Why do they get absolutely zero criticism despite being by far the scummiest, dirtiest and most evil corporation in modern gaming? Mass layoffs, "games as a service" nonsense, AI slop, they do it all. And yet nobody dares say a word against them. Meanwhile Nintendo gets labelled as "the worst company ever" for simply pricing games 10-20 dollars more than people would like.
I've been saying for years they are the worst thing to happen to the industry.
>>720784282Seriously. Imagine how much better things would be if the Xbox never existed, and Sega retained their place as the 3rd major console manufacturer.
They'll scrub you off the internet faster than you can say "Fuck me in the ass, Microsoft".
>>720782943>Nintendo gets labelled as "the worst company ever" for simply pricing games 10-20 dollars more than people would like.That the price of tariffs I mean freedom
They get monumental criticism but unfortunately their monopoly on B2B software means they're basically grafted to every part of the software industry
>>720784875"Not as bad as Microsoft" is not the bar for a company as brand reliant as Nintendo
>>720782943Nah, that's Sony. They were the ones that caused the japanese censorship shit, moved to california and continue to add woke shit in the anime industry.Nobody cares about MS because they do all of that but fail because nobody cares, Sony however, they have way more influence over japan territory and are the root cause of all the crap we are getting from them
>>720782943Because Microsoft is legitimately more consumer friendly than Nintendo and Sony>not only lets you play OG Xbox and Xbox 360 games on modern consoles through physical discs, but also upscale and improve the performance for some games free of charge>Xbox One controllers work on Series consoles and vice versa>has a program called "Play Anywhere" where you're getting both Xbox version and PC versions of the game (on microsoft store though)>made dev mode free of charge, so you can install emulators and emulate xbox 360 games for free on their own consolesand last but not least>actually accepts refunds even after playing the gameThey're still pretty shit at managing their studios though, and increasing the prices of consoles was retarded too
>>720782943People do shit on them but like Sony, Microsoft drowns it all out by paying people to shut up, so their shills are louder. But it doesn't matter how loud their shills are, people's dissatisfaction shows with low sales and no one using their game store.>>720784282Yup, they fucked gaming up during the 7th generation.
>>720785245Everything about current Sony in gaming was learned from Microsoft during the 7th generation.
Microsoft gets a pass because all their games are third party now, so it's like EA or Ubisoft being evil. The $30 paid early access is by far the worst thing in gaming though and I don't think anything else is close, I refuse to buy any game that does that including non Microsoft titles like Death Stranding 2.
>>720785813>not only lets you play OG Xbox and Xbox 360 games on modern consoles through physical discs, but also upscale and improve the performance for some games free of chargeThat stops in 2026 when they start having third parties make their Xboxes.>Xbox One controllers work on Series consoles and vice versaControllers that stifle innovation. Microsoft's controller is stuck in the 7th generation like they are.>has a program called "Play Anywhere" where you're getting both Xbox version and PC versions of the game (on microsoft store though)A program no one uses with most devs not wanting to use it meaning it'll always have no games.>made dev mode free of charge, so you can install emulators and emulate xbox 360 games for free on their own consolesWhy bother when you can just use a PC, plus they took that away anyway.You forgot that it took them until massive backlash this generation to stop charging for free-to-play games and they even almost raised the price of Xbox Live. Go shill somewhere else, they suck.
>>720785941The 360 was leading the gaming consoles until sony decided to become movie games company to appeal to normies, that's when everything became garbage.
>>720782943Microsoft gets zero criticism because they're the most irrelevant console maker, besides meme shit like Playdate.
>>720786389NTA. No, that's bullshit. 360 was leading the gaming consoles until they went full retard with Kinect.
>tfw don't use any M$ products. Just stop giving them money. Use Linux, don't buy consoles or gamepass slop.
>>720786563>NTASure samefag, Also, you forgot the PS3 Move was revealed at the same E3 along with Kinect. Why do you defend Sony so much that you even lie about it? fucking disgusting
>>720786389Nope, Sony was great until the PS3, they fell off with the PS3 because they didn't want the types of games that were on PSX or PS2 on it, those were relegated to the PSP, but they still made better games than Microsoft despite the PS3 being a bitch to work on. 360 era Microsoft were on a warpath to destroy, Eastern, Western, console, and PC gaming just to have their way. They paid off game journalists, changed up how game development work pushing for corporate development, pushed heavily towards advertisement. They corrupted everyone they touched from their own first party developers, to third party developers, and they even manage to corrupt Sony leading them to changing their direction to pushing hyper-realistic movie games. Microsoft caused a lot including paid online.
>>720786897Sony didn't force anyone interested in a PS4 to buy a Move.Microsoft did try to force everyone interested in a One to buy the fucking Kinect, which made the console way expensive than it should've been.
>>720787469This, PS Eye, PS Move, PSVR/VR2, PS Portal are all optional, not mandatory. Sony is shit, but somehow Microsoft is worse. That's why Xbox is meeting a worse fate than PlayStation.
>>720787791Microsoft made Kinect optional to run the One, but you still had to buy it. It made the One 100 dollars more expensive than 4. It was fucking retarded.
>>720786383>That stops in 2026 when they start having third parties make their Xboxes.Source on how they're gonna get rid of backwards compatibility?>Controllers that stifle innovation.Why? because of muh gyro?Also I prefer the controllers to be forwards compatible than making dumb changes. If ain't broke, don't fix it>A program no one uses with most devs not wanting to use it meaning it'll always have no games.I still use it and I find it pretty neat that progress of your games on xbox carries over PC>plus they took that away anyway.you're confusing dev with retail mode>Go shill somewhere else, they suck.still better than Jewtendo. Imagine paying for next gen enhancement
>>720782943Probably because they basically exited the console war.
>>720782943Mass layoffs are great. Most of the studios they acquired deserve to die too, can't wait for Arkane's turn.
>>720789339>Source on how they're gonna get rid of backwards compatibility?KeplerL2, MLID, and Jez Corden. Microsoft's next gen "console" is just an APU they're giving to third party hardware companies to make their own Xboxes starting with a living room one in 2026. It's a PC with Xbox full-screen experience, Windows desktop, and Game Launchers like the ROG Xbox Ally but no backwards compatibility because it's Win32 and would cause legal issues playing games from Xbox One/Series ERA dev environment.>Why? because of muh gyro?Yup along with no back buttons>Also I prefer the controllers to be forwards compatible than making dumb changes. If ain't broke, don't fix itThat's fine until you start forcing everyone else to follow your shitty guidelines, you're stagnating innovation. If you can't innovate, get out.>I still use it and I find it pretty neat that progress of your games on xbox carries over PCThat's cool but third parties don't really care about it.>you're confusing dev with retail modeDoesn't matter, PC exist for this>still better than Jewtendo. Imagine paying for next gen enhancementMicrosoft is worse than current Sony and that's saying something.
>>720782943>Why do they get absolutely zero criticismit's more fun to watch them fuck up year after year. "this is an xbox" is the funniest shit they've done.
Windows is great. If you don't like gaming as a subscription then either use torrents or buy discount games on steam or gog.
Because they release their games in Playstation 5 and Nintendo Switch 2 that gives them a lot of "leeway" in terms of bullshit that Sony and Nintendo get crucified for on the internet but all that criticism means jack squat when you're #1 and #2 in the video game world.
>>720782943>absolutely zero criticismHuh? Everyone shits on xbox and w11 tho.
>>720790018>It's a PC with Xbox full-screen experience, Windows desktop, and Game Launchers like the ROG Xbox Ally but no backwards compatibility because it's Win32 and would cause legal issues playing games from Xbox One/Series ERA dev environment.Well that's a shameI hope at least they keep manufacturing the Xbox series consoles for a while>Yup along with no back buttonsUnnecessary >That's fine until you start forcing everyone else to follow your shitty guidelines, you're stagnating innovation.What fucking innovation? Don't you tell me you're one of those retarded who think gimmick = innovation Dualshock 2 controllers perfected the console controllers, everything else is a nice addition at most, but not a necessity. Xbox controllers been fine since 360>That's cool but third parties don't really care about it.They do have plenty of third party appsBut the point is, being able to have two copies of the same game is neat>Microsoft is worse than current Sony and that's saying something.I wasn't talking about how well they're doing financially, nobody is arguing that.But in terms how consumer friendly they are, which is pretty mind boggling to see
>>720782943>And yet nobody dares say a word against them.more like saying anything is pointlessthey fucking lostits over for xbox
>>720790981>I hope at least they keep manufacturing the Xbox series consoles for a whileknowing Microsoft, they're probably going to discontinue those next year.>UnnecessaryLike Microsoft's contributions to gaming>What fucking innovation? Don't you tell me you're one of those retarded who think gimmick = innovationEveryone outside of Microsoft have been pushing controller innovation forward>Dualshock 2 controllers perfected the console controllers, everything else is a nice addition at most, but not a necessity. Xbox controllers been fine since 360Dualsense makes the Xbox Series controller look like dated shit.>They do have plenty of third party appsThat won't be optimized for the hardware since the PC Microsoft Store has even less games than the Xbox version getting discontinued.>But in terms how consumer friendly they are, which is pretty mind boggling to seeNot gonna last, they need that money for AI
what? doesn't everyone hate micropeni$?
>>720782943I don't know, I feel the contrary, everyone shits on Microsoft for everything
>>720782943Journous shit on xbox constantly, they couldn't even get a single moneyhat during xbox one gen without getting an article while sony and nintendo could easily get away with it
>>720782943Microsoft doesn't make games.Sony doesn't make games.Nintendo makes games.
>>720792064This
>>720791863>Everyone outside of Microsoft have been pushing controller innovation forwardSure thing anon. Why don't you name them?What are these "innovations" do most game devs uses nowadays? Muh gyro?
>>720792683>gyro>haptics>mouse movement>motion controls>touchpads>trackpads>back buttons>rechargeable batteriesA lot of this stuff have been helpful to FPS games, unlike Microsoft's gimped piece of shit.
>>720782943>absolutely zero criticismKek, Microsoft is the ultimate asshole company and Bill Gates is the first name people can come up with when talking about evil billionaires. That said, you have to think what the concept of a company entitled in the year 2000. Rich people were far worse than this. A company trying to make money doesn't impress anybody. It was the fact that a nerd could become rich by using computers what impressed society.Same thing with Google. This thread should be about how Google is the devil. You should be old enough to remember how everyone praised Google, like this saint enterprise that came to solve all our problems without asking for anything in return. Still remember the articles about the healthiest working conditions, and innovative altruistic bussiness practices
>>720792879>>gyro>>mouse movement>>motion controls>>touchpads>>trackpadsJust use mouse and keyboard at this point>>hapticsWhat non-snoy games that uses that shit? Vibrations is enough>>back buttonsonce again, it's unnecessaryThe fact your idea """innovation""" is turning the console controller into a mouse when you can simply use mouse and keyboard is peak retardationCase in point here>A lot of this stuff have been helpful to FPS gamesAnd none of them can beat mouse and keyboardControllers are more suited for fast-paced action games, not for shooters
>>720793675>Just use mouse and keyboard at this pointThen FPS games shouldn't come to consoles if console can't emulate PC controls. Meaning, Xbox shouldn't get FPS games.>What non-snoy games that uses that shit? Vibrations is enoughnon-Xbox shit>once again, it's unnecessaryWhy not?>The fact your idea """innovation""" is turning the console controller into a mouse when you can simply use mouse and keyboard is peak retardationI guess that's why Xbox is dead then.>Controllers are more suited for fast-paced action games, not for shootersNintendo, Valve, hell even Sony showed they can work on anything. Microsoft are just the odd retards out.
OP is living in bizarro world lol
>>720782943They get shit on constantly despite best attempts by ResetEra/Reddit/Twitter/Youtube to damage control for free on their behalf.
>>720793886>Then FPS games shouldn't come to consoles if console can't emulate PC controls.Tell that to publishers. the most popular FPS series (COD and Battlefield) is mostly sold on consoles>non-Xbox shitSo it's only snoy shit that uses these "innovative" ideas, got it>Nintendo, Valve, hell even Sony showed they can work on anything.I wasn't talking any certain companies here, dumbass. I was talking how you're trying to turn controllers into glorified PC mice, when you simply use mouse and keyboard instead.I genuinely can't think of a multiplatform game that came out in the last five years where the PS1 controller layout wasn't enough, everything else has been gimmicky shit
>>720792879the only good thing you mentioned are back buttons, but xbox sony and nintendo don't provide them without their pro controller so none of the developers can built in games with two additional buttons in mind.
>>720794648>Tell that to publishers. the most popular FPS series (COD and Battlefield) is mostly sold on consolesI don't care>So it's only snoy shit that uses these "innovative" ideas, got itAstrobot but I don't play Snoy shit so the hell do I know, lol.>I wasn't talking any certain companies here, dumbass.I said they made it work, Microsoft is holding this industry back in many ways both similar to Sony and even beyond Sony.>I was talking how you're trying to turn controllers into glorified PC mice, when you simply use mouse and keyboard instead.That's where they're being taken, get over it. Microsoft shouldn't started this shit when they tried to ruin FPS with that garbage sci-fi series, Halo.>I genuinely can't think of a multiplatform game that came out in the last five years where the PS1 controller layout wasn't enough, everything else has been gimmicky shitI used to be excited for the advancement in controllers alongside their consoles. Microsoft stagnated the industry.>>720795182Hopefully, now with Microsoft's influence being dead, they can use most of that stuff now.
>>720796625>Hopefully, now with Microsoft's influence being dead, they can use most of that stuff now.xbox elite controller is the first one out of big three to have back buttons? I don't like microsoft either but you are just retarted
>>720796701>EliteIs it in their base controller, faggot, no, then shut the hell up. I have many reasons to hate these evil ass company. There isn't any videos on how they damaged this industry, what the hell is this. There can't legitimately be anyone who actually likes a fucking Xbox.
>>720797083*this evil
>>720797083switch 2, playstation 5 don't provide back buttons in their base controllers either. Shit on everyone equally if you have to do it
>>720797178I'm going to shit on the company that nearly ruined the entire fucking industry, as a whole, Microsoft. I shit on Sony from learning from them after the PS3 failed. Gaming would have been better if Microsoft never entered console gaming. I wish the Xbox 360 failed.
>>720782943Hello welcome to the internet. Since this is clearly your first day on it.What the fuck do you mean "no one says a word" against them you ignorant halfwit?
