Voice acting isn't a real job.
I really don't think someone who doesn't have a job should be the decider of what is and isn't a real job.
>>720773258>indie dev talking about real jobHoly kek
>>720773258I know this retard from discord, he browses here so he's also probably shilling his game here, hes a lolcow, hes very irony poisoned and does most of his shit "ironically" he also takes a lot of pictures of himself with blue and purple lighting because he's "super bisexual" and likes to make people know hes bisexual with his selfies, woke faggot
retard above is a retard
he's right about online VAs
>>720774447Not OP but can you prove him wrong? What's a game with online voice actors who did a good job?
>>720775672im not saying hes wrong but he's still a faggot who attention whores a lot, hes girlfriend from a decade even broke up with him a few years ago because of this lmao
>>720774447construction site status?
>>720774447i don't care
>>720773258unironically hire some random starving film actor off of a callsheet from LA. I think they are happy to get work and will be better.
>>720773258Maybe it's true if you're hiring Americans. I want to hire Japanese voice actors for my game.
>>720773258never get American voice actors
He's not wrong. Games overall quality went down as voice acting became mainstream.
>>720773258>tfw work in construction>i actually like my job and physical labour I always though im weird.
>>720776984when I was a kid I wanted to be a backhoe operatordo you do any of thathow hard is the actual labor, is it stuff that would fuck up your body? how is the pay
>>720774447>I know this retard from discordnice self report homo
>>720774447>Even an obnoxious woke faggot can tell VAs are fags
>>720774447construction site, NOW!!!!
>>720777141He's not going to answer any of that because he doesn't want competition, you must realize
All you need is someone with a modicum of talent AND who doesn't think they should get 10% royalties forever for squeaking into a microphone.
>>720774447>I know this retard from discord"That guy's gay. I've seen 'im at the gay bar last night!"
>>720778813Doesn't exist, if they have a modicum of talent they are doing professional voice work. Video Game voice acting is already close to the bottom of the barrel, only maybe one baby step above anime dubbing. As an indie you're stuck hiring the people that couldn't even cut it in that field.
>>720774447woke fatties are waking up to the reality of american VA industry.
>>720777141I do full manual,I dont operate machines apart from small equipment needed like pneumatic drill and shit like that. I mostly do apartments and such big or small. I do everything including electric installations i taught myself how to do it lol. Pay is medicore but I like what I do.
>>720774028but he's right.
>>720779610>pay is mediocre if you started contracting you could probably make 3x the amount of money doing the exact same work
>>720773258he's right you know
>>720773258>they only know the "anime voice"This has been true since way, way before anime voiceshitters started trying to act like they have rights. If you ever wanted the audio version of SOUL VS SOULLESS, here it is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBBAh_o0eqYhttps://youtu.be/BNxtrRr9ErMhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsjXNPbsCkIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dTJC_aze84
He's not lying though every modern American VA sounds like a wannabe Steve Blum or Sean Schemmel. They all go "hmm what would make me sound good? I know I'll try to sound like Goku!!!"
If you hired them and can't give proper voice direction, it's your fault, not theirs.I'm not defending VAs nor do I think they should be paid more, to preemptively fend off some of you tards.I'm saying people should take responsibility for their own projects, not blame the people they chose for the work.
>>720773258>"the anime voice"oy vey he knows
>>720781894Voice actors should be good enough that they don't need direction. Is it really that difficult to watch the scene happening on the screen and tell by the words how you're supposed to read them?
>>720773258>construction site, NOW!!!!
>>720773258So Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamil weren't doing real jobs?
>>720782173Why do anime trannies on this site feel the need to take actual reaction images and paint over it with their cartoon?
>>720773258I have no game dev experience or actual skills, I work in an office for the construction industry.I'm unskilled and not-inclined to programming and I cannot imagine being close to coding a game myself, but maybe I could use Unity or UE because I've fiddled with mods and level editors before.I'm "talented" at art, yet I don't think I could create all the art assets of even a small indie game.I'm confident I could voice multiple characters (that sound different, with different accents) to a Japanese-game tier.Voice acting is like sex work, or modelling, or being a scientific research test subject. Random people off the street can do it to 100% capacity without any training or practiced skill because it involves (((talking))) which everyone does all the time.I'm less confident a random person off the street could clean my bathroom than a random person could voice a game, so voice actor pay should be below cleaners IMO.
>>720782245No, they're literally retarded leftists.
>>720781324What a silly game
>>720782271Why do tourists on this site feel the need to replace anime reaction images with nigger ecelebs?
>>720773258>>720774447this guy renamed his indie game to half life 3 on steam and then got banned by valve. After that he made his itch io page look like steam as "protest"https://thumbtack.itch.io/benboquest
>>720773258i'd rather voice train and do the voices myself than to hire VAs
>>720777141It’s called a “Trade” for a reasonYou shave off years of your life or get the knees of a 60 year old by 27 but get x3 the pay of the guy that went to college
I play my games on mute while listening to whatever I want yes even RTS.
>>720773258Shitposting isn't a real hobby.
>>720782003If you're not going to give direction you have no right to complain when your actors sound generic.
>>720782572but I'm already 28
>>720773258neither is acting
>>720782789being attractive used to be a requirement for being an actor.metoo ruined that for everyone though
>>720773258WHAT THE FUCK???PAY MEWHAT I'M FUCKING WORTH!!!
>>720782271>Oy vey, you're appropriating my negro image
>>720773258What's "The Anime Voice"?
>>720783031>complains that only actors of the same race should play a character>complains that he's typecast as the asian guyI like a lot of his old skits but he really has become so lame in these last few years
>>720773258
>>720783346https://youtu.be/ci8dIpNcyEY
>>720782990"being attractive" isn't a real job either
>>720783346People who grew up wanting to become voice actors learned the craft by imitating mediocre anime voice actors and acquired their inability to act well. They have no range of emotion and no ability to put feeling into their performance because the voice they hear in their head is garbage from a time when the anime voice acting scene was in dire straits, but for different reasons entirely.If people would instead look up to and try to emulate actual voice acting greats instead of cut-rate shitters, we wouldn't have this problem. This is the same phenomenon you see where people have no good media influences and only try to imitate recent shit when they write their stories, make their games, etc.
>>720773258A good vc bring sovl to a gameImagine same fisher without ironside or 47 without bateson
>>720783359funny that he deleted his twitter account because people kept making fun of him for it though
I want to hear positivism /v/!What is one Indie English game with GOOD voice acting! Find one!
>>720783854Mine when I release it haha ..
>>720773258>>720775663This. Maybe it's simply a director thing, but every time online voice actors are involved I just cringe, it takes me out of the project immediately.One really should just learn the skill themselves to get through with it, like how youtubers generally do. But if that's so impossible, you can find, for much cheaper, people who work with audiobooks and such.
>>720783535I know it feels that way but it actually is.Being hot is very important to sell things.
Bebno Quest 2 soon fellow benbros...
>>720774447He's also gay, has one testicle and does meth?
>>720773258>construction site, NOW!!!!!>mmmm nuhyeah
>>720782003>Is it really that difficult to watch the scene happening on the screenyes. these people don't play video games
>>720773258>construction sitethey would all collapse on the first day kek
i am forgotten
>>720783854Tales of Vesperia (original, not definitive)
>>720784539GO AND PICK UP A JACKHAMMER NOWYOU ARE TWITTING YOURSELF
>>720784735didnt she get replaced by jennifer halei feel like she's probably more expensive than literally who
>>720784735this was a quiet firing in action. couldn't remove her so they lowered compensation to make her quit.
>>720782739Then you get the knees of a 80 year old by 32 this is basic math man cmon
>>720784735Wasn't it basically the case that her character didn't actually have much lines in the game so per hour price was in line with that and only sounds low when looking at the gross?
>>720773258extremely relevanthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ci8dIpNcyEY
>>720783031I cannot believe that racial segregation was reintroduced to the VA industry because of retards on twitter.What a incredibly avoidable situation
>>720783535It is.The fuck are you on about?It’s super hard to keep looking attractive constantly
>>720776984i would say it's good to like what you do
>>720783854Afterparty was pretty good (indie point and click adventure game)
>>720773258how much would i spend on a VA if i only want them to make spoken gibberish like in twilight princess?
>>720779069well, that is where one might look to find oneand by "one" we mean (You)
>>720782617PanzerIV on the other side of the map: A.T. FIRE! COMMANDER GET US OUT OF HERE!!!anon microing to Angel with a shotgun (nightcore):
>>720785598Depends on the VA's ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation, and political alignment.
>>720773258It is, it’s just that most western VAs are shitty. I honestly think most games should have as little voice acting as possible.
>>720785804Please tell me that's a biological male.
>>720782003they dont watch the game they get a script and often dont even get enough good info about their character. Just go to casting call and see how many characters arent given enough information aside from either basic descriptions or some hyper autistic twitter type of writing.
I only play with English dub and don't biy games without them
>>720774447Go back.
>>720786487 Based English enjoyer. I don't get the weird pride people have in reading subtitles while missing half the action. If the dub sucks, yeah that's one thing, but half the time it's just weeb cope. Voice acting's part of the experience, and when done right (like in RE4 remake or MG games), it's half the reason the characters are so iconic.
>>720775672All the girls who make the rounds voicing porn animations are pretty good at their job imo.
>>720774447>all these seething responsesMakes you think
>>720776984The problem is you ruin your body and are unable to provide for your family after 40 because you have no skills that don't require your body.My uncle ran his own construction company for 30 years, make sure you start learning how to do something technical right now and become the guy for it. Like that's your thing and everyone knows, "oh yeah, you wanna get anon for that" cause everybody thinks they'll just super after their back gives out the second time but there aren't many of those jobs and you have to know somebody.
>>720782572>get x3 the pay of the guy that went to collegePlease qualify this, you aren't making more than the guy with a masters in civil engineering. You are making more than the guy who majored in asian studies.If people have the intelligence they can and should go to college and get a usable degree with a proven demand.
>>720783031All this dude’s fat goes right to his face.
I work construction, should I take voice acting as a side gig?
>>720783854Clash Artifacts of Chaos
>>720784448literally me
>>720773258This shit is only true for English dubbing because many indeed dub like if it was an anime for children.French dubbing feels natural as real life in dialogues.
>>720782003Voice actors that do video games are like third from the bottom only above anime and commercials and they're aware of it, you're not dealing with top tier talent and they will probably need a push in the direction you want that doesn't cause them to have a meltdown because at the end of the day they're theater kids
>>720783854Dota 2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIOqKWmWn2o
>>720773258four thousand us dollars
>>720776984No! Nothing useful! You will do gay dance theory after the revolution and you will like it.
>>720784990yes voice actors grossly overestimate their worth and think they have the star power to get people to play games just for them, which is true of maybe like 3 or 4 voice actors that I can think of, in the entire industry. Even then most people care more about the game than the VA, the VA just might get them interested.Their roles are wholly replaceable, and their overall contribution to a project which has literally thousands upon thousands of man hours from a team of hundreds is less than 1%The only time I could understand asking for more is dialogue heavy games like RPGs and JRPGs that have like 20 hours of recorded lines per character or some shit.
>>720783031>Olimar>Louie
>>720784990Overall it's a pay increase over Bayo 2 but she's asking for more and Platinum decided to pull the plug iirc fortunately english VA usually replaceable unlike JP
>>720773258Yongyea and prozd are subhumans YOOOOOOONNNNNGGG OUT
>>720773258>the anime voice
>>720785096It's not, retard. If you're attractive at a base level, it's incredibly easy.
>>720773258When did everyone get voice actor fatigue mainstream?
>>720792782The better question is, how does the west take the current awful voice acting scene and transform it into a healthier one like Japan has?It seems like that's exactly what they want - a voice acting environment where the actors get more pay and more respect, and the skill level is higher on average, maintaining a healthier yet wide core pool of talent. What steps are necessary for the west to attain this?
>>720773258Perhaps not but I would've payed for talented VA's if I was making a shitty game
>>720781324which one is the anime voice? the psp one?
>>720792517I hate to break it to you but being hot involves going to the gym and avoiding goyslop. You have to have a lot of discipline to keep it up and learn how to cook for yourself.
>>720773258>indie dev telling someone to get a real job
>>720794296If you can't tell, then you don't get to be involved in this discussion.
>>720774447can he tell the difference between domestic and chinese drywall at a glance? if so, based
>>720776984>lifts blocks (like bigger versions of lego bricks) up and down>real jobmaybe you should get an actual job like saying words in front of a microphone
>>720773258They're not wrong, people who are ""voice actors"" but never had any actual training and just got famous online for doing silly voices or bad comic dubs are bad voice actors and it is a waste of money, tons of indies have done well without voice acting
>>720793550its impossible as long those garbage western terminally online VA keep behaving like obnoxious activist for no good reason instead of shut the fuck up and do their jobalso japan voice acting scene is just too huge and different, they reach every entertainment available its not just anime stuffads, movies, tv shows, games, podcast, the list goes on, thats why their VA jobs are taken more seriously and respected compare to other countries
>>720793550Use AI to translate the voices of the Japanese VA and blacklist all western VA.
>>720793550Do what the UK does. Hire stage, theater, TV, and/or movie actors.
>>720795510I'm not up on this in the US but would it also maybe help to have a better developed radio/audio drama scene as well? I know that there is still something resembling an audience for that in the UK even nowadays, and of course in Japan you can't get the full story on ANYTHING without suffering through at least an hour of an audio drama related to it.
>>720775672Darkest dungeon feels like an easy dunk.
>>720796023Technically the guy was an audiobook narrator.
DO NOT USE AI! USING AI VOICE IS LITERALLY TRANS GENOCIDE! PAY YOUR FUCKING VOICE ACTORS WHAT THEY DESERVE, CHUDS!!
>>720793550>Don't centralize voice acting entirely in California. Encourage voice actors to get their start no matter what state they're from>Create and popularize some website that's specifically designed for up and coming voice actors to get themselves out there for affordable prices that target indie devs. Allows VAs to get jobs without requiring nepotism and being in some clique, all they need is their recording equipment>Encourage voice actors from different acting professions to get their start in voice acting using this site (narration, radio, theatre, fandubs etc) >Stop insulting indie developers for using cheaper options when no solution is provided for them (voiceless, sfx only, voice effects, AI). >Encourage the value of VAs by encouraging talent for affordable prices and make these VAs easy to find and contact>Stop racist hires that ProZD promoted, the only thing that matters if whether or not the voice fits the character role the client is looking for>Shun VAs that attempt to use racism/neptoism to get their way instead of their actual talent and skill>Value VAs based on their acting talents just like Japan. In Japan you can go from nobody to somebody after you finish acting school if you have a cool voice and do your character roles well, because they value talent and skillNone of this will ever happen though
