this game doesn't deserve the hateit's alright, maybe a bit too easy
>>720790975Sure, given how weak the DS is, it's a good game.
Do people hate it now? I thought it was pretty good, its only crime is ushering in a billion other games
>>720790975No one hates the first one, just the soulless sequels
Who hates New Super Mario Bros.?People hate the 5 shitty identical sequels and the bad 3D Land games.
It’s an alright game though the mini-game gallery and Mario vs. Luigi mode were better than the main game.
>>720790975>doesn't deserve the hateHuh?I know people hate the sequels (and rightfully so) but what's there to hate about the first one?
>>720790975NSMB1 is actually genius.NSMB2 on the 3ds is where it went to garbage.
Hating the sequel is stupid. Wii at the very least, added so much. 4 person full multiplayer, yoshi, a console release, koopalings. Can we stop this meme already? There's nothing to hate about it. It's a straight upgrade and obsoletes DS. Well it would if it weren't for mini and blue shell but in all other ways it does
>>720791890Wii is honestly one of the best coop vidyas ever made, period.
>>720790975It was nice to have creative bosses instead of some lame koopaling battle every castle
Didn't someone remake the mario vs luigi mode?
>>720792438yeah and it's a lot of fun, there were some anons a while back hosting lobbies on the weekend
>>720791890Wii was boring as fuck solo though.In reality U is the best one.
>>720791137>>720791231>>720791473>>720791094I hate the first NSMB - it's every bit as soulless and mandate-focused as its sequels. I don't know where this meme came from where people pretend like NSMB is somehow different and "better" than its soulless sequels, but it's not. It's just as bad
>>720792704>it's every bit as soulless and mandate-focused as its sequels.lolwut
the first NSMB is easily the worst one. seeing anons defend it over the sequels in mind-boggling.
>>720790975I had a nice time with it like 16 years ago when it was my designated shitting game. It's all familiar stuff and not too difficult, which helps to relax the bowels while on the toilet.
>>720792949NSMB2 is garbage, part of the babygame 3ds era of Nintendo.
>>720790975I thoroughly enjoyed it right after the mario advance series. I liked it better than SMB3 but less than SMB2.
>>720793117going apeshit with the coin boxes is more fun than anything in 1
>>720792704>>720792949Their logic is that because it's first that means it's good. Or something like that I can only really guess. Also DS nostalgia I suppose? Again I don't really know what the logic is there.
>>720790975It and NSMBU are the best 2D Mario games. They've got great level design.
>>720792786NSMB bothered to make original enemies for single use gimmick levels, and a lot of enemies introduced in the game were actually new at the time before they got rehashed to death. The main problem DS had was with its obession with the Mini Mushroom for star coins. That was pretty shitty design.
>>720793429>The main problem DS had was with its obession with the Mini Mushroom for star coins. That was pretty shitty design.Yes, but it was iconic. Needing it to access the hidden worlds
NSMB is solid on its own and most people enjoyed it since it was the first 2D Mario game in a long time.NSMBWii was a fine sequel and improvement on it, but NSMB2 was pretty fucking pointless.
>>720792704lmao cope harder, the DS and Wii games are kino. People only cry over the Luigi U and 3ds games, and the 3ds one was actually really good. Honestly most of the hatred is fabricated JewTuber bullshit, except for the Wii U ones those I can concede... And even then they weren't bad just boring
>>720793607>People only cry over the Luigi UI've never seen people complain about NSLU, especially since you could buy the standalone disc for $20
>>720790975Wii and U were better overall games, but Wii was a departure from tradition with the way it balanced itself around multiplayer and fatigue had set in by U. Neither of them are quite as incredibly easy as the first game is though. 2 never happened, though.
>>720793195No, it's good because it's a perfectly well playing, original game.The later ones are bad because they are the same game rereleased half a dozen times with minor additions.Your argument is that a game is "soulless" because a bunch of shit came out afterwards that copied it.This is because you were -1 year old in 2006, and the first time you played NSMB was immediately before or after playing the later games that copied it.
>>720793960its soulless because its easy as fuck and unimaginative. easily has the worst powerups and level design compared to the sequels. the later ones iterated on it and improved literally every aspect
>>720790975second to last level is one of the hardest in gaming. green moving platform vertical autoscroller is EVIL
>>720794651as a kid world 8 was my dark souls
Consider
>>720794414>its easy as fuck All of them (except for Luigi U, which was purposefully designed to be more challenging) are piss easy.
>>720790975More time has passed from the release of this game to now than from the original US nes Mario brothers and new super mario
PAH PAH
>>720794945ok, and its still worse than all of them
mandatetrannies don't even like mario
>>720794945No Luigi U was easy too. Only hard levels were 2’s DLC stuff.
>>720795454>No Luigi U was easy too.Oh it's easy, it just isn't piss easy. :^)
>>720795529I mean you’ll still beat it with the lives in the double digits. I’d say Mario 3 is pretty easy because I beat it without a game over the first time I did it but I was cutting it close.!
>>720795728>I’d say Mario 3 is pretty easy because I beat it without a game over the first time I did it but I was cutting it close.!I wouldn't call it easy per se, I think it's a fairly challenging game. I know when I first played it as a kid I sucked ass at it but over the years I've gotten to where I can plow through the first 5 or so worlds without dying. Honestly I've played SMB3 so much in comparison to the other 2D Mario's that I'm better at that game than I am all the other ones.
>>720790975It has the bad rep of starting the trend of bland 2D mario reskins that lasted until a few years ago with Wonder, unless you also count that one as bland, too.On it's own, it's ok, I liked the mega mushroom, the music always makes me laugh and I like to see it incorporated into newer games
>>720792501DS > U > Wii > 2Wii is held back by the dev's inexperience with multiplayer at the time. The levels are too spacious and bland, and requires multiple people to actually be fun. 2 is a piece of shit and I do not understand the people who place it anywhere but the bottom. By far the most soulless of the bunch, exemplified by having next to no original music, just using Wii's OST with even more "bahs" jammed in. U was fun solo AND with friends, and managed some more unique setpieces and mechanics here and there. I remember being especially fond of the level with the giant mechanical Bowser arm. Nothing groundbreaking, just a solid time.