Cry about it.
i want to see them making out sloppy style
What's the best way to juggle fleas?
WOW I JUST HECKING LOVE THESE OBTUSE PLATFORMING SECTIONS THAT I DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW IF I CAN COMPLETE WITH MY CURRENT EQUIPMENT (OR IF IT WILL LEAD TO ANY REWARD, BECAUSE HALF OF THEM DON'T EITHER)!IT SHOWS THAT THE COCKSUCKING DEVELOPERS REALLY INTENDED THIS GAME FOR HARDCORE GAMERS THAT LOVE A CHALLENGE, NOT THOSE FUCKING REDDITOID SCRUBS. THERES NOTHING MORE THAT I LOVE THAN SMASHING MY HEAD REPEATEDLY INTO CEMENT FOR NO REASON AT ALL, BECAUSE I'M A REAL GAMER.TAKE THAT, REDDITORS.
Wanderer + long claw makes me feel like i'm playing HK again
Off to horny jail for you.
>>720770714Can the fucking marketers leave /v/
>>720770856except the infinitely worse areas yeah
AAAAAAAAIIIEEEEE COGFLY-SAMA SAVE MEEEEEEEEE
>>720770876
Reminder that TC are aussies and "mate" means friend to them
Not my problem
What is the god damned gimmick with these fucking things? I've already tried the needolin and they just seize up and stutter. Please don't tell me I need the double jump to traverse here because I'm assuming it's here.
>>720770834Oops, nevermind. Switched to Shaman
>>720770836Those first 10 seconds already disqualify you from ever complaining about platforming ever again. Seriously how the fuck do you dash before jumping when that's not even what you fucking do to clear that first obstacle?
>>720770929Based loyal thread bumper.
If I could delete Wisp Thicket + Wormways so the game could release half a year earlier, I would do it in a heartbeat. Both of these places are so pointless.
How much HP does last judge have on second phase? First phase is pretty easy and I get through that in like half a minute
Can someone help with this? >>720770614
>>720771020You need to glide down and go through an area to the left halfway through the shaft.
>>720771020Float down and dodge them.
>>720770836This copypasta is already stale and it's only been 3 threads
>>720770836Will bait out at least 10 replies
>>720770963Is this the kind of people that are struggling with beastfly?
>>720771020jump off a cliff bro
>>720771075It's a very linear zone. I don't think there are any missables in there, you have to go everywhere. Just finish the journal entries I guess.
>>720770714OP is trans.
Shaman doesn't feel overpowered enough to warrant the ground heal. It's not like it makes the silk skills that much stronger
TROBBIOOOOOOOooooooo---ACK
>>720771041Wormways has blue blood Lovecraftian kino, and wasp thicket has a unique side boss + cool flame themes, neither are hard so you can't even seethe at them.
>>720771041At least wormways has the whole lifeblood infection thing, Wisp Thicket is just an useless zone altohether.
>>720771075the house is where the boss encounter is, everything else is fair game. I don't know if you can permanently miss enemies for the log, but i can confirm that the full logs get autocompleted on finishing the dream. To be safe, just get enemies until the log has one spot remaining for the boss
>>720771208First fight sucks, second fight is S tier.
>die in coral tower>surely I don't have to redo all of tha-
>>720771107>>720771120>>720771154Fuck, I'm an idiot. I thought that was a different spot I already explored.
>>720770714>fighting Seth>i'm at 1 mask and 0 silk as he reaches the second phase>cross stitch and weaver light equipped>parry him every time i get the silk, go through the entire second phase with 1 mask, fuck healing, beat himKINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>720770834>>720771025Is Shaman really the answer? I did long claw wanderer for the quick attacks
>>720771075Just get the map from outside and fill it outThere's nothing you can "miss" as there's no items in it as far as I rememberJust go through each room
>>720770714>Yuritroons trying to make these threads into a generalIt was comfy while it lasted
>>720771208
>Fight boss>Low on health>Panic scuttle to the ceiling and healAny mods to refight the bosses yet? I still don't even really know Skarsingers moveset
>>720771072it has 3 phases
>>720771238They're almost the exact same except the second one has visual diarrhea everywhere
>>720771215Doesn't it have some connection to the Grimm Troupe? It might have something going for it in DLC whenever Team Cherry decide to rehash that.
WHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING?!?!?
>>720771213>neither are hard so you can't even seethe at them.I can seethe at locations like Wisp Thicket because they were allocated development time that could've been used better in some other way, or that time could've been not used at all so the game could release earlier. Imagine if you played Hollow Knight and the City of Tears was cut in half just because the devs wanted to add more padding in the Howling Cliffs.
>>720771238They're both great, my nigga Trobbio deserves another fight in dlc.
>>720771291jej, I never tried that
>>720771041I liked wormways becoming the lifeblood area and super hidden sub areas like wisp thicket make my dick hard
>>720770714How do I go down there? How do I get that flea?
>>720771313And the second fight has amazing music.>TROOOOO BIOOOOO
>>720771323speedrunners and tryhard challengesbasically if you don't stream, this game isn't for you sweety
>>720771195And beast isn't strong enough to warrant a 2 blue slot nerf.
Kino
>>720771292Sexy slutty ant courtesan
>>720771384>downyou go up
Where the fuck is the putrefied ducts map I came from the Citadel
>>720771262Based parryslop enjoyer.
shit I beat silksongnow I'll have to go back to playing other video games againeverything else is so shitty and overpricedthis sucks man
>>720770968>>720770876
>>720771328This is the same retard logic that makes smashfags insufferable btw
>>720771238Fuck you they're both amazing fights.
>>720771292What exactly is the benefit of the scuttle dodge? What makes it better than just dashing in that direction aside from Hornet maybe having a smaller hitbox?
>>720771213>wasp thicket has a unique side bossyeah, uniquely ass
>>720771292>scuttlebraceIt doesn't look that much faster than dashing and running. Where is the value exactly?
>>720771291Merely pretending
I can't do it, I just can't play Silksong anymore with lasting pain in my hands and wrist, it's just not worth it Enjoy videogames while you can kids, it won't last forever
>>720771041Either they were lazy with wisp thicket or some dlc shenanigans are planned for it
>>720771473nothing, just another ill-designed charm they kneecapped in fear of not making anything too usefulYou can crawl up walls backwards i guess
>>720771323That's not the beast crest.
>>720771287Saar...
need to find that damn double jump
Deep in the fuckin mines here lads
>>720771578>advertising your account
>>720771552Its probably just there to link up with the grimm troupe in some way.Same way Wormways purely exists for lifeblood lore
>>720771041Wormways should have been a Blasted Steps subregion, and Wisp Thicket should have been a Greymoor subregion that connected to The Mist and Underworks. Having them be their own zones felt wrong.
>>720771428He sings this when he wakes you up, right?
>>720771653Clawline helps a ton. Use it.
>>720771576Got me
>>720771328The game is already huge as fuck, if those areas exist, it's because the devs wanted to include them, their time would not have been spent anywhere else.
>>720771473It's a smaller hitbox while on a separate cooldown from the dodge. Have not tested it much outside wanderers crest but I think it animation cancels swings too.
>>720771687No, when you go face the final boss
>>720771503the animation is peak and if you didn't use it then you did not "beat" the game.
>>720771041That's kind of a dumb mindset. There's nothing wrong with little areas like that. You're literally advocating for less content
>>720771578AGPsis...
>>720770714>>720771384there's a whole area down there that you get to through greymoor
>weavers>locks up their god in a giant superstructure>become a ruling class so tyrannical that even ages past bugs still talk about their ruthlessness>abandoned Eva and called her ‘the despised child’>were racist to Hornetwhat the fuck was their problem?
how
Is Dream Master or Lost Kin super difficult or extremely challenging? No maybe not. But you kind of need to actually learn the fights. You don't need to learn what the fuck Lace is about. you just need to learn how to evade her. Which is to just run away to the corners. Which you can easily do because you're faster than her. You don't really need to learn Karmelita. You need to learn how to jump up to the corners to heal. Which you can always do because you're faster than her. You don't need to learn the prince fights, be it the robots or not. You just need to learn how to jump up to any spot on the screen not literally outlined with the line that telegraphs where they're headed next. You don't actually need to learn First Sinner. Because you just need to learn how to jump and heal at a corner above the level of Sinner's ground sweep. Radiance is tricker than Grandmother Silk. Primarily because keeps the floor level threatened for the majority of the fight, and the knight can only heal at the floor level. Meanwhile Hornet can heal in the numerous openings that every single attack Silk does have. Dream Master and Lost Kin attack constantly. And they almost always keep the ground level threatened which hard checks your opportunities to heal outside of very specific holes in their patterns. And the knight is way fucking slower. And no. I'm not calling them some unsurmountable walls or anything. But that's kind of the point. Silksong is lacking in challenge. Quite a lot. Silksong has more engaging fights, but if you engage you'll notice that the difficulty is lower. They're fun fights but they are easier. And I wish they were harder.
Silksong was the only new game I was interested in and excited for and once I'm done with there's nothing on the horizon for me because Ace Combat 8 and Witcher 4 are still years away, I don't know what I'm going to play.
>>720771548you should try working out more if you haven't alreadymaybe it helpmaybe it won'tetiher way
>finally get map markers for shit again in act 3>they are completely useless because the way to get to the markers is always the least sensible route that does not logically connect to anything close by the marker at allHow did team cherry get so much worse at designing a metroidvania map over time?
>>720771810Jump good
>>720771242You get a shortcut once you get far enough
>>720771548back to turn based strategy games you go boomer
>>720769095I'd honestly wear this image on a t-shirt
>>720771693Could have left it at the first sentence and not sounded like a prick.
>>720771810platform on the right1. sprint jump2. hook3. double jump
>>720771797>using redditBrown-kun...
>>720771262elevated testosterone levels
>>720771876I doubt that was the intend, it was meant for people to look at every nooks and crannies
>>720771876it's so funny they don't let you draw on the map
>>720771925>using any social media everyuritroon...
>>720771876>tranimefiltered
>>720771858Wait for dlc. I was actually in act 2 of baldur's gate 3 before the game dropped, so I'll just go back to that.
I don't think I can manage this Trobbio 2 fight. My only window to deal any damage to him is pogo while he tornadoes, sometimes his crossballs just create a completely fucked up situation.
Why the fuck do that bitch ant cunt's retarded fucking spikes autocorrect.If you jumped forwards your stupid spikes should go forward, not FUCKING BACKWARD
cheeky bug... needs correction...
>>720771291Genuinely hilarious
>>720770714I would replay the came if there was an epic combat rebalance mod that makes using witches heal less autistic and makes shamans heal just the normal one
>>720771693Nah I have skill
>>720770876I am happy I grew curious enough to let the prison bug in bilewater hit me. The cages in the background made me curious. And it's a really cool prison sequence. I really enjoyed how even though you are notably weaker than normal, your mobility stayed relatively the same. That was cool.
>>720772040Clawline him.
>>720771460play hollow knight
Snitch Pick should have been a yellow tool.
>>720771464https://www.loekalization.com/blog/blog/2025/09/05/silksongs-real-final-boss-the-translator-who-broke-his-nda-and-wrote-like-a-dead-poet/
>>720771791I'll create a macro to use the scuttle by pressing Q and E on the keyboard, the L.shift+behind thing is too dumb.Yes, i do create hotkeys to avoid pressing two buttoms, and i'm aware that i did not beat the game because of that.
>>720772040nigga you crazy, just go stand next to the trapdoor every time he does it, he will either throw bombs, or jump from it. If he jumps you can hit him like 5 times, in the air then on the ground
>>720772013>he's a sharteen tooHitting all the brown checkmarks, I see.Just please don't start spamming the thread with nigger or child porn.
>>720771578>whites are cucks who like to watchYeah and that's why they're going extinct.
>Fight last judge>Die 12 times before beating it>90 sec runback, 5 sec boss roaring cutscene, 15 sec in screen transitions, 10 sec death animation each time.>total of 2 min wasted each time, 24 minutes total of un-fun garbage out of the 50 min to beat him>Look at my screen in boredom as it didn't even feel good.>Install compass always on, bonfire teleport, automap, no 2 damage, and most importantly Rebirth Anywhere mods>Game goes from a 6/10 to a 9/10
>>720771041If I could delay the game an additional two years to double the amount of act 3 content. I would have. It's still one of my most favourite games ever as is. So I'm still happy.
>>720772194Now you can't help but keep namecalling me a bunch of things just hoping that something sticks lmao. Just a reminder that lesbians do not exist.
>>720772126The fics and art about this cant come soon enough.
There really needs to be a way to refight bosses like in godhome. So many fights I want to try different builds on.
>>720771804inferiority complexall the unevolved spider enemies are just animals
>>720772252Are you 12?
>>720771431>>720771801>Hidden wall at corner of upper screenOf fucking courseThanks anons
>>720772252>no 2 damageI can excuse everything else but you (did not) "beat" the game
Why does no one talk about these fuckers? Holy shit are they annoying.
>>720772040imo he's mainly a reaction speed check so do his fight in the morning when you wake up and your sleep deprivation isn't fucking your reaction speed so hard.
>>720771428plap
>>720772348>>720772372>Baited
>>720772334Dark Souls II figure this out 11 years ago and no one replicated it ever since
>>720771876>the game shouls be so absolutely soulless that you can deduce everything from the map and by placing a markerhow about you fucking explore the place instead of being glued to your position pin
>>720772252>No 2 damageImagine being so shit that you need to only take 1 damage at all times while you heal for 3 in this game. Literally just incapable of playing the game unless you can facetank everything
>>720772348I fucking wish, fuck time
For Verdania. What do the light sources you can claim even do? Playing the Needolin shows you where the sources can be found. And then some kind of challenge is needed to claim them, be it some movement follow the path challenge, or finding buttons or a battle. And I did it. But what did that even do? Then I just found the prince and it killed the memory.
Do they actually find black sticks attractive? I don't know at least Lace shows some curves
>>720772374Because Verdania is very short.
>>720772374the shitters here haven't made it to act 3 yet
>>720772151I already beat hollow knight tho
What bug is lace supposed to be
>>720772126I fucked up and got hit by the guy while exploring, I'm glad to have went through the lewd bit
>>720771810it's supposed to be act 3 but you can do what this retard said >>720771923
>>720772374Reaper dash attack makes short work of them.>>720772334I really hope that's the first DLC instead of the last.
>>720772428The bait of a 12 year old
>>720772467getting enough of them unlocks the boss fight
just getting to the Last Judge now and wow did /v/ make a big nothing out of that runback. I haven't beaten the boss yet admittedly but the way some of the people on here were crying, i expected a runback that was on the same level as the boss itself. yes, the little ricochet attack flying things are mildly annoying, but the mini-judges aren't that hard at all. and you don't even have to fight them.>>720771858i've been alternating between this, Hell is Us and Nioh 2.
>>720772509Nothing she's not a bug
>>720772453>>720772372It was simply not fun, sorry buddy XD
>>720770714this needs an edit that adds Sherma laying on the ground looking up at them with his rosary beads spilled
>>720772493play aeterna noctis
>Someone complaining about coral tower in another thread>Expect some serious shit>One shot the entire thing boss includedKhan was easier than most act 1 bosses, whats the gimmick if you die you have to do the entire tower again or something?
>>720772516>thinks an act 2 platform bit is act 3>calls me a retard evenok
>>720772471>Me at the windowHuehuehuehue
>>720772471>Wtf, it's just a black ball with stick legs, how can the male beetle find this atteactive?
>>720772220>>720772310
>>720771460Play Nine Sols.
>>720771876Because you are supposed to logic out how you progress and that was that you just got an ability that lets you go straight up. So you look for where that can be used. The only bullshit one that I couldn't find was Nyleth. Because while the others are connected to areas that have significance to the area, hers is in the Citadel, not in Shellwood. I even saw the area I was supposed to go, I remarked about it, but I logic'd myself out of going to check it. It honestly feels like she was made last minute compared to the others. Because I found Karmelita's statue and thought it was the Ant Queen and that she would be significant and even noticed the hole in the ceiling. So I came back to that really quickly. Nyleth just stumpped me, even though I had seen the breakable wall on the way down the elevator shaft when I first went to the Underworks, even though I could see it easily connecting to Nyleth's shrine. Even though the Snails talk about how Nyleth's shrine was put close to the Citadel, I still checked the rest of Shellwood up and down for a place to use Super Jump.
>>720772471anon, they have tits and pussies. Devs cant put those in game
>>720772584If you die before reaching the shortcut you need to do the gauntlets again
>>720772619MODS
>>720772590shut up retard
What's the biggest "fuck you" in the game?
>>720772536they removed a bee that would almost always hit you which just made it feel extremely shitty and snowball into you taking more damage and getting demotivated
>>720772584only videos of epic failing please
>>720772467The Prince only spawns after getting the lights.But I fought him before getting all of them, so i don't get it. Maybe you only need the two big ones, but then what's the point of the others? Or is there a couple extra challenges just to help you?
>>720772620>all xe can do now is to spam xis tranny fanfic
>>720771460>>720772634+1 for this, its pretty great
>>720772584>whats the gimmick if you die you have to do the entire tower again or something?Nope. After you reach the top you get a shortcut to the top so that you can easily refight the boss every time. But if you dare claim that the Collosseum of Fools is more difficult than the Coral Tower. Then anons will cry because it's apparently haram to claim that Silksong is easier than Hollow Knight.
>>720771473>>720771503It doesnt drain silk, reduces your hitbox and autoclimbs walls which is faster than hopping/dashing them.This webm actually shows the hilarious value of it extremely well, despite the fact its not really useful in like 75% of situations
>>720772634Thirding this. Nine Sols is amazing.
>>720772570Everybody loves Sherma, it would make more sense to be Kratt.>>720772675When you press the taunt button.
>>720771996>>720772447Okay but look at >>720771384 the flea he is trying to get. The logical thought process is that you get there from a secret wall in the underworks, or MAYBE by going up from shellwood/bellhart. But of course that's not how this game works at all and that kind of logical thinking is just going to make you waste hours going through the same hallways again and again for no reason since the real solution isn't logical at all. That's how silksong feels, the path to somewhere is always going to be the longest and least logical route. HK did not feel like this at all.
>>720771323That's not beast...
>>720772634Better than Silksong desu
>>720772694Yep, I'll keep on posting and you'll keep on browning.
how do (you) deal with silksong fatigue?
>I know, I'll summon more addsHow'd that work out for you, dumbass?
wait wtf they changed this during a patch
>>720772471This is pure sex and I will not be convinced otherwise.
>>720772819Delusional trannies live on their pathetic fantasies.
>>720772710Colosseum is optional, Coral Tower is practically required (why would you forgo coral tower over seethe and flower crackwhore)
>>720772890They did?
>>720772876sobbing personally
>>720772634I didn't like it.It felt like 10 minutes of average gameplay, followed by 20 minutes of extremely boring dialogue all the time.
>>720772471Her magazine art at least shows some curves, so maybe just pretend thats the vision the devs wanted the other npcs to have of her in game.
Steel Soul should have a lot more exclusive content desu.
>Lol fight Trobbio again but it's EVEN harder to make out what the fuck is going on
>>720772890Changed what
>>720772620yuri game
>>720772876I started a second playthrough to refight all the bosses with different crests
>>720772312the flies bend her over a table and take turns on her
>>720771460pop lost crown shits on both 9sols and silksong
>>720772751The games shows you a quadrillion times that by going in a random direction you end up in completely unexpecred places. If you still autistically follow the map to the letter it's your fault
>>720772710>dare claim that the Collosseum of Fools is more difficultThis alone makes me believe half the people playing Silksong are secondaries, there's no way they didn't get to that walljump only section in the trials and thought Silksong is somehow harder than that.
>>720772905Hornet is canonically ugly
>>720772890What's different? I put it on prepatch and never read it again
>>720770714Am I not supposed to get verdania and kharak before act 3? I think I know where the entrances are but I can't get to them.Also, I have all the maps (besides those two areas) and now shakra just lives in bellhart, how do I progress her quest?
>>720772916And browns live pathetic realities.
>>720772940Trobbio is awesome though.
>>720772819>heh I'll keep spamming my troonshit fanfic y-you brown
>>720771428/ss/ with Sherma
>>720772963The attack speed on reaper is such a bummer
>>720772751Nuu tells you how to find the Wisp Thicket though. You'd only ever even bother to slam your head against the other walls if you paid to get the Flea marker pointed out on your map. Without that, then the game naturally nudges you in the right direction.
True Final boss spoilersLost lace losing her parry in the last phases makes the fight way easier
>>720772584His first phase should have played like his second phase, and his second phase should have been even faster. I would've LOVED this dude if he felt more like First Sinner.
Unironic question, why did GMS give Lace a giant ass and birthing hipsIt really stands out in the second fight
>>720772675Trapped bench
>>720773006>pathetic realities>says the axe wound victim turning fictional characters gay to cope with xis subhumanity
>>720773040If you're quick enough you can dodge both her types of counter attack and get 2 hits in.
>>720772181What? This complaint is just silly. Nothing in Silk Song was hard to understand because they liked to use olde english at points. Everything about how the Weavers were conquerors that treated everyone like shit is still there. The only thing hard to understand is the timeline of the events and that has more to do with the lack of clear information then weird Shakespeare shit clouding it.
>>720772948Yuri, /ss/, tentacles, maggots and ugly bastard game.
>>720773015Sherma will never fall for impious thoughts
>>720773009Tormented Trobbio is my current contender for worst boss in the game. Here is a screenshot of the fight.
There it is... :')
>>720773128>Silksong branded Sherma's cock rings
>Almost beat lost lace no hit>ruin it all to the most retarded attack physically possiblegod damn it allhttps://litter.catbox.moe/vev3cnv4sjcx5l04.mp4
this shit does so much damage
>>720773015
>>720773161dogshit taste
>>720772937But anon, that IS what Hornet looks like in game.
>>720773043Did you see the dumptruck Silk herself has? Lace is ultimately meant to be her daughter. It makes sense. Unironically.
I would like the option to change the cloak color. I think light blue or lime green Hornet would look cool.
>>720773006Idm lace x hornet cute art but I hate the dogshit story is going to make it that this is all we will likely get out of it
>>720772402fair point, I haven't had a real sleep sched since before silksong released anywaysbeen feeling like shitI am doing better now though
Got to Last Judge right before calling it a night, so I tried a few attempts. I think I lasted about 30 seconds at best.I think this might take me a while
>>720773109Are you telling me you'd read multiple text boxes of that second example and actually pay attentiont o the dialogue? I'd check the fuck out and say the writing is nothing but fluff.
>>720773012Yep
>>720773040>Jump on the wallsNow I feel retarded for not doing that for the big screenwide thing and just having to timing it
>>720773208uhhhhhhhh you go girl
>10/10 music>10/10 fights>10/10 dialogue>10/10 designhonestly my favorite character in the franchise now
>>720773109the modern audience of zoomers whom have never read don quixote are incapable of nuanced thought and get mad when they see words they've never seen before
Is there some cruel joke I'm missing in Bilewater? W-where's my bench before the wave of enemies?
>>720773042Ya, probably my favorite boss in the game.
>>720773264based
>>720773040Her void attacks leave her so open and easy to hit that the fight is actually way easier after phase 1. Reminds me of the Hollow Knight fight.
>>720772125sorry to crush your balls bro but here's the required records for actual 100%
>>720773043Better questionWhat kind of bug is Lace
>>720773264>xe copes with xis pathetic "life" through fiction where everything is gayMust be hard having autogynephilia.
>>720773237All the people putting any of the Lace fights that high faggots. The Trobbio fights are both absolutely horrendous blinding RNG shit.
The required score for flea juggling is too high.Also I hate how stuff that was optional in HK is basically mandatory in SS. Act 3 is a tedious chore.
>>720773212Shame it took like 2 years to trigger.
>>720773260First phase is easy and is there to train you on her attack tells for the 2nd phase. A defensive tool helps a lot.
>>720773380Imagine having this kind of irredeemable taste in boss fights.
>>720773306You forgot the 10/10 death animation
>>720773387Flea juggle is easy bro. >Equip reaper and longclaw>Don't jump>Dash>If the gold fleas or the fatass appear swing your sword as they are about to fall to hit them
>>720773263Depends on how engaging the story is, but nothing in the game is like that. No text box comes up with an indecipherable garble of words going "eh guvna, chuff and me on are gonna tech that Gran Marm a lesson. Wan com with?"This isn't fucking Dragon Quest after all.
>>720773254Silksong is an /ss/ game. It's right there in the name.
>>720773264How does it feel being trans?
Did I miss the last weapon oil or can you only get it at the end of act 3
>>720773370It's actually quite easy living life as a straight white male.
>>720773432>Mom this guy on the internet doesn't like my faggot emo clown boss with terrible gameplay
THERES NO PATH HERE
>>720773208nice fight
>>720773208I just use the walls to dodge that attack, it's way easier
>>720772884People complain about boss fights with adds in pretty much every thread. But I genuinely like those fights. I think the dynamics of having multiple enemies to bounce off of in your fight is rather fun. And regular enemies are also more manipulatable than the bosses typically are, which adds an interesting mechanic to the fight.
>>720773306I don't like how he gets mad at you for beating him, I liked your performance! notice me trobkun!
>>720773461I did it with shamanThe extra reach was nice
I'm getting filtered by every single fight in Act 3 bros
>>720773512Flea Festival is Act 3 only, yeah.
>>720773109Nta, but I'd say that complaint is perfectly fair. Sometimes less is more, and turning something like "No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry out in suffering." into that massive blob of prose feels tacky. I can easily see how the whole game being rewritten like that could ruin the experience.
3rd runback in bilewater. I'm done with this shit. The boss is so aids too.
>>720773512act 3 only
>>720773546For shit like that, you just gotta accept it only opens from the other side and move along
>>720773546Hmmm....
>>720773461>I beat pantheon 5 therefore pantheon 5 is easy.The flee juggle required score is too high, the other two games are remarked to be noticably easier by most. Nail upgrades shouldn't be locked behind retarded shit to begin with, but this game is like 30% retarded shit.
>>720773616>The boss is so aids too.eeeyyyy
>>720773306>10/10 fights>Literally just throws RNG bombs everywhere and covers the screen in explosions while you just have to sit there and wait for them to pass>During this time he might just sweep you and kill you with a tornado mid move too
>>720773128>Implying he'll have a choice in the matter
>want to use the hunter crest for my next playthrough>but I know that if I spend memory lockets on it, I won't unlock eva's siren song until the very end of act 3This actually annoys me.
>>720773524>straight white maleLMAO, yuritrannies pretending to be normal will never not be hilarious.
>>720771464Extremely based
>>720773651If you're comparing bouncing 30 fleas to beating pantheon I'd just quit now anon. It's really not that hard. You're just a quitter.
>>720773616He's not actually that bad once you get used to his moves. Just stay on one of the 2 sides and take pot shots when you can and when you find a bigger opening just pogo on his head repeatedly for massive damage. He has really low health to compensate for being with the mobs so taking him down doesn't take long.
>>720771291Kek thank god, I actually felt bad for killing him
>>720770836Ya I did it yesterday. I kekd how bullshit it is. I did a sprint jump for the first part and was able to figure out the movement for the bottom one.
>>720773672>rngThey all show when they're going to explode, you can safely go from explosion to explosion. It's not even hard.
>>720770714>bellybuttons
Would you have been willing to pay more than 20 bux for this? Would you have paid 30? 40, 50? Even 60?
>>720773380look we're sorry your eyesight is bad old man but don't blame the game for your own problems
What even is Eva anyway
>>720773494Well yeah, nothing in the game is like that in English. That post is talking about the Chinese localization, where it's understandable that if you want to pay attention to the story, you're going to shoot the translators in the head for translating shit in a way that's completely unnecessary.That being said I found the britishization of Dragon Quest a little charming
>>720773524You know only trannies support this ship, right?
>>720773826A failed attempt by the weavers at supplanting GMS
>>720773672You see where the bombs will come out from, you can hit them, and the trajectory is 100% consistent and predictable after seeing how they leave the ground. The lights are all 100% reactable, and the tornado has good startup and leaves plenty of time to follow up after if you dont run all the way to the corner to avoid it
>>720773794>Safely go from explosion to explosionUnless he sweeps the arena and kills youOr unless his bombs just happen to line up in such a way that you can't dodge the explosionsOr unless he does his nuclear cross attack mid bomb throw and fills the screen with white
>>720773805I paid none, and thus am enjoying my day one patch and "beating" the game.
>>720773109Nigger are you retarded?Like actually retarded?Thats the CHINESE translation you dumb faggot.Thats the reason its getting review bombed, the outsource translators went full retard
What to do with this thing
>>720773826Seems to be a failed Weaver?
>>720773805Would have easily paid 30, and honestly expected 40. Same with Hollow Knight.
>>720773694This is what happens when you kill the gods, the world falls into immoral anarchy
>>720773715Your seething will neither stop me from being being a white dude, nor stop you from being brown, but just a tip, you should go back to talking shit about the game, it's more effective.
>>720773805I'd have paid full price for this.But I'm also poor with no real income so it'd hurt real bad to do it.
>>720773524
Never trust a Snigger
>>720773916take the key back to the slab
>>720773805At most? 40 bucks.
>>720773916you got a key from it didn't you? that's all there is to itNow go use the key to open up the kino room
>>720773857Ok, I don't fucking care. Why post complaints about the Chinese localization? No one here should rightly give a shit. Honestly Team Cherry shouldn't even translate into Chinese, fuck those bugs. OHHHHHHHHHHH
>>720773916Nothing. It's just a prison bug. The same you find in the slab. Presumably it's the bug that dropped the key you picked up.
>>720773461do people really not realize that your charms are disabled during the minigames
>>720773805I might've waited for a sale or used a key site or something. $20 is what made me go ahead and buy day 1.
>>720773916It's a prison bug, basically a hint the key is for the Slab.
what does bug pussy feel like?
>>720773943>still spamming troonslop
>>720773901That never happened to me, but you can hit the bombs away. I was never in a position where there was only unavoidable damage.
>>720771804>look down on someone who's only half spider>the other half is literally a deityHow arrogant are these cunts?
>>720772183If you used a controller you could just use Steam Input.
>>720773805all the seething over minigames? priceless
>>720773805I'd pay more if there was a good new game plus or boss rush on release.
>>720773237I beat the game today and I don't know half these dudes, what the fuck man
>>720772374You can just run past them with the way Verdania is laid out and the ones in the gauntlet just get popped by threadstorm
>>720773909I ain't clicking that fucking link for an IP farmer. Screenshot has no context. Get that shit out of here. Delete the Chinese localization from the game and tell them to they will get a refund if they want. Don't need them.
>>720773972What about Nuu
>>720774106>new game plusI wish this game has NG+ but Team Cherry seems to really hate the idea with a passion.
>>720774078Like 5 times I died because he appeared directly under me and throw bombs into me anon. It is pure RNG. All the people sucking this fights cock got lucky. It's a clusterfuck.
>>720774107You didn't beat the game
>>720773972Around snails, ready your nails
>>720774159Slug larping as a snail
>game makes me upset because I find it so difficult>all I want to do is play it moreis this masochism?
>>720774073And you're still here seething, and you'll keep going forever, as you should. Shitposters are more than welcome to stay here bumping the threads all day, everyday.
>>720773943So brave AGPsis
>>720773023>Nuu tells you how to find the Wisp Thicketwhen?
>>720774079They did kind of have a bad history with their own deity.
>>720773012NTA but I do find funny you're seething at two stick bugs drawn next to each other
>>720774247>still spamming trannysloppaYou must love your headcanons.
How do I get the rest? There is no more quests anywhere
>>720774196You can see where he's going to come out of. Sorry, but it's skill issue, man.
>>720773040Holy goddamn shitter. Jump + Double Jump makes her parry whiff always in all scenarios; you really didn't catch onto this in fight 2 or 3? Jesus. They needed to make the counterhit actually unavoidable in fight 3
>>720773972i wonder why they used snails as secretive dark magick practitioners and not some other type of bug
>>720774196if I remember right he only does his bomb throw from underground right in the center of the arenayou have to avoid standing thereI kept getting hit by that shit too.
>>720771804Weavers are retarded. Herra did the right thing.
>>720774201Apparently not, soon though
>>720770714I finally beat The Judge. Secret sauce:Wanderer's crest to punish brief damage windows, bursting down with critical hits.Boomerang, my faithful bug buster and the weapon that got the killshot.Magma Bellend because this bitch is HOT!Bind Booster, because we needalotta health here when I dash into her extended hop once a fight.Anklets to increase speed and out run her hops, but also run attack is my main damage source between openings.Cold icepack to reward my tired hands from doing the same repetitive maneuvers (to traverse and to hunt).Patience. Dashing in and not being greedy with one exception Could get in 12 hits safely before phase 2 began. Last but not least the seventy attempts that were grueling on the hands because of the repetitive and more numerous runbacks, without the overhead bench available.That marks 22 hours between when I unlocked needle arts and getting into act 2. (That was attempts and scrubbing Bilewater up to the Mist, trolling for warden flies that refused to show up, and farming to max rosary necklaces before opening the gates. )Thanks for the suggestions, guys. We got her!!
>>720774080Yea, but controllers are for fags
I hate the delay for the dash attack. Half the time I'm running directly into enemies because it doesn't come out in time.
Why does it respawn at the start of the are?
>>720774334Yep.
>>720774196There's absolutely no way you don't see the floor tiles moving lmfao
>>720771804They were that up their own ass because of Silk. They thought they were divinity and then when they realize they were lied to, they decided that they were just going to double down instead of become humble.
Brown. Your skin is brown
What did Team Cherry mean by this?
>>720774414The area is randomized
>>720774348>You can see where he's gonna come out of bro lolExcept when he jumps down and then jumps back up one space later because it's also random when he jumps out. It's a shit fight, stop defending it.
>>720774414Because its randomly generated
>>720774414Cause the Mist is not actually a real area.
>>720774070wet as hell and grips hard
>>720772938yeah but instead of hard mode they just preferred to make it a shitty one life mode where everyone will just cheat to get it.
>>720774435
>>720774356I guess their shells just make for cool shaman hats
>>720774349I just wait for her to actually start the attack and then I dash from the jump. Much better for getting attacks in. I'm fairly sure her choosing which of the two is based on the distance you hit her from too. So you can easily just jump behind her if you hit her up close.
>>720774174Silksong would benefit amazingly with a mode where you start with everything, have no cutscenes, and can just tackle everything in any order you want. It's easy to see it gathering the same type of autists who do Link to the Past randomizers.
>>720774240You crave a challenge and the feeling of overcoming said challenge. It's a normal feeling, albeit not for everyone.
>>720770714any mod to patch the fixes but not the boss nerfs?
>>720774284In Act 3, and after you've completed Nuu's quest of gathering 100 hunter entries. If you talk with Nuu twice in halfway home, Nuu will give you hints on how to reach hidden enemies to complete the hunter's journal. Gives you hints on how to reach pretty much every hidden region other than Verdania and crow gang.
All right, just beat Act 3. Excellent game overall, although the last boss soured my opinion slightly. Generally speaking, though, I found most of the stuff people have complained about to be non-issues (except Groal, but I'm fine with one or two bullshit bosses). Not going to bother going for 100% completion.Would it be worth my time to play through the first game again? It's been a while since I completed it, and I feel like I didn't really absorb all of the story properly back then. I hear there are alternate endings, are they based on actual choices or more like Silksong where there's a clear true ending?
>>720774446Okay? It's one of my favorite fights, I won't change my mind just because you're bad at the game.
>>720774378It ate a line of text, a total of 70 attempts on Last Judge. I'm going to beat the game.
>>720774443>>720774452>>720774458Oh, that explains why I was seeing the same stuff over and over I thought I just had a shit sense of direction
>>720774340Explore, nigga
>>720774610At this point its pretty obviously bait
>>720774553Now lorefags would need an 1h video to come up with some theory
Why is it always depressing?
I thought I was getting heart of the wild by doing the shit in verdania, but the quest didn't update after getting the conjoined heart and the icon is still on the map. I haven't done the other ones either. am I missing something?
>>720774340Hunters journal is one. Did you leave the sprintmaster after finishing the wish?
>>720774650Me or the other guy? Idk, I just really liked Trobbio, was really sad when I killed him on my third try.
>>720774174>No way to start a new game with late game crests or toolsGame is so massive that I think either a grade shop from the tales series where you gain grade to spend on ng+ so you could start with certain tools and ect on (hopefully eventually from TC or through mods) harder game modes.Or just do the souls 2 thing where every equipment is like +1 and functions better.I just can't be assed to replay from scratch this game took me 40+ hours.
Could you heal in the air/on walls in hollow knight? I don't think you could but I don't remember anymore. Silksong felt 100x easier the second I realized I could heal in the air
>>720773237good list but wall flower is absolutely NOT below B tier; weird opinion when you put the lava charging miniboss with summons in B (which I agree with). I can't imagine a walljump-only boss being executed better than what they did with the wall flower.>>720773380her tells are so much more DISTINCT than most bosses. Come on now.>>720774107finish ur quests tab
>>720774607Hollow Knight endings are basically like Silksong's Act 2 endings. if you unlock the requirements for the true ending, then you can choose at the final fight to do one ending or the other. The only other ending in Hollow Knight is a secret one after you complete a 40 boss long gauntlet with a superboss right at the end.
>>720774714You can use that heart instead if you want.
>>720774650>It's bait to criticise a boss for having 3 screen wiping attacks that can overlap because I personally beat it first try by getting lucky
>>720774661Pac-Man Hornet.
so why did lace have a hissy fit?
>>720774452More precisely there's a pool of prebuilt rooms that get stitched together at random
>>720774750You can't. And yes, it creates a lot more openings in silksong.
>>720774378Are you the same anon from earlier? Good work. You deserve a break, I think. Enjoy the lift to the citadel!
>>720774794Her bullying was just to get some attention
>enemies attack>parry>attack doesn't reach me somehow>parry ends>enemies attack again and i get hitI fucking hate this game
>>720774752His tells don't mean shit when you are dodging 3 bombs and as they are exploding 3 more are already on the way and he is revving up a tornado that is going to force you to jump into them
>>720774787>This much seethe over being ass at the gameIt's ok man just take a break and come back later
>>720772957While she's restrained in that penintent outfit>>720770968
>>720774708Silksong is really mean-spirited and I don't like that. Not just "boohoo everyone is dying" but you have the happy and endearing characters dying miserably (bone bottom fixer) and in your case then his pet is sad about it forever.
>>720774794She thought GM Silk wanted Hornet to replace her as a daughter, instead of GM Silk just wanting to drain Hornet's Silk.
>couriers rasher
>>720771291>'twas merely an act
>>720774794She was made to be an eternal child in mind and body, as children who grew tended to rebel.
>>720774853I beat him ages ago faggot. He is a shit boss.
Is there a general on /vg/? Is there less shitposting there?
>>720774852I said her.
>>720774889Unironically not the hardest special delivery.
>>720774304It's a kino trope every time really. The mortals/subjects of a god eventually turning on their god and entrapping it for their own purposes.
>>720774728Other guy>>720774787>STUFF COMING OUT OF THE FLOOR IS LOTERALLY UNREACTABLE RNG>there is a pretty obvious tell for it>LALALALALALA ITS LITERALLY RNG BRO STOP DEFENDING IT BROYou're either baiting or you're a literal child
>>720774417She's only interested in Hornet's silk.
>>720774889I just cheat engined that shit, as easy as looking for the value as the meter has 8 pips kek
how the fuck do I get here
>>720774889Reminder that if you didn't deliver it through Wisp Thicket to Underworks you didn't beat the game.
>someone lists off a bunch of gripes about the game>agree those are all reasonable criticisms>"and that's why it's bad"It's great, though.
>>720774771what am I missing by doing that?
>>720774623Hang in there anon, you can do it
>>720774962I haven't even attempted the lacquer yet. It's so intimidating
>>720775017walk
Sequel to silksong just leakedTROBBIO'S MAJESTIC ADVENTURE (a hollow knight story)
>>720775017there's nothing there retard
>>720775017go visit the pinstress in blasted steps
>>720774794The fact that she falls apart if she isn't being actively sustained by a continued supply of fresh silk gives her great anxiety. As does the fact that her mother's previous children were discarded. And she is afraid of being discarded as well, and is afraid that Hornet would replace her. While at the same time, she feels stuck and restrained in Pharloom, stuck to perform a role in a haunted kingdom.
so i collected the cogheart, inserted that shit into the robot and now its gonedoes it do anything???
>>720774845>Barely shows up>When they do just says some bs, fights, then leaves/stays ownedHornet was a lot better as a rival ngl she at least least met you at spots for story purposes and even after fights. Lace just fucks off after the first fight and just waits at her second fight spot watching family guy funny moments eating cheetos
>>720775019>i picked the objectively worse route like a retard and I feel proud about itif you didn't deliver the courier's rather through sinners road you cheated.
>>720775069Nothing BUT you can then beat the boss you haven't beat and get that heart as a memento.
>>72077504910/10 game but it sucks ass and will get modded to fix all the problems
>>720774876>characters dying miserably (bone bottom fixer)Flick the fixer is still alive in act 3
>>720774994>If I call him a child that will mean I win heheMore than once and I will say it again, more than once, I died because his attacks were literally unavoidable due to pure RNG. He is a badly designed boss, that's the end of the matter, you lose.
How do I get further down into the vaults to reach the mask on the map? I beat Trobbio and got the Elevator behind him but it doesn’t seem to take me in the right direction.
>>720775112It'll fight random battles across the citadel now.
>>720775112You will now find him.beating the money bags enemies near the first shrine
>>720775145Sinners road is unironically easier than Blasted Steps if you aren't shit at platforming.
>>720775198I also saw them further down in the citadel a few times
>>720775143Fucking based
>>720775229No it isn't, those dogs are a pain in the ass
>>720775074unironically easy because you have wings. Nothing to get hit by on mount fay unless you are stupid about it
>>720775017Through there. A lot of these telegraphed secret zones have some really stupid roundabout ways of reaching them, yet Hunter's March is easily stumbled on by everyone while clearly telegraphing and gating your way deeper without denying you the location's entire existence.
>>720775165From Trobbio's room you have to dip down into the Underworks and come up from below and to the right.
>>720775097>it's a Tingle type of game>you go around different bug kingdoms building a troupe>lighthearted themes, but with some sparks of seriousness and dramaCould be kino.
>>720775157>he genuinely doesn't knowwhy are you in the thread bud? gave up on discovering things yourself?
>>720770714I'm most of the way through the game by now and to be entirely honest I've come to the conclusion that the shard system kinda sucks major ass. It's pretty much exclusively put in place for tools as a balancing measure but it doesn't work on either end of the spectrum. On one end, strong tools combined with a good player ends up trivializing a large chunk of bosses, largely to due Tool combos that it feels like the devs never genuinely bothered testing in earnest despite the game being in dev for 7 years (Pollip Pouch is the biggest offender, it single-handedly breaks most of the offensive Tools in the game and effectively lets you lame out a shitton of bosses and you can get it in the first Act after a couple of hours of playing)-to this end, Shards are irrelevant because you'll be swimming in them just from progressing and barely need to pay out to use your broken shit. On the other hand, if the player sucks and/or eats shit against a certain boss, they only act as a lame way to extend bosses by introducing a lame grind that you have to do if you dare use too many tools during an unsuccessful attempt.It's a non-factor for people good at the game and overly frustrating for people who suck with next to no middle ground. They should've just cut Shards, removed one red Tool slot from every Crest bar Architect, and them cut down on the amount of tools you can carry at once (especially for some of the stronger ones). You want to abuse Poisoned Cogflies? Sure, but now you can only use 2/3 of them per encounter before needing to refill at a bench.
>>720775259You can get through Sinners road without ever having to cross paths with a roach though. The first area they are down then up then down and the only other area you have to cross that has them you just have to not touch the ground.
>>720770836>wanderer's crest>wall cling toolthis might not actually be bait
Ai lailailaiPussssssshhhkadoh- uhm?
I've heard a lot of whining about the new inputs for double jump and floating. Is it really as bad as some people say? I've been putting off getting the double jump because I fear it's gonna mess up the 30+ hours of already learned inputs for floating after jumping.
>>720774174>>720774569>>720774745Surely a NG+ mod is in the works already
Reminder to all the newfags, do Mt. Fay the moment you get your harpoon. Trust me, it'll make your life a lot easier.
Well after 6 hours of trying hitless naked lace 3 i realized this might take 30+There is a point where skill ends and its just pure fucking rng. There are 2 attack combos which either 100% cheat and input read for a cheap shot or have bizarre requirement which i cant identify after watching my replays for 1h.And funnily enough that teleport which everyone complains that does 2 mask of contact dmg is 100% predictable and actually follows a simple rule, UNLIKE THE FUCKING JUMPS AND TENTACLES
>find some hidden path>check map>no map
>>720775143She definitely should have showed up just to taunt you at certain points, and should have had at least one more regular fight.
>savage beastfly has 550 hp>your needle does 5 damageso that's why it feels like there's health bloat out the ass in this gamebecause there fucking is
>>720774569I'd love to play a Silksong randomizer. That'd be fucking amazing.
>>720775485nice, sounds like the final boss is awful in every aspect imaginable
>>720774889Only part of the game I want nerfed.
>>720774605oh neatI never really talked to her at the pub again after thatI saw her in a few places around the map though
>>720775143>>720775503Doesn't even have to fight herself either, like the High Hall gauntlet? She should be there to taunt and shit.
>>720775528Upgrade your needle.
>>720775528Just use poison cogflies and architect bro, and remember, if anybody gives you shit for not really beating the game, you're still watering down their trophies.
>>720775528What lolThere's no way i had to hit it 110 times
>>720775576EXACTLY! That shit would've been perfect.
>80 hours in>just now realize you can "evolve" crestWhat the hell, I was just looking for food ingredients.
>>720775485>All the attacks that suck you in>They all go a fair bit higher than her and even go behindIt's ball torture unless you play like a monk with zen patience
>>720775345It's literally just Sekiro all over again, there's nothing wrong with the balancing, it's just designed to make people think of when to use tools, instead of spamming them, shit players if they aren't braindead will stop spamming when they first run out of shards and then try to play more conservatively, good players will still be playing by the same rules and not spam. Architect is for people who want to have fun with the tools or just cheese a fight, it has a high price, but at some point in the game, shards is all that's left to buy.
>>720775649Which ones can you evolve?
>>720774569Exactly, if there's anything the dev of Bloodstained did right, is that they added the randomizer mode themselves.
>>720770834Shaman and don't jump in the air, just stay grouded
>>720775528They thought it was boring that you can just all of HK with just the nail and no spells so they had to adjust, which is sad because i was one of those retards
>>720775576some ohohohohohos when you die would go a long way, doesnt have to be visible
>>720775143>fightsYou guys got to fight her, she just taunted me and left.
>boss secret bossfight into hardest to find area in entire game>make it so you can't fight him anymore after collecting 3 melodiesThis angers me
>>720775528>savage beastfly has 550 hp>your needle does 5 damageMaybe he drains his own hp when summoning the other bugs? This doesn't seem possible
>>720775503>>720775576It's wild considering garmond, the sentinel, and shakra all do this occasionally, so they could've tried to incorporate her more into the world with more encounters.
>>720775612If you're already in high halls then beastfly 1 is trivial for other reasons.
>>720775325No, I know. You don't, however. The fixer is alive in act 3 and the guys in Bellhart even have a delivery for the new refugee camp set up for the Bonebottom survivors in the Marrow.You're probably thinking of Pilby, who wasn't even a fixer, and who can also survive.Nice try amigo. I finished this a week ago.
>>720775160FINAL TIME you get a (You) out of me. LAST TIME! >The BALLS have a HUGE TELL in the form of FLOOR TILES SHIFTING LEFT OR RIGHT.>When the TILES STOP, the BALLS are about to POP OUT OF THE FLOOR.>ALL THREE at ONE TIME. The trajectory is CONSISTENT and EASY TO READ. >You alternatively CAN HIT THEM to REDIRECT THEM away.>Before they explode, the leave SMOKE TRAILS that LINGER LONG ENOUGH TO REACT>The COLORFUL EXPLOSIONS also have a HUGE TELL through FLOOR TILES and SMOKE>Trobbio DOES THIS EXACT SAME THING before he POPS UP>He starts his tornado WHILE HE IS FLOATING>The tornado HAS CONSIDERABLE WIND-UP and he takes a second to RECOVER, allowing you to HIT HIM>HE has very obvious tells and ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like Lost Lace, who DOES just randomly pop out of the ground like you claim he does
wow. it turns out bilewater is as bullshit as anons made it out to be.what made team cherry cook this blatant fuck you to the players?
He's just like me
>>720775742Garmond is cool. I bet DLC will allow you to play the Elegy of the Deep to duel Garmond at his youthful full power.
>>720775528Yeah, what's the source? There's something weird here, I fought him with base needle and didn't hit him nearly that many times.
>>720775782idk man maybe the stupid gimmicky clown boss doesn't land for some people
Lace appears for like 2 minutes in total in this game, and almost 0 lore or NPCS mention her. Sorry Team Cherry but I just don't give a shit about Lace. Imagine if Hollow Knight culminated in an ending about saving Tiso or some shit, that's what this feels like.
how different do you think pharloom would be if PK was there instead of silk
>>720774378Another Wanderer. This one goes out to you, bud.https://share.google/YLEfdDkModxn2xlxl>>720774623We're all gonna make it.
>>720775706only the first crest evolves two times total
>>720774569HK randomizer was very popular. I have to imagine Silksong's will be too. >>720775706hoonter
>all these people talking about act 3>noone actually talking about the storythat's how you know it's shit lol
Has the dust settled on a consensus for this game as to whether it lives up to / is better than the original?
>>720775552its not, im strictly talking hitless, if i were to actually finish those shitty runs and play properly with tools, passives and heal i beat her 99 out of 100 times
>>720775782>Dude I know he's literally filling the screen with explosions making it so if you move at all in any direction you will take massive damage, but you can totally see where his attacks are going!
so what the fuck is point of the long jump is there anything other than that crystal cave in Celeste that needs it?
>>720773712Why is the hunter crest excluded? That's so dumb.
>>720775528>actually watch a video of someone fighting savage beastly with no needle upgrades>70 needle hits (give or take a couple, i lost count at one point)it's not 110 but goddamn
>>720774876The bone bottom fixer doesn't die, you're thinking of pilby and he can live if you save bone tyrant for act 2you can also save the gambling guy in blasted steps. Sounds like you're just not very good at saving people.
>>720775925>sequel to the awesome lore game both filters out all the story enjoyers and has no lorekino, er I mean ludo
just two more spools.....
>>720775863Hornet doesn't care much about Lace either.
>>720775926It's really good, but it does have some issues that probably make it worse than OG Hollow Knight. I'd still wait and see what the DLC have in store before coming to any conclusions.
>>720773972life is simply unfair, isn't it?
>>720776027Spool sounds like a racial slur that could be used for Weavers. Fucking spools.
>>720776002>you can also save the gambling guy in blasted stepsWhat the fuck? No way.
>>720775926Mechanically it's way better. In other aspects it's not as compelling, it's too messy and seems to force certain gimmicks purely because they appear elsewhere in the genre, not because they fit well with the game.
>>720775863>Hornet appears to fight you>appears once to say two lines of dialogue at you>You fight her again>she has 4 more lines of dialogue when you kill her mom and talk to her before final boss>the rest of the info on her is found written in random shitAm I going insane or is Lace literally the same as Hornet? Why is there an insane anti Lace schizo shitposting these threads?
>>720776090
>>720774378>We got her!!My face when
>>720775815I don't know. But enjoy backtracking through the muck about four or more times.
>>720775926I didn't put 60 hours into the original.
>>720775702>it's just designed to make people think of when to use tools, instead of spamming themBut it fails at this because the stronger tools can be spammed to lame out bosses with next to no consequences. If you lose once or twice big whoops, you should be swimming in shards anyways, a good player will have won by the third or fourth attempts and is now working on replenishing their reserves merely by progressing. The point with bad players also doesn't really land because they're just as likely to avoid using tools period until they've "learned" a boss, at which point they either bat it tool-less which teaches them to ignore a major mechanic in the game or future encounters if they don't want to bother grinding, or literally just transfer them into the "good player" group with the issues that entails. The Shard-Tool relationship isn't a bad concept but in practice it fucking blows because the balancing isn't there to make is a proper limit for the people who actually learn the system's intricacies.
>>720776116Because old good, new bad even if old did the exact same thing as new
>>720776067She does, even already after their second fight, Hornet says that Lance's life was true even if Lace herself didn't believe in it, Hornet is guarded, but not cold.
i'm deep in act 2 and bored of reaper after using it for 25 hours now, where the hell can i find another crest?
The High Halls gauntlet can go fuck itself
>>720775815Because of the blood oath signed by Miyazaki decades ago that says every game needs a fucking awful poison swamp or sewer level that is ugly and isn't fun.
>>720775815Every game needs a "fuck you" kind of area tbqhwy.
>>720776264Lmao it's never gonna happen my man
>>720776264>not prepping like Batman for that shit.
>>720776264The trick is to wall jump in the top right. There is a spot that big guys can't reach.
>>720775926Easily better than the Original Hollow Knight. Hollow Knight lives in a special emotional place for some people, but Silksong objectively plays better and is more creative with it's enemy and level design
>>720775926For me it's just a better Hollow Knight in everyway
>>720775926i thought it was better until i reached the end of act 2.>lace rematch is a nothingburger, she jobs and you're expected to feel bad for the character that's had literally two short scenes with zero real characterization in the entire game up to this point>grandma is a nothingburger with jackshit for buildup that can't even touch the moment you walk into that room in black egg temple and see "the hollow knight" pop up on screenact 3 being so all-around shit solidified the game as being worse than hollow knight. the abyss and white palace and shit for HK's true ending were kino, the only good part of act 3 is red memory and it's not even an actual area it's just memberberries from hollow knight and hornet lore
>>720775926Gameplay better, balancing worseStory way worseLore way worseExploring about the sameMusic subjective but imo about the sameI don't think it's going to have as much an impact as the original
>>720775815I cheated and looked up where benches were for that one. The area is very reasonable once you have the bench though.
>>720776264I took no chances and brought help.
>>720773220wait how do you get him in the spa?
>>720776345I say hk has a higher number of great bosses than silksong if you include the dlc
>>720775782>Does the grounded tornado while the bombs cover all the air above youHe does this shit constantly and it's 2-4 hearts of damage depending on how fucked the hitboxes decide to be.It's a bad fight.
>>720776264>He didn't get Shakra to help him outngmi
>>720775926I think it's better than hollow knight by a lot, and I love hollow knight, opinion was really high here before too, weirdly enough, negative posts increased in frequency as the child porn and blacked spam stopped.
>>720775926I can second this>>720776195But I dunno if I can call it strictly 'better'. I do like it though.
>>720775019I did the rasher's courier through greymoor-> sinner's road-> green unnamed area where you fight phantom->underworks->the citadel
>>720776250She can say whatever she wants, it's hard to believe it's true with how little screentime they share.
>>720776067No! This one... the dark shall not take!
>>720776264>>720776325I would never attempt that gauntlet without a bunch of upgrades and a friend.
>>720776264yeah just cheese that shitequip the clinggrab onto the highest part of the wallplink down the fatasses as they jump and whiff at you
>>720775926The movement and bosses are better in silksong everything else is done better in hollow knight. To be fair the music in silksong was nice but sometimes a bit too ambient
https://youtu.be/aw3zVkBN7loIt do be like that
>>720775926It plays way better; IDK what people were smoking to think Hollow Knight's combat was great.
>>720776214Idk, the system in sekiro and this game works for me, if the price for tools being good is that shitters have to farm after spamming them and still losing, so be it, more fun for me.
>>720776264Why didn't you just quit out when you were about to die?
>>720776414The best Hollow Knight bosses are Widow tier. It sounds mean to say that but it's true. Silksong's boss fighters are generally better thought out and more fun to fight.
>>720775926It's basically better than HK in every convievable way. Anyone who says HK is better is just going off of nostalgia goggles. The only thing HK has over Silksong is originality.
>>720775863I didn't give a shit about hornet in the first game either. Idk what people mean when they say lace has no story or relevance. JOBnet was the exact same
What are the chances for their next game they just make something completely different to prove they can do other things and everyone will just hate it
>>720776597It was mere exposure. People put so much time into that game that they mastered it creating the illusion of good combat.
>>720775926The mechanics are great, having to treat every enemy as if they're a boss sucks.
>>720775926I feel that letting you heal midair/on walls makes it a bit too easyIf you were forced to heal on the ground the game would probably become ballbusting though
>>720776421I didn't know you could
>>720776624Thanks Navigtr
>>720776462Whatever you say, man. This isn't a movie game.
Where is the mushroom guy?
>>720776563I love Sherma so much.
>>720776640They should make the next game baby easy but you play as Sherma.
>>720776116Hornet meets ghost in Greenpath, you see her in Fungal Wastes, at the Hollow Knight memorial, in her second boss fight, saves ghost in the Pale She'll, meets him in the Abyss, meets him in Her rah's den, meets him outside the Black Egg and is inside too. Along the way you have real conversations and lore uncovering.Compare that to Lace who basically just says TEEHEE twice before you step over her to head upstairs to grandma silk.
>>720776563me when
>>720776692Need to read his slab first.
>>720776462They spoke with their swords.
>>720775926The only way you think Hollow Knight is better if you are getting hard filtered or you have rose tinted glasses on. Hollow Knight literally got all the same complaints that Silksong is getting and people now consider it a masterpiece
>>720774708FUCK YOU TEAM CHERRY LET ME PUT ADOPT ZAZA AND PUT HIM IN MY BELLHOME. HE DOESN'T DESERVE TO STARVE TO DEATH LIKE THAT
>>720776640I thought that "Fearless Fox" was the name of a children's storybook at first and they wanted to branch out into educational content
>>720776597HK was babies first metroidvania so it's a lot of people's first exposure to 2d action games.
>>720776264speedrunners dying there left and right it's truly beautiful
>>720776067>>720776250>>720776462Hornet finds her obnoxious, but she clearly pities Lace and due to her previous experience with the Vessels and even automatons like the Second Sentinel and Twelfth Architect she's more than aware that being artificial doesn't mean you aren't "alive". I do think people tend to overplay their bond though.
>>720776473>fuck... I need more silk to get out of here. Guess I need to take Lace to convince silk mommy to give me some, damn.
>>720776640 Hollow Knight 3 with a flying bug as the protagonist
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>>720776718yeah even when you do talk to lace she doesn't say anything of value>first encounter>teehee i'll kill you *dies*>second encounter>teehee you won't kill god *leaves angrily*>third encounter>zanzibart... forgive me...
>>720776405>>720776421What the fuck? You can do that? Fucking how?
>>720776635>Lace does nothing but fight you to fight you, could argue the second fight is a rite of passage to the GMSVs>Hornet fights you once to test your skills for coming to hollownest>Fights you again to see if you are worth of the Kings brand>Checks in after you beat her mom to lore dump and also pay her respects>Checks in after you get void heart to comment on it>Checks if you are ready at the egg and actively takes part in helping you get the better endingsCome on nigga
>>720776214Watching my friend play I realized shitty players run out because they react to "use your tools, the game is balanced around them" by spamming the shit out of them at the very beginning when phase one is piss easy compared to the latter parts where you'll really need them. That, and when they run out they say>durr now I gotta farmRather than going out and exploring more and getting more naturally
>>720775926Hollow knight got better the more time you spent in it and ended with a blast especially godhomeSilksong got worse with every Act and ended with a wet fartOverall Hollow Knight is the better experience, it reminds me a bit of Blasphemous 1&2. HK is worse from a mechanical standpoint but story, soundtrack, "feel" are all unmatched
>>720776852>>720776852>>720776852
So is Grandmother Silk a wyrm or something else? I don't recall it ever actually being stated what she is. Just that she is a giant silk lady that is mind controlling bugs with her hair.
>>720776707I will now buy your game.
What was the point? This was a giant downgrade to the other fight.
>>720776905>Hollow knight got better the more time you spent in it and ended with a blastYes.>especially godhomeNo.>Silksong got worse with every Act and ended with a wet fartYes.
>>720776264If you go there before you get the song quest, enemies will keep on spawning
>>720776797Rescuing lace was the plan all along. What do you think she was doing there
I don't think Lace was ever supposed to have a deep connection to the player like Hornet was in HK. I think people are criticising Lace because they're using Hornet as a metric when they aren't the same thing.
>>720776875Finish Shakra's quest by getting every map and helping her reunite with her mentor
>>720776875You have to do her wish first. She'll be by the entrance of the gauntlet after that.
>>720776797I mean the only reason GMS was holding onto dear life in the first place was because Lace was endanger, so Hornet's original plan was to remove Lace from the equation in order to get GMS to kill herself. Things just happened to work out better than planned.
>>720771041Wisp thicket boss is legit one of the hardest in the game, if not the hardest, if you try to fight it legit and don't summon Thor's hammer
>>720776726Where is the slab? Do I have to return it?
>>720776913She's a higher being like the Radiance
>>720776940Lore. The architects destroyed his kindgom and made a mockery of him and his lover.
>>720776913There's only one wyrm, GMS is just another higher being just like the white lady or unn
>>720776973>>720776975Damn. I basically went straight to the ending in act 2 cause I knew I'd come back to it and just finished Bile Water and got the map from her there. I had fun doing the gauntlet solo but now I feel like I missed out.
>>720776880>That, and when they run out they say>>durr now I gotta farm>Rather than going out and exploring more and getting more naturallyTo be fair, the corpse run mechanic does encourage you to run right back to where you died and not explore so you don't lose your beads for good.
>>720776483The best advice I got about it is to get the fuck away and not come back until much laterIt's the great filter of act 2
>>720770836>this is the average normie / w*men bitching and whining about silksong being too hard :(((We really need more games like silksong to bring back / reinforce gatekeeping. Go do your normie hobbies instead faggot.
>>720776967It just means the story has no weight. I couldn't care less if hornet went and saved lace because all she did was be a bitchy rival who barely gets any backstory. It feels so shallow and made me feel nothing regardless if it was intended.
>>720776940Closure.
>>720776913She's a god like the Radiance, no?
>>720776940there is no pointlike jobber king khann and irrelevantleth it was just another thing they didn't have time to finish properly
>>720777019All the way to the upper right of the Fleatopia cavern. You need the super jump from act 3.
>>720777014Wanderer made it easier with the constant vertical pogoing
>>720777040There's a black wyrm body in Hollow Knight where the fools arena is though so there are at least 2 wyrm's specifically.
>>720776718You're just dividing relevant encounters in multiple parts.>you see her jumping around before her boss There's about the same relevant encounters with Lace and Hornet, Lace arguably is more important this time for spoiler reasons than Hornet was, and anyways, whatever difference between them is so minuscule that it doesn't justify YOUR autism in all these threads.
>>720776956I thought she was going to kill Lace.
>>720777112I just got the oil from them, guess I'll have to check them again
>>720775926I super love how much Silksong leans into platforming. And the game's movement and movement options are a lot more elaborate than Hollow Knight's and extremely satisfying. In and out of combat. I also really like the world's map design and progression. It's a beautifully crafted metroidvania map. It really is as if the game was made for me. I just wish it was a bit more difficult, but hopefully DLCs will address that.
>>720777079And I never cared about Hornet in HK. This is a metroidvania. Story isn't the focus(no lore is not story). What is your point?
>>720777130Im pretty sure the whole kingdoms edge is just one giant wyrm corpse
>>720777157>minuscule that it doesn't justify YOUR autism in all these threads.This was my first time voicing this opinion in these threads. Take your medications.
>>720776956i thought she tried to stop the kingdom from dying to the abyss because mommy silk defended herself and that somehow made the abyss appear in the overworld or something>oh she's trying to defend her daughterumaybe she's just trying to defend her own fucking life like ??? what the fuck is this game aboutwhy do you can about some jap android bug made from silk anyways who cares, she tried to kill you three times
>>720777276It does interestingly seem to imply that higher beings do have actual species or at least relations rather than being singular isolated beings.
>>720776879Lace 2 and lost lace fights got me to retry them and thus left a bigger impression on me. I first timed hornet both times and only lost to her once in the pantheon (radiant). She was really forgettable.
>>720777053You bring up a good point. Perhaps a few silkeaters should be made available earlier?
>>720777235That's fine. I'm just not a person who mindlessly plays games, I actually think a majority of metroidvanias as a whole suffer from weak stories. Games like Metroid it's fine, the story is basic because it doesn't need to be. But if you actually attempt to have a half interesting premiss but still just suck at story telling it's a negative in my book.
>>720777053HK copying the Souls "lose your shit on death and need to go get it back" was always a shit design choice and I will die on that hill.
>>720777348And saved you in the end.
>>720771384Oh sweet summer child, everything with be fire...
>>720777456On the plus side your corpse leaves you a chance to explore new area early in both games
>>720775815Making it the last zone you can only properly explore completely after you've collected your last traversal abilities in much cooler zones was a mistake. They went full >"Well Anor Londo eventually leads to the Catacombs which was hard and memorable, so our equivalent to that will be our Blighttown." >"But we already have a Blighttown zone, Sinners Road.">"Super aids Blighttown, where the mosquitos don't die in one hit, do a third of your health, and run away/despawn when you get close."
>>720777453HK and Silksong shine in their worldbuilding which tie in thematically way better into gameplay in this genre with exploration of said world being built being the focus than having a story that would just get in the way of the gameplay.
>>720777390>How many times you retry a boss determines how much you care about the character themselvesInsane work
>>720776869That's every other reddit account these days, nevermind something that's 10 years old.
>>720777538Silksong does not shine in the world building, it does it so much worse than HK that it's criminal. Most players finish the game barely understand anything about the weavers, GMS, or lace because it's horribly conveyed through scattered obscure texts.
Game looks and plays like total dogshit, Blind hype is real.
>>720776718I mean. Hornet being seen for a second before her first encounter is like the equivalent of playing the needolin in front of Phantom's mirror. The latter is probably more impactful if anything.
>>720777373To me it looks like you take some bug related concept (or something adjacent) and deify it. The wyrm is a worm, the white lady is a fungus, unn is a slug, GMS is a spider, radiance is a fat moth. The grimm heart just doesn't fit in that concept
>>720777578Yes. The GAME parts (relevant) are more importantPure vessel was kino especially when you know it's an ideal. The hollow knight boss fight was a wet fart in comparison and forced fake spectacle. I regret finishing godhome before the main game proper but at the time I thought it was an optional side challenge like the colosseum of fools
>>720777510>sinner's road entrance>exhaust organ connection>whispering vaults secret entrance>memorium into purified ducts(other than the lake it's basically an extension of bilewater)>purified ducts entranceYeah in retrospect it's weird how often they connected you back to that place
>>720777663Most people finished HK not knowing what the fuck the Radiance was until they're literally fighting it. GMS is built up way better in comparison. HK's worldbuilding is all shit that happened before the game started. Silksong worldbuilding is shit happening right now so it's way more digestible and easy to understand since it directly ties to what you're doing.
>>720777824This is why I know you are insane. You just used the hollow knight, a boss purposefully made to be easy because he is actively fighting back from fighting you till he eventually just lets the radiance drag him like a rag doll, as an example for a boss fight that makes you care less about them.It's not meant to be remotely hard on purpose so it suddenly makes him a dogshit character despite all the cool setup for it. Idk what to call this other than insane.
>>720773220>when you play the needolin here he sings but splashes the water instead of ringing his bell
>>720773360>132 dodge What the sigmaWhat's the trick, there's obviously a fucking trick here
>>720774356They're not bugs
>>720774340Look them up in the official strategy guide (the internet)
>>720779001Not that guy and my scores are nowhere near as impressive but the Dodge game is really a "don't touch the ground" game and you can totally recover from getting hit sometimes.
