Come seethe about the game among friends.
WORST AREA EVER
>>720776852GIVE ME BACK MY SNARE YOU OLD FUCK
>>720776951Just cling.
So is Grandmother Silk a wyrm or something else? I don't recall it ever actually being stated what she is. Just that she is a giant silk lady that is mind controlling bugs with her hair
act 3 cannot be fixed. do not reply to this post.
>>720776951out of all the areas in this game, I think I died in the underworks the most. low light radius is a real menace
9.5/10And that 0.5 they can easily get back with patchesSimple as
>>720776852Thread theme: youtube.com/watch?v=1AYKHIN-l8c
i just got to the blasted stepsshould I comb over the other areas or just keep going?
>>720777025Act 3 is the best act in the game and I won't be told otherwise by shitters
died on this guy more times than I would like to admit
>Got to act 3So uh, do I ever get that tool back?
Nintendo should buy team cherry and put them in charge of 2d metroid
>>720777136>cogbugsI see you didn't even beat him
>>720777136Most of my deaths were just walking into him. Truthfully, I should've just stopped being stubborn and put on a different crest than wanderers but I was too deep in the ragoo
I probably shouldn't have but I accidentally saw a map screenshot and I'm pretty sure there was another area to the right of here? Can't find shit
>>720777270Act 3
>>720777083I'd like act 3 better if there was just a fuckton of boss refights if you were inclined to do that were just fucked up void versions. Maybe make beating them upgrade your tools, make them voided or some shit.
>>720777083act 3 was a big nothing to me ngl, 3-4 pretty small areas and then 2-3 cool bosses out of like 10
>>720776996she’s a pale being who shoved her silk into a feral species to uplift them in a much more invasive way unlike the pale king, therefore tying them to her. Pale beings like the pale king, her and white lady have a ‘Dominance’ instinct that makes them natural conquerors.
>>720776951>He hasn't been to BilewaterLOLLMAO
If you complain about "runbacks" you're a pussy
>>720776996'my kind always does this' seems pretty clear to me
bro FUCK these void enemy gauntlets
Just beat the clockwork gay lovers boss and even though it was pretty easy it was fun as hell. I hope more bosses are like this.
>>720777354They never played the first game and it shows
Act 3? The best one if you know how to play the game.
>>720777262Wanderer was how I beat him. He kept clipping me when I jumped over so I started pogo'ing over with wanderer. Also lets you get more hits in when he's open.
>>720777083no it's shit>LE BUT-cope>YOU'RE A LE SHIT-cope>AAAAAAAAAAACKthat's right
>>720776996Not a Wyrm, but definitely a higher being.
>>720777262I destroyed him with wanderer desu, though I juiced up and just out dpsed his shit. I had a harder time when I was trying to use reaper.
>>720777419Git gud
>>720777419No it's good. Most fun I've had with the game yet
>Well I just got to act 2 and I have three story targets to hit, but I think I'm going to try to finish this oil quest first. Surely it won't be that hard to get a couple of ingredients!
>>720777083>find every boss boring and easy aside from karmelita>you're just... le bad!i think not
worst quest ever
>>720777561Lmao, wait for the flea festival.
are you serious
>>720777659I am serious, adios
>>720777410The bosses have been extremely underwhelming so far, like insanely underwhelming, the only boss people praise, Karmelita, I haven't fought yet, It has been a breeze so far, only bosses I have left are Lost Garmond, Zango, Karmelita and Gurr the rest have been extremely underwhelming, hopefully one or two of these would be decent.
>>720777659This shit isn't a charity
>>720777597The flea festival takes you at most 30 minutes. Less if you use shaman for it's crazy hitbox
Need ips on how to navigate through The Mist
>>720777659>450lol, wait till late game.
>>720777659He's got kids to feed (probably)
>>720777786>He thinks tormented Trobbio is underwhelmingWe already knew you had terrible taste but you could've at least tried to hide it
I want to kick lace in her silk cooch.
>>720777828>30 minutesholy shitter batman
>>720777083Act 2 has the best exploring but act 3 has the best bosses.
>>720777561>the amazing delicacy is a jello moldlol
>>720777561Only issue is the Rasher. Everything else was fine imo.
>>720777136The fight is kind of simplistic in what actions the boss has. But I actually quite like the fight. The spears are kind of cool and aren't static or the same every fight. And the big dude, even if it just repeats the same moves and over, is kind of fun to fight since it shields against downwards strikes. It's fun to time everything so that it fits.
>>720777786all of those are bottom tier bosses aside from karmelita who's mid-high tier, but being surrounded by the absolute dogshit that is act 3 bosses makes her seem better by comparison which is why nobody shuts the fuck up about her (they're coping that act 3 isn't total garbage)
>>720777850>Play needolin next to bugs>Follow them to the correct exit>Pogo off ghosts if they get in your way
>>720777659it used to be 500, patchtroon
>>720777881just jump my guy
>>720777908>>720777939
>>720777914It's aspic
>>720777940oh so it was the needolin
>>720777161Tool stolen. i want it back!
bro the crow nest you get for your home is THE BEST fucking non combat thing in the gameidk how it works exactly but everytime I go home I have like 300 of each money waiting for me
>>720777880I beat him third try, I died twice because I am retarded and I didn't realize that his tornado left a trail (I couldn't see it), so I can't say much about him.
What's the deal with these niggas? Anything i can get from them?I noticed you can hit them if you attack immediately after you stop playing music but they've left before I can kill any
>>720777992>racism outside of /b/
>>720777992so a jello mold, exactly what I said
>>720777659>buglennials can't go a day without their morning silkbucks full of processed rosaries to be able to afford a weapon upgrade of all things
>>720777939Tormented TrobbioKarmelitaLost LaceSethAll incredible bosses. You're gay.
>>720777943it's funny how all the patch did was alleviate like 30 minutes of rosary grinding like it's a gacha game maintenance reward
I can't figure out how to get to act 3How retarded am I?
>>720776852I don't understand why the player's shard reserve is so big. Has anyone even organically reached 800 shards? And by "organically" i mean:>no farming>not being excessivelly stingy with tools>>720776960I never even used in combat :(. I only figured out how to use it right before giving it to that snigger fuck
>event that permanently removes your equipped crestKino or Cringe?
>>720777882It took me like 10 since I used shaman and it was fun for the most part. Idk why nobody enjoys it personally
>>720778092>4 bosses out of 10-15>2 are mostly reused>LL is worst than L2thanks for agreeing, a few good bosses in a sea of garbage
>>720778140cringe, very annoying it always defaults to hunter
>>720777940I just went left forever and it eventually worked lol, I was too retarded to needolin
>>720777908ah yes, great bosses like...>lost garmond>(nig)gurr>jobber king>seth "gee i sure hope you don't know how to pogo">nyleth "gee i sure hope you don't know how to pogo after seth">trobbio 2 (rehash of better act 2 boss)>clover dancers (rehash of better act 2 boss)>lost lace (rehash of better act 2 boss)
>>720778135Have you done a fuckload of wishes yet? I don't know if you need literally all of them but keep doing them
Does the charm that makes your needolin louder actually affect anything anywhere?
>>720778140Ludo
>>720778135Do all wishes.Get the fleas to Fleatopia.Talk to the priest in Songclave.
>>720778135no one outside of australia knows the conditions for act 3, it's a trade secret
The fuck even is the lore of this game anyway? Spiders suddenly became gods then built capitalist church?
>>720778092>Tormented TrobbioAgain, can't say much about him, it's just Trobbio with better-ish attacks>Karmelitadidn't fight her yet>Lost Lacedidn't fight her yet>SethDog shit, I am pretty confident he input reads.
The hitboxes suck so much dickI think that's the biggest reason why SS is only an 8, while HK is a 9
>>720778202>>trobbio 2 (rehash of better act 2 boss)>>lost lace (rehash of better act 2 boss)You can be unimpressed by these. But they're absolutely better than their first fights.
>>720778172>>720778202uh oh someone is having a melty
>>720778092>rehash>actually good boss>rehash>dies to pogo because they were too busy programming his input reading to account for the player just attacking downwards*yawn*
>>720778048just for a journal entrythey're also baby judges
>>720778234Spiders hated mommy so they put mommy to sleep, shame that mommy still could control beings while asleep
>>720778254>Dog shit, I am pretty confident he input reads.All enemies do. How do you think flying enemies know how to keep themselves away from your attacks?
>>720778234>suddenlyThey were touched by Silk's thread. It's almost a garden of eden type of scenario.
>>720776951>worst areaenjoy the coral tower and the cradle parkout, because i didnt
>>720778234The lore being conveyed in SS is too obtuse, I wouldn't bother. Best you can figure out is they fucked over GMS and she got mad and either killed/captured all of them
>>720778254>I am pretty confident he input readslol
KILLED SETH FIRST TRY WITH ONE MASK LEFT It was fucking kino too, we both rushed each other, I thought I was gonna die, but he died first so I didn't get hit.Kek, I'm demolishing every boss. You faggots suck at this game.
videogames are supposed to be fun
>>720778284lost lace is RNG garbage and a lazy recolor with generic voidslop attacks pasted on, she's 100% worse than lace 2 and honestly worse than lace 1tormented trobbio is GOAT though
>>720778138having the raven nest thing helps
>>720778284>Lost lace bettershe's just spamming more garbage in a bigger and darker arena, while teleporting directly into your assTormented Trobbio is almost the same with more garbage, minus the different arena.
>>720778378>lost my swag
>>720778282What's worse about SS's hitboxes than HK's? You're just looking for things to be upset about at this point.
>>720778254Congratulations you still have to fight the 2 hardest bosses in the game.All enemies input read btw.
>>720778378going right instead of left is safer
>>720778380Lost lace is an ass fight but not really RNG minus her teleporting in front of your face sometimes when dodging waves.
>>720778293back to /vp/ with you yawnfag
>>720778378the swagless need not post in these threads
>>720778372>The lore being conveyed in SS is too obtuseI don't really agree with this at all.
>>720778451Feel like karmelita was my favorite boss because I used shaman which has the best range/dive attack to hit her when she tries backing off.
>>720778209I tried looking this up and asking before and no one seems to know.
>>720776951I actually really enjoyed this place.
>>720778438They quite literally do not make sense.Enemy attacks hitting you while you're behind the enemy, enemy animations not changing their hitbox, pogo objects registering your hit, but not making you pogo off them...I could go on and on.
>>720778479when she spews void shit everywhere and then does an attack that checkmates you if you're not running parry, that's RNG slop>just run parryobviously, doesn't make it any less RNG slop though
This isn't comfy at all. This game went overboard on the flying enemies. It isn't fun anymore.
>>720778372>The lore being conveyed in SS is too obtuse>He didn't play the Needlelin in the dead end areas
Still thinking about Pilby.
>>720778284lost lace would be better if all the void attacks didn't obfuscate her
>>720777202Nintendo has fallen off they don't need to be jailed like that
>>720777083>voided moorwing>voided sister splinterThose would basically be unpatched versions of their original boss fights.
>>720778557First getting double jump helped
>>720778405Oh shit, i forgot to install it
>>720778523Feel free to prove me wrong. When I got to GMS I still legit only knew that she was an asshole controlling people with silk and had a grievance towards weavers.
Holy fuck the Shakra Rings are so much funI think them + Silkshot is gonna be my go-to from now on
>>720778557lol remember to take the left path
>>720777561I was honestly surprised that after the black screen, he wasn't eaten along with/instead of the jello.
>>720777136It's the fact that he appears where you're standing
>>720778627Only takes 30 to 40-ish hours on a casual playthrough.
>>720778642Did you like the taunt? I kept them the whole game when I found out they had that
>>720778372So this is the audience that loretuberniggers pander to...
>>720778537Nigga I was double jumping in the sky over whatever shit she is doing usually.
>>720778681Considering you need the harpoon for the area it's not that far away to mount fay
should've had kickstarted designed gauntlets too
>>720778575That's why Lace 2 > Lace 1 >>>> Lost LaceLost Lace is so uninspired, she just throws the same void abilities that most bugs. Oh and she can do tsunamis, amazing boss fight. The teleport would be fun if only she didn't do it outside of the screen.
>>720778360No, I know they do, that's not the problem here, the problem is he is very uninteractive, I got filtered for like 10 minutes here, so I I think I can talk about this one. Did you try to attack? lol what a retard, get blocked and countered, did you jump to avoid the counter? tough titties, how about you get tornado attack? did you dodge his shield throw? woops, he is about to spawn on top of you, the moveset by itself is totally fine, but it's made annoying by the constant counters, the safest way to fight him is to run away and wait for him to do an attack and pogo him, how is that engaging? Oh, I don't use tools by the way, so don't try mentioning them.
>>720778561Oops you entered the area with low silk.Key lore and world building being behind going to descends and playing your needleoin probably isn't the best way to do it. I did do this occasionally but the most it gave me was flavor text and not really anything significant
>>720778563Did you know Pilby is the only NPC in the game with a friendship stat?
>>720778694The what now?
>>720778694>regular taunt costs silk because Hornet has to show off with a silk thread>Shakra taunt is free because she uses the rings
>ZERO blue tool slotsWhat is the point of beast?
why do people shit on the wanderer crest
>>720778561i did most of the optional stuff in act 2 before fighting GMS and i still knew jack fucking shit>she made weavers>weavers rebelled and were punished>also she's mindraping people>lace and phantom were her daughters and made purely from silkthat's about all i had which isn't enough to make her anything less of a nothingburger since her motivations are basically entirely unexplained until act 3 and even then they're ass backwards and don't make sensefeel free to point out the important lore i missed that gives more insight into the character before act 3
>>720778798R3 / click your right analog stick on controller. On keyboard I think it's V or something.>>720778875Yeah I loved spamming it during fights. The ting makes me feel like Sherma
What am I supposed to do with my excess memory lockets after maxing the one I'm using?
>>720778575That's the point. She intentionally hides behind those void tendrils so if you don't see her you know she's going to pop out of one. It's not hard to counter
>>720778798Looked it upI did not know this game had any kind of taunt system in it
>>720778745>Lace 2>good
Why are snails the way that they are?
>>720778757You're misdirecting your anger, anon. I do not disagree that Seth is the worst boss in the game, I am merely extending your statement: flying enemies are also bullshit.Both Seth and Carmelita can fuck off with them blocking half of your attacks for no reason at all.
>>720778950I know it's the pointmy point is that it's annoying and detracts from the fight
>>720778886Damage.
>doesn't change it's appearance in game
>>720779012It's not that annoying once you know how to counter it
>>720778757Seth is a fun fight, but most of the fights are about being active agressive, yet he's the opposite, he punishes you for being active and forces you to fight reactivelly.
>>720778941>>720778954They really are hiding everything in this game, huh. I got spoiled when I checked the binds and such and accidentally that there was a Harpoon later on (I thought Silk Spear was the closest we'd get until the Clawline) but not get informed there's a taunt
>>720779016This was way easier than people hyped it up to be.
>>720779058I'd like his fight more if his arena wasn't so large and he can attack from off screen
>>720779016what is that ability makes you disappear and do aoe damage? is it part of the crest?
>>720778575>if all the void attacks didn't obfuscate herIn what way? Her attacks are well telegraphed.
>>720778956>Let me cherrypick this specific webm when somehow she spammed the same ability again and again for 20 sec, except onceI guess you enjoy drowning in a sea of shit.
>>720779089I think it depends a lot when you fight him, when I first attempted without the clawline or any oil the adds were horrible to deal with
>>720778957Snails are weak and cowardly so they have to be subversive and practice dark art
>>720779089>Shitters make a fight seem way harder than it actually isThis is why I always take people going >This boss is too hard!With a grain of salt
If you used the beetles, you beat the game. By using your own enemy summons to rape bosses with, you're beating Silksong at its own game. Sweaty obese tryhard virgins need not apply.
>>720779152black on black, anonshe literally blends into them
>>720779150Silk skill from a hidden boss.
I just beat act 2 today and honestly idk if I can even be bothered with unlocking act 3.. why did they lock a bunch of cool content and bosses behind getting fleas and completing boring missions? Anyone have an easy guide to rush unlocking act 3?
>>720779193Where do you get it?
>>720778138I only use tools for bosses or (two or three of the) gauntlets and explore a lot so yeah, pretty constantly maxed out.
>>720779208what's it called?
Godmaster was an alright addition to Hollow Knight. It was a fun challenge, it had some cool moments. That being said, while it felt like a proper trial, it's something that doesn't grab me by the nuts.Conversely, I absolutely fukken need a boss rush or gauntlet option for Silksong. There's so many different tools I wanna experiment with, and I'd boot up the game just to play such a mode over and over again. Please tell me there's at least a Colosseum of Fools analogue later on.
>>720779229high up, after you see enemies using it
>Beast fly boss>hear how awful it is>A little frustrating with the adds but pretty easy to bait his attack patterns to kill>There's a quest to kill him again in the lava area>he now destroys platforms>he summons adds that shoot projectiles>the projectiles now create a lava pool on the ground on the limited ground you can't stand itI now understand why people complain about the savage beast fly
>>720779219yeah, complete all the missions and get enough fleas to get the caravan to fleatopia
another 10 minutes wasted
>>720779183nta but I beat the guy when the most recent upgrade I had was the sneedolin and before doing Great Tases of Pharloom and it was still a breeze. Literally all I had to do was pay attention to where he slams and spam Silkspear on the adds when they show up
>>720779174>Thinks Lace's actions are decided by RNGAnon, I...
>>720779219Why did you guys just not do missions as they appeared? If you don't care enough to explore for fleas or do quests then you aren't gonna care for Act 3. You might as well just stop here
Fleas > grubs
>>720779249Cross stitch. It's a parry.
>>720779254You know what really would scratch a nice itch? I random mode where you fight bosses with randomized loadouts.
>>720779373Grubs were helpless but fleas are just retarded
>>720779219>why does a metroidvania involve anything but going from boss a - b - c in a completely linear fashion without doing anything else.Why did you play this game in the first place?
>>720779219Yeah it's called playing the game and exploring. No shit it feels like a chore now that you've just gone from boss to boss without doing any of the optional shit. You've made your bed, now lie in it.
>>720779445They're literally puppies.
>>720777659640 for the next one
>>720779357>>720779449Stfu pussies I'll play the game however I want and you'll like it. I didn't walk around Reddit basedfacing at the environments like you did to get all the EPIC BUG LORE. You fucking faggots. I oughta kick your fuckin ass for saying some weak shit like this to me.
>>720779328Purposefully ruining the fight by baiting attacks, complaining it's easy, then claiming you enjoy lost lace probably because you can't actually control her moves? You're legit retarded.
>>720779535That doesn't change the fact that they are retarded and put themselves in that situation
act 3 peaks with the karmelita fightwhy in gods name did they decide "yeah let's have the final boss be a fucking rehash of a shitty jobber character nobody cares about"what make them think this was a good idealost lace is so fucking lame in both concept and execution
Killed the plant bitch after Seth on my 5th try, not good, but definitely not as bad as you guys crying made it seem, all I had to do was lose my fear and just keep pogoing on her non stop.
>>720778378Unlike the meat quest, you can just reset the game to the last seat you were at
Was Moorwing supposed to be a difficulty spike boss?
Im getting filtered hard by the last judge.
>>720779575>I'll play the game however I want Clearly not since you want to play Act III, got filtered and are crying about it on a Norwegian Ice-hucking Forum.
>>720776951I did it without cling. It wasn't so bad imo.
>>720779621>shitty jobber character nobody cares aboutLace is the new fan favorite character and it's 100% intended on Team Cherry's part. They specifically set her up to be the protagonist of the next game.
>>720779575>This much projecting because you don't actually want to do content in a game full of itEither do it and get into act 3 or stop bitching and drop the game
>>720779639people shit on nyleth not because she's hard but because she's boringthe entire area, seth included, is just "do you know how to pogo? yes? okay here you don't even have to actually fight the boss"
>>720779621People were dumping Lace shit everywhere ever since she was announced years ago.
>I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU DIDN’T DO ALL THE HECKIN OPTIONAL SLOP SIDE MISSIONS FRIENDO YOU'RE MISSING OUT ON MORE SHARD BUNDLES AND LORE ABOUT FUCKING BUGS>I'M FUCKING GOING INSSAAAAANNEEE THAT YOU DIDN'T PLAY THE GAME JUST LIKE I DID!!REDDITSISTERS AIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!
>>720779219You'll love the fun fights of act 3, like the boss that spams projectiles and teleports instantly as you come close! Or the bosses that spams 1 projectile. Or the boss that does nothing after gauntlets. And rehash fights. And finally, one or two good fights.
COME THE FUCK ON I WAS SO CLOSE THIS GAME IS FUCKING BULLSHIT
>>720779621Posted it again award.
>>720779575>Stfu pussies I'll play the game however I want and you'll like it. I didn't walk around Reddit basedfacing at the environments like you did to get all the EPIC BUG LORE. You fucking faggots. I oughta kick your fuckin ass for saying some weak shit like this to me.
>>720779274second fight is actually easier.>you (likelly) have wall grab>you can make beastfly fall on the lava (idk if it deals damage, but gives you a little break)>the lava-spitting adds are less annoying than the white flies that charge across the room, their attack don't really "sinc" with the bosses attacks like the adds from the first fight, and they also stay away instead of approaching you, so you don't have your maneuvering space reduced>You (most likelly) have more tools and more slots
>>720779254Godmaster annoyed me a ton, because I know I would have super loved the DLC if I had played it fresh after my initial playthrough of the game. Instead I waited a long time for a DLC, that was initially marketed to have a whole bunch of other content to it (some of which appear to have ended up in Silksong, which is cool). But then all the stuff outside of the boss rush stuff was cut. And I was completely out of the game by the time the DLC hit, so I was way worse at it than when I had freshly played it. Which meant that the DLC was just old content repackaged, while the skill I had built up from the initial playthrough had been lost from time. I'll admit though. Having replayed all of Hollow Knight. I now super love Godhome. But yeah.
>>720779058He does feel really different from most bosses, my guess is they made him with that cancer patient still alive and did not want to alter him much after
>>720779602Like puppies.
>>720779741clumsy bug
>>720779328And if anything, what you're complaining about isn't the boss herself at all. It's the poor AI and the input reading.
Flea Juggle is shit. Just feels like there are some batches that are impossible to not fumble somewhere. The other two games at least always seemed beatable, even on the ones where I lost.
Just beat Khann. Extremely kino boss fight.
>>720779741
>have to do the mist every time you want a go at phantom>have to do it with maggotswho the fuck thought this was a good idea
>>720779681nobody who's actually played the game cares about hershe has no relevance to anything and the fact that act 3 revolves entirely around her after she's done literally nothing up to that point is mary sue shitthe only reason she has any fans is because people THOUGHT she would have an actual role in the game due to being advertised as a rival to hornet when in reality they have less interactions together than fucking pillby
>>720779621I feel like they got the fight backwards, conceptually speaking. She should have started out almost completely voided, with a totally different, more chaotic moveset. Then, as you progress through the fight, she gradually loses the void abilities and starts fighting more like she did in the previous fights.
Am I doing everything backwards? I unlocked the Cogwork Core and did the Architect's Melody, then I went to Mount Fay at 6 masks because I heard that's where double jump is. Now after getting it I went to every place inaccessible and I'm up to 8 masks and 4 extra silk spools. I found Phantom and beat her in one try, I found the two fire guy bosses (I forgot their name) and beat them in one try, I went to Bilewater and found Groal and beat him in two tries and I heard he was the hardest boss in the game. Did I just get too strong too fast?
>>720779725That excuse doesn't work on me, no one cries about bosses unless they're getting buttfucked, I liked her too, more of the game making sure you know how to pogo and use the claw to get close and away from enemies. Can't wait to see the next terrible boss you guys totally didn't get mad at, and I'll beat them easily.
>>720779883One can also do the bilewater route, theres a bench and fast travel before that. It's just pretty annoying to get to it first
>equip Cross Stitch for an epic fight with Shakra>she flies right past the counterattack if you don't do it at the tail end of her lunget-thanks
>try other metroidvanias>they're all shitlsop compared to silksongmy standards are too high now...
What are the locations for passing of age?
>>720779894>nobody who's actually played the game cares about herThere is literally dedicated yurispammer in these threads and they've never played the game
>>720779219I completed virtually everything needed for act 3 before I finished act 2You don't enjoy playing games
>>720779883There's a bench in the exhaust organ...
I'm loving this game so much I feel bad for pirating it. Is there a way to keep my save if I buy it now?
>>720779975mfs will tell you they found it themselves
>>720779929i've been saying fourth chorus is dogshit since day 1 of this game being out, retardyou think i was getting filtered by that jobber and his unbelievably telegraphed attacks that my geriatric grandmother could dodge without ever having picked up a controller in her life?no he's just a shit boss
>>720779765Godmaster is ass. Having to fight the Dream Warriors completelly fucks with the pace and enthusiasm of the pantheons.
>>720779863I hope he gets an upgraded version that fights more aggressively. I know he's meant to be easy since the enemy gauntlet right before him was the real challenge, but it doesn't sit right with me knowing that the barbarian warlord was even easier to kill than the nearly immobile plant girl.
>>720779863I honestly think he should have been more difficult. His fight was kind of a letdown difficulty wise.
>>720779993NTA, but your statement literally complements that other anon's.
Wait, the plant bitch's heart is a flower? Why did no one tell me that? That seems like the best option for your house. Can I just not take the heart for now and get the others, then come back to get this for my house?
>>720780012hopefully not, so you can pay the nigger tax
>>720779975It should be petty obvious from the tablet. Only the burning fields one is kinda misleading.
>>720779741>MFW I broke my delivery by running into the oil container right behind loyal Mergwin
ENDER LILIES: Quietus of the Knights is quite good. There's also a sequel that is pretty good if you wind up liking it.
>>720780012Yes.
If i beat the game in act 3 can i keep playing from that save after?
>>720779681>fan favoritethat's Sherma and it's not even close
>>720780030He's kino too. Way to use your new skill in a boss, and an alternative way to kill it? SOUL.I bet that lave killed you dozens of time, LMAO. Shitter!
>>720779975they're all really fucking obvious unless you somehow missed first sinner
Act 1: 7/10Act 2: 8/10Act 3: 4/10Ending was cool but i genuinely never wanna play this game again
Lorebros, did we get any insight at all on what this thing was? Everyone was so sure before Silksong came out that we'd learn about this thingAnd how are the bugs in Pharloom sentient? Wasn't that a result of the Pale King's influence in HK?
>>720780081Ok THAT would genuinely get me to sperg out.
>>720779939I was doing it through Bilewater. Unless you mean a way to get to Exhaust Organ without passing through the Mist.>>720780010Would have been nice to know. Kino boss either way, The Mist just sucks massive dick.
>>720777936I kind of enjoyed the rasher. It was a decent challenge imo.
>>720780008Is it really a crazy concept for you that some people enjoy playing games in a different way than you do? Are you this severely autistic that this is a difficult concept for you to grasp?Some people take their time with games, some speedrun, some just beat the main story and move on, some 100%...I mean genuinely are you retarded anon?
>>720780072Nah that one was straightforward, only one zone has both fields and lava pitsI got the spinning tower cause I thought it was cogwork
>>720780179>37hourspost mod list
>>720780164yeah yeah we get it you're a tranny
>>720780030I was really hoping we got to fight another one of the buffed up chorus later on.
>8/9 spool upgrades completed>look up where to find another one thinking you can probably get to 3 full spool bars and I've missed a few>nope>there's only 18 in the game>i've gotten 17, and the last one is in a place i haven't gone tozamn i'm popping
>>720780156I hope it's Sherma. I'd rather see him as the next protagonist than Lace, whose character arc is pretty much one and done in this game anyway. The only reason anyone, including Team Cherry, would want her to be the star of the sequel is for more yuribaiting nonsense.
>>720780187>I was doing it through Bilewater.Why would you have maggots then since the bench is right before the entry to the mist, either way good job
>>720780289under the elevator in whiteward, thank me later
>>720780209I mean you can enjoy speedrunning shit and moving on but don't complain that you need to play the game in order to see everything the game has to offer. You can get an ending in Act 2 and leave it at that if you really don't feel like doing quests and finding fleas
>>720780179yea there's not a lot of addictive qualities since most of the reward system is backwards
>>720780181>Wasn't that a result of the Pale King's influence in HK?He uplifted some bugs that were primitive. There were existing sapient bugs and primitive ones.
>>720780282same, he had a really cool design
I'm getting filtered hard by Lace 2, bros. She moves so fucking fast, and half the time when I hit her it sets off her stupid parry. I did every single sidequest possible for act 2. How do I beat her?
>>720777940chat is this real? I thought you had to find the butterfly moth things and just go to the exit near them, like breadcrumbs. fucking bullshit desu.
>>720779674Get the Magma Bell from Forge Sister, it'll make it way easier
>>720780331Maggots before Exhaust Organ, upon exiting the Mist there's an unavoidable swim before the entrance.
>>720780340I already got that one, the last one i'm missing is in high halls apparently
>>720780243Honestly don't know why its that low, i got 47 hours on steamOnly got Compass&Magnet mod cause i'm not wasting a slot for those
>>720780310oh no, there's no way Sherma would be the protagonist over Lacebut Sherma is definitely the fan favorite
>>720780383Yes. I had to look that shit up because I just couldn't figure out where to go
>>720780072I just went to blasted steps and found the last piece of mask I need while trying to find the "scorched field" one
>>720780181Its the IRL ancestor of spiders so its just weaver ancestor worship>And how are the bugs in Pharloom sentient?Less bugs overall are sentient compared to HallowNest maybe, or Pharloom used silk somehow
WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN
>>720780351I'm complaining because act is a whole new area with unique bosses and it's gated behind doing a bunch of fetch quests. I just think that they could have added it into the main game more organically instead of requiring I be a 100% gamer.
>>720780468spend those lockets nigger
>>720780181>how are the bugs in Pharloom sentient?uplifted by GMS, literally explicitly shown in the cutscene after first sinner, it could not be more obvious
>>720780420It's not that hard. He can be inspired to be more of a warrior like Hornet to protect his people, and his motivation for adventuring can be to roam the land to find more people to save and send back to the shrine.
>>720780409Steam timer ticks constantly when the game is open, the save's timer only ticks when that file is actively running. Pausing with esc pauses the timer.
>>720780468it's related to crestsbut dumberdumber than you can come up withspent memory lockets
>>720780289I was looking for the last spool forever with the online map and it turned out to be the right above bone bottom.
>>720780468upgrade your crests, nigga
>>720780512Well some of them. The ancient kingdoms existed before GMS reigned
>>720780480the problem is that they wrote themselves into a corner with the fetch questsif you could go to act 3 it would make absolutely no fucking sense for bugs to be caring about dumb shit like "please bring me shards to make a bridge over this pit" when the entire world gets VOIDED.comso they HAVE to make you do all the shitty fetch quests so the narrative can actually functionthough function is a strong word
Game peaked here, act 3 bosses were meh except for skarsinger.
The triangle motherfuckers totally track on you don't they? There's no way these little shit bounce so perfectly right into me everytime
>>720780530it's not dumb, immediately before this she does something to your Hunter Crest, so you know it has something to do with crestsand the only way to expand them is with lockets
>Only the starting crest can be upgradedI was waiting for the other ones to be upgradable the whole game...
>you can skip Lace 2 with needolinwait, what?
>>720780179did you play blind? 100% in 38 hours seems crazy for a 1st run
>>720780181Does silksong have any weird ancient corpses like the trilobyte, crystal bugs, and those giant corpses in greenpath? I know that sprintmaster lives in a corpse like that but other than that I didn't notice many.
>>720780480Which you would've already done if you actually cared. You don't even have to do all the quests as soon as you get them, you can just accept them and then work on them later on when you feel like it. You didn't want to do the quests as they appeared so now if you want to go to act 3, you have to do all of them now. They are organic as they could possibly be, the game even incentivizes you to do them since they give rewards
>>720780181I think Maskbro implies that the masks give sentience and that it has nothing to do with the higher beings.There are bugs on the surface that were apparently sentient before being lured down into the citadel
>>720780685What are you talking about?
>>720777419Cute strawman little guy
>>720776951HOW WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW??????
>>720780738the marrow has a lot of unexplained giant skeletons, and i'm pretty sure the metroid escape sequence in far fields takes place in a giant corpse too
>>720780738The gauntlet with the rising lava escape in far field is another large corpse.But nah there's nothing like the large bodies we see in HK like the body looming over the quick slash charm or the random body in queens gardens
>>720780787Nta, but I got the Mossberry and Nectar before doing the Rasher, so when I turned all three of them in at the same time he immediately gave me the hint about the nut being in the Caves.
Act 3 just slows the game down so damn much it's actually crazy. After act 1 and 2, I was ready to say silksong is a 10/10 and I have literally only said that for one game ever. Now though? I think it'll have to settle for 9/10 assuming the ending is good. I see now why they hid act 3 behind a bunch of subquests because it's really just there for people who have nothing else to do because it just wastes time. I really wanted to like act 3 as well. The start of it was so strong but people were right. It would have been better if some act 3 content was put into act 2 and the game just ended after act 2. Act 3 is seriously killing my motivation to play. You can really tell they just tacked act 3 on last minute
>>720780738Pilgrim's Rest is a giant corpse
>>720780289>>720780340LMAOOOO this was the one I was missing. Fuck me right. Could have had this the whole game.
>>720780756Allows you to skip straight to GMS from Terminus
>>720780756play needolin with equipped charm during her fight several times
>>720780726You can actually 100% while skipping quite a few things. 100% basically means all tools, masks, spools, crests, memory lockets but you can skip stuff like relics, mementos or wishes
Mystery Nigga.Let me guess: is it the volt plants?
What is the best looking heart for you house?
>>720780369Where is it stated that some were already sapient?>>720780512We see her turning bugs violent throughout the entire game. They even have a silk animation before they get up. But nothing is implying that for the normal bugs.Judging by these and the other replies, I'm guessing it's just a lore inconsistency then. Or maybe giving the bugs mind was in reference to removing the influence of the Radiance or something.Disapointing we got nothing on the Trilobite, though. This game would have been a good opportunity to expand on one of the more mysterious things in Hollow Knight.
>>720780917desu I didn't mind it.It just felt like my own true end path in the original Hollow Knight except with a more kino transition.I don't know how people are clocking in 10+ hours in Act 3 though. I bet it in like 7 hours.
>>720780917100% it's a waste of time. Better off watching the ending on YouTube and then move on with your life.
>>720780913is the coral something area right of songclave? i was wondering where the last ingredient was
>>720780917wutYou literally just grab the super jump, beat 3 memory bosses then face the final boss. It's incredibly brisk if you beeline it. I thought it should have been meatier honestly
>the Jew running Pilgrim's Rest sings about how safe he is and how he just needs to accumulate a few more rosaries before he's holy enough to keep climbing>go back in Act 3>deadlol...
>>720781014>Where is it stated that some were already sapient?The fact that stuff like moths or mantis tribes already existed
>>720780094i've had my eyes on this, will check it out soon after skong
>>720781008Forgot pic
Where is the key for the whiteward lock?
>>720781060Well technically the last ingredient is the Pickled Muckmaggot, but that one felt really fucking obvious.
>>720781108In Whiteward, right side of the area, hidden ceiling
>>720780917really? i thought the act 2 ending was very anti climactic, especially with GMS being so easy. very glad there's more
>>720781121nah i mean the actual nut
>>720781025I seriously hope the final boss is worth it or idk act 3 might have ruined the game for me.
does anyone think the world is a lot more boring than the first game
>>720781164Literally how. Are you getting filtered by one of the bosses or something?
>>720781092You go to the room this guy found >>720778048 and lure them with music
>>720780917How? Act 3 literally makes you do a sequence of kino stuff right until the ending. And even reveals some areas that you might not have found yet.The only annoying part of Act 3 is finding the flea in Wiso Thicket and Mr Mushroom.
>>720781178It is. No real distinct biomes, lacking ambient music, not really as tight-knit as in Hollow Knight...
>>720780381Anybody? HELP
>>720781178No? Very much the opposite even.
>>720781253just be less aggressive and let her sperg out before attacking. neutral jump to avoid her parry
>>720781253Took me over a 100 attempts. Good luck!
>>720781178yeah, bunch of areas that feels like its lacking something, or more identity even.entire ant area feels underwhelming a bit.
>>720781250Silksong has a bunch of very memorable areas for meMore than HK evenBut nothing tops the City of Tears.
>>720781253Uh... >>720780685???
>>720777060Generally there's nothing to be lost if you keep going in SS. The only things you can permanently miss are lore tidbits and one alternate bad ending at the end of A2.
>>720778048>>720781242What the fuck are those?
>>720777161Which one?
>>720780917they really wanted to do their own inverted castle but didn't have the balls to actually go all the way with it. act 3 doesn't feel organic like the true ending in HK did, in HK you were fully exploring the world to access forbidden places and piece together the keys to a better outcome, while in silksong you're just arbitrarily checking items off a checklist until the game deigns to let you progress. it's very inelegant design for that alone, the fact that it's comprised mostly of unfinished/cut content and lazy rehashes only compounds how bad it is.
>>720781253>>720780381see >>720778956
>>720781373>the fact that it's comprised mostly of unfinished/cut content and lazy rehashes only compounds how bad it is.Actually its metanarrative kinoThe three main hearts are from stuff they revealed in the 2019 trailer
>>720781253I honestly think shes the easiest boss in Act 2 so not sure what to tell you.You can just jump over her parry. And remember you can heal in mid-air
>>720781086I strongly recommend it. It goes on sale for $10 every few weeks.
>>720781343infant version of the blasted steps judges
Was there a higher being in mossy grotto that I missed which explains the moss? The first game always tended to tie that kind of thing to some entity like greenpath and unn or fungal wastes and the mushroom hivemind so what's up with that.
>>720781178The world is cool as hell, it's just that the environment just feels a bit disjointed at times with how the zones are placed and fit together. Hollow Knight felt way more coherent, but the Citadel is cooler than everything in Hollow Knight and I say that as someone who fucking loves Hollow Knight.
>>720777940This took me way too long to figure out. I even grinded the spirits for a while because I thought that was the only thing to do.
>>720780094I wished I liked Magnolia more..on all accounts it should be better but the story and setting was worse.
>>720781178Yeah it is... Silksong is good but it feels like it's a DLC to Hollow Knight more than a sequel.
TC lost the chance to add customizable cloth to Hornet
>>720781529I agree it's a shame. It's still pretty good but failed to capture what the first game did.
>>720781224It's just not fun. The runbacks have somehow been made even worse (a true feat holy hell), they close off routes you need to go around and reopen which makes traversal annoying, and it especially doesn't feel great that you finally get strong at the end of act 2 only to be made weak again in act 3 because now everything takes way longer to kill. It's not all bad but the bad just outweighs the good so far. I know what they were thinking with act 3 but it's just not enjoyable and I fucking loved act 1 and 2
I think it would trader the double jump for an upwards diagonal attack
>>720781178Absolutely not.Silksong has fucking amazing world design and the fact each area now has more involved "gimmicks" makes them so much more memorable because you actually feel the difference when you traverse them.
>>720781178No? It feels about the same to me
>Green tools
>>720778254>Dog shit, I am pretty confident he input reads.loland yes, lmao
>even the old ass bugs in the game call Hornet the Old OneHow old is she, really?
I got a laugh out of fighting Shakra and realizing that she fights exactly like Hornet but in the way /v/ complains about>no don't dodge, play keepaway, and use tools>you gotta get in their faces, keep in there, beat em down needle-only, an-->*BONG*>get ring'd in the face, dumbass
>>720781178You guys just have rose tinted glasses for the first game, the first game is far emptier than silksong
>>720778378You're having fun, you just don't realise it yet.
Charms were better in HK. I like the tools but they should have been an addition to charm slots and not a replacement.
>>720781634For me Act 1 was a 7/10 that turned into a 9/10 with Act 2 because I found the Phantom route and the entire map opened up which peaked at like 9.5/10 with Act 3. Would have been a 10 if the Dream Needolin had more places to access though I think they'll fix that with DLC.
>>720781178i dunno about boring but it does feel way more empty.like, look at the whole sinner's road/bilewater/putrified ducts section of the map. that's a LOT of map space, but what's really in it?two boss fights (fat chef and fat frog) and a few scattered minor upgrades.it just feels like a lot of areas were made solely to make things seem bigger and not to actually add content to the game.
They should have kept the second sentinal fight in the halls instead of that tiny room
>>720781828Yeah no shit because Hornet is bigger and moves faster
>>720780530Fucking hell I just assumed it was something to do with the silk hearts
>>720778537Simply zoop doop to the other end of the arena when she takes a void shit. Or punish her ass if you're close and she does ball spray into the air, you can hit her like 5 times even as reaper potentially.
>>720781753This. I mean, Hallownest certainly has its own vibe, but the world design, level design, enemy and boss design, and especially the traversal and combat mechanics are just better in Silksong. I don't really know how I feel about the story. And I miss charms, like >>720781792 said. I especially miss charm interactions.Also HK is a finished game with DLC, while Silksong is obviously just the base game.
>>720779016Based
>>720781882>>720781792charms bored me out of my mindthere were only like 4 actual charm builds>the nail build everyone used>spell build where you either use flukemarm or not>meme minion build>meme tank build just the nail build but worse
>Fighting Lace part 2>Get to second phase>Her thrusting attack gets a follow up.>Get hit by the follow up a few times, before I remember to dodge it.>Dodge the follow up, but then she adds a spin jump as part of the combo>Get hit by the follow up spin a few times before I learn to dodge it.>Feeling confident now>thrust, thrust, spin, got it, I can dodge it all now>Get to the third phase of the battle.>Feel like I'm close to the end, but made a number of mistakes, so I'm almost dead.>She thrusts>"Ah, a great opportunity to heal">Thrust... JUMP>She skips the second thrust!>DieFuck ooooofffffffff. God this game is so fucking annoying.
>just got to act 2Bros this game is fucking huge. Hollow Knight 1 wasn't this big was it?
>>720781753They have rose tinted glasses. I did the whole 112% HK days before Silksong released and it is considerably better than the first game.Combat and movement options are so much better it's insane. Tools add a lot of flavor to gameplay.The map has so much more stuff in it.A lot more enemy types.Boss variety is much better.Game is more challenging.
Bros am I a schizo if I think act 1 > Act 2???
>>720781634>The runbacks have somehow been made even worse (a true feat holy hell),You may be missing a shortcut. The only two memory bosses with a long runback also have a shortcut which cuts that down>they close off routes you need to go around and reopen which makes traversal annoyingOnly happens once at the beginning, so you actually witness how much damage it's doing to the citadel>and it especially doesn't feel great that you finally get strong at the end of act 2 only to be made weak again in act 3 because now everything takes way longer to killYou can get another pale oil, also killing the void masses in an area reduces enemies getting voided.
>>720781998It wasn't
>>720781882>Also HK is a finished game with DLC, while Silksong is obviously just the base game.Dumbass
>>720781872that's a pretty shitty excuse. hornet being faster doesn't mean you have to make the world giant and empty and devoid of reason to explore.
Silksong is a better game but I think the metroidvania aspects of the first one were better. This feels more like a platformer than a Metroidvania.
>>720781753>>720782019People had 7 years to get too attached to Hallownest.And while I do agree the somber tone of that kingdom is pure kino, Silksong MOGS most areas in HK.
>>720781723Old one is just another title for higher being
>>720777083It sucks but can be fixed by:1. giving lace way, way more appearances and dialogue before that point (in general this is the biggest flaw with the story, why is lace barely in it if you're going to treat her like she's so important?)2. either cutting the hearts quest entirely or expanding them into full-fledged areaswith these two changes act 3 goes from meh to good instantly
fuck boss reruns, I had to do the runback of judge 5 fucking timesseriously fuck this shit
>>7207820911 is comfier. Like how DKC2 is technically better than DKC1 but you play DKC1 when you want to be comfy.
>>720779681God I hope so. I love Lace and her giggling sarcastic fat ass.
>>720782048the memory bosses are ass even when they don't have extended runbacks like nyleth, just because of all the padding inherent to the mechanic. in hollow knight you wake up next to the boss, charge dream nail for 1 second, and then you drop right into the arena. in siksong you have to play the song for 10 seconds, then watch hornet pass out, then wait on a black screen until you drop into the middle of nowhere and have to run further just to get into the boss room.shit's ass.
>tfw I absolutely love the entirety of act 3
>>720782076I mean, it's true. Base game Hollow Knight has like 2, maybe 3 good bosses, and many of them are just barely-animated ghosts that lazily hover or teleport around the screen shooting projectiles. The parts of Hollow Knight that people bring up most often are either specific story beats, DLC bosses, or pantheons.People regularly compare Silksong to Hollow Knight and then immediately bring up DLC content in their comparisons.
>>720781723Multiple lifetimes probably. Either that or it's just because she's a direct descendant of the Pale King which makes her a somewhat higher being.
>>720779681>fan favoriteI've seen considerably more Sherma, Shakra, and Flea Troupe art than anything relating to Lace
something tells me the people complaining about lost lace are conveniently forgetting that radiant radiance isn't even a reskin it's the exact same boss but faster
>>720780052Yeah. You can turn in any 3 hearts. But if you have all 4, you will always keep the green one. So you must turn in the 3 you don't want, then get the 4th afterwards.
How do I access putrified ducts?
The music and distinct area theming are the two areas that Silksong nearly unarguably blows Hollow Knight out of the water in. I can't believe there are people here who think otherwise.
>>720782361Memorium, keep going right, then go up
>>720782331Yeah because you meet Lace once in the first ten hours if you're playing casually and you see the friendly NPCs a bunch of times.
>>720782361A quest from Songclave will point you to the way.
>>720782331Thats because barely anyone has gotten the true end yet
>>720782301Did you like the inverted castle in SotN?
Holy shit, the Conchcutter fucking cheeses Nyleth so hard. Throw it at the wall a tick above her.
>>720781318This, though to be honest, City of Tears feels like it's from another game, an absurd peak for a somewhat mid game.
>>720782374b-b-but muh greenpath
>>720782048>Only happens once at the beginning, so you actually witness how much damage it's doing to the citadelThat's wrong I've already had to reopen like 3 areas on the map. Did you even explore the map or did you just rush the bosses with a guide?
>>720782313hollow knight took three years to develop including the post-release DLC. silksong took seven. is it really that unreasonable for people to expect an equal quantity of good shit?
>>720782448Yes. I just like complete world alterations in general.
>>720782331And all the Lace art is hard carried by yuri shippers.
>>720782502>an equal quantity of good shitWell it's a good thing that Silksong has more and higher quality content than Hollow Knight then, isn't it
>>720782284fucking thank you holy shit how did they get it right in hollow knight and fuck it up in silksong?
>>720782374hrmm, no
>>720782448the inverted castle in sotn is one of my favorite moments in vidyawhich is why act 3 trying and failing to recreate that same feeling is so disappointing
>>720781253Pogo after charge/dive. Double jump away and punish parries.
Fuck
>american hours kick in>retardation levels reach daily high
>>720782374>distinct area themingyeah like forest 1, forest 2, forest 3, forest 4 and forest 5or maybe swamp 1, swamp 2, or swamp 3
>>720782374i dunno, did the game really need three lava areas, four swamp areas, four green plant-themed areas, etc?
>>720782606I was missing the same one and the funniest thing is I've already forgotten where it was LOLI think it might be High Halls beyond the arena where the conductor used to be
>>720782421I really liked how they used the tracking quests as a way to lead you into hidden areas.
Thats fucking itSomeone make a damn HK/SS area tierlist makerLets settle this
>>720781634>The runbacks have somehow been made even worseIt's funny that Fromsoft basically made an essay on boss runbacks across all their souls games and they concluded (with almost everyone agreeing with them) that short runbacks are way more fun. Then Team Cherry did the exact opposite even though it's inspired in Dark Souls.
>hero voice: offfinally, the game is playable
>>720782374the most memorable area for me was the memorium ironically
first try baybee
is it just me or does the crest of the witch have some sort of input lag? i'd use it if it wasn't for that but it feels so clunky to use. just try and pogo with it, you'll miss like 50% of them
>>720782824>Doesn't want to listen to Hornet's cute voiceWeird.
Farfields is the only area I didnt like in Silksong desuThe lava vents were just boringIt reminded me of how ass Queens Garden was
>>720782727Not seeing it.
>>720782992>Sprint and bonk into a wall>Hornet makes an extra feminine moan sometimes>Dick hard and can't concentrate on the game anymoreTeam Cherry knew what they were doing giving you the option to turn it off
>>720782892Are you using Longclaw?
>act 1: 5/10>act 2: 8/10>act 3: a very generous 3/10The fun parts of this game don't change the fact that I never want to play it again.
>>720782992the voice I imagine in my head is way cuter and far better delivered
>>720782824I thought about doing that in the first 5 minutes but decided against it. Now I don't even see why I thought about it.
>>720782823yeah, runbacks are the worst part of any of these games. i greatly enjoyed karmelita even though she kicked my ass, because actually fighting her was fun. what i didn't enjoy was having to sit through all the padding between each attempt.>play the song for like 10 seconds for no reason>wake up, have to run out of the hazy silk world into the actual arena>can't just go in the front door because it's arbitrarily locked, have to platform around the arena and enter from the back>can't just fight the boss now, have to first fight a gauntlet of trivial enemies that only serve to waste more of your time>NOW you're allowed to have fun again
>crest of the beast>great concept>high speed, high risk high reward playstyle>absolutely impossible to use because you can't pogo with itwhat a fucking letdown
>>720776852how the hell do i reach that place? the passage between Underworks (Architect's shop) and Whiteward? I don't even remember how got here in the first time
>>720778735How do you even go through that area without constantly losing health to the cold?
>>720783176it's a one-way door, you have to come from whiteward.
>>720781723She was born as part of the Vessel experiments, so she's been alive in Hallownest since before the Hollow Knight was born, raised and had Radiance trapped inside. Hallownest presumably had a renaissance for a while before HK started leaking and there's no way to pin down how long that was, or how long it took for Hallownest to reach the state that it's become by the time the Knight shows up in Dirtmouth, or even how much time has passed afterwards until Hornet gets kidnapped and taken to Pharloom.
>>720783176pretty sure it's a one way door. confusing as hell that they have an arrow out
>>720783074Ah, I remember now. There's a superjump path in whiteward. Try exploring there
>>720783176DId you get the Crescent Moon amulet?
>>720783176>how the hell do i reach that place?thats where you exit
>>720783176Whiteward exit-only
opinions on sands of karak?
>>720782331Lace doesn't even have anything worthwile. The other characters join you in your hell and grow alongside you. And fleas are just carried by design
>>720783131because her voice sucks amd serves no value except to ruin the atmosphere your character should not have voice acting if it doesn't have a purposebayonetta's voice in the first game had consistent sounds for every action she did so that you could tell where you were in her combo and what move she was doing just by listening to her voiceline
>>720783309it's depressive but thats kinda the intention
>filters you
First Sinner mogs the other bosses.
>>720783104for me it's Act 1: 8/10Act 2: 10/10Act 3: 6/10 so far
why is watcher at the edge not required for 100%? anyone fought this nigga?
Whew Lost Lace took me way longer than I should have.9/10Probably in my top 5 MVs. Maybe top 10 depending on my mood but the DLC could pump it up again
>>720783219go faster
>>720783309disappointing. i like the gimmick but there's barely any reason to actually go there until act 3, at which point traversing it is trivial.
>>720783239>She was born as part of the Vessel experimentsThat's wrong. She was born from Herrah and the Pale King in exchange for Herrah offering herself up to be used as a Dreamer to keep the Radiance at bay. Hornet isn't a vessel, and also isn't directly related to Void.
>>720783329Ah, you're just an autist. Carry on then.
>>720783158The pogo can be finnicky but when it's good, it's really good. The hitbox is effectively massive.I have a strong feeling that it had uncapped healing at one point and they quickly realized how outrageous it was because you'd just lifesteal tank through everything while building up silk to keep the buff going forever
>>720783104>Act 1 - 7/10>Act 2 - 10/10>Act 3 - 9/10
>got six crest>keep getting locketsWhere the fuck is the seventh one?
>>720783375he drops a memento, mementos aren't required for 100% because most of them are dumb autism shit like killing a dozen of an enemy that appears in one room you have no reason to return to or getting unreasonably high scores in the shitty minigames.
>>720782824The constant erections did add to the challenge, but I consider it part of the experience.
>>720783381I hope they do a lifeblood-eqsue update where they make the elegy areas more like verdania
>>720783235>>720783253>>720783280>>720783282fuckig hell
>>720783375They count tools and various upgrades, but not bosses per se. I think plenty of other stuff isn't really required for 100%.
>>720783329Holy autism. I'm glad you have the option to make the game better for you, but this is absolutely insane reasoning.
>>720783158it's more for bossingno reason to use anything but wanderer for exploring (unless you want to of course)
>>720783438It should have something broken like that in exchange for not getting a blue slot before the second vesticrest.
>>720783375He only drops a memento. 100% tracks things that upgrade your character directly like masks or tools.It's a very meh fight, everything is very telegraphed
>>720778956Get pogo’d, you fluffy nerd!
>>720783329Congrat on being retarded, anon. Hornet's voice is a must for her character
>>720783309I did the entire area way before I was supposed to and now I'm annoyed at the prospect of having to go back for more shit later. At least the tool you get from the tower is fun to use
>>720783438I didn't even notice that endless lifestealing trick. For me I favour builds in videogames where I simply can out-dps anything, like glass cannon builds pretty much. The pogo-ing sure, I did lie it's not impossible but it's really hard, and as soon as I got reaper crest I used that because I had played Hollow Knight and wanted my easy downward pogo back, now I have to go back to not just a diagonal but an arcing pogo, and I just don't want to re-learn it now I am in act 2.Oh well, I plan on playing the game again on Steam because I'm on Switch 2.
>>720783257Thanks. This was so striking I thought the room ended here. Shoulda known better
>>720783410there are no bosses? I'm on act 2 trying to unlock act 3...
>>720783469act 3
>>720783375he jumped into the little tunnel leading to his arena and got stuck for mehis fight seemed super boring and had a long runback so when that happened i just took the free win and moved on
Do the different crest attack have different built-in damage values, or all they all the same with the difference being attack speed? Like, is one swing with Reaper the same as one swing with Hunter, ignoring the speed at which they take place?
>>720783656there's a boss that drops a tool but the only real reason to visit is for the crustnut which is like 20% of the way into the area. whole place feels half-baked.
>>720783723Just attack speed
>>720783723>Do the different crest attack have different built-in damage values,no
>>720783723Damage value all comes from your needle.
just lost 900 rosaries in the runback to the last judge. kill me now
>>720783504Yeah, once I got it I immediately went to the duo red bus mini-boss fight (the club dude and the flying one) at the top of Hunter's March and destroyed them despite being sloppy with the lifesteal mechanic
>>720778209>>720778530Some enemies can sing like npcs but they aggro you if you get too close. It lets you play music to them from far enough away that they don't come after you. As far as I know that's it.
Reaper was actually damn good for Lost Lace, really enables some punishes.
>>720783818Have fun in underworks lmao
>>720783723short: nolong: https://rentry.org/silksongdamage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAauUvsyi68
>>720783723All crests have the same base damage.However, Wanderer has a higher attack speed and a crit chance when your silk bar is full enough. Beast has a damage and attack speed buff when binding. Shaman has built-in range.
Just did coral tower third try the waves and first try the boss, cool as fuck. Holy shit, this board is dogshit to have been crying so much about this. I wish we had an entire underwater area.
>>720783643Yeah, it took me a second as well. That device definitely draws your eye.>>720783640I kinda want a mode where you can start with stuff unlocked because I'd love to do a crest specific runs. I mostly ran hunter and switched if I was struggling a bit or used one after I first unlocked it but it'd be fun to see how a crest feels at both its strongest and weakest moments.
>>720783551>>720783498>>720783435she literally sounds like a retarded Californian her delivery sucksall the voice acting in hollow knight sucks and makes the game feel reddit as fuck, I wish you could turn all of it off
What could the dlc ending possibly be? what ending could be happier than the one we already have?
>>720783881This game will really benefit from both ng+ and randomizer mods.
>>720783930Hornet is Japanese
>>720783930dilate
>>720783930Brown.
>>720783935RETURNTOHALLOWNEST
>>720783930Hey man, I'm calling you an autist because you are, no need to double down, that's just who you are.
>>720783963>grew up in Queenslandshes a bogan
>>720783935Garmond lives, his village is restored via some memory magic chicanery
>>720783860>>720783723Wtf that's bullshit, so you're telling me the slow, reaper normal hit does the same damage as wanderer's normal hits, yet you can literally spam as wanderer like twice as fast?How the fuck is that fair
>>720783874Yeah, playing it I thought I understood the complaints thinking that you had to do every gauntlet per attempt, but once I saw the shortcut I was baffled. Also they should have made Khan faster, he's too easy for that stage of the game
>>720783930>He didn't beat the game
>>720783419I always took it as she is a failed vessel in a form that isn't different than the rest because she's referred to as "the gendered child," that being a clear marker that she was a failure, vessels are supposed to be neutral sexless emotionless mindless and wholly empty.If I'm wrong that has her birth somewhere around the same point, born somewhere alongside the vessel project. Hornet is extremely old.
>Hornet now has to constantly feed Lace her silkHOW IS THIS A GOOD ENDING
>>720781460Presumably in the Blasted Steps?
Is there another nail upgrade after you finish the gourmand quest? The pinmaster alluded to there being more oil
why the fuck there are so many areas with nothing on them?
>>720784017Nah, I'd rather see something new.
>>720784030wanderer is the you did not beat the game crest for a reason
>>720783935Sherma's Pious Adventure. Which spirals into its own 7 year development sequel.
>>720784030Range = good, I beat all the hardest bosses with reaper personally, the down attack is particularly insane because it hits to the sides as well, so you can very easily pogo from next to a boss and regain height.But yes wanderer is rather powerful.
>>720784017She does. She says as much to sherma
>>720776996A higher being that is made out of silk - Hornet states that she, like all higher beings, has a desire to dominate. Like that other anon said - the divine naturally want to conquer, control, and have mastery over things. Thus the Weaver Queen ending. Hornet lets her base higher being instinct do the decision making and she becomes the new Weaver god./spoiler]Silk is just as she is. A higher being made out of living Silk just like how Lace is and similar to how the Pale Lady is a tree. Some are just non-biological objects which also probably includes some Iron-casted god too with the Steel Soul lore. It kinda makes me wonder where higher beings come to be outside of Shade Lord and natural birth considering they all have to come from somewhere. There's also the Land of Storms gods too.
>>720784030Wanderer downside supposedly is the non-existent range.
>>720784081literal sex slave made of silk that'll stay eternally young
>>720784081she can make lace her slave by threatening to withold her silk
>>720784075Hornet was never supposed to be a vessel. Herrah wouldn't have agreed to that deal.
>>720783935Sex with Sherma while Lace watches
>>720784081She doesn't have to be alone anymore
>>720784081We got the Prisma Illya ending. Extremely based.
>>720784035You have to do 3 until you unlock the shortcut, still fine when you learn the enemies, pogo + claw is the secret to a lot of them.
>Thought I did as much as I could before getting the bad end (except the Huntress quest)>Still missing three mask piecesShitDo I only kill things in her area or does it have to be a specific monster or what
>>720784120It's not even that bad. It's only really noticeable against flyers. But they're annoying in general and clawline fucks most of them up anyway.
>>720784182Not a specific monster, and it's fairly intuitive which tools make which kinda meat. I recommend pondskimmers by Bellhart because there's a ton of them and they have low HP
>>720784081Imagine her feeding Lace, silk straight out of her futa cock...
>>720784118What's the deal with the pale lake?
>painstakingly make my way down from Bilewater after beating the boss>reach the station and sit on the bench>check map and notice I missed a path at the very very top to the left of the boss arenahaha
>>720784182The organs quest? Just kill shit with different tools, it's ez.
>>720784075Hornet's not a vessel. When the Pale King was looking for powerful people to act as dream guardians he asked Herrah, and Herrah said she'd do it on the condition that the King gives her an heir. Hornet is the result of their affair.>>720784085Yeah it's near Grindle's shop
>>720784114Eh, I am using reaper purely because I thought it would have the largest damage modifier, considering how slow it is.I'm pissed off, why would they make the crests not equal dps
>>720780958last 5 memory lockets didn't increase my % rate
Nerf Lost Lace.
Is this bugged for anyone else? Hornet won't fill this in next to Wisp Thicket
>>720784234Some people can move in.
are there really no shortcuts on sands of karak?
post yfw pantheon of pharloom
worst silk spool yetthankfully the last
>>720784271There's several what are you on. Hit the giant stalactites.
>>720784297>double Savage BeastflyKINOOOOO
>literally no phantom artWhy? She cute and she’s not even that hidden, she’s a trading card ffs
>>720784017
>>720784271hit the stalagtite and use the bench near the dog station in blasted
>>720784270Oh, I 100%'d the game already. I'm just asking but why does it exist?
>>720784307i transheart steam achievements
>>720784075She's gendered because she's a regular bug and not a vessel, and wasn't intended to be one. She is crazy old however.
>>720784348why do lakes exist in real life? they just do
>>720784259Guess they join the list of things you can skip thenMaybe the rewards from Eva give %?
>>720784297savage beastfly but if you don't do enough damage it starts spawning the far niggers from high halls
>>720784407but it's pale
>>720781460That's what they were? I didn't catch that. Now I feel bad for killing them. The journal text helped me cope because it talked about them growing into something bad. But if it's just judges then infanticide is definitely not warranted.
>>720784297>Phanteon of Pain>Groal the Great>Savage Beastfly x2>First Sinner>Tormented Trobbio>Skarrsinger Karmelita>Lost Lace>Woken Grand Mother Silk
NOOOOOOOOOOO
>>720784081Imagine the brat taming Hornet can do now that Lace is entirely dependent on her to live.
>>720784462https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hdzH_aSL-6k
>>720784480craftmetal is kind of a bitch
>>720784224I've already simulated it. I can't see how anyone could call this a "bad ending".
>>720784480It was the same for meget the ore from the Wisp Thicket if you haven't
>>720784426binding eva gives a % so 15 lockets are necessary
>>720784234The entirety of Bilewater used to look like that before the Citadel fucked it all up.
>>720784334the best characters are always the most underappreciated
Seth sucked ass, another anti-fun boss with a spammed attack you can’t punish and have to dodge over and overHe was giga cringe, sad that kid died of cancer because it got him put into the game
Is The Slab act 3? I found one key but now I need another one to progress
>>720784118I have not finished Act 3 yet, trying to beat Flea Juggle is really taking it out of me and I want the damage upgrade before fighting the rest of the bosses, but my pet hackneyed theory is that Grand Mother Silk, much like the Pale Wyrm, arrived in Pharloom and changed her form to fit her goals. The Weavers were her chosen children, so she put on the visage of a spider, but in reality I think she is a silkworm/moth, the originator of true silk instead of spiderweb. The main reason I've thought this is that constantly, everywhere in Pharloom you see moths. From the beginning to the end they are absolutely everywhere, they guide Hornet on her journey all the way to GMS.
>>720784639Oh, you know I did not make the connection that all of the citadel's industrial waste was getting dumped out through the exhaust organ and that's why bilewater is so hateful until just now.
>>720784654You can get in in act 2. Just have to get captured by a ugly bastard.
>>720784081hornet is into [soft and huge] bugs.being made of silk, lace is naturally soft.and needing silk to live, hornet can simply overfeed lace to make her bigger.hornet has all she wants>a forever companion>a huge and, with time, soft companion
>>720784663That reminds me, who exactly freed Hornet at the start of the game? Was it really just one of the moths?
>>720784654nope. 100% act 2. I think the only reason to even go back there in act 3 is for mister mushroom
>>720784263Do not do this.
>>720784663>everywhere in Pharloom you see mothswhere? apart from the big one on the top of mount fay
>>720784841im retarded i forgot all the lil ones>>720784792>Was it really just one of the moths?one of them touched the cage
>>720784792Remember how Lace was conducting moths? She felt like Hornet was going to replace her as GMS's daughter so she tried to dispose of her, or at least stop her from showing up.
>>720784792it's lace, she commands the butterflies in the leadup to her first fight.she hates GMS and knows that she would stop being relevant if GMS got her hands on hornet, so she frees hornet thinking she'll just leave. hornet is too autistic to let that go, so she then tries to kill hornet to keep her away from GMS and obviously fails because she's a jobber.
>>720784792Lace. She was commanding the soul moths
>>720784663The moths belong to Lace and they keep showing up because she's stalking you. Except in the Mists where I think those particular moths belong to Phantom.
>>720784791I didn't know that the canonical crest was the architect's one
>>720784934>she hates GMSWhatever gave you that idea?
>>720782823Silksong is inspired by the good Souls games, not the shitty casualized new ones.
>>720784297>Groal the Great with bottomless pits instead of maggot water
>I was told this was the hardest boss8 tries, she just blocks attacks... That's it, that's her difficulty?
how tf were you supposed to find voltnest without a guide?
>>720784996have you even played the game? she flat-out says as much in act 3.
>>720785041Forgot to ask can you open the door next to her?
>>720785057Possibly from the obvious hole in the roof shitting out purple light.
>>720785041She took me hours but I suck ass. Don't think you can open the door.
>>720785034you do comprehend that DeS (game with the longest runbacks) is way easier than ER or DS3, right? also if you support runbacks then you're basically admitting you're a DS2 tranny
which do you think is worse to live in, hallownest post-infection or pharloom post-haunting
>>720785040bottomless pits would be an upgrade from the maggot water desumaggots effectively do 3-4 damage due to completely eating a bar of silk
>>720785107>>720785107>>720785107
>>720785057The clue is that there's a Voltnest section inside the Karak section of the Memorium, but that's not much to go in.The actual answer I guess is every other ceiling in this fucking game is a liar.
>>720785149Counterpoint: Maggots are effectively harmless albeit inconvenient if you're not getting slapped around by real threats.
>>720785041>8 tries required to beat her>while also probably using the "you did not beat the game" crest/tools
Kek rather dissatisfying
>>720785076I don't remember her saying anything of the sorts
>>720785164You fucking retard, let the others find the thread instead. Mods will want to delete these threads if you act like it's a general.
>>720783930Obligatory (you)
>>720784118>Hornet states that she, like all higher beings, has a desire to dominateSo uh, how did pale king and white lady get together if their natures clashed?
>>720785330Sexo
>>720785148Pre-infection Hallownest >> Haunted Pharloom > Infected Hallownest >> Pre-haunted Pharloom.
>>720784996Stabbing her and laughing at both their fates while in the void kinda says it all
>>720784480>Construct tool?Yes it is.
>>720785261>hunter crest>0 toolsHow does that make you feel?
>>720784649same, hated that fight
>>720785413She did that for hornet not because she hates silk
>>720785270>letting you live was my rebellion, spider. i've denied my mother your silken strength. i've won.>she can thrash, and waste, and know her pathetic, broken child caused the mortal wound.clearly she thinks highly of GMS.
>>720785145>you do comprehend that DeS (game with the longest runbacks) is way easier than ER or DS3, right?And yet casuals can't stand it because they're ADHD zoomies who fell for the "muh runbacks" meme the hivemind suddenly started parroting five years ago.
>>720785534>"muh runbacks" meme the hivemind suddenly started parroting five years agopeople coming up with an obvious conclusion has nothing to do with hivemind
>>720785449You alright, white boy. Could've been 6 or 5, but 8 is fine for 1st time.
>>720785678Ah yes, it's such an obvious conclusion that it only became a common complaint after the series went mainstream and the fanbase got infested by ADHD zoomies.
>>720785678The guy argument was calling it a meme and that's it, he didn't even attempt to explain his reasoning. Don't bother with him.
>>720785509How can she say that when she's all void raged in the lake?
>>720785827>-oomer buzzwordyou weren't there, sorry
>>720785330Shared desire to dispose of the Radiance.
>>720786013i understand you didn't play the game and just watched someone else play it, but she says that during the first abyss visit.
>>720786209I'm watching biboo
>>720777025The King will be the DLC
>>720780672I bet you the DLC will have them upgraded, especially if we get a Godhome equivalent. The only question is though, HOW would you upgrade them?>WandererMake the crit chance happen even if you don't have a full bar of silk?>BeastMake it so you heal more then 3 from rage? Do more damage in rage the lower the HP you have is?>ReaperSilk skills cost less to perform?Charged strike gives silk?>WitchChance to use equipped silk skill for free?Healing roots give silk?>ShamanIncrease distance of shockwave?Increase damage of silk skill even more?>ArchitectMake tools do more damage?Give a passive regeneration of tools?
>>720780756If you have the harp tool, you can use the Needolin to cause her to have dialog, this is easiest when she is stunned. If you do it 4 times, she gives up and starts crying. She is effected by it a lot because she is a being of Silk and Silk is what carries the song.
