
Ideally you'd want to account for awful mood so I think you need like 637 stam and 337 guts or something
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>>720774723
>Are you also supposed to pray a certain subset of early-race skills are available to you in each run as well?
Green skills always activate at the start of the match, so you make sure you have wet conditiosn/spring runner etc. Focus/concentration can also count as one, but it's wit dependent, as is groundwork itself. This is why higher wit is recommended. You need those skills to activate, but the green ones are guaranteed at least, so you breed those in as well or get them from g-1 races
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Gentlemen, I have an announcement....
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>>720772391
Not really.
People already know their shit. Sorry to break your bubble but the reason why you could compete so far as f2p is because most people are dogshit at the game or were gaslit by youtubers, who were outed as frauds except for witjap.
>>720772436
What the fuck are you talking about? Every retard could make a half competitive Golshi with a mcqueen card even, not to mention the stars. Gemini had so much misinformation its insane, including the numbers, and people fell for numerous meme advices. Power cards are universally dogshit which makes the process even worse, also you need a generous amount of wit, because you'll definitely need accel skills.
>>720772756
First people are now more informed and don't have bricked stats to listen to. The ultracausals already quit too, because taurus buckbroke them, and gemini will too. The problem here is you need to train grandparents, for the event, then parents, then your ace. There are so many things what need to be right, that you need to grind even with a whale deck. Making a good front runner with all those little things requires a good amount of luck.
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>>720774579
Who says blockushin doesn't need the groundwork? It's only the way of debuffing because nothing checks seiun sky except of your own front runner.
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>>720774719
Same, I'm still banking on luckshitting a win with a Goldship who will barely scrape a win if she activates both her gold recovieries AND if there isn't more than 1 debuffer. I'm happy with bronze though, I barely prepped for this CM at all.
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>>720774629
>>720774639
I'M MINING FOR A NEW PACE CHASEEEER, I'M A DWARF AND I'M DIGGING A HOLE.

I'M THE ONLY ONE STILL DOWN HERE
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How did you guys get hypnotized into enjoying pvp in gacha games.
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>>720774665
Murmur only works on medium
And its a bit harder to cripple stamina with all-seeing eyes the shorter a track is
Might as well gamba with the Blockushin meme and seat all your debuffs on her as well
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>>720774723
You're expected to put Groundwork on all your frontrunners going forward until EoS. They add a lot of QoL that makes doing this easier and there's future horses that literally come with Groundwork in their base kit but yes, frontrunners are an expensive strategy if you want to run them.

If you want something less sweaty then train a Taishin and Grass Wonder for your aces. Last slot should be a blocker or hope someone else built the blocker and do a gold ship in there instead.
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>>720774834
I enjoy legacy autism.
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>>720774725
Yeah, all she wants is a world and view all to herself. And so at the end when she changes that to include you, it's really nice.

I liked that she resolved herself to crushing others dreams by believing in herself as a rival or "guiding light" for them too. Was funny and sad when Air Groove felt insecure about her and said Suzuka had taken her spot as Empress. But that's how it goes.
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>>720774723
>You aren't seriously expected to have stars for Groundwork AND those other skills as well are you??
Xdd
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>>720774412
Yes, but it's also easier to achieve 1200 Power + Wit with Groundwork than 1200 speed+1200 power with groundwork.
It's just a gambling strategy if you don't want to try to hard or if you just want to build 2 Aces. Just mind that you can't build Front runners because she will block your own strategy, you will have to rely on late surgers to win. Which is another gamble.
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>>720774805
I thought the whole point of blockushin was that it would be an "easy" debuffer to make as opposed to making a front runner that has ground work. Seems a bit self defeating
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>>720774709
Can't believe thousands of people are cheering on abusing your child like this
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>>720774673
There's no such thing as an uma that can guaranteed win finals. You can get into finals with a broken ace and still lose to sheer luck if she gets blocked, doesn't activate her skills when she should, etc. The best you can do is building an ace that can get your team to the finals, and then has the capability to win.

But all bets are off once you're actually there.
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>>720774834
How does anyone get hypnotized into playing any game? It's fun
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>>720774802
D... D-Da... Dah... D-D-Dah... DAH-
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>>720774834
I need carats
Winning pvp gives me more carats than I'd get in a month of dailies.
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>>720774834
the real money starts rolling in once people start whaling to outcompete each other
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>>720774831
Don't worry, I'm about to use my last daily run for Taishin. You're not the only one still stuck.
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>>720774834
I like watching my girls that I've spent hours working on racing. It fills me with a tangible sense of pride and emotion watching my hard work pay off or get stomped into the ground.
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>>720774834
Personally I enjoy the training sim autism. However I won't lie, if this game wasn't a gacha I'd be way more addicted. The gacha takes ir from an 8 to me to a 5-6
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>>720774803
People like you put way too much effort into this stuff and then baffle when you get burned out.

You don't need any of that. I'll win just fine with my suboptimal Umas when it turns out (once again) that the skills you mention aren't as good as you think, the stat requirements are wrong, and your Bakushin only blocked yourself.
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>>720774834
I won Taurus so now I'm commited to making my dear girls win again
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>>720775095
ok, that's cool, you do you.
just don't have an autistic fit about blockers or groundwork when others are trying to optimize and maximize their chances
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>>720774929
Groundwork is only beatable with your own groundwork with how easy to pump power here. So either make a proper ace or blockushin.
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>>720775127
I lost Taurus but only because my Daiwa didn't get chosen to be an honorary front runner between her and a Tachyon, so now I'm committed to an arc of revenge.
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>>720774632
Im going all in on lates
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>>720774739
Thanks for the advice. This was the attempt in question, I know for a fact if she didn't fail three fucking trainings and I got the correct green hints I could've done it, it stung the worst that I ended the run with like 100 wasted skill points. Tested her once in a room and she came fifth so you can imagine i was disappointed. Just gonna keep trying, I know my deck and breeding program is strong. Just have to keep going until RNG lines up
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>>720774739
Aren't moods fixed at great going forward?
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>>720774929
It's easier to build blockushin relative to a real front runner ace. You don't need to care about inheriting the right uniques, the stats are less stringent because witmaxxing is easier than training speed, you're using a character that literally everyone starts the game with, etc.
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>>720774739
627, 314 guts I believe
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>>720775127
I still find it funny how so many people missed out on the Taurus titles just because they didn't win.
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>>720764728
I was super busy these past two weeks so I barely put enough effort in. I'm a bit dissapointed cause with just a bit of dedication I was able to train a goldship that won 3 times on it's first attempt, but I only finished training it yesterday. I probably could have done better if I had more time but thems the breaks i suppose
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>>720775274
You literally have to give her Groundwork and three greens though.
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>>720775183
I think vidya discussion in general is just extremely poisoned at this point. You can't have meta discussion or optimization discussions in any game ever without some retarded gigasperg barging in with
>ITS JUST A GAME!!! BE YOURSELF!!!
>DO WHATEVER YOU WANT!!!!
>I'M GONNA CASUAL IT AND YOU SHOULD TOO!!!
>FUCKING METAFAGS WONT EVEN HAVE FUN FOR ONCE!!!

etc etc like holy fuck I don't fucking care just let me discuss my game in peace
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>>720775304
I don't really want a title unless it's platinum anyways
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>>720775274
>>720775202

So you definitely need groundwork on bakushin. That sounds like a lot harder to make than other debuffers, I'm not gonna bother with that but thanks for explaining it.
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>>720774834
I didn't. It's the only source of carat income in this shit system.
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Do I have no chance to get into and win A finals unless I'm doing either 3 fronts or Blockushin like all of you guys? I was really looking forward to actually building umas I like without excessive spark farming and lineage creation
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>>720774834
My favorite kinds of games are optimization autism
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>>720775401

>>720774632
>>720774194
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>>720775401
>I was really looking forward to actually building umas I like without excessive spark farming and lineage creation
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>>720774834
I didn't, I already hardly do Team Trials
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>>720775332
Whining about meta is different when you're playing a team-based game like in your pic related.
Just build whichever umas you want and use whatever strateg you want, why do people get so upset over debate on strategy? Not even the "top" players agree on all the same stuff.
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>>720774834
>enjoying pvp
I'm here for a daughter raising sim
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>>720774834
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeLqdEPEQ4I
Its just like real life!
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>>720774723
Now you understand why cancer cup is so aids to deal with. Imagine having to do grandparent careers, which rely on RNG, just to be able to train a parent, then you can do your ace runs.
>>720775095
This is like IRL horse breeding selecting genes, pairing each other. Horse racing is serious business.You remind me of those faggots who refused to reroll for Kitasan, and now they are weeping because turns out a MLB Kitasan is literally the backbone of your decks.
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>>720775401
If CM practice is anything to look at you got a very strong chance to win against front runner if your uma is strong enough. There are a ton of comps that are viable. I expect to see a LOT of build diversity
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>>720775401
>Blockushin like all of you guys?
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>>720775423
same here which is why I hate the "b urself!!" cunts with all my soul
I intentionally go for the games where optimization is the name of the game. All these cunts are always preaching about "you should play however you want!" but won't let me optimize my builds in peace
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>>720774834
The stat autism tickles my funny bones
Also Idk if you ever go to cons, but it's seriously funny to be at place like an anime con and see everyone pull out their phones to do these stupid cups kek. It kinda feels like a communal thing
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>>720775401
I mean to win A final you've to be a whale for easier stat requirement to compensate shit blue for all the whites or be a sweaty fucker. You literally got to be the champion out of 11k players of pool if the indicator to be believed.
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>>720775525
>but won't let me optimize my builds in peace
Nobody is stopping you from optimizing your builds lil bro, relax. It's okay if you don't agree with an anonymous stranger all of the time
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>>720775518
CM Practice rooms are basicaly Graded A Finals simulators anyway.
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>>720775396
CM is the equivalent of a monthly pass, and that's considering you don't even piece together a less than optimal team to get into B group, you can very much keep up with just weekly teams + club rewards and the occasional event
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>>720775601
did I give you permission to speak?
If I want a retarded monkey then I'll call you, else shut the fuck up.
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>First Dirt champions meet is named Aquarius
u havin a giggle m8
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>>720775670
Oh my bad, didn't realize you were underage. As you were kiddo!
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Am I doing it right Mr Krabs?
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go time
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How's your favorite Uma doing so far?
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>Won taurus
>I think I'll win gemini
>Looks like I can't build a cancer uma worth a shit
Funny how that works
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>>720775751
Your groundwork wont activate anon...
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>>720775487
>Now you understand why cancer cup is so aids to deal with
Groundwork autism doesn't go away, it'll stay here. Forever.

They make it easier to get it later and continue to make it easier but if you're going to play frontrunners then you better get to making those Groundwork parents.
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>>720775751
>cloudy days
>sub 600 stamina
>sub 1000 power
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>>720775761
What happened to Journalism? He was favorite to win in every Crown race against Sovereignty.
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>>720775820
I had no green skills to pick so I had to improvise with the positioning ones. I think I picked enough for it to activate sometimes
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>>720775751
Could've been perfect but you got no way to reliably activate groundwork
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>>720774834
>wow, I can't believe how people get sucked into spending thousands in horse betting
>TFW watching my uma overtake a whale on the last corner of a CM race
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>>720775756
night owl before summer vacation
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>>720775761
Sovereignty is crazy strong.
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I wanna make some practice rooms, what race is the cancer cup?
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>>720775946
Victoria Mile
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>>720775946
Tokyo 1600. Good Conditions, Summer, Sunny.
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>>720775865
Not ideal anon.
An easy one to find is wet conditions. standard distance is another common one. With focus/concentration that might be enough, but you want to aim for three greens. Left handed, summer runner, sunny days (this one might be the easiest to find) you can try as well.
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do they ever update this shit so it's easier to sort and categorize your horses?
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>>720775826
The earliest horse that comes with Groundwork built in is Valentines Bourbon so if you want to have an easier time with your groundwork farming then save for her and just build your parents when she comes.
VBourbon should also come with MANT and the G1 factor rework that makes getting double circle compatibility MUCH easier too so there's no need to suffer if you don't want to.
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>Put MLB helios as my profile card
>Get four new followers
Nice
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>>720775318
Yes, so the keyword here is relative. Training barebones groundwork parents is simpler than groundwork parents with mile sparks and decent blues, and then doing runs with potentially multiple separate front runner aces until you get mile S + good stats on top of the prerequisite skill hints.

And that's assuming you actually have the notable front runner candidates to begin with, since people might be hoarding for future umas and either not have certain characters or not have the statues to upgrade 1/2* options.
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>>720775439
>>720775445
>>720775521
>>720775595
I just wanted to run a regular Bakushin (no blocking shenanigans), Vodka, then a Pace of either my gf Curren or my wife Ogurin. I'm getting my shit kicked in right :[ ?
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>>720776017
Nice!
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I listened to youtubers and metagame knowledge on the end closer spurt strat while my pace chaser long oguri kept getting 5th or lower and as such I will continue to listen to youtubers.
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>>720775465
I just need the carats for Tamamo Cross. Once I get her, I can finally relax because no one I want will be coming out after her for a long time.
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>>720776008
Holy shit those skills lmao.
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Imagine if there was a way to stop Gold Ship from activating Straightaway Spurt in Gemini Cup.
That's basically what the Bakushin strat is.
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>>720775996
I think they just add various filter instead of carrots only.
>>720776028
I mean sure, just give her groundwork and she's good to go with proper stats.
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>>720775865
Don't you START with left handed??
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Do ALL green skills fire for Groundwork even if the conditions arent met???
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>>720776060
Nobody is saying end closer spurt strat was wrong. But Taishin was nowhere near the boogieman she was cooked up to be, with Golshi being the strongest (the japanese 'tuber was the only one right about this btw, he didn't even mention urara as a viable strat either) So listen to that guy if you're gonna listen to anyone.
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>>720775850
People found out he was fake news.
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>>720776028
Go for late oguri
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>>720775401
Late surgers and end closers are viable. You don't need fronts, it's just that fronts are the most consistently good if you can actually build an optimized front team.
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>>720776089
It's not like I have Seiun, Maru, Bourbon, Suzuka. My front choices are shit, my luck is so shit
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>>720776080
In order for your Bakushin to block another front runner, it also needs to have max power and groundwork and is still a huge gamble.
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>>720776075
Mayabros get fed too but much later on. VBourbon and HMaya have a heal baked into their unique too.
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>>720776154
I thought Gold Ship was going to be stronger mainly because her training is so much better and I said that as someone with Taishin. 20% stamina and 10% power makes it so much easier to hit your stat goals compared to 10% speed and 20% Guts.
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>>720776154
The takeshi man is pretty cool. He's apologizing when he failed to reach 90% winrate in global.
>>720776221
You only need seiun rent. It's the green that are problematic to get.
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Why not frontrunner savvy for a green skill? It comes from the suzuka card which also gives left handed and a ton of front runner skills.
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>>720776209
How would that work?
>>720776216
Also I don't have Flash's SR card, how much does that limit me in terms of Late?
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Cancer cup practice, please bring your best, your worst or whoever you wanna test out! One uma per anon preferred
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>>720776151
No, because a green skill doesn't activiate if the conditions arent met. Groundwork activates after three other skills activate.

For this course: Tokyo Racecourse, Sunny Days, Left-Handed, Summer Runner, Wet Conditions, and Standard Distance are what you want. Focus/concentration will also work as a third early skill, but it's not guaranteed to work like the green skills.
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Just fuck my shit up. Cancer CM Practice. 3 umas.

90489179
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>want to use a late surger for cancer
>know I should use either vodka or Grass
>feel the insatiable urge to run King Halo instead
>all thanks to first rate posting
get me out of it bros
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>>720776340
>>720776419
>Still don't even have a parent ready for one of my front runners
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>>720771549
Her samurai spirit is strong
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>all this practice and I don't have a single workable ace
I should really get started on ol grandpa
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Does Taiki just naturally get less hints or something? Do the other horses hate her and/or jealous of her being so well endowed? I have multiple cards with increased hint frequency and I'm not getting dick for hints.
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>>720776270
Here's their uniques and swinging maestro for comparison.
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>>720776337
>no Flash
Special Week event has late savvy, wet conditions, outer swell and homestretch. a decent sub in, especially as you don't care about getting hydrate from the event this time
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>>720776448
King Halo will work, believe in her. Just max out her speed and power like you would the other and put on strong late surger abilities.
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>>720776448
Come on anon. You can make anything work.
Aren't you a first rate trainer?
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>>720776448
I'm taking Teio, because I can. If I can't win with Teio, I don't want to win.
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>>720776459
This is the best time to practice since no one has anything ready. Hell 2 of my umas there are from my Team Trials teams
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>>720776515
He Yankee-ness scares them
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Why does the 1st run you do with an uma is always the best one?
Otherwhise i cant explain myself how i pulled this out
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>>720776337
>How would that work?
Stick as many late surger skills as you can since triumphant pulse is just that good
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>>720776448
This anon WILL win finals A with king halo and prove himself as first rate, and this lucky 7 proves it!
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Also, on the topic of heals
The Fantasy Grass Wonder that comes pretty soon on global has an Unique that can be inherited and counts as almost one gold heal if you ever thought that getting heals on a horse with none was a pain in the ass.
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>>720776746
Oh nononono
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>>720776614
I literally don't have anyone to run so I can't practice.
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>>720775216
You're never gonna win trying to run a cow in an uma race.
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>Someone in my follows with Taurus Plat
>last logged in 15 days ago
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>>720776746
>6
>6
>6
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>>720776859
Maybe not but I love watching her run.
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>>720776535
I don't have that one either. I'm such a fucking loser ;____;
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>>720776419
>729 wit
>groundwork fails to proc
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>>720776419
why did curren chan do so much better than el?
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>>720776863
Gone...like white ash
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>>720776746
Why do matifucuckkektarus ALWAYS have the worst luck
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>>720776943
Umamusume is a LUCK game
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>>720776746
KWAB
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>>720776949
My guess is Long Shot and Outer Post since she triggered both
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>>720776746
AAAIIIEEEEE
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>>720776340
7/9. Starting in 5 minutes
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>>720776943
>He doesn't have 3 greens
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>>720777146
groundwork can still fail to proc, like any other ability. It is reliant on wit and RNG, but even with max wit there's always like a 12% chance of failure on an ability activating.
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>>720777064
what? we've been full for a while
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Which is the chillest /vma/ club? I'm a low earner and might need a new home next month
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>>720777224
Ah it is I who is the witlet then.
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>>720777224
>12% chance of failure
what the fuck
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>>720777227
i entered into that room shortly after that post just because i was on the race tab already
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>>720776943
>the FUCK is goin on back there??
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>>720777263
Wit has diminishing returns after 600 or so
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>>720776340
>cloudy
>firm ground instead of good
anon....
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Vodka won the Victoria Mile irl right?
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>>720777002
They spent all their luck on getting the cutest horse
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VodkaCHADS...
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>>720777412
there is no "good conditions" skill
it's wet conditions or firm, for this race you run wet becauase "good" falls under wet conditions
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>>720777251
Honestly they're all relatively chill long with the strictest being not showing signs of being dead across several days and doing the dailies (one career) if possible. But def keep alert for recruiting at the beginning month and/or put yourself out there.
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>Get Seiun
>Haven't registered for the finals yet
>Still have my 3 borrows
How is Seiun for Gemini? One of my 3 characters feels more like filler than anything and maybe I could get lucky again after pulling her
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Do you guys actually think Cancer farming is going to be more fun? The 10 billion Gold Ships I made for Gemini have left me bordering the burnout point.
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>>720777429
She got second.
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>>720777496
I rarely had Seiun win even against my B+s (although they had really good stam and golds)
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>>720776017
Careful, anon, they are probably trying to groom you due to stupid zoomzoom Helios.
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>slow metabolism won't heal after two infirmary trips
cam on mayano top lard get it together
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>>720777536
Scratch that, she won the year after.
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>>720777513
No, even moreso you're making frontrunner.
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>>720777481
alright smartass
>firm ground instead of WET GROUND
check the track on gametora and copy what you see before hosting a room. it's left-sunny-summer-good((WET))-tokyo
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>Went from getting 9th in every /v/ test room to 3rd
Damn, Groundwork really does make a huge difference.
I am now slightly less pessimistic about my chances next CM
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>I'll take King Commendation practice.
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>>720777391
>80% at 400
Oh thats actually much higher than I thought.
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>>720776340
I couldn't join but from the room's I've done, Falcon is probably the scariest to me right now.
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holy shit that was close, all the finishes in these test races have been decided by literal inches
that already makes it much better than gemini where every race had one golshi distancing everyone else
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>>720777496
Really good parent for any front, and is a good front option herself if you can get mile affinity for her.
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>>720777496
Mine has 20% winrate. She also has three greens and groundwork though, so have fun with that.
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>>720777481
>"good" falls under wet conditions
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Good umas eat their veggies.
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>>720777607
yeah i'm not even in the race i'm just saying, people get confused by the good/wet thing. Just tell them to run wet conditions, that's all they need to know. people get confused and start looking for "good conditions" when it's not a skill you can find, not realizing wet is the one they need. Stay away from firm conditions folks, just because it's "good" doesnt mean it's firm. Good is wet, firm is no good here.
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>>720777752
This Anon hates witches.
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>Got lucky and triggered lucky 7 and even groundwork
>Still almost came last
Somethings wrong with my training plan and I can't quite pinpoint what, I might have to redo the whole thing
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>>720777752
>Now everytime I see veggies I get a boner
I hate it.
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DROP ME A FUCKING FRONT SPARK YOU SHITTY FUCKING GAME I WANT TO TEST OUT FRONT EL ALREADY
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>>720777743
Sonic sez firm conditions is NO GOOD
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>>720777625
That cow blocked all the flatties with her huge breasts. It wasn't fair
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>>720777445
C-Cute...
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>>720777884
BLOCKwa scarlet is the new strat?
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Three rolls left until I can spark Seiun and I'm considering spending 7 bucks just to get this over with. I NEED her
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>>720776340
>procs straightaways, poc and its on in the middle leg
>fails the wit check on thh
damn I wonder if that's what got her the second place, everything else went as planned
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>>720777847
i legitimately would have chosen wet conditions in my ace runs if i knew that was how it worked
i thought firm and wet were special circumstances and thats why they had green skills for it but not good, which i just assumed was a 'default' condition
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It should be illegal for Umas to be this cute.
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>>720777829
Lay off the pr0n anon
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Cancer Cup is Left Handed, Summer Runner, Sunny Days, Wet Conditions (which is "Good" here, uses Wet green), Standard Distance, Tokyo
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>>720777412
I'm pretty sure I put it on good conditions not firm
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>>720777926
I need Matikanefufuckers to tell me what they see in her, she looks like a retarded gremlin that doesn't even know what sex is
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>>720778005
It's a bit weird but just remember it like firm conditions is the most common one. Then occassionally you have good, soft, and wet, which are less common but wet conditions covers all three of those. It's confusing but yeah, anything that's not firm is wet.
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>>720778049
Anon... it's Good/Sunny not Good/Cloudy
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>Goldship with mile inheritance
Why wouldn’t this work?
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>>720777926
kys slop-eater
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>>720778136
it does but it's just a worse taishin
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>>720778125
Well my apologies, i never host rooms.
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>>720778039
And inner post, but that's got like a 1/3 chance of activating. It is a speed boost though and usually cheap if you find it, so grab it if you have leftover points I guess
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>>720778136
Anything is possible if you believe in your Umas
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>front run El and Daiwa
>have a 3* speed 3* front runner Maruzensky grandparent
>rent the second grandparent that has 3* stam and 3* front runner
>do Vodka runs with those two until groundwork plus various other skills plus 3* stam plus mile/front runner
>rent out a parent that makes up the mile/front runner later
The only worry is the affinity is 52 for El with the vodka parentage line but I can't think of a combination that works with both Dawia and El.
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>>720778136
It should
I wonder if her stat growths make it harder or easier to reach targets though.
No speed, +10% power is nice, but the 20% stamina could either be entirely unnecessary or a great way to get just enough stam you need in as few turns necessary
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I was lazy so I only made B finals
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>>720778342
Better than like 70% of the playerbase
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>>720778136
Nobody in their right mind would keep training golshis after two months of non-stop golshi training
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>>720778326
Why is this game so full of jump scares?
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>>720778392
There's some crazy people out there anon.
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>>720778302
You'd probably use your sparks for speed rather than stamina hypothetically
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>>720778392
I honestly stopped after one month. But to be fair, before that it was a month and a half of non-stop Rudolf training.
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>>720778419
AAAAAAGH!
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>>720778419
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA VILLAIN
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>>720778419
MCQUEEN GET DOWN
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>Janny locked in and killed 5+ threads while also banning the OPs
>Fucked off immediately after
What was his endgame
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BUONO!
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>>720778526
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>>720778559
Hotpockets, crack and gamba
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>>720778560
Why does she buono? Is it because it kinda sounds like (ake)Bono?
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>>720778419
WTF
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>>720778115
is wet the same as sloppy in real horse racing?
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>>720778559
His mom scolded him again for screaming at the computer
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>>720778559
pls understand he got distracted erping on porn dump threads
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>>720778559
He was a janny?
his board looked like shit
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Groundwork autism is too much for me and I have seiun, I'm just gonna run condor and friends
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Are veggies good for you?
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>>720778326
AIIIIEEEEEE!
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>>720778753
Japs had one month to prepare for each CM.
We only have two weeks.

I feel like this inherently changes the meta and how people prepare for CMs in general. They will choose quicker options that are more likely to get them results. The front-runner grind is a long time dedication, not a one time thing. Don't bother unless you really wanna run them
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>>720778442
Do you think there are criminal Umas in their world? The ones who don't race but just brute force their shit into crime? Are there police Umas?
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>>720778791
Well I got a carrot right here
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>>720778815
>Don't bother unless you really wanna run them
thank you captain obvious
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>>720778791
Just because human bodies can digest vegetables just fine doesn't change the undeniable proof that we're mainly carnivore animals and that eating nothing but meat is a healthy lifestyle
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>>720778796
Which uma is this? She looks weird
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>>720778326
Why is she so adorable?
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>>720778825
>are there police Umas?
You don't want to be around when the local PD sends out the Riot Umas
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>>720778865
run them long-term I mean. It's not just a quick one and done strategy like a lot of people want. It's a long-term hustle so unless you become "the front-runner guy" dont tire yourself out. Gotta devote yourself to it, it's not a strategy you should half ass
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>>720778902
FUCK THE POLICE
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>>720778971
More like Burger King Halo. LMAO
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>>720778902
>>720778980
She's got a crazy good singing voice for a pig
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>>720778870
You'd be taking some mega shits if you only eat meat.
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>>720779007
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>>720779018
Rude
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8yOsn8D52Y
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>>720778753
I made the groundwork parents quite quickly but without my own Seiun I'd be limited by borrow slots to try ace runs so I can have her skill, while also needing to hit the mile sparks, groundwork sparks, 3 greens from sparks or hints and then getting good rainbows for the stats all in the same run. Then do it twice more for a frontline trio to maximise chances of one of them being able to use the first place skills
So I'm just doing late surgers which don't need any of that and I can make without borrow limits
I'm trying out the bakushin debuffer build with those groundwork parents for now though as I need a few more Juvy Filly sashes to pot5 Vodka and she can run that
I'm also tempted to just do El Condor Pace as well, we'll see how things look, but I'd still want Seiun skill for her so back to guest issues
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>>720779018
its actually quite fucking nuts how powerful her pipes are
https://youtu.be/-daKC9qYac0?t=561
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>>720778902
ye
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>>720779095
>>720779137
That's actually fucking crazy. She's great.
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disco elysium but protagonized by a washed up fenomeno and dream journey
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>>720779264
Yeah there's a lot of talented VAs on the cast but her range is next level, and to have that type of control over your voice is nuts.
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Very good thread in line with the comfyness from the weekend, hope we aren't stopped again tomorrow, what happened earlier was so weird
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>>720779035
Uh, what happened to her thighs?
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>>720779392
That's Rice Cake, from the anime
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>>720779137
I hate that uma's design, but that VA is sex.
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>>720779384
>hope we aren't stopped again tomorrow
/v/ictory stakes tomorrow, no-one's stopping
See you there
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I will sneak in a Naughty Nature to fuck with end closers in particular
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>want to get Vodka to potential 5 for a Cancer late surger
Uh oh.
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>>720773019
>but makes absolutely no sense if you're even slightly good at the game.
you think thats bad? at least you could make the excuse that the average player will get unlucky and get a few loses, but Haru Urara's story is a whole different beast...
her narrative is based around her NEVER winning a single race AND always going last, something that is quite literally impossible to do because it would make you fail her career
even though i like it, it always bugs me how she is treated as a really bad runner even if she are getting 5th place on every race, which doesn't really makes sense
one way to fix this would be to either change the goals for her career and make it extremely difficult or a tutorial mode of sorts where you can't lose while with added scenes acknowledging that your Haru is not losing as she is supposed to
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>>720779538
>end closers
It will be a gigablock of about 15 taishins and golshis. Im bringing something different ;)
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>>720779594
I just assume that Urara's career has a bunch of off-screen turf races that she gets destroyed in.
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>>720779472
Can only platinum winners enter?
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>>720779384
Persistence wins out, there seems to be at least some portion of moderation that thinks uma threads are fine. Just have to ride out the occasional tantrum.
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>>720779708
We're not going to get an entire room filled with plat winners, fuck off
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>>720779708
that was the idea but it's kinda impossible to do in the first race, the maya that won didn't even have platinum so it doesn't make sense to gatekeep it now
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>>720779751
Idk, we've got about half a dozen Taurus club winners in each club it seems
That being said I dont think it should be restricted, and there will be probably be a few rounds like last time
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EAT THE FUCKING VEGGIES
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>>720779713
You'd think they'd give him a wake-up call from higher up
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>>720779825
I'll do whatever I want.
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>>720779708
>>720779808
This would be extremely elitist and rude, I really hope you guys don't do this
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Unless I manage to upgrade my TT teams, I'm gonna jump between 5 and 6 tiers
Score calculation is so weird
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Good thread.
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>>720779920
Hey man, my first match back in rank got me enough points that would have kept me in class 6. I think the game is doing it on purpose at this point.
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>>720779934
Her smug aura mocks me.
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Your gemini fates are already sealed. You should be back to grinding careers already
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Gentlemen, I think we should KILL our Danchous
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>>720780050
I completely quit a run earlier when I realized I didn't have A mile aptitude and got a bad mood within the first turn. Zero fans gained, 1 borrow wasted. No regrets.
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>>720780092
t. /v/mapyoi glowie trying to stage a coup in /v/oonerzuela
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>>720780092
Can't kill a danchou who doesn't log in
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>>720779938
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT
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>>720780192
I'm impressed by you /v/ooner bros. You deserve a better danchou...but I respect your loyalty nonetheless.
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>>720780020
Unless I manage to get 10000 more points somehow, I still have one week worth of attempts and some horses that could use some training
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BR/v/TAL
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>>720780192
>/v/mapyoi
DO NOT SLANDER THE CONQUERORS. We all know the falseflagging comes from Oy Neigh
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I think danchou should execute any member who doesn't get Gemini Platinum.
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>>720780307
4 members just burned out and you're laughing
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>>720780138
Never quit. Just spam every G1 race if you don't get S aptitude, that way you at least farm fans for your club or get a decent parent.
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>>720780358
>me as a /v/ma bro
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how can i prove my loyalty and get a spot in one of the top clubs?
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>1LB SSR Nishino
>huge initial friendship, already at green in 2 turns
>Charming event
>good Pace skills
>gives Beeline Burst
Who the fuck said this was a bad card?
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>>720780050
Maybe in a couple hours. I had to go outside today and am still exhausted.
Doesn't matter WHEN I do my careers as long as I do them often enough to never have a full TP bar, right?
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>>720780358
>they figured it out
oy neigh, shut down the thread!
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>>720780050
what career
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>>720780465
I normally never do that, but sometimes you just don't have the patience for bullshit. If I had gotten a good parent with that I'd actually be pissed, but reality says I'd be getting 1 wit/guts spark.
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>>720780501
Sacrifice Happy Meek.
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>>720780501
Present danchou the head of your current club leader as an offering.
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This horse is a NIGGER
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>>720780501
...no fans?
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>>720780307
I've got a guy that hasn't logged in in about 40 days, but I won't remove him because he's got a MLB Creek as his card
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>>720780616
Yeah, mine.
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WHY DO /V/OONERS AND HORSE MD HAVE TO KEEP ON FIGHTING?
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Relationships between Human Men and Umas are FORBIDDEN! You are here at Tracen Academy to become Runners, not find your future spouse!
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>>720780791
No one's fighting bro I already gave you the dirt shoes you asked for
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>>720780742
>following multiple MLB super creeks
>always use my club bros so he gets more points
I put on for my club
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>>720780812
Finally a good one.
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>>720780820
Okay Tazuna, that means you're fair game though, right?
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>>720780820
>When you tell her you'd rather do speed training
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>>720780905
Anon, she said uma/human male relationships are forbidden.
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>>720780957
Tazuna is a horse based on Tokino Minoru
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>>720780957
Wait a minute... am I... an Uma? But I have a cock!
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>>720780957
I don't know what you're talking about. That's clearly a human woman with a hat.
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>>720781007
Meant to reply to
>>720780905
woops
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>>720781034
check again!
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>>720781189
Tell me if I'm crazy here but what are my chances if I run Suzuka, Grass, and El?

I know one front runner is bad, but there's a pretty good chance i'll run in to others. And the other two are very strong in their own right, I feel it'd be kinda balanced and their styles wouldn't clash too much
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>>720780812
:(
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I’M GONNA SAY IT!

Dahby
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Just imagine if this game had no gacha...
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>>720781354
Minutes after being booed...
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>>720781189
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>>720781430
Why is Grass so violent?
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>>720781382
>Imagine
>Mood down
>Wit down
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>>720781557
Weeaboo rage
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>Mayano parent run crashed and burned in a G2 career race
>77K fans
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>>720781382
I can. Pocket Camp was so worth 10 dollars.



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