For all the things the show did wrong, she was the one of the few good parts
Drinking piss
>>720789691She was cute
>>720789732Absolutely based fetish.
>>720789691It's incredible that shonen series can't allow the female party member to actually be useful but this hot bitch being the mvp of the final fights just proving that japanese are cowards.
>>720789691Cheats codes , unlimited MP
>>720789691>For all the things the show did wrong, she was the one of the few good parts>took the church ordained witch and turned her into an oppressed gypsyFROM THE TWISTED MIND OF WARREN ELLIS
>>720789691I don't know who that is, i just know she's in the background of this picture of Alucard.
I don't know why you guys hated this show so much. I thought it was great, considering its based on a game whose plot like was literally "Dracula is bad because uuhhhh he just is okay?"
>>720794716The first season was really good, it went downhill fast from there
>>720789970Its really just that all these male writers never talk to women so they never know how to write them outside of family figures. And by the time they're famous and rich enough to fake relations, the fans already expect a certain status quo.
>>720794785Yeah, they should hire rapists that get pulled from their shows like castlevania did.
>>720789691Her spanish accent reminds me of my aunt
>>720794716They made Trevor a literal reddit tier atheist, he was never that in the games.
>>720794716>its based on a game whose plot like was literally "Dracula is bad because uuhhhh he just is okay?"I get what you're saying, but that's all the more reason I'm baffled by the show being so talky with terrible dialogue. The games are just Indiana Jones doing the Monster Mash (a graveyard smash), but the show doesn't capitalize on that much at all.
>>720794716writer obviously has no actual knowledge of castlevania just the surface level shit.Alucard's mom goes to Drac's Castle to study medicine, wtf?
>>720789691Video games..?
>>720794716Usual netflix retardarion, too many brown people, feminism, gay shit. Also the show petered out before alucard got his cunny reward for taking it up the ass, and that's just a shame.
>>720794716>considering its based on a game whose plot like was literally "Dracula is bad because uuhhhh he just is okay?"Just because you are ignorant of the games doesn't mean that others are as ignorant as you.
>>720794716>I don't know why you guys hated this show so muchbecause I actually played the games
>>720798616yes, called castlevanianow fuck off
>>720794716The first season was great. Then after luring us in with that they pulled a their modern western animation tropes on us
>>720794785>>720789970This is why the best shonen, Fullmetal Alchemist, was written by a woman, and it has extremely competent female characters.
>>720798669He's being reductive but he's correct in the broad sense of the games not having a story worth caring about. Even in SotN there isn't much to Dracula, and the less said about Lament of Innocence's embarrassing additions the better.
>Alucard bi scene
>>720794716I found no issues with the first season other than "reddit dialog" Everyone dropping F bombs like they're in 1995 ghetto LA.Everything after is just garbage.
>>720798625The Maria/Alucard romance could have redeemed them, they were so close too.
>>720789970It was also cringe. A Mary Sue who just pulls better and better magic out of her ass as the show goes on without any moments of growth or evidence of training.It's like the opposite of some shitty jp media because it's by a bunch of insufferable wokies at Netflix that are trying to directly contradict everything they've ever seen and trying to "fix" it
>>720798813she's also based, because someone asked her why so many of her female characters are hot, and her response was that pretty everyone she draws is hot, because in her own words"Men should be buff/muscular, women should be va-va-voom!"she understands that you shouldn;t make ugly people in fiction unless them ugly actually serves a purpose narratively (like Dr Marcoh's facial scarring), but by default you should be design attractive characters to appeal to people
>>720799572>she understands that you shouldn;t make ugly people in fiction unless them ugly actually serves a purpose narratively (like Dr Marcoh's facial scarring), but by default you should be design attractive characters to appeal to peopleNo. Everything should be ugly and everyone should be miserable.
>>720794716I enjoyed it, my only major complaint was that I didn't like Death's constant cursing, and it felt like a waste for Malcolm McDowell to read those lines (he was good casting for Death, but the writing lets it down)I don't have a problem with Trevor or any of the random peasants swearing, and I also don't care about Trevor being an indifferent Christian (knowing god exists and believing god to be worthy of praise are 2 different things)
>>720799572FMA is a comic for boys in junior high. Of course she draws hot women.
>>720800335Right, I forgot the part of growing up where you're supposed to stop being attracted to attractive people.
I barely remember what happens in this show
Shhh, the real people are talking. ;)
>>720798813>ullmetal Alchemist, was written by a woman, and it has extremely competent female characters.Why is it so blatantly obvious that you retards never read FMA and are just talking shit?
>>720798625It's canon though. Alucrad is complete opposite of his father. So if Dracula is straight, then Alucard should be faggot.
I watched 2 episodes of the newest season on a plane trip, then went back to playing vampire survivors with the castlevania DLC.I dont know why i decided that plane trip would be vampire focused, but i didnt like the show enough to continue and vamp survivors was total ludo.
>>720789691>Dude sex scenes lmao so mature >No sylpha sex sceneStill mad
>>720806353Ice cold beer > Sylpha sex
Show was peak, game had ass story. It's either basic bitch jrpg isekai dragon quest stuff, which is extremely boring, or corny poetics waxing of shitty translations, which are more disingenious than the show itself was. Show actually had interesting world and characters
I only liked Trevor from this show, from drunkard and depressed to actually having fun hunting vampires with his hot wife to the epic moment when he's going to sacrifice himself to beat that shit-talker "Death". He was suprisingly written as a Chad (at least a bare min.) and wasn't expecting it at all from W.Ellis.
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>>720794716I hated the faggot mudslim ((peace be uppon him)lol).They licked the ass of mudslims so fucking much it was absolutely disgusting to see, and the fucking faggotery, the dykes, all that were the shitty parts.
>>720804568>tfw no sexy vampire woman to enslave you and treat you like a pet(that she has sex with)
>>720798813>This is why the best seinen, Dorohedoro, was written by a woman, and it has extremely competent female characters.ftfy
>>720794716Dracula is bad in the show for literally the same reasons he is in the games, that's actually the ONE fucking thing they DIDN'T deviate on
>>720798851That's where I dropped it. Imagine being his father realizing that his son is gay. No wonder he comes back each time with more hatred against humanity lol
>>720806153 Bro just invented the gay yin-yang theory. By that logic Carmilla should’ve been a celibate monk and Hector a turbo virgin. Dracula was straight and still managed to nuke the human race over one woman, Alucard swings both ways and just wants a nap and some books. It's not deep, it's just melodramatic vamp nonsense and I love it.
Carmila needs rape correction.
>>720789691Good things in pozzedmania>Trevor>Sypha>their relationship>Alucard (until they rediculed him)>his banter with Trevor>Lenore (death scene hit me in my kokoro)>intro (specifically ep1's)>bloody tears remix at the end of S2>fights and animation ranged from cool to awesomeThis is it. I guess also unpopular opinion: for all the manhating bitch she was, Carmilla went down like a boss in the end. Plus if you're a domfag, I guess you'll like her. She's clearly attractive. But then again Lenore already exists.
>>720806898>It's either basic bitch jrpg isekai dragon quest stuffNo?> Show actually had interesting world and charactersThis is my problem, this show doesn't exist in a vacuum, everything that was interesting actually was a somewhat faithful element(Devil Forging), and the seasons that were almost entirely original were boring trash. The games were actually fun and did cool stuff with their premise, but the Netflix Show world, even on its own it's really poorly written and self-contradictoryHell the act of Devil Forging in the show went from an alchemy practice of transmuting materials into demons to "lol magic knife/hammer turn anything it touches in a random shitty zombie" it's fucking stupid and no longer has any logic or consistency. The source material may not have been verbose, but it was dense with atmosphere and style. It said a lot with charm and aura while getting away with very light actual writing, which is something Netflixvania will never be able to do because it's too busy trying to bore you to tears.
>generic netflix sweatshop animation>nothing matters and everyone mumbles into the microphone and says fuck all the time BUT DON'T YOU DARE SAY NIGGER>science and islam are le based>writing team is full of redditors that think working for netflix is owning capitalism and the original material is problematic wasted opportunity but still better than the shit heap that is Nocturne
>>720808234yeah and when was all of that ever explored in games? None of the popular ones have any lore or characters worth talking about.
>>720808259Bitch broke my boy trevor and ruined curse of darkness. Thankfully she self corrects herself
>>720794716>*fwlp fwlp flpwp whap whap whap* ah ah fuck my tight little poohole *wap wap plop plop* ah ah oooh oooh OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH *cums*What DID Alucard mean by this?
>>720808519Everything I mentioned is from games; the show itself hardly explores anything worthwhile beyond ARUGABLY the first 2 seasons, and even then, it completely fucked up the second one outside of a few good moments. The first season was also literally based on a script that was being overseen by IGA, who kept rejecting all of Ellis retarded drafts. Once he was out of the picture, curious how the show went to complete shit with wannabe game of thrones trash
>>720808759The first season was a movie cut up into a few parts
>>720798851Never canon.
>>720808892And it was the best part of the show, but yes, it was based on an old script for a proposed Castlevania 3 movie, and even the goat fucking dialogue was concocted ages ago, Warren Ellis even wrote about how he wanted to beat up IGA, who kept telling him to rewrite the script
The frustrating thing about Netflix Castlevania is that they sometimes pull out half-decent designs. I'm still a fan of Nocturne's Maria, if for nothing other than her looks.
>>720809019It's not like they themselves came up with that design anyway, but it was good that they aimed for the Ayami Kojima style for most of the designs of the characters who are actually from the games
Sypha a CUTE
>>720808259>no vampire qt making you her slave during climaxlife isnt fair
>>720808259The way pic related died still pisses me off to this day , what a fucking hypocrite
>>720808172Godbrand (me) could have fixed her
>>720809363Realistically speaking, show's Carmilla needed a firm hand but also, gay as it sounds, compassion and genuine care. The show makes you think that her (comical at times) dislike of men essentially stems from how she had been treated by her "old" vamp master. The show doesn't tell, but you can imagine a lot of degrading fucked up things he could have done to her for centuries that fostered that hate.Of course that doesn't excuse most of the things that she did afterwards. But she's one of those "I can fix her" cases, not "rape correction". Because her master probably did the latter to her as well.
>>720809353kinda poetic, she mocked hector for wanting to keep pets but when she become hector's pet she 48% herself
Trannyvania bleeeeeeegh
>>720810535Ayami Kojima's favorite.
>Itt. Retards with horrendously shit taste.
>>720810201That why Godbrand would be able to fix her>vampire (Carmilla would never be able to bond with a human)>young>sane>charismatic enough to temporarily unite other vampires>smart enough to recognize Dracula’s plan for a suicide pact>knows when to be loyal and when to turn you into a boatHe definitely would be able to deter her from getting too ambitious with her schemes
>>720810765metroidvania fans?
>>720789691Watched the series a few years ago is nocturne worth watching?
>>720789691I definitely missed her presence in Nocturne.
>>720811242I enjoyed it but it is extremely retarded
>>720789691The one part of the show I remember is when she and the MC, I don't remember which Belmont they went with, sat on a cart and told eachother they had lots of fun., which is nice and all but it sounded really dumb.
>20 minutes of penis innuendo into with a penis window segue
>set up sex slave hector>have no sex slavingwe were robbed
>>720811242meh, mostly the fights are worth watching.>French revolution>actually the French were inspired by negros>Blackwashed YAS QUEEN with godlike powers shits on everyone powerlevel-wise>Richter is impotent till the moment he gets a boner for black queen>Strong indepentent women are the main focus... both as MCs and antagonists>Christianity is bad once again>One of the female characters has daddy issues
>>720811946forgot the faggotry, like 2-3 scenes of gay sex which was like the majority of the sex scenes
>>720808965Anon, Japanese media do not recognize "canon" in pop-culture, unlike the West. They don't give a shit about it, which is why every single one of their properties has a 1000 retcons and 10 alternative versions.
>>720794716>Dracula is bad because uuhhhh he just is okay?Yes. What more explanation do you need other than he is undead devil worshipper who eats people?
>>720812408You could say the same for most long-running Western properties, though. It's a case by case basis. Plenty of Japanese IPs have serious commitments to continuity.
>>720811424I really liked how her magic requires fancy handsigns, it gave her a dynamic style that went beyond *casts fireball*
>>720812684>Plenty of Japanese IPs have serious commitments to continuity.For example?
>>720813116FF
Things I liked:— Dracula is actually portrayed as more wizard than vampire — That one wizard who mind controlled a Legion of bodiesThings I hated:— The Church is universally le bad, when it was the Big Good in the games — Death talking/written like an edgelord despite being an ancient being Things I really hated:— Isaac— Alucard’s rape
>R-RIGHT ANGLES?! NOOOO!!!!
>>720813567that was the stupidest fucking shit ever
Things I really REALLY hated:— Them feminist men-hating vampires
>>720813275You HAVE to be joking.
>>720813509>The Church is universally le bad, when it was the Big Good in the gamesCastlevania is an outlier when it comes to Japanese media in this regard, Netflix notwithstanding.
>>720813567I like that one sci-fi novel that explains vampires as some sort of autistic strain of human that went extinct because it kept suffering aneurysms when observing right angles, which don’t frequently appear in nature. Scientists brought them back from the dead and now everyone is fucked because they’re literal psychopaths (humans who evolved to hunt other humans) without a conscience/consciousness.
>>720811119Godbrand died too soon
>>720813642I bet he's not and you can take FF7 as cumpilation as an example, even the Remake trilogy which is a shitfest of plotholes, fillers, retcons and revisions and multiverseslop
>>720813697The Church was legitimately a force of good in Europe, and at other times it was legitimately a force of evil. It’s disingenuous to say the Church wasn’t a bastion for the learned, since it fostered learning as a love of God. It was not some ignorant institution, and many of the world’s greatest universities like Oxford were originally places of learning built and funded by the Catholic Church.But yes there were indeed moments of absolute ignorance like the inquisitions, or just the whole heliocentric debate (it’s important to note that Galileo actually had patrons in the Church).
>>720813697not just an outlier I believe it is the ONLY example of Christianity being portrayed as both true and good in any Japanese work, with 64 of all games actually using specific Christian values to depict this.
>>720813936This is the exact reason I really love the defense Castlevania 64, Reinhardt stopping someone from committing suicide because it's a sin and already can sense that they can be redeemed, despite being a vampire, is a more character-defining moment than literally anything in this waste of a fucking show. Reinhardt is fucking kino and a Belmont in everything but name.
>>720813936Japan loves a superficially beautiful and nice organization being in-reality run by literal supervillains. The irony is popular over there. Not sure why. It’s why you have so many anime villains that are nice on the surface (*cough* those long haired smiling guys who never open their eyes *cough*) but are sinister below it.
>>720814296Isn’t the whole ‘Suicide is a sin’ thing a cultural failsafe to keep loved one from committing suicide? It’s like telling a kid they will be eaten by the Boogeyman if they don’t brush their teeth before bed.It’s silly but you can see WHY it’s a thing. It just sucks when people are so warped they now think their suicidal relatives are suffering in hellfire for all eternity.
>>720814296if it weren't for the sometimes crippling jank when platforming it would be one of the top Castlevanias, an actual cinematic and atmospheric game that brought all of the series horror themes to the forefront and honored all the classic cliches like the vampire having no reflection or the quintessential vampire hunter in Charlie Vincent. Oner day it will get the reevaluation it rightfully deserves.
>>720813936>God forbids suicide What if it’s an act to save another? Or many? Or to avoid a fate worse than death? I don’t think God’s an idiot.
>>720813907>like the inquisitionsIf you post this with a straight face it means you know nothing about the actual Inquisition. The vast majority of witch hunts took part in Protestant countries.
>>720814574God knows all the circumstance of one's own heart and intention, self-sacrifice is obviously a high virtue
>>720814574>What if it’s an act to save another? Or many?Anon, the Bible outright tells that sacrificing oneself for others is the highest act of love.
Based gigachad Trevor.
>>720814574>What if it’s an act to save another? Or many?That's called sacrifice. And actively seeking to do that can be foolishness in its own right
>we want to save money>i know, let's only draw half the frames in the battles.Sometimes it's incredible what they'll do to avoid spending money.
>>720814583Protestants didn’t start the Spanish Inquisition. Protestants weren’t really as paranoid of witchcraft as Catholics either (and some Catholics even practiced their own white witchcrafts / “hallowed magics” like summoning angels).
>>720814689It also said a father nearly sacrificed his own son to make his God happy.
>>720814797>Spanish Inquisition>According to some modern estimates, around150,000 people were prosecuted for various offences during the three-century duration of the Spanish Inquisition, of whom between 3,000 and 5,000 were executedRemember that most of those (((offences))) was being Jewish, and they were exiled.
>>720814535>Game has vampires that can bite you on the neck and turn you if you don't cure yourself>Dracula is depicted as a manipulator rather than just a dark lord, and will take Carrie as his wife in her bad ending>Actually has a playable Werewolf character in Legacy of DarknessKino...
>>720814857>Doesn't understand the parallel between Abraham not being forced to sacrifice his son and God's own son willingly sacrificing himself.
>>720789970I mean, realistically Sypha shitting all over CV3 is exactly how the actual gameplay goes, so...
>>720814872>convert or DIE
>>720814925I understand if as some schizophrenic father in antiquity who managed to muster enough willpower to not kill his son, interpreted through a holy book, over thousands of years.
>>720814948>3,000 to 5,000 executed in total>over the course of 300 yearsAnon, you have to be a cretin to believe this was the case. Plus remember that the Spanish Inquisition would also execute people for regular crimes, including baselessely accusing other people of witchcraft.
>>720815026No, dear retard, it was just an early lesson for a desert tribe, surrounded on all sides by cultures performing human sacrifices, not to do the same thing.
>>720813936I wish there were more things that would take Christianity and just have fun with it, the only things I can think off the top of my head are Supernatural, Darksiders, and Infernax.
>>720815040>including baselessely accusing other people of witchcraft.Yes. Because the biggest witches were the inquisitors you silly Willy.
>>720808227The Lenore x Hector sex scene is one of the most actually erotic / sensual / arousing in modern media. Someone on the project actually cared (for 2 minutes, anyway).
>>720815103Faith: The Unholy Trinity is a nice media of gaming. It also has a great depiction of Lucifer.
>>720815102Yes. Exactly. It was a schizophrenic wiser than most.
>>720815040Even a single case of “convert or DIE” is quite pathetic, honestly. They executed a man for believing that the Earth revolves around the Sun, too. Whether you lived depended on your Church sponsor.
>>720814583Inquisitions as a whole predate the Spanish one.
>>720794716Season 1 was greatSeason 2 was okayEverything afterwards is garbage. There were already warning signs in Seasons 1-2, but it was basically carried hard by the animation team who actually cared for Castlevania and hid references to the games inside every frame (I remember when Season 1 came out, I read the blog of one of the animators who excitedly talked about the process of animation and how they were fans of the games and the little references they hid in too)The moment they started treating the animators like a sweatshop and the moment Warren Ellis and Adi Shankar start to jerk their dogshit writing and ideas off is the moment the show goes downhill. You can even see early concept art for some characters (Especially the Curse of Darkness characters) looks more 1:1 with the games, but Ellis and Shankar both rejected those concepts. You can really see it from parts in Season 2 and especially Season 3 and onwards. Even once they fire Ellis, it just ends up being writers who still don't care about Castlevania so Nocturne ends up being irrelevant dogshit>>720808259The stuff about Islam is ridiculous because it's very clear Ellis did zero research. Isaac is stated to be a sufist, but almost all the "magic" he performs is in direct contradiction of a lot of Sufist sects and would be seen as blasphemous. It's just retarded western orientalism done by leftists who have never done any proper research into the topic. Hell, even the concept of an Islamic Vampire is technically haram unless you do some serious fucking worldbuildingOn one hand, Ellis rejects Grant Danasty because "it's historically inaccurate". On the other hand, he has no problem making Orthodox Romania into a Catholic kingdom>>720809019The designs are good because the artists/animators are actually fans of the fucking games. You can even see this in rejected concept designs for Isaac. It's only the writers and producers that are fucking retards. I am not 100% sure about Nocturne though
>>720815040>including baselessely accusing other people of witchcraftIt was a life/career ending accusation. Like accusing a man of raping a woman now.
>>720815724Abrahamic mystics will always pretend their shit “isn’t magic” or “it’s better” and this will always make me laugh. Magicians are always pretentious with their word play. “No it’s not magic it’s a miracle!”. Only the Jews don’t pretend. They know the Kabbalah is a cornerstone of western esotericism.
>>720813116Most ongoing series? I don't know how to answer that question. Legend of the Galactic Heroes isn't any different than most Western novel series. Gundam and Macross have primary timelines along with several alternate ones, but it's all pretty straightforward.Most of the difference is just a byproduct of how Western cape comics organized themselves. Japanese pop culture (for the most part) doesn't have properties organized that way, but that doesn't mean they don't notice continuity.
>>720815724>On one hand, Ellis rejects Grant Danasty because "it's historically inaccurate".Did no one tell him that "Danasty" is a reference to the House of Dănești and that there's nothing in the actual lore saying he's a pirate, and that's just localizer fanfiction? He's supposed to be based on Balkan Bandits/Thieves.If anything, he's the MOST historically conscious Castlevania character and makes the most sense to be included.
>>720813936Based Chadhart
>>720816172>Magicians are always pretentious with their word play. “No it’s not magic it’s a miracle!”“No it’s not magic it’s Magick! With a K at the end!”
>>720816294The entire production was a shitshow
>>720815393>They executed a man for believing that the Earth revolves around the Sun, too.Wrong. Galileo was not executed, he was placed under house arrest.Also the affair wasn't regarding that, it was because Galileo's ideas went against the current science at the time which also had it's base on Aristotle. There were some within the church (mainly the Jesuits) that supported him, but this angered others within the church. It was less a religious dispute and more of a fractional political dispute that used religion as a moral shield to justify their own petty internal conflicts. Reading actual Medieval history regarding the Church and religious conflicts in general makes you realize 90% of the conflicts are just political shitflinging due to petty grievances. Rarely did actual church prosecutions not have a secretive secular motive behind it. >Whether you lived depended on your Church sponsor.Galileo's sponsor was the Pope, but it was the fact that his ideas were supported by some in the Church that the Pope had problems with that led to the entire shitflinging. It didn't help you also had some members of the secular authorities go against Galileo because his ideas "violated the natural sciences" as predetermined by ancient Greco-Roman philosophers. >Even a single case of “convert or DIE” is quite patheticThis is true, but also because in 90% of the cases, the true goal wasn't conversion. It was something else entirely, usually secular. In the case of Witch Trials, most cases happened due to the desire to confiscate and gain property, unrelated to religion. Communist and Fascists dictatorships did the same thing but used ideology as a moral shield instead of religion.
>>720816196>Gundam and Macross have primary timelines along with several alternate ones, but it's all pretty straightforward.You literally proved my point here.
>>720816479>Wrong. Galileo was not executed, he was placed under house arrest.Wrong guy, friend. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giordano_BrunoGalileo had friends in the Church. He was sponsored.
>>720816172I am not talking about that you blithering idiot. It's like arguing that a Greco-Roman Pagan would burn someone with a fucking Wicker Man. It's a completely different set of rituals by a completely different fucking sect. I put """magic""" in quotation marks because Netflix Castlevania Magic hardly resembles the actual traditional magic used in both Paganism and Abrahamic Religions you absolute fucking dolt. Read an actual fucking book about esotericism before you start talking like a smug redditor.>>720816294Correct. The idea he was a pirate was just a localizer mistake. But Ellis doubled down on it and even put a retarded in-joke later in Season 3-4 about land pirates or whatever. But yeah, Grant Danasty was always meant to be a Balkan Bandit, and he would've been a perfect fucking fit. But Ellis is clearly very ignorant about the Balkans since he made Romania Orthodox.
>>720815724Based I felt the same about s1 and s2
>>720816646My bad, the original post was vague in reading. I'll read up on this case, but from my experience most of these cases tend to have a hidden secular motive behind it, I'll be surprised if this one doesn't. But still, thanks for the clarification.
>>720816479>Reading actual Medieval history regarding the Church and religious conflicts in general makes you realize 90% of the conflicts are just political shitflinging due to petty grievances.No one is disagreeing about that. The idea that the Church held back science is another highly erroneous claim.
>>720815153we were cheated of more
>>720816785He wasn’t executed simply for believing the Earth revolved around the Sun, there were other qualifiers for his “heresy”, like theological disputes. Still, he’s named as a martyr for scientists everywhere.
>>720816562Are you not aware of all the Western properties that do or have done the same thing?
>>720794716>whose plot like was literally "Dracula is bad because uuhhhh he just is okay?"Wow they couldn't even get that right.>>720799569This. I really fucking hate how magic is portrayed in the show.>>720806898>Show actually had interesting world and charactersIt really doesn't. It is lame and contradict itself all of the time.>>720807334This.
>>720815724Season 3 was pointless filler and season 4's climax with Death was stupid. Lenore was still cute however
>>720816657Why are you so angry? I’m just pointing out that Christian rites are indistinguishable from witchcraft. The Mass is a case of ceremonial magic.
>>720816657>and he would've been a perfect fucking fit. No kidding. He would have better served the role of comic relief than those forced attempts with Alucard and Trevor
>>720816964Absolutely, I can't argue that. >>720817046He would've been perfect not just as the fourth guy in the group, but also someone more morally dubious to actually add a certain "local" element to it as well. Unfortunately they did nothing with the concept. >>720817029Apologies, I mistook your post as a smug retort to my post disregarding my point.But otherwise, I do agree with you, I never really argued otherwise. Like I said, I only put magic in quotation marks because the adaptation hardly resembles anything close to that.
>>720816294He's the least essential character, especially within the context of a film's running time. They might as well have revised it to include him for 32 episodes of TV, though I don't think it's a big loss either way.
>>720816657>I put """magic""" in quotation marks because Netflix Castlevania Magic hardly resembles the actual traditional magic used in both Paganism and Abrahamic Religions you absolute fucking dolt.Whether magic is “magic” really depends on the point of view. Kind of like how the elves in Tolkien’s works don’t believe in (elven) magic, or don’t see themselves as magical beings. Gandalf isn’t a wizard back home in Valinor. The black machines of Mordor are “black magic”. God/Eru doesn’t see Himself the way we do, or it’s all just Music/Song. God’s miracles wouldn’t be miraculous to Himself, and Him considering Himself a god is no different from a human considering themselves a god to an ant. The devices built by the Greeks were seen as “the stuff of wizards” back in old antiquity. Magic is an air.
>>720817319So you’re saying magic IS “magic” ?
>>720816789Definitely, I thought the original post was about Galileo and I know there's a lot of myths about him. Same with Colombus. But I am glad to hear it was something else entirely that I wasn't too aware of. >>720816881I'll look into it regardless, it also wouldn't surprise me if the Church was scared shitless of having another Jan Hus rise up and gain power as well. Still, a very interesting case.
>>720815724>Season 1 was great>Season 2 was shit>The stuff about Islam is ridiculousI feel like they were trying to be respectful to it somehow despite basically saying that Muhammad condone summoning demons from literal Hell.
>>720817319I think that's moreso because the stuff I see in Castlevania Netflix is moreso similar to something like Harry Potter or Eastern Media with their Chi/Ki system, a lot of energy manipulation and shit, but not a lot of actual magic in the traditional ritualistic sense of it. Sure there are rituals that Isaac commits, but it feels very stereotypical and generic, there's no real actual folklorist references to any of it. Which given how Ellis rejected some aspects of Iga's vision as "historically inaccurate" really shows the hypocrisy. He could've gone full fantasy with zero fucks involve and I would complain far less. You're spot on about the rest of your post, but I'd argue that's also due to Tolkien in general being really clever with his worldbuilding and actually understanding the folklorist origin of magic as a whole. It's one of the good reasons to really appreciate Tolkien's writing and worldbuilding, he knew his research and understand how to implement it on an actual deep and interesting level.
>>720817410Yes. I guess. What is magic to one is not going to be magic to another, even if they are indistinguishable. Oftentimes the capital-w wizard won’t see themselves as such. Or rather, the pointy hat is placed on their head by others, not themselves. Characters like Gandalf are neat because they go out of their way to don the pointy hat. It’s the equivalent of an alien sage playing the part of a stage magician, or sufficient capability. He just doesn’t abuse it. He doesn’t weaponize ignorance or confusion or start cults like Sauron does. He definitely doesn’t teach magic to men, like Sauron does. No, his purpose, or mission, is to guide men to become more self sufficient. He can do things men cannot, and that’s all there is to it. people don’t start a religion over it.
Shankar, Ellis and that other faggot who wrote Nocturne need to be launched into the sun
>>720815724>it's very clear Ellis did zero researchEllis sniffs his own farts and says they don't stink.
>>720789970I mean, it is improving. DanDanDan is literally carried by its female cast, Okarun may be the MC in paper, but Momo is literally more impactful than him.Wait a second.. Momo is a sneak in MC huh
>>720817672>I'd argue that's also due to Tolkien in general being really clever with his worldbuilding and actually understanding the folklorist origin of magic as a whole. It's one of the good reasons to really appreciate Tolkien's writing and worldbuilding, he knew his research and understand how to implement it on an actual deep and interesting level.It’s 100% this. He knew magic is just the mind’s eye. Or a way of looking at a thing. He called it ‘enchantment’. It’s why he considered war so abhorrent. He truly thought the war industry (the “Machine” as he called it) was indistinguishable from hideous nature-destroying sorcery. He truly loved nature and thought we could be making a more beautiful world more in tune with nature, which is what the elves represent. But he also knew that mystery and wonder are big parts of it, and even the elves are mystified by the wizards, and don’t actually know their true origin. The bar for magic/mystery is simply a lot higher for the elves. “They look like old men—but clearly they’re more than that”. His time in the world war really shaped his take on fantasy and nature.
>>720818149>It’s why he considered war so abhorrent. He truly thought the war industry (the “Machine” as he called it) was indistinguishable from hideous nature-destroying sorceryThe dark side of enchantment is what we are living in right now sadly… everything is magic and yet nothing is…
>>720817563I respectfully disagree about Season 2, it was okay but much worse than Season 1. It already had signs of the worst to come. But in the end it wasn't as awful as what came next.>I feel like they were trying to be respectful to it somehow despite basically saying that Muhammad condone summoning demons from literal Hell.I think it's because a lot of these sorts of writers are too afraid to touch too much about Islam in fear of being controversial, but ultimately they end up accidentally being 10x more offensive because they refuse to do basic-ass research. Some of them outright spreading misinformation with "yeah so what if they do X? They are still human" which is an insane fucking take. It's a strange sort of Orientalism honestly. It's especially bad for Sufists in particular, who are already loathed by the vast majority of mainstream Islam for their more esoteric ideas and practices (just as much as Quranists are loathed for being the Islamic equivalents of Protestants). Calling them demon-worshippers just puts the icing on the cake there. There are definitely some insane Sufist sects that do some crazy and insane shit (like the ones in some villages who tear their own eyes off with knives), but there are others that are far more mystical and monk-like, but the nuances are barely talked about in Castlevania Netflix because it's clear Ellis will only briefly glance at a wikipedia article and then refuse to go into even a deep-dive to find out more information. >>720818027Worst part is, he's not as bad as other writers of the British Comic Writer Invasion (i.e. Garth Ennis), he 100% has written good things (he even wrote the first Dead Space). The problem is when he gets his head up his own ass and decides to do things his way regardless of if it's actually good and decides to make half his writing be a soap-box for his retarded opinions (never mind the fact he already has a blog for that).
>>720813697It just doesn't really matter to the games. It's veneer. It's set dressing. It's there because it's bundled with classic vampire tropes. This is the same series that involves Shinto priests folded a thousand times sealing Dracula's power with glorious Nipponese magic. It doesn't matter.
>>720818149The wizards are basically one step above the elves on the racial totem pole. Angels in disguise. Like Odin acting as an old hobo. They’re enigmas to them for good reason.
>>720818382False. From the very first game Dracula is portrayed as a demonic Anti-Christ who's power grows when the people turn from Jesus Christ, and he is resurrected on the eve of Easter Sunday
>>720813716>>720813601>>720813567It's pretty the writers ripped off Blindsight, but they were fucking idiots and didn't understand what the fuck Peter Watts was talking about.
>>720794716I hate it because they didn't use Rondo of Blood's OST
>>720819610You're right, anon. Akamatsu wasn't a guy that watched Indiana Jones and old horror movies but was a deeply religious Christian that wanted to spread the good news through Gill-Man ripoffs and bottomless pits.
>>720811242If you watched the slop that were seasons 3 and 4 then you're not above Nocturne by any means. Don't let other S3&4-gobblers tell you otherwise.
>>720812408lmfao you have never read a western capeshit comic in your life.
>>720821272It's the same fucking formula for every piece of shit slop show that gets bot/jeetspammed on this forsaken site.>omg fellow 4channers, "show" is soooo gooooooooood, only one spammer schizo keeps saying otherwise>omg fellow 4channers season 2 of "show" sucks but season 1 is soooo gooooooooood, only one spammer schizo keeps saying otherwise>omg fellow 4channers season 3 of "show" sucks but the first 2 seasons are soooo gooooooooood, only one spammer schizo keeps saying otherwise>omg fellow 4channers season 4 of "show" sucks but the first 3 seasons are soooo gooooooooood, only one spammer schizo keeps saying otherwiseRepeat ad infinitum.
>>720821746western slop writers love tying in alternate universes into main ones and coming up with retcons, trying to fold all that dogshit into canon as if anyone cares
>>720789691I don't know dick about Castlevania but after they killed Dracula in S1 the show became extremely boring for me.They made it clear that all the other vampires were B-tier jobbers, and we're supposed to give a fuck about their shenanigans once Big D basically suicides.
>>720789691Seeing her get better and better at using magic throughout all four seasons was kino as fuck.
>>720798851Alucard was emotionally manipulated and raped by people he thought were his friends.
>>720789691This show had some of the worst acting I've ever heard. It was like they got actors who had no experience in voice over work.
>>720821943I still laugh at what MAHBIL did to my boy Bobby Drake by having a psychic make him gay after decades of him slamming most of that universe's top shelf pussy left, right, and sideways.
>>720811119Carmilla fucks young boys.
>>720816958>This! So much this!!
>>720822480i wish we got to see something like that
>>720807987Alucard is Dracula's name spelled backwards. I don't know what Carmilla and Hector have to do with that logic.
>>720794716>retarded Reddit atheism in a setting in which holy water and holy artifacts routinely work against demons and vampires and Hell is confirmed to be 100% real... but only against the Catholic Church, Isaac is le enlightened goatfucking sandnigger>the only slavers in the middle of the Arabian Desert are WHITE MEN btw, trve Arab Muslims would NEVER practice slavery lmao>Isaac negrification>Alucard faggification>gratuitously wastes interesting characters like the Nordic vampire while keeping around the squabbling dykes>medieval Romania is full of blacks for some reasonIt's pozzed as fuck. Saint-Germain's adventure was cool though, felt like a WFRP campaign.
>I am going to fuck the living shit out of you cocksuckers, fuck your whore mothers.
>>720816479The funny thing about Galileo was that his science was terrible. The maths/science behind his proof was actually demonstrably wrong, he was correct purely by luck (took a while before scientists were able to discover the science that filled in the gaps and prove heliocentricity).
>>720822117I've settled on season 1 is okay, season 2 is barely watchable, the rest is unwatchable slop for the lobotomized.Seeing the original show fags complaining about Nocturne is like seeing Bethesdrones complain about Starfield when it came out. They may be right, but I can't take their opinion seriously regardless. So they thought all the earlier garbage was good, but THIS is where they draw the line???
>>720823525Meant for >>720821749
>>720823246BAD ASS
>>720823246>Death swearing is one of those things in life I didn't know I needed.
>ywn get raped by these two
>>720798813Too bad Hawkeye and Izumi are the only interesting ones
>>720823739I can't tell if these are male or female
>>720823739>An Asian dude>ToppingImmersion ruined
I had no hopes for it going in because I didn't really want a Castlevania cartoon, so I had no hopes to crush. I also didn't get up in arms about its effects on canon because it was its own thing.Alucard taking it in the ass was the funniest thing.Also everything about Castlevania TAS makes sense in light of Adi Shankar being a hack and a bootlicker. See his DMC adaptation and his recorded complaint about DMC5 "stealing his thunder" on "reviving DMC."
>>720798813>the best shonen
>>720789970when did Castlevania run in a shonen magazine?
>An Indian Vampire wouldn't know what a cross isI love when woke people reveal themselves to be ignorant retards.
>>720824348Indian as in from India. The math shit was stupid because they could just say a manifestation of faith assigned to the weapon was the cause of the power.
>>720824348Kek this, ironic as fuck. Picrel was founded in 52 AD by a fucking Apostle, I think ~15th century jeets would know what fucking Christianity is.
>>720824661>forgets picDerp>>720824545Or you could be ignorant of vampire/Christian lore and still be affected by it. Dumbshit writing by dumbshits.
>>720823867Both
STAY BE GITTIN HUMBLED WHITEBOI
>>720824661>>720824767You can say the same of feudal Japan yet I highly doubt some random peasant would know about Shogo Amakusa.
>>720794716They did a great job making it feel like Castlevania. Action, music and atmosphere was top notch. Too bad the writing was all over the place. I think it was season 2 that somehow managed to feel too slow and rushed at the same time. And season 3 and 4 just never really went anywhere and had disappointing conclusions. I'm still mad about Lenore.
>>720825393Needs a good dicking.
This dude and Isaac's entire arc was the highlight of the entire show and you can't convince me otherwise. That's how you do a good written black character.
>>720825506>They did a great job making it feel like Castlevania. Action, music and atmosphere was top notch.who pays you freaks to say this shit
>>720825506the only good thing about this show was her
>has the best arc and character development out of all the characters in your path>a black former slaveHow did they managed to do this?
>>720825506
>>720825506>They did a great job making it feel like Castlevania. Action, music and atmosphere was top notch.
>>720825716Who pays you to be a contrarian? Because as far as I know, that's the general consensus.
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>>720825440>You can say the same of feudal JapanThings went much worse in Japan than in India, Christians would be more common in India.
>>720825506>They did a great job making it feel like Castlevania.This is the same logic Bethesdrones used for Fallout 3 despite their image of Fallout came from FO3.>I think it was season 2 that somehow managed to feel too slow and rushed at the same time.It is because so much shit was wasted on the vampire GoT shit and it added nothing to the story.>>720825887It wasn't an arc; it was a fucking line.
>>720825627>That's how you do a good written black character.Then there is no such thing as a well (don't use good here you fucking retard) written Black character. I would rather say that then pretend that that nigger is in any way a well written character.
>>720826295Because there were christians in Japan then everyone would know what a christian is and what their simbols mean.
>>720826905This is better, saves time and no one has to seal with the mask.
>>720823739I more like their last state. On a spikes
>>720826956There wasn't a signifigant population of early Nestorian Christians in Japan the same way there were in India or China and by the time of the Mongol conquest of China and subsequent Invasion of Japan Eastern Forms of Christianity were seen as the belief of a hostile foreigner.
>>720825393Maybe people are right about people being sexist since they hate her but love Isaac.
>>720825716>>720826074Is that really such a controversial opinion? What was wrong with the music, action and atmosphere that made it not feel like Castlevania to you?
>>720827684So any indian in medievel period would know what a christian cross was?
>>720827768Not that anon but the way people talk and overemphasis of gore rather tasteful Gothic horror really doesn't mesh well with the series.
>>720816479The church being so corrupt, personal, non-faith motives or not, is still an egregious mark against it.
>>720827768Read the thread
>>72082571635 rupees is a lot, bloody bhenchod
>>720813567Imagine being such a devoutly militant atheist that you can't even write a fictional fantasy show about vampires without making the lore conform to your atheistic worldview.
>>720808259Not reading that.I bet her pussy is the juicy af, grippier than a glue trap and tastes like bubblegum.
This show was how I found out Dracula and Vlad the Impaler are the same fucking person
>>720813032you will really love naruto then. lamo
